WCG Venezuela - a big scam?
By: MIRAA
Time: 2009-09-15 21:12
Game: Counter-Strike 1.6

The Venezuelan qualifier for the World Cyber Games was called off half way through last weekend, leaving all of the players empty-handed.

The qualifier was due to take place at the Sambil Maracaibo Convention Center in Maracaibo, the country's second largest city, and reward the winners of the tournaments with a spot in the 2010 Pan-American event.

It was impossible, according to the organizer of the Venezuelan qualifier, Christian Cox, to provide paid travel and accomodation to this year's WCG finals in Chengdu, citing that Samsung had decided to pull out as the main sponsor of the event due to a new law in the country against violent games.

However, according to, Rafael "MaldiNatOr" Moreno, captain of Counter-Strike team NoLimit, such law has yet not been approved and it only targets minors, just like it happens in Germany.

"This WCG was a fraud, and why was it a fraud? Because they made use of a law that has not been approved yet and is only for minors and they cancelled the trip to China and kept all the money to themselves," Moreno told HLTV.org.

But that was not the end of it. The DoTA qualifier was scheduled to start on Friday but when the participating teams arrived at the venue, there was still no sign of the computers. The competition ended up being transferred to a local internet cafe, whose owner did not take long to send the players back to the original venue as he had not been paid anything.

At the Sambil Maracaibo Convention Center, the Counter-Strike qualifier had started, but the company providing the computers and monitors started packing their things just two maps into the competition, claiming they had not been paid by the WCG organizer.

Meanwhile, the players learned that the organizer was not going to cover the teams' expenses, like he had promised to, leaving several gamers with nothing to eat and no place to stay for more than two days.

Things heated up right after as gamers protested against this situation, resulting in two of them being assaulted by the convention center's security. After this, the event was called off and the players were ordered to leave the venue.

This is not the first time that this has happened in Venezuela. In 2003, Cox, who has held the WCG license in the country for six years, refused to pay the plane tickets to the winning team, who ended up missing the event. In fact, he has only sent FIFA representatives to the world finals, from 2005 onwards.

As it stands now, the teams and players will not only miss out on the WCG finals, but also their involvement in next year's Pan-American tournament is in doubt. The Venezuelan community is now united against Cox as they hope he will finally lose his WCG license.

"We are studying a way to make a request but we never signed anything...," he added. "We want the WCG to give the license to someone else who is more serious and has a sense of responsibility."

HLTV.org has tried to contact the WCG on this matter, but without success.

Bad news for Venezuelan gamers!!
2009-09-15 22:15:32
rly ?
2009-09-16 15:29:43
:/
2009-09-15 22:16:41
lol what is this....my god
2009-09-15 22:16:55
lol samething like this happens here last year =(
2009-09-15 22:17:45
by: Geko
#5
Don't complain about this. In Bulgaria the situation has been similar for many many years now :D

Post edited 2009-09-15 22:18:27
2009-09-15 22:17:45
Thanks to www.hltv.org for let us to contact them and the support they show for this big mess we want to all know the reality of some organizers that they only affect gamers we hope this get trough wcg people...
2009-09-15 22:18:42
by: dubb
#8
Awful
2009-09-15 22:25:16
Agreed with what most above have said, this freaking sucks
2009-09-15 22:28:31
what a joke 1 person in the country has the WCG lisence and hes cheating the players. someone better step up.
2009-09-15 22:30:14
by: froa
#11
best of luck Venezuelan gamers... fu*king organisators :@
2009-09-15 22:31:24
What a fuckin bastards, sorry for my rude words but I don't have anything better to say for those little rats.
2009-09-15 22:34:49
Owned
2009-09-15 22:39:22
sad
2009-09-15 22:45:03
Sucks... :/ seriously, we need better organizations for the possibility of making big events. We want to see one of our teams playing in the pro scene any time soon.
2009-09-15 22:55:09
I though that things happens only in Poland
2009-09-15 22:57:15
watacrap

wish them luck anyway
2009-09-15 22:59:33
If some one screwd me like that i think that i would break his arms and legs and then sh*t and p*ss on him and left him in the woods =]
2009-09-15 23:10:01
I just heard the news about the "event" thru some friends, and even though I don't play much nowadays some years ago while I still lived in Venezuela I used to go the big events related to gaming. This guy Christian Cox "Strider" has been a failure on any kind of major event he tried to organize. This has been demonstrated since the early stages of NeuralNet, the first lan party of its kind in Venezuela.

I travelled from Caracas to Maracaibo for NeuralNet 5 only to find electricity problems in the event installation that the organization couldn't resolve promptly and that made us go to a friend's place to do our own small lan party. This was years ago and I can't comprehend how this guy was in charge of the WCG in Venezuela when everyone knows his inability to organize and be in charge of any event of this kind, not even a small lan party back in the day.

So please, on behalf of all the venezuelan gamers: keep Christian Cox away from the community or at least from any kind of organizing efforts for events of this relevance.

Thanks.
2009-09-15 23:18:29
run over him
2009-09-15 23:25:37
que fraude esos tipos hay que denunciarlos, y ademas estan dañando la reputacion de venezuela en los juegos ya que venezuela es muy buena en los videojuegos.

