cArn: "We will be more motivated"
By: MIRAA
Time: 2010-12-12 22:30
Game: Counter-Strike 1.6

HLTV.org sat down with fnatic captain Patrik "cArn" Sättermon and discussed with him the recent roster changes which affected his team.

The Swedish team recently witnessed the departures of Patrik "f0rest" Lindberg, Christopher "GeT_RiGhT" Alesund and Rasmus "Gux" Ståhl, with the first two migrating to SK Gaming, while the last one is still trying to find a solution.

To replace these players, fnatic went for Richard "Xizt" Landström and Faruk "pita" Pita, from Lions and RAGE, respectively, and free agent Marcus "Delpan" Larsson.

In this very interesting interview, Sättermon addresses the problems fnatic faced in these recent weeks, the reason Ståhl and Andreas "moddii" Fridh are not part of the new roster, and also the changes the new players will bring with them. He also pinponts Natus Vincere as one of the two reasons fnatic found success very hard to come by in 2010. 

When did you learn that three of your team-mates were considering creating a team you and Harley "dsn" Orwall would not be part of?

We had planned to have a meeting right after Dreamhack despite which result we would have there. During this meeting we were informed that our ex-team mates had already contacted the SK players to form a new squad in 2011.

How did you react?

The players that left FnaticMSI had come to me after WEM and informed me that they wished to replace dsn, something I first found ridiculous after us doing bad in one single tournament, and also because I believed he wasn't responsible for the internal problems we had in the team. This was also an opinion that was shared among the Fnatic management, so we all decided to talk things over and focus on the upcoming DreamHack.

That being said, after losing to Na'Vi in the quarter-finals, I knew we were going into a meeting with different meanings on how to solve the current problems, but I was still surprised that I was informed that they gave Fnatic an ultimatum that they would leave the team if dsn and I weren't replaced with RobbaN and allen.

Besides the surprise I felt, I also found it slightly amusing that me and Harley should be replaced with players who barely haven´t won anything in a very long time. It would have been much easier to grasp the situation if they would suggest upcoming talents to tag up with Fnatic, not players of the same age as me and Harley, but with much less impressive CV.

How were these last months at fnatic? Were there any problems, did you notice some of the players were not as committed as they used to be?

I always thought we had the best team on the paper, incredible rifle players combined with a sniper who could turn matches around in seconds. What I think we lacked in the end was team play, we played as only our own performance matter and our communication in-game wasn't working at all with few initiative being taken by the players.

Do you think the team could have survived the way it was, or were roster changes a necessity?

I think a roster change was needed after DreamHack, for sure, but it makes no sense at this point to reveal what I thought would be the best for the previous team. What happened, happened.

What do you think that went wrong and prevented fnatic from having the success it used to have, this year?

Ourselves and Na'Vi. There are only two things I regret this year though but I will only go public with one here. The only reason why we lost to Na'Vi in the IEM4 finals was that we underrated them. And why did we do that? Well, no one saw them as a threat as they hadn't accomplished anything particular at that time, so we just practiced against them everyday before Hannover without saving any strategies. When we then eventually found ourselves facing them in the grand-finals we were just read completely as we had done all our stuff days before, during practice. I personally think that the game we did play at IEM4, if you exclude the grand-final, was one of the best CS we ever played in Fnatic, with a great balance of team play and aim.

I'm not a guy who goes around and regrets stuff, but if I could turn back time we should not have practiced as much against Na'Vi, and what makes this story even more interesting is that these days Na'Vi never want to practice against us, so I guess I have to say hope you enjoyed the lesson and thanks for not giving anything in return, hugs guys!

As the captain of the team, did you ever feel that after losing the support of three of your players, it was time to step down?

Losing the support as a leader is not a good sign and that makes you analyze yourself in many different ways. I think my strength (and weakness) as a leader is that I listen to the players and adapt to them, if they really like to do something I'm not gonna sit there and say "-No" even if I think it's against my tactical mindset because in my world a happy aimer is better than an uncomfortable aimer.

As I stated earlier, I think our biggest weakness as a team weren't tactics and skill but team play. Team play is every player´s responsibility to contribute to and it was here we failed. We did also experiment to swap in-game leader on some maps and let´s say that didn´t work either. To answer if I considered to step down I can honestly say no, I believe I´m great on what I´m doing but as any other I can have bad days/tournaments.

What was the reason for fnatic to prefer your project over the one which was being orchestrated by these three players?

I think they went by the "blood is thicker than water"-mentality. Also they are aware that CS might only have 1-1.5 years left as the main e-sport title it is today, so it wouldn´t be right to hand over the legacy, which took years to create, to ex-SK players. I personally believe their decision to reject my ex-team members´ project was proven to be the right thing as they never actually were that loyal to each other, as they stated. This was proven last week when two of them joined up with SK, only to leave Gux behind.

How did it feel to lose two important pieces such as GeT_RiGhT and f0rest to SK, whom your team have been battling so hard over the years?

It´s not really as hard to imagine as if Osama bin Laden were to have dinner in the White House with the American president, but I still find it pretty odd, as both Gux and GeT_RiGhT were treated bad by them when they played for them. But I guess it was the only choice for f0rest and GTR.

How is your relationship with them, right now?

I respect the efforts and hard work they did for Fnatic. We will most likely catch up for chats during upcoming tournaments, but that´s probably it.

