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ESL TV #1
bruno rejects mibr move
By: MIRAA
Time: 2010-02-08 21:00
FireGamers member Bruno "bruno" Ono has denied speculation that his team could soon migrate to Made in Brazil.
FireGamers have been linked with a move to mibr ever since the Brazilian giants released their Counter-Strike team in November following a runners-up finish at the WCG qualifier.
"The last contact with the mibr organisation happened in December and we refused any kind of agreement they proposed to us," Ono told TeamPlay.com.br. "Neither FG nor FG's members are even thinking about moving to mibr.
"All rumours about MiBR signing FG can be denied. We are happy with FG and 2010 will be our year."
Reports of an impending switch by FireGamers intensified after mibr manager Leandro "chataum" Loiola guaranteed the new line-up had been found and was already practicing for the coming events.
FireGamers, who crashed out of the WCG at the group stage even after a surprise win over fnatic, yesterday won Lantek Cup against CnB Gaming.
fg limeup?
2010-02-08 21:01:53
bruno1, fnx, bit1, nak, fallen
2010-02-08 21:14:49
very god.....MiBr is dead new generation FG.
Nice dicission.
Nice dicission.
2010-02-08 21:11:30
I don't think FG can send them to europe like mibr can...
2010-02-08 21:20:43
they will just need 1 event. i am convinced they will win their first int tournament.
2010-02-08 21:32:07
but still... mibr owner is kind of rich...
2010-02-08 21:41:27
but under FG they have more freedom to do whatever suits them most, under Mibr maybe they are forced to do things they dont want
2010-02-09 00:24:46
what are u talking about?? how can this be a good decision and how can FG be the next generation if they dont have a sponsor?? im trying to find adjectives to descrive your post, but i cant find 1 that wouldnt deserve a ban.. FG isnt the new generation, they are the old one, beside FALLEN, so a move to mibr would be a wise and expected choise.. and im sure, if this guys had the same praccs that old mibr team had, at infernonline for example, they would do so much damage!! unless they find a sponsor, this is bad..
2010-02-08 21:51:21
frist of all.....LOLOLOL guiser
Second if they don't think that a move to MiBR is a wise choise what can you do....nothing.
So unless you can change there minds is a wise decission....piriod.
Gl try to find that adjective.....i try to find one for you but i'm not that smart...
" Be coold, Be happy "
Second if they don't think that a move to MiBR is a wise choise what can you do....nothing.
So unless you can change there minds is a wise decission....piriod.
Gl try to find that adjective.....i try to find one for you but i'm not that smart...
" Be coold, Be happy "
2010-02-08 21:56:12
frist of all.....LOLOLOL guiser
Second if they don't think that a move to MiBR is a wise choise what can you do....nothing.
So unless you can change there minds is a wise decission....piriod.
Gl try to find that adjective.....i try to find one for you but i'm not that smart...
" Be coold, Be happy "
dude, u should really work on that english, my goodness.. oh, i find the adjective, DUMB.. i dont need to change their minds, u know why? cause i can think, all by myself.. what is black for them, can be white for me, so they can do whatever the hell they want, but i have the right to have my own opinion.. plus, u didnt wrote a single argument to prove im wrong, but as u said, u are not that smart... be well :)
Second if they don't think that a move to MiBR is a wise choise what can you do....nothing.
So unless you can change there minds is a wise decission....piriod.
Gl try to find that adjective.....i try to find one for you but i'm not that smart...
" Be coold, Be happy "
dude, u should really work on that english, my goodness.. oh, i find the adjective, DUMB.. i dont need to change their minds, u know why? cause i can think, all by myself.. what is black for them, can be white for me, so they can do whatever the hell they want, but i have the right to have my own opinion.. plus, u didnt wrote a single argument to prove im wrong, but as u said, u are not that smart... be well :)
2010-02-08 22:43:41
you know something that is called honor? everyone besides fallen got joked from mibr. kikoo was such a dumbass and he had to decide who is on the team. he himself wasn't able to make the easiest frags against averaged teams.
i guess i don't need to explain the nice move of mibr with bit and fg.
also the players mentioned they feel very good and that there is a nice atmosphere on the team; everything they did not have when they were playing for mibr.
fg will need one good tournament and they will find their sponsors. brasil has also a nice market for any given sponsor out of the computer sector.
