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Top 20 players of 2015: f0rest (16)
Time: 2016-01-05 22:30
Game: Counter-Strike: Global Offensive

As we progress further down the list, it is time for Patrik "f0rest" Lindberg, who deserved the 16th spot due to his tournament-wide consistency, ability to open up rounds, and impact on NiP's round wins.

Patrik "f0rest" Lindberg is the second most seasoned player on our list of top 20 players of 2015 after Filip "NEO" Kubski. The 27-year-old has been around the professional Counter-Strike scene for more than a decade, having started in 2005 with Begrip.

After joining fnatic in 2006 and becoming one of the best players in the world, in 2009 he first came into contact with who would become his long-time teammate, Christopher "GeT_RiGhT" Alesund, in the same organization. The two players then left for SK Gaming in late 2010, and in 2012 created NiP Gaming for CS:GO who would go on to break records.

The Swede has established himself as a legend, as he's been one of the best players each year of his 10-year journey. This year he shows up outside of the top 10 for the first time in the five-year history of our top 20 players rankings; he placed 6th in 2010, 5th in 2011, 2nd in 2013, and 7th in 2014.

Lindberg kicked 2015 off with a second place with NiP—who fielded Mikail "Maikelele" Bill at the time—at MLG X Games Aspen. He didn't put in a very significant performance there in terms of statistics, although no one from the team did in the double-digit results in most cases, even in wins.

His best event rating-wise came at ASUS ROG Winter 2015 in Helsinki, which was also the only tournament NiP have won in 2015. His 1.23 rating was the 2nd best within the team (3rd overall at the event) behind Bill, which can also be said for his grand final performance. In their 16-14 victory on de_cache versus Titan, he and Bill were the big swing vote, as both recorded 1.30+ ratings, which was also one of the few times Lindberg has had a great showing in big matches.

By then the first major of 2015, ESL One Katowice, was around the corner. There the first signs of struggles in big matches started showing up for Lindberg. He had a solid showing in the group stage, although it was up against Keyd Stars and CLG, who weren't supposed to pose as much of a threat at the time.

f0rest's quad-kill highlight from ESL One Katowice quarter-final versus TSM

The TSM encounter in the quarter-finals also went quite well for him, same goes for the EnVyUs semi-final, but map three of the grand final against fnatic, de_inferno, was one of his worst in 2015. A measly 0.52 rating in a 13-16 loss—in the decider of a grand final—was a bitter pill to swallow for NiP, who were very close to another major title.

Whether that map had an effect on him in the coming month or so is uncertain, but the fact is, his only two individually bad tournaments of the year followed at Gfinity Spring Masters 1 and CCS Kick-off Season Finals. A couple of 0.90 ratings at those two events were one of the few cases in which Lindberg was not at least the 3rd best within NiP.

In between the two disappointing events he did quite well at SLTV StarSeries XII Finals, to the extent that he actually played his best map all year against TSM in the consolidation final. He definitely lived up to his de_nuke reputation by scoring 23:7 in the rounds NiP won, nearly half of which were opening kills (11). With that he carried his team to victory despite having to overcome a 3-12 deficit.

POV from de_nuke, map two against TSM in the consolidation final of StarSeries XII

What's interesting about this period for Lindberg is that his drop in form mostly comes from matches against one particular team: EnVyUs. Over the course of the three aforementioned events NiP played 13 maps against the Frenchmen, 10 of which they lost, by a big margin. At that time Lindberg underperformed significantly in the match-up, with the exception of one map, the quadruple overtime de_dust2 battle at CCS Kick-off Season Finals.

FACEIT Stage 1 Finals also wasn't very fruitful from the Swede despite his 1.04 rating there, as a lot of it is due to the fact that he met Immunity on four maps in the group stage, three of which were 16-5 blowouts, or worse. It has to be said that the remaining one—the first one, actually—was a 30-round de_dust2, where he carried his team with a 30-16 scoreline.

The 27-year-old recovered from the bad period fairly quickly, it was his only one this past year, and it only lasted about a month. At the second Spring Masters everything turned around, as his 1.21 rating was the best within NiP (5th overall). He also had one of the highest kills per round (0.85, 3rd overall), survived, kill or assist percentage (71.0%, 4th) and success in opening duels (65.1%, 3rd) at the event, all of which in spite of a 5th-6th finish.

f0rest's poor form only lasted a short while

Lindberg returned to his average level in time for DreamHack Open Summer and Gfinity Summer Masters 1, which was enough for the team to pick up a 3rd-4th and a 2nd place, respectively. Apart from a solid 1.19 rating at ESWC, he had a somewhat insignificant first place in the headshot percentage with 60.6%. NiP's result there was the first of three shared fifth places during July-August, but in their infamous loss to FlipSid3—who featured Spencer "Hiko" Martin as stand-in—Lindberg had a solid showing, especially on the decider, de_overpass (1.37 rating).

The other two early exits came in at FACEIT Stage 2 Finals at DreamHack Valencia and the second major, ESL One Cologne, which was the first time NiP didn't get to a major final. Both tournaments were along the same lines as most of the year: the Swede played consistently, but not to his superstar level.

At ESL ESEA Dubai Invitational he showed up in very good form in an overtime battle against Cloud9 in the elimination match, as well as on one of the maps of each of their EnVyUs and TSM best-of-three encounters. He was the best or the second best player in the matches that mattered.

