Alternate sign b4d
By: MIRAA
Time: 2010-01-08 22:06

Team Alternate have confirmed the signing of Bastian "b4d" Gaffron from n!faculty.

The German giants had been linked with roster changes since the EPS season came to an end, with reports in Germany indicating veteran Jan "mooN" Stolle to be close to retirement.

Bastian "b4d" Gaffron, who had been with n!faculty since October 2007, has now been confirmed as Alternate's new fifth player, replacing Benjamin "paN" von Mulert, who is expected to move in the opposite direction after being confirmed as a stand-in for the Extreme Masters European Finals.


b4d: New Alternate man

This is the second roster changes Alternate undergo ahead of the new season, following the addition of Direnc "seraph" Öz, who will replace Roman "roman" Ausserdorfer.

Team Alternate have now:

Manuel "approx' Zeitz
Jan "mooN" Stolle
 Roman "Roman R." Reinhardt
Direnc "seraph" Öz
Bastian "b4d" Gaffron

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Keep em coming hltv! Silly season<3
2010-01-08 22:07:36
seraph is able to play at WCG so he is german, please fix that ..
2010-01-08 22:23:07
maybe he has double citizenship
2010-01-09 00:03:42
I don't think that Germany allows multiple citizenships, but I might be wrong.
2010-01-09 18:09:21
U are worng...
2010-01-09 19:43:50
No, it seems that you are. Within reason:
"Germany and Austria officially do not allow dual citizenship, but Germans and Austrians can apply for a permit to keep their citizenship ("Beibehaltungsgenehmigung") before taking a second one (Arnold Schwarzenegger holds Austrian and US citizenship)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_nationality#Citizenship_of_multiple_countries
2010-01-09 21:02:51
nice move
2010-01-08 22:07:37
gL b4d
2010-01-08 22:07:52
HF & GL
2010-01-08 22:08:02
I don't know if that's a smart decision to kick paN from the lineup, he's much more experianced than seraph.
Having two players that don't have any international experiance like the others have will damage them.
mouz tried it with cash and failed, now they are with roman and they will become sick.


Anyway, good luck! b4d is great, I'm gonna miss paN.
2010-01-08 22:08:32
fnatic tried get_right and gux.. look wot happened =))
2010-01-08 22:39:49
Gux and GeT_RiGhT are much more experianced internationally than seraph and b4d ( they played with Blank Giants etc. )

2010-01-09 09:35:33
b4d play cs for a long time! so he will have some good experience!
2010-01-09 12:32:44
yeah, but his international experiance isn't good as paN's.
2010-01-09 19:39:23
At 1sst they have to defend their position IN german. btw nobody knows y pan leaves attax
2010-01-09 19:45:41
b4d has got far more international experience than what Gux had before he joined fnatic. :P
2010-01-15 23:22:06
i find ur opinion shit. seraph is the replacement of roman so what are u talking about. and what happend to cash is a other story, he was very good international and that he is removed has nothing to do whit his gameplay. be better informed next comment
2010-01-08 23:22:17
they didnt kicked pan

Post edited 2010-01-08 23:43:55
2010-01-08 23:41:18
alternate did not kick paN!
he leaved them!
2010-01-09 12:35:19
Nobody said they kicked paN.
2010-01-15 23:21:38
by: biox
#6
too bad
2010-01-08 22:08:32
nah , bad lineup. paN , roman > seraph b4d =D
2010-01-08 22:09:11
seraph turkish? isnt that a man who was a stand-in at mouz at wcg? he cant be turkish

so paN was kicked for being stand-in for n!? or he want to play in n! permently? imo not good change

Post edited 2010-01-08 22:11:36
2010-01-08 22:09:43
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#15
He might feature the Turkish flag but still too have German papers ;)
2010-01-08 22:32:03
Germany does not allow dual citizenships, and since he played for mouz during WCG he must be German, therefore the Turkish flag definitely should not be there. ;)
2010-01-15 23:23:09
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#88
He features Turkish as nationality at his Esl profile thus he should know better than anyone else with regard to this, or even, in the end, be wrong about it.
2010-01-15 23:31:46
same thing as with pita from MYM. He's swedish. Has been living in sweden for all his life though he has a bosnian flag.
2010-01-08 22:56:10
He is a Bosnian citizen though, and he has played for the Bosnian national team for example.
2010-01-15 23:23:49
by: duka
#9
rofl what a bad lu : ) ill wait and see
2010-01-08 22:12:41
seraph is able to play at WCG so he is german, please fix that ..
2010-01-08 22:22:47
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#20
Do you know if German citizenship excludes any other?
2010-01-08 22:41:14
by: gn0x
#54
No it does not. ;)
2010-01-09 10:46:58
W T F. attax cant be helped anymore.
2010-01-08 22:24:26
Nice line up, my*+n!+aTTaX=?
2010-01-08 22:26:46
b4d is a good player,gl
2010-01-08 22:33:36
Good line up, pretty.
2010-01-08 22:33:45
strange line up
only good players, but there's sth weird
2010-01-08 22:37:59
Good pickup he was the best player on n!faculty, one of the best in Germany.
2010-01-08 22:44:43
by: hyu
#22
hmmm whatever happened to cash

