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peacemaker leaves OpTic
By: MIRAA
Time: 2017-03-17 01:41
Game: Counter-Strike: Global Offensive

OpTic Gaming have decided against keeping Luis "peacemaker" Tadeu as coach following his trial period.

Luis "peacemaker" Tadeu joined OpTic on a trial basis at the start of February as the team looked to bounce back from the departure of ingame leader Peter "stanislaw" Jarguz to Liquid.

OpTic cut a frustrating figure at the two events they attended with the Brazilian on board, finishing 9th-12th at DreamHack Las Vegas and 11th-12th at the IEM World Championship.


peacemaker's OpTic trial was unsuccessful 

In the latest episode of OpTic's "Vision" documentary series, Óscar "mixwell" Cañellas stated that peacemaker's approach did not match the team's style, adding that the Brazilian was "too emotional sometimes".

In a TwitLonger post, peacemaker admitted that the loss of stanislaw and the rumours surrounding mixwell and Will "RUSH" Wierzba took their toll on the team and lamented that he was not given enough time to carry out his vision for the squad.

"After losing stanislaw, the team lost leadership and guidance, and internal problems started to happen with the defeats coming in," Tadeu wrote.

"We tried to handle all this the best we could, but with all the rumours about mixwell/RUSH leaving to Liquid I felt the team completely lost motivation to continue working, so we barely practiced after Katowice.

"I have a very particular way of coaching my teams, and I may not be the best when it comes to dealing with a lot of problems, but I have my own system, which worked very well with my previous team but unfortunately did not work with OpTic. 

"I feel I did not have enough time to show the guys what I am capable of, but in their eyes my coaching style does not match what they are looking for. This is completely acceptable and it was the main reason behind the trial period.

"I am heading back to Brazil to spend some time with my family. After that, I will be looking to continue my coaching career somewhere else, and hopefully that will happen in the near future."

OpTic have yet to comment on the situation of Spencer "Hiko" Martin, who joined the team as a stand-in at the same time as peacemaker. It has been rumoured that OpTic will not be retaining his services, but he played for the team in Thursday's 0-2 defeat against CLG in the North American SL i-League StarSeries Season 3 qualifier.

already?

Post edited 2017-03-17 01:41:32
2017-03-17 01:41:15
g1
2017-03-17 01:41:38
Overrated coach
2017-03-17 01:41:58
Not even fucking, peacemaker it's a very good coach, but coaches are underrated cause of that stupid update that they can only speak 4 times in a game, makes no sense.
2017-03-17 01:49:20
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKK WTF?
2017-03-17 02:08:56
This peacemaker is a joke, joining and leaving like he want.
2017-03-17 10:24:52
OpTic Gaming have decided against keeping Luis "peacemaker" Tadeu as coach following his trial period

lul
2017-03-17 10:28:40
Read the post first, buddy.
2017-03-17 10:44:08
Well, the same joke that made liquid a major legend in esl one LUL
2017-03-17 21:58:19
nice

Post edited 2017-03-17 01:41:21
2017-03-17 01:41:15
peacemaker is overrated af this is the least of optics problems
2017-03-17 01:45:25
+1, hes a good coach, but he dont make miracles
2017-03-17 02:44:58
yep, optic is dead.
2017-03-17 02:48:10
Naw. We're gonna pick up Stewie2k and run this league. GG.
2017-03-17 02:51:23
Stewie2K doesn't need to leave C9. C9 has a strong brand, interesting for business, he will consider to leaving just in case of another rich team, such as Liquid (IDK if Liquid is richer than c9 tough).
Sorry, I want to be wrong, but Optic is dead and they will loss ome more player (RUSH or Mixwell)
2017-03-17 17:59:48
no1 can save NA scene m8
2017-03-17 07:09:10
It's alright guys, GREENWALL. (aka no one goes past tryouts)

Post edited 2017-03-17 01:41:49
2017-03-17 01:41:17
if rush and mixwell go to liquid then fuck the greenwall, im going back to rooting for liquid
2017-03-17 02:42:30
Eliige mixwell RUSH stanislaw and JDM, top1 NA right ?
2017-03-17 10:16:35
JDM? Liquid wants to move away from that .91 lan rating overrated awp bot who is useless with rifles (the reason why they are wanting mixwell in the first place), it was suppose to be +rush +mixwell -pimp -JDM according to the sources.

