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ESL TV #1
fnatic vs Na´Vi - 3rd map postponed
The third map between fnatic and Natus Vincere has been postponed, as the venue will be cutting power and internet.
Natus Vincere and fnatic will be resuming the semi-final at the IEM5 Global Challenge Shanghai tomorrow, as the venue will be cutting power and internet today at 17:30local time (11:30CET). This means that the third map, which will be de_inferno, will be played tomorrow. The teams have to show up at 08:30local time (02:30CET) to set up and the match will start as soon as possible.
HLTV.org was also informed by Michal "Carmac" Blicharz from ESL, that the final will take place at 13:00local time (07:00CET) tomorrow, instead of the scheduled time 14:30local time (08:30CET). The change comes as ChinaJoy informed ESL about the schedule change for the exhibition, meaning ESL had to move the final, to prevent power and internet being cut at the time of the match.
The third place match, which is scheduled to 10:00local time (04:00CET), is expected to start approximately around this time. It is important to note that ESL had no way of preventing this, as the venue have strict rules about when people have to be out and when power/internet will be cut.
what the fuck
2010-07-31 11:15:08
Chinese gov can find you.
You know what i mean.
You know what i mean.
2010-07-31 11:54:53
i never said anything abt chinese govt..
so they won't :)))
so they won't :)))
2010-07-31 11:58:38
Chinajoy is a big event.It not just has IEM5.
There are tens of thousands of people and dozens of gaming companys everyday.
Close at 5pm everyday,which is stipulate.
I hope everyone can keep calm.
and China is a great country.
There are tens of thousands of people and dozens of gaming companys everyday.
Close at 5pm everyday,which is stipulate.
I hope everyone can keep calm.
and China is a great country.
2010-07-31 20:45:32
China is a great country..
but i already know that...
seriously i mean i just commented on the situation , not on anyone in person so dont know what is the problem here with some ppl.
but i already know that...
seriously i mean i just commented on the situation , not on anyone in person so dont know what is the problem here with some ppl.
2010-07-31 21:32:28
fnatic
2010-07-31 11:15:36
OMG
Okay they play 2 maps a day and they can't even finish the 2nd one?!?!
Post edited 2010-07-31 11:19:30
Okay they play 2 maps a day and they can't even finish the 2nd one?!?!
Post edited 2010-07-31 11:19:30
2010-07-31 11:15:37
markeloff
2010-07-31 11:15:47
OMG !
2010-07-31 11:16:19
omfg...
2010-07-31 11:16:49
LOL!~
2010-07-31 11:17:44
WTF? i cant see match (
2010-07-31 11:17:52
And wth do they need to play all matches so early? I mean its early even in China.
Does the Chinese government not allow electricity to be used in the afternoon or wtf?
Does the Chinese government not allow electricity to be used in the afternoon or wtf?
2010-07-31 11:18:52
:D
Everyone include ourselves hate the Chinese government. But this really has nothing to do with the govern.
Everyone include ourselves hate the Chinese government. But this really has nothing to do with the govern.
2010-07-31 14:50:28
turn on the laptops en let's go xD
2010-07-31 11:18:54
+1
2010-07-31 11:28:08
but still no internet. you won't be able to spectate. =P
2010-07-31 11:30:50
They havent sattelite connection? How they are poor =)
2010-07-31 22:06:26
HAHA n1ce n4ps
2010-07-31 11:21:08
ok first this is shit and second the damn time you have to stay 2:30 when the 3rd map starts and then the final at 7:00 immposible ..:@
2010-07-31 11:21:31
Goooo! f0resttt!!!
2010-07-31 11:22:37
@_@
2010-07-31 11:23:00
so how many hours is that from now?
2010-07-31 11:25:18
The teams have to show up at 08:30local time (02:30CET)
now you got 11:30 CET, so 15h
now you got 11:30 CET, so 15h
2010-07-31 11:27:23
02:30CET (europe time) 3rd map fnatic vs navi will start
and 7:00 (europe time ) will start the final
4:00 (europe time ) 3rd place match
Post edited 2010-07-31 11:28:02
and 7:00 (europe time ) will start the final
4:00 (europe time ) 3rd place match
Post edited 2010-07-31 11:28:02
2010-07-31 11:27:38
Fuck all of you IEM staff
2010-07-31 11:25:39
+1 HLTV
2010-07-31 11:47:46
No what did we do?
2010-07-31 12:08:22
You forgot to take electric generators and wireless Internet connection with you :). Seriously these peoples are over reacting every country havs there rules and every individual in that country whether national or non national has to obey it.
Don't know why these peoples over reacting so much?
But you guys are doing awesome work keep it up thanks for covering so many events for us.
Don't know why these peoples over reacting so much?
But you guys are doing awesome work keep it up thanks for covering so many events for us.
2010-07-31 12:26:15
People will always find something to whine about, that is just how it is.
2010-07-31 12:27:39
lol, true.
even if the match isnt postponed, ppl would still flame each other about whos winning and whos losing :D
Anyway, China or chinese ppl doesnt deserve your flaming here. If you want to blame, just blame the Event organizers who's not prepared for something like this.
looks like racism already becomes a habit for many peoples here, thats just sad :[
even if the match isnt postponed, ppl would still flame each other about whos winning and whos losing :D
Anyway, China or chinese ppl doesnt deserve your flaming here. If you want to blame, just blame the Event organizers who's not prepared for something like this.
looks like racism already becomes a habit for many peoples here, thats just sad :[
2010-07-31 14:17:56
You are right.
No one but the orgnizer is to blame.
They just need to stop insulting each other and calm down.
No one but the orgnizer is to blame.
They just need to stop insulting each other and calm down.
2010-07-31 15:06:34
why do they even have to cut down internet? goverment rules or what?
2010-07-31 11:26:37
3:30 in ukraine (((((
2010-07-31 11:27:13
get like 10 cup of coffees maybe you won`t sleep while watching the match :(
2010-07-31 11:30:12
na'vi are safe for one more day
2010-07-31 11:30:46
I think this is in favor of Navi.
2010-07-31 11:32:59
Currently everything that happend today favours Navi:
- Map choice
- Starting sides
- starix computer shuts down when fnatic is having momentum.
