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TheMongolz to miss MLG qualifier
Time: 2016-02-23 12:00
Game: Counter-Strike: Global Offensive

TheMongolz's plans to travel to America this week to compete at the MLG Columbus qualifier have been halted after being refused visas.

The Mongolian team were due to fight for a spot at the upcoming major after winning the Asia Minor Championship, only to be refused entry on the grounds of not being able to provide enough evidence that the players would return home after the tournament.

TheMongolz's visa application has twice been refused, and with the US embassy in Mongolia not taking visa appointments on Wednesday, the team's hopes of attending the event have gone up in smoke.

Machinegun's team will not attend the MLG Columbus major qualifier 

Group C of the MLG Columbus Qualifier, which will kick off on Friday, is now down to just three teams - CLG, Vexed Gaming and SK Gaming.

TheMongolz, who caused a sensation by beating Renegades in the grand final of the Asia Minor, are due to travel to Beijing later this week to apply for a Polish visa to be able to attend IEM Katowice as Mongolia does not have a Polish embassy.

No :(

Post edited 2016-02-23 12:01:56
2016-02-23 12:01:49
This is a tactical move by the us embassy in Mongolia to increase chances for American teams to attend in the major
2016-02-23 13:01:50
hahaha u prob right :D
2016-02-23 13:04:00
made my day xD
2016-02-23 14:58:20
hahahahaha you made me laugh, good job :)
2016-02-23 13:32:29
2016-02-23 13:47:51
2016-02-23 13:53:13
2016-02-23 13:58:03
2016-02-23 14:13:49
dat was sick m8
honestly rofled
2016-02-23 15:56:37
2016-02-23 17:39:05
thanks obama
2016-02-23 17:42:55
im glad i didnt have to roll down further to see this comment. I was thinking sorta same.
2016-02-23 18:17:16
2016-02-23 18:59:38
iluminatti confirmed
2016-02-24 02:01:12
no this is just american being america
racist rednecks
2016-02-24 02:36:21
If clg doesnt make it to this major i will become an eu fangay
2016-02-24 04:40:16
So fking sad :( I hope they make it to Katowice
2016-02-23 13:02:57
2016-02-23 13:14:56
I will killmyself
2016-02-23 14:29:32
2016-02-23 16:59:04
2016-02-23 12:01:51
2016-02-23 12:01:51
2016-02-23 12:01:52
2016-02-23 12:01:54
2016-02-23 12:01:54
oh shit :(
2016-02-23 12:01:55

Post edited 2016-02-23 12:02:12
2016-02-23 12:01:57
2016-02-23 12:02:03
2016-02-23 12:02:05
2016-02-23 12:02:07
2016-02-23 12:02:10
So sad! Feel bad for the team!
2016-02-23 12:02:14
YP, mongolz
whos next?
2016-02-23 12:02:16
yp on mlg. they have csgl players: innocent szpero
2016-02-23 12:02:57
still not the original roster , are you brain damaged?
2016-02-23 12:05:03
not the original roster =/= not attempting

are you brain damaged?
2016-02-23 12:08:25
they didnt attempt the event with the ORIGINAL roster , why don't you let a syrian refugee doctor or a teacher teach you some logic?
2016-02-23 12:09:53
and whats your point you braindead retard? were the comments before yours about the original roster or about the visa?

always funny to hear shitty 3rd worlder without a flag talking bullshit.
2016-02-23 12:13:51
no point arguing here :"(
2016-02-23 12:24:22
yes, obviously. because you have none
2016-02-23 12:25:43
where are yours? lel
2016-02-23 13:04:47
hahaha nice m8
2016-02-23 16:38:10
Attempted to attend.

Speak London.
2016-02-23 12:55:02
wow what an insane mistake from a non native speaker. get a life fat burger
2016-02-23 14:16:16
nope. They have problems with American visa
2016-02-23 12:10:33
Refusing visas to Russian people is internal problem and we all know that. (I am not a person who is judging by the race, nationality, color. Yet I am not American but Live in USA.) Just cannot understand what is the problem to give the Mongolian guys visas, since their job (eSports) is in the same country where they are coming from.
2016-02-24 06:33:31
anicent pls
2016-02-23 12:02:17
2016-02-23 19:04:46
yep :)
2016-02-23 19:05:12
2016 lol
2016-02-23 12:02:41

Post edited 2016-02-23 12:03:28
2016-02-23 12:02:42
that's for IEM Katowice
2016-02-23 12:02:56
land of the free
2016-02-23 12:02:57
I wish...
2016-02-23 12:37:30
2016-02-23 13:20:31
2016 and still 3rd world problems.
2016-02-23 12:03:02
Blame Mongolia for being a developing shithole
2016-02-23 21:37:54
That's fucking dog
Fuck that shit man
2016-02-23 12:03:03
this is getting dumb.
2016-02-23 12:03:24
2016-02-23 12:03:37
They're shit, and they would lose it anyway.
2016-02-23 12:38:34
They still deserve a chance. And isnt it obvious that im a fanboy? :D
2016-02-23 14:28:10
They had a chance to qualify, and they got smashed by SK.
2016-02-23 14:28:33
True but still
2016-02-23 14:29:19
Us Visa in 3 Days Gl
2016-02-23 15:02:23
2016-02-23 12:03:43
fucking fuck :(
2016-02-23 12:03:54
"only to be refused entry on the grounds of not being able to provide enough evidence that the players would return home after the tournament."
Holy moly, that's stupid.
2016-02-23 12:03:57
not at all
2016-02-23 12:05:58
Well, it kinda is.

Post edited 2016-02-23 12:08:24
2016-02-23 12:07:08
More like not letting a citizen to enter a country. Pretty sure they can leave mongolia anyday they want to.

It's not stupid at all, nowadays a lot of people are living illegaly in countries cuz of that. Traveling with a tourist visa and not returning is one of the most famous ways of illegal immigration.

Anyway, we are living in a shit world.

Post edited 2016-02-23 12:11:14
2016-02-23 12:10:34
Come on, they definitely provide enough proof that they're actually legit e-sport competitors.
It's not like they want to enter the US without a reason like many people do.