Gux left fnatic, but ended up not joining SK, and is currently without a team. Is there any reason you did not take him back?

He is a great player and would fit in any team when it comes to skill, but we (dsn and I) were obviously not good enough for him, so I hope he finds better team-mates in a different team.

Many people have been commenting on fnatic’s new line-up by saying you should have gone for
Andreas "moddii" Fridh. Why didn’t you?

If we were to listen to what everyone is thinking in terms of suitable players we would end up with a team of 25 players. People need to understand that when you create a team, you are not only looking for aim, but also, and more important, social and dedicated players who are easy to work with. It might sound like I´m excluding moddii for those reasons, but that´s not the case, as I don't know him personally. I´m just listening to what people around me say, and there should be a reason why Moddii was kicked from MYM and never got a contract from SK, as he has loads of skill.

niko said that he turned down the chance to join your team. Did his decision hurt your plans?

He was in our early plans, yes, but as he goes back a long time with his players he thought he should stay with them and I understand him why. For us, it was a small problem as we had other candidates for the spot. As you know, Pita is stepping in and I think he will do as much impact as Niko would, at least.

Fnatic has been the foundation for the Swedish talent to grow rapidly from and many of our previous additions became world-class players within a few months, as the only things they were lacking were support and qualified team-mates. I believe we in Fnatic can offer Delpan, Xizt and Pita the right circumstances to grow as players and persons and I wouldn´t be surprised if they will deliver their best CS in 2011.

How would you compare your new team with the old one?

We will be less experienced but way more motivated and also more difficult to predict, as we are now forced to create a new tactical arsenal based on new individuals that come in with new opinions.

Looking at SK’s and fnatic’s roster, which would you say that looks stronger?

They are stronger in some aspects and we in other.

Do you think you are more motivated to beat SK now?

Obviously.

The IEM5 European Championship Finals will be your team’s first big test. How will you prepare for this event and what are your goals for the tournament?

As soon as the Christmas is celebrated with family and nice food, we will go into practice season, where I estimate us playing around 8 hours daily. Our goal is of course to win it, but I know that´s a lot to wish for in a new team, just look at Fnatic 2009 and NaVi 2010, it did take time to feel comfortable with each other before the successes started to rake in.

Is there anything you would like to add?

I would like to use this opportunity to send my biggest thanks to all our fans out there that has been supportive during these rough time, we will make it up for you!
Also love to Fnatic and our sponsors: MSI,SteelSeries, Bigfoot networks, Slappa and Ugame.net for being there for us! Finally, feel free to visit www.fnatic.com for more information about the most successful gaming team out there!


nice, hope they will be better than SK!
2010-12-12 22:32:55
can't wait to see the next match between SK and fnatic
2010-12-13 02:00:44
Yeah, one more clush between ex-mates. P.S it would be very nice if fnatic added Adren. He is very good in terms of communication with people and cs definitely.
2010-12-13 05:27:30
ahahaha good idea
2010-12-13 07:18:38
he doesnt speak swedish so how could a fast and good communication ingame work ??
2010-12-13 07:57:31
and AdreN is in china right now.... he gonna study there for some time
2010-12-13 13:23:23
skillwise, yes, add adreN
when it comes to communication, how can you even come up with this plan? =D
2010-12-13 22:33:42
AdreN doesnt need communication .... cArn only needs to say "go kill everyone and meet me back at spawn in 45 seconds" :P
2010-12-14 09:24:24
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, true joke mate :DDDD
2010-12-14 10:45:51
^_^
2010-12-14 11:39:16
yeah :)
NEVER BACK DOWN , fnatic !
your da best :P
2010-12-13 06:04:12
now that delpan has a good team he will take everyone to school with that big green... i predict no one saing markeloff's name for the best awper in two months...
2010-12-13 07:14:13
markefoll the best awp ever
2010-12-13 10:16:55
i bet you've only been playing cs for the last 2 years at most...ur opinion is meaningless
2010-12-13 15:07:21
markelON > delpan fo sho.. You're wrong!
2010-12-13 18:02:26
markelof > delphan?:D hah ;)
2010-12-17 17:50:45
totally agree Delpan > a lot of snipers
I think he has only few rivals markeloff, trace, sixeR, FalleN
2010-12-13 16:36:04
Walle?
2010-12-13 18:12:20
Walle retired..and he is not competition for Delpan NOWadays
2010-12-13 18:59:17
frod..
2010-12-14 13:01:31
Seriously I missed him on purpose Its hard think about it but his skills are downgrading I was his fan but he didnt show me this year him in a good shape
2010-12-24 21:42:31
I hope so too, and I can see a lack of professionalism from those players (you know who), who left the team because they didn`t liked how some players played during last months.Hope they will continue the "great"(not) form that SK had in the last months :)).GL Fnatic!