- The whole match gets postponed while fnatic is having momentum.
- Map choice
- Starting sides
- starix computer shuts down when fnatic is having momentum.
- The whole match gets postponed while fnatic is having momentum.
2010-07-31 11:43:46
The first 2 points don't really count - the maps weren't chosen randomly. And the sides were decided by knives round.
But yes, fnatic were cruising to victory in the overtime.
But yes, fnatic were cruising to victory in the overtime.
2010-07-31 11:49:11
this theory though provoking like all other conspiracy theories, is NOT true.
How sweet! :)
How sweet! :)
2010-07-31 12:21:09
It's not a theory but a fact
2010-07-31 12:49:40
Ah I read again...if you are stating them to show that Navi were probably lucky with this, then maybeeee you are right.
But if you want to say that some of it was deliberately done, then you are wrong. Very wrong.
Post edited 2010-07-31 12:55:55
But if you want to say that some of it was deliberately done, then you are wrong. Very wrong.
Post edited 2010-07-31 12:55:55
2010-07-31 12:53:14
how the fuck am i supposed to wake up at 5am in the morning??
:'( :'(
:'( :'(
2010-07-31 11:32:31
We Chinese also watch the game held in Europe after midnight.
We had to watch World Cup 2010 at 2 A.M.
WTF
Why the Earth is like a ball.
We had to watch World Cup 2010 at 2 A.M.
WTF
Why the Earth is like a ball.
2010-07-31 11:32:42
There are 2 Chinese teams. And there are 20 European teams.
2010-07-31 11:33:41
talk about audiences and fans, not teams. You think these teams have no fans in this part of the world?
2010-07-31 12:22:06
Alright, but there's good time for both Chinese and European audience. So what is the problem?
Post edited 2010-07-31 13:04:17
Post edited 2010-07-31 13:04:17
2010-07-31 13:03:34
Don't you think they would have thought of that? They also want to reach to as many people as possible. Why would they deliberately place it in a time slot where a good number of us can't watch it? There must be a good reason for the current schedule.
I hope this answers it :)
I hope this answers it :)
2010-07-31 13:07:19
How could that answer it if you just posted bunch of questions? ;)
Well it looks exactly like that - they didn't think about it. They made a bad schedule and that's it...
Well it looks exactly like that - they didn't think about it. They made a bad schedule and that's it...
2010-07-31 13:47:59
I am guessing they were running on a tight schedule and that starix delay led to this...it was almost half hour if I am not wrong...
2010-07-31 13:53:56
Well Tyloo vs Tyloo.Raw was played at 4:00 CET. And fnatic Navi started 8:30. They shouldn't have made such a big gap between matches.
And now, either fnatic or Navi, tomorrow will have to come to play 1 map, then go back to hotel, and then, several hours later, come back to play the final.
And now, either fnatic or Navi, tomorrow will have to come to play 1 map, then go back to hotel, and then, several hours later, come back to play the final.
2010-07-31 14:25:38
hmm you are right. Well only they know what they are doing. We can only guess sitting so far away.
btw this thread is just ridiculous. Can't believe what's going on...
btw this thread is just ridiculous. Can't believe what's going on...
2010-07-31 14:28:28
the problem is that then USA's time will be bad for the matches.. nah JK but yes they actually always were NaVi fnatic started at 2:30 yesterday and today it will start for us at 20:30. What a great time!!! <3 intel!
2010-07-31 23:10:46
thats true...20 00 CET games are like 5am in australia.
2010-07-31 11:39:54
12 in the afternoon are the matches here, 7 in the evening were the world cup. 10 in the night is all european tourneys. lifes good. :D . Oh i forgot , BAD INTERNET!!!!
2010-07-31 11:46:04
Agree with you. So many times we watch matches at like 12-3 (even later a lot of times) in the night. World is big and any time you host an event, some part of the world is going to find it uncomfortable with respect to timings. There are huge audiences on both sides of the globe.
People saying "fuck china" need to get a life. I don't see people from this part of the world doing the same when timings are bad for them.
People saying "fuck china" need to get a life. I don't see people from this part of the world doing the same when timings are bad for them.
2010-07-31 12:15:07
Cutting power and Internet? Can somebody explain it to me? Wtf, China?
2010-07-31 11:33:37
man, just forward to this link
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_crisis_of_2007%E2%80%932010
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_crisis_of_2007%E2%80%932010
2010-07-31 11:35:53
It's 17:20 in Shanghai when they Finished the 2nd map.
Maybe they want have dinner.
We'll watch the final games on Sunday morning
European have to watch it at 2or3 AM.
wahtever... it will be Sunday morning
Maybe they want have dinner.
We'll watch the final games on Sunday morning
European have to watch it at 2or3 AM.
wahtever... it will be Sunday morning
2010-07-31 11:43:43
but 5 A.M. @ Moscow :)))
and 4 A.M. in Ukraine :))
Post edited 2010-07-31 11:51:01
and 4 A.M. in Ukraine :))
Post edited 2010-07-31 11:51:01
2010-07-31 11:50:02
This is not about when the game is played, who cares if the game is shown in the middle of the night. This is about stopping a game in the middle of it, and postpone it to the next day. You just don't do that. Tomorrow the game and the players' state of mind will be totally different. Where is the sportsmanship?
2010-07-31 11:55:57
well it cant be helped, since thats the venue's rules [once again, its not a government rules. the chinese government has nothing to do with it.]
its not anybody's fault, its just the event organizer is not prepared for this.
correct me if im wrong :)
its not anybody's fault, its just the event organizer is not prepared for this.
correct me if im wrong :)
2010-07-31 14:29:01
true but I doubt people are willing to understand it..they seem more interested in the flame wars ^^
2010-07-31 14:39:05
I was in a eternal dylema between: 1- see IEM's final; or 2- keep on downloading a game.