Post edited 2016-02-23 12:12:45
2016-02-23 12:12:05
I highly doubt that e-sports are recognized as a serious thing in Mongolia. It's not even recognized as a serious thing in some ''developed'' EU countries yet.

Post edited 2016-02-23 12:15:27
2016-02-23 12:13:16
It still makes the whole situation kind of stupid. It's so dumb, people get fuckin crazy about immigration nowadays, it's not like they're coming from fuckin Syria.
Well, nothing we can do, big tournaments prolly shouldn't be organised in NA.
2016-02-23 12:15:28
Anyway, we are living in a dumb world yee.

This kind of stuff just proves how far from professional are e-sports in a lot of countries nowadays. Valve must help the players + should act just like FIFA in football when it comes to their sponsored tournaments, atleast. Idk what tournament organizers could do in this situation aswell... but the main problem is because e-sports aren't recognized as a professional job in Mongolia in this case.
2016-02-23 12:21:07
2016-02-23 14:32:54
It's Usa that denied the visas not mongolia.
2016-02-24 02:16:08
I know, never said Mongolia did.
2016-02-24 02:16:54
If anything tournament organizers should be in contact with the embassy and vouch for the players to return them home after the tournament. After all the tournament pays all trip expenses. Buying them a plane ticket back to Mongolia sure is a good enough proof is it not?
2016-02-23 12:38:35
Yeah, that would make sense and it wouldn't be really hard to do.
2016-02-23 12:46:12
The image of esports in Mongolia doesn't play a role here though. The evidence is for the US to decide if they are going to stay or not. They will at least "understand" what's the point of travelling to the US right?

Kind of sad for them, and also pretty sad for the whole world that borders and visas create such trouble.
2016-02-24 03:21:28
Obviously if e-sports were regulated as a professional activity in Mongolia that means the players are getting paid and stuff, means they have a stable situation, means they can prove with official documents that they are going to an event.

For the US, the Mongolian players are nothing but a bunch of friends going there without a proper regulation on the matter (e-sports) in their own country.

I know US denied them, never said Mongolia did so.

Post edited 2016-02-24 11:16:36
2016-02-24 11:14:58
That's right but you also said that, if esports was bigger in mongolia, they would have no problems with coming to the US. But I dont see how this has anything to do with it. I mean if they get paid and stuff, doesnt proof to the US that they are a proper team. Or we put it that way that it does proof it, but they could also take multiple emails, HLTV news, reddit posts and so on to proof who they are and why they wanna come to the US.

Do you agree?
2016-02-24 17:25:40
What does it have to do with Mongolia's eSports? USA denies them
2016-02-24 09:11:02
Obviously if e-sports were regulated as a professional activity in Mongolia that means the players are getting paid and stuff, means they have a stable situation, means they can prove with official documents that they are going to an event.

For the US, the Mongolian players are nothing but a bunch of friends going there without a proper regulation on the matter (e-sports) in their own country.

I know US denied them, never said Mongolia did so.
2016-02-24 11:16:05
It has happened with lots of normal athletes. They go to another country to participate and then claim asylum, so no, it's not a stupid reason to refuse them entrance.
2016-02-23 12:59:43
Its an automatic message
2016-02-23 14:33:48
That is the way how the US embassy works. Trust me I had been there couple of times. They do not care what you are going to do in USA, they just want proof that you will come back home :)
2016-02-24 06:35:51
so sad :(
2016-02-23 12:04:22
Sad day for Asian CS
2016-02-23 12:04:39
nice day for NA CS?
2016-02-23 17:50:07
+NRG <3 God b
2016-02-23 12:04:52
2016-02-23 12:05:48
2016-02-23 12:06:23
:[ fak merica
2016-02-23 12:06:24
Sad and so bad, that just proves how far from professional are e-sports in some countries.
2016-02-23 12:06:54
I know it probably wont ever happen, but it would be nice if the hosts of the tournament could do something to help players to get visa for the tournament ;C (not sure how it would work but yea.. ;D)
2016-02-23 12:07:09
why the F... they even had to qualify @ Asia minor if they cant go to Main qualification ? >_<
2016-02-23 12:07:24
Yeah, they certainly knew that their visa applications are going to get denied twice, LMAO.

Seriously, wtf is wrong with you ?

Post edited 2016-02-23 12:48:00
2016-02-23 12:47:18
He means "WTF...They qualified at the Asia Minor just to be denied from going to the Main qualifier? >_<"
2016-02-23 13:06:10
If that's the case, then I apologise, but it's kinda hard to understand what he is trying to say when it could be interpreted both ways.
2016-02-23 13:09:24
sorry for my bad english, Sandays was right (Thank you). They were playing for a chance to get into the Major tournament, one of the biggest events in the year and then they cant even get VISA. IMO, almost every team which participated in Asia Minor wouldnt get visa application and probably they would miss the main qualification as well. In this case there werent even a reason to host Asia Minor, thats what I've tryed to say :)
2016-02-23 16:28:23
Valve should do what Riot did for LCS participants in order to fix those issues with visas or they shouldn't host a major in USA.
2016-02-23 16:38:02
I don't think they can do very much about visa issues or ????
2016-02-23 18:09:06
So fucking sad man, those guys worked their ass off for it. They put in so much time just for that event. Fucking tilted now, poor blokes.
2016-02-23 12:07:28
This is why no asia cs , fucking visa bullshit
2016-02-23 12:08:21
I do agree MLG sucks at making tournaments. The only reason they're sponsored by Valve now is because they payed them a bunch of money and they wanted an American major. It still dosn't make up for thr U.S. denying entry tho, even though e-sports is recognized as a valad reason for a sports entry in the U.S. they find some other way to fuck the team over. Please sombody help me move to Sweden U.S. government sucks. Oh wait they wont let me because I'm considered an immigrant from a "safe country". GG. Rip. Was really looking forawrd to the Monglz. [*]
2016-02-23 14:17:09
I want Machinegun sticket ffs.
with their group.. they got a fair chance to qualify.. fuck off NA, MLG
2016-02-23 12:09:01
Nooo :(

Post edited 2016-02-23 12:09:45
2016-02-23 12:09:25
thanks obama, rigged tournament so that there will be another NA team in groups because no other team will get visa handled fast enough...
2016-02-23 12:09:36
renegades are the one who are supposed to get this spot, not another tier 3 american team.
2016-02-23 12:10:38
oh that's better then, Australia is in visa waiver program so they can hopefully get to the US in time. still not deserved to them, but better than some NA team...

