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Na´Vi scored $220,000 in 2010
Unquestionably the team of 2010, Natus Vincere have broken fnatic's winnings record from 2009, winning a total of $221,550.
The last big tournament of 2010 ended this past weekend, when Natus Vincere won the Grand Final at DreamHack Winter against mTw. With the victory the Ukrainian squad surpassed the $200,000 mark and broke the record set by fnatic in 2009, where the Swedes scored a total of $189,000.
Below is the list of events attended, where Na´Vi managed to win money, a total breakdown displaying how much money the Ukrainians won during the months of 2010.
| Rank | Tournament | Date | Location | Winnings |
| 1. | DreamHack Winter |
25-27 November | Jönköping, Sweden | $28,200* |
| 4. |  World e-Sports Masters |
3-7 November | Hangzhou, China | $7,500 |
| 1. |  World Cyber Games |
1-4 October | Los Angeles, USA | $25,000 |
| 3. | ASUS Summer |
28-29 August | Kiev, Ukraine | $3,000 |
| 3. | IEM5 GC Shanghai |
29 July-1 August | Shanghai, China | $5,000 |
| 3. |  GameGune |
16-18 July | Bilbao, Spain | $4,000 |
| 1. | Arbalet Cup Dallas |
22-24 July | Dallas, USA | $25,000 |
| 1. | ESWC |
30 June-4 July | Paris, France | $36,000 |
| 1. | CGL Ukraine Season 5 & 6 |
12 June | Kiev, Ukraine | $1,800 |
| 2. | Arbalet Cup Europe |
14-16 May | Stockholm, Sweden | $10,000 |
| 1. | Arbalet Cup Best of Four |
9-11 April | Kiev, Ukraine | $12,000 |
| 1. | Arbalet Cup Ukraine |
3 April | Kiev, Ukraine | $3,000 |
| 1. | IEM4 World Championship |
2-6 March | Hannover, Germany | $50,000 |
| 1. |  Arbalet Cup Asia |
30-31 January | Almaty, Kazakhstan | $10,000 |
| 5. | IEM4 EU Championship |
14-17 January | Cologne, Germany | $1,250 |
| Total | $221,750 |
* including a KVD gift card worth $14,100
Na´Vi also secured $2,500 by winning their five group stage matches in the European Championship for IEM5, as well as $750 to qualifuying to the finals. Three Na´Vi members also earned money outside of Na´Vi, such as representing the Ukrainian ENC squad and all-star teams during Arbalet Cup Asia.
Below is a breakdown of how much the individual members in Na´Vi won during 2010.
| Winnings with Na´Vi |
Other winnings | Total | |
| Arseny "esenin" Trynozhenko |
$45,000 | $0 | $45,000 |
| Danylo "Zeus" Teslenko |
$45,000 | $0 | $45,000 |
| Ioann "Edward" Sukhariev |
$45,000 | $989 | $45,989 |
| Sergey "starix" Ischuk |
$45,000 | $1,289 | $46,289 |
| Yegor "markeloff" Markelov |
$45,000 | $989 | $45,989 |
Aleksandr "ZeroGravity" Kohanovskiy has informed HLTV.org that the team still has unpaid prize money from IEM4 EU Finals, IEM4 World Championship, IEM5 GC Shanghai, WEM, WCG and GamGune as well as the recent victory at DreamHack Winter. HLTV.org also know that the Ukrainians will have to pay taxes of some of their winnings, as some event organizers are inforced to do so by the law which applies in the country the company is registred.
The biggest cheque of 2010, still unpaid
Regardless of unpaid prizes and having to pay taxes of their winnings, the Ukrainians have set a new record in terms of winnings as a Counter-Strike team. With Murat "Arbalet" Zhumashevich not hosting more tournaments, it seems doubtful that any team could break this record in 2011.
wOw!
2010-11-30 16:38:20
starix most richest player of the year xD
MRPotY
MRPotY
2010-11-30 16:47:25
45k dollars a year. It's like an average earning in USA???
2010-11-30 18:00:08
probably they are in Forbes top50 richest Ukrainians :D just kiddin :D
2010-11-30 18:03:40
haha ;DDD
2010-11-30 18:58:20
AHAH n1
2010-11-30 21:05:33
:D
2010-12-01 12:48:55
lol :P
2010-12-01 16:16:03
ahhhm dude..this is only from their winnings...not included the money which comes from sponsorship etc etc..
2010-11-30 20:37:32
45k a year is a good starting salary out of college, but with any kind of college degree people would expect to make quite a bit more than that. it really depends where in the US you live as well, in the big cities with a lot of people like NY and LA people make much more than in the midwest and stuff.
2010-11-30 22:19:51
45000$ a year = 3750$ a month. Are u kidding me? in US it's a "starting salary out of college"?
Oh yeah, just remembered you guys don't have taxes to pay on that. We have like 40-45% cut from this to social taxes (the thing Obama wants to set up).
Oh yeah, just remembered you guys don't have taxes to pay on that. We have like 40-45% cut from this to social taxes (the thing Obama wants to set up).
2010-12-01 01:47:29
45k a year is very good out of college, and im talking about before taxes. Taxes arent quite that high here, but they still take a sizeable chunk out for sure. not to mention the economy isn't great here so a job right out of college definitely isn't a guaranteed thing.
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Post edited 2010-12-01 03:53:50
2010-12-01 03:52:51
Yeah 45.000 a year is great money especially for playing a video game and not working full time, HOWEVER they dont see all of that money I bet they only have about 20.000 - 25.000 that they can actually touch the rest they will be fighting for months or years to recieve and then have to pay crazy high taxes, especially on those DH checks because Sweden is crazy with taxes. When it comes down to it its not a whole lot of money and I would much rather do something I hated and actually make a good living than play video games and live in a shitty apartment.
2010-12-04 21:44:41
i'd much rather do something i love for a living and have a roof over my head and food on the table than aspire to live a vain, materialistic life hating what i do.
2010-12-06 22:34:03
Maybe it isnt their whole earning for the year :) its just the prize money ?
2010-12-01 04:12:58
average americans dont get paid for playin cs.. and the americans who play cs wont even get 45$ year :)unless they ghost :p
2010-12-01 10:07:23
nice considering brain surgeons in the Ukraine only get like 10k a year if my info is correct
best team of all time, won pretty much every major tournament
best team of all time, won pretty much every major tournament
2010-12-01 02:54:41
BEST TEAM EVER!!!!
2010-11-30 16:38:52
That's a perfect example of fanboy-ism. Guy from Ukraine who 'loves' his national team, says it's the best team ever. No, wait. He SHOUTS it's the best team ever and uses exclamation mark 4 times.