Post edited 2010-02-08 22:20:08
i guess i don't need to explain the nice move of mibr with bit and fg.
also the players mentioned they feel very good and that there is a nice atmosphere on the team; everything they did not have when they were playing for mibr.
fg will need one good tournament and they will find their sponsors. brasil has also a nice market for any given sponsor out of the computer sector.
Post edited 2010-02-08 22:20:08
2010-02-08 22:17:36
LOL honor?? Bit left FG to join mibr, and then, they just accepted him again?? does this sound like something that some guys a little bit of honor and respect for themselves would do? so dont talk about honor, when bit just crapped on their faces, and they smilled at him... and no, they wont ever have a sponsor as mibr have, or whatever paulo veloso is.. the industry of e-sports are not the big in brazil, so even if they get a sponsor, wont ever be that good, unless he's foreign, maybe murat lol.. plus, they beated mibr last year, i dont know in which qualifier, and sponsor? 0 so, im just saying, a move to mibr, from their career point of view, and based of past, would be a wise and expected move...:)
2010-02-08 22:36:45
where do you get your information? mibr has the funds available to send their teams to events, sure, but that organization killed one of the best teams in the world. they consistently placed top 5 every tournament, and just because they didn't get a top 3 finish within a few months, they cut one of their best players (bit), and completely changed the team dynamic so kikoo could call strats.
you should download the demos of the new mibr playing with kikoo, its hilarious how they went from amazing to truly awful. he was cut and fired after one tournament. on top of that, the organization worshipped cogu, who was amazing, but still they forced the players to form all of their strategies based around cogu. some players (nak, fnx) disagreed and eventually left the organization because they felt so strongly against it. yes, they left the #1 sponsor and their salaries because they didn't want to be dictated to anymore.
The new lineup has everything the old one needed. i still think cogu was the best awper of all time, but FalleN has real talent and can pull off amazing frags. he can't fit cogu's shoes as far as skill however, but he 4 of the best players in the world backing him up. has nothing to do with mibr as an organization.
you should download the demos of the new mibr playing with kikoo, its hilarious how they went from amazing to truly awful. he was cut and fired after one tournament. on top of that, the organization worshipped cogu, who was amazing, but still they forced the players to form all of their strategies based around cogu. some players (nak, fnx) disagreed and eventually left the organization because they felt so strongly against it. yes, they left the #1 sponsor and their salaries because they didn't want to be dictated to anymore.
The new lineup has everything the old one needed. i still think cogu was the best awper of all time, but FalleN has real talent and can pull off amazing frags. he can't fit cogu's shoes as far as skill however, but he 4 of the best players in the world backing him up. has nothing to do with mibr as an organization.
2010-02-08 22:58:49
dude, lol, i know all that.. im not around for 2 days.. i just said to that pt guy, that this decision, is everything but wise.. u give the cogu argument, but cogu aint there anymore, so, i dont see a good reason, from FG players, career point of view, to decline a bid from mibr.. lets face it, FG dont have the funds and the support, that mibr has.. i understand that the reason mibr falled apart was cogu, but cmon, mibr is one of the most respected orga in the world.. and dont give me that HONOR argument, cause fg players, scratched that word out of their vocabulary when they took bit in again.. ;) gl anyway guys, whatever ur choice is..
2010-02-08 23:51:11
no, cogu was great. it was the organization that was at fault. lets say FG goes to mibr, and they attend an event. the second fnx drops a 30 on fnatic, they'll do the same thing and put him on the high horse and force everyone to work around him. they're way too desperate to make money, and it affects their players. you don't hear any of them saying they miss mibr, only negative feedback. threatening to cut players if they dont place at every event isn't exactly the sam encouragement that you'll find with org's like fnatic and SK.
2010-02-09 01:01:22
Read #54. It was a good decision, at least imo.
2010-02-09 03:45:24
they opened the pandora box when they picked up bit once again, so a move to mibr, would be in the line of their previous behavior.. i would NEVER agree with bit joining in again if i was a fg player, as i wouldnt be in favor to a move to mibr, but im just saying would be a good move from them career pov. that's all
Post edited 2010-02-09 15:52:00
Post edited 2010-02-09 15:52:00
2010-02-09 15:51:14
Br players are out of top for about 2 years? (?).
Hope FG will make some damage now.