Post edited 2016-02-23 12:13:37
2016-02-23 12:13:01
Pretty sure spunj and co live in US atm.

Post edited 2016-02-23 12:13:58
2016-02-23 12:13:41
Except renegades don't deserve it.
2016-02-23 12:13:08
They are already in
Both Mongolz and Renegades were going as they were 1st and 2nd.
Mongolz beating Renegades only meant they also go to IEM katowice
2016-02-23 12:15:45
2016-02-23 12:09:49
2016-02-23 12:15:44
lol that's true, our congress is the most toxic and petty of all time, unable to accomplish ANYTHING, just like NA CS.
2016-02-23 16:37:08
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowhy :(
they would easily qualify
2016-02-23 12:12:06
2016-02-23 12:12:25
Actually, pretty sure it is because they are from Mongolia, sadly.

+ no stable situation (like married, job, etc) it's another cause of visa refuse.
2016-02-23 12:17:03
europe has take billion refugees and America refuse take 1 team of mongols for weekend :(((
2016-02-23 12:23:33
Seriously, that's why it's shit to have any big tournaments in NA.
2016-02-23 12:12:31
Why everything in NA must be so complicated? I really wanted to see them play :/
2016-02-23 12:13:28
this is so fucking stupid. finally a good team from the asian cs scene and they cant even play at the qualifier they qualified for.
2016-02-23 12:13:40
refused entry on the grounds of not being able to provide enough evidence that the players would return home after the tournament.

MURICA lmfao
2016-02-23 12:14:29
It's an automatic message.
2016-02-23 14:36:01
there shouldn't be any majors in the USA if they keep refusing to give out visas. I do have the idea that its also the players fault for not applying in time.
2016-02-23 12:15:25
Valve should seriously step in and complain they're hurting their business or something + valve will pay for the plane tickets back to Mongolia so yeah... Fuck this shit
2016-02-23 12:48:13
?? They were declined twice, has nothing to do with whether they applied on time or not... It's been an on going thing for over a week
2016-02-23 18:06:31
As if a week is really that in time. Not sure when they qualified for the qualifier though. If they didn't have more time to apply, then I retract my previous statement.
2016-02-23 19:18:55
They applied more than a week ago but it surfaced just over a week ago on reddit... clearly they applied with more than enough time, probably 2-3 weeks+ but they were declined both times.
2016-02-23 19:20:05
Alright then. My bad.
2016-02-23 19:20:29
Hope they will be invited to next major quals
2016-02-23 12:16:06
They should, imo.
2016-02-23 12:22:04
no mongolz no fun
2016-02-23 12:16:11
fucking murica
2016-02-23 12:16:57
2016-02-23 12:17:02
This has happened too many times, this is why you shouldn't organize events in murica.

Fucking sad...
2016-02-23 12:19:44
Visa problem all the time. "#csgo2asia" they said
2016-02-23 12:20:15
2016-02-23 12:20:50
2016-02-23 12:21:20
plz invite 2nd most mongoloid team ENCE or RCTIC to usa states of america
2016-02-23 12:22:16
invite pronax please !
2016-02-23 12:22:54
2016-02-23 12:24:13
mlg columbus sucks
2016-02-23 12:25:07
Good news
2016-02-23 12:25:16
what kind of a joke major is this?
2016-02-23 12:26:02
no stickers :/
2016-02-23 12:26:28
Dont make more champs on USA =/ no one can enter =/ two br teams dont plays the minor because visa problems too
2016-02-23 12:27:36
Welp. Shit happens.
2016-02-23 12:27:53
lets rather get terrorists in our countries than mongolian esport players that try to make their hobby a job :O
2016-02-23 12:28:24
rip best team in qualifier
2016-02-23 12:28:56
2016-02-23 12:29:24
2016-02-23 12:30:13
No enter into FREEDOM for poor mongolz. :_(
May the Eagle hit the bottom of the ocean.
2016-02-23 12:30:27
Fuck you America...

I was really looking forward to see them play against big teams...

And to see Machinegun and Zilkenberg play...

They are fucking Esports players, not terrorist that will do a 9/11...

Post edited 2016-02-23 12:30:58
2016-02-23 12:30:34
yeah this is getting ridiculous
2016-02-23 12:32:45
Indeed lol, its the same shit with Dima and S0tF1K they can not enter the US to go to MLG Columbus lol.


So Team YP are using Innocent and SZPERO from CSGL as stand-ins.
2016-02-23 12:36:39
Damn now fnatic will win again instead of mongolz
2016-02-23 12:45:51
Did not say that, i think its fun to see new teams in tournaments, and now they got denied. That sucks.

You burgers think every single person that visits your shitty country is a fucking ISIS terrorist or some bullshit, i have been to the US back in 2008, You guys are like Nazi`s at the passport checkpoints.
2016-02-23 13:39:05
And you europeans complain about a few illegal immigrants when we have mexicans coming over the border all the time. Look at the from the us govts perspective, a few mongols who will probably never leave given the chance.
It isnt fair but c'est la vie
2016-02-23 14:06:21
I would rather have Mexicans in Sweden than fucking Mohamed that came from Iraq running from bombs and now acts like he is a fucking thug/Gangster
2016-02-23 15:29:15
It's almost as if a high amount of terrorism will make a country more cautious
2016-02-23 14:37:17
sad :(
2016-02-23 12:30:54
2016-02-23 12:31:13
visas gaming
visas gaming
2016-02-23 12:32:47
no more NA events please. This is just a secret plot to get more Na teams to the event :D
2016-02-23 12:33:34
ez renegades then?
2016-02-23 12:33:49
first and last major in NA, I hope
2016-02-23 12:34:00
The US doesn't recognize CS:GO as a legitimate job or reason for a visa, so they rejected 5 young, unmarried, unemployed men from a country whose GDP per capita is 1/5th that of the US, i.e. the perfect demographic for economic migrants. This is why the process for seeking asylum/refugee status in the EU overwhelmingly rejects people from countries on safe lists, because they recognize that they aren't leaving because their life is in danger, but because they want better economic opportunities. Overstaying a tourist visa is already recognized as how most illegal immigration occurs. To think people still seriously consider Trump as a legitimate candidate for president when he would make the problem so much worse. It sucks that TheMongolz can't attend with all the time they've put into practicing, but it won't change until Valve gets CS:GO the same recognition for visa applications as Riot did for LCS participants.
2016-02-23 12:34:34
yeah I totally get why it is happening, but as you say Vavle needs to work on getting csgo the recognition it requires now. The scene only grows and get's more and more international so this kind of things will only get mroe common if nothing is done about it.
2016-02-23 12:38:41
trump is the only candidate that could and would actually end the dumb wars america is involved in, so consider that before you cry about a mongolian team not making it there this time.