English

those guys that fraud must be reported, and they are damaging the reputation of the games in Venezuela because Venezuela is very good at video games.
2009-09-15 23:47:55
by: bpr
#24
HAHAHAHHAH Venezuelan thats so pathetic.
2009-09-16 00:11:13
ten years old? :/
2009-09-16 01:20:49
by: bubber - HLTV.org
#32
I could be a typical raging hippo against you and ask you which great team Australia has... but i'm not gonna do that.

Instead i ask you, do you know more than 1 team from Venezuela?
2009-09-16 03:00:19
loool i treid my best to find some Venezuela c.s team 1.6, but i can find any reccord of some biguest team......i can be wrong and i ask you to give me the name of the team......

Now for australia i find Immunity that make some mess agains Grecce, UK and Portugal in some tornament, and if i'm wrong just let me know....
2009-09-16 10:55:57
by: bubber - HLTV.org
#46
My point was not whom has the best team, as i clearly tried to state in my post.
My point was that, you don't even know one single team from Venezuela.
So how can you judge them if you don't know them???...
2009-09-16 12:19:47
Same jugment, from Portugal do you know any greath team......?

of course you probably see the flag of portugal in some match, but they aren´t that well know exept purhaps Foxj (the AWP Master from portugal)

In fact they can have some greath team on the rising and you dont know that....

So give them the benefict of the douth.
2009-09-16 12:25:22
by: bubber - HLTV.org
#48
You still don't get my point, you don't see me nagging on Portugal do you? He nagged on Venezuela.

btw. i know k1ck and defs, if they still are together...
2009-09-16 12:41:37
K1ck still exist, they got foxj.
Defs well i dont see any thing from them latly.

And BTW just give them the benefict of the douth. thats all i'm saying.

P.S: i give my self to the trouble to try and find SOMETHING about Venezuela, wasen't easy but my freind i find it.....

www.sk-gaming.com/forum/2-CounterStrike/2298537-best_cs_team_in_your_country

xix and n1.. (Venezuela) Hope u see it in WCG :D good teams.. the form to play is really diferent.
2009-09-16 12:50:41
by: bubber - HLTV.org
#51
xix: www.sk-gaming.com/team/2175-XIX
Couldn't find the other one (:
2009-09-16 13:07:22
well perhaps they desapier in to the whoods

But We fond one see, very happy now


Post edited 2009-09-16 14:01:13
2009-09-16 14:00:50
benefict of the douth?
2009-09-18 18:43:29
the teams on venezul.....

The benefic of the douth, because that....

they can actually play very good
2009-09-21 10:23:45
Are you sure you don't mean "benefit of the doubt"?:P
2009-09-21 22:03:49
loool
2009-09-22 11:04:38
And I'm afraid you're still using it the wrong way-.-
2009-09-22 12:38:51
Retard.
2009-09-18 21:03:51
i've read all the comments and the majority agrees that things like this needs to come to an end.

Probably most of you don't have an idea of where Venezuela is, and most likely, you live pretty far away from us. Truth is Venezuela is a country with so much social and political problems that have been affecting us. When it got to our attention that the WCG was coming to Venezuela that made almost every venezuelan gamer happy since we rarely have the opportunity to compete for a spot in any international tournament, because of all our political problems, there just isn't any sponsor interested on promoting those kind of events.

What i would like everyone to understand, is our situation, try to feel how it is to be scammed like this and get no help from anybody since nobody cares. Please care, for the sake of gaming and for the sake of being respected. Tons of gamers invested their money to compete, money that in the end was stolen. Things like this needs to come to an end now

Thanks HLTV.org for the support

P.D:
This "video gaming law" the organizer is apparently using as an excuse, is in first place in the debate phase, it has not even been approved yet. And secondly this law would also affect WCG Brasil, since there is the same law in order, since january 2008

Post edited 2009-09-16 00:28:43
2009-09-16 00:20:45
what political problems? :s
just a guy with bad intentions..
nothing more..
2009-09-16 01:35:18
What political problems? Are you for real man?

Does the name Hugo Chavez ring any bells?
2009-09-16 03:10:01
my friend you do not live in Venezuela so I do not think of politics in Venezuela please

I agree with Lupan

whhat political problems?
he was a bad organizer that I do not carry out its work
That said lies to many players

