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HLTV.org sat down with fnatic captain Patrik "cArn" Sättermon and discussed with him the recent roster changes which affected his team.
The Swedish team recently witnessed the departures of Patrik "f0rest" Lindberg, Christopher "GeT_RiGhT" Alesund and Rasmus "Gux" Ståhl, with the first two migrating to SK Gaming, while the last one is still trying to find a solution.
To replace these players, fnatic went for Richard "Xizt" Landström and Faruk "pita" Pita, from Lions and RAGE, respectively, and free agent Marcus "Delpan" Larsson.
In this very interesting interview, Sättermon addresses the problems fnatic faced in these recent weeks, the reason Ståhl and Andreas "moddii" Fridh are not part of the new roster, and also the changes the new players will bring with them. He also pinponts Natus Vincere as one of the two reasons fnatic found success very hard to come by in 2010.
When did you learn that three of your team-mates were considering creating a team you and Harley "dsn" Orwall would not be part of?
We had planned to have a meeting right after Dreamhack despite which result we would have there. During this meeting we were informed that our ex-team mates had already contacted the SK players to form a new squad in 2011.
How did you react?The players that left FnaticMSI had come to me after WEM and informed me that they wished to replace dsn, something I first found ridiculous after us doing bad in one single tournament, and also because I believed he wasn't responsible for the internal problems we had in the team. This was also an opinion that was shared among the Fnatic management, so we all decided to talk things over and focus on the upcoming DreamHack.
That being said, after losing to Na'Vi in the quarter-finals, I knew we were going into a meeting with different meanings on how to solve the current problems, but I was still surprised that I was informed that they gave Fnatic an ultimatum that they would leave the team if dsn and I weren't replaced with RobbaN and allen.
Besides the surprise I felt, I also found it slightly amusing that me and Harley should be replaced with players who barely haven´t won anything in a very long time. It would have been much easier to grasp the situation if they would suggest upcoming talents to tag up with Fnatic, not players of the same age as me and Harley, but with much less impressive CV.
How were these last months at fnatic? Were there any problems, did you notice some of the players were not as committed as they used to be?I always thought we had the best team on the paper, incredible rifle players combined with a sniper who could turn matches around in seconds. What I think we lacked in the end was team play, we played as only our own performance matter and our communication in-game wasn't working at all with few initiative being taken by the players.
Do you think the team could have survived the way it was, or were roster changes a necessity?I think a roster change was needed after DreamHack, for sure, but it makes no sense at this point to reveal what I thought would be the best for the previous team. What happened, happened.
What do you think that went wrong and prevented fnatic from having the success it used to have, this year?Ourselves and Na'Vi. There are only two things I regret this year though but I will only go public with one here. The only reason why we lost to Na'Vi in the IEM4 finals was that we underrated them. And why did we do that? Well, no one saw them as a threat as they hadn't accomplished anything particular at that time, so we just practiced against them everyday before Hannover without saving any strategies. When we then eventually found ourselves facing them in the grand-finals we were just read completely as we had done all our stuff days before, during practice. I personally think that the game we did play at IEM4, if you exclude the grand-final, was one of the best CS we ever played in Fnatic, with a great balance of team play and aim.
I'm not a guy who goes around and regrets stuff, but if I could turn back time we should not have practiced as much against Na'Vi, and what makes this story even more interesting is that these days Na'Vi never want to practice against us, so I guess I have to say hope you enjoyed the lesson and thanks for not giving anything in return, hugs guys!
As the captain of the team, did you ever feel that after losing the support of three of your players, it was time to step down?
Losing the support as a leader is not a good sign and that makes you analyze yourself in many different ways. I think my strength (and weakness) as a leader is that I listen to the players and adapt to them, if they really like to do something I'm not gonna sit there and say "-No" even if I think it's against my tactical mindset because in my world a happy aimer is better than an uncomfortable aimer.
As I stated earlier, I think our biggest weakness as a team weren't tactics and skill but team play. Team play is every player´s responsibility to contribute to and it was here we failed. We did also experiment to swap in-game leader on some maps and let´s say that didn´t work either. To answer if I considered to step down I can honestly say no, I believe I´m great on what I´m doing but as any other I can have bad days/tournaments.
What was the reason for fnatic to prefer your project over the one which was being orchestrated by these three players?I think they went by the "blood is thicker than water"-mentality. Also they are aware that CS might only have 1-1.5 years left as the main e-sport title it is today, so it wouldn´t be right to hand over the legacy, which took years to create, to ex-SK players. I personally believe their decision to reject my ex-team members´ project was proven to be the right thing as they never actually were that loyal to each other, as they stated. This was proven last week when two of them joined up with SK, only to leave Gux behind.