2016-02-23 12:41:37
he will just end the support of "moderate" rebels in syria and the gunrunning to mexico, obama's greatest achievements.
2016-02-23 16:30:41
pls never talk about politics again
2016-02-23 17:04:02
nt freakazoid
2016-02-23 17:49:19
Omg a logical response from another NA Person. I never thought I'd see one. Thank you.
2016-02-23 12:42:17
Shut the fuck up, if you don't want teams to enter your countries stop whining all the time about hosting a major.
2016-02-23 12:42:27
that's not really what he said though
2016-02-23 13:06:28
i know thats not what he said, but i bet he is one of the kids that keep whining on reddit wanting a major to be hosted in the US when we all knew since 1.6 that visa issues have prevented several times asians and east europeans from entering the states a billion times.

I have nothing against the united states rules, its their country and whatever they do their is up to them and there should be no debate about this but if you as a US citizen know that there are many obstacles preventing other teams from entering please stop whining all the time about hosting a major. Katowice was great, same with dreamhack winter in sweden, same with cologne.

2016-02-23 14:30:31
yeah sure I find it sad and the events you listed were awsome but the guy actually seems quite reasonable so I don't know if he is the right one to bash for this :D
2016-02-23 15:01:29
I'm pretty sure he cried once at least since 2013 about having a major in NA.
2016-02-23 15:54:36
And I'm pretty sure that you're mad.
2016-02-23 21:30:08
Of course I'd like a major in NA, so that it would be easier for me to watch it, but I'd rather have one in Sweden or Cologne than Columbus, Ohio. They could have held it in NYC, that might have made a lot more sense and given people an extra reason to go to the major. I've never cried about it and I've never posted on reddit.

Post edited 2016-02-23 22:25:07
2016-02-23 22:14:27
Farrrkkkk [*] mongolz
2016-02-23 12:37:53
I fucking called it! Visa issues once again.

Fuck this shit.
2016-02-23 12:40:29
2016-02-23 12:40:58
Fair enough, easy to understand why the embassy might think they wouldn't come back, still sucks though
2016-02-23 12:41:21
Easy for valve to show evidence about the plane tickets etc. Although I think muricans would still deny cause freedom.
2016-02-23 16:02:17
Buying a round trip plane ticket doesn't mean you have to come back.

Unmarried, no recognized job, no assets, not enrolled in school, etc. Literally nothing keeping them from staying if they decided to do so.

People want to get all mad about this, but it has nothing to do with CS:GO. saying "I play vidya games!" is not something that is going to change a governmental stance that keeps untold masses of illegal immigrants from entering a country that already has a serious immigration problem.
2016-02-23 21:35:21
Thats true, you would of thought valve not mlg would be able to provide more help and evidence
2016-02-23 23:23:51
Thanks valve and mlg, u goddamn idiots
2016-02-23 12:41:25
Fucking USA
2016-02-23 12:41:28
murica pls [*]
2016-02-23 12:42:41
gj USA
2016-02-23 12:43:53
First, and hopefully last major in CSGO that takes place in the US.
2016-02-23 12:44:12
We are murica, we whine all the time that we dont get allowed to host a major and when we get the opportunity we dont allow teams in.

lets hope NA doesn't get to host another major this is just sad..
2016-02-23 12:44:23
Yes, because a few thousand NA-CS fans who might have "whined" about wanting to host a major are also the policy makers who decide immigration regulations.

Translation of your post from brain-damaged-Eurotrash to London:

We are HLTV idiots who don't have more than a few braincells to think before posting literally the dumbest shit ever found on the internet. We make 4chan look like a room full of Rhodes Scholars.
2016-02-23 21:38:15
Damn, looked forward to see them play.
2016-02-23 12:44:32
WTF is this fucking joke bad sadly news.I wanted see them,fuck NA CS SCENE with all tournaments there
2016-02-23 12:44:36
Who is can calling to OBAMA?
2016-02-23 12:47:25
wp murica
2016-02-23 12:47:35
Ancient please :D
2016-02-23 12:48:35
2016-02-23 12:49:09
This sucks. On behalf of all fat americanas, I apologize.