At Gfinity Champion of Champions, where NiP only played a best-of-five against fnatic, Lindberg was the main reason his team made the series close by winning de_inferno and de_dust2, both in overtime.

NiP likely wouldn't be standing there hadn't it been for f0rest

A similar case could be made for major number three, Dreamhack Open Cluj-Napoca. He certainly showed up in the group stage, where he was by far NiP's best player, and was surely the biggest reason they even made it out of the scary group featuring Virtus.pro, Titan and Liquid. When play-offs came around, he fell off significantly, especially during the TSM series in the quarter-finals. That wasn't such an issue, since NiP managed to advance after two comfortable maps without him starring. The Na`Vi semi-final was, simply put, a landslide with no survivors, and this time Lindberg couldn't save the day, as he—the same as everyone else—disappeared from the server.

Overall the last major was still a good tournament for him, and towards the end of the year he stepped it up. At FACEIT Stage 3 Finals he was NiP's second best player behind Aleksi "allu" Jalli, which was also an event where he picked up three of his personal tournament highs: Most rounds with multiple kills (25.0%), most AWP kills per round (0.28), and most rounds with at least 1 AWP kill (16.7%).

Finally, to end the year at Fragbite Masters Season 5 Finals, he carried NiP to another silver medal against his long-time rivals from fnatic, before he fell off quite a bit in the grand final itself.

Why is he the 16th best player of 2015?

Lindberg made it into 2015's top 20 especially due to his tournament-wide consistency. During 2015 he very rarely had a bad tournament overall; only in two cases, at Gfinity Spring Masters 1 and CCS Kick-off Season Finals.

His aggression played a significant part in his placing as well. On both sides combined he ranks 8th at opening kills per round (0.13), which also often had an impact on round wins for NiP. 18.2% of NiP's round wins came after his opening kills, which is good for 10th most in the world. Plus, as we can see on the graph below, that percentage increased to 20.7% at the majors, which is where he made a lot of impact in general by helping NiP remain "Legends" throughout the year.

He was his team's most impactful player when looking at the difference of NiP's round win percentage when he got a kill (67%) and when he did not (37%). Apart from that, Lindberg was one of the best fraggers at all three majors with 0.75 kills per round (highest in NiP, 8th overall).

And last but not least, he stood his ground in the pistol rounds. In that department he stayed at the top with 0.86 kills per pistol round (9th overall).

While his consistency was one of the best in the world having only two of nineteen tournaments with below average rating, he didn't stand out, as rarely was he one of the best players at an event. His track record in big matches (semi-finals, upper bracket finals, consolidation finals and grand finals) overall and in grand finals only was the lowest out of everyone in the top 20 (0.96 rating in big matches, 0.88 in grand finals only); those are the main reasons he couldn't be placed higher on the list.

What do you make of Lindberg's level across 2015? Which position in the top 20 did he deserve according to you, if any at all? Let us know in the comments below.

Stay tuned to our Top 20 players of 2015 ranking powered by EGB.com and keep track of the list over at the Introduction article.

2016-01-05 20:01:20
well how will be get right then
2016-01-05 20:02:50
between 11th and 15th
2016-01-05 20:04:09
No way, he will be under 10.
2016-01-05 20:05:13
not sure if misplaced comma or...?
2016-01-05 20:05:40
No, correctly placed comma. Under 10 as in 5-10.
2016-01-05 20:06:09
thats not 'under' 10th thats 'above' 10th... 1st place is highest, from there it goes lower and lower and lower in position. just because the mathematical number is higher doesnt mean 1st is 'lowest'.

under 10th in this list would be 11th-20th.

ps - no he will not be in the top10, for the simple fact that there has been 10 players better than him.
2016-01-05 20:08:31
Depends, numerically (is that even a word lol) 5 is below 10, right. 5th spot is below 10th, even if it has a higher ranking value.
2016-01-05 20:12:49
no. 5 is below 10. 5th is above 10th. 5th has a higher value than 10th, therefore 10th is below 5th.
2016-01-05 20:13:59
It has a higher ranking value, not a higher numerical value. It all depends on what you're referring to and that's why it can cause confusion.
2016-01-05 20:14:58
it causes confusion when there is a lack of context - thats not the case here though because we are both clearly discussing ranks of top20 players of 2015.
2016-01-05 20:16:00
I'm not saying you're wrong dude, just that in my mind, "under" didn't seem wrong and it still kinda makes sense depending on with what perspective you look at it.
2016-01-05 20:17:28
in general - yes.

btw this conversation will get deleted by an admit because comment #1 always gets deleted
2016-01-05 20:18:26
Probably, not much of a loss though
2016-01-05 20:19:31
BCP is right. It's a common mistake. When referring to rankings, "higher" is the smaller number. Under 10 would imply 11-20.
2016-01-07 20:48:35
I kmow, that's what I said. And when you're referring to numerics, it's the opposite.
2016-01-07 21:23:07
Nah you should be fine, MIRAA didn't post the article.
2016-01-05 20:33:37
Yeah, because that added a ton to the discussion of f0rest's placement.
2016-01-06 09:00:42
I wasn't talking about f0rest's placement. But why are you replying if it bothers you? Cuz your post didn't add anything to the discussion of f0rest's placement either.
2016-01-06 09:11:52
Just pointing it out.

It bothers you that MIRA keeps the discussion clean?