Hope FG will make some damage now.
2010-02-08 21:27:59
"2010 will be our year"
I lol'd. AHAHAHA MADE MY DAY
I lol'd. AHAHAHA MADE MY DAY
2010-02-08 21:37:12
i believe in them.. they have a great lineup..
2010-02-08 21:45:31
Having a great lineup isn't all. They must have SICK SICK SICK lineup to play at int tournament.
2010-02-08 21:52:26
sad :/
gl fg
gl fg
2010-02-08 21:46:26
bruno, cogu, KIKOOO, Lance and ton I think :)
2010-02-08 22:13:25
my dreamteam , great teamspirit , great teamwork that's all about that
gl m8's :)
blow it all :D
gl m8's :)
blow it all :D
2010-02-08 22:21:00
The time he was in mibr they could not
that will now get?
Even more now that they are in the fg without sponsorship
will be very difficult. ! FACT
that will now get?
Even more now that they are in the fg without sponsorship
will be very difficult. ! FACT
2010-02-08 22:38:50
good mibr is terrible.
2010-02-08 22:44:55
FG is the best in Brazil (line)
2010-02-08 22:55:18
actually, fg is the best team in brazil, but they dont have chance with competition out of brazil.
i'd like to see a line with fnx, fallen and + 3 top players in brazil, without bruno1, nak and bit1 because they aren't a regular players. its my opinion.
the only team in brazil that has enough support to participate and win international titles, it's the mibr! think about it.
i'd like to see a line with fnx, fallen and + 3 top players in brazil, without bruno1, nak and bit1 because they aren't a regular players. its my opinion.
the only team in brazil that has enough support to participate and win international titles, it's the mibr! think about it.
2010-02-09 00:00:48
fallen are the new awp face from brazil
2010-02-09 00:05:50
#25 HAHAHAHAHAHA :D
2010-02-09 01:03:44
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2010-02-09 15:57:55
my fav team :P idk i just love the players, screw whatever tag they're using.
Post edited 2010-02-09 01:06:28
Post edited 2010-02-09 01:06:28
2010-02-09 01:06:10
@ katie
Dude it isnt everything in "LINEUP" cRYSTAL proved this at IOL Finals with random semi-pro players from Sweden while ago when they destroyed SK in one map, Begrip in two maps & LL from Norway and couple more.
Everything is in the MOTIVATION.But also is important to have desire to exercise, good atmosphere among the players, good ingame leader, hard work to get ur tatctis on LEVEL and couple stuffs more.
ONTOPIC
This is great move from them IMO, and FireGamers stuff should respect this move and should work harder to get proper sponsor, I am quite sure that u can find some sponsor with good promotion of the team and couple of good results at international scene.
Post edited 2010-02-09 01:27:23
Dude it isnt everything in "LINEUP" cRYSTAL proved this at IOL Finals with random semi-pro players from Sweden while ago when they destroyed SK in one map, Begrip in two maps & LL from Norway and couple more.
Everything is in the MOTIVATION.But also is important to have desire to exercise, good atmosphere among the players, good ingame leader, hard work to get ur tatctis on LEVEL and couple stuffs more.
ONTOPIC
This is great move from them IMO, and FireGamers stuff should respect this move and should work harder to get proper sponsor, I am quite sure that u can find some sponsor with good promotion of the team and couple of good results at international scene.
Post edited 2010-02-09 01:27:23
2010-02-09 01:26:05
Thing is you need sponsors to even get to compete abroad in the first place :P. They can't "prove themselves" to get sponsors if they don't have the opportunity to play internationally.
It'll probably come down to KODE5/WCG like it always does when they don't have Pvell to fund them. I still believe they have amazing potential though. Hopefully we have a quali for Kode5, since it's the earliest big international event with qualifiers held worldwide.
It'll probably come down to KODE5/WCG like it always does when they don't have Pvell to fund them. I still believe they have amazing potential though. Hopefully we have a quali for Kode5, since it's the earliest big international event with qualifiers held worldwide.
2010-02-09 02:31:06
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2010-02-09 15:57:42
to have a sick line-up I had to play for them, so, it's only a great line-up mwhaha
2010-02-09 02:27:36
I think the guys from FG voted for freedom, to play in high quality.
In my opinion, was the best choice they could have made, staying aware of the dictatorship of mibr's ORG, forcing them to play in some way that they didnt fell confortable with, this make all diference.