Side note: They won't get anybody to replace Mongolz in the group? Wouldn't that be an unfair advantage for the teams in that group compared to teams in a full 4-team group?
2016-02-23 12:49:38
I guess they will be replaced by renegades
2016-02-23 12:51:55
Would hope so. Still feelsbadman about Mongolz. This was supposed to be Asian CS's big chance at breaking out to become a legit international team if they qualified for Columbus. Such a shame.
2016-02-23 12:53:38
Yeah that's sad, they could have done a lot
2016-02-23 12:54:24
actually, renegades are already in group D. It's going to be interesting to see how they go about picking the team to replace Mongolz.
2016-02-23 12:55:30
Yeah i just forgot that they didn't qualified for katowice, but damn, not chiefs neither splyce please.
2016-02-24 00:17:51
Theyre already in it, most logical choice would be chiefs or the runner up of the NA minor or LCQ
2016-02-23 14:42:53
TheMongolz xD
2016-02-23 12:49:41
feelsbad for this guys! WTF
2016-02-23 12:50:40
2016-02-23 12:51:14
that fucking sucks holy shit
2016-02-23 12:52:46
USA living in 19century
2016-02-23 12:53:06
m0e team plz
2016-02-23 12:53:45
Fucking US!
2016-02-23 12:54:33
It is unfortunate
2016-02-23 12:55:26
no renegades,f ugly logo..we need somebody with good logo..its all about sexy stickers y know..
2016-02-23 12:55:49
rip :(
2016-02-23 12:56:03
what is this visa shit lmao for real how retarded is this
2016-02-23 12:56:54
who replacing them?
2016-02-23 12:57:57
Are you blind my favela friend,
2016-02-23 13:30:31
wp murika
2016-02-23 12:58:08
So sad...was hoping to see them whoop some murican ass.
2016-02-23 12:58:36
2016-02-23 13:01:27
What a shame :(
2016-02-23 13:02:15
Just put some gps footlace on them . Prob solved.
2016-02-23 13:03:39
fuck visa problem
2016-02-23 13:03:40
2016-02-23 13:04:09
In all the photos they looked so happy to be representing their country.
Now their dreams have been ruined

2016-02-23 13:05:08
That's why there shouldn't be major in USA, Good job screwing the best Asian team. They didn't give visas to 2 YP players as well.
Fuck this, fuck murican major.

Post edited 2016-02-23 13:06:44
2016-02-23 13:05:33
I laugh. The haters known same would happen in our countries (all EU) as well.

Not new, but guess most above to liberal or young for know about life.
2016-02-23 13:05:45
And this ladies and gentlemen is why racism and hatred on foreigners is so shitty. because it leads to shit like this happening...
2016-02-23 13:08:09
lol. That racism has to this? You are totally retarded.
2016-02-23 16:22:28
Your English is retarded
2016-02-23 16:59:25
2016-02-23 13:14:27
We see this problem again and again. Last year some CIS dota players had problems obtaining visa for an American event. Not sure if this was international 5, and even more players have had this problem. Why do valve keep hosting events in America if the country have such tight visa rules?
2016-02-23 13:14:32
Because of viewers my friend ;)
2016-02-23 13:32:58
Events shouldn't be organized in the USA when it's impossible to get into that fucking shithole.
2016-02-23 13:16:54
US burger brethren pls riot or petition or something mongolz r innocent!!!
2016-02-23 13:16:55
Its really sad, but unfortunately a legitimate concern. Competing sport teams are often seen not showing up for their return flights after ended competition. We have several reports on this in Denmark too.

2016-02-23 13:17:19
Surely this has to be different though. This isn't some madeup tournament or shit like that. It's a tournament hosted by a major and legit corp in America (Valve), with a big fanbase. This is just borderline retarded.. And valve does nothing to prevent this from happening, what a surprise.
2016-02-23 13:44:54
This is not different. It's nothing to do with the actual tournament. It's out of valve's hands. I'm not saying its right, but that there is a reason for these measures, which are put into place because others have abused this in the past.

Post edited 2016-02-23 14:10:40
2016-02-23 14:09:03
they actually had a chance to qualify because of their group.
asian cs denied again
2016-02-23 13:19:23
2016-02-23 13:20:26
Ayy lmao. America so scared of asian teams raping their teams that they decided to deny their visas.
2016-02-23 13:20:29
They should replace them with #2 from the qualification and instead give them a spot at the next major in Europe without a qual - they deserved it.
2016-02-23 13:21:11
fuck NA
2016-02-23 13:22:28
The best way to avoid this kinda of sh1t is demanding the visa as a prerequisite to join the qualifier.
2016-02-23 13:27:01
the grounds of not being able to provide enough evidence that the players would return home after the tournament.

Dafuq is that?
2016-02-23 13:29:01
exactly, it confuses me too. I wonder what type of visa they applied for.

Did they perhaps not book their return flights in advance as it's not sure how far they will go in the tournament? If thats the case, then I wonder which genius came up with that plan.

Shame. I was so happy and excited to see mongolz doing so good and couldn't wait to see their matches.

Please next time hire a proper visa company that does that shit for you. And apply it in time. And get a freakin tourist visa, with complete itinerary and return flights.

eSports is difficult, everyone knows that. Who the hell cares if you come in the country as a tourist or non tourist. If you do it properly, nobody will notice a thing.

And how are these Mongolz paid? Are they employed by an organisation or are they all freelancers?

Either way...I truly hope this won't happen again. It's a shame
2016-02-23 15:25:48

:D it wont happen again if next majors will be hosted in EU,I think mongolz are paid by some sponsors.I wonder if Mongolia have esport scene and esport organisations.

I was watching the whole Renegades vs Mongolz game.And as many ppl thought I almost "knew" that Renegades got this easily,but mongolz surprised me and I was excited to see them in Columbus,but...

2016-02-23 15:29:09
I don't know if that's the case. Please...it's just a speculation. It would be stupid if it was though.

They did some stuff wrong that's obvious with the application. Perhaps they need info on how to do it properly or ways where the percentage of getting accepted is higher.

Perhaps applying for a tourist visa in duo's - separate from all others.

Everyone knows getting a business/work visa for eSports is difficult as fuck
2016-02-23 15:31:47
if you have tourist visa you are not allowed earn money in states

from what i have heard so they would basically work illegally
2016-02-24 09:17:19
There is no harm in that if you are in the eSports business. Either face difficulties like these (and miss tournaments you are qualified for, get demotivated coz of it) or you're just a tourist for a 5 day stay where you happen to compete in a computer game tournament that week and by chance win some money

2016-02-24 10:21:22
Always the same with most unknown Asian/CIS teams.