My post served a purpose: maybe you shouldn't be so quick to judge about moderation efforts. This is about every discussion here, not just f0rest's placement. So, it's related.
2016-01-06 14:49:50
Your post served no purpose other then nagging on somebody, mind your business and learn to take a joke.

Please stop playing some pretend moderator, if my post is somehow inappropriate please report it and see it be deleted.
2016-01-06 16:10:38
It served a purpose and you fail to see it.

Oh well, too bad!
2016-01-10 16:09:07
Rankings go


Hence 5-10 is above

Post edited 2016-01-08 22:42:18
2016-01-08 22:41:55
he in fact said 5 not 5th, so you're the one being wrong
2016-01-05 20:29:07
context. its all about the context. in this case when he says 5 hes talking about the top20 ranking, in which case there is no difference between 5 and 5th other than grammar.
2016-01-05 20:32:33
olof, guardian, flusha, snax, happy, device, krimz, and maybe even kennyS are above him. I guess he will be 9

Post edited 2016-01-06 04:01:53
2016-01-06 04:01:39
Yes sounds about right
2016-01-06 08:32:06
so gtr is still the most overrated player?
2016-01-05 20:45:38
GTR isnt overrated at all... He wrecked havoc in 2013 and 2014 and definnitely deserved to be number 1 those years. Obviously this year he's not going to be number 1, but still during NiP's slumps he pulled out some crazy frags and clutches, he's had so many highlight reels this year, as he had in 2013 and 2014. Frags in very crucial rounds and clutches in very important parts during a game. His stats are almost always fantastic as well, though this year he wasnt as consistent. I'd say he's around number 8 to 10 this year probably
2016-01-05 21:16:13
its 2015 not 2013 or '14
he actually is overrated af
2016-01-05 21:39:33
I disagree. He's made some of the greatest plays and clutches of all time. One of the most legendary players from 1.6. Always a dependable player. He's earned every bit of hype from the 10 plus years he's been playing. People look at rain and taco and think "WOW look at these highlight reels that he has, he's a top tier player". But GTR's had like at least 10 amazing plays this year and has been doing crazy shit since CSGO started. Again, he's earned every bit of his fame, and he still performed well this year relative to everyone else's performances.
I don't understand why you think he's overrated. Care to explain how?
2016-01-05 21:43:52
I will explain:

"One of the most legendary players from 1.6. Always a dependable player."

It is not CS 1.6, it is ranking for 2k15, and in 2k15 I'm sure he will be placed higher than deserved.

"He's earned every bit of hype from the 10 plus years he's been playing."

This ranking only cares about LAST YEAR, not all the hype he got in 10 years, but in 1 year.

"he still performed well this year relative to everyone else's performances."

not as well to be placed as high as I think he will be. He was NOT a beast like in ESL Cologne 2k14 when they won, it was simply NOT his year. So in ranking covering LAST YEAR's performances I believe he will be overrated.
2016-01-05 22:23:19
2016-01-05 22:27:21
You keep talking about "overrated", but ratings are considered from performances from every year. I'm not talking about ratings for this list by the way. I'm just talking about how players are rated by viewers. GTR has a reputation that he's built up through the years, and you can't help that, of course he's going to be viewed highly. On the other hand, the analysts DONT consider 2014 obviously. You can be salty all you want but once GTR makes the list you'll have a thorough explanation as to why, from analysts who do this as their JOB. Have u seen every single match and recorded the stats of every single player and compared them amongst each other? No, i'm pretty sure you haven't. So you can have your opinion all u want, but at the end of the day the multiple analysts that help make this list know way better than you, and have THOROUGHLY analyzed every player better than you. So quit complaining
2016-01-05 23:18:58
deserved 2014? based on what? kennyS, pasha & flusha were twice as good in 2014
gtr in the top 10 would be laughable for 2015, but he got a reputation and thats help massively again :)

Post edited 2016-01-05 22:54:52
2016-01-05 22:54:14
Twice as good? Oh then explain how all the csgo analysts disagree with you. You must be a pro analyst huh? Based on what? Based off of his performance and stats. If KennyS were on NiP, and GTR were on titan back in 2014, then of course kenny would've been first and not GTR. That's because achievements are considered... How do u not know this? Achievements, stats, consistency, and overall performance were considered to see GTR as number 1 of 2013 and 2014. Be salty all u want, but those are the facts. Idc if u disagree with me, but if you're going to call me an idiot then I guess you should be a cs go analyst and record every single match and analyze every single game from every single player to see who deserves what and make your own list
2016-01-05 23:14:49
where did i call u an idiot?

ive had a long discussion with some hltv writer about kennyS only being 4th or sth like that in 2014. it made no sense based on individual performance which u mention (stats, consistency & overall performance). the only thing that went against him was "achievement" with titan which put him from easily number 1 to somewhere around 4th.

so i dont see where im wrong, team achievements have to be considered SOMEHOW, but shouldnt push some clearly worse performance OVER 1 YEAR above someone else. And kennyS was by far the best player only followed by flusha if u consider his team success aswell. its not like nip dominated 2014, they had 2 solid majors and thats about it ALL YEAR.
2016-01-06 12:51:44
Even if hes overrated he deserves it.
2016-01-07 06:10:05
I still don't understand how the fuck nip have 3 players in the top20 this year, am I missing something or did they really not win anything and finished 6th in winnings after Na'Vi?
2016-01-05 20:08:56
because nip had 3 top20 players
2016-01-05 20:12:25
nip had a lot of top4 finishes, and they played more tournaments than navi. F0rest, get right and allu also had really good statistics even tho nip didn't win anything. Everytime nip won vs a tier1 was because at least 2 of those 3 players were carrying them
2016-01-05 20:17:06
I'm not saying they did that bad, I'm just saying it doesn't make sense when 4 other teams did much better than them and Na'Vi slightly better.