How did it feel to lose two important pieces such as GeT_RiGhT and f0rest to SK, whom your team have been battling so hard over the years?It´s not really as hard to imagine as if Osama bin Laden were to have dinner in the White House with the American president, but I still find it pretty odd, as both Gux and GeT_RiGhT were treated bad by them when they played for them. But I guess it was the only choice for f0rest and GTR.
How is your relationship with them, right now?I respect the efforts and hard work they did for Fnatic. We will most likely catch up for chats during upcoming tournaments, but that´s probably it.
Gux left fnatic, but ended up not joining SK, and is currently without a team. Is there any reason you did not take him back?
He is a great player and would fit in any team when it comes to skill, but we (dsn and I) were obviously not good enough for him, so I hope he finds better team-mates in a different team.
Many people have been commenting on fnatic’s new line-up by saying you should have gone for Andreas "moddii" Fridh. Why didn’t you?If we were to listen to what everyone is thinking in terms of suitable players we would end up with a team of 25 players. People need to understand that when you create a team, you are not only looking for aim, but also, and more important, social and dedicated players who are easy to work with. It might sound like I´m excluding moddii for those reasons, but that´s not the case, as I don't know him personally. I´m just listening to what people around me say, and there should be a reason why Moddii was kicked from MYM and never got a contract from SK, as he has loads of skill.
niko said that he turned down the chance to join your team. Did his decision hurt your plans?
He was in our early plans, yes, but as he goes back a long time with his players he thought he should stay with them and I understand him why. For us, it was a small problem as we had other candidates for the spot. As you know, Pita is stepping in and I think he will do as much impact as Niko would, at least.
Fnatic has been the foundation for the Swedish talent to grow rapidly from and many of our previous additions became world-class players within a few months, as the only things they were lacking were support and qualified team-mates. I believe we in Fnatic can offer Delpan, Xizt and Pita the right circumstances to grow as players and persons and I wouldn´t be surprised if they will deliver their best CS in 2011.
How would you compare your new team with the old one?We will be less experienced but way more motivated and also more difficult to predict, as we are now forced to create a new tactical arsenal based on new individuals that come in with new opinions.
Looking at SK’s and fnatic’s roster, which would you say that looks stronger?They are stronger in some aspects and we in other.
Do you think you are more motivated to beat SK now?Obviously.
The IEM5 European Championship Finals will be your team’s first big test. How will you prepare for this event and what are your goals for the tournament?As soon as the Christmas is celebrated with family and nice food, we will go into practice season, where I estimate us playing around 8 hours daily. Our goal is of course to win it, but I know that´s a lot to wish for in a new team, just look at Fnatic 2009 and NaVi 2010, it did take time to feel comfortable with each other before the successes started to rake in.
Is there anything you would like to add?I would like to use this opportunity to send my biggest thanks to all our fans out there that has been supportive during these rough time, we will make it up for you!
Also love to Fnatic and our sponsors: MSI,SteelSeries, Bigfoot networks, Slappa and Ugame.net for being there for us! Finally, feel free to visit www.fnatic.com for more information about the most successful gaming team out there!
when it comes to communication, how can you even come up with this plan? =D
NEVER BACK DOWN , fnatic !
your da best :P
I think he has only few rivals markeloff, trace, sixeR, FalleN
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The players that left FnaticMSI had come to me after WEM and informed me that they wished to replace dsn, something I first found ridiculous after us doing bad in one single tournament,
OMG bitch f0rest>R
Gux left fnatic, but ended up not joining SK, and is currently without a team. Is there any reason you did not take him back?
He is a great player and would fit in any team when it comes to skill but we (dsn and I) were obviously not good enough for him, so I hope he find better team-mates in a different team
omg bitch Gux
i understand now this guys how ridiculous
i agree with that.
Post edited 2010-12-13 20:11:07
Sorry for bad language ^^
my guess is that Na'Vi will have to work harder than ever in 2011 to remain on top because of them
Post edited 2010-12-13 16:40:14
But yea I agree on that, they have to work harder then ever :)
This has always been puzzling me. I already know that f0rest and GTR was the reason from the beginning but I just don't understand why would GTR go back to SK. SK obviously did something to get him back. Seriously SK is a selfish organization and I feel sorry for people who say that gux backstabbed SK when they know nothing about SK's history.