Post edited 2009-09-16 07:45:08
2009-09-16 07:33:51
Just because you live in Venezuela and he doesn't you don't know more about your own country than him.:P
2009-09-18 18:44:31
c'mon dude.. OBVIOUSLY we know more than him (: and than u about our country.. only repeat the first thing they see on tv :/.. in this way.. even u could know more than i :)

peace
2009-09-19 10:18:38
No it's not obvious? Just because you're from Venezuela you obviously don't know more about Venezuela than him. It's quite probable that you do, but it doesn't have to be like that. :P
2009-09-19 11:50:20
voilaaa :D u r a damn fu**** genius.. exactly.. IS PROBABLE.. not a fact..
2009-09-19 20:52:28
Well, you weren't sarcastic now were you! Try saying that instead of something else next time!
2009-09-21 22:07:31
GO FIDEL CASTROOOOOO !
2009-09-16 20:16:44
Thnx. HLTV.org, really need help about having any contact with the WCG staff to raise the issue that has been happening in Venezuela these last years
2009-09-16 00:52:35
same incident here in our country ^_^.. they posted the event schedule @ wcg.com but the local site ddnt up until now ... and last week we found out that PH wcg has been removed from the current lineup of ASIA ...
2009-09-16 01:02:26
WCG is really epic fail in so many countries.
2009-09-16 01:16:47
cause idiots are given license to organize it
2009-09-16 14:44:13
Same things about WCG in baltic this year. Sad.
2009-09-16 01:35:48
by: vaz
#34
Write a letter/email to Samsung, or call Samsung Venezuela 0 800 100 5303
2009-09-16 03:22:50
We are so dissapointed about what happened here 3 days ago, we would like that WCG make something about the situation, there will be no Fifa, Wc3 and CS players at China, there will be Forfeits all over the brackets?, at least making a online qualifier would be good to send someone to represent Venezuela...

I sent already 2 mails to WCG but still without an Answer

Like neto said: "Tons of gamers invested their money to compete, money that in the end was stolen. Things like this needs to come to an end now"

Please WCG Step ahead

Post edited 2009-09-16 04:27:18
2009-09-16 04:16:39
Same thing here in Peru ,we dont have WCG in counter strike category :(
2009-09-16 04:37:12
Thats not the same thing, we got stolen, Peru at least send WC3,SC and Fifa players

Post edited 2009-09-16 04:42:05
2009-09-16 04:41:16
Same here in Panama :( <3 big nico
2009-09-16 23:26:55
It's far from the same. You just don't arrange it, noone promises CS-players it'll be arranged. This is compleeeeeetely different.
2009-09-18 18:45:43
yeah ur right,that's why im saying in only counter strike category.
2009-09-16 05:01:16
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#62
If you use the 'Reply' button the user will/would know you replied to him/her ;)
2009-09-16 18:44:19
huh law against violent games :SS when will they realize its not the game causes violence
2009-09-16 08:50:10
by: RzE
#41
Same here in Bulgaria..
2009-09-16 10:43:35
poor venezuela playerz :(
2009-09-16 12:02:34
"leaving several gamers with nothing to eat and no place to stay for more than two days"

Awful nothing more to say I fear.

2009-09-16 12:12:53
LATVIA STYLE :DDDDDDDDDDDDD
2009-09-16 12:48:47
they can still travel to China on their own if they think they can make some money there :) same situtation is in more countries...
2009-09-16 13:15:20
How, since they didn't have a qualifier?..
2009-09-18 18:46:09
bad news...this sucks big time


Post edited 2009-09-16 13:50:24
2009-09-16 13:50:06
well nice article.
This could be something for this new G7 thing or ????
2009-09-16 14:25:54
by: -SmN
#57
Hi, i post in SK Gaming.. i feel really bad for our teams it was a scam.. the friday in DOTA Qualifers.. the players humillated want a answer from the orgazitazors.. what happend ? some security guard grab him for the hair and throw it away to the exit.. u think that is possible OMG.. sorry for my bad english ;)

If you want some demos of our teams

http://ve.wcg.com/demos/

Top Teams
XIX
N1
NoLimits
Nagasaky
2009-09-16 15:01:25
ve.wcg.com/demos/
2009-09-18 18:46:33
by: -SmN
#58
HLTV you r a great organization, i hope u can get some answer of the WCG T_T .. Change to other organitazor, no thief.. hope 2010 WCG be better U_U
2009-09-16 15:07:29
This is the sad reality of the country Venezuela .... corruption is what this country has Latin in the 3rd World ideology and THANK STRIDER impact the community by
2009-09-16 16:30:45
like a runescape scam ?
2009-09-16 21:37:54
omfg.
2009-09-16 21:47:11
Seriously corrupted country. At least Angel Munez hosted the events before not paying out on occasion.
2009-09-16 21:53:48
what a fucking douche
2009-09-16 23:42:10
sucks to hear maldi. GL getting rid of him. GL to you guys in the future.
2009-09-17 06:10:51
wmf replace venezuela :b
2009-09-18 01:46:03
we were stolen without gun :(
2009-09-18 05:41:37
If this has happened for like 7 years, why do you still allow him to host the events? Suit yourself lol..
2009-09-18 18:47:21
cuze the human being is the only animal that trips twice(in this case, many times xd) with the same rock...

sry 4 my ugly english x_x
2009-09-18 21:58:31
Wasn't really an excuse was it...
2009-09-19 00:23:38
wasn't a excuse..

forget it..

the damage is done ):


2009-09-19 04:22:45
:)
2009-09-19 11:51:16
And he's selling the shirts and stuff on internet... This guy needs to get his ass kicked
2009-09-18 23:02:58
that sucks :(
2009-09-19 05:31:19
hes the same organizer from guatemala and panama watch out guys!
2009-09-19 20:14:44

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