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Swiss format at ELEAGUE Major
Time: 2016-12-07 18:00
Game: Counter-Strike: Global Offensive

The Swiss format will be used at the ELEAGUE Major Main Qualifier and in the group stage at the ELEAGUE Major.

A tweet by the VP of ELEAGUE revealed that the Swiss format will be used in the ELEAGUE Major Main Qualifier taking place from December 15-18. ELEAGUE Major's group stage will also use the same format in the group stage, which will be the first time that it is used at a Major.

The Swiss-system was used in the previous Major Main Qualifier which took place in Katowice before ESL One Cologne. ELEAGUE Major Main Qualifier, featuring sixteen teams, will continue using the same format.


ELEAGUE Major will take place in January

At the ESL One Cologne Main Qualifier, all of the sixteen competing teams were in the same group and after the predetermined initial matches, teams with the same record who have not played against one another squared off. Three losses resulted in elimination and three wins guaranteed a spot at the Major.

Whether the ELEAGUE Major itself will feature a sixteen-team or two eight-team Swiss groups is not yet clear but we will update you when the information becomes available.

BenjaCS is a staff writer at HLTV.org and can be found on Twitter.

not good
still ez for fnatic disco doplan

Post edited 2016-12-07 18:00:36
2016-12-07 18:00:25
With that system ppl gonna
Neutralized each other

Post edited 2016-12-07 18:02:25
2016-12-07 18:00:44
Swiss is so bad :/ why would EL ever want to use it? GSL is fine.
2016-12-07 20:14:12
For qualifiers it is way better, for the major itself I am bit uncertain
2016-12-07 21:04:25
Much much better than groups of death like the last major where you had 4 teams who should make it to playoffs in one group.
2016-12-07 22:56:56
Yeah I guess I agree, it is an entertaining format as well
2016-12-08 00:46:06
new gqmbling sute: csgocasino.net
code for 5$: godmoe
2016-12-09 13:11:17
definitely,

this system is way better than any other shit we have had so far. No group of death, no easy groups as well, --> best teams overall should go trough. 1 or 2 lucky map wins wont get you anywhere.

2016-12-08 09:24:37
Its worse cause you get shit where all you have to do is win BO1s. Also it doesn't help group of death situations at all, in fact it worsens it as it benefits teams that get off the poor starts as they face the worst teams while the teams that get off to the best starts face the best teams. Thus you get situations like in ESL NY where NaVi faced every single playoff team and Liquid where they got to face G2 and Fnatic twice (or Optic who got to face Astralis, Fnatic, and G2, the 3 worst teams). You also get situations where Optic can get in instead of VP cause of 1 good map.

The problem with GSL is the seeding, the problem with Swiss is that it is just a flawed system.
2016-12-08 22:45:02
swiss format
best format
2016-12-07 18:00:55
You are so fast.. You were even the first in the first to 700k userid race.. You are a God, no one can beat you <3

You rekted gúnt with ease

Post edited 2016-12-07 18:01:52
2016-12-07 18:01:09
thanks my friend
2016-12-07 18:02:33
Bulgarian internet best internet
2016-12-07 18:05:27
yes
2016-12-07 18:11:28
Any userid over 100,000 is noob
2016-12-08 05:42:54
interesting
2016-12-07 18:01:11
Swiss format is the optimal format imo

ez for fnatic +1
2016-12-07 18:01:13
u da best my friend
2016-12-07 18:04:39
-1
2016-12-07 18:07:42
Swedan best an
2016-12-07 19:08:46
very nice! niilo really like swiss ice scream, so the format is good as well!

Post edited 2016-12-07 18:00:59
2016-12-07 18:00:25
Lol
2016-12-07 20:08:09
paska haisee ja banjot soi
2016-12-07 21:59:45
+1
2016-12-08 08:36:15
kyl
2016-12-08 19:09:10
I like this format!

Post edited 2016-12-07 18:00:34
2016-12-07 18:00:25
VERY NIKE!