clearly you can't take top3 from every other team like they did with NiP as there isn't enough room so that means they left someone out from teams that did much better...
2016-01-05 20:20:17
Let's be honest, the only reason navi ever won anything was because Guardian was on fire. Other than that they did well because they were a good team. However if you look at every players performance individually then these NiP players deserve top 20 status.
2016-01-05 21:55:20
Well they didn't actually have a bad year, as they placed 2-4 in most tournaments and only did worse 2 or 3 times. I've never understood people who think a team is shit if they're not winning tournaments all the time. If you look at the stats, NiP had quite a consistent year. Do you consider Barcelona a bad football team because they don't win the Champions League every year?
2016-01-05 20:24:01
again I didn't say they did that bad, I'm just saying that 3 players is too much, allu should not have been on the top20 list only gtr and f0rest.
2016-01-05 20:51:33
If any NiP player it should be allu
2016-01-05 21:49:30
Allu should of been in top 20 list he did amazing this year he was pretty much the best out of the whole nip lineup.
2016-01-07 06:11:06
you can't argue logically here. People look at nip and see that they didnt win anything and therefore they are complete shit.
2016-01-05 20:55:32
It's funny because, say we replaced NiP with hmm, G2 for example, and say all the players were replaced as well. If G2 achieved and did everything NiP did this year, then no one would complain because they'd be like "DAMN G2 did so well this year, they placed well in every single tournament and even made it to the finals of katowice against Fnatic, and also made the playoffs of every major and were quarterfinalists"
It's all relativity. Everyone thinks that since NiP didn't do as well as this year, that they're just irrelevant now. Whereas if you have a lesser team like G2 accomplish what NiP did, then they'd think G2 was incredible and one of the best teams in the world now.
People are so blind and biased...
2016-01-05 21:21:04
+1 very well said.
2016-01-05 21:22:31
Cus they are so overrated cus of there performances in 2012-2014 so people expect them to always have those results.
2016-01-07 06:12:23
anyway here's the remaining top15:

RIP pasha 500K$ winnings > 270K$ never forget
2016-01-05 21:06:56
GTR had a better performance than Shox this year... without a doubt. Pretty sure he's accomplished more too
2016-01-05 21:23:01
heh actually missed out on gtr and now I can't edit well there goes that top15
2016-01-05 21:24:19
RiP NiP GtR </3
2016-01-05 21:24:51
Pasha is still RIP though
2016-01-05 21:25:30
he forgot COLD :(
2016-01-05 23:06:03
Nope... No brazilian player will be there... A hltv mod told me... Feelsbadman
2016-01-05 23:25:34
Fallen should rather be in there instead of fallen but I dont think any of your players will make top 20 just like none of our players will make top 100.
2016-01-07 06:14:04
Shox won more this year(5 first finishes vs GTR's 1). They have about the same amount of top 4s as well. Shox wins in accomplishments

GTR has a 1.11 LAN rating for 2015, Shox has 1.09, so GTR wins that category.

Shox has a 1.11(7th best of 2015) MAJOR rating, GTR has 1.08. Shox wins that one

Shox is the best clutcher of 2015 (2nd best win % and second most clutches won) GTR isn't even top 5 on that list. Shox takes that one

Shox has an entry kill rating of 1.10, GTR has 1.01. Shox wins that one

I don't think shox was MVP of any tournaments, GTR was at 1(not counting the play it cool shit tourny).

They will place close to each other I believe, probably between 10-13
2016-01-06 13:27:45
4 players didn't attend FACEIT Stage 3 Finals at DHW.
in ur list there are 4 - guardian, shox, seized, flamie + skadoodle = 5.
2016-01-05 21:30:08
guess shox really isn't in the top20 after all because the other gotta be, so -shox +gtr and it's the remaining players
2016-01-05 21:38:49
Are you stupid? Shox has loads of 1st and top 4s this year. He has the 7th highest rating in majors out of all the players that attended all three. Shox is also the best clutcher of 2015 as well. He will be in the top 20 for sure.
2016-01-05 21:52:48
jw? not a chance
2016-01-05 21:47:30
shox? and how do you explain his performance this year smarthead? .. tbh neither he or GR should be on the list, or neo etc.. there are many other players who performed better this years.. karrigan for example.. he played really good.. what about pronax ? if we talk winning he won pretty much for fanatic, same with karrigan.. so don't talk about how MUCH NiP or SOMEONE WON and put other players before Pronax and karrigan on your list.. your arguing in previous posts about WINING SOMETHING doesnt make any sense than..

This RANK is based on personal statistic.. so if 3 players performed inzane in one team why shouldent they be on the list ? only cause they didnt win anything? .. maybe they performed better than all 5 players from other team... after all Counter strike is a teamplay game and strategi.. if you dont teamwork , than you probably loose..

