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Cloud9 sign Skadoodle, fREAKAZOiD
By: MIRAA
Time: 2015-04-29 11:12
Game: Counter-Strike: Global Offensive

Cloud9 have announced that they have completed the signings of Ryan "fREAKAZOiD" Abadir and Tyler "Skadoodle" Latham, with Braxton "swag" Pierce joining the staff as analyst.

The North American team had been left with a three-man roster after dispensing with the services of Kory "SEMPHIS" Friesen and Shahzeb "ShahZaM" Khan following a run of poor form in both online and offline tournaments.

The final straw came at the ESEA Finals, in Dallas, where the team finished 7th-8th following 0-2 defeats against mousesports and Nihilum Gaming.


Skadoodle signs for Cloud9 

Ryan "freakazoid" Abadir, a former member of Dynamic and Frost Gaming, had been widely expected to join Cloud9, and not even the leak of information regarding a deal with the North American giants prevented the move from coming to fruition.

He has now been given the chance to play for the team on a permanent basis after acting as a stand-in for the squad in March 2014, following the departure of Braxton "swag" Pierce to iBUYPOWER.

Rounding out the roster will be Tyler "Skadoodle" Latham, who had been without a team since the disbandment of his iBP team following a match-fixing scandal. Since then, he had played for Torqued at Clutch Con and for eLevate at CEVO Season 6 finals, both as a substitute.

"There are few words that can accurately express the amount of revitalization going on within the Cloud9 camp," Cloud9 manager Tres "stunna" Saranthus said in a statement.

"In fREAKAZOiD and Skadoodle, we have two players with the most obvious goal to win first and foremost. I look at the hunger to succeed as an extremely essential key to success going forward with any player.

"These players aren’t out for themselves, but for the common good of bringing titles back to NA."

The news brings to an end weeks of speculation about Skadoodle and Spencer "Hiko" Martin creating a new team from scratch, with the latter taking to Twitter last night to vent his frustration.

Meanwhile, Cloud9 have announced that swag, who is currently banned from Valve-sponsored events and from most tournaments following his involvement in iBP's match-fixing scandal, has been hired as as analyst "to help ensure the roster’s performance and success" in future competitions.

"In Pierce, I see one of the world’s best competitors and with him a vast knowledge of competitive experience," Saranthus said.

"I cannot think of a former professional player more capable of helping to guide this team to where it needs to be."

Cloud9 now have:

Jordan "n0thing" Gilbert
Mike "shroud" Grzesiek
Sean "[email protected]" Gares 
Tyler "Skadoodle" Latham
 Ryan "freakazoid" Abadir

 Braxton "swag" Pierce (analyst)

nice
2015-04-29 11:12:20
Nice? Hiko is so salty RN rofl - Skadoodle is a step up from shazzy though, that's nice fo' sure
2015-04-29 11:22:16
yep. and swag is there only to attempt softing valve's hearts and prove he learnt his lesson. hardly think he will be analysing shit and help sean with tactics and the what not.
2015-04-29 13:57:06
what heart
2015-04-29 16:15:30
it's a long shot but it may worth it, everyone loves cathartic shit
2015-04-29 18:00:59
Heartstone mby?
2015-04-29 19:41:09
Swag will be in the roster after his ban and freakazoid out
2015-04-29 16:52:04
I was thinking the same lol
2015-04-29 17:26:50
My points exactly :)
2015-04-29 17:59:28
after his ban? wtf u talking about????
2016-04-13 06:36:34
maybe they remember dhw 2013 vs VeryGames 14-15 when they took B and swag said if he should go back A and they totally faked them out, and they were like omg brax is genius we need it
2015-04-29 22:25:13
Skadoodle is a universe up from shahzam*
2015-04-29 15:43:05
Skill-wise, Ska is way better than Shahzam. With Semphis out, it's gonna be a nice change. With Semphis and Steel on the team, you;d notice Skadoodle barely communicating with the team at all. With Semphis and Steel out, I think Skadoodle will finally be able to live up to his potential, and not have the pressure of his teammates raging/screaming at him on TS.
2015-04-29 17:18:00
Not too sure about that - Dazed had been "complaining?" about Skadoodles lack of communication before IBP event took up Steel.
2015-04-29 17:48:38
Semphis hasnt been on a team with ska ever
2015-04-30 15:52:51
dont be fooled, swag is there to play on freak's account
2015-04-29 11:25:59
lmao ..
2015-04-29 11:27:17
haha +1
2015-04-29 11:29:06
i was thinking the same :D
2015-04-29 11:29:28
this++ and freakzoid will always be known as onliner who never performed in lan
2015-04-29 11:30:49
wtf? he destroys lan
2015-04-29 11:33:21
You clearly don't know what you are talking about. Freakazoid is known for being way better on lan than online. He's an offliner. The last esea lan he went to he had the best stats for the whole tournament that included many top eu teams.
2015-04-29 12:00:01
Dumb muricans, he meant that swag will play on freak's account therefore, he will be better than freak.
2015-04-29 12:22:00
+1, muricanz zmart
2015-04-29 12:48:00
stupid finnsih. this++ and freakzoid will always be known as onliner who never performed in lan.. l2read
2015-04-29 12:54:57
Learn to type, moron. That was the joke, swag plays on freak's account ONLINE then freak plays on lan, so obviously not on the same level since swag is better. How can you be so stupid?
2015-04-29 12:59:25
You're acting like a prick. Do you not know how to have a conversation without insulting the person every half a second? Are you that insecure?

#95 meant that as swag would be playing instead of fREAKAZOID, fREAK would always just be known as an onliner, presumably because he's misinformed about fREAK's past. That's the logical assumption, can't know for sure because he phrased it terribly.


2015-04-29 14:03:18
I'm acting like a prick because he is acting like a prick? lol
2015-04-29 14:05:06
Yes, and he acted like a prick because you were acting like a prick to #95.
2015-04-29 14:08:58
I wasn't acting like a prick to #95?
2015-04-29 14:26:28
147, sorry.
2015-04-29 14:27:43
No wonder Finland has one of the highest suicide rates in the world.

Couldn't imagine having to live in a society full of people like you.
2015-04-29 14:32:33
Wow, take a chill pill, this is HLTV, go cry somewhere else.
2015-04-29 14:33:09
Ironic since you are the one that came across Salty as fuck.

Nice work kid.
2015-04-29 14:36:55
Not really, but okay :D
2015-04-29 14:55:30
i loled
2015-04-29 16:04:06
just look at lurrpis
2015-04-29 18:27:31
If you think one guy on a FPS game forum represents the general human being in that country, by the very same logic your comment should make me think Australians are typically really dumb people. The irony..

By the way, the suicide rate has been decreasing greatly in Finland on the past ~7 years. Prolly gonna reach yours soon.
2015-04-29 18:49:32
Wow get mad over the internet much?
2015-04-30 01:16:50
Nope, just fixed your genuinely retarded logic and some facts :) have a good one
2015-04-30 01:23:33
My Retarded logic? As in the facts stated that Finland has a high suicide rate.

Wow get more upset kiddo.
2015-04-30 01:31:00
Logic which indicates how people behave in a country by their behaviour on the gaming forums, you stupid fuck. Can't you read your own previous comments?