Post edited 2016-12-07 18:00:34
2016-12-07 18:00:25
best format out there

Post edited 2016-12-07 18:01:19
2016-12-07 18:00:26
True

There will be no group of death this time
2016-12-07 20:40:05
6rd

Post edited 2016-12-07 18:00:33
2016-12-07 18:00:26
ez immortals

Post edited 2016-12-07 18:00:53
2016-12-07 18:00:28
gg
2016-12-07 18:00:28
NICE
2016-12-07 18:00:28
+1
2016-12-07 19:09:49
great!
2016-12-07 18:00:28
xaxa

Post edited 2016-12-07 18:00:37
2016-12-07 18:00:30
AFD 2017
2016-12-07 18:01:00
nice
2016-12-07 18:00:30
:O
2016-12-07 18:00:31
frist xd
2016-12-07 18:00:31
OMG
2016-12-07 18:00:32
wtf
2016-12-07 18:00:33
Nice1
2016-12-07 18:00:34
SOOOOO HARDDDD SYSTEMMMM
2016-12-07 18:00:41
k
2016-12-07 18:00:42
i like swiss
2016-12-07 18:00:44
Swiss format in major itself is weird to be honest
2016-12-07 18:00:46
Finally a good format at major !!
2016-12-07 18:00:51
I like this one. Less luck involved.
2016-12-07 18:01:05
Where will it be played? Katowice again???

Post edited 2016-12-07 18:01:25
2016-12-07 18:01:15
Atlanta
2016-12-07 18:11:44
lol
2016-12-07 18:34:33
I mean qualifiers :<
2016-12-07 19:14:50
Atlanta
2016-12-07 19:39:53
Both qualifiers and major in the same place? Damn son that's pretty BORING
2016-12-07 19:49:37
The qualifiers prob is at the EL studio and the major in the other venue.
2016-12-07 19:50:45
WOW
2016-12-07 18:01:27
@kr9ptonxD

are you autistic or something? refreshing the page all day long to be able to do the first post. ^^
2016-12-07 18:01:31
have you ever heard of desktop notifications
2016-12-07 18:02:16
yeah

that won't you make first

people are faster than those notifications, I mean when you're clicking on that they're already writing or submiting their posts
2016-12-07 18:40:03
dude, when I got the notification and clicked it there were no comments

if I had just posted 1 or something I would've probably been first
2016-12-07 18:41:08
Man, when u clicked notification people were already writing comms :)
2016-12-07 18:47:15
...

my comment was 3 seconds later than the first

I wrote NICE and I didn't even start to write instantly so yeah, dunno about that
2016-12-07 18:47:57
i dare you to get a 1st within the next day
2016-12-07 20:39:01
well check the newest article

got second but I commented at the same time as the first
2016-12-07 20:40:46
still aint a 1st :D and it has to not get deleted :D
2016-12-07 20:41:32
I've gotten 1st multiple times in the past, I really don't get the appeal to it

I'm not gonna hunt and try to get 1st on every article
2016-12-07 20:42:14
fair enough lol
2016-12-07 20:49:42
are you really that retarded to think someone would refresh hltv all they long to get 1st post? :))))
2016-12-07 20:13:54
first
hey midkits
2016-12-07 18:01:36
That sucks... Any format where someone goes straight from groups to semis is dumb.
2016-12-07 18:02:10
+1
2016-12-07 19:02:54
^This
2016-12-08 10:58:36
That's not how Swiss system works though, every team that gets through groups go to quarters
2016-12-08 15:37:07
Yeah, I realized it was different because there are 16 teams and not 8.
2016-12-09 00:58:58
lul
2016-12-07 18:03:05
Ez for penta ez for SOLEEEK
2016-12-07 18:03:18
ez g2 win next major
2016-12-07 18:03:30
+1
2016-12-07 18:21:06
not sure if good or bad
2016-12-07 18:03:44
ez for SK
2016-12-07 18:04:01
NICE
2016-12-07 18:04:08
massive news, finally valve are open to change in the way majors are ran
2016-12-07 18:05:06
rip Na'Vi - 1-3 (2-3) xD
2016-12-07 18:05:31
Nice format.
2016-12-07 18:05:31
n1
2016-12-07 18:08:12
i still dont understand this format =(
2016-12-07 18:08:24
It's like triple elimination bracket :D
2016-12-07 18:12:47
ez, you win 3 matches you are qualified, if you lose 3 matches you are eliminated

first round random
winners get 1-0
losers get 0-1

second round
all winners (1-0) from first round play against each other
all losers (0-1) from first round play against each other
after second round teams will get or 2-0 or 1-1 or 0-2


third round

all teams with 2-0 play against each other for qualification match
all 1-1 same (winners get 2-1, losers get 1-2)
all teams with 0-2 play for elimination match


fourth and fifth rounds same shit

who win 3 matches qualifies, who lose 3 matches get their asses out of the tournament