:D
Post edited 2010-07-31 11:36:52
:D
Post edited 2010-07-31 11:36:52
2010-07-31 11:36:30
"It is important to note that ESL had no way of preventing this"
You can't expect a BO3 match to finish in 2 hours. They should have either started it earlier or postponed it to sunday. In my eyes this is not just unluck but incompetence by ESL
You can't expect a BO3 match to finish in 2 hours. They should have either started it earlier or postponed it to sunday. In my eyes this is not just unluck but incompetence by ESL
2010-07-31 11:38:47
Looks like i have to stay awake all night long until tomorrow morning if i want to see the 3rd map + final which ofc is no problem:D
2010-07-31 11:44:26
it is incompetence by ESL!!!! Boooooooooooo!
2010-07-31 11:45:04
=/
2010-07-31 11:45:33
LOOL,and what the fuck i have to do now?To wake up at 3:00 AM to change the dreamteam for the final...that sucks fuck you stupid chinese
2010-07-31 11:46:14
isnt china supposed to be super rich country?
2010-07-31 11:46:44
I guess the richness isn't fairly distributed amongst its inhabitants.
2010-07-31 11:51:19
what has richness of a country got to do with this?
God...do you even think before posting things like this?
God...do you even think before posting things like this?
2010-07-31 12:37:34
k. i now give you 24 hours to make sense of my post. if you dont. please do NOT reply as "duh!" , "oh fuck" or anything. its an international perception that indians are smart. dont ruin it.
if you do get it , :).
if you do get it , :).
2010-07-31 15:56:09
24 hours?
If there is some play on words like "poor"... well I didn't get it earlier. If it was something else, you are smart. Great.
And I am not your tard bro. I am not even your bro. Thank you :)
Post edited 2010-07-31 16:08:27
If there is some play on words like "poor"... well I didn't get it earlier. If it was something else, you are smart. Great.
And I am not your tard bro. I am not even your bro. Thank you :)
Post edited 2010-07-31 16:08:27
2010-07-31 16:06:10
you are actually right. frankly i dont give a monkey shit who you are too.
its as basic as it is. its common knowledge that china is the largest growing democracy. its common knowledge that the one of the richest countries has enough electricity resources for important cities like shanghai. power outages on an expo is something wierd.
p.s. google it, china is the electronics capital of the world.
like i said dnt reply dumb! , you did, now dont reply dumb to this too!, when did blonds surface in india.
its as basic as it is. its common knowledge that china is the largest growing democracy. its common knowledge that the one of the richest countries has enough electricity resources for important cities like shanghai. power outages on an expo is something wierd.
p.s. google it, china is the electronics capital of the world.
like i said dnt reply dumb! , you did, now dont reply dumb to this too!, when did blonds surface in india.
2010-07-31 23:25:42
You think you are so smart and then you talk about power outages in China. Like I said earlier, did you even bother to know all the facts? I thought you understood the situation and were only punning on that word rich. But guess what....you are dumber than I thought.
This was NOT a power outage. ChinaJoy expo has fixed closing times and every event happening inside it has to follow it like IEM5. Organisers knew before hand that power and internet won't be available after a certain time. There is nothing so unexpected or bizarre about it.
Whether you give monkey shit or not, let me point it out that you are indeed dumb. China is the world's largest growing democracy? Are you kidding me?
You missed too many lessons. That's why you shouldn't sleep in classes.
This was NOT a power outage. ChinaJoy expo has fixed closing times and every event happening inside it has to follow it like IEM5. Organisers knew before hand that power and internet won't be available after a certain time. There is nothing so unexpected or bizarre about it.
Whether you give monkey shit or not, let me point it out that you are indeed dumb. China is the world's largest growing democracy? Are you kidding me?
You missed too many lessons. That's why you shouldn't sleep in classes.
2010-08-01 08:50:15
I was gonna ask the same thing as calam1ty did.
Im not that smart, so could you explain it to me?
Im not that smart, so could you explain it to me?
2010-07-31 17:06:22
no dude! , how weird would a power cut at NY be? being that it is such an high profile city. shanghai is similar for china, and power outages for that seems unreal. power savings are usually done by the poor countries, not by the rich.
2010-07-31 23:27:22
No one is saying about power outage or blackout here, mate.
You've just misunderstood some comment from random troll and china haters.
The venues[ChinaJoy] already has a schedule, and the third map of this match is running out of time to be played. [Blame IEM for making the match start late]
And since there's nobody supposed to be in the venues after the schedule is off, thats why they're gonna cut the electricity.
Just for your information, IEM event isnt the only event that held in ChinaJoy, So thats why they must follow the rules.
So thats really funny if there's someone who think that the chinese government setting a limit for using any electricity power, since we all must be already know that china has the world largest electricity-generating plant @three gorges dam :p.
You've just misunderstood some comment from random troll and china haters.
The venues[ChinaJoy] already has a schedule, and the third map of this match is running out of time to be played. [Blame IEM for making the match start late]
And since there's nobody supposed to be in the venues after the schedule is off, thats why they're gonna cut the electricity.
Just for your information, IEM event isnt the only event that held in ChinaJoy, So thats why they must follow the rules.
So thats really funny if there's someone who think that the chinese government setting a limit for using any electricity power, since we all must be already know that china has the world largest electricity-generating plant @three gorges dam :p.
2010-08-01 00:08:43
can some chinese dude explain me why internet and power are cutting down?
2010-07-31 11:46:59
lol,it's just the rules for the ChinaJoy expo,just like a close time for any stores,markets,etc.
And IEM is held In the ChinaJoy,so when chinajoy closes,IEM has to be closed.
And IEM is held In the ChinaJoy,so when chinajoy closes,IEM has to be closed.
2010-07-31 11:53:28
2:30 oclock wtf, lucky its weekend :)
2010-07-31 11:48:13
what about dreamteam?:<
2010-07-31 11:48:34
That is just sad...
Internet and electricity are like food and water these days, I don't know y organizers couldn't arrange for them.
If I was WMF or Tyloo, and it was my home event, I would have let the play continue, even if it meant bearing the expenses by ourselves.
Just doesn't speaks well for the country
Internet and electricity are like food and water these days, I don't know y organizers couldn't arrange for them.
If I was WMF or Tyloo, and it was my home event, I would have let the play continue, even if it meant bearing the expenses by ourselves.
