Portugal and B & H will play again
By: Nix0n
Time: 2009-01-26 23:52
Game: Counter-Strike 1.6
The last match in the qualification to ClanBase NationsCup XII was played on Sunday, seeing Bosnia and Herzegovina defeating Portugal 2:0. Due to a flashbug, a third map will now be needed to determine the winner.

Bosnia and Herzegovina won the match against Portugal, where overtime was needed to determine the winner on inferno. Due to Bosnia and Herzegovina had used a bugflash, two rounds was withdrawn and given to Portugal, meaning inferno was won 19:17 by Portugal.

ClanBase rules states:

"Any sort of map bug exploiting is strictly forbidden and will result in +-2 rounds (2 rounds withdrawn from the abusing team and given to the abused team).

Abusing flashbang and/or HE grenade bugs is not allowed and it will always result in punishment."


Portugal and Bosnia and Herzegovina will now play a third and all deciding map to determine, which of the two, will advance to the ClanBase NationsCup XII group stage.

The winner will drop into group D, with Russia, Denmark, Ukraine, Switzerland and Slovakia. The match is to be played very soon, possibly Tuesday.
IMHO, even though it is probably biased, I think they made the right decision. They just followed the rules.
2009-01-26 23:57:32
oh well, another game :)
nixon, shouldnt it be "a third map will be needed to determine the winner." instead of the 'not'?

Post edited 2009-01-27 00:06:03
2009-01-26 23:57:53
by: nxu
#3
I was thinking the same, the 'not' shouldn't be there :)
2009-01-27 00:17:44
by: Nix0n - HLTV.org
#4
Right on.
2009-01-27 00:20:16
Refund, please.
2009-01-27 23:11:08
by: Nix0n - HLTV.org
#110
Huh?
2009-01-27 23:12:57
The result was canceled - bets must be refunded.
2009-01-28 18:51:22
haha nice :D
2009-01-27 00:50:03
PT will loose again

2009-01-27 01:08:25
by: thug*
#8
yes of course, BiH ftw :D
2009-01-27 01:14:51
rofl..wtf was admin doing on match then ? After one week they decide this..funny

Post edited 2009-01-27 01:52:15
2009-01-27 01:51:56
The match was played on Sunday...
2009-01-27 01:55:32
Evidentially i lose feeling for time ^^
2009-01-27 01:57:33
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#46
The protests, as far as I know, are processed after and not during the matches ;)
2009-01-27 15:20:06
That's true, but they reported bug flash like 10 hours after the match. It's bug flash, it should have been reported right after the match, so if proven guilty, teams could have played 3rd map straight away.
2009-01-27 15:44:11
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#55
I do not think that the protests are solved that quickly, honestly ::)
2009-01-27 15:47:58
Some more complicated are not, and they shouldn't be, but flashbug should be reported straight after the map has ended, and it takes like 3 mins to check demo, and to see if it was bug or not. It's as simple as that.
2009-01-27 15:55:42
on lan the tings would have been diferent, the B & H have the beter connection and in inferno was a tight match, in dust2 or inferno portugal have good chances.
2009-01-27 03:10:54
Yes you are sure, on LAN would have been different, Portugal would lose even harder since they suck.

There is no country in the world where Portugal would have better ping, so no point in whining about ping. Ping was pretty fair, maybe 5-8 difference in average.
2009-01-27 12:19:31
What the #!?* ?

Medium Ping for BiH: 40/50
Medium Ping for Portugal: 60/70/80

So, the ping is fair? 2 guys with 80 ping.
2009-01-27 21:13:49
hahahah how bad is that connection :D fuckin excuses, they also have bad connections indeed...
2009-01-27 03:15:50
yes , Portugal don't know how to whine ^^ , so they have to exuse about a FB -.- ' and I never heard about a FB in banana, inferno ?,
Go BIH <3
2009-01-27 13:05:49
by: sqi
#48
yes the flash was made up just so portugal would have another shot. dont be stupid! rules are rules. they made a fb they get a penalty. simple as that.
2009-01-27 15:25:15
Yes, but noone complains about flashbug if they win round, and + the don't lose any players in that round. That's silly, and lame. So, you guys are whiners, and that's it.
2009-01-27 15:54:44
by: sqi
#64
You make me laugh. ITS RULES! They did a flashbug they get penalty and thats the bottom line.
2009-01-27 16:35:25
it's rules dude. it's not portugal whining. it's RULES. R-U-L-E-S! and do you really think portugal is such a whining chicken team because they found a flashbug thats not allowed and that would result in giving them a second chance? Any CS team in the world would do the same thing.
2009-01-27 16:56:12
Any CS team in the world would do the same thing.