Post edited 2017-03-17 10:26:23
2017-03-17 10:25:17
so Nitr0 will remain ?
2017-03-17 10:34:27
Yes, nitr0 was suppose to stay and it was supposed to be -JDM -pimp for +mixwell +Rush. It was also said that if this deal happens and pimp is removed he will go back to EU. nitr0 has been shit lately but he was a star NA player for a long time and he might be hard to move on from because it seems he is a package deal with elige. Plus team liquid really loves that elige/nitr0 combo (especially when it works).

I assume team liquid wants to give nitr0 a chance with a decent roster and if he still can't step it up afterwards, then they might consider replacing him (which shouldn't be that hard). There's a good chance he might just be slumping or not motivated because the roster he was playing with had no real hope of being good. I think the main objective for liquid was to secure a decent IGL (stanislaw) and hybrid awper (mixwell) first because riflers in NA are dime-a-dozen compared to those roles (they can even import one from EU like pimp) and as long as those roles are secure, they can probably buy out another star/rising player to replace nitr0 in the case that nitr0 has really fallen.

Post edited 2017-03-17 11:15:30
2017-03-17 11:08:15
top 1 NA?? lul
If the Brazilian teams leave the NA, maybe they will reach the top1, and still it will be difficult to pass c9
2017-03-17 14:26:49
By NA I meant american or canadian, brazil is SA so it's not included
2017-03-17 14:27:52
understood. I've dealt with organizations, not players.
2017-03-17 14:38:22
well if we talk about organizations here SK is German right ?
2017-03-17 14:40:47
Yes. In a way, but they compete in NA
2017-03-17 15:01:50
no
2017-03-17 01:41:17
expected

Post edited 2017-03-17 01:41:26
2017-03-17 01:41:17
n1
2017-03-17 01:41:17
hmm a hope you will find your team

Post edited 2017-03-17 01:41:42
2017-03-17 01:41:18
lol gg greenwall
2017-03-17 01:41:20
expected
2017-03-17 01:41:23
expected

Post edited 2017-03-17 01:41:33
2017-03-17 01:41:23
dead team
2017-03-17 01:41:25
again
2017-03-17 01:41:33
can't stay with a team
2017-03-17 01:41:33
lol
2017-03-17 01:41:36
After some bad results, it's expected!

We smart, we loyal, we friendly, we are from BRAZIL!
Kreygasm
2017-03-17 01:41:40
kind of the issue with peacemaker when hes raging he isn't very friendly which is why he gets kicked from every team
2017-03-17 02:39:16
sad if its the truth!
2017-03-17 02:47:41
well expected tho
2017-03-17 01:41:52
rip optic
2017-03-17 01:41:59
+1
2017-03-17 14:28:24
lmao
2017-03-17 01:42:00
optic will split up inc
2017-03-17 01:42:06
They are not playing, the last match against clg was a confirmation that they need a change.
2017-03-17 01:42:07
Watch as the green wall crumbles.
2017-03-17 01:42:24
Good bb low skill more lose CLG pls faggouts
2017-03-17 01:42:44
finally luck doesnt predict his coaching skills.
2017-03-17 01:42:55
peacemaker LUL
2017-03-17 01:43:06
So Optic is dead then?
2017-03-17 01:43:24
typical fucking peacemaker

like 5 teams in 6 months GG
2017-03-17 01:43:48
Kinda expected,but peacemaker is surely not the problem in OG right now.
2017-03-17 01:44:50
rip
2017-03-17 01:45:12
yeah optic gaming lost my respect, if they are dropping peacemaker before hiko... for real.. how long is this dude gonna have a career.
2017-03-17 01:45:16
They never signed Hiko though. It has been stated many times that Hiko is just standing in and that they are looking for a 5th.
2017-03-17 01:50:46
ok well i never liked hiko... so im sick of seeing him get pro play time
2017-03-17 04:39:00
Hiko should be removed from the active roaster and added as coach.

We all know he can't play anymore but could be helpful as a coach with his exp.
2017-03-17 13:33:02
This is really sad but true anyway, he was a beast in 2016 and now became shit, why's that?
2017-03-17 16:03:26
CS has a big skill curve to it... if you let your guard down you get passed up.
2017-03-17 18:34:20
OpTic.OCEAN. He's a savant and has dank-dangles that can be seen on the hockey rink.

In seriousness, OpTic have always had their struggles on CT sides and with Stanislaw gone it's a perfect time to experiment with roles (move Hiko to the more defensive spots, e.g., drop on cbble), have RUSH become more of a focal point, and integrate *many* more gimmicks into their playbook.