Atm Finland isn't even at top-20 at suicide rates so that's not particularly high considering there are other European welfare states higher or about on the same numbers.
2015-04-30 01:42:25
Sounds like you're going to become one of those statistics at this rate. Stay hydrated captain tear generator.
2015-04-30 01:47:42
It's cute how desperately you are trying to sound funny and act like a tough guy:) Not my fault you haven't been taught logical thinking nor reading tho.

Time to leave the PC and hit the school someday, you may also find some equally stupid Aussies to discuss your childhood traumas with.

It's sad you are about to increase Australia's suicide rate in the future on a high chance.

Stay strong, you are definitely not alone with your problems in Australia.
2015-04-30 08:46:04
You literally just said what I said is retarded... then you said the exact same thing back to me.

Do you have the correct amount of chromosomes?
2015-04-30 08:49:22
I can sense your tears. Stay strong. Do not do anything impetuous.

If you feeling suicidal, call 1300 651 251.
2015-04-30 09:00:36
No tears here. I don't get upset and google information to retort people :(
2015-04-30 09:18:57
Accepting your condition is the first step to get help. #staystrong
2015-04-30 09:55:33
It hurts to see someone this salty over something said on the Internet.
2015-04-30 13:29:12
I hope it doesn't hurt so much you will do something radical
#staystrong
2015-05-01 03:46:18
Damn man, this whole suicide thing has rustled your jimmies hard. You just can't let it go.
2015-05-01 03:47:48
They were replying to #95
2015-04-29 12:56:57
No shit, and Jetec was replying to #68.
2015-04-29 12:58:37
so it is perfect, swag online, freak offline
2015-04-29 12:40:42
That stat doesn't mean nothing now, the skill gap is different at that time
2015-04-29 13:41:58
R E T A R D

S P O T T E D
2015-04-29 14:39:43
lol he is an insane entry fragger on lan
2015-04-29 14:16:41
lol fz is actually a lot better on lan than online, he's average online
2015-04-29 14:32:49
You clearly don't know shit.
2015-04-29 15:46:12
Pretty sure one of the top EU players said Freakazoid had the best aim he'd ever seen... AT LAN.
2015-04-29 17:19:07
516301 confirmed
2015-04-29 17:57:07
this.. +1
2015-04-29 12:38:35
no he isn't
2015-04-29 12:40:25
ROFL +1 hahahaha man I was just eating lunch when I read your post and I literally choked TSM-style (former TSM that is, past weekend they have proven to be true champions now).
2015-04-29 12:43:56
Hahaha, lovely digression
2015-04-29 12:48:46
Ayy LMAO
2015-04-29 13:00:30
+1
2015-04-29 15:44:01
haha^^
2015-04-29 16:35:08
NA SHUFFFFLLLEEE
2015-04-29 11:46:20
Rip skadoodle
2015-04-29 14:16:37
-n0thing + anger



Kappa
2015-04-29 14:18:19
-sgares if anything. Matter of fact -sgares +HIKO
2015-04-29 17:20:03
n1
2015-04-29 11:12:23
great
2015-04-29 11:12:26
so expected it scares me
2015-04-29 11:12:35
L:OL
2015-04-29 11:12:42
wut
2015-04-29 11:12:54
They also signed swag
2015-04-29 11:13:01
Swag signed them! B)
2015-04-29 11:59:04
He is still banned. From what I understand, he cannot have any association with teams that compete in Valve tournaments.

"All together, the information we have collected and received makes us uncomfortable continuing any involvement with these individuals. Therefore we will be directing our CS:GO event partners to not allow any of the following individuals’ participation in any capacity in Valve-sponsored events:

Braxton “swag” Pierce"


http://blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/2015/01/1..
2015-04-29 12:04:16
Good thing he isn't participating and he is just staff.
2015-04-29 13:13:41
Therefore we will be directing our CS:GO event partners to not allow any of the following individuals’ participation in any capacity in Valve-sponsored events.

----

Are you saying that whatever input swag gives will not be used in any way for majors?

If Valve really mean what they say then it should be that these banned players are not involved in your team else your team is not part of a major.
2015-04-29 13:20:50
And he can't coach ( as teamspec) in ESEA online matches because he (his client) is ESEA banned
2015-04-29 13:34:27
With an extremely broad statement like that, its gonna be up to the league hosting the Major and Valve on how they are gonna interpret it and whether or not they will allow it, we'll see i suppose.
2015-04-29 13:40:23
My guess is swag/C9 can do whatever they want when they're at home, he just can't be helping them in any way at a Valve tournament.


















2015-04-29 14:19:01
Kappa
2015-04-29 22:09:52
You also have to realize with ESL/ESEA collaboration, that wouldn't be sponsored by Valve. This can open the door for him to play again once the ESEA ban is finished. (as long as they don't extend it) More and more large tournaments are no longer sponsored by Valve.

I mean look at s1mple and Flipside; he's banned from ESL, but competes with them everywhere else.
2015-04-29 16:01:35
Doubt it. Pretty much the same situation as flipsid3 is in with s1mple. The team can still participate in events, just not with s1mple. So I guess he's not allowed to go to these events, or he may just not be allowed to play, and can still go as an analyst. Regardless, majority of his work will still take place outside these tournaments
2015-04-29 14:18:37
I hope I don't have to see swag's retarded face in any streams though
2015-04-29 12:11:01
Thats the way! with a good main awper
2015-04-29 11:13:02
noice
2015-04-29 11:13:35
good luck
2015-04-29 11:13:44
gg
2015-04-29 11:13:53
cloud9 definetely top10 NA now
2015-04-29 11:14:14
lmao
2015-04-29 11:32:38
Could be close though.
2015-04-29 12:07:10
Nice. gl
2015-04-29 11:14:16
nice
2015-04-29 11:14:16
AND SWAG