that's the thing i hate about CS.. when somebody looses a match and then it's all protests and trying to win not by playing, but this :S ... because of some flashbug Portugal won a match... it been like a 4 second bug not a whole match handicap but they still won because of that...
Not like i care about the match but kinda make me angry that rules are so stupid mostly :)
2009-01-27 17:43:29
by: sqi
#80
Breaking the rules by bosnia didnt get the match for portugal. 2 Rounds were substract to bosnia and added to portugal. If bosnia had won 16-10, it would be 14-12 so bosnia win anyway.
2009-01-27 18:44:48
I know but it did :] .. that map i meant
It was a tie.. and after the match it was a win for portugal
So it realy did win them the map
2009-01-27 20:22:44
Sure.. is like a man with a gun running on the streets... and he makes a shot if hits somebody.. he will be arrest, if he doesn't hit anyone.. he can go home like nothing had happen... Rules are rules... law is law.. flash bug is forbidden.

Post edited 2009-01-27 17:49:09
2009-01-27 17:44:29
Stop whining dude :D
2009-01-27 21:49:46
The FB wasn't in banana, sorry. If you didn't know about it it's a same, there are people that don't know about the flashbug in nuke.
2009-01-27 15:48:51
wow !
2009-01-27 07:02:29
last year portugal was disqualified agains cech republic due to a duckjump, this year the bosnia team do fb and they have right to play another map...
2009-01-27 07:18:06
They were not disqualified, they broke the rules and therefore lost the match by forfeit. That's not the same as being disqualified.

It's noones fault they don't know the rules and want to play the game.
2009-01-27 15:42:21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6AVPvWqyME&eurl=http://rewind.com.pt/forum/index.php?topic=4673.0


See it.
2009-01-27 23:42:22
nice -.- BIH win gl
2009-01-27 08:11:25
by: dMC
#18
Bugflash at inferno? ;O

Where? :O
2009-01-27 08:20:33
mb in banana @ t's ramp o_O ?
2009-01-27 09:17:32
by: dMC
#22
:O Never heard of? ;O
2009-01-27 10:35:03
I thing that bugflash is on A bomb.
2009-01-27 13:12:31
Are you going to open the bets or refund ??:)
2009-01-27 09:26:16
BiH's going to win again ;)
2009-01-27 12:11:38
Soble maestro :) go on !
2009-01-27 13:01:00
BIH will take this easy !
2009-01-27 13:03:17
by: fzZ
#35
great emotions
2009-01-27 13:24:24
by: dabl
#36
bih will take it
2009-01-27 13:50:34
So stupid!
Portugal will lose anyway!

Portugal players must know that if they lose now, when they get a new chance, they can go home and eat pie (becouse pita will pwn them haha),and don't play CS anymore!
2009-01-27 14:26:51
by: Aeed
#38
bih ftw :)

They are better then PT :)

map ?
2009-01-27 14:38:24
map probably dd2
2009-01-27 14:44:19
by: QD
#40
where is flashbug on inferno? :D
2009-01-27 14:45:17
What will happen with the bets??? I lost all my money on this match... bets will be refund?? or my bet will be on portugal for the third match?
2009-01-27 14:46:43
Don't worry. PT will lose again. So nothing special is changed! =)
2009-01-27 14:50:16
i dont think so, fat boy with 12 years.
2009-01-27 16:05:50
FU! little female chicken will f*** PT!
2009-01-27 20:33:39
sry, the true its so hard :s
2009-01-27 21:31:09
This is really funny ... But whatever BiH will again pwn them ;) BiH now have a very good team .. not like last years ... they did a mistake but whatever they will win them again.. Portugal heatons l2p .. :) bb

2009-01-27 14:54:34
by: Tok1
#44
i think portugal likes to be pwned
2009-01-27 15:01:12
16# is right