Post edited 2010-12-13 20:02:37
2010-12-13 20:02:04
+1111111111111111111111111
2010-12-14 12:30:53
by: hx :)
#6
yes but SK will CR4SH YOU
2010-12-12 22:33:10
I hope fnatic wins everything in the future. They have that core of players (carn and dsn) that seems to build young counter-strike stars. For me it looks like fnatic are a more familiar and loyal team while SK are just the commercial side of the game. I truly think that friendship beetwen team members is very, very, important. But don't get me wrong... I do love f0rest and GTR's playing style, as well as RobaN allen and face's, but... where's the team chemistry?
2010-12-13 15:28:04
where's the team chemistry? seriously? before f0rest joined fnatic he was playing for begrip i think, ROBBAN was his IGL there. Allen plays with robban since i dont know 2006 maybe, get_right is playing with forest since 2009 and played with allen and robban before in SK, and face cmon face played with all of this guys already.. so everybody wanted this to happen, allen, robban, face, f0rest and GT, team chemistry wont be their biggest problem in 2011... and yeah, they will crush fnatic to the ground!!
2010-12-13 15:52:11
Maybe you're right.. They do have have team chemistry in pairs - robban with allen, f0rest with GTR ... But I don't feel they have a global team chemistry... I don't know how to explain mate... However, I don't like Delpan from team fnatic, I never did. This is all a mess, carn was playing SO good lately and he is a great IGL. Nevermind, I'm still hoping for fnatic to win the swedish duel however I DO think that SK will most probably be the winners. This will be interesting to see, Na'Vi had all those teams studied and now a new arsenal of tactics will explode. They seem to have the advantage, but I'm curious to see how they will adapt.
2010-12-13 17:05:47
Will be fun to see Delpanoff again.
2010-12-12 22:33:16
and pitaSHO ^^
2010-12-12 22:34:15
and GT_RSHO, lets see what SK will do with fnatic. :)
2010-12-12 23:16:38
Hey, sweedes =)) What is SHO???

Post edited 2010-12-13 04:50:07
2010-12-13 04:49:57
4sure?
2010-12-13 10:15:45
Like the other one said, can mean for sure, and SHO, its like a "slang" to say hello.

SHO MANNEN ;PpPppPp
2010-12-13 14:03:04
thanks
2010-12-13 15:29:58
will be fun to see..
2010-12-12 22:35:56
nice xD
2010-12-12 22:36:22
Dont know why it was deleted but once more - it is a bit long, but nice reading. Maybe because fnatic became my DreamTeam now :D
2010-12-12 22:36:58
great interview , but fnatic without f0rest isn't fnatic anymore imho
2010-12-12 22:38:33
+1
2010-12-12 23:22:54
i just wanted to say that and then i saw your comment :D
2010-12-13 04:36:02
Nice interview! But I personally think that Lions will be stronger than fnatic, at least for now. still the best of luck to fnatic
2010-12-12 22:39:18
How did you react?

The players that left FnaticMSI had come to me after WEM and informed me that they wished to replace dsn, something I first found ridiculous after us doing bad in one single tournament,

OMG bitch f0rest&GTR

Gux left fnatic, but ended up not joining SK, and is currently without a team. Is there any reason you did not take him back?

He is a great player and would fit in any team when it comes to skill but we (dsn and I) were obviously not good enough for him, so I hope he find better team-mates in a different team

omg bitch Gux

i understand now this guys how ridiculous
2010-12-12 22:39:26
its easy to see just one see of the story :P
2010-12-12 22:40:21
side
2010-12-12 22:45:36
one "side" :P

i agree with that.
2010-12-12 23:03:11
Oh wait, the villain in the story is cArn of course!

Post edited 2010-12-13 20:11:07
2010-12-13 20:10:51
maybe there were conflicts between them, you never know
2010-12-12 22:47:04
true dat
2010-12-12 23:18:01
But as he said ,, With a good awper, you can easily turn on a game in few secounds '' And they surely got 1 or 2 Delpan and dsn, and they still got the same leader Carn, and dsn is still there, he had had some awesome tornements 2 and pita and xitz can 2 if it comes 2 it :)
Sorry for bad language ^^
2010-12-13 01:07:33
1 good awper is enough. They'll be awesome on de_train... but the new SK will be stronger in everything on the other maps
2010-12-13 14:49:58
Sk will be better, but I dont think they will be much better than fnatic.
2010-12-13 16:28:11
we'll see ;)

my guess is that Na'Vi will have to work harder than ever in 2011 to remain on top because of them

Post edited 2010-12-13 16:40:14
2010-12-13 16:39:49
My guess is, they will for sure, be the best for the first 3 months, then we'll see ;)
But yea I agree on that, they have to work harder then ever :)
2010-12-13 19:04:17
I think Na'Vi will remain the best for the first half of the year at least
2010-12-13 22:03:17
This team played toghter for Sweeden before, so it wouldnt be that hard :P
2010-12-14 20:13:39
"I personally believe their decision to reject my ex-team members´ project was proven to be the right thing as they never actually were that loyal to each other, as they stated. This was proven last week when two of them joined up with SK, only to leave Gux behind."

This has always been puzzling me. I already know that f0rest and GTR was the reason from the beginning but I just don't understand why would GTR go back to SK. SK obviously did something to get him back. Seriously SK is a selfish organization and I feel sorry for people who say that gux backstabbed SK when they know nothing about SK's history.

Gux should have just stayed in fnatic. All his talent would be a waste if he keeps doing what he's doing now...
2010-12-13 00:24:03
You've got the point .
2010-12-13 02:28:42
I do have the same opinion as yours. The decision of gtr to move back to SK is something so weird, especially after "the-famous-rejected-hi5" he got back to the time he played for SK, so does forest as he'd been in fnatic for a long long time and i'm pretty sure he's one among those who most understand the rivalry between 2 organizations.