2016-12-07 18:24:06
That explanation gave me an orgasm
2016-12-07 19:37:17
+1 for easy explanation
2016-12-07 20:22:50
danke
2016-12-07 23:52:38
you play against teams with the same score as you. 3 wins means you move on to quarter finals. 3 losses means you are eliminated.
2016-12-07 23:49:02
Lol, why bad? Look back to last major group D . And format doesn't affect on result (Ez major for HLTV team)
2016-12-07 18:11:02
XD
2016-12-07 18:26:20
should be double elimination like dota ti
2016-12-07 18:11:46
+1. dota copied cod for it tho
2016-12-07 18:42:12
ez gambit xD 3-0
2016-12-07 18:13:19
i made this
2016-12-07 18:14:02
lol
2016-12-07 18:17:22

tnx Mr. Swiss
2016-12-07 18:46:18
Tnx Mr. Swiss
2016-12-07 20:11:05
nice!
good job ELEAGUE!

We smart, we loyal, we friendly, we are from BRAZIL!
Kreygasm
2016-12-07 18:14:48
ez for FaZe if they step up like in IEM Oakland in the groups ez semi for them :D
2016-12-07 18:14:56
this is retarded, what was wrong with the old gsl format? the only thing they had to fix was the seedings
2016-12-07 18:14:59
2x bo1 are random as fuck, in swiss format, u play at least 1 more matches, most likely 2-3 more bcuz even if u start bad by 0-2 or 1-2 ull get to play even teams to kind of fight yourself out of that hole while in gsl format ure fucked after like 0-1 start against NiP (for example) and being under pressure in another bo1 where u can already get eliminated.
2016-12-07 18:20:34
The only thing they had to change was BO3 for both elimination and decider matches(winners/opening if possible).
2016-12-07 18:25:58
+1
2016-12-07 21:46:31
Seeding is kind of unreliable when teams like liquid and CLG can be top 2 for a week then complete dogshit for the rest of the year lol. Swiss format seeds itself where rounds should get harder and harder as it moves along
2016-12-07 23:51:16
I was talking about the seedings in major
2016-12-10 07:28:29
Dont like this format when most teams are capeable of being major winners, you're essentially out in 3 bo1s instead of 1 bo1 and 1 bo3
2016-12-07 18:15:07
+1
2016-12-07 20:11:59
SeemsGood
2016-12-07 18:15:14
NIIIIIIIICEEEE
2016-12-07 18:17:10
If you start the tournament slowly you're out ^^ I guess it will be a great battle !
2016-12-07 18:18:39
nice, bt 4-8 places will get a random
chokes incoming
2016-12-07 18:20:21
Good for the qualifier
I don't like it for the major...too complicated imo, the regular format for the majors was good enough.
2016-12-07 18:20:22
Hmm, intresting.

This decrease from 101% to 99% sure Renegades will be at major!

Also Godsent have bigger chances now.

Rip CLG, Vega, Spirit, Tyloo, Mouz, HR and 2 more teams.
2016-12-07 18:20:34
Username does not check out
2016-12-07 20:12:50
Yep now gosent can ban ban nuke,cobble and overpass.Most games will either be dust 2 or cache for them
2016-12-07 20:41:27
Woooow
2016-12-07 18:20:54
This is a shame, because as good as it is for qualifiers, I don't like it as a major group stage. This means you can be out of the major after 2-3 BO1's
2016-12-07 18:22:43
better be out after 3 games than 2