Swag will probably play fulltime for them from January I predict!
2015-04-29 11:14:28
Yes seems like they are stopping anyone else from trying to take.
2015-04-29 11:28:27
he's banned for a year? missed that
2015-04-29 12:39:29
thats why he said january..
2015-04-29 12:58:03
You missed the point, nowhere is it stated that swag is banned for 1 year.
2015-04-29 13:42:18
Yes esea cevo faceit and esl banned him for 1 year
2015-04-29 15:03:14
can you give me a source please?
2015-04-29 15:33:59
On their accounts on CEVO/ESEA/FACEIT
2015-04-29 15:44:57
ok. thanks.
2015-04-29 19:22:20
it says in ESEA so i guess that is in everything too
2015-04-29 16:29:42
Nope not valve
2015-04-29 17:36:51
The ban was indefinite as far as I remember, but I don't know if they changed it to a year.
2015-04-29 14:20:18
they reevaluate the bans after first year if i recall correctly
2015-04-29 14:55:18
Hope it pans out well!
2015-04-29 11:14:37
THE DREAM
2015-04-29 11:14:58
#22 THNX MOM for my life!
2015-04-29 11:15:09
Life failed again.. :'(
2015-04-29 11:15:57
Here, have one of these: [*]
2015-04-29 11:17:22
thnX :'(
2015-04-29 11:24:54
lol
2015-04-29 11:24:59
now C9 strong
2015-04-29 11:17:05
Ive watched Freakazoid's stream and he was so bad, like terrible. Is this another case of someone that use to be really good getting signed or was he just having and off day when i was watching him.
2015-04-29 11:17:07
from what I understand, his best asset is his AWP, which is why I'm confused since they've added ska alongside him.
2015-04-29 11:26:39
He never used to awp in his past, he was a rifler. Now hes brought in as a entry rifler.
2015-04-29 11:28:28
ok, thanks :)
2015-04-29 13:52:31
He's never been known for his awp lol
2015-04-29 11:29:03
where did I say he is known for his AWP?
2015-04-29 13:53:23
no... he was known for his sick aim with the rifle.
2015-04-29 11:37:21
He's pretty good. He just came back 2 weeks ago from being gone a year and playing on a shitty computer.
2015-04-29 11:26:58
he was gone 4 months and his pc gets over 150fps while streaming.
2015-04-29 20:03:22
The thing is you're comparing him to pug games on his stream where he fucks around to actual scrims/matches. Go look at his scrims on Esea, it's not like he's back to his old form but he literally hasn't touched the game in over a year and he's still keeping up in praccs easily.
2015-04-29 11:28:23
expected ("__")
2015-04-29 11:17:21
n1 freakasoid
2015-04-29 11:17:40
OMG, is this a real life, LMAOOO
2015-04-29 11:17:49
GL C9 M8's
2015-04-29 11:18:30
99999999999999999999 Times better than BOT ShahZaM
2015-04-29 11:19:06
Hope they fail... oh they already did adding 18 year old autist as an analyst rofl.
2015-04-29 11:19:53
sup hiko, u mad bro?
2015-04-29 11:19:56
rip hiko
2015-04-29 11:20:48
Expected
2015-04-29 11:21:11
still a joke team
throw9
clown9
2015-04-29 11:21:18
Still a joke team? What other NA team will beat them now? Sure, the very top Euros will for now, but hardly a joke team. Actually, seems it will be a pretty decent team. They scrimmed with that lineup last night against Luminosity and won 22-8. Not bad.
2015-04-29 11:25:18
the very top? mid tier teams will
2015-04-29 21:43:14
we will have to see about that one
2015-04-30 17:07:14
Skadoooodle!!!!! A step up from shazzy
2015-04-29 11:21:28
swag returning to pro scene? naice!
2015-04-29 11:21:58
he's still banned lol.
2015-04-29 11:23:01
IKR? but he returns in a squad as analyst which is good sign to return completely.
2015-04-29 11:25:06
There is no sign that his ban will be lifted
2015-04-29 13:30:41
they should accept the apology.
2015-05-01 09:46:40
Lol? Why? He committed a crime. Valve could have reported him to the police .. Remember: That matchfixing is basicly fraud
2015-05-01 14:37:23
2 guys who were banned by valve for cheating in game they apologized and Valve accepted it dunno the names but this happened. and yeah matchfixing is real crime but then mistakes happen. shit happens.
2015-05-02 08:51:11
RIP hiko
2015-04-29 11:22:16
that moment when their analyst is their best player
2015-04-29 11:23:51
X'D
2015-04-29 11:25:46
Skadoodle > swag
2015-04-29 12:20:52
with awp
2015-04-29 15:57:10
LoL
2015-04-29 13:03:52
good lineup
2015-04-29 11:23:52
#freeswag
2015-04-29 11:23:53
Braxton "swag" Pierce (analyst)


LOL 18yo analyst? Happy for him I hope they recruit him after the ban for sgares..
2015-04-29 11:24:27
I think that's the idea.
2015-04-29 11:26:07
Yeah he is very young, but maybe still top 3 NA brains in CS. A good lurker can't be good without understanding how the game works, and now as analyst he can learn a lot more and come back stronger than ever when the ban is over ^^ Happy for him as well!
2015-04-29 11:30:37
Its all a game. As soon as Swag is unbanned seangares is BB.

Swag knows all the things he needs to know and can actually kill people.
2015-04-29 11:31:53
Yea, because who needs an IGL.
2015-04-29 11:53:53
LOL, n0thing can call, he has tons of experience, just like -Fifflaren +allu/Maikelele & Xizt as NiP IGL :)
2015-04-29 12:58:22
Fifflaren was IGL of NiP for a month or two. They switched back to Xizt long time before fiffy left.
2015-04-29 13:06:35
xizt was the caller for the most time anyways
2015-04-29 13:15:16
LOL, yeah... obviously you know shit, Xizt has been the main caller
2015-04-29 14:25:40
It's not that hard to do it, just look at eLevate.Hiko..
2015-04-29 20:18:25
Cadian...
2015-04-29 12:07:29
n123
2015-04-29 11:24:33
Swag on twitter: ":( for now..." in reply to "analyst zzz". Meaning he is indeed intended to play for them once unbanned. Get them lawyer on the case C9 if you wanna win big!

Swag
Shroud
Skadoodle
n0thing
BOT Sgares

is top 8 actually.
2015-04-29 11:25:47
swag instead nothing d be much better
2015-04-29 11:27:47
what about

swag
shroud
skadoodle
n0thing
freakazoid (he's like rpk, needs training)

with sgares IGL like blade was for hellraisers.

that's top 5 material.
2015-04-29 11:30:46
n0thing is too toxic
2015-04-29 11:33:55
when has nothing been toxic? like you actually got me curious
2015-04-29 14:56:33
since csgo, he is negative and doesnt give a fuck about winning. just listen to their povs. he always asks for tactics and shit like he is never prepared.
2015-04-29 15:00:35
How is that toxic? And thing about winning is bunk. And negative? He usually sounds the most cheerful and upbeat in their povs. And the tactics thing, you can't point just him out. The whole team basically didn't know what they were going to do at the start of each round. The only ones who USUALLY didn't say anything, from my experience, were shroud and Shah when it came to tactics.
2015-04-29 15:07:01
other stop care when they see their teammates dont care
2015-04-29 17:03:58
n0thing seems like one of those guys who don't give a fuck when they don't themselves think they can win.
Back when C9/coL could actually compete with the best and had a chance to actually WIN, n0thing was doing quite good.
2015-04-29 15:49:44
That's actually a sick team. One of the best NA could have (if you replaced n0thing with Hiko perhaps). Those top 3 are probably top 3 in NA.
2015-04-29 13:17:26
Yes, get lawyers involved. But remember he scammed Skins worth 3000 $, which is a crime. Great idea to take it to court.
2015-04-29 13:42:13
C9 TOP1
2015-04-29 11:26:04
#freeswag
2015-04-29 11:26:18
u just cant see them winning anything
2015-04-29 11:27:07
actually I can see them winning anything, especially once swag is unbanned and can replace sgares
2015-04-29 11:29:52
yes but only if swag is playing
2015-04-29 11:30:36
nice
2015-04-29 11:27:12
wont be better at all. americans cant compete with top 10 in europe.
2015-04-29 11:27:59
Col/IBP... Brainless.
2015-04-29 11:32:03
IBP - ESEA 17 LAN Finals: IBP beat Titan 2-1
Dreamhack Winter 2014: Lost to Penta 16-13
ESWC 2014 - Beat 3DMax 16-11
FACEIT 2014 LAN Semifinals: Beat LDLC 2- 0
FACEIT 2014 LAN Finals: Lost to Fnatic in Final 3-1
CEVO Season 5 Finals: Won final against Cloud9: 4-1