Dude, they came up in 2010, they are like mtw when they were winning everything in 2008 or fnatic in 2009.
Dude, they came up in 2010, they are like mtw when they were winning everything in 2008 or fnatic in 2009.
2010-11-30 16:41:21
dude who did win in one year EM,ESWC,WCG??? fnatic mtw sk eol??
who who did put a new record 220k??? fnatic mtw sk eol??
fanboy? xm ok
2010-11-30 16:47:39
yeah true, but there were not that many tournaments back there...let's say 2003, 2004...also Na'Vi participated at more tournaments than fnatic did last last year or mTw the year before that....so stop with that fanboism...best team ever??
get back to NiP, SK, NoA
get back to NiP, SK, NoA
2010-11-30 18:58:03
mtw dominated in 2008, fnatic did it in 2007 and 2009... the best team ever should be the old 2003 sk which never lost... but if you say that how competitive cs is right now then surely they are the best ever...
2010-11-30 16:49:06
2007 - Pentagram G-Shock (ESWC 2007) / NoA (WCG 2007 2nd place)
2008 - mTw.AMD (WCG 2008) / MYM.PGS (ESWC 2008)
2008 - mTw.AMD (WCG 2008) / MYM.PGS (ESWC 2008)
2010-11-30 17:24:47
actually i would say pentagram pgs mym dominated that year
2010-11-30 17:29:14
true true, though as i remember didn't SK lose 5 out of 7 matches against eoL or was that '02?
2010-11-30 17:46:04
2006 - pentagram
2007 - MIBR, SK, PGS, NoA, fnatic
2008 - mtw
2009 - fnatic
2010 - Na'Vi
The best year was 2007, cause there were no favorites, any of those 5 could easily beat each other :D
2007 - MIBR, SK, PGS, NoA, fnatic
2008 - mtw
2009 - fnatic
2010 - Na'Vi
The best year was 2007, cause there were no favorites, any of those 5 could easily beat each other :D
2010-11-30 20:45:59
check your facts bro, fnatic has been winning tournaments since 06.
2010-11-30 16:49:14
in ONE ONE ONE ONE year lol
2010-11-30 16:50:29
? I didn't reply to you did I?
2010-11-30 17:03:59
sory dude =)) my bad
2010-11-30 17:05:39
Best team ever in one year?
2010-11-30 17:27:01
for one year
imo
imo
2010-11-30 17:30:56
See that's what I was getting at.
2010 - one year.
Ever - of all (CS) time.
2010 - one year.
Ever - of all (CS) time.
2010-11-30 17:33:31
well so for them already the best achievements for all time on cs =)
IMO :D
IMO :D
2010-11-30 17:38:54
i believe that SK '03 is still the most achieving clan ever considering the amount of tournaments, plus Na-Vi has like 3 or 4 tournaments which is only for CIS teams Fnatic, mTw and PGS never had tournaments like this.
2010-11-30 17:49:57
navi best... because no one has ever reached such heights
so shut up jealous
WE BEST
so shut up jealous
WE BEST
2010-11-30 18:41:59
"we best" ? You're not in the team are you?
2010-11-30 19:05:44
Why? jealous? do not worry. you too will achieve success later be)))) but now, we best)))
2010-11-30 19:17:40
still... "we"? what did you hearn from navi victorys? LOLOL
just another fanboy
just another fanboy
2010-11-30 19:28:42
envy man,,, sin))))
Tell me something good))))
because like all the who's written about Navi here ... sad))))
Tell me something good))))
because like all the who's written about Navi here ... sad))))
2010-11-30 19:34:23
... Dude you still dont answer his question. You are not who won those tournaments, Na'Vi did.. so stop writing "we best"
2010-11-30 23:28:38
Rofl, like i'd ruin my life just to play cs on a high level.
2010-11-30 22:18:28
they didn't ruined their lifes if they are doing what they love to do, and earning money, and travelling doing so
2010-11-30 22:30:58
But now I said MY life, not theirs. I got bigger plans than to play CS at the age of 23 and up.
2010-11-30 22:36:45
Probably your plans depends on what you like to do, and this is what they like to do. So you can call it "bigger plans" beacuse it might be bigger for you because you like to do this other thing more than CS, but maybe for them CS is what they like the most.
2010-11-30 23:30:06
oh, please.. No one is jealous, cus it's a f*cking computer game.
Yeah, and Sweden will allways be the nr. 1 country of this game, so why would they envy you anyway?
Yeah, and Sweden will allways be the nr. 1 country of this game, so why would they envy you anyway?
2010-12-04 12:49:11
well as i just argued SK '03 did, considering the amount of tournaments, you always have to consider what each team has to work with, though i do agree mTw, PGS and Fnatic havn't reached the same heights
2010-12-01 23:22:12
Maybe yes, but with no doubt Na`Vi is the best team of 2010 and the world's record on prizes winning... if they keep those results until the end of 2011 we can say "BEST TEAM EVER", as in the past it teams aint that strong...
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2010-11-30 16:52:38
i do agree that is statement was slightly over the top, but fnatic or mtw did not win as much "everything" as Na'Vi did...
2010-11-30 17:07:57
what's your problem? nothing wrong with liking or cheering on a team.
Post edited 2010-11-30 17:35:58
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2010-11-30 17:35:38
out of everyone, we have a pole talking about 'fanboyism'... Enough said. I don't see anything wrong with someone liking their national team. Aren't we here because we are fans of the game and a certain team? No need to pick on people who are only supporting a team/ the community.
2010-11-30 18:30:30
actually ....the last time 1 team won so many tournaments in 1 year was sk ...
as far as prestige goes ....navi has one the biggest tournaments of this year ....if they would of one gamegune , iem eu and wem they would deffinetly would of been considered the greatest team of all time .
but still ..at the moment they are the best ream in the world ... and one of the best teams of all time.
as far as prestige goes ....navi has one the biggest tournaments of this year ....if they would of one gamegune , iem eu and wem they would deffinetly would of been considered the greatest team of all time .
but still ..at the moment they are the best ream in the world ... and one of the best teams of all time.
2010-11-30 21:12:03
sorry, but no. they are new team they must prove it for years that they are - "best team ever".
may be best team in Ukraine all a time, but it's quite another matter :)
may be best team in Ukraine all a time, but it's quite another matter :)
2010-11-30 16:46:21
The Best team yeah but the best li-neup is The Golden Five LUq Neo TaZ Loord Kuben :)
2010-11-30 16:52:51
Makes sense coming from a pole. And you're statement about the best 5 is definitely arguable. I guess that would depend on your definition of 'the best'.