Post edited 2016-12-07 18:45:11
2016-12-07 18:35:33
not good for british player
2016-12-07 18:23:35
Very good actually
g2's group stage curse might be lifed if double bo1 elim is gone
2016-12-07 18:24:20
noice
2016-12-07 18:24:44
Qualifier ok
But WHY THE MAJOR ?!!!
It is ok like it is
2016-12-07 18:25:13
it will prevent lower teams like mouz, FlipSid3 or Gambit from fluking their way into playoffs from 1st place in the group
2016-12-07 18:43:31
+1. they are great teams, but cmon...one group had teams ranked 9-12 at the time while another group had four top 5 ranked teams lol.
2016-12-07 23:52:35
groups will be less random, nice
2016-12-07 18:27:02
ez for c9 if auti stops using the g403 and goes back to the g pro
2016-12-07 18:27:58
Nt
2016-12-07 20:13:23
swiss format bestest format
2016-12-07 18:34:01
mouz might have a chance this way
2016-12-07 18:34:06
This is awesome. THANK YOU ELEAGUE
2016-12-07 18:36:08
I'm a simple swiss, i see "Swiss-format" i upvote.
2016-12-07 18:39:42
Go back to reddit.
2016-12-07 21:23:50
9gag
2016-12-07 21:58:10
Most amazing major inc!
2016-12-07 18:40:18
in swiss format there is no possible place for multiple tie breakers right?
2016-12-07 18:40:59
Nope,but still it is not that good.it favors teams with weak mappool.
2016-12-08 02:26:16
FINALLY G2 have a chance to get out of the group stage.
2016-12-07 18:43:00
+1
2016-12-07 18:44:45
Is not like they will even qualify lol
2016-12-07 19:21:13
Wow. Its like they want inconsistency in this game.
2016-12-07 18:51:51
and how is this more "inconsistent" than before?
2016-12-07 18:59:25
What? Swiss format is the more consist one.
2016-12-07 19:17:37
A win is a win. No matter how big. Imo taking rounds this seriously breaks the consistency.
2016-12-07 21:50:56
FeelsGoodMan
2016-12-07 18:57:32
yes, hopefully all the undeserving legends lose their status at the Major
2016-12-07 18:58:34
i like that system very much!
2016-12-07 19:08:43
god please no
2016-12-07 19:10:27
Time to increase your map pool BOISSS
2016-12-07 19:16:14
3 bo1 wins to major playoffs lul
I predict few top teams to bomb out in the group stage
2016-12-07 19:16:14
That's seriously great news, so much fun ahead.
2016-12-07 19:30:46
bo3 groups round robin > swiss > all other formats.
so step in the right direction.
2016-12-07 19:31:59
nice, its better than 2xbo1 losses in a major and ur out.
2016-12-07 19:36:43
it also lets teams stay for atleast 3 days before getting eliminated. lol
2016-12-08 18:54:27
I hope it wont be just one day for group stage
2016-12-07 19:39:50
Too bad
2016-12-07 21:24:45
eZ 4 Medkit
2016-12-07 19:44:46
ez for Mouz then
2016-12-07 19:46:31
ez for SK and god FOX
2016-12-07 19:49:28
We dont have a scene but we have a format
Ez 4 swiss
2016-12-07 19:51:03
BBBBut... But Maniac men)))))))))))
2016-12-07 21:25:16
Good improvement
2016-12-07 19:51:34
too many best of ones.
2016-12-07 19:59:22
THANK MR ELEAGUE
2016-12-07 20:06:09
Nice, now teams actually have to be good instead of anti stratting the other 3 teams in your group.
2016-12-07 20:26:06
This.
Even though teams won't play a BO3, it's clearly better, you can't only prepare for 3 known teams and have huge success like F3 did it on the past.
Now you have to be ready or at least adapt quickly to face any team in lots of different maps.
2016-12-08 17:14:03
First, lul
2016-12-07 20:46:05
Best format. Nice one Eleague
2016-12-07 20:58:33
This is clearly the best format.
People defending the GSL thing love the game less than people (like us) praising the Swiss format.

In GSL it's always the same 4 teams from the group meeting BS.

Strongest team will likely win in 2 BO1's (sometimes an upset will happen), the shittiest team will go out in 2 BO1's and the 2 "average" will play each other in the BO3 decider.
It's predictable as fuck.

