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ESL TV #1
H2k comments on CS team situation
By: Pus
Time: 2010-08-18 20:35
H2k Gaming have issued a press release addressing the situation concerning their Counter-Strike division.
News first broke when HLTV.org published a report surrounding H2k's Counter-Strike team and how the relationship between the players and organization was damaged.
The following days H2k made several headlines, firstly another report which indicated that the H2k squad was about to make a move and link up with Norwegian-based Lions. This was followed by a statement claiming that the team would not go anywhere, and that the players were still bound to H2k.
Björn "threat" Pers, H2k's newest addition, also considered as an 'unstable piece' by the organization, later told HLTV.org that the team will attend the MSI BEAT IT finals under another name.
H2k-Gaming have now issued a press release addressing the above-mentioned incidents and states that all eight players are free to go as long as they fulfill their parts of the contracts. (Pers is not contracted).
Read the full press release below:
Press release about the H(ow) 2 k(ill) rumors
Julianadorp, The Netherlands, 18th
August 2010
Dear fans & other relative e-Sport community members,
As we saw several false rumors and statements coming by the last weeks by so called
“H2k staff”, we’d like to hereby release an official press release to end this soap about
the Counter-Strike 1.6 team.
I like to point out that the decision of taking in Bjorn Pers (threat) was a pure choice of the
team and we did not hated this choice ourselves, because of course the team decides on
what they think is good for the team’s future.
I did not understand the teams decision completely but we want to stress out that we
don't have any issues with both Markus and Bjorn press nor with Lions (Nostra) seeing
we had talks with all of them only some days ago.
It is a fact that the trust between both parties (the H2k organization and the team) is not
there. H2k lost their motivation in cooperating together and we hereby also want to notify
that every player in the CS lineup will be be released from their contract as long as they
come up to the deals and agreements they signed on their contracts.
Some players have broken strict rules as written in their contract.
Playing for another team without the approval of our partners and the H2k staff is only
one of them. All 9 players can be released from their contracts if they AND
the new organizations where they want to play for contact H2k and discuss the terms for
releasing.
Some rumors were written about the financial status
of H2k Gaming. With strong partners and other H2k brands
behind the Gaming organization there is no reason
for us to explain more.
Best Regards,
Rudy van der Reest – Chief Executive Officer
"As we saw several false rumors and statements coming by the last weeks by so called “H2k staff”, we’d like to hereby release an official press release to end this soap about the Counter-Strike 1.6 team", H2k-Gaming Chief Executive Officer Rudy van der Reest said.
"I like to point out that the decision of taking in Bjorn Pers (threat) was a pure choice of the team and we did not hated this choice ourselves, because of course the team decides on what they think is good for the team’s future. I did not understand the teams decision completely but we want to stress out that we don't have any issues with both Markus and Bjorn press nor with Lions (Nostra) seeing we had talks with all of them only some days ago."
"It is a fact that the trust between both parties (the H2k organization and the team) is not there. H2k lost their motivation in cooperating together and we hereby also want to notify that every player in the CS lineup will be be released from their contract as long as they come up to the deals and agreements they signed on their contracts."
"Some players have broken strict rules as written in their contract. Playing for another team without the approval of our partners and the H2k staff is only one of them. All 9 players can be released from their contracts if they AND the new organizations where they want to play for contact H2k and discuss the terms for releasing."
"Some rumors were written about the financial status of H2k Gaming. With strong partners and other H2k brands behind the Gaming organization there is no reason for us to explain more."
For now, these eight players are still bound to their contracts:
Richard "Xizt" Landström
""Some players have broken strict rules as written in their contract. Playing for another team without the approval of our partners and the H2k staff is only one of them." when did it happen?
2010-08-18 20:38:09
Xizt played for SK i guess :P
2010-08-18 20:48:06
didn't kHRYSTAL and FYRR73, sub in for ex-MYM at the ESL nordic finals as well?
2010-08-18 22:07:05
ex-MYM isn't a team anymore is it?
2010-08-18 22:18:42
They're signed up to play ASUS summer, so I'm assuming something is still in the works. Either way they played the ESL nordic finals, and 2 players contracted to h2k played for them.
2010-08-19 09:01:56
lol 4 of them are inactive and are contracted LOL
2010-08-18 20:38:55
lost my respect to the h2k organisation..