So stop being childish and hate on REAL statistic and others work...
2016-01-06 02:11:58
SHOX? in 2015? Are you kidding mate? HAHJAHAHAHAHA
2016-01-07 23:50:32
nigga please this is an old post and I didn't even have gtr


Post edited 2016-01-07 23:53:48
2016-01-07 23:52:49
2016 post "old post" HAHAHAHA. "SHOX" lmao, I wonder how people can this be dumb. You must be a silver
2016-01-07 23:54:14
because strats > skill ?! it's obvious , look at NiP teamwork, outdated strats etc . Xizt is an awesome player but he need to earn new igl things
2016-01-05 21:35:10
sure they had good statistic cuz they played 4on5 every match
2016-01-05 22:55:30
f0rest no my friend f0rest top5-6 Kappa
2016-01-05 20:19:48
2016-01-05 20:22:11
it's obvious stupido HUNDEN cuz he is the bestest
2016-01-05 20:43:23
Players like neo forest ..... alu lol
2016-01-07 16:48:59
2016-01-07 23:53:31
2016-01-05 20:01:29
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Post edited 2016-01-05 20:01:58
2016-01-05 20:01:39
2016-01-05 20:01:40
2016-01-05 20:01:46
only 16?
2016-01-05 20:01:51
2016-01-05 20:01:59
expected him to be way higher in this list
2016-01-05 20:02:02
2016-01-05 20:02:06
2016-01-05 20:02:06
fak doood
2016-01-05 20:02:28
did someone predicted it?
2016-01-05 20:02:30
2016-01-05 20:07:40
please tell us #15
2016-01-05 20:18:28
2016-01-05 20:02:32
2016-01-05 20:02:34
forest>allu by hltv, nt
2016-01-05 20:02:37
Forest will always be in the Hltv's TOP20 listuntill he'll retired, whatever...

It's seems obvious now.

Post edited 2016-01-05 20:07:04
2016-01-05 20:06:34
Rigged as fuck
2016-01-05 20:13:02
Well the guy played 19 tournaments and in 17 of them he scored a rating above 1.0, how is that not deserving of a top 20 ranking, especially considering how bad the team was playing for a better part of the year. F0rest and Allu were carrying hard.
2016-01-05 20:36:39
2016-01-05 21:58:44
kinda expected, right?
2016-01-05 20:02:47
2016-01-05 20:02:59
its me
2016-01-05 20:03:01
Can u hear me?
2016-01-05 20:04:32
I'm in California dreaming about who we used to be
2016-01-05 20:06:33
Flamie ur next
2016-01-05 20:06:35
Im the #1 comment

Post edited 2016-01-05 20:08:22
2016-01-05 20:07:05
What made you go around here?
2016-01-05 20:20:17
2016-01-05 21:13:04
Not really, navi achieved more than NiP last year
2016-01-06 08:06:48
thank god I thought I was the only pro around here

2016-01-05 22:57:40
how ya doing
2016-01-06 01:01:42
whoever thinks he should be higher wasnt watching csgo this year.. just saying.
2016-01-05 20:03:10
2016-01-05 20:10:58
Waiting for top 10. F0rest > All
2016-01-05 20:03:12
Not in 2015 smelly Brazilian
2016-01-07 23:51:07
2016-01-05 20:03:15
Should be way higher, bullshit list.
2016-01-05 20:03:18
2016-01-05 20:04:15
2016-01-05 20:13:56
shouldn't even been on the list
2016-01-05 20:19:41
Nt joelz, go to lan first.
2016-01-05 20:27:04
Nt Gandhi go fuck goats
2016-01-05 20:34:32
Lol rekt af
2016-01-05 20:59:51
fact = rekt i suppose, but we.
2016-01-06 03:53:41
2016-01-05 21:20:24
2016-01-06 00:16:00
2016-01-06 02:13:34
lol typical uneducated reply, got something better back there?
2016-01-06 03:51:56
Just face it you got destroyed xd
2016-01-06 09:15:57
Typical finns,how did he get destroyed?"go fuck goats"what kind of insult is that?
2016-01-06 09:58:35
Eh he was just stating the fact that you guys fuck goats...
2016-01-06 11:36:12
which isnt true
2016-01-06 11:36:46
lmao xD goats terrorists gandhi curry, educate yourself proper, reading things off of internet and generalising are not the same as facts. One butthurt tard says f0rest shouldnt be on the list without even reading the article, gets replied for it, does not have valid points so burps shit he saw on the internet, so please, dont be a retard unless you really are one like him.
2016-01-06 11:39:56
jesus christ don't take hltv so seriously o,o

Post edited 2016-01-06 22:56:43
2016-01-06 22:56:36
2016-01-05 22:39:28
1.05 lan rating 2015, and should be higher? ok
2016-01-05 21:36:06
forest > neo in 2015 xD kek
2016-01-05 20:03:28
hahahahahahhahahahah... THE First time he isnt placed in top10.
2016-01-05 20:03:38
lower than expected tbh. f0rest>neo hltv confirmed lmfao
2016-01-05 20:03:39
Confirmed years ago
2016-01-05 20:04:25
in CSGO yes
2016-01-05 21:01:35
obviously right?
2016-01-05 20:05:05
It has been confirmed for several years now where have you been :>
2016-01-05 20:31:15
few years at best.
1.6 neo
csgo f0rest
1.6 + csgo neo
2016-01-06 00:54:37
1.6 + go would be f0rest...

Neo hasnt been top20 until this years ranking. Yet imo he didnt even deserve it but because people like rain had a worse team who couldnt attend more 250k events he isnt going to be on the ranking where as neo will be.