Saying that getting a visa is so easy is wrong though. A friend from Ukraine wanted to see Berlin so I invited her. She had proof of her work (she earns $2000 as a Ukrainian which is a shit ton of money, she has family back home, proof that we've met up before, an invitational letter that I cover costs just in case, proof of my income and she had to buy plane tickets BEFORE even applying for the visa. She still got denied the first time. Then she bribed the women there and got the visa.
2016-02-23 13:31:05
2016-02-23 17:51:23
doesnt matter.
Favelas top1
2016-02-23 13:34:07
2016-02-23 13:34:39
Aren't Valve one of the biggest company?
They should say somethiny to embassy. Zzzz

Vuck Falve... Guck Vaben.
2016-02-23 13:40:58
Valve dont partner with MLG anymore , cuz USA visa is so hard to get,
2016-02-23 13:41:00
No more na major pls gaben pls
2016-02-23 13:41:19
wat .-. the group is gonna start with 3 teams? that makes no sense they should put in renegates right now wtf o_O
2016-02-23 13:41:51
Renegades already qualified in group D
2016-02-23 13:50:14
2016-02-23 13:42:37
US is a bad place to host events anyway because they have this insane tax on winnings unlike every other countries
2016-02-23 13:43:05
really? wow.....
2016-02-23 13:47:48
RiP. Sad.
2016-02-23 13:49:45
they should be given a direct invite to the next major qualifier, its absolutely not their fault that US is treating foreigners like dogshit
2016-02-23 13:50:11
2016-02-23 16:33:50
2016-02-23 17:50:47
Fuck the States
2016-02-23 13:54:38
fun fact: Americans can enter mongolia without any visa

Post edited 2016-02-23 13:58:20
2016-02-23 13:57:14
That's because America isn't a shit country...

Nobody wants to immigrate from America to Mongolia but there's too high the a chance in the governments eyes that 5 Single male Mongolians stay in America for economic opportunity... You have to understand that the government doesn't recognize exports
2016-02-23 14:28:52
"You have to understand that the government doesn't recognize exports "

exactly, hence why nobody should apply for a business/work visa associated with eSports. Unless you are an European, but even then shit can be difficult.

Surely people from Mongolia are allowed to come on holidays in the States and when sufficient info is provided (income, employment history) - they will be allowed to enter as a tourist.

It annoys me the fuck out when I see these kind of things happen.

I think Thorin made a video about it, but related to LoL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT9SDqMUYW4

It's basically the same shit though. People should stop applying for eSport work/business visa's until this shit is recognized and accepted.
2016-02-23 15:38:31
hahahahahahaha usa is the shit
2016-02-23 16:17:23
yes they are allowed to come if they have proof that even on a tourist visa they will not simply stay in the country with no intentions of leaving... these guys are 5 unmarried young males, the ideal illegal immigrant lol
2016-02-24 02:34:43
lol they were applying for tourist visa, for sure not for pernament time so this argument is invalid
2016-02-23 16:19:30
yea they dont have a full time visa so it would be literally physically impossible to not leave the country
2016-02-23 17:10:57
do you not understand that nothing is forcing them to leave the country...
even on a tourist visa they can just stay where they are... it is simply impossible to track down the thousands of people on visas in the US and make sure they go back. This is in fact one of the most common types of illegal immigration to the US.
2016-02-24 02:33:14
are you retarded
2016-02-24 04:09:35
2016-02-25 01:45:23
lot of americans living mongolia
2016-02-23 18:07:21
almost laughed, not quite, but almost
2016-02-24 02:36:10
Uh yea, isn't the reason obvious?
2016-02-23 14:50:44
R.I.P :(
2016-02-23 13:58:35
Machinegun have no ammo. End of bullets.


No Kappa

2016-02-23 14:03:45
2016-02-23 14:03:51
one of them who rly deserves to attend the event.
2016-02-23 14:10:06
so sad for them :/

2016-02-23 14:10:27
2016-02-23 14:10:45

2016-02-23 14:10:58
fuck usa
2016-02-23 14:18:09
pls find someone to help them with visas.. it's so unfair that e-sports are affected bcz of politics..
2016-02-23 14:19:26
fuck USA
2016-02-23 14:24:27
noooooooooooooooooo, fkng visas
2016-02-23 14:27:12
2016-02-23 14:34:17
2016-02-23 14:34:19
should have held the tournament here in England. they will literally let anyone stay here for as long as they want, provide them benefits, etc, so the mongolz would have had no problems getting in here! real shame we wont get to see them play :(
2016-02-23 14:37:27
fucking retard usa never host major again
2016-02-23 14:43:04
They literally were some of the scummiest players in the Asian scene for a long time and are now being hailed by almost the entire scene, oh oh
2016-02-23 14:47:33
Another visa issues
Hate it man :/
2016-02-23 14:51:11
Aaaw man wtf...
2016-02-23 15:01:31
2016-02-23 15:02:58
best major
gj mlg
2016-02-23 15:04:54
Next time when major will be in USA, they should do qualifiers in country where there is not such visa issues.
2016-02-23 15:06:31
wow haha
2016-02-23 15:06:41
2016-02-23 15:14:59
fuck :(
2016-02-23 15:15:44
muritards at their finest
2016-02-23 15:18:17
mlg fucking shit, congratz fuck dreams of these guys
2016-02-23 15:18:56
RIP Mongolia no VISA :( They need to use MasterCard it will be OK.

Post edited 2016-02-23 15:21:45
2016-02-23 15:20:22
Not joking.

I work as an immigration lawyer in Shanghai. If these boys are going to Beijing I'd be more than happy to help them apply and secure them a visa to Poland [Eastern Europe is much easier than Western Europe or America]. Failing that, if push comes to shove we can apply for a Greek visa and just Schengen them into Poland, as long as the competition will buy them a flight to Greece and then onwards.

Serious offer. I liked these guys and I'd love to see them playing at a top tourney so hit me up with a PM.
2016-02-23 15:22:41

please contact that dude. It would be amazing if there are people in the scene that can help these dudes out. Everyone would appreciate it.

Thanks in advance if its all true what you say in the comment

Post edited 2016-02-23 15:28:17
2016-02-23 15:28:05
I sent a twitter message and replied on reddit. Let's wait and see.
2016-02-23 15:58:32
This guy is a manager of the mongolz pls contact him
skype: tuvshauskas email:[email protected]
2016-02-23 17:47:26
Alright I've spoken to him. I guess I'll let them apply for the Polish visa and if it doesn't come through I will help attain another EU visa.