Just doesn't speaks well for the country
2010-07-31 11:48:57
you are right.
2010-07-31 11:55:51
From what I understand its not about the costs. It has to do with the fact that ChinaJoy has fixed closing times and IEM, which is held inside ChinaJoy, also has to obey these timings.
Its not about organisers or the government or the teams.
If you took some time out to read what Chinese guys are writing here, you would understand.
Its not about organisers or the government or the teams.
If you took some time out to read what Chinese guys are writing here, you would understand.
2010-07-31 12:41:05
1 chinese dude agrees with me :)
2010-07-31 16:50:45
lots of "different" chinese guys here..a lot of them smart and some .... :P
2010-07-31 17:01:11
lol,what about me:D i have been a regualar daily hltv.org visitor for ages and this time,i just feel like i have something to say,so i login and said what i've said at #129.
So, chinajoy is such a huge expo,including EA,Blizzard,etc,those companies are showing their best & leatest stuffs on this event,compare to this,this whole event can not leave the door and internet open JUST FOR the IEM.and there's a good reason to close this event at 17:00(local time).it's wasn't too early,right? But anyways,i just thought this math shoul started a bit earlier. We are the first witness to this kinda of "amazing" bo2-bo1 game:D
So, chinajoy is such a huge expo,including EA,Blizzard,etc,those companies are showing their best & leatest stuffs on this event,compare to this,this whole event can not leave the door and internet open JUST FOR the IEM.and there's a good reason to close this event at 17:00(local time).it's wasn't too early,right? But anyways,i just thought this math shoul started a bit earlier. We are the first witness to this kinda of "amazing" bo2-bo1 game:D
2010-08-01 00:32:57
Im pretty sure that you replied to the wrong guy :p
calam1ty did explain the same thing as you to the person above him.
Post edited 2010-08-01 00:37:49
calam1ty did explain the same thing as you to the person above him.
Post edited 2010-08-01 00:37:49
2010-08-01 00:36:40
the 3rd map will be with hltv????
please we love hltv iven with lag
please we love hltv iven with lag
2010-07-31 11:49:03
china is a piece of miraculous land, nothing is impossible.
2010-07-31 11:53:36
It's 17:20 in Shanghai when they Finished the 2nd map.
Maybe they want have dinner.
i agree this
and when the game in Europ ,we watch the game at 2:00am or 3:00am .
don't speak anymore about china .
Maybe they want have dinner.
i agree this
and when the game in Europ ,we watch the game at 2:00am or 3:00am .
don't speak anymore about china .
2010-07-31 11:53:52
its not about when the games start, its about postponing the match which is stupid :P
2010-07-31 12:09:02
what time does the third map start American cst?
sorry if i missed something
sorry if i missed something
2010-07-31 11:55:06
about 21:00 USA time
2010-07-31 11:58:30
8pm or 9pm
it depends on where you live in US
ok. US CST is UTC-6.
ChinaStandordTime Zone is UTC/GMT +8 noDaylightSavingTime
Post edited 2010-07-31 12:10:43
it depends on where you live in US
ok. US CST is UTC-6.
ChinaStandordTime Zone is UTC/GMT +8 noDaylightSavingTime
Post edited 2010-07-31 12:10:43
2010-07-31 12:01:30
thnx guys
2010-07-31 12:23:31
chinese event = big joke
wtf!!
wtf!!
2010-07-31 12:01:15
This is Earth sorry chine 17:20pm. Europ 2:00am or 3:00am. thats normal ;// but no comfortable for ppl from europ :((
2010-07-31 12:06:20
Heres an idea for ESL..
Hire Russell Peters for commentating on Asian events...That would be a laugh riot.
Will help get more ads :P
Hire Russell Peters for commentating on Asian events...That would be a laugh riot.
Will help get more ads :P
2010-07-31 12:06:41
any available demos from the match ? please give me a link = THX
2010-07-31 12:06:49
i wanna tell you that the third map will start at 9:00local time it means EU is 03:00am ^^ not 08:30.
2010-07-31 12:15:48
Too bad i won't see it now. Anyways, i like watching Counter-Strike all night long lol
2010-07-31 12:18:59
lmao rofl lol etc..
2010-07-31 12:20:11
thats nice
Post edited 2010-07-31 12:24:59
Post edited 2010-07-31 12:24:59
2010-07-31 12:23:30
The schedule is insane. China is GMT +8 right? They could set the final early in the morning there so we in Europe could watch it at 01, 02, or 03 and it would be a good schedule for americans too.
2010-07-31 12:43:00
you get it
2010-07-31 12:47:39
You won´t please anyone. There will be always something to whine about.
2010-07-31 12:54:29
If you can´t host such events, then don´t do this, for fucks sake! It´s really annoying.
2010-07-31 12:53:49
Chinese government got intel about spy activities in venue xDD Shut down everything and go exterminate democrat people... loool
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxymwN7nYQQ
Post edited 2010-07-31 12:58:43
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxymwN7nYQQ
Post edited 2010-07-31 12:58:43
2010-07-31 12:55:36
The amount of idiocy in this thread is mind boggling.
Feel free to use it as the new slogan.
Feel free to use it as the new slogan.
2010-07-31 13:01:50
lol? what kind of country is that.
2010-07-31 13:05:02
where people only have limited freedom :(.
2010-07-31 13:10:51
that's why ur so mad about any critisism? or most of the ch. users are under 16 years old... for a long time I haven't seen such an aggresive attitude on hltv...
2010-07-31 16:48:27
how about a flame war which is always happened before clash of the titans? :p
Its so simple mate, there are trolls everywhere and China is no exception. Why must we take that trolls comment seriously? That would make us even dumber than those idiot, isnt it? :)
Its so simple mate, there are trolls everywhere and China is no exception. Why must we take that trolls comment seriously? That would make us even dumber than those idiot, isnt it? :)
2010-07-31 23:37:14
This has nothing to do with China at all. The expo has a set closing time that they knew about before arranging this event, the match just lasted longer than expected so the venue closed down before the third map could be played.
2010-07-31 13:11:35
What about dreamteam Market will it be opened or not?
2010-07-31 13:11:37
i love china but not the gov.