I've been in love with fnatic CS team for a long time, most because of their dedication for the game, the team-members's chemistry both in-game and social life. I thought this chemistry would make the team as a whole for ages but for now, 3 guys decided to "move-on" on a different direction. I still respect them for what they'd done for fnatic, but not the kind of respect for the loyalty and team-united-spirit of which I was mistakenly assumed they would have.

And for carn and dsn, I may see that bittersweet feeling u guys probably are having right now. May that give you two and the new guys the needed motivation, as u stated in the interview, to strive for new success. Good luck <3 fnatic!!!
2010-12-13 02:48:04
I'll second that
2010-12-13 14:16:03
well... seems that there were social problems within the team which meant that a change was needed. Probably were f0rest & GTR sure to have the support of the fnatic staff and started the "revolution". When in the end they couldn't get what they wanted, remaining in fnatic was obviously impossible and they were forced to join the only other real professional swedish team
2010-12-13 16:44:26
true
2010-12-13 21:02:27
poor dsn :[
2010-12-12 22:40:13
blink-blink ;D
2010-12-13 04:50:37
No teamplay, no win!

EDIT: As I don't like so much DSN's awp, but I feel sad about him. I've to say that because f0rest and GTR was just stupid reaction!
And, you (f0rest and GTR), if it is true what cArn said you just have aim.

Post edited 2010-12-12 22:42:54
2010-12-12 22:40:55
To bad f0rest is amazing all around.
2010-12-12 22:57:26
opinions are opinions. I like players like niko
2010-12-12 23:49:29
Me too
2010-12-13 00:01:51
Yeah true that. If there were five players in a team that got the same attitude as niko they will be the best team ever.

Post edited 2010-12-13 00:38:21
2010-12-13 00:37:48
exactly :D
2010-12-13 09:01:44
Why is he so special?
2010-12-13 07:50:04
He is special due the fact he is friendly, ambicious, so more...
2010-12-13 09:02:46
and so sweet and cherishful.... ahhaha, gotha?
2010-12-13 15:32:00
LOL
2010-12-13 16:57:44
+1 for niko. great player, great man :)
2010-12-13 10:29:35
gl fnatic :)
2010-12-12 22:41:05
very nice reading
2010-12-12 22:42:55
good work miraa, that was a great interview!
2010-12-12 22:44:50
Should have had ask him what role will dsn play with delpan being main awper
2010-12-12 22:45:02
dsn's rifles are pretty good, i'd assume delpan would take the main awp role in the team
2010-12-12 23:56:26
Yeah I know, but would be interesting to see what he says after quoting

combined with a sniper who could turn matches around in seconds


Post edited 2010-12-13 00:00:53
2010-12-13 00:00:12
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#202
He already stated that dsn will be the secondary awp and, as in the game it is pistol or rifles, he obviously will go for a rifle if the awp is already taken ;)
2010-12-13 00:32:08
Where was that? Just wanted to read whatever words he used :D
2010-12-13 00:34:45
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#208
http://www.fnatic.com/news/8327/FnaticMSI-CS-acquires-Pita-as-5th.html

pita's words but I presume cArn is who decided it in the end.
2010-12-13 00:39:50
"Sättermon explained to FNATIC.com"

It's actually carn I guess
2010-12-13 10:48:01
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#560
Indeed. Seems to me that reading pita at the start of the text mislead me. Thanks for the head-ups ;)
2010-12-13 22:38:25
lol sounds like cArn is a bit embittered by all that. It's easy to attack allen & RobbaN on their CV when his own CV became that impressive mainly thx to the great players he played with... Even though it's true that allen is worse than both dsn & cArn
2010-12-12 22:46:02
+1 on that bit, was a little bit immature to bring up RobbaN and allen's CVs but other than that cArn is maybe the most humble CS player there is, i have respect him a lot and believe that 100% he said here is true.
2010-12-12 22:58:03
"I believe I´m great on what I´m doing".. not exactly the most humble :p

Still I think if there his problem should stay between him and his ex-mates, no need to attack robban & allen for just having been chosen by them
2010-12-12 23:04:04
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#203
A bit of maior self-confidence isn't that bad....
2010-12-13 00:33:33
Please understand that confidence and arrogance are two different things.

If you think that what he said was arrogance then you probably have low self-confidence.
2010-12-13 00:44:11
what he said was exactly arrogance. bringing up the achievements of 2 other players to compare to his own is downright arrogant. basically he's saying im better than robban and allen because my CV>their CV (a.k.a. my penis > ur penis syndrome). best part about that quote however, if it wasn't for forest or gtr his achievements would have never rivaled that of robban and allen.

Carn has always been somewhat arrogant and self-confident. Not to say thats a bad thing, it helped him win and stay on top with his team. He was never rude though, unlike Archi who was a dick all around.
2010-12-13 01:29:49
I guess now is his time to prove you wrong, with the new team.
2010-12-13 12:53:07
i doubt he can prove me wrong, since delpan xizt and pita had nothing to do with gtr and forest carrying fnatic to titles.
2010-12-13 12:57:07
Fnatic was winning titles when they had Ins and Archi in the lineup too. The only thing different is that they dont have f0rest anymore. Fnatic biggest problem will be pita, i´m afraid. Delpan and Xizt are young and motivated talents.
2010-12-13 13:15:57
He only said that because he was disappointed. cArn didn't have a choice but to tell the truth (look at the question being asked) on why replacing him and harley just doesn't make any sense.