2010-08-18 20:39:39
copy that
2010-08-18 21:22:42
lol pronax isn't inactive,zyppe too =)
2010-08-18 20:40:22
zyppe is inactive :) zneel pronax and popn arent inactive
2010-08-18 20:41:57
Zyppe is active)
EPS Nordic 3
Swedish Housemafia:
Faruk 'pita' Pita
Marcus 'zet' Sundstrom
Markus 'pronax' Wallsten
Samuel 'Zyppe' Martinson
Danny 'pop' Oldenburg
Jonathan 'lidde' Lidgren
EPS Nordic 3
Swedish Housemafia:
Faruk 'pita' Pita
Marcus 'zet' Sundstrom
Markus 'pronax' Wallsten
Samuel 'Zyppe' Martinson
Danny 'pop' Oldenburg
Jonathan 'lidde' Lidgren
2010-08-18 21:09:28
nice ;)
2010-08-18 21:28:49
and where is BARBARR and Delpan :(
Post edited 2010-08-18 21:31:50
Post edited 2010-08-18 21:31:50
2010-08-18 21:30:03
Dunno where are they :/
Here is the proof: www.esl.eu/nordic/pro-series/season3/cs/team/4971800/
Here is the proof: www.esl.eu/nordic/pro-series/season3/cs/team/4971800/
2010-08-18 21:53:12
Actually, that lineup is the new Begrip, with zet as the 6th player. It will be posted here on Hltv soon i think :)
2010-08-18 23:56:37
H2K.B
pronax
zyppe
zneel
delpan
zet
xd
pronax
zyppe
zneel
delpan
zet
xd
2010-08-18 20:43:02
basically what this means is LIONS has to pay 10 thousand dollars for each player to get off there contracts from H2K
"the new organizations where they want to play for contact H2k and discuss the terms for releasing."
"the new organizations where they want to play for contact H2k and discuss the terms for releasing."
2010-08-18 20:43:16
what the hell? who played for another team with out the aproval? threat? damn, so much happening with H2K... and i believe the problems wont stop here..
2010-08-18 20:43:33
xist can be Sued for alot of money Gee GEE
2010-08-18 20:45:14
zyppe isn't inactive dude.:)
2010-08-18 20:44:05
He's inactive under h2k tag :)
2010-08-18 20:48:11
zyppe is inactive omg find the article about zyppe leave from h2k
2010-08-18 20:57:35
Let's wait for respond from Pears :)
2010-08-18 20:45:16
whos pears? :p
2010-08-18 21:06:00
you haven't heard about Britney Pears ? :DDDD
2010-08-18 21:31:43
they signed contract and they signed there Gaming-Souls away maybe thats why they're inactive lifetime agreement LOL pay them 4 grand and get off of contract or be SUED
2010-08-18 20:48:37
-xizt +face gg team
2010-08-18 20:50:41
x2
2010-08-18 20:53:42
I think this is the right choice, aint you guys begging for a pro scene, then respect what you sign ;)
2010-08-18 20:51:44
threat has a contract ??? hmm, I believed he sweared that will never play for h2k... wtf ? =))) something is wrong =)
2010-08-18 20:54:21
zet and pita made team called Swedish Housemafia: zet pita pronax pop zyppe lidde
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Post edited 2010-08-18 20:56:03
2010-08-18 20:54:36
who cares threats terrible.. dunno why he thinks he can call all the shots and think he's the man!
2010-08-18 20:57:16
Well, when they [the players] sign the contract, they have to respect the rules. And if you don't like the rules afterwards it is, simply and legally, your own mistake. In addition, you have to respect that H2k is also responsible for their sponsors, which give the organization the financial possibilities. And so the opportunity for the players to attend LANs etc. However it can also causes restrictions which also have to be respected by the players under contract in the same way.
After all, I do not know the exact story from both parties and I guess it's the same story for approx. 99% of the people who commented, positively or negatively, on the organization. So I won't say anything at all, but good luck for both parties in finding a proper and fair solution, for now!
Post edited 2010-08-18 21:14:47
After all, I do not know the exact story from both parties and I guess it's the same story for approx. 99% of the people who commented, positively or negatively, on the organization. So I won't say anything at all, but good luck for both parties in finding a proper and fair solution, for now!
Post edited 2010-08-18 21:14:47
2010-08-18 21:08:36
h2k = nubz
2010-08-18 21:10:31
some name right there i mean seriously teams pick them up PLEASE !
Post edited 2010-08-18 21:13:30
Post edited 2010-08-18 21:13:30
2010-08-18 21:13:18
i still think the h2k organisation is bullshit and im sure there's more to it.
Want a statement from the players also. Not just from the h2k organisation.
If the h2k organisation for example hasn't done their part of what's written in the contract then they can't come and say the h2k players should do what they signed in the contract.
h2k is fishy !