Chinese gov make me feel disappointed.
Chinese gov make me feel disappointed.
2010-07-31 13:13:11
i love china but not the gov.
Chinese gov makes me feel disappointed.
Chinese gov makes me feel disappointed.
2010-07-31 13:13:16
LoL really? DID they Cut your internet and Electricity also?
DUDE at least rules are followed in your country in other countries like mine we are addicted for trespassing rules its not the govt you have to blame at least they are making you world most powerful country and for Esport you saying they make you disappointing :D.
DUDE at least rules are followed in your country in other countries like mine we are addicted for trespassing rules its not the govt you have to blame at least they are making you world most powerful country and for Esport you saying they make you disappointing :D.
2010-07-31 13:19:26
NaVi and fnatic can have a good rest for a big match tomorrow
2010-07-31 13:13:48
chinese brutality
http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=http%3A//www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DtnYF2mGAQ_g
http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=http%3A//www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DtnYF2mGAQ_g
2010-07-31 13:16:08
chinese gov plz.
not chinese
not chinese
2010-07-31 13:21:14
Any country has just like yours, u don't know just because your gov masks them.
2010-07-31 13:22:43
+1
2010-07-31 13:24:02
Don't you feel disadvantaged for facebook and/or googl banned in your country? Isn't that is the for same purpose Interet shutting down there? it sucks
2010-07-31 13:41:20
I am guessing they have their own search engine (Baidu), own social networking sites and their own IMs (QQ)....which comply with their government.
I don't support banning any of these websites in any form but really who is disadvantaged by not being on facebook? :) :D
I don't support banning any of these websites in any form but really who is disadvantaged by not being on facebook? :) :D
2010-07-31 13:51:10
ofcource they have, im not idiot. But the feeling must be. You always want that the others have.
2010-07-31 14:02:08
yeah true in some ways. For now they have to live with it. With the kind of progress they are having, I doubt they are going to go against government for this.
2010-07-31 14:05:46
where are the admins ??? nomad ? jonathan ? so many reatrded posts and spam in this thread, delete offensive posts and ban that cMan_cn guy already please
2010-07-31 13:29:50
cman guy is really angry lol :D just spamming all over the place.
2010-07-31 14:00:53
I'd almost forgotten why I hated Chinese tournaments. They're always the slowest, this entire event should've only taken two days at the most.
2010-07-31 13:30:17
Enjoy the course, why are you always struggling for work just like Japanese? Many funny things in China if you spare some time to find.
2010-07-31 13:38:26
umm, what?
2010-07-31 21:02:19
a scenery in china is indeed one of the best in the world :p
I would like to travel to china someday.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiuzhaigou_Valley
I would like to travel to china someday.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiuzhaigou_Valley
2010-07-31 23:31:29
You all blame China and noone mentioned their hot girls all around the event. That's a serious + imo. :>
2010-07-31 13:34:59
only sane comment in this thread lol :D
2010-07-31 13:59:16
well calm down,let's stop making childish comments.
enjoy the match. anyhow we like this game.
enjoy the match. anyhow we like this game.
2010-07-31 13:35:15
Chineese Inet sucks 8(. No offence to people, but its Government is like in North Korea imo.
2010-07-31 13:35:45
u are so naive. If just like Northe Korea, I could not have the chance to reply to your silly comment here.
2010-07-31 13:40:18
you gonna to know that IEM chose hold the match on the chinajoy,the expo has a set closing time that they knew about before arranging this event.so don't relate IEM to the china government ok?
2010-07-31 13:43:13
Its a shame that match will be postponed to next day. I bet this will affect fnatic more than Na`Vi. Just like in WCG 09 when they needed to leave the stage after first map in Grand Finals.
2010-07-31 13:53:18
i was reading the topic and i think its just funny reading what ppl write : fuck you , fuck china , fuck your family... this is epic guys comon everything just for a game getting delay
comon guys every country has got their own problems , dont tell me that ur country is perfect cause thats a bullshit , so just respect their habit..
i guess that this guys that are saying fuck china never played in a shitty i-net university in which every 3 minutes u get dropped from the i-net , just try it out and then talk..
comon guys every country has got their own problems , dont tell me that ur country is perfect cause thats a bullshit , so just respect their habit..
i guess that this guys that are saying fuck china never played in a shitty i-net university in which every 3 minutes u get dropped from the i-net , just try it out and then talk..
2010-07-31 14:02:07
Agree man.
This thread began with a huge amount of "fuck china" comments and then I guess all the Chinese decided to respond in big numbers :)
The issue is clearly explained in HLTV article but I don't think people read it before commenting. They just want to blame China and write every idiotic thing they have heard about it.
and then people like cman_cn...replying to all comments..only aggravating the problem...
don't know when this will stop...
This thread began with a huge amount of "fuck china" comments and then I guess all the Chinese decided to respond in big numbers :)
The issue is clearly explained in HLTV article but I don't think people read it before commenting. They just want to blame China and write every idiotic thing they have heard about it.
and then people like cman_cn...replying to all comments..only aggravating the problem...
don't know when this will stop...
2010-07-31 14:10:59
omg!
is that the hltv.org I ever know?
it looks like a psychiatric hospital.
nice,i learnt a lot of new cheap shots.
If I still in school,my teacher will be proud of me!
Post edited 2010-07-31 14:07:30
is that the hltv.org I ever know?
it looks like a psychiatric hospital.
nice,i learnt a lot of new cheap shots.
If I still in school,my teacher will be proud of me!
Post edited 2010-07-31 14:07:30
2010-07-31 14:06:59
China is a great country
I am proud of our country
Post edited 2010-07-31 14:15:00
I am proud of our country
Post edited 2010-07-31 14:15:00
2010-07-31 14:09:17
wow never seen so much rage in a thread before , however whats the deal china you have internet and power surge curfew ?
2010-07-31 14:22:03
You can express views But do not involve state! right?
2010-07-31 14:28:30
whats going on! everybody just relax and calm down! poicy is policy. e-sport competition is just very small part of the ChinaJoy event.
so the organizer close whenever it wants.
so the organizer close whenever it wants.