Post edited 2010-11-30 18:34:36
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2010-11-30 18:34:08
not yet man, not yet. (but in the one year - yes)
2010-11-30 17:54:02
good 4 them xD
2010-11-30 16:39:12
gj Na´Vi!
2010-11-30 16:40:20
MONEY MONEY MONEY!
2010-11-30 16:41:11
Nobody will ever beat that in the history of CS imo :s
2010-11-30 16:41:15
IT wont be possible anymore, they just had that chance because of all the extra tournaments which "arblet" came with. And cs is not getting that much attention as sc2 from the sponsors and the tournament orgas. Which make cs will go lower and lower in prize money.
2010-11-30 17:08:53
+1
2010-11-30 19:02:56
maybe kode5 +navi
navi +25k
navi +25k
2010-11-30 16:44:23
Doubt they will go to KODE5. Honestly.
2010-11-30 16:52:10
and why is that ? :-o
2010-11-30 17:38:28
The event will start on Friday and they havnt been announced to be attending.
2010-11-30 17:42:05
will u be there?
2010-11-30 18:04:55
mTw 2008
fnatic 2009
Na`Vi 2010
??? 2011
:D
fnatic 2009
Na`Vi 2010
??? 2011
:D
2010-11-30 16:46:32
FX 2011
2010-11-30 16:49:27
2008 ^^ mTw/MYM ;)
2011 FX :D
2011 FX :D
2010-11-30 16:51:47
2008 mTw/mouz ;)
2010-11-30 17:11:46
mTw (WCG 2008) MYM.PGS (ESWC 2008)
2010-11-30 17:21:17
yeah ^^
2010-11-30 17:38:56
I respect this 5 players but in 2008 they are not near to mTw
2010-11-30 18:33:46
LIONS
2010-11-30 17:36:08
wouldn't be surprissed if it'll be a year between mTw and Na-Vi i think mTw look really strong with Arcadion and with the insane ours of pracc. Na-Vi have they will keep their lvl i'm sure. Fnatic don't think will have a good year, i think some of them will retire (based on nothing just a feeling) and maybe SK will be able to do some serious damage should they get Delpan and modii in as regular members.
2010-11-30 17:53:26
fnatic 2007
mibr/pentagram 2006
mibr/pentagram 2006
2010-11-30 18:55:12
LIONS maybe...if they stay together...they'll have a lot of motivation ;)
2010-11-30 19:05:17
2k11 hopefully a good year for Lions
2010-11-30 20:37:10
No lifers :D
2010-11-30 16:46:32
You call it no life to win over 220.000$ and travel the world around every month?
2010-11-30 17:40:50
And you must have major achievements in your life.
Post edited 2010-11-30 18:30:11
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2010-11-30 18:29:45
No, i don't. But i have friends and normal life :)
2010-11-30 19:43:03
why u think they don't have this? they train for 1-2 weeks before tournaments. all other time they spend at home.
2010-11-30 20:26:56
So basically everyone that plays counter-strike don't have friends and normal lives? Pathetic logic. Why do you think your life is better than their? I bet they have awesome life, having so much to travel and so many fans, must be an exciting life I must say. They do what they enjoy and that is the main key of normal life.
2010-11-30 21:36:44
+1
2010-12-01 08:25:07
Well done boys!
2010-11-30 16:46:44
wowowowowowW very nice GG in HD
2010-11-30 16:47:47
that is big money :DD
2010-11-30 16:48:33
Any particular reason why they haven't gotten the money from WCG, IEM, WEM and GameGune yet? :(
2010-11-30 16:48:45
those companies just didnt pay yet
2010-11-30 19:58:23
Yes, I understand that, but my question is why they haven't. I hope WCG/ESL aren't broke :|
2010-11-30 20:28:22
Hard to compare on year to year basis when you take the financial crisis into consideration and the fact that the event list is very different from year to year. But very well done by NaVi of course, so a big congratulations :)
2010-11-30 16:49:06
navi getting rich, hope they start losing some i dont like rich people.
2010-11-30 16:49:23
Average salary in Sweden is 27 900 SEK afaik, which is about 4000$. Most suceccful Na'Vi player (in terms of prise money) got
46,249/12 = 3840$. So his income ( not including his salary) is lower than Swedish average (yours). Also don't forget the unpaid prizes.
46,249/12 = 3840$. So his income ( not including his salary) is lower than Swedish average (yours). Also don't forget the unpaid prizes.
2010-11-30 17:02:46
average salary is boosted by rich ppl. real average person wont make it 4000 per month :P
2010-11-30 17:10:32
Average is average, dont argue with math.
There is an progressive income tax, when rich people pay up to 60% of their income. There not so many poor people compared even to other european countries.
There is an progressive income tax, when rich people pay up to 60% of their income. There not so many poor people compared even to other european countries.
2010-11-30 17:23:04
average is average but median is median and it would be better here tho
2010-11-30 17:54:58
well if one earns 400 000$ and other three earns 0$ average will still be 100 000$ so its kinda tricky too look at it that way..
2010-11-30 18:38:47
Did you tried to read the entire post?
Average salary is calculated in every sector (construction, transport, health, manufacturing, etc).
Average salary is calculated in every sector (construction, transport, health, manufacturing, etc).
2010-11-30 18:53:01
yet that doesnt change what ive already stated lol
sooo.......
sooo.......
2010-11-30 21:05:04
OMFG what are u saying isn't connected with reality.
2010-11-30 21:46:23
dont argue with math.. (irony is cool haha)
2010-12-01 10:02:38
Lowest contract salary is around 11000 SEK, try google sometimes before bitching.
2010-12-01 10:21:44
Taxes some times go tp 60%. Taxes are very high in Europe.
2010-11-30 19:24:11
Ukraine is a much cheaper country to live in than Sweden though.
2010-11-30 17:41:45
Life in Ukraine isn't that cheap as you think, especially in big cities like Kiev, Kharkiv or Dnipropetrovsk.
2010-11-30 17:59:09
it isn't that cheap but it's still cheaper then Sweden
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2010-11-30 20:27:37
Just curious, what does a beer cost a pub in ukraine? I know your russian but I thought maybe you'd know. I always compare that when i travel to differnt countries ;D
2010-11-30 20:39:55
Depends on the pub mainly, comparable to russian prises. from ~3$ i guess
2010-11-30 21:56:05
Come to Serbia buddys Oo $1.50 max :D hahaha
2010-11-30 23:01:18
Come to the czech republic :) here you can drink best bear in the world for 1 - 1,2 dollar:) no problem
2010-12-02 03:09:10
:D orthodox ruleeeees :DDDDDD abaghahah
g
g
2010-12-02 07:30:41
However, they are not doing what they love for living =)
2010-11-30 21:30:50
So you are trying to say, that Na`Vi don't play CS because they love it, but because they care about the money? BULL FUCKING SHIT!