Even thorin feels like Neo shouldnt be on that ranking.
2016-01-06 00:56:21
wait.. who? Thorin? IM NOT GONNA TALK TO YOU ANYMORE. THORIN. haha. hahahahaha.
2016-01-06 00:57:32
I guess your another fanboy that Thorin pissed of :>
2016-01-06 01:09:16
times, they are a-changin'
2016-01-05 20:03:54
well deserved
2016-01-05 20:04:29
LMAO wtf
2016-01-05 20:04:36
2016-01-05 20:04:39
2016-01-05 20:04:50
TFW when you see that something isnt right
2016-01-05 20:05:35
2016-01-05 20:05:36
these blind fanboys who think that he should be higher,just lol...

its from WHOLE YEAR ffs
2016-01-05 20:05:40
pretty accurate for his form in 2015

gj f0rp
2016-01-05 20:06:33
2015 Top 20 Potentials - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10epVWy-5fN..

Only 3 players who did not attend DHW remaining!
2016-01-05 20:07:24
if f0rest is 16°, GT is not top 20... f0rest played better than GTR in 2015
2016-01-05 20:07:50
yeah i also felt like that
2016-01-05 20:10:53
nt, Götze :(
2016-01-05 20:11:58
im müller actually
2016-01-05 20:13:18
what??gtr will ofcourse be in top 20 wtf..people nowadays x
2016-01-05 20:32:08
You obviously only remember the end of 2015. GTR played way better than f0rest rofl. f0rest dont step up in finals, if he did NiP would probably have won something last year.
2016-01-05 20:45:16
2016-01-05 21:00:58
2016-01-05 20:08:17
Expected kinda
2016-01-05 20:08:20
if gtr is top10, this ranking is a joke
2016-01-05 20:09:04
hltv ranking always been a joke
2016-01-05 22:41:53
i have a feeling that GTR wont be in top10 xD
2016-01-05 20:09:26
GTR is not gonna be in top 20. If he is, thats just fucking fanboyism by the one who made the list.
2016-01-05 20:09:38
XDDDDDDDDDD top 5 dosia pls hltv
2016-01-05 20:09:40
i said this irl to my friend
2016-01-05 20:09:49
GTR not in TOP20 LOL
2016-01-05 20:10:07
2016-01-05 20:10:29
WTF hltv ???
2016-01-05 20:10:51
2016-01-05 20:11:10
2016-01-05 20:11:53
2016-01-05 20:11:53
2016-01-05 20:12:16
2016-01-05 20:12:26
if f0rest keep his form from last 5 mounths (2015) in 2016, he will be top5 player for sure.

Post edited 2016-01-05 20:13:46
2016-01-05 20:13:32
top 10
2016-01-05 20:13:46
still n.1 for me :)))) :3
2016-01-05 20:14:16
He deserved a better spot &#128528;
2016-01-05 20:15:36
this spot is enough
2016-01-05 20:16:11
Why are you thinkin that he carried NIP las 5 months
2016-01-05 20:17:26
and that won them how many tournaments? his stats are obviously very good, but not more than that. this placing is just fine
2016-01-05 22:30:56
List gonna be interesting this year. Just sad rain didn't get 19 or 20. Imo he deserved it. f0rest is a beast tho, for sure nip's best player.
2016-01-05 20:16:00
Only 16? Lolwhut?
2016-01-05 20:16:21
2016-01-05 20:16:23
snax... top5
2016-01-05 20:41:26
3 guardian
4 snax
5 krimz
2016-01-05 20:45:23
rating below 1.00 in a terrible team: twice, position 16. k
2016-01-05 20:17:04
2016-01-05 20:34:29
top 10
2016-01-05 20:17:08
fukin joke
2016-01-05 20:17:46
2016-01-05 20:18:05
Thats quite an ok placement, maybe even 1-2 ranks higher since he basically saved NiP
2016-01-05 20:21:37
Whatttttt ? Omg top 1 forest !
2016-01-05 20:22:32
top 16...
2016-01-05 20:22:50
Forest > Get right.. So Get_noob isnt even in top 20 ?
2016-01-05 20:23:34
Forest will always be top 5 in my hearth <3
2016-01-05 20:23:50
GetRight has been terrible the whole year of 2015 yet will finish ahead of f0rest.. LOL
2016-01-05 20:24:46
Terrible? Pls reign in your autism, chavshit
2016-01-05 20:25:53
Do you even look up any facts before talking?
2016-01-05 21:04:48
Friberg #15
2016-01-05 20:26:14
2016-01-05 20:26:50
2016-01-05 20:30:46
should've been 11/10 , he carried nip so hard almost every game
2016-01-05 20:27:11
2016-01-05 20:27:53
top 16? nope, maybe top 18-20

Post edited 2016-01-05 20:31:21
2016-01-05 20:29:07
hltv expert here
2016-01-05 20:32:57
LMAO, best ranking ever :3 lets face it Allu was better than f0rest and everysingle member in NiP this year.
2016-01-05 20:32:34
2016-01-05 20:33:19
top20 is fucking joke
2016-01-05 20:33:47
He had over 1.00 rating in a fucking horrible shit ass team at every event but 2 and yet he is placed #16? Lol okay let me guess now. GTR Gets placed as #10...