Can't compete? Seems they could to me.
2015-04-29 11:46:29
Funny how you mentioned IBP loss vs Penta, this just proves they are not capable of competing and the 3DMAX thing is a joke, you could also said that C9 won vs Orbit, such an achievement, wow.
Also CEVO was NA only

Without swag, steel, azk and dazed NA is nowhere near being able to compete.
2015-04-29 12:28:29
It's funny cause fnatic and envy have lost to t2 teams also do you not understand that you can't win them all?
2015-04-29 12:52:21
Their loss with Penta was also a pug team consisting of swag, AZK, Skadoodle, nitr0, and desi... they had no IGL. So I mean.. what do you expect?
2015-04-29 13:03:53
Desi IGL? Looks like quite a decent lineup that, specially with swag and Ska.

But soth is pretty correct; those aren't fantastic achievements. The only worthy mention was LDLC. But I do think NA is bubbling with potential.
2015-04-29 13:22:03
Tier 2
2015-04-29 11:28:58
lol, top32 confirmed
2015-04-29 11:29:01
Lack of ambition for Skadoodle to join n0thing, sgares, and shroud compared to Hiko + others who want to win, compared to stream, and have no punishment for lack of results.

The entire squad should have been replaced, and the Shroud should be on a trial with the message "Be serious, or fuck off" prove yourself, instead of streaming. Make a choice, either you're 100% competitive or casual.

According to the interview in "Counter points" with Thorin, Semphis, and Hiko. C9 asked to higher their salary to make some of them stay, even though they didn't perform.

Typical NA, all about show, compared to results. It's not about winning, it is about being popular.

Skadoodle. Sad sellout.
2015-04-29 11:29:45
Lol I'm pretty sure they all want to win... You've been reading too much garbage.
2015-04-29 11:33:43
Who says shroud isnt the most dedicated player of them all? Its very possible that he attends all praccs and plays constantly besides that, while streaming.
2015-04-29 11:43:58
I believe it was Hiko who said Shroud could've focused more on practice than his streaming.

Personally, I don't think that the problem is in shroud. If anything, that guy is the only one who was performing for c9 in 2015.

If Hiko was smart enough, he could just get over the fact that he and c9 had/have different opinions about how the team should work. He needed to see there is no way for him to find any team that could compete with EU teams besides c9 (we know what happened to ibp). He probably didn't want to become some kind of hypocrite so that's why he still didn't want to play with c9, but I am pretty sure he wished he was with ska in c9 right now.
2015-04-29 12:03:00
In Counter Points, Hiko and Semphis said that Shroud were streaming all night, and never slept, and then showed up to practice sleep derived, and not in his most energetic and enthusiastic state.

So D1verse, it comes from his own team mates.

It is not about attending everything. You can also be a professional footballer, and attend training every day, but if you have been up all night, drunk, and show up wasted the next morning. Then how much worth is your training/effort really going to be the next day. You are not only showing up as a poor version of yourself, you are also letting the team down, and wasting everyones time.

How can we see that? Look at cloud9's results. I doubt they are living up to their fat paycheck. Fat, satisfied, and done. That's why Hiko left.
2015-04-29 12:05:37
hiko left because he asked c9 to kick n0thing but after they said that n0thing is more valuable to the team than hiko in terms of promotion then hiko just went full BOOOHOOO and quit the team.

lets not forget why swag left col in first place - hiko bullying/trolling swag all the time

so why would they prefer someone like hiko over n0thing whos better at his peak
2015-04-29 12:43:04
What is your source, when it comes to Hiko bullying Swag out of col. Pretty interesting, that Hiko consider Swag his best team mate ever, and then he wants to bully him out of team. Doesn't really add up. But again I might be wrong, looking forward to your source.
2015-04-29 14:36:59
Another thing

Why the fuck should people choose anyone based on their past peak performance, when they can't perform anymore.

So because n0thing had the greatest and hardest cock back in the day, I should pick him still today, even though he can't even get a boner anymore? That's a weird logic mate.

If you want to win it is all about having a consistent good/great performance. Hiko has that, and n0thing doesn't
2015-04-29 14:51:30
You do realise shroud stream is always after their pracc then he go too sleep and wake up before pracc
2015-04-29 12:46:49
What a fucking life. lol
2015-04-29 13:13:43
What? If he is happy playing games and getting quite a lot of money for it, then who are you to comment such things?
2015-04-29 15:45:52
That was just what I said, and according to his own team mates, he was not ready when he woke up, but totally smashed.
2015-04-29 14:37:40
And you don't bother thinking about the other side because Hiko has no motivation to lie and manipulate and make himself the good guy.

Look in the dictionary under "gullible", there's a picture of you. Until we hear shroud's side, you're a nobody that knows nothing presuming you're an expert.
2015-04-29 14:08:19
+1 I love it how people hear one thing and just keep repeating it over and over again, claiming it is the real and only truth without having heard all sides of the story.
2015-04-29 14:20:17
Thinking about the other side? What exactly is your source for Hiko manipulating/lying. Why the fuck should Hiko lie about Shroud not being 100% ready for pracc, and C9 wanting to raise their salary, even though they didn't perform? From what I've heard Hiko never said anything personally rude against any of the players, but he just told he disagreed with the mentality of certain players/staff in C9, and in order to stay he suggested some changes, which the other part didn't agree on, and they decided it was better to part ways. That seem pretty professional, and mature.

Well, "presuming" I am an expert. I find it pretty interesting that both Hiko + Thorin agree on n0thing has not performed or being dedicated for a long time, especially again looking at his performance and c9 results. If Hiko and Thorin aren't experts in what is going on in counter strike and C9, I don't know who is.

You want to hear it from Shrouds side? What the fuck do you expect to hear? No, I do not stream all day, and wake up wasted, but totally refreshed, and we get the maximal out of our practice, and we have results to back it up? But Hiko just lie to make himself seem like the good guy. Dream on.

2015-04-29 14:45:00
You have to understand that Hiko's squad wasn't for sure and no contracts were signed. You can say sad sellout but when you lose your team who decided to throw and you're in need of money, why not join an org with money to back your career?
2015-04-29 13:05:28
You're in need of money and pick C9. That is exactly what a sellout mean. A guy who sell his ambitions for money.

It is also fair enough, if that makes skadoodle happy. From a competitive point of view, skadoodle, could just have been a part of something greater with his talent.
2015-04-29 14:47:07
You're gonna call the only member of byeBP with the integrity not to accept any skins a sellout?
2015-04-29 14:39:02
What the fuck has that to do with the context of my message and point?

Sellout has nothing to do with matchfixing. Sellout is a term used for people who stop wanting to be the best, and choose the easy route and earn well.