2010-12-01 12:30:33
I suppose you're just trolling, but if not I can rephrase my sentence:
The people he was talking about in Sweden earning ~4000 dollars a month is not doing what they love for living. Na`Vi on the other hand is doing what they love to do, for loving.
Get it?
The people he was talking about in Sweden earning ~4000 dollars a month is not doing what they love for living. Na`Vi on the other hand is doing what they love to do, for loving.
Get it?
2010-12-01 14:06:45
I think they get salaries
2010-11-30 17:10:35
ok
2010-11-30 16:49:46
Just amazing :D GG Na'Vi !
2011 FX POWAH !!!!
2011 FX POWAH !!!!
2010-11-30 16:51:15
That's a perfect example of fanboy-ism. Guy from [poland] who 'loves' his national team, says [powah]. No, wait. He SHOUTS it's [powah] and uses exclamation mark 4 times.
Dude, they came up in [2006], they were like mtw when they were winning everything in 2008 or fnatic in 2009.
- quote by ridds #10 [changes added]
Post edited 2010-11-30 18:49:13
Dude, they came up in [2006], they were like mtw when they were winning everything in 2008 or fnatic in 2009.
- quote by ridds #10 [changes added]
Post edited 2010-11-30 18:49:13
2010-11-30 18:42:52
Where EG ?
2010-11-30 19:05:34
i get a feeling that your a 12 year old noob... quit fanboying it makes you look stupid.
2010-11-30 19:14:21
thats so sad that they havent been paid yet.
How will things like these encourage more teams to play professionally and work hard like Na`Vi did.
How will things like these encourage more teams to play professionally and work hard like Na`Vi did.
2010-11-30 16:52:50
Being in the ultimate top, by winning most of the tournaments the e-sport scene has to offer, is the only thing that makes playing e-sports professionally reasonable. But If you win like 100k a year, It is getting pointless, because you can earn more money by doing normal job.
2010-11-30 16:53:06
so what? esports are funny and jobs are not and btw money isnt everything.
2010-11-30 16:55:46
Jobs can also be funny :o
2010-11-30 17:13:01
not if you compare to cs :P
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2010-11-30 17:48:03
pornstar? poker pro?
2010-11-30 21:20:36
Porn stars do not make that much of money like people love to think, when only 'acting' that is.
2010-11-30 23:09:42
yeah not all
2010-12-01 00:32:11
Did you like research about the porn industry? just curious.
2010-12-02 14:25:58
There was a documentary some time back where porn actors talked about their 'business'. They get more money through producing than through 'acting'.
2010-12-02 22:49:13
i remember zero asked one guy from esl where are their money? he answered with laugh :S
2010-11-30 16:54:02
n1
Post edited 2010-11-30 16:55:53
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2010-11-30 16:54:59
o.O nice, much money for a suck game
2010-11-30 16:55:10
I wonder how much they would have won, had they won every tournament they attended
2010-11-30 16:56:05
no look the list.
2010-11-30 17:13:58
What hes talking about, is had Na´Vi won all tournaments they attended, how much would they have won.
2010-11-30 17:17:50
"had they won every tournament they attended" then it's his own mistake :)
2010-11-30 17:27:31
Ehh? Nixon used the same words as I did, only in different order, yet you understood his post but not mine?
2010-11-30 17:35:19
your post is perfectly acceptable
2010-11-30 17:40:42
- the pricemoney is higher this year than last year
- Arbalet cup wasnt included last year
= Fnatic actually did better in 2009
- Arbalet cup wasnt included last year
= Fnatic actually did better in 2009
2010-11-30 16:58:24
This years wcg was quite muche lower(i think), but u have right in the other cases.
2010-11-30 17:11:43
mTw.AMD 2008 best line up ever
2010-11-30 17:01:10
ESL having problems paying out the money?
2010-11-30 17:02:31
i think it just takes time for them but in the end, they will pay it :P
2010-11-30 17:12:16
+ Payment every month =)
2010-11-30 17:03:25
daaaaaaamn..nice
2010-11-30 17:04:45
yeah already knew but that's f*ucking impressive, lot of money for CS.
especially considering they are Ukrainians... I remember markeloff explaining after their IEM4 victory that $50,000 were like a year salary for a surgeon in Ukraine, or something like that.
especially considering they are Ukrainians... I remember markeloff explaining after their IEM4 victory that $50,000 were like a year salary for a surgeon in Ukraine, or something like that.
2010-11-30 17:06:32
#33 pentagram did it in 2007
2010-11-30 17:06:41
If you use the 'Reply' button the user will/would know you replied to him/her ;)
2010-11-30 23:10:41
IEM 50k $ O_o
2010-11-30 17:06:54
nice story about best team on the world <3
Think they will be successful in 2011 year.
GL in future,LOVE jA (L)
Think they will be successful in 2011 year.
GL in future,LOVE jA (L)
2010-11-30 17:14:12
nice, navi the best team ever from europe/world/cs history!
the skill level they show as team and individual players is incredible to say the least. never seen so much skill and teamwork since the best matches of 2008 mTw
the skill level they show as team and individual players is incredible to say the least. never seen so much skill and teamwork since the best matches of 2008 mTw
2010-11-30 17:15:24
omg :D
moneymaker$ :))
moneymaker$ :))
2010-11-30 17:20:15
amazing :)
GG NAVI
GG NAVI
2010-11-30 17:21:41
Na`Vi .. started as underdogs with kNET and became one of the best teams in the world right now, if not the best atm.
2010-11-30 17:21:47
2005 - 3D?
2006 - NiP?
2007 - Pentagram G-Shock/MYM.PGS/now Frag eXecutors
2008 - NoA/mTw.AMD
2009 - fnatic
2010 - Na`Vi
2006 - NiP?
2007 - Pentagram G-Shock/MYM.PGS/now Frag eXecutors
2008 - NoA/mTw.AMD
2009 - fnatic
2010 - Na`Vi
2010-11-30 17:27:34
2006 - SK xD?