That Swiss format is great because you don't know, until the draw is made (not even after every game of a round is played) what are gonna be the match ups.
This is just fun and way more fair (that Astralis with one stand in and then 2 in the quarters/Dignitrash/Gambit/OpTic was boring as fuck when you had a G2/SK/Fnatic/FaZe group, ok you could fix the seedings but a team wouldn't ever deserve to get access to the next major just because that team won 2 BO1s and became a "Legend" because making top 8 of a Major.)

The next thing to fix the Majors is putting an end to the "the 8 teams making at least the quarters" are qualified for the next Major.
Only the top 4 should be qualified directly for the next Major.
2016-12-07 21:07:52
+3.

At the time of the Astralis group, they had teams 9 - 12 HLTV ranked while the death group had four of the top 5. Wasn't very fun to watch.

As much as I love watching my favorite teams become legends, top 4 makes sense due to the unstable nature of CSGO rosters and results. Essentially allows 12 teams to qualify instead of 8. Additionally the Swiss format eliminates the stupid group seeding where previous legends are no.1/2 seed for that group even though they are dog shit (CLG anyone?)
2016-12-08 18:52:22
Thanks for talking about CLG.
Makes me realize my mistake : the NA team in the Astrali/Dignitas/Gambit group was CLG not OpTic.

OpTic was on (my opinion) the second weakest group with NiP, NaVi and F3. (to me the VP/Liquid/Mouz/NV is clearly stronger than the NiP/NaVi/OpTic/F3).

So yeah that Denmark/Gambit/CLG was even weaker (as OpTic was obviously at the time already better than CLG).


I think with 8 teams becoming legend it's not making a strong enough rotation in teams playing Majors.
Not that i want to see some "good" teams not playing the Major but to me getting out of groups is clearly not enough to get a seat into a Major 4 to 6 months later.
These "good" teams qualifying to Major and getting to top 8 because (it has happened quite a few times) they were mostly in an easy group should have to play the qualifier.

Some big names (if we go from 8 to 4 Legends) might not qualify but we might get some new names, which imo wouldn't decrease the entertainment of the Major(TyLoo for example if 12 spots and not 8 are at play in the qualifier).
2016-12-08 19:00:36
Ez For HR <3
2016-12-07 21:27:33
gay
2016-12-07 21:44:26
i like a lot the swiss format for the qualies but not for the main event. lets see how it goes
2016-12-07 21:45:26
Might be interesting.
2016-12-07 22:26:02
I think NIP, dignitas, Optic, EnVyUs, mousesports, FaZe, G2 and C9 will be in the Major. But it's ridiculous that FLIPSIDE is in and teams like Godsent, Immortals or CLG can be out.
2016-12-07 22:31:19
what do you mean?
godsent, immortals and clg are at the same level of flipside
2016-12-07 23:16:21
that's the problem with legend status. I think they should change it to top 4 instead of top 8 for legends.
2016-12-07 23:55:35
top6 is fair enuf
2016-12-08 00:20:37
how the hell do you do top 6 lol
2016-12-08 06:34:33
RawZaus brain doesnt work like ours do

Dont go too harsh on him
2016-12-08 08:34:44
HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH u r so funny man.................

not.
2016-12-08 14:15:20
wats wrong wit it?

top 3 each groups. 8 is too much 6 is enuff
2016-12-08 14:14:32
More Best of Ones.... fuck yeah D:
2016-12-08 00:12:57
I like this for the qualifier, but like many others I think it is odd to have it in the Major itself.

My question is how the seeding for the playoffs work. With groups you have one team in first place and one team in second place, making it easy to square teams of for the playoffs. In the swiss format it seems to me that it is likely we will get many teams with the same score, and it will be hard to decide which of those teams will be getting what seed for the playoffs. I do not like it when round difference decide anything. That way teams that play good, close, entertaining matches, risk getting punished.
2016-12-08 07:01:17
shitty swiss format is shit. only bo1s. so shit teams like FaZe can get somewhere.

bring back bo3 group games. fuck bo1s or 2xbo1s.
2016-12-08 07:40:09
I prefer this system over GSL. However, I hope for Bo3s and not Bo1s.
2016-12-08 09:41:09
So stupid and boring, boooo
2016-12-08 15:45:12
2 8-teams groups KreyGasm
2016-12-13 12:43:53
when you thought that 2017 will be better year for cs than 2016 ..... then you see this
2016-12-19 17:48:38

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