Gux should have just stayed in fnatic. All his talent would be a waste if he keeps doing what he's doing now...
I've been in love with fnatic CS team for a long time, most because of their dedication for the game, the team-members's chemistry both in-game and social life. I thought this chemistry would make the team as a whole for ages but for now, 3 guys decided to "move-on" on a different direction. I still respect them for what they'd done for fnatic, but not the kind of respect for the loyalty and team-united-spirit of which I was mistakenly assumed they would have.
And for carn and dsn, I may see that bittersweet feeling u guys probably are having right now. May that give you two and the new guys the needed motivation, as u stated in the interview, to strive for new success. Good luck <3 fnatic!!!
EDIT: As I don't like so much DSN's awp, but I feel sad about him. I've to say that because f0rest and GTR was just stupid reaction!
And, you (f0rest and GTR), if it is true what cArn said you just have aim.
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pita's words but I presume cArn is who decided it in the end.
It's actually carn I guess
Still I think if there his problem should stay between him and his ex-mates, no need to attack robban & allen for just having been chosen by them
If you think that what he said was arrogance then you probably have low self-confidence.
Carn has always been somewhat arrogant and self-confident. Not to say thats a bad thing, it helped him win and stay on top with his team. He was never rude though, unlike Archi who was a dick all around.
"It would have been much easier to grasp the situation if they would suggest upcoming talents to tag up with Fnatic, not players of the same age as me and Harley, but with much less impressive CV."
and although i understand carn, i still feel bad for moddii (and gux to some extent), such beast of a player and no one wants him... :(
GTR
Edward
Neo
Moddii
Roman
cArn sounds bitter? I think he sounds surprised and he is probably dissappointed with the fact that people aren't mature enough to speak with him directly and give proper arguments to their opinions. Instead, people apparently chose to make demands and ultimatums, even after many years of playing together and (supposedly) becoming friends. I understand that this is only one interview with cArn and it is impossible to say what exactly happened, but that seems to be the case.
Well, it happens pretty much everywhere in life that when it gets tough you truly see who are your friends and who can be mentally strong and face challenges directly, instead of speaking behind people's backs.
About moddii, i really doubt delpan or Xizt had a say in the selection of the last member. It was carn and dsn rebuilding the team, all along.
Obviously cArn wants this team to work through communication, in-game and out. You can't have that if one / two players don't get along, which is clearly seen in this case. I don't blame cArn for not picking moddii, I'm more than sure he has his reasons. Skill isn't the most important aspect of Counter-Strike.
Post edited 2010-12-13 01:47:40
Just because MYM kicked him (maybe some dispute?) and that SK didn't offer him a contract (we all know what SK is made of) doesn't mean he is not 'social'....
He has not even played in a truly top team and he is already better than most (personally I think 'best', in terms of aiming)...think about what he can do with a good team and a leader like carn...he can possibly be the best cs player we have ever seen..who knows...
and seriously pita? He is good but there are much better players in Sweden...and with much more potential
Taking a young insane talent and moulding him into a member of a world class team will always give better returns...
Post edited 2010-12-13 09:38:47
I repeat, it's not all about skill!
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Talking about reliable players....what about Gux who played in SK for quite some time, got them some important victories against fnatic from where he had moved (in which he was really animated to say the least) and then it comes to light he hasn't even signed the contract! And then joins fnatic saying "this is my home" LOL...That is what I call unreliable!!
Anyway I hope pita works out fine for you guys...he is a nice guy, no doubt...I just have my doubts whether he can compete with the likes of Navi and the new SK....maybe I will be proven wrong....
lol gux got screwed in this whole saga.. he went along with forp and gtr & in the end, the two of them left him behind.. still he can do a lot of damage with lions so he isnt screwed as much as moddii is.. :(
now with delpan, pita, xizt fnatic hav three extremely sick players.. imo dsn was the most consistent player in fnatic last year.. their success will depend upon their chemistry and how well carn is able to adapt to these three tactically..
lots of bad blood now in these teams.. 2011 is gonna be more insane than ever!!
on paper, i would say SK is strongest obvly.. however, as a TEAM, lions is better.. in fact if these teams were to play right now, lions will beat both SK and fnatic as they hav only one player replaced and will still hav pretty good teamplay..
Post edited 2010-12-12 23:28:54
but the thing is, that's wasting his number one skill which is rifling....
If SK would have picked up Delpan in place of allen, I would be ready to bet that this team would soon be unbeatable...
haha owned... nice interview.. gl carn & fnatic... 2011 is gonna be so much fun..