2010-11-30 17:31:16
2006 - fnatic team of the year award
2007 - fnatic totally best results. FX did get the team of the year award based on the first half of the year
2007 - fnatic totally best results. FX did get the team of the year award based on the first half of the year
2010-11-30 18:07:43
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow.
navi have won a lot of tournaments... Good bye old sk and fnatic... Hello navi :)
navi have won a lot of tournaments... Good bye old sk and fnatic... Hello navi :)
2010-11-30 17:27:41
they are rich btw the best team ever is SK ( potti spawn heaton snajdan ... ) they at 2003 and 2004 won all tournaments "ALL TOURNAMNETS" repeat ALL TOURNAMENTS , they aren't the best team in pricemoney bcz 6 years ago don't have 25,000 $ or to much tournaments but steel nice na vi gj ;) best team of the year and the world atm ;)
2010-11-30 17:29:33
how many TOURNAMNETS? 2-4-40? =)
2010-11-30 17:41:09
only three teams knew how to play cs back then
2010-11-30 17:47:18
bad argument imo. they were just the lvl above due to much harder practice just like Na-Vi has been this year, i meen the only teams who have really been able to touch Na-Vi a bit over a longer time has been mTw and Fnatic. So basically it's the same situation now as back then.
If you're able to follow me.
If you're able to follow me.
2010-11-30 18:00:50
SK,FX beat Na'Vi at least twice this year?
2010-11-30 19:08:15
FX beat Na´vi on Gamegune and WEM. SK beat Na´vi once i think on dreamhack summer.
2010-12-01 13:50:26
and WEM.. SK beat Na'Vi on train. exactly my point.. he is saying only mTw and fnatic were able to compete with Na'Vi.
2010-12-01 15:37:41
but those all seem more like fluckes (how do you spell it?) imo it seems like only Fnatic and mTw have been able to give Na-Vi a frequent fight throughout the year.
2010-12-01 23:25:30
I´m not deying that mtw has given fight against Na´vi. Ofcourse they have, but unfortunately they have lost every game. With some hard practise and now Arcadion as the IGL i think 2011 can be very well mtw´s year. Atleast chances na´vi to accomplish what they did this year is i´d say 1 to 1000.
As for Fnatic i think they just should practise more and come up with better stats.
SK´s only chance is to replace allen&walle. RobbaN is the IGL and he frags more than allen or walle. Delpan is a must at this point.
Ofcourse that´s just my opinion ;-)
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As for Fnatic i think they just should practise more and come up with better stats.
SK´s only chance is to replace allen&walle. RobbaN is the IGL and he frags more than allen or walle. Delpan is a must at this point.
Ofcourse that´s just my opinion ;-)
Post edited 2010-12-01 23:32:06
2010-12-01 23:29:11
i agree with you, on every lvl the chance for mTw to dominate next year is good, but to reach Na-Vi's lvl and achievements this year is almost impossible, both for the obvious reasons with the fact of Arbalet Cups ending and the CIS tournaments they can't attend and the fact tha Na-Vi as i believe is the first team ever to win the three majors (WCG, ESWC and IEM Global Finals)
and yeah Fnatics playstyle i think has become too known fron '09 and as SK goes they need some change for sure.
and yeah Fnatics playstyle i think has become too known fron '09 and as SK goes they need some change for sure.
2010-12-01 23:58:56
I think they can repeat mtw in 2008 but to achive what na´vi achived in 2010 is going to be very very very hard :D
2010-12-02 00:13:37
very very hard it is an huge accomplishment to win ESWC, WCG and IEM
2010-12-02 15:04:22
The SK from 2003 would be just as good as NaVi are now, back then there was even more teams ie; Team3D, team9, aAa, Mousesports, aTTaX, mibr, and a bunch other that were able to compete with them now all you have is SK/fnatic/mTw/NaVi with all other teams on a different level, so believe me back then SK had it much harder to achieve undisputed best team for 2 years in a row
2010-12-05 01:12:14
i agree with you very much, you even left out some teams there so they had it hard.
2010-12-05 14:01:45
ehm the line-up was: HeatoN, Potti, Fisker, Ahl, Element and Spawn as stand-in.
2010-11-30 17:59:00
looks nicely,GG :)
2010-11-30 17:34:03
gj markeloff
2010-11-30 17:35:26
best atm
2010-11-30 17:39:46
its so unfair for these guys to be on the top which needs so many hours of hard work, much more than most of jobs or sport needs and make so little money
2010-11-30 17:40:28
$220k is a small fortune in Ukraine, if what I've heard/read is correct.
2010-11-30 17:48:32
its $45k each before taxes...it cant be a small fortune even for ukraine. they are so so so underpaid compared to how difficult their archievements are.
2010-11-30 18:24:18
soo true and sad :/
2010-12-01 01:09:45
avatar's navi - $$$$
cs navi - $$$$
hm, my next startup will be called navi.
cs navi - $$$$
hm, my next startup will be called navi.
2010-11-30 17:43:00
IEM5 Main round
* bonus for a win: $ 200
* bonus for Qualify to lan-Finals: $ 750
Na`Vi > k1ck +$ 200
Na`Vi > PwR +$ 200
Na`Vi > n!faculty +$ 200
Na`Vi > no +$ 200
Na`Vi > Begrip +$ 200
1000$+750$=1750 $
Total $221,750+1,750=223,5 $$$
* bonus for a win: $ 200
* bonus for Qualify to lan-Finals: $ 750
Na`Vi > k1ck +$ 200
Na`Vi > PwR +$ 200
Na`Vi > n!faculty +$ 200
Na`Vi > no +$ 200
Na`Vi > Begrip +$ 200
1000$+750$=1750 $
Total $221,750+1,750=223,5 $$$
2010-11-30 17:49:51
hahahaaahahahahaha
2010-11-30 18:35:42
they came , they saw , they won .
2010-11-30 17:50:18
YYYYYeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaahhhhhh Na ' Vii
2010-11-30 17:52:51
Would be possible without Arbalet's involvement. thank you Arbalet!
gratz Na'Vi!!
gratz Na'Vi!!
2010-11-30 18:01:43
Wouldn't*
2010-11-30 19:10:31
All that prize money, but if you read the article alot of it is unpaid still....
sad :/
Post edited 2010-11-30 18:04:22
sad :/
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2010-11-30 18:01:53
they will atend KODE5 globals :D ? if yes , he can win one more tournament!
2010-11-30 18:05:55
navi the best team of 2011 for sure
2010-11-30 18:07:56
didnt see ur nxt reply :D
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2010-11-30 18:08:39
if no arbalet then 221550 - 60000 = 161550 < Fnatics record
thanx to mr.arbalet :D
thanx to mr.arbalet :D
2010-11-30 18:08:00
cong
they visited 9counrties in 1year thats awsome
they visited 9counrties in 1year thats awsome
2010-11-30 18:10:11
lol zerogravity winning shit $0
2010-11-30 18:16:48
World Cyber Games 2008 50 k
World Cyber Games 2010 $25,000 so bad =\
World Cyber Games 2010 $25,000 so bad =\
2010-11-30 18:16:50
It was 100k to the winner of CS 1.6 in early WCG
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2010-11-30 18:35:24
So many unpaid, shitty.
2010-11-30 18:17:58
2011 mTw imo.