2010-07-31 14:31:14
that's true. very appreciate your understanding
2010-07-31 14:40:38
True..
2010-07-31 18:06:38
ive just realized this, whose demos are tyloo raw gona study tonight? they duno who they will face yet :p:p:p:p very unfortunate
2010-07-31 14:38:09
no need to study!
they gonna lose anyway! :p
they gonna lose anyway! :p
2010-07-31 14:42:18
it depends on xiaoe and savage.
2010-07-31 14:43:23
Well I'm happy, I missed the first two maps cus I was sleeping :P
2010-07-31 15:01:57
but you didn't miss the drama...lucky you :D
2010-07-31 15:03:58
bah it's always about those countrys, isn't it. yes, i am talking to the guys above me who i whining about chineese guys. ye, and omg shit swedish fanboys sucks omg polish guys, u are the worst. and romanians, LOL fuckers. i hate you japaneese. fuck u americans.
where does it end? i mean.. cmon. use ur brains, and if you want to attack someone verbally, alteast do it to that person, and stop going into countrys. it's foolish, cause it's not about that. at all
where does it end? i mean.. cmon. use ur brains, and if you want to attack someone verbally, alteast do it to that person, and stop going into countrys. it's foolish, cause it's not about that. at all
2010-07-31 15:11:09
how retarded can u ppl be?
its not good that they postponed the match. and for all you retards, PC wont open without electricity.
if its too early, just dont watch it (u wont die, seriously) and stop complaining and flaming china.
would it be better if that tournament wouldnt exist? (whoever answers "yes" is still kid, sry)
at least we get to see chinas talent.
ohh and grow up kids o_O
its not good that they postponed the match. and for all you retards, PC wont open without electricity.
if its too early, just dont watch it (u wont die, seriously) and stop complaining and flaming china.
would it be better if that tournament wouldnt exist? (whoever answers "yes" is still kid, sry)
at least we get to see chinas talent.
ohh and grow up kids o_O
2010-07-31 15:12:46
+1
2010-07-31 15:17:13
We come here for CS not for wrangle . So please just stop the crap , all you angry people.
2010-07-31 15:14:13
i miss this match at that moment.so i'm happy to see it after some hours ago.fnatic ,na vi g1111111111111 cyx g1111111111111111
2010-07-31 15:15:04
so many haters...lol
please note that this event is held in the exhibition centre, it's not open in the evening due to security or something..
please note that this event is held in the exhibition centre, it's not open in the evening due to security or something..
2010-07-31 15:16:07
at what ip can i see the match of the fnatic vs navi.. pls reply me some one :)
2010-07-31 15:19:21
tomorrow match will build hltv probably
2010-07-31 15:24:04
you sure?
Nix says final and 3rd place match would be covered by stream not HLTV.
that would be nice if zotob's covering the match with their HLTV, though it would be laggy as hell :[
Nix says final and 3rd place match would be covered by stream not HLTV.
that would be nice if zotob's covering the match with their HLTV, though it would be laggy as hell :[
2010-07-31 15:36:03
not very sure
it is a news from china
it is a news from china
2010-07-31 15:45:24
say you two , you are one egg .
no explain .
no explain .
2010-07-31 15:36:52
ok, no need to comment this one.
Since he himself doesnt know whats he talking about. :D
No offense to Chinese people, if u dont understand what i mean. :)
Since he himself doesnt know whats he talking about. :D
No offense to Chinese people, if u dont understand what i mean. :)
2010-07-31 15:50:24
no ,he know what he said,but u dont :D
2010-07-31 16:13:52
Ah, you're right. My bad :DDDD
2010-07-31 16:38:56
lol lol.
2010-07-31 15:38:01
No abuse, communicate in peace.
Those who want to quarrel, your mother call u back for dinner.
Chinese slang, no explain.
Those who want to quarrel, your mother call u back for dinner.
Chinese slang, no explain.
2010-07-31 16:01:36
i was reading the first 3-4 comments from Chinese ppl and i was like wtf?! why are they all flaming?
2010-07-31 16:07:33
Hello everyone,
I think most of you here should take a few deep breaths and chill out. There are glaring misconceptions about the event here:
1) China has nothing to do with the matter, not the people, not the government. The ChinaJoy show closes at 17:00 for the public and the halls need to be empty at 17:30. Around that time they shut down power and Internet since no one is supposed to be there.
2) Normally at ESL events the show organiser allows us to stay past closing time and finish the matches. You don't notice those things if you don't show up to an event. Event delays are a very normal occurrence (ask Nixon).
3) Next to Counter-Strike there is a DotA and a Warcraft 3 Global Challenge. CS is not isolated with its own schedule because it shares the big screen presence with the other two games.
Na'Vi and Fnatic started a little bit behind schedule and dragged on a little longer due to a Na'Vi player's PC problem and the overtime.
4) Except for the bad time of the match for the Europeans, I do not see what the complaining is about. Matches can be played over more than one day in many sports.
In 2005 Real Madrid under coach Wanderlei Luxemburgo had a match against Real Sociedad San Sebastian which was interrupted by a stadium lights failure. They played out the remaining 6 minutes of so of the game on another day (and scored the needed goal to win 2-1).
It is commonplace in Grand Slam tennis competitions for matches to take place over two days. Last Wimbledon there was a match played over three days.
Of course this is very uncommon, but other than the 3rd map being played in the middle of the night for Europeans there is nothing to complain about.
Be positive, guys!
- Carmac, Intel Extreme Masters Product Manager
I think most of you here should take a few deep breaths and chill out. There are glaring misconceptions about the event here:
1) China has nothing to do with the matter, not the people, not the government. The ChinaJoy show closes at 17:00 for the public and the halls need to be empty at 17:30. Around that time they shut down power and Internet since no one is supposed to be there.
2) Normally at ESL events the show organiser allows us to stay past closing time and finish the matches. You don't notice those things if you don't show up to an event. Event delays are a very normal occurrence (ask Nixon).
3) Next to Counter-Strike there is a DotA and a Warcraft 3 Global Challenge. CS is not isolated with its own schedule because it shares the big screen presence with the other two games.