Like Actors doing commercials.
2015-04-29 14:49:06
Kappa
2015-04-30 11:15:14
Good for them, this is capitalist America where we can ask for raises and bonus because money talks.
2015-04-29 17:31:14
ska x)
2015-04-29 11:30:47
c9 now top 20 world! gratz
2015-04-29 11:31:10
Great news tbh, let's hope they communicate more and actually win some games.
2015-04-29 11:31:27
omg i'm dying "he threw" HAHAHA
2015-04-29 12:06:23
Hiko, listen the fck up. Now that Skadoodle joined Scrub9 there is no good players left in NA. To defeat the non-surrendering frenchmen, the superior swedes, for helvede danes and the stronk kurwas from polakia you have to think outside of the box. If you cant beat them, form a fkin team with them.

Hiko
Scream
Rain
Maikelele
twist

SK Gaming ofc (BY FAR)

loominati confirmed gg best team ever ezy skins 240 value all in
2015-04-29 11:37:34
stronk kurwas from polakia LOL
2015-04-29 11:51:45
+1000
2015-04-29 12:05:09
+1
2015-04-29 12:17:09
PS I don't take credit for this brilliant piece of text.
2015-04-29 12:25:33
if not you then who? Can i take credit for it?
2015-04-29 12:46:49
A nice Swede somewhere else on the forum, told him I would copy pasta it because it deserved recognition
2015-04-29 13:08:48
+420696661337
2015-04-29 13:52:36
+123456789
2015-04-29 14:21:12
-nothing
+swag
And we have a very solid lineup
2015-04-29 11:37:54
except we cant have it cause you know why
2015-04-29 11:41:02
Well someday in the future i see no reason why it shouldn't happen once his ban expires.. He's still young and he can learn a lot now being in this position and come back even stronger
2015-04-29 11:55:03
true, ive always enjoyed watching swag play but i just lost all respect for him and his teammates after the incident..maybe the ban knocked some sense into him
2015-04-29 11:57:48
-seangares + hiko
2015-04-29 11:57:08
Yeah let's take out their igl for a rifler why not.. We can have another hellraisers team with no proper igl i'm sure everybody would like that
2015-04-29 12:02:57
Hiko is also a strat caller.
2015-04-29 18:42:45
I'd much rather had seangares in my team as igl than hiko
2015-04-29 19:28:42
Hiko rekt
2015-04-29 11:39:09
-seangares
+swag
2015-04-29 11:40:45
#FreeSwag
2015-04-29 11:48:53
don't know anything about freakazoid???
2015-04-29 11:41:35
GL !!
2015-04-29 11:42:24
-n0thing
+Hiko

Not as good as Hiko's DreamTeam, but pretty close.
2015-04-29 11:44:08
Top1 NA ez, grat boyzzz
2015-04-29 11:48:07
swag is there because cloud9 want to make sure no one takes him when he gets banned, then he will replace n0thing after n0thing will have poor performances and then coincidentally swag will be unbanned and swag will replace him, illuminati confirmed
2015-04-29 11:49:05
ya, the most popular player in NA and the guy with the highest average rating on the team and 3rd highest from NA is definitely on the chopping block.
2015-04-29 11:55:23
n0thing is inconsistent as fuck tho.
2015-04-29 12:10:45
Same as pasha. So should VP replace almost most popular (after NEO) player in Poland ? Think about it . Pasha is player who can be 32/11 in one match and on second map he is like 8/22.
2015-04-29 12:35:26
That whole team is inconsistent.
2015-04-29 13:06:51

Snax is good, the big ninja. :D
2015-04-29 16:18:02
Depends on how often he goes 8/22. With nothing it's like one out of 5 games is amazing, three are kinda meh and in one he's a bot.

Pasha is more consistent than that.
2015-04-29 16:42:38
oh god, RIP Hiko xD
2015-04-29 11:53:08
[*]
2015-04-29 11:53:26
no hiko ?
2015-04-29 11:53:59
lol its just taunting everyone that swag is on c9 and can't play
2015-04-29 11:54:18
Lost my respect for ska now, will not support this worthless C9 lineup ever.
2015-04-29 11:55:29
Bra England
2015-04-29 12:49:32
HAHAHA HIKO FU
2015-04-29 11:56:10
If unbanned, would love to see n0thing and sgares replaced by swag and steal. That lineup could take on the best in Europe!
2015-04-29 11:56:17
lol, not even close.
2015-04-29 12:04:53
Those are 5 great players, no need to underestimate them :)
2015-04-29 14:12:32
Nothing good can come from steal, so toxic that the other players will play worse + he often rage to much and isnt that good of a IGL overall.

Hiko
Ska
desi
adren
pyth

^make this happen and you have a cchance again.
2015-04-29 16:43:05
+1 such a nice team tbh.

If not, +nitr0 somewhere
2015-04-29 17:06:37
What really, truly pisses me off? The scandal that resulted in the ban of the four iBuyPower players! We had a real team then that competed with the best in the world. Sometimes we won, sometimes lost, but we competed. Now that team is gone and the NA scene is still recovering.
2015-04-29 11:57:50
Feels more dead than recovering tho..

The best thing for C9 is to drop that worthless team and build a team around hiko.
2015-04-29 12:04:22
Their new team is shaping up pretty well. The only one of them I'd consider replacing is [email protected] If Hiko could bury the hatchet with N0thing and go in to replace [email protected], Cloud 9 would compete well against anybody.
2015-04-29 12:22:51
I do not really agree, Cloud9 feels like they are not even trying anymore.

Like they do not care if they win/lose agianst EU teams, I use to love seeing them doing the most crazy stuff on lan but that feels kinda long gone.
2015-04-29 12:25:44
Hiko rekt
2015-04-29 11:58:16
Skadoodle dogging out the boys ;(
rip lord hiko
2015-04-29 11:59:48
Wtf is swag even allowed to be on a team's payroll ?
2015-04-29 12:00:01
I don't think so.
2015-04-29 12:09:35
He is only not aloowed to play.
2015-04-29 12:54:07
when ban expires -freakazoid +swag
2015-04-29 12:01:49
yeah baby, c9 back to fav team in my books
2015-04-29 12:11:19
cant edit for some reasoon > glad that nobody wants to join that shady double faced hiko character
2015-04-29 12:16:22
hiko was trying so hard to cling onto skadoodle and make them a package deal but ska was smart enough to go off on his own and take the paycheck. Maybe hiko will learn not to burn bridges.
2015-04-29 12:13:31
Only bridge he burned was at C9 and that out of principle.
2015-04-29 12:18:17
swag is going to replace whoever is underperforming, when his ban is lifted
2015-04-29 12:14:55
Hired swag as 'analyst' aka reserving him to kick n0thing after his ban is up
2015-04-29 12:18:12
N0thing won't get kicked. He's their top fragger. The one that should be looking over his shoulder is [email protected]
2015-04-29 12:19:49
He is NOT their top fragger, most inconsistent player ever, and sgares is IGL
2015-04-29 12:34:17
He was their top fragger in 2014....
2015-04-29 13:21:25
NA CS confuses me. Hiko is twice the player that seangares is, and better than freakazoid by some distance.
2015-04-29 12:19:01
C9 would hire Hiko but Hiko has a monster grudge against N0thing. He refuses to go there.
2015-04-29 12:20:42
His grudge is against the organization who offers the players money to stay with the team even when losing. He didn't like the thought of making money to lose.
2015-04-29 13:08:11
-n0thing +Hiko
please
2015-04-29 12:22:29
or -sean
2015-04-29 12:29:34
The only analysing swag is going to be doing is whom he can replace in 7 months time haha.
2015-04-29 12:23:54
inb4 steel will become CLG's analyst.
2015-04-29 12:24:49
bad move ShahZaM is better than skadoodle and Relyks>>>Freakwho
2015-04-29 12:27:12
Woah! Really? I doubt even Shahzam would agree with this, but he'd thank you for the sentiment nonetheless. And you obviously don't remember Freakazoid. When he gets back on track, he'll be a strong contributor to the team. Even in last nights scrim against Luminosity he was not bottom fragger and that was his first match with the team.
2015-04-29 12:32:31
More time for hiko to make hltv threads about himself so people dont forget him hhahahaha
2015-04-29 12:27:24
they need an analyst to analyze the best way to prevent spectator suspect that they are throwing for skins.
2015-04-29 12:28:09
"In fREAKAZOiD and Skadoodle, we have two players with the most obvious goal to win first and foremost"