2010-11-30 18:37:09
Only 220.000?
2010-11-30 18:39:38
Yeah, I thought it would be like.. atleast 400k.
2010-11-30 21:53:33
2011 will be mTw's :) GJ Na`Vi.
2010-11-30 18:40:35
Nice Na'Vi! They got a new chanse for the year 2011,cuz Arbalet wanna sponsor them till the end of 2011! And big thx to creating that kind of cs-team ;)!
2010-11-30 18:44:16
2011 is for LIONS :D
2010-11-30 18:44:36
lions suxx
2010-11-30 20:58:09
no Arbalet = NO NEW RECORD
2010-11-30 18:54:19
Prizes for WCG/ESWC/IEM European finals and Challenges are much lower this year tbh,so it's quite fair
2010-11-30 19:18:01
2011 compLexity :D
2010-11-30 18:59:04
And after this people keep saying " cs is dying bla bla bla "
44k / player in one year + their salaries ...
44k / player in one year + their salaries ...
2010-11-30 19:05:06
FNATIC will raise when they understand to kick f0rest and GuX (they are too lowskilled for nowadays cs level) and take in walle and allen. then FNATIC will dominate again :)
2010-11-30 19:15:20
nice joke. really it makes me laugh....
WTF!!!
WTF!!!
2010-11-30 19:37:33
carn is in-game leader who never make mistakes in tactics, dsn is best AWPer in the world and GET_right is best player in sweden, their 1st fragger and always saving games for them.
f0rest and GuX just are always at the end of scoreboard and loosing all important and easy duels and their skills are not even close to rest of fnatic guys. they need to be removed that fnatic can shine again..
walle and allen are best swedish players after carn, dsn and gtr, so they are best options for fnatic.. cant say this more clearly..
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f0rest and GuX just are always at the end of scoreboard and loosing all important and easy duels and their skills are not even close to rest of fnatic guys. they need to be removed that fnatic can shine again..
walle and allen are best swedish players after carn, dsn and gtr, so they are best options for fnatic.. cant say this more clearly..
Post edited 2010-11-30 19:58:41
2010-11-30 19:55:46
Not! Walle sucks (although he was good at DreamHack) and allen is quite good yes, but not as good as Gux and f0rest.
I think best swedish player is Get_right (AFAIK he has the best K/D ratio of all pro players?), and other top ones are Xizt, moddii, face, RobbaN, f0rest, Gux and manne and not allen and walle!
I think best swedish player is Get_right (AFAIK he has the best K/D ratio of all pro players?), and other top ones are Xizt, moddii, face, RobbaN, f0rest, Gux and manne and not allen and walle!
2010-11-30 20:30:58
"they need to be removed that fnatic can shine again"...
to shine again? you mean like in 2009?? mmm if im not mistaken f0rest and gux were on the team that year and walle-allen were on sk losing againts mid-level teams (pugs actually)
to shine again? you mean like in 2009?? mmm if im not mistaken f0rest and gux were on the team that year and walle-allen were on sk losing againts mid-level teams (pugs actually)
2010-11-30 23:02:57
haha spawne you make me laugh hahaha
WTF walle and allen instead of f0rest and Gux??
Back to real life men
f0rest:Gux>>>>>>>walle:allen
WTF walle and allen instead of f0rest and Gux??
Back to real life men
f0rest:Gux>>>>>>>walle:allen
2010-11-30 19:54:55
look my answer (#295). i explained how fnatic will raise again when weak links f0rest and gux are gone
2010-11-30 20:02:21
so, you say that f0rest and GuX just are always at the end of scoreboard and loosing all important and easy duels and their skills are not even close to rest of fnatic guys??
hey, I don't now what matches you are seeing from fnatic, but f0rest is on the top level of fnatic with GeT_RiGhT and Gux is on the middle like cArn...
hey, I don't now what matches you are seeing from fnatic, but f0rest is on the top level of fnatic with GeT_RiGhT and Gux is on the middle like cArn...
2010-11-30 20:15:21
hahahaha joke of year. f0rest top player on fnatic? hahahaha. he isnt even top10 player in sweden nowadays
2010-11-30 20:17:56
yeah, f0rest and GeT_RiGhT top players of fnatic.. and of course, f0rest is in top5 sweden... I think you are an oldmen that came from the past when walle was god... dude, walle isn't for sure in top 10 sweden...
2010-11-30 20:21:43
spawne go kill yourself pls :D
2010-11-30 21:28:25
lol wth, forest is by far the best player on fnatic. probably in the world. hes always carrying his team, even when his teammates avg 5-10 his score would be like 20-7 winning rounds all by himself.
2010-11-30 22:21:39
ok i had enough laugh for today :D
2010-12-01 07:07:11
Are you for real ?
2010-12-01 13:48:00
It's not easy to get to the top but its even harder to maintain the top! We'll see how they're gonna do in 2011!
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2010-11-30 19:16:03
they have motivation (Arbalet) so future looks good for them
2010-12-01 12:36:22
Too bad that arbalet is not hosting more tournaments. :(
2010-11-30 19:25:28
well, they've deserved it :)
2010-11-30 19:25:37
60k of their winnings were from arbalet tournies which will no longer be happening...dont think this record will ever be broken
Post edited 2010-11-30 19:29:55
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2010-11-30 19:29:44
Yeah, true story
Na´Vi made history 2k10
Na´Vi made history 2k10
2010-11-30 19:38:41
woooww
2010-11-30 19:30:23
This was really the Na`Vi-s year, starixn1
2010-11-30 19:53:43
http://www.satanion.dk/cs/events.html
check here. here is all story of CS events.
check here. here is all story of CS events.
2010-11-30 20:11:27
The SK that won everything, I knew it was HeatoN, Potti, Fisker and Ahl, but I'not sure of the 5th player, was it Vilden, Element or SpawN?
2010-11-30 20:25:24
SpawN :) Element was in SK for awhile.. vilden was too.. but the winning lineup was with spawN and yes they kicked ass, Na'Vi win more money, but i still think that was the best lineup ever so far, was way more international lineups back then... i miss those times.. :(
2010-11-30 20:39:34
ESWC paid, cool
2010-11-30 20:38:39
holy crap
2010-11-30 20:41:47
$_$!
2010-11-30 20:56:01
lool they are still waiting 4 iem check after 10 months :S
and i was thinking that WCG have biggest money prize
Post edited 2010-11-30 21:09:07
and i was thinking that WCG have biggest money prize
Post edited 2010-11-30 21:09:07
2010-11-30 21:02:03
2011 Power Gaming ofc :) They will surprise at the next tournament.
2010-11-30 21:17:02
Na´Vi all the way baby WOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOOOOOO
2010-11-30 21:24:48
Money Money Money $$$$$
2010-11-30 21:43:12
w0w Guys NICE !!!