Na'Vi and Fnatic started a little bit behind schedule and dragged on a little longer due to a Na'Vi player's PC problem and the overtime.
4) Except for the bad time of the match for the Europeans, I do not see what the complaining is about. Matches can be played over more than one day in many sports.
In 2005 Real Madrid under coach Wanderlei Luxemburgo had a match against Real Sociedad San Sebastian which was interrupted by a stadium lights failure. They played out the remaining 6 minutes of so of the game on another day (and scored the needed goal to win 2-1).
It is commonplace in Grand Slam tennis competitions for matches to take place over two days. Last Wimbledon there was a match played over three days.
Of course this is very uncommon, but other than the 3rd map being played in the middle of the night for Europeans there is nothing to complain about.
Be positive, guys!
- Carmac, Intel Extreme Masters Product Manager
2010-07-31 16:15:43
every negative post after Carmac's is considered a troll post. :)
2010-07-31 16:26:37
stop cussing,
please!
some Chinese,we are not the enemy of the world..
Lots of foreign friends(we all friends here)had a very deep misunderstanding about China,Chinese and our government.we do not want to be enemies with any people from any country in the world.we really shoud sitting around at one table,laughing and chatting,to eliminate all those misunderstandings.
(my English is not very outstanding,i hope foreign friends could point out my mistakes in grammar,thank you~^ ^)
please!
some Chinese,we are not the enemy of the world..
Lots of foreign friends(we all friends here)had a very deep misunderstanding about China,Chinese and our government.we do not want to be enemies with any people from any country in the world.we really shoud sitting around at one table,laughing and chatting,to eliminate all those misunderstandings.
(my English is not very outstanding,i hope foreign friends could point out my mistakes in grammar,thank you~^ ^)
2010-07-31 16:34:46
stop fucking,xie xie.the venue which cut power and internet is a convention center,its called ChinaJoy, as CeBIT in Germany.not china not chinese not chinese gov...
2010-07-31 16:37:59
stop cussing,
please!
some Chinese,we are not the enemy of the world..
Lots of foreign friends(we all friends here)had a very deep misunderstanding about China,Chinese and our government.we do not want to be enemies with any people from any country in the world.we really shoud sitting around at one table,laughing and chatting,to eliminate all those misunderstandings.Although it's very hard for us to get together.
(my English is not very outstanding,i hope foreign friends could point out my mistakes in grammar,thank you~^ ^)
please!
some Chinese,we are not the enemy of the world..
Lots of foreign friends(we all friends here)had a very deep misunderstanding about China,Chinese and our government.we do not want to be enemies with any people from any country in the world.we really shoud sitting around at one table,laughing and chatting,to eliminate all those misunderstandings.Although it's very hard for us to get together.
(my English is not very outstanding,i hope foreign friends could point out my mistakes in grammar,thank you~^ ^)
2010-07-31 16:38:03
so ashamed to see some retarded ppl from my country talking nothing but cr*p. please ignore their rudeness, but stop hurling insult at all Chinese/Asian people or my country.
Post edited 2010-07-31 16:49:51
Post edited 2010-07-31 16:49:51
2010-07-31 16:44:52
Whats wrong being ASIAN ?
2010-07-31 17:11:03
Weird shiznit:s
2010-07-31 17:29:34
good that its postponed may wateva b the reason but damnnn..
we want fckin hltv :/
streamin is shit !!
we want fckin hltv :/
streamin is shit !!
2010-07-31 17:36:02
to bad there is a huge time diference...
and stop bothering the Chinese fellas... They have nothing to do with the internet shut down..
and yeah, please flame my comment with stupid and retarded answers as:
"your english sucks"
"you suck"
"chinese people suck"
"chinese are fucked up"
"..."
and Chinese people, stop making rude comments, you're making your country look even worse than it is...
Tyvm
and stop bothering the Chinese fellas... They have nothing to do with the internet shut down..
and yeah, please flame my comment with stupid and retarded answers as:
"your english sucks"
"you suck"
"chinese people suck"
"chinese are fucked up"
"..."
and Chinese people, stop making rude comments, you're making your country look even worse than it is...
Tyvm
2010-07-31 17:38:45
What makes you think China is a worse country compared to whichever country you think is better?
2010-07-31 17:45:40
i think that may be you r chinese, because your nickname likes your chinese name in pingyin aright? haha here is shenzhen.
2010-07-31 17:50:27
u r right,but there is too many people in our country.
whatever i agree with you.
whatever i agree with you.
2010-07-31 17:47:54
Every country has its own stupid and foolish people... I have known that for long time... but.. reading all this bullshits makes the things clearer... yeah there will be a third world war.. just right than when these agressive and foolish people gets outnumberd.. anyway enjoy your life as long as you can..
2010-07-31 18:12:25
The war won't happen cause they just know how to say it but barely do it.
2010-07-31 18:18:42
Nothing shut up and play CS
2010-07-31 18:15:51
what a shame!!!when i see the comments above posted by those chinese "fenqing"s who never say a word other than "fxxk" or "sucker" etc...
obviously,those dirty words are the only english words they've ever learned from school.
it's not funny at all to fuck each other here.
stop being such retared boys,go take a shower,it's 12 a.m. now,time to sleep...
obviously,those dirty words are the only english words they've ever learned from school.
it's not funny at all to fuck each other here.
stop being such retared boys,go take a shower,it's 12 a.m. now,time to sleep...
2010-07-31 18:23:08
Some China people said in this forum "in china most important thing is friendship" yeah us see here China peoples friendship , Cool story China ;)
Post edited 2010-07-31 18:37:56
Post edited 2010-07-31 18:37:56
2010-07-31 18:35:56
I go to bed at 21:00 to wake up at 3:00
2010-07-31 18:37:00
It not China to blame, blame IEM organizers who knew perfectly that they have time untill 17:30 local time.
They knew who is going to play and a clash between these two teams will go into the 3rd map.They should've started the match 2 hours earlier and there will be no problem.
So don't blame China governement, blame IEM organizers.It is their fault
They knew who is going to play and a clash between these two teams will go into the 3rd map.They should've started the match 2 hours earlier and there will be no problem.