"It would have been much easier to grasp the situation if they would suggest upcoming talents to tag up with Fnatic, not players of the same age as me and Harley, but with much less impressive CV."


2010-12-13 15:15:55
man I was just kidding relax...
When did I say he was arrogant btw? Not being humble doesn't mean that you're arrogant :)
2010-12-13 14:46:39
Amen...and I guess moddii will be clanless forever because of his attitude or whatever, I personally think RobbaN > dsn/cArn but dsn/cArn > allen...we will see, I don't blame f0rest/GTR/GuX for wanting to bring them in over cArn/dsn but its a bit sneaky, it just gave SK a really good opportunity to take f0rest/GTR which will prove that SK>fnatic in 2011 :-3
2010-12-13 00:06:30
+1million
2010-12-13 00:03:55
he has a point though.
2010-12-13 14:37:08
Half a point if you ask me :p
Comparing their CVs is only partly relevant when you know that cArn's been playing with f0rest in his team for years
2010-12-13 14:53:05
After reading this i feel like dsn&carn were stabbed in the back by gtr&gux&f0rest :/
2010-12-12 22:46:03
me too :S
2010-12-12 23:01:18
+1
2010-12-12 23:50:00
gl :D
2010-12-12 22:46:25
carn sounds slighty bitter if you ask me...

and although i understand carn, i still feel bad for moddii (and gux to some extent), such beast of a player and no one wants him... :(
2010-12-12 22:47:09
yeah and I think they should give him a chance and get to know him, instead of assuming he won't fit into the team just because he got kicked from MYM
2010-12-12 23:02:32
exactly my thoughts... I just fear that this might lead to him quitting altogether. That would be such a shame.
2010-12-12 23:10:24
I hope he's just gonna wait his time, like Delpan. It's a bit sad, this guy is a bit like GeT_RiGhT was 2 years ago, with ppl not wanting him supposedly for social reasons but turning out to actually being the best player in the world...
2010-12-12 23:23:45
true... he comes in my top5 rifler list easy...

GTR
Edward
Neo
Moddii
Roman
2010-12-12 23:26:32
Well, they have both Delpan and pita in the team who both probably know moddii very well. I am sure Delpan also had a say in choosing the last player, and he knows both moddii and pita.

cArn sounds bitter? I think he sounds surprised and he is probably dissappointed with the fact that people aren't mature enough to speak with him directly and give proper arguments to their opinions. Instead, people apparently chose to make demands and ultimatums, even after many years of playing together and (supposedly) becoming friends. I understand that this is only one interview with cArn and it is impossible to say what exactly happened, but that seems to be the case.

Well, it happens pretty much everywhere in life that when it gets tough you truly see who are your friends and who can be mentally strong and face challenges directly, instead of speaking behind people's backs.
2010-12-12 23:32:05
That is most likely to be true, but we haven't heard the story from the other side(gtr, f0rps and gux) yet, so i won't be totally judgmental yet...

About moddii, i really doubt delpan or Xizt had a say in the selection of the last member. It was carn and dsn rebuilding the team, all along.
2010-12-12 23:37:49
Well, if Delpan is the only guy who has played with moddii and pita, I would be pretty sure that cArn and dsn asked him what he thought about each of them. It's not like they'll take people in without any information about them
2010-12-12 23:51:29
yep
2010-12-13 00:09:46
I would have said that Delpan and Xizt had a very large say in who the final member was to be. cArn knows the importance of a team getting along, and this has just come to really stab him in the back. So I doubt he would be too keen on rushing into a team without getting the entire team's thoughts / feelings about each and every member.

Obviously cArn wants this team to work through communication, in-game and out. You can't have that if one / two players don't get along, which is clearly seen in this case. I don't blame cArn for not picking moddii, I'm more than sure he has his reasons. Skill isn't the most important aspect of Counter-Strike.

Post edited 2010-12-13 01:47:40
2010-12-13 01:46:52
exactly!

Just because MYM kicked him (maybe some dispute?) and that SK didn't offer him a contract (we all know what SK is made of) doesn't mean he is not 'social'....

He has not even played in a truly top team and he is already better than most (personally I think 'best', in terms of aiming)...think about what he can do with a good team and a leader like carn...he can possibly be the best cs player we have ever seen..who knows...

and seriously pita? He is good but there are much better players in Sweden...and with much more potential

Taking a young insane talent and moulding him into a member of a world class team will always give better returns...

Post edited 2010-12-13 09:38:47
2010-12-13 09:35:39
cArn said various times that he was a team which clicks and gets along, and he doesn't only look at skills. Moddii is known for being an unreliable player, he has proven this with MYM and SK not offering him a contract. What he said as well, and you forgot to mention, is that he listened to people around him, which are most likely to be his two new team mates, Xizt and Delpan.

I repeat, it's not all about skill!

Post edited 2010-12-13 12:59:38
2010-12-13 12:58:50
Yeah if Xizt and Delpan have told so I can understand...everything else (MYM and SK bs) doesn't hold....and if I were to choose team I would at least make an attempt to talk to him and make my own assessment rather than going only by hearsay

Talking about reliable players....what about Gux who played in SK for quite some time, got them some important victories against fnatic from where he had moved (in which he was really animated to say the least) and then it comes to light he hasn't even signed the contract! And then joins fnatic saying "this is my home" LOL...That is what I call unreliable!!