Now i expect friberg #15 and GTR Top10 cant wait guys woooo

Post edited 2016-01-05 20:34:52
2016-01-05 20:34:05
Well that's how it works, can be placed higher if you won nothing. KennyS would have been 1st last year with your logic
2016-01-05 21:30:26
he should already retire.
2016-01-05 20:36:39
he must be 3th
2016-01-05 20:46:35
nice english
2016-01-05 20:48:34
no one cares
2016-01-05 20:48:54
i do woooo
2016-01-05 20:51:44
2016-01-05 20:50:15
ty for correct
2016-01-05 20:50:44
Im almost sure that he mean 3st.
2016-01-05 20:57:08
umm either hltv saying GTR>f0rest or GTR is not on the list
2016-01-05 20:48:07
WTF? 16... OK........
2016-01-05 20:51:13
nice, still in the best players as expected from him, keep up the good work f0rp
2016-01-05 20:52:21
15 will be
Pasha Biceps
or Flamie
2016-01-05 20:55:00
neo is the oldest player in top20 so no taz
2016-01-05 21:07:55
no g2 members, they said it in the pre ranking
and no taz
2016-01-05 21:16:00
rain and maikelele have no chances, they didn't attended two majors and two other 250k tournaments.
2016-01-05 21:39:21
They have played ESL One and Dreamhack Cluj! So there You have 2 Majors.
2016-01-05 22:53:10
And the other two 250k tournaments?
2016-01-05 23:07:05
rain play on Katowice with lgb,on cologne and on cluj
2016-01-06 14:08:17
Katowice, Cologne and Cluj... there is one missing.

Two majors AND two other 250k tournaments are needed.
2016-01-07 03:59:58
forest > neo? i arn't think that
2016-01-05 21:15:09
This is csgo m8 neo may have been a lil better in 1.6 but forest has always been way ahead in csgo
2016-01-05 22:21:09
not from my perspective, Neo did a huge job in '15 as main sniper. smart and consistent as always
2016-01-05 23:12:46
expected from polak...

Neo = 1.6 legend
f0rest = 1.6 & csgo legend

2016-01-06 00:06:54
2016-01-05 21:15:47
ska >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> f0rest

all people replying will either have swedish flag, europe flag, or world flag.

cum at me
2016-01-05 21:16:43
which will mean only retarded americans will support you, nice job m8
2016-01-05 21:31:33
im coming at you m8 wana fight? have fun with your perma swag ban
2016-01-06 04:53:41
Have fun with not having a team in the majors
2016-01-06 05:47:10
should have been atleast in top 10 imo.

my guess for top 5 players


2016-01-05 21:18:44
fnatic fan boy facepalm
2016-01-06 07:05:58
i am not a fanboy of fnatic, i just thought that hltv loves fnatic.
2016-01-16 20:53:41
not bad
2016-01-05 21:26:43
f0rest should be placed higher in my opinion. Something like 12 or 13.
2016-01-05 21:26:57
lol, at least top 5
2016-01-05 21:29:14
not sure if braindead or troll. i think he deserves top 15 but whatever
2016-01-05 21:30:22
wtf,look at his face, his beard, his eyes, him winking @ camera on LAN, also bestest personality and very cool

How can you say he not top 5?

Post edited 2016-01-05 21:36:07
2016-01-05 21:35:48
first comment with good arguments to why he should be higher.+1
2016-01-05 22:31:45
fall from grace israel
2016-01-05 21:29:41
don't tell me that get right is gonna get a higher place than f0rest, that would be totally wrong :)
2016-01-05 21:31:46
2016-01-05 21:33:38
2016-01-06 11:16:58
tier 3 in top 20?
2016-01-05 21:34:45
neo is tier 2
2016-01-05 21:57:47
lmao 1.05 LAN rating in 2015 and people want him higher hahahahhahahahhhadhshahjdhhAHAHahHAHAH
2016-01-05 21:36:50
I don't want him on this list, especially NOT above allu.
2016-01-05 21:42:44
nt lurpis
2016-01-06 04:54:29
Who cares what you want :D
2016-01-06 09:15:29
Sad to see that legend not even making it in top 10... -.-
2016-01-05 21:49:34
I had him around #12 :S
2016-01-05 21:51:56
Came to see butthurt NiP fans. Wasn't dissapointed.
2016-01-05 21:52:18
everyone joining the list is <27 years , confirmed.
2016-01-05 21:54:50
Rekt nip fans
2016-01-05 21:55:31
forp > neo
i feel sorry for polish children :(((
2016-01-05 22:04:09
hahaha so many retards, at the begining of the 2015 most of the people wanted to kick forest when gtr was carrying, and know the last two months forest performed great and gtr went to shit form and ofcourse hltv kids remember only the last month. So dont be suprised hltv tards if get right will make top 15
2016-01-05 22:09:54
80 % hltv users are polaks, they are completely mad because neo was 17 and forp is better. Anyway this rank is nonsens like all tops.
2016-01-05 22:32:03
f0rest is a great player, better than device, flusha, jw, kennyS, players who will be in the top 10 I believe. But considering that NiP wasn't so good at the half/end of the year, 16th isn't that bad. GL HF in 2016!
2016-01-05 22:12:07
2016-01-05 22:12:27
not even top 15. what a legend
2016-01-05 22:18:30
Well, f0rest and neo is the biggest legends we have in cs right now. So just stop.
2016-01-06 12:15:54
legends? this aint 2005 era. get over it fanboy
2016-01-06 16:46:45
Do you even know the meaning of the word?
2016-01-07 19:01:59
do you? fucking fanboys
2016-01-07 20:59:17
Haha to be a legend or more correctly in this case "legendary" is'nt what you have done the past year. f0rest is the best counter-strike player ever together with neo, thats why he is legendary.
2016-01-07 21:54:44
best cs player? nice troll
2016-01-07 23:02:47