Want a statement from the players also. Not just from the h2k organisation.
If the h2k organisation for example hasn't done their part of what's written in the contract then they can't come and say the h2k players should do what they signed in the contract.
h2k is fishy !
2010-08-18 21:36:20
add cem, fury & molander
2010-08-18 21:40:10
if you want a team that completely sux then ye..... be my guest add them...
rofl. get some knowledge about cs players. fury is only famous because of his csmovie of online frags. He haven't even performed on lan ffs.
and molander..... HAHAHHAAAHAHA give me a break. semi-elites in an elite team ? rofl
rofl. get some knowledge about cs players. fury is only famous because of his csmovie of online frags. He haven't even performed on lan ffs.
and molander..... HAHAHHAAAHAHA give me a break. semi-elites in an elite team ? rofl
2010-08-18 22:30:59
that was only my thinks. you must show respect. anyone don't wants bad players for the h2k`s line-up for h2k because this team is really good.
2010-08-18 22:35:53
why do i have to show respect ? you clearly don't know much about cs-players.
2010-08-18 22:56:58
pls don't forget you are from Sweden. Sweden is heart of counter-strike in modern earth and i am from Turkey. counter-strike is newly developed in my country. and about cs players... fury and molander are really good players. i don't watch both in movie but i know theese are good players.
I think `show respect` is a rule of life. If you don't stick to this rule, maybe you will lose very large somethings in terms of your personality.
I think `show respect` is a rule of life. If you don't stick to this rule, maybe you will lose very large somethings in terms of your personality.
2010-08-18 23:09:17
h2k crazy house. . .
2010-08-18 21:46:32
The team is sticking to legal standing and their contracts. So you can't really say they are in the wrong. You can't blame them for wanting to secure their assests and be compensated for them. Stuff like this does not happen in professional sports leagues or in the professional workplace so why here.
Post edited 2010-08-18 21:51:43
Post edited 2010-08-18 21:51:43
2010-08-18 21:50:34
Lame to still have the old players under contract
2010-08-18 22:00:47
+1 What a shame
2010-08-18 22:35:11
their inactive line-up (If they add delpan fe.) is better than first line-up :D
2010-08-18 22:07:00
Hard 2 kill, now i get it :)
2010-08-18 22:33:27
I kinda didn't want to say anything but...
Remember H2K.dk with whiMp, XciteD, KK, Morf4R and zone I think it was back when they finished 2nd at Intel Extreme Masters :P?
As far as I know the H2k organization got the money, and the danes never saw all of them =(
Remember H2K.dk with whiMp, XciteD, KK, Morf4R and zone I think it was back when they finished 2nd at Intel Extreme Masters :P?
As far as I know the H2k organization got the money, and the danes never saw all of them =(
2010-08-18 22:40:02
Still the same people part of the organization you think?
It is a point to bear in mind I guess...
Post edited 2010-08-18 23:01:10
It is a point to bear in mind I guess...
Post edited 2010-08-18 23:01:10
2010-08-18 22:48:31
Inside info from whiMp? :D
Does he still play once a while with you guys btw (for fun ofc)? :D
Does he still play once a while with you guys btw (for fun ofc)? :D
2010-08-18 22:51:34
I bet h2k has a line in the contract that says:
"If we take the prizemoney you won you have to be silent and not say ANYTHING to ANYONE or else we will sue !!!"
with like microscopic text that is invisible to the eye and you have to read with a microscope.
or with an invisible inkpen.
"If we take the prizemoney you won you have to be silent and not say ANYTHING to ANYONE or else we will sue !!!"
with like microscopic text that is invisible to the eye and you have to read with a microscope.
or with an invisible inkpen.
2010-08-18 23:01:46
I wonder 1 thing... How does an amateur team get the money from events (if they do not have an organization)? How do they get payed?
H2K produced many great Swedish players atm, hope the organization will find talented fresh blood.. GL to the guys, I am a fan of them :)
H2K produced many great Swedish players atm, hope the organization will find talented fresh blood.. GL to the guys, I am a fan of them :)
2010-08-18 22:54:56
lol H2K hasn't produced a single fucking Swedish talent ever.
they have just signed them from Begrip or elsewhere.
if any organisations produces talents it's Begrip.
Post edited 2010-08-18 23:05:54
they have just signed them from Begrip or elsewhere.
if any organisations produces talents it's Begrip.
Post edited 2010-08-18 23:05:54
2010-08-18 23:05:04
That team can come to an punctual agreement with a brand, f.e. remember SharkGaming, to cover some if not all expenses in exchange of featuring that brand at the event.