2010-11-30 21:44:56
can anyone tell me where were the players of Na`Vi before it comes into existence ?
all of them........
thanx
all of them........
thanx
2010-11-30 21:46:04
starix(AG,KerchNET)
Edward(pro100,Virtus.pro,HR(a bit)
Markeloff(HR,DTS,AG(a bit)
Zeus(pro100,Virtus.pro,kerchnet(a bit,but not sure) ,dts(a bit)
ceh9(AG(several games and got kicked )))) and KerchNET
I typed only teams you may know
Post edited 2010-11-30 22:09:05
Edward(pro100,Virtus.pro,HR(a bit)
Markeloff(HR,DTS,AG(a bit)
Zeus(pro100,Virtus.pro,kerchnet(a bit,but not sure) ,dts(a bit)
ceh9(AG(several games and got kicked )))) and KerchNET
I typed only teams you may know
Post edited 2010-11-30 22:09:05
2010-11-30 22:08:17
Thanx :)
2010-12-01 15:01:51
No need for bold abuse. Thank you.
2010-11-30 23:13:21
Where's your problem if he wants to make it BOLD?
2010-12-01 14:42:18
Any abuse of the "italic", "bold", "CAPITAL" or "link" writing-features is forbidden. These functions are here to either highlight a certain passage/word of your post or to generate a link, and for nothing more.
http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=171
As you can see, it is not "my" problem.
http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=171
As you can see, it is not "my" problem.
2010-12-01 19:12:21
Nicee!!! congratulation guyz!
2010-11-30 22:19:36
Adam Małysz > Na'vi
Nice comments dude ;D
ps; Nice amazing prizes Na'vi respect from Poland ; ))
Nice comments dude ;D
ps; Nice amazing prizes Na'vi respect from Poland ; ))
2010-11-30 22:28:11
if markeloff not in team,navi sucks
2010-11-30 22:28:27
Your attitude does not seem to have improved with the change of nick....
2010-11-30 23:14:20
i am markeloff fanboy and i said without markeloff navi sucks,whats wrong this?
2010-11-30 23:15:58
ceh9
2010-11-30 22:30:25
Still Wayne Rooney earns more in a week :)
2010-11-30 22:38:43
hehehehe
2010-11-30 23:14:10
;) nice
2010-11-30 23:28:24
Some1 can actually say that Pentagram/FX is the best team ever cuz they are around for 3-4 years..They've won lots of tournaments and they are still top3 imo...FOr 2010 NaVi is with nooo doubts..
2010-11-30 23:31:00
Pentagram (FX) and Fnatic doing great since 5 years, both teams are the best in history!
2010-12-01 12:34:48
MYM to take a lead in 2011. go go Dosia, go go Fox :))
2010-11-30 23:40:25
ahahaha :DDD
2010-12-01 00:10:21
coooooooooooooool
2010-11-30 23:44:35
Sure is cooooooool ! :D
2010-12-01 02:23:50
awww <3 markeloff >.<
2010-12-29 06:45:00
OK. Now try having this ''average salary'' playing a computer game. =P
2010-12-01 00:23:11
sad that some of the tournament organizers won't pay the promised prize money
2010-12-01 00:56:43
2005 NIP?
2006 Fnatic/NIP/PGS
2007 PGS
2008 mTw
2009 Fnatic
2010 Na'VI
2011 Na'Vi probably but its impossible to dominate again like this year!
But seriusly Na'Vi players should stop with drugs if they want to exist in 2012!
Post edited 2010-12-01 03:15:31
2006 Fnatic/NIP/PGS
2007 PGS
2008 mTw
2009 Fnatic
2010 Na'VI
2011 Na'Vi probably but its impossible to dominate again like this year!
But seriusly Na'Vi players should stop with drugs if they want to exist in 2012!
Post edited 2010-12-01 03:15:31
2010-12-01 03:11:57
LOL Drugs...They on that bad stuff?
and I bet they could repeat a performence like this year, just not as great
and I bet they could repeat a performence like this year, just not as great
2010-12-01 04:25:26
surely no! this guy needs a sleep
2010-12-01 13:03:16
zeus is on ibogaine.
2010-12-01 14:40:57
Congrats to Na'vi. Edward,Zues, and Mikeloff really deserve it this year. You would never see Na'vi out of top 3 this year.
Seems like they won almost every event....Congrats!
Seems like they won almost every event....Congrats!
2010-12-01 04:23:44
crazy fanboys everywhere,rofl.hope they still use navi name next year.Sponsors're losing money to support big events,E-sport is not that easy.Think longer than just a year plz,people dont have brain to think that way.
PS:gj navi(seems former VP to me),plz dont change ur lineup,we already lose wNv,dont want to lose another clan.
Fnatic is still the best,I dont think 1 tournament gonna change anything.They are not playing as nice as the beginning of this year,but they are still leading when they play Na'vi.I think navi is catching up.
hope to see some new face clans nextyear,
PS:gj navi(seems former VP to me),plz dont change ur lineup,we already lose wNv,dont want to lose another clan.
Fnatic is still the best,I dont think 1 tournament gonna change anything.They are not playing as nice as the beginning of this year,but they are still leading when they play Na'vi.I think navi is catching up.
hope to see some new face clans nextyear,
2010-12-01 04:38:02
1 tournament ?
Haven't Na`Vi bested Fnatic at majority of the major tournaments throughout the year ? I think even Fnatic can admit that.
Haven't Na`Vi bested Fnatic at majority of the major tournaments throughout the year ? I think even Fnatic can admit that.
2010-12-01 05:34:49
total score 8-5,the whole year.rofl,plz keep up with every event.
2010-12-01 17:49:57
you wanna talk about that? lets see fnatic have won over navi more than navi won over fnatic mate.. look demo section and count
2010-12-02 10:24:01
I never, ever said overall, I simply said that in the major tournaments, Na`Vi have come out on top more often than Fnatic.
I'm not saying they're better because of this.
I'm not saying they're better because of this.
2010-12-03 05:23:36
NICE !
2010-12-01 04:38:15
Ohh My GOD! =o
2010-12-01 06:51:47
Congratulations, Na'Vi! This is a great achievement. However, Na'Vi is Not the best clan of all time as some said above, that status is reserved for -03 SK without a doubt.
2010-12-01 07:17:42
Na'vi for sure isnt best clan ever yet.. but SK 03? look how many countries attended events, USA, Scandynavia and sometimes Russia and China thats all :D Level of competition was poor also. Imo best clan of all time is Fnatic on the top since 5 years, second place for PGS the same story but less wins, on the other hand they are 4x times world champions (WCG, ESWC 2x) but still Fnatic should be number one.