pick one
2016-01-05 22:19:19
not bad for a nip player kek
2016-01-05 22:20:46
2016-01-05 22:26:00
Jw top 20?
2016-01-05 22:30:43
Hltv is that a joke? f0rest should be top 5...
2016-01-05 22:56:07
is this a fucking joke? he's nowhere near the top 20 of 2015
2016-01-05 22:59:06
This confirms ScreaM
2016-01-05 23:02:03
I'd like to see Rain, Jkaem and Nitro on the list.
2016-01-05 23:08:36
2 majors, im wrong?
2016-01-05 23:16:13
Rain is eligble, but jkaem and nitr0 aren't
2016-01-06 06:23:17
2016-01-08 17:17:52
f0rest had to carry that noob allu all the time..
2016-01-06 00:05:52
f0rest veteran
2016-01-06 00:57:51
2016-01-06 01:12:23
no xtrfy no top10
2016-01-06 01:49:29
Top 5:


Post edited 2016-01-06 02:19:55
2016-01-06 02:17:47
nt fucking retard. Fanboying this hard is 100% autistic.
2016-01-06 03:33:04
f0rest not in top 10? he was the only + player in nip this year. Now Dennis in top 10 and ranked higher than f0rest...this list is bullshit kappa

Post edited 2016-01-06 03:50:22
2016-01-06 03:48:02
#1 will be scream.


top 7 will certainly have olof, guardian, flamie, and get right. in no specific order

Post edited 2016-01-06 04:09:44
2016-01-06 04:07:41
lol are you kidding me? :D f0rest only 16 ahahahahahah
2016-01-06 04:18:17
F0rest above of get_right, GG, im done.
2016-01-06 04:29:27
above gtr?gtr will be tenth probably wtf
2016-01-07 02:24:11
You guys are losing credibility because f0rest did nothing but a 4k all-hs on Inferno all year long.
2016-01-06 06:32:17
He hit a wall in 2015 :( Hopefully he can break back into 2016 along with NIP
2016-01-06 06:53:22
really? hes at least in top 10.
2016-01-06 07:08:04
Top 10!!
2016-01-06 07:32:17
delusional people saying he should be top 10 XD
2016-01-06 09:35:18
they are wrong, he must be top 5 ^^
2016-01-06 11:18:41
lol exactly
2016-01-06 11:33:10
should be top1
2016-01-06 10:38:03
f0rest 16!
n2 hltv
2016-01-06 11:20:23
nooooo :(
2016-01-06 11:32:15
should be higher :(
2016-01-06 11:36:18
2016-01-06 12:15:09
FeelsBadMan mfw the best cs 1.6 player of all time is now in a washed up tier 3 team FeelsBadMan
2016-01-06 12:24:24
f0rest <3
2016-01-06 12:39:33
2016-01-06 12:41:16
f0rest ftw <3
2016-01-06 12:43:28
i love f0rest, but still, i think neo deserved to be a better place than him. f0rest started to shine late 2015, meanwhile neo was still good since summer.
2016-01-06 13:08:29
f0rest deserves a better place in the rank, but it's only statistics right ? :)
2016-01-06 16:12:32
omg rly???

Post edited 2016-01-06 17:32:02
2016-01-06 17:31:39
F0rest was really good in 2015 imo
2016-01-06 17:36:32
f0rest n1
2016-01-06 17:46:19
f0rest > neo

hltv confirmed
2016-01-06 17:48:27
lmao f0rest should be at least top 5, the guys making this top pls retire
2016-01-06 20:58:16
not in 2015 kid
2016-01-07 23:51:42
"kid" and you're under 14 :(
2016-01-08 00:31:35
I am 15 so you're wrong.
2016-01-08 03:56:35
This is a joke.
2016-01-06 22:05:24
f0rest, neo... what else
2016-01-07 10:56:30
bolt better than forest? kappa
2016-01-07 14:17:35
WHY not top 10 :(
2016-01-07 14:18:30
because grills sabotage
2016-01-07 14:28:46
Can anyone give me some best play of f0rest in 2015? pliiz
2016-01-07 15:20:54
Nothing! Because he played ........... in 2015
2016-01-07 23:49:20
i love you f0rest
2016-01-07 19:03:20
MAD NIP fanboys! I am even surprised Forest is in top 20 in 2015 because he is just flat mehhhhhhhh. Not the same Forest anymore
2016-01-07 23:48:34
f0rest 2015 highlight:
2016-01-08 08:29:08
2016-01-08 19:14:31
Striker, wtf?

F0rest so low? and shitplayers have higher ranks. Bet that maybe only 2-3 players could beat him 1v1...

Amazing rifle skill+top1 tier AWP skill, also one of the best PISTOL players.

So shit place, just because of few month slump

K, striker

Post edited 2016-01-09 02:33:48
2016-01-09 02:26:04
he has been slumping the whole year along with the other players lmao nip fanboy spotted

Post edited 2016-01-16 20:55:44
2016-01-16 20:55:25
last year i mean**
2016-01-16 20:55:59
forp top 1 ofc!
2016-01-09 21:25:26

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