As much as I understand fREAKAZOID is a beast, I just don't get this statement. He's always been a player to jump in and out of Tier2 NA teams but I don't know if that's because CS is a hobby to him or he's always wanted to be in a top team.
I'm really interested to see how he goes and I wish him the best of luck
2015-04-29 12:32:54
Freakazoid is extremely competitive person, he's like the only pro that has real sports background and he wants to go big in whatever he does.
2015-04-29 12:40:51
What was the previous sport he competed in?
2015-04-29 12:49:27
Rugby if I remember correctly.
2015-04-29 12:55:49
Wow that's awesome, I'm from New Zealand and that's our national sport.
He's perfectly built for Rugby so that makes sense.
Thanks for the info!
2015-04-29 13:01:52
That's awesome, actually.

Lots of old CS stars from NA played sports competitively before devoting themselves to the mouse. I saw an old video with interviews of the classic coL line-up, and I think almost every member mentioned playing either baseball or hockey in high school, and how their play-to-win spirit started there.
2015-04-29 23:07:50
To all ppl telling that n0thing is inconsistent and should be kicked from C9:

Its same with pasha. So should VP replace almost most popular (after NEO) player in Poland ? Think about it . Pasha is player who can be 32/11 in one match and on second map he is like 8/22.

Btw :N0thing is really nice guy , he is spirit of this team. I spoke with him for some time on ESL Katowice 2k15 and he seemed really nice. He is intelligent and funny , but I know that doesnt meen that he is good. I just want to point out that he is likeable and i dont see him being kicked out from C9 , same as Sean, he is good in-game leader for their team.
About swag - he might be not experienced enough. But i guess they are going to change freakzoid to him at the beggening of upcoming year meanwhile giving him a chance to stay on a "flow" and practice more in CS:GO + learning their strats so he would know them when he is going to come back to scene . Ggwp hltv confirmed.
2015-04-29 12:38:08
dude, pasha is 3,5 x times m ore popular than neo now.
2015-04-29 12:49:15
Yeap, now. But at times when i was keen on CS 1.6 , NEO was ultra-popular and 20 times better that any other player in PL. TaZ was insane too ;)
2015-04-29 13:12:53
n0thing is a pugstar. he's online as fuck
2015-04-29 16:21:10
Mayby the will be able to reach tier 1 again. I hope so.
2015-04-29 12:38:35
really good move, cant wait to see them!
2015-04-29 12:41:44
I honesly doin't see them having any success with this lineup neither xD
2015-04-29 12:43:08
swagy <3
2015-04-29 12:50:25
Dazed would be the better analyst...
2015-04-29 12:52:48
Hiko the best US player
2015-04-29 12:54:20
What is swag going to analyse? Throw possibilities?
2015-04-29 12:57:19
LOL
2015-04-29 13:01:10
HAHA
2015-04-29 17:08:58
so can someone explain to me what is swag doing there when he himself left complexity because he thinks sean is not even good at this game and he dont want to play with him ... lol
2015-04-29 13:04:06
Money Money Money ........... Money
2015-04-29 13:11:57
freakazoid will be kicked when volvo unban swag, will be pretty cool lineup
2015-04-29 13:06:19
wich means ptr will join hiko's super team? :D
2015-04-29 13:09:09
Hiko was counting on Skadoodle being on his team. Without Ska, there's probably not going to be a Hiko team.
2015-04-29 13:17:11
ptr + "super team"?...Doesn't sound right.
2015-04-29 13:17:30
haha it was a big mistake to have recruited Shazham in the first place..
2015-04-29 13:13:41
they only recruited shazham, because at that time ex-iBP was not banned. They got banned a couple weeks later.

If iBP got banned befor hiko left c9, we probably would have seen c9.skadoodle, for a couple months now.
2015-04-29 22:42:33
I cannot think of a former professional player more capable of helping to guide this team to where it needs to be.

I guess it indicates, that swag won't get unbanned ever, otherwise why would you call him a former pro player?
2015-04-29 13:14:21
because he was a pro player before, and is not a pro player now, obviously
2015-04-29 13:22:16
nice
2015-04-29 13:14:48
Gl Skadoodle
2015-04-29 13:16:18
Hiko [*]
2015-04-29 13:16:26
[*]
2015-04-29 14:46:12
Swag as "analyst"... So he will help out with his 1/2 years of competive experience?
2015-04-29 13:20:38
dont forget school experience
2015-04-29 13:22:58
Swag is probably there so the organisation can tie him down.
Once his ban is lifted someone from C9 is going to be replaced by him.
2015-04-29 16:48:29
Swag joins C9 in January... Put this on lounge and I will go all in.
2015-04-29 13:21:44
Not hype
2015-04-29 13:23:38
Love this roster. Five of my favorite NA players. Hope they can prove you guys wrong.
2015-04-29 13:24:53
rolf
hellraiser v2
2015-04-29 13:25:43
Now kick n0thing please!
2015-04-29 13:26:22
expected
2015-04-29 13:27:17
look at swag, weaseling his way back in the scene, weasel.
2015-04-29 13:30:33
EXPECTED KAPPA SKADOODLE TO SAVE NA CS AND c9's CURSE
2015-04-29 13:31:20
kiho pissed
2015-04-29 13:35:39
skadoodle and shroud on the same team? :)
2015-04-29 13:46:21
This is awesome!
Plus, swag is back!
2015-04-29 13:47:15
imagine this team but -nothing + hiko
2015-04-29 13:50:03
AND -seangares +swag
2015-04-29 13:51:59
Indeed, swag and steal or Hiko instead of sgares and n0thing could work wonders!
2015-04-29 14:14:30
skadoodle obviously weighted his options and he chose c9 for the obvious reason money + constant international exposure with experienced teammates.