GL fnatic 2010!
good interview though
hell yeah, i hope fnatic will kick sk asses
+1 =D
No he didn't, his team did. Of course he was a part of the team.
But who can say that RobbaN/allen wouldn't also have won those titles with players like Get_right and f0rest in their team?
Present Skill > "CV", imo.
Thats was realy dumb and imature thing to say in an interview. And hes doing it again, underestimating players(robban & allen) just like he did with navi. Good job carn, you gonna fail once again..
watching SK taking fnatic apart will be fun
ROFL :P
"get rid of that bitch, he ain't good enough" :P
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cArn prove he is one of best players in the world and one of greates personality in e-sport :)
Respect man and i hope you will pwn new SK ,but u have to do big work with these new player , because with their potential u can dominate CS in 2011 :)
+1 my opinion is the same what is yours
"and what makes this story even more interesting is that these days Na'Vi never want to practice against us, so I guess I have to say hope you enjoyed the lesson and thanks for not giving anything in return, hugs guys!"
Post edited 2010-12-12 23:05:39
Why is everyone singling out NaVi?
The fact that they refused to practice vs fnatic disgusts me. I know you have to be at the top of your game through every means but if fnatic helped you before, when you were not yet the star team of today, by practicing with you, it is only fair for you to do the same.
Agree! Stupid to blame on dsn, the whole team did't work anymore. Nice to see some moves, to get sweden back on the top!
when it comes to skill but we (dsn and I) were obviously not good enough for him
ps.: im no fanboy of navi, i just stated facts here. :D
Post edited 2010-12-12 23:17:50
I am sure carn will build a team that will make lot of domage
Gl CARn GL fnatic :D
fnatic= Barcelona
Gl both teams
Xizt = David Villa
Post edited 2010-12-12 23:36:08
Guess this just shows how stupid the trio who left are, thinking that fnatic would just ditch carn and dsn who pretty much build the fnatic brand for them, to build a team around players who clearly aren't capable to keep their end of deals. And double the stupid for Gux for even considering that SK would welcome him back. Like really, what the F were you thinking? Then again, trying get back to SK was probably the last card he had in his sleeve after burning pretty much every bridge behind him with the ultimatum and everything. Only hope for him in the future is that the swedes get their third top-team with him in it, because I hardly think that fnatic or SK will be taking him under their wings even after "the old boys" retire.
For the moment, the only ones winning here are probably GTR and f0rest who almost got what they wanted, but the reality will probably smack them in the face soon enough. Somehow I have the feeling that carn and his team will pull through this as the winners, maybe not after the first tournaments of the year but eventually. Until then, Na'Vi is going to have a field day till the swedes get their act together.
In other news, I'd really really really like to see an interview with Walle about all this happening. I'm guessing he would have a thing or two to say, and considering his legacy and all, he really should get some attention too here. I mean, he's been around for something closer to a decade, and he has just quietly been swept away? Only thing keeping him from expressing his opinions freely could be that he's going to stay at SK behind the scenes, but considering that this probably wasn't really a happy ending between him and the other players in SK, I hardly think that he would have the motivation to work with them in the future.
Post edited 2010-12-13 00:05:13
Gux fan :D
Agreed, i'd like to hear something from Walles point of view too. He seems to have been quietly put on the shelf with nothing much made of it.
But also a f0rest and GTR interview would also be quite interesting, obviously.
Good luck to fnatic in 2011, still back them 100% - Never paid much attention to Pita, will be fun to watch.
and I feel the same about f0rest.
I would never have imagined he would just leave fnatic like that, it really surprised me, more than any other CS-related news I have ever read.
Ourselves and Na'Vi.
LOL
Cheers.
But I'm not sure.
Post edited 2010-12-13 00:00:56
its now upto Xizt and pita to show what they are capable of.
GL fnatic
Now, fnatic, let's own SK, and GL cArn and dsn.
Prove me wrong.
*Knock Knock*
Whose There?
Gux
PISS OFF
*Knock Knock*
Who's there?
forest + Get Right
"Come in come in! Have some cookies, some tea...oh you like my daughter? Take her"
"hey, forest, you like that chick?"
"eeeeeh... eeeeehhh, yeah..."
Post edited 2010-12-13 08:10:07
SK - "Who's there?"
GuX - "Balloon boy"
SK opens
SK - "ugh, get out of here you fu*king bastard"
GuX - :(
wish you the best of luck carn with your new team.