2010-08-18 23:06:14
there comes times where you as an organisation should be strict and take a stand and show the players that "this is not okay" ... but as far as i can tell, this is not the right situation to do so. h2k should of, by now, understood that the whole community is laughing at them and no one got any respect whatsoever left for the h2k brand.
2010-08-18 22:55:45
How so? h2k is basically stating we got contracts and if these players want to leave or another organization wants these guys, they can buy them out of the contracts. h2k has invested time, money, and resources into this line up and it is fucked up if you think they should just let them go. As cs becomes more professional and larger so must the industry upgrade along with it. This means more legal bs, and making sure you make your money.
2010-08-18 23:10:40
yeah, im not saying anything about that. but considering their really immature statements where they said they sold the team to the african president etc etc ... it's waaaaaay too late to make a statement like this. they already made a fool out of themselves and should just try and save themselves as much as they can by releasing them.
2010-08-19 01:34:36
i once thought threat was the worst player for fnatic ever and begged that fnatic kick him, but then i actually sat down and thought about it...
When Fnatic recruited him everyone said "good move / decent pick up" and stuff like that. He played a role he isnt used to (not calling strats) and was often played a different style of CS (not his own since he wasnt calling strats).
Threat played perfectly fine for LemonDogs and other teams before he joined Fnatic (or else they wouldnt have picked him up). So there is no reason why he wont return to that form. I think to put it simply, he didnt fit in with the Fnatic style of CS.
Goodluck to him,a and i hope he plays great.
Post edited 2010-08-18 23:05:16
When Fnatic recruited him everyone said "good move / decent pick up" and stuff like that. He played a role he isnt used to (not calling strats) and was often played a different style of CS (not his own since he wasnt calling strats).
Threat played perfectly fine for LemonDogs and other teams before he joined Fnatic (or else they wouldnt have picked him up). So there is no reason why he wont return to that form. I think to put it simply, he didnt fit in with the Fnatic style of CS.
Goodluck to him,a and i hope he plays great.
Post edited 2010-08-18 23:05:16
2010-08-18 23:04:20
Some players are really good plays. Although it is transferred to a big team to their feet when they move their hands and they do not know what to do. i think this is a difficult problem for his/her team and for themselves.
`So there is no reason why he wont return to that form. I think to put it simply, he didnt fit in with the Fnatic style of CS.` +1
`So there is no reason why he wont return to that form. I think to put it simply, he didnt fit in with the Fnatic style of CS.` +1
2010-08-18 23:15:57
Yeah, Threat came to fnaic to cover Gux spot, who was firstfragger/madfragger and of course is not Threat's role. I'm sure he'll find the best team to join and he will shine. Good luck Threat!
2010-08-19 00:01:51
h2k org is making the most of it, trying to get the most out of it -,- to mutch drama just release the players
2010-08-18 23:12:31
It's getting a joke. I heard to will go bankrupt around half of 2011.
2010-08-19 00:01:35
I heard thierry henry is building a football academy for SK-Gaming :SSSS
2010-08-19 00:11:15
Cs is becoming soo much drama these days... :d
2010-08-19 02:11:22
Players are realy clueless and it's obviously their fault. If they want to keep playing on a professional level they should at least read their contracts. In my opinion THREAT was the one with the most fault and childish act. "ima not gonna play for H2k anymore!!! ima very angry at ze tag!" Come on... a better statement anyone?? I'm sure that if they talked to the H2k staff they would instantly sign threat in. But nooo.. THREAT HATES ZE TAG. Q_Q
2010-08-19 10:16:28
You are right Zonic H2k earned 15k from what the danies won in 2006
Rudy van der Reest and Jack Benard didn't pay a single dollar to the players.
H2k stop telling bullshit and tell the scene what big mess it is in H2k
Rudy van der Reest and Jack Benard didn't pay a single dollar to the players.
H2k stop telling bullshit and tell the scene what big mess it is in H2k
2010-08-19 13:01:38
lie!!!
Post edited 2010-08-19 14:55:28
Post edited 2010-08-19 14:55:28
2010-08-19 14:53:31
Haha again a big lie Budkicker!!
You know Rudy earned a lot of money.
and are not that person behind Legend-Networks Hosting Company who scammed Redbull for 15k?
H2k = Scammers
You know Rudy earned a lot of money.
and are not that person behind Legend-Networks Hosting Company who scammed Redbull for 15k?
H2k = Scammers
2010-08-19 14:57:02
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwGFalTRHDA
2010-08-19 16:30:49
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