This team still has enough talent, with most being very versatile*, that it should almost be a science experiment.

Post edited 2017-03-17 01:47:26
2017-03-17 01:46:13
The fact that Liquid is after there players is hurting them the most imo. I don't even know how they can focus.
2017-03-17 06:30:56
Hopping to see SK.peacemaker!
2017-03-17 01:50:11
so that he can get kicked from that team too?
2017-03-17 02:40:07
No, cause it his style, I can guarantee this for you
2017-03-17 03:17:19
When people make mistakes he gets emotional and becomes toxic kinda like s1mple
2017-03-17 12:38:18
expected
2017-03-17 01:50:21
Sk Peace maybe??????
2017-03-17 01:52:58
+1
2017-03-17 01:58:51
used to like him, but now i kinda hope people stop signing him...he seriously joins a new team after 2 months
2017-03-17 01:53:37
Fuck peacemaker

I'm sure any of us could do it better, or as well as this BR poser

"Go squeaky! No not YOU rush, Stanislaw go behind, :-[=_ NO NOoooaol"

Fuck I would freak out with a drug addict BR behind me
2017-03-17 02:01:12
Well, coaching doesnt work like that no more. They can only communicate with team during timeouts...
2017-03-17 02:11:05
Then peaceboy gotta go
2017-03-17 02:32:46
depends on the event as to how much the coach can talk, but they are not allowed to be in game as a spectator anymore, at least that's how I understood it
2017-03-17 18:19:53
optic should disband and split or pick up the good clg players.

liquid
- elige
- stan
- n1tro
- mixwell
- rush

c9
- stew
- auti
- ska
- shroud
- naf

CLG/Optic
- jdm
- rickeh
- cutler/hiko
- n0thing
- ethan/pimp

who knows where pimp goes. maybe maiks team? assuming he goes back to EU

Post edited 2017-03-17 02:07:10
2017-03-17 02:04:21
jdm and rickeh in same team? 2 main awpers? lol?
2017-03-17 06:40:04
rickeh can rifle just as well as he can awp. he's already second awp for clg and they have bot koosta.
2017-03-17 06:45:50
Rickeh is a decent hybrid awper/rifler which makes JDM's role unneeded. They already have a good awper who CAN rifle in rickeh, why restrict him to rifles to bring in a shitty .91 lan rating overrated awper JDM who is going to make you play 4 vs 5 on rounds he doesn't have awp? Swap out JDM for any decent rifler in NA (even freakazoid) and the team will be better, JDM has no place in any half decent team tbh, a bad lan rating awper who can't rifle is just a relic of the past, they have no place in a good team aspiring to be tier 1.

And he also has no place in a team like CLG who is growing players with potential, JDM is a 27 year old awper who has already reached his potential with no more room for growth and still can't manage to be half average with an rifle after all these yrs and prefers to use the mp7 just to die without doing anything. We know what he is at this point and we see that he's a liability on a higher tier team that has other stars and can't throw rounds and their own buys just to try to make sure JDM has an awp every round. Rather just keep koosta who shows flashes of potential and has been the bright spot of the CLG roster even in all its terribleness, and he's also grown and shown to be decent at rifle and growing confident again with the awp.

JDM should just do the only thing he can do like in CLG and go to a team like splyce/echofox who just wants publicity and a few wins or upsets here and there because JDM is useless on any team unless they want to build around him and the only teams willing to build around a .91 lan rating awper who is shit unless the team revolves completely around him (like CLG) is a t3 team.

Post edited 2017-03-17 10:45:13
2017-03-17 10:33:55
I'm also thinking contractually, jdm will have to be on a team. I love that freakazoid idea though. They need a pure entry with that line up. pimp/ethan can or n0thing can be second entry with hiko/cutler lurk.
2017-03-17 11:59:23
unlike jdm, rickeh can rifle competently
2017-03-17 06:49:08
So Tarik gets the boot? Probably back to Turkey and join Space Soldiers lel
2017-03-17 14:52:21
He's the most overrated NA pro. He can join a lesser team. Maybe go back to CLG.
2017-03-17 21:42:26
Gotta disagree on that one. He's good when he tries... mostly it feels like he's having too much fun, winning or losing. He's not professional enough in my opinion. He's just like Shroud at the moment, enjoying the twitch attention.
2017-03-17 21:46:28
No, he never did anything good on the international scene either. dude is always bombing out. at least shroud showed his potential outside of streaming.
2017-03-18 19:43:06
Liquid
Definitely worth a shot, a few possible personality clashes but it seems to be the lineup that Stan wants so I'm sure it could work

C9
-shroud +daps and you have a solid team for sure. I would really like to see Stew drop the role of IGL making daps a strong asset to the team, -shroud is kind of a given at this point honestly.