<3
gl carn and the others <3
He is a great player and would fit in any team when it comes to skill, but we (dsn and I) were obviously not good enough for him, so I hope he find better team-mates in a different team.
R4P3D
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2)cArn: "in my world a happy aimer is better than an uncomfortable aimer."
it seems that didn't work very well, the happy aimers were doing happy plans to leave fnatic without any aimer!
EXACTLY
that's exactly how I felt when I learned about it...
I just don't get it. WHY THOSE GUYS FFS ?
chemistry is important but there are much more skilled and talented players, and I'm pretty sure most of them are nice persons too.
thanks a lot for the interview, I really wanted some sort of explanation, feels good :)
f0rest will always be my favorite player but the way all of this happened just makes me want to keep supporting fnatic (and believe it or not, I'm also the creator/admin of gtr's facebook page so it's kind of a weird situation for me).
maybe one day I'll support the new SK line-up but I doubt it will happen as long as RobbaN and allen are part of it.
Post edited 2010-12-13 00:47:24
They have forgotten why they played CS 1.6 in the first place.
those quoted words says its all...
It just not make any sense to replace carn and dsn with Robban and Allen.
Okay fine Forrest wanted to play with robban but why now?its not like robban and forest are soul mates.
And stupid stupid GuX after all that drama we were assuming he learned lesson but....
Well now my support is with fnatic.Hope they beat SK.
and stop pls thats comments "fnatic game over" etc. :p thank u! also i will watch all your matches and will cheer you:)
25 vs 5, total ownage Patrik! ;D
Looking forward to read the other side of the story....
Great answer :)
Also i could say compairing fnatic2009 vs fnatic2010
the 2010 carn was generally better as aim and still the best igl, dsn and gux same as 2009 and gtr-f0rest was the two who playd worst than 2009.
i'm really anticipating fnatic vs sk and hopefully the carn's wrath to f0rest and gtr
On a personal note, i really think fnatic could have used a mad fragger in their line up, -pita +moddii too bad hes a douche.
This bit really got my personal motivation down knowing that this game wont be around for long.
gl fnatic <3
I hope and pray the new fnatic becomes a huge success , hard times is ahead with adapting and practising to finf the winning formula, but its possible. rockon fnatic!!!! chomp on SK!
and i thought that cArn was smart, but that interview really pointed out how smart he is after all: Claiming that Navi dominated this year (and they didnt), because of IEM4 is the most ridiculous thing what i have ever heard hahahahaa
maybe he should change his nick name from cArn to:
Patrik "brainy" Sättermon :)
Post edited 2010-12-13 03:06:44
Haven't seen any post at this quality for such a long long time xDDD
:/
He seems really frustuated with how the whole year ended,but on a good note,they now have the best defensive ct side,thanx to 2 of the top 5 awpers in the same team.
GL Fnatic.
Post edited 2010-12-13 03:35:14
but gl!
cArn and dsn won't let it go down \m/
GL People , waiting for 31st Jan , Letz see how New SK co-ordinates :P
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love how he used "my ex-teammates" he must hate them lol.
Post edited 2010-12-13 08:10:58
face locks down all the small bombsites by himself, and he's still one of the best aimers in the game
Post edited 2010-12-13 09:18:11
I don't want to practice with you because I don't want to show you my new tactics and let you study my game. Am I being unreasonable?
ROFLMAO
cArn <3
I'm not a guy who goes around and regrets stuff, but if I could turn back time we should not have practiced as much against Na'Vi, and what makes this story even more interesting is that these days Na'Vi never want to practice against us, so I guess I have to say hope you enjoyed the lesson and thanks for not giving anything in return, hugs guys!
Hahaha this is the best part of the interview.
Lesson to be learnt :
i. Master the art of deception and Ur team will turn out to be better.... :D
ii. Never f___ around with smarter individuals.... :P
i adore the players in SK due of their skills but fnatic is really likeable as a team.
so i hope fnatic will perform well and maybe win SK at one time or another.
i just think that carn and dsn can help out to boost the skill of the other 3 players a lot and they all will grow as a person and as a player and hopefully the chemistry in the team will match and they'll be able to do lots of damage international and national!
wish all the best for fnatic to end up the era of "living CS1.6" as a successfull team with a permanent impression.
fnatic absolutely my favourite team now. without any doubt
Post edited 2010-12-13 10:17:08
Thats was realy dumb and imature thing to say in an interview. And hes doing it again, underestimating players(robban & allen) just like he did with navi. Good job carn, you gonna fail once again..
watching SK taking fnatic apart will be fun
Post edited 2010-12-13 10:33:19
Comparing CV is pretty stupid, WeMadeFOX can be a good example for that.
lets see how they play together cant imagine that dsn wanna be the 2nd awp in the team hf by h8n me
Again, <3 fnatic!!!