as for c9 roster, idk if it is better than the old compLexity one (hiko,swag,nothing,sgares,semphis) but it is a serious upgrade for the latest one as shroud and n0thing have improved greatly since then and sgares could serve as a secondary awper/autosniper and caller.
2015-04-29 13:58:07
nice team
2015-04-29 14:02:28
#freeswag
2015-04-29 14:03:18
best team ever love <3
2015-04-29 14:12:45
-freak +anyone
2015-04-29 14:15:38
Skadoodle GL!!!
2015-04-29 14:16:20
So 2nd team:
-Hiko
-nitr0
-ptr
-tarik
-someone (desi was playing pretty good lately, but dunno)

Probably won't happen anyway and they will make a shitty teams as always.
2015-04-29 14:17:38
If C9 wants a NA dreamteam, they need to get rid of Seangares and add Hiko as replacement.
2015-04-29 14:18:41
finally they've changed the roster
2015-04-29 14:21:13
So far from what ive read in the comments most of u guys are EU haters on NA well look here sonny dis be a video game competitive or not and when NA kicks ur @$$holes at the next major and win it then we'll see whos gonna be laughing hahahaha....ah who am i kidding good lineup tho 9/10
2015-04-29 14:25:30
+9999
2015-04-29 14:51:09
:D
2015-04-29 16:04:10
Ps stop joking
2015-04-29 16:16:05
This Lineup is okay, maybe -n0thing +Hiko (I know he won't play for C9 blah)
-fREAKAZOID +elige or sancz
2015-04-29 16:17:27
If they remove elige then there will be an imbalance if power and c9 wud win all the invite tournys in NA and as for the n0thing hiko argument #teamn0thing HUCK FIKO

Kappa
2015-04-29 18:14:15
n1 skaaaad000dlee
2015-04-29 14:31:38
good luck lol
2015-04-29 14:32:17
gg Hiko get rekt
2015-04-29 14:35:52
no level sorry ;D
2015-04-29 14:40:26
Can't really see the potential here this lineup isnt strong enough to beat current NA teams and with European teams stacking the NA local tournaments theres literally nothing C9 can win.
2015-04-29 14:44:00
It was just a scrim but this lineup played together for the first time last night and beat Luminosity 22-8.
2015-04-29 18:44:54
LG had a new lineup too and arya change is more recent than people remember.

Probably not an accurate statistic.

Plus, c9 havent established strats and freak is still warming up.
2015-04-30 15:59:24
gl,I guess...
2015-04-29 14:44:28
sad for Hiko, but i dont think there would have been a better possible roster. so i understand why Ska joined.
2015-04-29 14:45:13
Clown9 will still suck.
This time you will see -nOthing threads (Ultimatr cure for clown9)
You heard it here my bros.
2015-04-29 14:50:30
swag was also signed, which is a rather crucial distinction because it offers a glimpse into C9's motivations for picking him up--they are hedging an anticipated ban lift
2015-04-29 14:52:32
rip hiko :[
2015-04-29 14:53:22
rip hiko
2015-04-29 14:53:42
Finally! Dream come true ! Welcome Skadoodle!!!
2015-04-29 15:04:17
KING FREAKAZOID IS BACK, I AM SO HAPPY I COULD DIE
2015-04-29 15:10:02
My boy swag droppin rhymes and smokin dimes
2015-04-29 15:11:00
Would have liked to know hikos dreamteam. :<
2015-04-29 15:17:08
GG for C9 but rip Hiko [*]
2015-04-29 15:19:41
C9 is a sniking ship, this solves nothing, gg wp
2015-04-29 15:21:54
stunna, get rid of sgares and replace him with hiko and you got yourself a team.
2015-04-29 15:22:37
Freakazoid? A nobody but he lifts weights so c9 will get more hits. Freak is like a cal o player in the past
2015-04-29 15:23:41
fREAKAZOiD > Pasza
2015-04-29 15:25:26
Swag instead of steel or dazed?
2015-04-29 15:29:05
-n0thing +hiko pls :(
2015-04-29 15:31:11
WHAT IN THE FLYING FUCK! fREAKAZOID? WHEN THE FUCK DOES HE EVEN PLAY.


IVE BEEN AT THE GYM THE LAST 3 YEARS AND IT MAKES ME BETTER AT CS.

WHAT IN THE FUCK IN CLOUD9 THINKING
2015-04-29 15:36:43
freaks great at cs...
2015-04-29 15:38:47
Yeah, C9 picked him without any reason. You are right.


Retards like you amaze me.
2015-04-29 15:49:56
NA biceps
2015-04-29 16:12:32
If someone can link the topic that said SKA to c9 and hiko will stay teamless i would be thankful!

2015-04-29 15:50:25
freakazoid stronkkk
2015-04-29 15:50:43
still defend the output of the sean and the other input
2015-04-29 15:51:06
As some people already said, probably have swag replace sgares in time, but have him transition to a coaching role. Hiko salty as hell and should not have taken so long to pull a team together; people don't want to be free agents forever. Still feel kinda bad, but I'm sure he can land on another roster. Better to just compete on a lesser team for a while than not play competitively at all.
2015-04-29 15:59:16
Well besides that, he does have a pretty solid stream and a position at Twitch, he is solid in terms of having something going for you.
2015-04-29 16:30:07
I'd agree with that, but you'd have to think he is a competitive person and would want to get back into that atmosphere.
2015-04-29 18:05:38
I'll have to say that I'm pretty excited about this :D
2015-04-29 16:00:56
n0thing + Hiko
2015-04-29 16:01:57
In actual sports people who fix matches get a life time ban. Keep the rat away from cs.
2015-04-29 16:04:21
[*] RiP
2015-04-29 16:04:52
Nice, skeptical about freakazoid for the moment but skadoodle will DEFINITELY bring something great.
2015-04-29 16:21:29
awesome
2015-04-29 16:27:30
Wow, the best possible replacement for ShahZaM, but the worst possible replacement for Semphis. C9 is such a stupid organization.
2015-04-29 16:28:49
RIP Swag
2015-04-29 16:31:32
So if everything plans out Swag will join their roster after his ban expires ;p
2015-04-29 16:41:38
Exactly my thoughts. Rip fREAKAZOiD then
2015-04-29 17:01:03
His ban won't expire. Isn't it indefinitely?
2015-04-29 17:25:11
if ska does worse then shahzam im gonna cry
2015-04-29 16:51:38
Hiko [*] http://i.imgur.com/uZgiBUr.jpg
2015-04-29 17:08:14
Why Swag? He's such an odd choice for an Analyst, a better choice would have been Steel or DaZeD
2015-04-29 17:11:48
Dazed definitely. Steel kappa right?
2015-04-29 17:23:34
c9 still sucks. [email protected] is the problem. i bet he would still keep shazham if it wasn't because c9. has no ability about controlling team. otherwise shroud wouldn't stream 20 hours per day and we would hear more his talk in-game.
Because of shitty teammates,n0thing thinks he's best.
Anyway,DaZeD will continue his c9 videos while Hiko's enjoying about casting the match of shitty c9.
2015-04-29 17:13:03
sgares the problem? Maybe. I think their problem is that shroud can't perform offline and he's too cocky and self-absorbed to realize it.
2015-04-29 17:22:34
That's the moment that the leader should take control of his team. and [email protected], he's too coward to say anything. He was defending shahzam more than everything after his post-match interviews. lol
2015-04-29 17:36:11
Haha true that.
2015-04-29 17:40:41
amazing team
2015-04-29 17:18:02
Rip Hiko [*] :(
2015-04-29 17:24:09
Well, he chose to leave them, so...
2015-04-29 17:26:01
C9 just ruined Hiko's dreamteam by signing Skadoodle.
2015-04-29 17:27:28
That's a very biased and interesting way of looking at it but you might be right. Maybe they signed Skadoodle, the best awper in NA, just to fuck with Hiko. Maybe they did. Or maybe they needed an awper like Skadoodle on their team.
2015-04-29 17:39:58
I'm not saying that they did that to mess with Hiko. They just needed a great awper so why not sign the best one?
Still kinda sad for Hiko.
2015-04-29 17:49:24
True, but again he's the one who chose to leave c9.
2015-04-29 18:03:05
To be completely honest, I think it was a good choice to join ex-iBP. If they hadn't thrown that match way back Hiko would currently be sitting on the Number 1 team of North America.
2015-04-29 18:07:27
+1
2015-04-29 18:50:24
Exactly. You just proved my point. He-is-the-one-who-chose-to-leave-c9. I wasn't talking about circumstances or reasons as to why he chose to do it.
2015-04-29 19:38:43
Anyhow, always nice to have a conversation with an intelligent human being which is very rare these days on HLTV.
2015-04-29 19:51:53
lol, don't know if this is sarcasm but good talk mate:)
2015-04-29 21:22:29
good picks
GL
2015-04-29 17:26:18
"analyst" when valve unban him he will join the team as a player :)
2015-04-29 17:26:43
best team ever
2015-04-29 17:29:13
LOl that did not help C9 on bit. OMG next lan is going to be so sad unless this nobody Freakazoid does something. I'm Guessing he's going to be like 4-20 in their lan matches.
2015-04-29 17:30:52
yaya, he's even better on lan
2015-04-29 18:26:56
If you don't know who freakazoid is then you really dont know a thing
2015-04-29 18:29:49
ez odds for us
thx c9 fankids
2015-04-29 17:33:30
freakaBEAST >