21# 23# and 26# grow up please
2009-01-27 15:04:16
BiH will win anyways again, they can't do anything :P
Gl BiH ! pita <3
2009-01-27 15:23:28
what will happen with the bets?
2009-01-27 15:26:06
Yes Portugal had a bad connection...but B&H played better, no doubt about that...
2009-01-27 15:43:48
BiH win again BiH < PT
2009-01-27 15:44:52
PT < BiH * sry :D
2009-01-27 15:45:41
You could have used the edit button ;)
2009-01-27 15:50:33
portugal with 80 and sometimes 100 ping. bih with 40, it isnt fair. pt take that d2 if they play it in a fairly sv.
sorry english, l0l.
2009-01-27 15:57:54
wrong, ping difference was nowhere near that bad.
The ping difference was around 10/15ms, not 40...

Post edited 2009-01-27 16:01:49
2009-01-27 16:00:42
the top fragger of BiH, with 30 frags, have 25 ping, and the rest with a high ping, same of portugal, have a 8 frags, please, open ur eyes.
2009-01-27 15:59:24
when is the match???
2009-01-27 16:49:13
19:00 today !
2009-01-27 17:52:59
ty
2009-01-27 19:28:37
open your eyes, portugal playing whith EHZ? OMG why Weapon don't play? it's a good AW player!
2009-01-27 17:26:05
I don't know why he didn't play, but ehz is a good player. He just underperformed imo
2009-01-27 17:51:44
by: h1v
#75
jao FTW BIH ....win again and again
2009-01-27 18:01:18
last year portugal was disqualified agains cech republic due to a duckjump, let's see this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6AVPvWqyME

top teams never have penalized.

Post edited 2009-01-27 18:05:29
2009-01-27 18:05:15
Since when is BIH a top team..
2009-02-09 00:43:38
Bosnia will win again :)

we are better
2009-01-27 18:07:57
i dont tink so
2009-01-27 18:31:19
we'll see....
2009-01-27 18:49:40
Just f*king silly.
2009-01-27 18:46:57
Can't belive in this ... BiH learn them again how to play CS ... -.-
2009-01-27 18:51:04
learn them or teach them -.-' the one who was to learn is you... and yes you will learn from the portuguese players.
GO PORTUGALLLLLLL
2009-01-27 19:37:48
the one who "was" to learn?
2009-01-27 21:11:09
maybe has...pita was clearly cheating....xDDD
2009-01-28 19:42:15
dusnt matter when they report, BiH used bug and thats lame so right on play last map ! GO PORTUGAL
2009-01-27 18:58:40
Omfg. I laughed so hard at many of these comments (like #60 and #63 ). What r u ppl from PT biAtching about ??? U won .... this one. Next one u lose. Next one is all about skill, and u'll get ur azz pwnd, so stfu and stop whining ffs.

Go Go Go BiH !!!
2009-01-27 19:05:41
anybody knows hltv ip for the game???
2009-01-27 19:38:30
that not's fare
:(
2009-01-27 19:48:56
Admins should really take a look at this thread...

Portugal lost, and will probably lose again. BiH just plays better than Portugal, that's a fact. :(

But rules are rules and if some of you guys don't like rules simply don't play professional CS. That's a fact aswell. :)

Now if SK or mTw reported this same bug I wonder how many of you would still be here complaining (or whining o.o) about the rules. Probably no one.

So let's just enjoy those portuguese so called superstars losing again and pray so that portuguese CS take a huge refresh in the next year and they get back in better shape. :)