Also they can stay with my friends in Beijing if they need.

Hope everything goes well :D
2016-02-23 17:56:23
heh good job bro
2016-02-24 04:47:01
gj dude
2016-02-24 07:34:41
why retarded countries like murica even allowed to host majors
2016-02-23 15:26:12
Hold a Major in Murica they said, it will be good they said.

Mongolz was in a group which could have secured them the fucking Major spot! Damn you! I wanted their stickers so bad.
2016-02-23 15:27:23
Nooo :(
2016-02-23 15:28:11
Descanse em paz
2016-02-23 15:29:22
lmao country of freedom
feel bad for mongolz though :(
2016-02-23 15:32:32
This is why USA is joke, lmao.
2016-02-23 15:37:07
imagine with trump, its just gonna get worst
2016-02-23 16:20:04
so difficult being an Asian who likes pro CS GO

why does this always happen to Asian teams?

QeeYou denied to Stockholm
TyLoo disqualified from reddit investigation
and now Mongolz denied visa

SO FUCKIN MAD, every major is the same old recycled teams
2016-02-23 15:40:15
2016-02-23 15:45:35
lmao how can this shit happens ?
2016-02-23 15:48:05
It rly sucks when such retarded bureaucracy comes our way to ruin event for one team :<, would think system would be better by year 2016 so this wouldn't happen so ez for esports teams as it seems common occurance to have visa issues rly -.-, it so stupid they somehow can't get visa...
2016-02-23 15:53:09
This is so retard thanks murica again!
2016-02-23 15:57:10
nooooooooooooo :(

Post edited 2016-02-23 16:04:34
2016-02-23 16:03:00
fill the spot with ENCE right NOW .
2016-02-23 16:04:26
2016-02-23 16:08:48
im feeling sad
they were bootcamp so long in my country, they spent almost time to tryhard and they got a reward : a ticket to Major.
My brother knew this guy, he said all of this guy is talent, friendly, and they really happy when they know they won in IEM, and got a slot to Major MLG.
now just imagine their feeling, i wanna cry...

2016-02-23 16:09:09
Fuck usa
2016-02-24 10:45:10
Lol didn't one team get refused a visa for Sweden? Where were y'all then? Oh right, my bad, you can only shit talk America around here. When Na'Vi and F3 had visa issues to Canada? Oh right. Some of you fuckheads are so stupid that it hurts. I legitimately don't understand how so many people can be so dumb.
2016-02-23 16:11:33
>USA country of freedom
>Not letting e-sporters let in to play a game.
2016-02-23 16:15:38
country of freedom for its citizens.

we don't let polish people in. they cant afford our hamburgers
2016-02-23 17:21:59
So go to Chicago or San Francisco and then tell me you don't let Poles come. Chicago is atm biggest "Polish" city in the world so yea
2016-02-24 00:41:29
2016-02-23 16:20:16
not being able to provide enough evidence that the players would return home after the tournament.LOL
2016-02-23 16:20:53
2016-02-23 16:20:54
Rip.....hope they get polish visas.
2016-02-23 16:33:15
Again murica before the brazillians teams didn't get the visa to play in the minor and now mongols can't play major qualifier, what a joke
2016-02-23 16:35:20
so fucking bummed right now
2016-02-23 16:37:41

Post edited 2016-02-23 16:42:18
2016-02-23 16:41:02
classic murica
2016-02-23 16:47:03
Who is can calling to OBAMA?
2016-02-23 17:05:35
renegades plz
2016-02-23 16:58:32
NA EleGiggle (Alientech lost too 1 month ago in MLG minor)
rip dreams
2016-02-23 17:03:14
Who is can calling to OBAMA?
2016-02-23 17:04:46
Success for the Asian scene would be nice. Best of luck!
2016-02-23 17:05:05
Fuck my piece of shit government how the fuck is playing in a week long lan not enough of a reason that they are just here temporarily? Are you fucking kidding me? They are coming for a TEMPORARY EVENT YOU FUCKING OIL BACKING PUPPET CLOWNS GIVE THEM VISAS GOD DAMNIT
2016-02-23 17:18:32
nooooo mongodssssssss
2016-02-23 17:19:44
USA the bestest they think 3rd worlders want to stay. If only the embassy was on hltv they will realized every country makes fun of us.... feelsbadman
2016-02-23 17:20:25
sad, missed opportunity because of political bullshit.
2016-02-23 17:25:05
last major in USA =]

2016-02-23 17:37:51
So smart to hold an international event in a country where it's almost impossible to get visa.
2016-02-23 17:41:45
2016-02-23 17:42:58
2016-02-23 17:43:45
2016-02-23 17:44:20
2016-02-23 17:44:55
2016-02-23 17:47:26
2016-02-23 17:48:06
stupid af
2016-02-23 17:57:06
2016-02-23 17:57:21
2016-02-23 17:58:46
no fun mlg again grand final on fnatic or envys? xD
2016-02-23 17:59:59
oh fuck off
2016-02-23 18:06:25
fuck! this machinegun guy is insane, really wanted to see them against top teams.
2016-02-23 18:09:28
K I l l m y s e l f
2016-02-23 18:10:15
and oh yeah, fuck usa retarded country, too hard to enter this shithole
2016-02-23 18:10:32
As they say "Fuck the Muricans"

I was waiting to watch these guys play against real teams :/
2016-02-23 18:47:12
they will still be at katowice right?
2016-02-23 18:50:28
Yes but a MAJOR is a MAJOR.

Qualifying for one = loads of money for them.
2016-02-23 18:52:20

Come on guys lets sign petition to let the into US
2016-02-23 18:47:40
If this will continue to be an issue for NA Majors, I guess we wont be seeing many major tournaments in NA.
2016-02-23 18:48:02
LOL it took so much time and efforts to organize the MInor, and now the winner is denied in visa. Murica ffs.
2016-02-23 18:58:52
This is why you shouldn't have an major in United States this was a fail before it even began... bring the major to Sweden for example and Mongolz would of had no problem gaining access but no they try something new and a few teams already got fucked over because of it retard valve.
2016-02-23 18:58:55
First and last major in NA hopefully
2016-02-23 19:06:17
They were gonna stay in AMERICA and hide away. Never let those Mongols come to AMERICA!