love this guy, GL!
2015-04-29 17:54:07
The Hiko fuckover is real. The only explaination to this is that either some of these guys hate Hiko probably mby all of them. Or that Hiko has some serious problems in playing with teams. I know hiko hates the cloud9 org but I think even if you get payed that much as the c9 guys the should all leave and play with Hiko. The best player in NA is not on NA new super team. AND FREAKAZOID IS IN IT. FFS
2015-04-29 18:10:44
Hiko f***ed himself over m8.

It was childish and lacking of foresight for him to cut ties with C9 in the way that he did. No sympathy from me.
2015-04-29 18:25:46
With this lineup easy top3
2015-04-29 18:12:00
If they can all actually give a shit, they might actually do alright.
2015-04-29 18:29:48
I could see cloud9 working out a deal with Valve to return all the skins to get swag unbanned. If this happens hopefully they remove freakazoid. Far as hiko who cares about him... swag plays the exact same role and is far better.
2015-04-29 18:30:05
*to return all the skins by those affected via csgolounge
2015-04-29 18:31:03
I guess their goal is to be top1 NA, not top1 world.
2015-04-29 18:31:22
If they can some how get swag back in action the roster will be solidified.
2015-04-29 18:35:15
Brax is back!
2015-04-29 18:59:51
Looks like c9 want to star a pasha wannabe instead of an obese in order to attract the fanboys to go along with n0thing and sgares.
2015-04-29 19:03:11
"a pasha wannabe"

Thats like saying pasha is a Arnold Schwarzenegger wannebe.
2015-04-29 21:22:58
I mean freakazoid doesn't want to copy pasha, but c9 want someone who is like pasha. pasha clone would be better.
2015-04-30 07:50:27
clear as day freakazoid is cool with being a temp. swag will be back :) this team is gonna be nasty
2015-04-29 19:16:14
Seriously, n0thing has to go, his days are over.
2015-04-29 19:19:11
What do you base this on? How much NA cs are you watching if I may ask? No? Just shut the fuck up
2015-04-29 19:22:46
Wtf? He's inconsistent, but undoubtedly the most talented player on c9...
2015-04-29 19:39:40
gl skaadoodle!
2015-04-29 20:06:50
as soon as swag gets unbanned he will be in that team
2015-04-29 20:42:08
"I cannot think of a former professional player more capable of helping to guide this team to where it needs to be."

DaZeD would definitely be more capable. Still nice to hear swag is making a return to the scene. Hopefully he'll only be banned for a year.
2015-04-29 21:21:53
Agreed. Dazed probably has the most capacity out of all players in NA. Imagine Dazed taking over leadership in c9, it would be just what they need, someone to bring them all down to planet earth and teach them basics.
2015-04-29 21:57:01
Exactly.
2015-04-29 21:57:59
-fucking freaka and get +hikoooo PLEASSEEEE<3 could be top5
2015-04-29 21:23:06
+ after swag is unbanned -sgares



dont say shit "like noigl then gg" like hes a good one or smth lmfao hiko is even a better igl
2015-04-29 21:25:04
freakazoide lol
2015-04-29 21:29:46
C9 after 1 year

SeanG
Nothing
Shroud
Skadoodle
Swag

not bad imo, they are waiting for swag unban
2015-04-29 22:04:03
-nothing
+semphis

cuz all S names
2015-04-29 22:18:02
-semphis +shahzam
2015-05-01 14:38:51
YES SWAG YES

iBP is back!
2015-04-29 22:05:44
lol rip choke9
2015-04-29 22:06:58
Straight up against top EU teams I doubt it, but if they use every exploit in the game i.e. ska mag7/ team armor tec-9 force buys they have a solid chance of top 8.
2015-04-29 22:16:37
n1
2015-04-29 22:40:14
Hiko go Keyd Star...
2015-04-29 22:51:17
who's the main awper?
2015-04-29 22:57:30
ska ofc
2015-04-30 20:06:20
[*] Hiko and his dream team.

This line-up is improved, but its not NA's salvation. We don't know freakazoid's form after his long absence. We don't know whether sgares will be able to step up and be the right leader for this team. And above all, because the team wasn't formed with a definite composition in mind, we don't know how this chemistry will work. I hope it works, but my optimism is guarded.
2015-04-29 23:02:58
Skadoodle to carry
2015-04-30 00:13:15
inb4 freakazoid gets cut for swag
2015-04-30 00:31:42
no incarnati0n? rip [*]
2015-04-30 10:06:39
+Swag
-seangates

when unbanned
2015-05-01 19:06:52
Freakazoid was freakishly (No pun intended) terrible in last night's game against LG.
2015-05-01 19:10:41
Freakazoid gonna be kicked after swag ban gonna breakup (wut) and than SWAG will join . Smart move :)
2015-05-01 19:15:02
woww im from future and c9 will be on 3 grand finals straight
2015-07-20 06:53:17

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