Besides, GTR isn't what he used to be. Can't remember the last time he was actually good
I hope they give SK a good trashing, which imo is more than likely to happen. CS is not about aim all that much, which I assumed f0rest & co. knew but apparently not.
Goodluck fnaticMSI and the best IGL in world, cArn.
:).
Carn overrates him self and looks like he was fucked, p00r c@rn :DD
actually i'm a bit dissapointed about the conflict inside of the team... and in my opinion dsn and carn were always an important part of fnatic, and replacing them was stupid... i really hope that 2011 will a really good year for a new line-up and with help of Delpan and Xizt they will be on top...
delpan, get_right, threat, gux, f0rest
gux, moddii, dennis, manne, threat
trace, arcadion, karrigan, sunde, zonic
than danish lineup could be the very best
Post edited 2010-12-13 12:35:11
As soon as the Christmas is celebrated with family and nice food, we will go into practice season, where I estimate us playing around 8 hours daily
Then i think they can have a chance. Still its not that much practise.
cArn great player!!! gl new fnatic.
About cArn having a arrogant style of interpretation; I think he knows that he isnt at a (aim)level like f0rest or GTR. But his experience, dedication and important presence brings some kind of aura towards his team.
If you read this interview carefully.. wow! f0rest played years with them and had such a good chemistry with all. In just wink it's all gone...
Though it was time for a change. Looking forward to this clash of the titans: SK vs fnatic
Post edited 2010-12-13 14:08:52
Fnatic had an amazing player pool to pick from in Sweden and yet they are content with keeping burnout players like dsn in their ranks. Loyalties can only take you so far.. And this is an example of when ties should have been cut. We all know carn is one of the greatest leaders of all time, but in this circumstance he has made a poor judgement call and just like the IEM4 finals he and his team will be punnished again.
Post edited 2010-12-13 14:25:13
When they fail in early 2011 hopefully dsn gets the chop as well as pita and they can get moddii and gux in the team.
delpan > all indeed
nick f0rest and get_right will shadow face, also robban, the same as they did with gux.
fnatic has 4 great players and one igl.
THEY'll DOMINATE
That could help a lot of people in here ..
NOW the big question is wheather the new SK "<" or ">" Navi.
but he will retire this year for sure :)
Bad karma for forest who tried to "retire" cArn and dsn to form his own dreamteam.
But SK vs fnatic - main swedish battle!
Post edited 2010-12-13 17:41:07
team3d the best! :D
Post edited 2010-12-13 17:48:45
hmm thats not nice from navi...
Ah, ok! Gux was treated very very bad by SK!
???
na'vi is not having friendly matches with fnatic is because of the same reason he regrets training with them, showing their strats and weaknesses to other teams.
SK--->fnatic
and lions with gux-sk and fnatic :P
after reading what carn said im actually kinda feeling for/with the guy. he (and harley) got brutally backstabbed because of bad results and, from what i can gather, by the players whose own fault it was. quite ridiculous if you think about it.
if these two will match-up in the IEM eu finals i dont know who to cheer on. my brain says SK but my heart says fnatic.
Post edited 2010-12-14 12:37:33
Fuck SK.
Go fnatic and Lions!
yes,cArn is really great guy,shame for f0rest and gtr
Carn, that proves you are a dumb nub >.<
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adK10n6dS0k
Delpan and pita fragmovie
http://www.fnatic.com/tv/446/pita-Delpan-fragmovie-Twisted-syndicate.html
Awesome frags. Hope that fnatic can do some serious damage with them
pita is a very smart and safe-playing rifler like ins was, while Xizt on the other hand is very much alike Archi with everything that includes. last but not least i definitely think Delpan - if he's given enough time - can start to dominate games and carry his team to tournament victories just like f0rest did those 2+ years.
it's not realistic to think they will win competition after competition like in 2009, but i think ... no, i KNOW that they will perform better this year than they did these past 12 months.
Post edited 2010-12-15 01:08:19
+ keiz
Imo it would be better roster.
Coming soon..
ps to carN: recruit neo or bail instead, with them on fnatic who need the overrated communication skill cmon cs player isnt salesperson :P
DSN - Camper
Delpan - Sniper
Xizt - Pistoler
Pita - Sprayer
look at carns facebook fanpage, you'll be depressed lmfao.

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