CLG/Optic
Hiko's, what some would call his ego would lead him to most likely not want to be on such a poor team, especially with Nothing and possibly Shroud if he was to be taken off C9. In my opinion Nothing + Shroud is a better get than just Hiko however I just don't think this team would work in general. Jdm + rickeh makes zero sense, pimp probably wouldn't stay in America especially without Hiko, nothing and shroud would probably hold out on joining a team like how Hiko and Ska stayed out of the scene for a good few months, and Ethan isn't good enough to be on a team like this just yet. The problems with it just don't add up to a do able situation imo.

-pita +pimp could definitely be good for maikelele' team but we would have to see.

Changes of this magnitude have never happened in North America and especially with new contracts, buyouts, the amount of money the players are getting by not even practicing and just streaming just makes it seem impossible at this point.
2017-03-17 15:35:36
daps is a bot. that's why you put in NAF who is starting to IGL. not the best igl, but can take weight off stew's shoulders. daps deserves to be on a tier 3 NA team or a coach. -shroud is not a given since he brings in so much stream money. all my scenarios were hypothetical.

how does jdm and rickeh make no sense yet koosta and rickeh does? Where is your logic?
2017-03-17 21:44:31
for starters daps is not a bot and could easily IGL in that situation

assuming all of these things would take place it would imply that the orgs would get over stream $$$ and be willing to do something like -shroud

I never said koosta and rickeh makes sense lmfao

2017-03-18 00:54:08
Daps is a bot. get over it. dude can't point and click.

and duhh, these are all hypotheticals. how have you not understood that? if we were all org bosses and talking about streaming, shroud wouldn't have a chance to go anywhere.

ok... so you are saying rickeh and koosta don't make sense? I'm just saying that if you think one combo makes sense, then there isn't reason to think the other one wouldn't besides the fact koosta isn't as good as jdm with the awp.
2017-03-18 19:45:19
NA CS is only gonna be worse over the next couple months/years...
No offence to NA players!
2017-03-17 02:05:09
GO TO SK
2017-03-17 02:08:12
Obviously... BR coaches will never work with NA players, the styles are toooo different, Brazilians (latins in general) are way emotive/explosive, while NA is closer tho the EU style (cold blood, more quiet).
2017-03-17 02:12:22
I agree +1
2017-03-17 02:19:49
i don't trust this guy... he can't stay in the same team for more than a few months... there's something wrong with him, i can fell it
2017-03-17 02:13:43
toxic af and nobody wants to keep him on the team after they witness the peacemaker rage themselves
2017-03-17 02:42:13
He tells them what they need to hear
2017-03-17 03:19:06
Watched the Optic match last night and saw at the very last round peacemaker tried to pause the match, giving them the tactical time out he wanted, but it looked like the players didnt want it and refused and just let it play on. peacemaker seem pissed.
2017-03-17 02:16:27
It's just Hiko being stubborn and delusional thinking he will be the next FalleN (igl & coach that is)
2017-03-17 02:23:35
I only read about this guy when he leave next murica team
2017-03-17 02:26:24
horrible coach, jumps from team to team,
overrated just like SK.

2017-03-17 02:41:21
well that was fast
2017-03-17 02:53:34
if every team so far hates him as a coach, doesn't that mean hes just a shit coach?

TEMPO STORM, LIQUID, NRG, OPTIC

Post edited 2017-03-17 02:57:25
2017-03-17 02:56:30
He made great stuff for TS and Liquid, but I guess the change on the coaching rules just fuck up the way he did stuff. Same with Starix and Threat, than were making good progress on their teams until Valve changed everything.
2017-03-17 03:19:26
TS got better after he left, and liquid got worse and sacked him after s1mple left. Peacemaker was just at the right place at the right time to ride the wave of that powerhouse team liquid roster (still think that roster would have been a force to reckon with if s1mple stayed, especially with the rising of elige). At least he got a few jobs off it but when you get jobs based on reputation and you can't bring results and people realize you were overrated, it's hard to stay on a team for long.
2017-03-17 10:58:34
This guy is toxic