If you dont play with fun and relaxed, in a good atmosphere of work... sounds obvious, but in the end money doesnt mean nothing and the result will come as a failed.
The choice was like some one said above:
Mibr + Big sum's of money = Dictatorship = failing!
FG + no money = but have freedom = wining!
Despite the fact, FG's organization doesn´t have the funds needed to INT. competitions, I think in life money comes with quality of the work you do. Even if FG only could play in Brazil, in some period of time, with some good results, like they are doing, a good sponsor would be interested in them. Thats life sucess and money comes came with results of day by day hard work. This could take a day or months... the problem is to wait so long with a good line like this one.
To sum up, best choice of you guys from FG... stay in FG!!! Dont worry be happy, and playing relaxed and sick!!! hehehe
If all this players below were in their best cs playing time would be a good time:
Sick line:
- Spawn
- Cogu
- Neo
- Fnx
- Msx
In my opinion, was the best choice they could have made, staying aware of the dictatorship of mibr's ORG, forcing them to play in some way that they didnt fell confortable with, this make all diference.
If you dont play with fun and relaxed, in a good atmosphere of work... sounds obvious, but in the end money doesnt mean nothing and the result will come as a failed.
The choice was like some one said above:
Mibr + Big sum's of money = Dictatorship = failing!
FG + no money = but have freedom = wining!
Despite the fact, FG's organization doesn´t have the funds needed to INT. competitions, I think in life money comes with quality of the work you do. Even if FG only could play in Brazil, in some period of time, with some good results, like they are doing, a good sponsor would be interested in them. Thats life sucess and money comes came with results of day by day hard work. This could take a day or months... the problem is to wait so long with a good line like this one.
To sum up, best choice of you guys from FG... stay in FG!!! Dont worry be happy, and playing relaxed and sick!!! hehehe
If all this players below were in their best cs playing time would be a good time:
Sick line:
- Spawn
- Cogu
- Neo
- Fnx
- Msx
2010-02-09 02:35:46
*off-topic*
"If all this players below were in their best cs playing time would be a good time:
Sick line:
- Spawn
- Cogu
- Neo
- Fnx
- Msx "
What about f0rest? :P
"If all this players below were in their best cs playing time would be a good time:
Sick line:
- Spawn
- Cogu
- Neo
- Fnx
- Msx "
What about f0rest? :P
2010-02-09 03:38:08
forest is alredy in a greath team....no need to change.
this is a "SICK" line-up.....so it's like in football the perfect eleven. XD
off-topic: theres a thread whit this same topic where you can make your won perfect-five...try it is funny :)
" Be Cool, Stay Happy "
this is a "SICK" line-up.....so it's like in football the perfect eleven. XD
off-topic: theres a thread whit this same topic where you can make your won perfect-five...try it is funny :)
" Be Cool, Stay Happy "
2010-02-09 10:54:32
Firegamers beat CNB gaming 16-0 and 16-2 without sweating. These guys haven't even been training and they showed killer teamplay, instincts and skill. I think these 5 guys are really comfortable with each other and have learned to apreciate that money isn't everything.
With a sponsor, they will do some international damage for sure. Nak has been really stepping up, even aced a pistol round as ct on inferno.
Good luck to them.
With a sponsor, they will do some international damage for sure. Nak has been really stepping up, even aced a pistol round as ct on inferno.
Good luck to them.
2010-02-09 02:50:41
itd be nuts if a US sponsor hooked up with them. plenty of teams over here get full sponsorships without having even played a season/tournament together. plus these guys are just better
2010-02-09 03:06:57
#57 - off-topic
you are right... i really enjoy Msx playing ... he's sick .... and he never had a amazing clan to show all his potential... ok OXmoze with Rigo and others is ok.... but not like this line-up... dificult to choose 5 in CS history!
But in an more reallistic way ... yes i would choose forest... in Msx place.
so the line up would be more sick then ever.
-spawn
-cogu
-neo
-fnx
-forest
I really enjoy the gameplay of them so much exp together... could bug the cs server. thanks for the add.
even all the guys in their moments: heaton, ins, archi, get_right, da bears, nothing, frod, evo, element, bit, ton, musamb1, potti, magix, pava, eduzin, kikooo,
you are right... i really enjoy Msx playing ... he's sick .... and he never had a amazing clan to show all his potential... ok OXmoze with Rigo and others is ok.... but not like this line-up... dificult to choose 5 in CS history!