Anyway I hope pita works out fine for you guys...he is a nice guy, no doubt...I just have my doubts whether he can compete with the likes of Navi and the new SK....maybe I will be proven wrong....
2010-12-13 15:16:40
well i was hanging out with a team that moddii played in before and i know hes a whiner. And that happened in mym thats why they kicked him. That is what cArn is talking about. cArn knows alot of players that played and plays with moddii on a daily basis and that is the way it is. if he can mature a bit he would be the next GT but i dont think that will happen in a while.
2010-12-13 22:29:30
ok cool
2010-12-13 22:31:12
yup... its really sad.. i hope he finds a good team now.. RAGE probably.. if his german is good then mouz? :D

lol gux got screwed in this whole saga.. he went along with forp and gtr & in the end, the two of them left him behind.. still he can do a lot of damage with lions so he isnt screwed as much as moddii is.. :(

now with delpan, pita, xizt fnatic hav three extremely sick players.. imo dsn was the most consistent player in fnatic last year.. their success will depend upon their chemistry and how well carn is able to adapt to these three tactically..

lots of bad blood now in these teams.. 2011 is gonna be more insane than ever!!

2010-12-12 23:11:05
GuX got thrown around a lot, but still got the best deal of them all, if you ask me... He's with the #1 swedish team right now (atleast on paper)...
2010-12-12 23:16:23
lol its true he got da best deal but still he did get thrown around a lot ^^

on paper, i would say SK is strongest obvly.. however, as a TEAM, lions is better.. in fact if these teams were to play right now, lions will beat both SK and fnatic as they hav only one player replaced and will still hav pretty good teamplay..
2010-12-12 23:26:51
Lions > SK as a team as well as aimwise... That's my opinion... There's only so much you can do without a proper awp player...

Post edited 2010-12-12 23:28:54
2010-12-12 23:28:29
ya thats true... robban, forp both are defensive awpers... they dont really hav some1 who'll take awp on t side, go aggro and pick early frags.. i guess forest will start awping on t side now and lets see how it goes..
2010-12-13 03:17:56
f0rest is pretty insane with awp imo :)

but the thing is, that's wasting his number one skill which is rifling....

If SK would have picked up Delpan in place of allen, I would be ready to bet that this team would soon be unbeatable...
2010-12-13 09:41:29
by: mah9
#36
kind of sad that these players that have been close teammates for so long part on not-so-good terms. gl to fnatic :)
2010-12-12 22:47:09
hahahaha gux failed xDD
2010-12-12 22:48:05
Besides the surprise I felt, I also found it slightly amusing that me and Harley should be replaced with players who barely haven´t won anything in a very long time. It would have been much easier to grasp the situation if they would suggest upcoming talents to tag up with Fnatic, not players in the same age as me and Harley, but with much less impressive CV.


haha owned... nice interview.. gl carn & fnatic... 2011 is gonna be so much fun..
2010-12-12 22:48:14
nice interview :)
2010-12-12 22:48:19
fnatic > SK imo
2010-12-12 22:48:20
It reminds me the situation in fx when they replaced luq with pasha... It's sad but f0rest and GTR had rights to do what they did.
2010-12-12 22:48:30
finally something intressting, truly enjoyable!

GL fnatic 2010!
2010-12-12 22:49:05
One of the greatest IGL ever. I hope they will rule again with such a good team
2010-12-12 22:49:06
gl pita, gl fnatic ! :)
2010-12-12 22:49:29
SK >

bye carn :s
2010-12-12 22:50:06
This is so funny when you see that some people have read this news post in like 1 minute. :)))
2010-12-12 22:50:19
Yep,IEM5 will be fun to watch
2010-12-12 22:50:49
let's be real new SK will crush them, with sick aimers
2010-12-12 22:50:56
fnatic has also their guns, Delpan snip, Xizt amazing aimer.. cArn is still one of the best igls
2010-12-12 23:02:42
he REALLY seems pissed off and bitter :)
good interview though
2010-12-12 22:51:19
+1
2010-12-12 22:58:08
"Harley should be replaced with players who barely haven´t won anything in a very long time"

hell yeah, i hope fnatic will kick sk asses
2010-12-12 22:51:51
This time i agree with u m8
+1 =D
2010-12-12 23:07:49
+1000
2010-12-12 23:42:55
That's kinda strange logic actually. Did he as a player win all those titles?
No he didn't, his team did. Of course he was a part of the team.

But who can say that RobbaN/allen wouldn't also have won those titles with players like Get_right and f0rest in their team?



Present Skill > "CV", imo.
2010-12-13 01:04:19
+100000000000
2010-12-13 13:34:34
Same here.
2010-12-13 07:36:17
I also found it slightly amusing that me and Harley should be replaced with players who barely haven´t won anything in a very long time.... my CV > their CV !!!!