Post edited 2016-02-23 19:07:11
2016-02-23 19:06:22
WTF??? massive fuck up!
2016-02-23 19:13:29
2016-02-24 00:19:47
Fucking Obama.

Post edited 2016-02-23 19:26:01
2016-02-23 19:25:39
2016-02-24 11:18:35
shame amarerica.
2016-02-23 19:25:43
Cause Mongolia - notable USSR sattelite. They got Russian alphabet and other connections.
It is because sanctions.
2016-02-23 19:34:10
Fuck usa
2016-02-23 20:42:41
usa just a bunch of braindead buearocrats. this should make valve think about never ever doing big tournaments in usa, cuz they always manage to shatter dreams of some teams. just do the majors in germany and poland and everythings fine
2016-02-23 19:38:41
What team is taking Mongolz spot?
2016-02-23 19:40:55
Why in the fuck can't ESL a HUGE company get involved and defend these guys somehow, and confirm that they will return after?
2016-02-23 20:14:16
One more reason why there should not be any majors or international qualifiers in the us. get your shit straight murica
2016-02-23 20:41:30
Is EchoFox gonna replace them?
2016-02-23 21:11:30
2016-02-23 21:50:38
I'm not fan of them but... I'm really sad about that. I wanted to see them there.
2016-02-23 22:14:16
2016-02-23 22:53:46
This is why we shouldn't hold majors in America.
2016-02-23 23:31:00
dude, it would have nothing to do with America, any major anywhere would have this issue
2016-02-24 01:47:22
Who started the 1st World War?
Who started the 2nd World War?
Who threw nuclear bomb on
Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
Who kills approximately 20 million
aborigins in Australia?
Who kills more than 100 million red
indians in North America?
Who kills more than 50 million red
indians in South America?
Who took about 180 million Africans
as slaves and kills 77% of them?
When America takes 1 million lives in
Iraq for oil - Not terrorism
When Jews kick out Palestinians and
take their land - Not terrorism
When American drones kill entire
family and Afghanistan/Pakistan - Not
When Israel kills 10,000 lebanese
civilians due to two missing soldiers -
Not terrorism

No usa suck pls
2016-02-24 07:30:38
kek'd real hard
2016-02-24 08:23:36
its not USA civilians fault, but their greedy government, all other countries are guilty by watching this without make a shit about this!
Einstein quote say everything that i mean:


Post edited 2016-02-24 14:36:52
2016-02-24 14:36:17
american was pulled into WW2 by Japan on Pearl Harbor, learn your facts first bro
2016-02-25 02:15:33
who had some of the most evil rulers off all time? oh yeah EU, who came to Africa and raped the women and stole the men? Oh yeah, EU.
2016-02-25 02:21:41
and besides, EU, but you have shitty schools in EU so im not surprised
2016-02-25 02:22:55
american calling other countries education system bad
2016-02-25 09:23:02
Yeah katowice and cologne have had so many visa issues.
2016-02-25 00:13:58
there also hasnt been any Asian teams in those Majors
2016-02-25 02:25:31
Poland visa is 1000 times easier than us and usa suck dude they think evryone is terrorist but in real life USA IS THE TERRORIST
2016-02-25 13:08:02
We have had asian teams at big EU tourneys though. Starseries for example.
2016-02-26 01:30:35
rip, if mongolz qualified for the actual major then that would have kick-started asian cs
2016-02-23 23:39:26
Thanks Obama
2016-02-24 00:20:24
sad =\
2016-02-24 00:22:56
Seriously? Another case of refused visa to PROFESSIONAL CS:GO players? Cant Valve do something about it?
2016-02-24 01:43:23
Late to the party but gotta say:

GJ U.S. Customs, go die in burger fat
2016-02-24 01:47:18
Cheater Yankees. This decision unrespectful.
There is a saying in Turkiye.
Eater justice who shit beaten.
2016-02-24 01:59:37
so sad :(
2016-02-24 02:07:40
Sad, they played so well. Would definitely have a chance to qualify for the major.
2016-02-24 02:35:30
2016-02-24 03:44:58
ayy lmao not enough proof they would return after playing the tournament... wtf do you want USA, probably scared mongolians will take jobs from Americans, CS jobs that is.

polando will be much nicer 100%
2016-02-24 03:46:41
How did LG manage to get visas?
2016-02-24 05:03:23
Tbh its on them or their manager for not securing the visas before hand rather than try to do it at the last minute. Maybe their matches can be replaced by other matches for that day?
2016-02-24 05:05:34
Is SplyceGG replacing TheMongolz since Chiefs can't make it there as well?

2016-02-24 06:51:42
Well then CyberZen should go.
2016-02-24 07:04:53
CyberZen is also not able to attend
2016-02-24 08:10:43
Why? Visa problems? Or?
2016-02-24 08:19:36
It is said they're still on vacation so that no time for visa
2016-02-24 08:35:11
Lol. Are they officialy full time profesional player now? Kinda surprise how these young guys left college due to being gamer
2016-02-24 10:42:21
They are full time for pro and had left school for a long time like tb 26yrs old ,except of uki being young
2016-02-24 12:46:53
I know tb was left school for long time bcs i know him since 1.6. But i'm surprised that you told me zhoking, advent, and uki left school and didnt go to univ
2016-02-24 16:45:14
yes thats it.and Kobe did so:DDDD
2016-02-25 01:59:07
Go to the Hell Usa shitty nation ever.
2016-02-24 06:58:40
Sad. It just reminds you that cybersport is still a very small thing.

Post edited 2016-02-24 07:38:55
2016-02-24 07:38:24
2016-02-24 14:31:15
2016-02-24 15:04:00
Poor Mongolz
2016-02-25 02:26:22
2016-02-25 02:39:56
fucking usa
2016-02-25 12:38:09
Toxic Simple gets Visa but not Mongolz haha joke fuck off Usa Fat ScumS ..!..
2016-02-25 13:09:27

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