But in an more reallistic way ... yes i would choose forest... in Msx place.
so the line up would be more sick then ever.
-spawn
-cogu
-neo
-fnx
-forest
I really enjoy the gameplay of them so much exp together... could bug the cs server. thanks for the add.
even all the guys in their moments: heaton, ins, archi, get_right, da bears, nothing, frod, evo, element, bit, ton, musamb1, potti, magix, pava, eduzin, kikooo,
2010-02-09 03:57:37
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2010-02-09 15:57:05
really really want to see more of fnx and FalleN...I hope they attend all major tournaments! :)
2010-02-09 06:44:40
guys I did not understand what would mibr will rejoice at the expense of FG?
2010-02-09 10:44:26
I think bruno and co rejected move to mibr, because of sponsors. They now only have 1-2 probably.
2010-02-09 12:12:52
fg is now the best brazilian team, fg organization needs to improve, they both are excellent players, fnx and fallen are one of the best assault/awp skills in the world, but they need international events to get confident and int expirience... here in brazil we don't have big events all the time, and internet here sux, and because of that some teams they dont get " blood in there eyes " our the feeling of winners, i know my english sucks, but next we are going to see fg top3 for sure, they just need a boost or a bigger organization to play amazing like mibr was.
2010-02-09 13:51:11
#55 say everything
Firegamers beat CNB gaming 16-0 and 16-2 without sweating. These guys haven't even been training and they showed killer teamplay, instincts and skill. I think these 5 guys are really comfortable with each other and have learned to apreciate that money isn't everything.
With a sponsor, they will do some international damage for sure. Nak has been really stepping up, even aced a pistol round as ct on inferno.
Good luck to them.[2]
Firegamers beat CNB gaming 16-0 and 16-2 without sweating. These guys haven't even been training and they showed killer teamplay, instincts and skill. I think these 5 guys are really comfortable with each other and have learned to apreciate that money isn't everything.
With a sponsor, they will do some international damage for sure. Nak has been really stepping up, even aced a pistol round as ct on inferno.
Good luck to them.[2]
2010-02-09 13:55:55
fg dont move to mibr because mibr dont have money to send them to Europe, is simple, when Paulo Veloso put his hands on money again, fg turn on mibr ;) sorry the english x)
Post edited 2010-02-09 18:11:10
Post edited 2010-02-09 18:11:10
2010-02-09 18:10:55
bruno, fnx, nak, kikooo, cogu - ESWC 2006
bruno, fnx, nak, bit1, fallen - FG 2010
cogu or fallen, i cant really answer, cogu was the greatest brazilian player ever and fallen today is the brazilian with the greatest potential.
every1 edy knows about bit1, in my opition, hes better then kikoooo.
all i can say is: good luck
bruno, fnx, nak, bit1, fallen - FG 2010
cogu or fallen, i cant really answer, cogu was the greatest brazilian player ever and fallen today is the brazilian with the greatest potential.
every1 edy knows about bit1, in my opition, hes better then kikoooo.
all i can say is: good luck
2010-02-09 23:42:00
Yes, mibr lineup is better than it was on 2006, BUT all the teams around the world are better too, now. I still think that if FG cut bruno and put btt in there, there will be no team in the world to play against them. But bruno is pretty bad, so I guess he'll drop the team's potential.
2010-02-10 00:16:17
bruno is pretty bad but his friendship with anothers players in fg is so big, because this they dont cut bruno, but with BTT replacing bruno, fg will be more strong them they are. sorry abou english
2010-02-10 05:15:53
bit is MUCH better than kikoo, no contest. i think BTT is better than bruno, although bruno is a slightly smarter player imo, so it's give and take with them.
i'm personally really happy about FG's lineup right now. if they added BTT, they might be a better team for it, but there's no guarantee. After their showing at WCG (beating fnatic) i don't think they need to mess with their lineup just yet. best of luck to them
i'm personally really happy about FG's lineup right now. if they added BTT, they might be a better team for it, but there's no guarantee. After their showing at WCG (beating fnatic) i don't think they need to mess with their lineup just yet. best of luck to them
2010-02-10 17:12:36
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