Thats was realy dumb and imature thing to say in an interview. And hes doing it again, underestimating players(robban & allen) just like he did with navi. Good job carn, you gonna fail once again..

watching SK taking fnatic apart will be fun
2010-12-13 10:32:21
thats such a lame theory.. spain won the world cup title, so they are the best national team in the world, yet, mourinho>del bosque, yaya toure>s.busquets, ronaldo and messi>all spanish players etc. the team is the most important, the environment, but ofc as far as skill and aim in this case, there are better players than carn and dsn, thats obvious..
2010-12-13 16:06:18
The players that left FnaticMSI had come to me after WEM and informed me that they wished to replace dsn

ROFL :P

"get rid of that bitch, he ain't good enough" :P

Post edited 2010-12-12 22:52:54
2010-12-12 22:52:29
dsn did have a bad tournament @ WEM but i think they forgot what dsn did vs Full Gaming =(((
2010-12-12 22:55:51
nice one , but believe me you can't mess with SK
2010-12-12 22:53:09
waiting for the match between fnatic and SK it's gonna be so interesting :)))
2010-12-12 22:54:09
Sorry cArn, your days are over now with pita as the last player.
2010-12-12 22:55:34
I think you are right. If they would have gotten moddii instead of pita they would have real chance beating SK.
2010-12-12 23:04:52
Absolutly!
2010-12-13 00:14:37
this can't be fail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GenCLDQ5YSg
2010-12-13 01:03:46
I´ve seen the movie already. The fact is that in MYM moddii was their keyplayer while pita was like their 3rd best player after Delpan. I´m not saying pita is a bad player or anything i know he´s very good. I just think that moddii would have been better choise.

Post edited 2010-12-13 12:14:18
2010-12-13 12:13:48
pita is amazing... way better than moddi
2010-12-13 03:18:29
agree
2010-12-13 22:34:33
no way... fnatic never be beter than SK after this :)
2010-12-12 22:56:34
Wow this interview is so great, thank you for interviewing him and thank you cArn for your honest answers.
2010-12-12 22:56:54
gux was thinking he will be invited by SK , but only f0rest and gtr were signed , so he was on the ice tbh ... and i understand why cArn wont him in fnatic anymore :)I understand f0rest and gtr but words like "we dont wanna play wiht DSN" are disgusting ;/ they play together long time and they should be more loyal for dsn :(
cArn prove he is one of best players in the world and one of greates personality in e-sport :)
Respect man and i hope you will pwn new SK ,but u have to do big work with these new player , because with their potential u can dominate CS in 2011 :)
2010-12-12 22:58:15
nice comment man:)
+1 my opinion is the same what is yours
2010-12-13 00:46:56
+1
2010-12-13 09:34:23
''but we (dsn and I) were obviously not good enough for him, so I hope he find better team-mates in a different team.'' mwahaha
2010-12-12 22:58:35
hahahahah +999
2010-12-12 22:59:19
laughed at this moment too :D
2010-12-12 23:01:47
by: zeyt
#66
so lame by NaVi...
2010-12-12 22:59:08
lol kinda :P

"and what makes this story even more interesting is that these days Na'Vi never want to practice against us, so I guess I have to say hope you enjoyed the lesson and thanks for not giving anything in return, hugs guys!"
2010-12-12 22:59:54
Then how do they train and keep beating top teams :o
2010-12-12 23:01:15
they watch demos and make anti-strats :P
2010-12-12 23:04:01
damn, yeah, interesting way of training

Post edited 2010-12-12 23:05:39
2010-12-12 23:05:17
every big team does that...what's new? :) mtw, fnatic, sk you name it...the only team that plays really aggressive and in its own style is probably FX...that also can't be said for sure...

Why is everyone singling out NaVi?
2010-12-13 15:20:05
yeah I know, but Na´Vi is probably one of the teams who does it the most :P but there's nothing wrong with that. gathering as much information of your opponents as possible is just intelligent
2010-12-13 15:44:12
they play against other teams, but not against fnatic
2010-12-12 23:22:31
That`s why i don`t like na`vi . The only one in that team who seems to be a nice, sinceere person, is markeloff. The otherones are kinda cocky if you ask me.
The fact that they refused to practice vs fnatic disgusts me. I know you have to be at the top of your game through every means but if fnatic helped you before, when you were not yet the star team of today, by practicing with you, it is only fair for you to do the same.
2010-12-13 14:32:18
yea
2010-12-12 23:00:19
you mean so smart isn't it?
2010-12-12 23:20:08
Nothing lame about that. Fnatic shouldn't have had underestimated Na`Vi, so why would Na`Vi play them if they could earn lots of money. Stop being so hypocrite, all of you would have done the same thing.
2010-12-12 23:49:31
carn is a great guy, good luck carn and fnatic
2010-12-12 23:00:36
Fnatic > SK

GL for 2011 guys!
2010-12-12 23:01:56
a good man always says the right words.
2010-12-12 23:03:14
But now, if u can MIRAA do interview with f0rest or GeT_RiGhT, wanna see what other side can tell interesting to us :)
2010-12-12 23:03:43
+1
2010-12-12 23:13:08
+1
2010-12-12 23:33:00
go fnatic :)
2010-12-12 23:05:09
"informed me that they wished to replace dsn, something I first found ridiculous after us doing bad in one single tournament".