Good luck both teams
2009-01-27 20:50:18
Portuguese superstars?
2009-01-27 23:17:14
he was reffering to you, obviously
2009-01-28 01:12:29
Yeah I know but why the plural?
2009-01-28 19:31:44
maybe me too (=^;^=)
2009-01-28 20:15:06
Not at all!
2009-02-09 00:32:23
Those kind of superstars that use words like "retards" in a live match
2009-01-28 20:39:27
Doesn't mean they are superstars :)
2009-01-28 21:07:05
[irony] superstars [/irony]
2009-01-28 23:30:02
I know it was ironic, but I didn't understand the point of it. Noone thinks they are superstars, so what's the point?
2009-01-28 23:53:52
Dude. Themselfs think are superstars
2009-01-29 20:32:58
I really don't think so.. Why do you say that?
2009-01-29 21:33:35
if is today... were is the hltv ip???
2009-01-27 21:00:19
maybe there won't be third map....
2009-01-27 21:29:50
:( i want a see...
2009-01-27 21:36:16
why wouldn't there be?
2009-01-27 23:22:08
That's quite true! When you blame someone for breaking the rules, than you have to make sure you didn't break them! Whine gets counter-whine, so it can bounce of your head.
2009-01-28 01:46:21
Go Portugal :D
Hey play whit out flash bug :D
2009-01-27 22:20:15
Is there going to be a 3rd map or what? News?
2009-01-27 22:31:34
portugal getting another chance, but i'm sure they will lose again ;)
2009-01-27 22:56:40
Yeah we dont have great players in Portugal.
But we also dont have good connections, so they can't train well against top clans.
2009-01-27 23:33:32
TTFU
2009-01-28 15:08:09
you bosnians must be very stubards or simply like to go and fight with everyone. So we lost the two matches and got a new chance because they did fb, and? its in the rules so stop contesting it and get something to do beside coming here to post such crap posts
2009-01-28 16:28:42
one of your players actually watsoN also broke the rule...cuz he didn't played match on right steam ID i think....
2009-01-28 16:39:29
Don't worry! We are just disturbed, and don't have nothing against you ( Portugal ). Match is tonight at 20:00, and better will win. But also one of yours players broke the rule and played on wrong steam ID. Portugal also need to get penalty points. GL!
2009-01-28 17:17:44
well the only thing i can say in watson defence is that it was his first game outside portugal
2009-01-28 17:56:18
like you said RULE is RULE...but ok
2009-01-28 18:15:12
we will beat portugal again!
2009-01-28 17:04:09
Really lame and unprofessional from PT.

Even if Laquila used FB (Which I didn't notice) it doesn't change anything,Portugal won that round anyway. So yeah,if Laquila's FB really did help Bosnia it would be ok to withdraw 2 rounds but it didn't change a thing,Portugal won the round !

What to say,I'll have more pleasure seeing Portugal pwned 2 times :)


And for those who say it was unfair because PT players had bigger ping...you obviously don't know what are you talking 'bout.They have found a really good DE server which PT declined so they played on FR server,YES IT WAS PT who choosed the server they played on.

Also you mention bad connections in PT,well I think Portugal is more advanced country than BiH and that you guys downthere have way better connections.

KKTHXBAI!
2009-01-28 17:29:23
men do you think abaut you say or you only say the things???

"Really lame and unprofessional from PT.

Even if Laquila used FB (Which I didn't notice) it doesn't change anything,Portugal won that round anyway. So yeah,if Laquila's FB really did help Bosnia it would be ok to withdraw 2 rounds but it didn't change a thing,Portugal won the round !"

its a question of follow the rules... they use a FB they lost 2 round... ok PT loses because of many thing and 1 of then is because BH played better!!! many times its a game like this a locky move define the winner.
2009-01-28 19:31:52
Bosnia didn't follow a rule, so they should be punished. CB did the right thing, like they did last year to Portugal.

However you are right about the pings, I don't know why it was brought up
2009-01-28 19:34:28
the pings are almost the same... that was a lazy escuse
2009-01-28 19:40:14
lol?did u see ehz ping?im pretty sure that he cant even see is opponents...joking, maybe that is a excuse, but pt had very bad ping men, thats a fact...:) but bosnia won, and deserver it...and for the bosnians mates, why all that angry?they just follow the rules, just like they did last year...so stfu...
2009-01-28 19:54:45
We were just mad because we beat better team than us and we almost had to play one more map :)

Now it's all ok :) Support us :D
2009-01-28 23:34:30
I will ;) I like less famous teams to win
2009-02-09 00:33:12
we will pwn portugals heatons again ;) bb
2009-01-28 18:00:07
when is the game ?
2009-01-28 19:02:49
gg.

GL B & H
2009-01-28 20:04:17
lol gg watson :)
2009-01-28 20:06:34
GL bosnia !!!
2009-01-28 20:09:41
BiH goes to group stage

http://clanbase.ggl.com/news_league.php?nid=309231&lid=8336

Post edited 2009-01-28 20:15:45
2009-01-28 20:15:04
There you go. Rules are rules. :)
Go Bosnia
2009-01-28 20:40:20
lol watson :\
2009-01-28 21:09:15
rookie mistake got us :/
2009-01-28 22:10:52

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