also b4d is good

Post edited 2010-01-08 22:45:52
2010-01-08 22:45:37
GL
2010-01-08 22:58:17
everyone is changing teams, 2010 will be a surprise-year =l
2010-01-08 22:59:43
b4d is insane, everyone doubting that have absolutely no clue at all.
2010-01-08 23:16:41
Nice move...Go Alternate!!!
2010-01-08 23:18:29
GL b4d & seraph
2010-01-08 23:20:48
interesting line-up, lets see what they can do.
HF GL Alternate!
2010-01-08 23:36:57
i want to see shiddy there (:
2010-01-08 23:37:59
imo. shiddy is overrated :P
2010-01-08 23:44:29
i didn't watch him soon, maybe you're right.
2010-01-09 00:23:57
b4d is realy good player... you will see ;]
2010-01-08 23:55:36
by: 3xm
#35
gl b4d and seraph
2010-01-08 23:56:08
b4d good player
2010-01-08 23:56:53
If mooN retires, CS 1.6 will probably be closed on steam by valve xD I mean this guy plays on the top level like from the beginning?

I don't even know these times, well before HeatoN was discovered xDDD
2010-01-09 00:10:03
What?
2010-01-09 11:14:44
alternate will fail without roman
2010-01-09 00:18:57
Alternate is just the ultimate swap meat of counter strike.

GL to Alternate with b4d
2010-01-09 00:32:10
this makes me sad, i would love to see:

cyx approx moon tixo roman

but it wont happen :(
2010-01-09 01:43:49
seraph is a good pickup right now. We'll see how good of a pickup he was when it comes to how he preforms on LAN. paN was a really good player but he never played as good on LAN as he did online. Not saying he cheats, its just that he doesn't preform well on LAN.

I really hope mooN doesn't retire he's one of my fav. players and is probably the smartest ingame leader to ever play this game.

b4d, seraph & approx are solid. they really need to replace Roman with a young skilled player who's hungry to not just win, but to play.
2010-01-09 01:51:37
Im very sorry for faculty but a huge win for aTTaX
2010-01-09 01:51:57
by: k4te
#45
now n! should take cash back otherwise a talent could drop away. ALTERNATE can play with 3 AWPs now.
2010-01-09 02:13:10
roman out, omg... the best player on the world...

Post edited 2010-01-09 02:37:38
2010-01-09 02:35:03
He decided to join mousesports, they didn't really have a choice.
2010-01-15 23:26:47
b4d is one of the best players in Germany for all those doubting him, he was the best the player on n!faculty which is THe best german team besides mouz and attax, he is also way better than paN, good move by Alternate.

Now all Alternate needs to do is pick up ODIE from n! to replace Roman R.
2010-01-09 03:22:01
ODIE would be nice, but I really miss gerdi, that guy was insane with rifles in his n! times.
2010-01-09 04:57:50
3 AWPerS?
mooN apx b4d
wait to see : )
2010-01-09 05:48:41
I'm not sure, b4d is really skilled, but paN is more experienced and very skilled too.
2010-01-09 06:40:04
b4d is a good pickup no doubt...he will perform well
will also add something new to the gameplay
2010-01-09 07:06:53
i saw this frag movie , e-bash.! and b4d was unbelievable.! but hey that was jus a 15min movie.!
2010-01-09 07:30:31
b4d is good pickup, will be see the new signs how can play with stars.
2010-01-09 11:29:57
good luck.

seraph from ? turkey ? germany ?
2010-01-09 13:06:28
Turkey!
2010-01-09 15:19:11
Germany.
2010-01-15 23:27:22
nice pickups
2010-01-09 13:21:44
hf
2010-01-09 13:45:07
- Roman R. plz!!!
2010-01-09 15:18:44
WRONG ! JUST WRONG, alternate loses power, i bet they cant keep up the top 5 right now with this lineup

attax :

roman
pan
moon
chef-koch
approx <3
2010-01-09 16:00:38
But hey, lets give it a chanse, Good luck all :)
2010-01-09 16:02:05
b4d is a really good player i saw a couple of vids nice fragger.
gl to him and Alternate
2010-01-09 16:45:34
hmmm
2010-01-09 17:33:45
by: jagd
#73
are you crazy??
lol

seraph from Turkey... But he have 2 citizen...And now turkey flag is correct.Because he is from TURKEY
<3 TURKEY
TURKISH POWER !!!!
2010-01-10 10:42:03
its just that it might confuse cause he is able to play the wcg for attax unlike gob b for mouz

:o
2010-01-10 12:34:32
Germany does not allow dual citizenship, and he played WCG for mouz, which means he has a German citizenship, and no Turkish.
2010-01-15 23:28:22
no one can replace roman thats my opinion
2010-01-10 20:22:15
very bad news for ALTERNATE aTTaX :/
2010-01-10 22:05:48
GL b4d & seraph seraph turkish boys :)
2010-01-11 12:06:46
I miss flekz :(
2010-01-12 15:57:56
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