/closed
2017-03-17 03:00:12
poor Hiko, if he gets cut and hes jst left out streaming...
2017-03-17 03:01:07
After what he did in ttain omg lol
2017-03-17 03:10:50
I swear, optic is falling to shit after stanislaw left
2017-03-17 03:30:20
Doubt it has anything to do with his personality. Coaches, and him in peticular, are having a hard time finding their role within teams atm. Maybe it's an issue that he will never fix, but there is no doubt about his potential. Hopefully he'll be able to surprise us like he did with liquid once more, because I definitely feel, that he was the main reason as to why liquid had the success they had

Post edited 2017-03-17 03:36:40
2017-03-17 03:35:28
The vision clip that I saw made it seem entirely about his personality
2017-03-17 15:22:40
Rekt hiko
2017-03-17 03:37:48
Fallen plz, get him to join SK.
2017-03-17 03:59:23
SK_PEACEMAKER COnfirmed
2017-03-17 05:28:36
How many teams did this guy leave already?

Post edited 2017-03-17 06:11:38
2017-03-17 06:11:19
0 he always gets kicked
2017-03-17 09:57:51
Lost my respects, kicking one of the best coaches in the world, lets hope that peacemaker finds another team to save
2017-03-17 06:52:59
best coach in the world that cant stay on the team longer than 2 weeks
2017-03-17 09:12:20
Seems like people dont remember how he got Liquid from being absolute dogshit to a major final in 2 months
2017-03-17 12:34:19
Joke?
2017-03-17 15:21:52
Why does it seem like a joke?
2017-03-22 13:39:43
s1mple?
2017-03-17 18:12:32
TIL s1mple was in-game leading in Cologne
2017-03-22 13:40:56
til every kill s1mple made was because of peacmakers calls
2017-03-22 13:45:37
It's not like s1mple was bad, but very overrated, without peacemaker they would've not made it out of the groups
2017-03-27 10:04:18
lol again this bench whore.

how NA org give him so many opportunities?

NA CS😂
2017-03-17 07:48:45
Kinda sad to see how low they've fallen since the EL Trophy.
2017-03-17 08:03:03
Peacemaker so valuable :X
2017-03-17 09:24:17
He got kicked every time org realize that he is overrated and can't coach properly.
2017-03-17 09:47:51
leavemaker xD
2017-03-17 10:26:03
we smart we loyal we brazil or how does that stupid phrase go lmao
2017-03-17 10:37:58
+1 im fu**** tired of this phrase mate:S
2017-03-17 12:13:16
i detest phrases with the word: "monkey". even more common than this stupid brazilian phrase
2017-03-17 13:07:19
Overrated and still getting jobs off the power of s1mple's carry and the rest of that team liquid roster riding that confidence and stepping up at the major.
2017-03-17 10:51:59
leave all team lel
2017-03-17 11:45:27
most overrated guy in the scene, just too casual
2017-03-17 11:50:03
That was fast.
2017-03-17 12:52:07
Peacemaker back to liquid lul
2017-03-17 13:10:39
This should be his last go around in the NA scene for a while I would like to think
2017-03-17 13:15:22
SK|Peacemaker pls
2017-03-17 13:28:40
I'm pretty sure none of the OpTic players will ever want to play with stan ever again after what stan did to them.
2017-03-17 13:48:32
leavemaker LUL
2017-03-17 14:02:47
an the longest staying coach award of 2016/2017 goes to...


Kappa
2017-03-17 15:29:07
i like him why optic whyyy
2017-03-17 15:38:59
optic is a goner
2017-03-17 16:04:38
Peacemaker to NiP, niptop1
2017-03-17 16:05:49
optics problem. peacemaker was good.
2017-03-17 16:06:30
OpTic definition of NA cs. was top 5 team, stan left cuz $$$, team got shitty motivation and kicked great coach
2017-03-17 17:09:54
Peace is shit...NA teams are shit...shit by shit...the results are always the same...
2017-03-17 17:11:29
Hiko and Peacemaker to navi confirmed
2017-03-17 17:56:55
OpTic starix CONFIRMED
2017-03-17 20:20:24
SK.peacemaker
2017-03-17 22:09:41
thanks name is amazing hahahahaha
2017-03-18 15:33:36
i never talked with peacemaker, but he knows alot about cutting mistakes misplays, so I think its a bad move, but probably players didnt want or feel they needed a coach. his service would fit better somewhere else
2017-03-18 16:24:18
loool
2017-03-19 23:01:48

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