So don't blame China governement, blame IEM organizers.It is their fault
2010-07-31 18:49:56
everybody please stay calm.no more arguing.
we meet idiots from time to time, place to place. so doing nothing is the best reation, giving the finger means no more than getting involved into trouble.
we meet idiots from time to time, place to place. so doing nothing is the best reation, giving the finger means no more than getting involved into trouble.
2010-07-31 19:03:10
wow chinese people are mad at the whole world, because they live in horrible country?
Trying to let go their anger on their government on people who live in democratic countries, how pathetic.
Trying to let go their anger on their government on people who live in democratic countries, how pathetic.
2010-07-31 19:21:09
Don't extrapolate a few guys' actions to a whole nation. Not fair :)
2010-07-31 19:23:35
yea I guess you right, but my conclusion was based on majority of them on hltv.
2010-07-31 19:26:13
a lot of these are troll accounts too...created just to flame more in this thread...for example see brotherchun over this reply :)
or cc491873412 earlier...I am pretty sure more than half of them are not chinese :)
or cc491873412 earlier...I am pretty sure more than half of them are not chinese :)
2010-07-31 19:33:25
Very ironic of an american to say... there are retards from every country... chinese, american, kiwi, you name it
its the internet, just ignore that that isn't worth recognising
its the internet, just ignore that that isn't worth recognising
2010-07-31 19:42:07
Im guessing you're not really understand the root of why they're raging? and when you said majority, so far I only see 2 or 3 accounts with chinese flag been trolling all over the place, and then many random ppl just pouring oil into the fire.
And I dont understand what basis that made you could concluded that they're releasing their disappointment for their country?
In fact, I believe many of them love their country as much as we love our own country. :)
And I dont understand what basis that made you could concluded that they're releasing their disappointment for their country?
In fact, I believe many of them love their country as much as we love our own country. :)
2010-07-31 23:19:46
I hope there won't be any delay :D:D Maybe I'm reckless...
2010-07-31 19:42:36
now is 1:55am i have to sleep, 8:30am i will wake up for the 3rd map.^^
2010-07-31 19:56:57
This thread is like chinese guys against the world, arguing bout nothing...
2010-07-31 20:38:58
Chinajoy is a big event.It not just has IEM5.
There are tens of thousands of people and dozens of gaming companys everyday.
Close at 5pm everyday,which is stipulate.
I hope everyone can keep calm.
and China is a great country.
There are tens of thousands of people and dozens of gaming companys everyday.
Close at 5pm everyday,which is stipulate.
I hope everyone can keep calm.
and China is a great country.
2010-07-31 20:46:01
To be honest I don't like any type of repression.
A lot of countries around the world are using extremist politics "killing" everyday human rights.
You shouldn't love your country only because you were born there. When you grow up or live in Europe or other free countries you will see how stupid are political extremist countries and understand the fake nationalism that government uses to hush people.
Only my point of view.
Post edited 2010-07-31 21:06:57
A lot of countries around the world are using extremist politics "killing" everyday human rights.
You shouldn't love your country only because you were born there. When you grow up or live in Europe or other free countries you will see how stupid are political extremist countries and understand the fake nationalism that government uses to hush people.
Only my point of view.
Post edited 2010-07-31 21:06:57
2010-07-31 20:58:51
Free is relative.
Each country has different issues,you cann't deny that.
Each country has different issues,you cann't deny that.
2010-07-31 21:47:15
Yes freedom is relative. One question for you: Do you consider too much freedom talk about government troubles, tendentious actions, give job only to friends guys and so on?
About China, I'm not saying bad things of China but bad types of government. China is a great country with long history. I just hate extremist politic that oppresses people. I'm for the people.
Post edited 2010-08-01 05:03:43
About China, I'm not saying bad things of China but bad types of government. China is a great country with long history. I just hate extremist politic that oppresses people. I'm for the people.
Post edited 2010-08-01 05:03:43
2010-08-01 05:03:33
oh.4:00
I think i have to go to bed now.
I just want to say that you must not look only at the surface of things.
Please don't observe China through tainted glasses.China is a very beautiful country.
I think i have to go to bed now.
I just want to say that you must not look only at the surface of things.
Please don't observe China through tainted glasses.China is a very beautiful country.
2010-07-31 22:10:36
I live in the eastern time zone, US. What time will the match be, like 9:30 pm?
2010-07-31 21:13:10
8:30
2010-07-31 21:20:44
Thank you kind sir
2010-07-31 21:23:59
If you set up your timezone in your profile the match schedules will display accordingly.
If they do not it may be because the timezone is not working right and thus you should select a compatible working one.
If they do not it may be because the timezone is not working right and thus you should select a compatible working one.
2010-07-31 21:58:11
oh.4:00
I think i have to go to bed now.
I just want to say that you must not look only at the surface of things.
Please don't observe China through tainted glasses.China is a very beautiful country.
I think i have to go to bed now.
I just want to say that you must not look only at the surface of things.
Please don't observe China through tainted glasses.China is a very beautiful country.
2010-07-31 22:09:42
Never seen China's scenery, but the food should speak for itself!
2010-07-31 22:13:30
I prefer their women :P
<3 Ziyi Zhang :D
<3 Ziyi Zhang :D
2010-07-31 22:29:46
The country and it's people/traditions/etc. might be beautiful, but that doesn't mean it can't be governed by fascist pigs on a powertrip.
2010-07-31 23:36:52
farm1.static.flickr.com/131/319047856_dbf1ef3e92.jpg
2010-07-31 22:17:09
the Tyloo vs. Tyloo.raw is on stream right now <3
2010-07-31 22:34:35
lol, a lot of comments already been deleted.
tough job that you have there, Jonathan :D
tough job that you have there, Jonathan :D
2010-07-31 23:08:38
Seems it is hard for some people to sit down, relax and enjoy the matches.
2010-07-31 23:54:26
Na Vi will win n0 matter what!!!!!
2010-07-31 23:52:23
navi prove that they can beat any team now. so navi top3 now 100%
2010-08-01 00:06:35
How can they shut it down, when you would think they care about e-sport. :S
2010-08-01 02:49:57
f0rest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3
2010-08-01 04:04:35
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