2010-12-01 12:32:16
Fnatic can't won WCG 100500 years of their career. What u said about they are top1? But Na`Vi won 3 best titules of year, its record. And they beat fnatic's record in one year. So u just don't want belive it. Sorry for my bad eng.
2010-12-02 19:23:41
Na'vi is on top since January.. Fnatic is on top since years then how can be Na'vi the best team of all times its too early, if they stay on top I'll say they did first step to be the greatest team in history
2010-12-03 14:17:50
Fnatic actually did better last year. Fnatic won about 182k$ last year. Na´vi won 220k$ this year. If we count down Arbalet cups - that didn´´t exist in 2009 then Na´vi would have won total of $160k ;)
2010-12-03 23:14:28
1 year ago anybody also couldnt think of it... just fantastic. awesome team!
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2010-12-01 09:43:51
I hope they get all the money they won, but i don´t think it will happen....
2010-12-01 09:48:03
So much time spent in front of pc and 45k become "only" 45k.. because how many hours they spend playing this game and its nothing.. really.. Football players dont practice that much and still have millions.. I hope that computer gaming will be accepted as some sport, cause this is their life..
2010-12-01 12:26:30
Lol did you really say football players dont practise much ? :D
2010-12-03 00:11:14
think you need to read it again.
2010-12-05 14:17:37
I did and if I understand correctly what hes trying to say he is saying that footballplayers dont practise as much as people that play Counter-Strike professionally. This is not true...
2010-12-06 01:53:27
that depends i'd say, not many footbal players practice like 10 hours a day, unless i'm completely off and i might be, i'm not that in to football, i just understood it as a football player practice like a full working day.
2010-12-06 22:28:51
so fu**ng well done NaVi ! thanks god is not polish team :)
2010-12-01 12:37:33
GSL Starcraft 2 Winner 87,000 $ GL CS
2010-12-01 13:07:53
Guys this has attracted shitloads of sponsors for na'vi and they get to travel the world playing a game so i would not say no to this if i got the chance. :)
2010-12-01 13:22:37
there should be much more money in CS-tournaments, atleast in the major one's >F
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2010-12-01 14:37:54
To everyone who is arguing with the fact that their "income" is less than or perhaps (depending on the country) the same as an average working adult by shouting that they're "doing what they love," do you mean to say that most of the working class population world-wide is not doing something they enjoy? Is an artist upset that he has to paint for a living, or a soccer player mad that he has to kick a ball for a salary?
Please; Na`Vi did well, and they are very good players both individually and as a team, but they are part of the very, VERY small percentage of gamers that make a DECENT living from their winnings, and there are (as many have said before me) many other teams that are on the same level as Na`Vi at the moment, and I think we all know how quick esports can change in terms of global ranking.
Please; Na`Vi did well, and they are very good players both individually and as a team, but they are part of the very, VERY small percentage of gamers that make a DECENT living from their winnings, and there are (as many have said before me) many other teams that are on the same level as Na`Vi at the moment, and I think we all know how quick esports can change in terms of global ranking.
2010-12-01 17:48:03
and artists and football players make out the majority of the worlds population -.-
2010-12-05 14:15:50
I dont think Na'vi is as dominate as SK2003 that team,I mean Na vi is really strong right now,but their game style is really really boring,a lot of rounds they will save up even they have money advance,2003 SK swap every single event,also their gamestyle is a lot of faster(saving back then is better than planing bomb right now,money wise).Sure,2003's CS level and game understanding is not as mature as right now,but from fan's point of view,na'vi's demo is not interesting to watch.It's like soccor,I like Holland and Brazil's style more than france's style.
well,winning >all to them,
But slow tact to me is boring.
Post edited 2010-12-01 18:13:50
well,winning >all to them,
But slow tact to me is boring.
Post edited 2010-12-01 18:13:50
2010-12-01 18:10:37
if you looking up fast rounds, game without control of many and crazy sprays into the walls, you may be in spectators on any public cs server.
professional cs isn't for you man
professional cs isn't for you man
2010-12-02 08:13:36
wtf u talking about................
2010-12-04 18:09:53
i hope next years navi must have a new record of money :D GL!
2010-12-01 20:08:59
ahl - fisker - heaton - potti and spawn
BEst team ever and ever and ever and ever
BEst team ever and ever and ever and ever
2010-12-01 22:20:02
Element a good player, too ... but SK of "Potti time" is simply the best ...
2010-12-01 22:39:55
except that they got the best results having elemeNt in rather than spawn :)
2010-12-01 23:26:00
YES! Na'Vi is the best team in the world no boubt annymore people. markeloff best player in the world. Ukraine best at cs!!!
2010-12-01 22:42:31
agreed, agreed and WRONG!!! Ukriane is not the best at CS Sweden is by far the best country.
2010-12-05 14:09:55
The biggest cheque of 2010, still unpaid, sad...
2010-12-02 10:51:05
GJ Navi 36L )
2010-12-02 13:13:45
O my god, good job no doubt!
2010-12-02 18:32:59
o.O nice 220,000 $ are biig money!
2010-12-02 19:13:04
how can it be that they haven't recieved the money from IEM?? sounds phishi
2010-12-04 00:41:25
Yeah 45.000 a year is great money especially for playing a video game and not working full time, HOWEVER they dont see all of that money I bet they only have about 20.000 - 25.000 that they can actually touch the rest they will be fighting for months or years to recieve and then have to pay crazy high taxes, especially on those DH checks because Sweden is crazy with taxes. When it comes down to it its not a whole lot of money and I would much rather do something I hated and actually make a good living than play video games and live in a shitty apartment.
2010-12-04 21:45:16
I don't think enyone here cares about the way you want to live. There feels only envy in your article. 25k is still good money even for european standard. And i think you lie that prefer to do job u hate. I don't think enyone prefers to do damn job rather than get 25k a year. I don't know what your sources are but as i know NaVi live in very very nice flats down it town centre
2010-12-05 00:25:05
Who cares they live in nice flats in god forsaken Ukraine Id rather have a job that is a job not a dream world where I make 25,000 a year to play a video game, Id rather have a real job and make 60,000 a year and live a confortable life in NYC but thats me goodluck to them when there 50 years old and have no job experience and still living in crappy flats in some Ukraine bumblefuk town
2010-12-05 00:43:30
its not much on european standard for for ukrainian it is much. they make more money than doctors per month
2010-12-22 05:19:08
And then my mother says that cs is a lost of time ¬¬
2010-12-06 18:28:42
OMG thats a lot of money :S
2010-12-29 11:13:16
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