Agree! Stupid to blame on dsn, the whole team did't work anymore. Nice to see some moves, to get sweden back on the top!
2010-12-12 23:06:36
Nice backstab f0rest and gtr...
2010-12-12 23:06:53
by: AnjM
#90
go fnatic i still love u ,forest and gtr will feel sorry for what they did ,and they forgot the past and the victories !
2010-12-12 23:06:57
I am exciting to see SK x fnatic in 2011!
2010-12-12 23:08:08
by: nuer
#93
lol i love the part

when it comes to skill but we (dsn and I) were obviously not good enough for him
2010-12-12 23:09:04
+1 I like this comment ALOT.
2010-12-22 23:52:19
ahahhaha, It´s not really as hard to imagine as if Osama bin Laden were to have dinner in the White House with the American president,... he is such a great personality and i think that they can beat SK and Na'Vi with some practise but the MOST STUPID MISTAKE was that either of the teams didn't bring in f0rest and Delpan in the same team... :( that could have been the ultimate dream team and that line up with f0rest and Delpan could beat any team including Na'Vi :S
2010-12-12 23:10:53
Yes it is totally true. IMO Ukraine does not have the best players in the world. Na´vi has the best players from Ukraine in one team..it is something that Sweden has never done.
2010-12-12 23:13:34
Remember: when NaVi lost a tournament markeloff said in some iview that they went home and practiced almost 10 hours a day... They have enough humbleness for competitive counter-strike and they work hard from time to time to suprise the enemies again. They also have a lot of respect to other teams and they probably never underrestimate the enemy's side. Those things are much much more important than pure skill. :)

ps.: im no fanboy of navi, i just stated facts here. :D
2010-12-12 23:44:32
i cant agree with you. navi lineup are rly strong yes, and there are playing ukranian best players but not the FIVE best. In ukraine are also here ANGE1 Kucher Johnta(i think hes one of the best ingameleaders + has very good aim and moving stlye) Blade. vad1k. valentinich and 1-2 more names we can write. In sweden u cant make an alstar team because there are many worldclass "star"player r playing in top teams, carn said need teamplay+happy aim:) it is the key to make a good team whos are can win big international events.
2010-12-13 00:44:24
Sorry mate but i can´t agree you. As someone said before Ukraine(Na´vi) did what they had to do. They have 1 really goood igl and 4 bulldogs :)) That is i think the reason they are so fucking good.
2010-12-13 01:29:27
i dont said the are not good:) and i dont said navi are not the best team now in ukraine:P
2010-12-13 01:32:33
They are the best team in the world and in Ukraine. I am only saying that this is something Sweden has never done. They could put up robban ( igl, f0rest, gtr, gux, moddii/delpan - everyone who have k/d ratio over 1.2.
2010-12-13 01:41:42
hmm now in this form your comment is ok for me:) and edit 252:D say/said.
2010-12-13 07:59:03
Seriously, i'm respecting cArn for his answers:) goodluck to fnatic even if i don't like the lu
2010-12-12 23:13:30
carn da man as usual

gl!
2010-12-12 23:14:20
Great interview. Stuff like this is candy for the hardcore CS supporter
2010-12-12 23:16:29
next event?
2010-12-12 23:16:53
IEM European Finals in Kiev, in January.
2010-12-12 23:18:40
Wow. The best interview I read in a really long time. I see that cArn is really close with dsn, that's why they didn't change him. Carn is a really good person. GL fnatic in 2011. Will be awesome to see the 1st tournament in January :)

Post edited 2010-12-12 23:17:50
2010-12-12 23:17:41
yeah, i cant wait it:P
2010-12-13 00:38:05
carn is the best team leader in the world
I am sure carn will build a team that will make lot of domage

Gl CARn GL fnatic :D
2010-12-12 23:18:46
yeah but I think fnatic with f0rest > these fnatic
2010-12-12 23:20:37
gl fnatic
2010-12-12 23:18:57
Hope for fnatic to overcome SK again and again...
2010-12-12 23:20:19
why dsn is not taking awp in he last tournaments...he buys it but not every time...he can handle it very good...and what happened now? fnatic with 2 snipers sk with 0...maybe robban will play but he is not classic awp...
2010-12-12 23:22:00
dsn is a good rifler as well if u mean him...


on topic: nice interview, was nice to read.
2010-12-12 23:59:22
SK=Real Madrid
fnatic= Barcelona

Gl both teams
2010-12-12 23:22:22
now SK=Barcelona , fnatic = Real Madrid
2010-12-12 23:28:30
no SK=Real Madrid(with all star players) fnatic=barcelona
2010-12-12 23:33:04
you didnt get the point
2010-12-12 23:34:27
f@1l
2010-12-12 23:41:01
Lions = Valencia

Xizt = David Villa
2010-12-13 01:14:04
delpan = messi
2010-12-13 03:28:39
cArn = xavi !!
2010-12-13 17:56:16
hahahahah great one :DDD
2010-12-13 17:46:04
+1 delpan is there messi
2010-12-13 09:38:30
+1
2010-12-13 14:30:43
Greatest comment in the last year :D Give this man an award or something HLTV.org guys :D
2010-12-13 17:46:59
fnatic's de_train will be the best with dsn and delpan :p
2010-12-12 23:23:56
no question... i hope they play sk on train first...
2010-12-13 09:39:24
yeah :p dsn+delpan on de_train = fnatic 16x3 sk
2010-12-13 13:36:22
don't forget f0rest's amazing awp at de_train =D... so it can be, i think, something spectacular ;)
2010-12-13 22:45:22
alright, i know, but delpan and dsn >>> f0rest (in awp skill.)
2010-12-15 14:48:03
Go fnatic
Go Delpan!
2010-12-12 23:29:01
#115 lol
2010-12-12 23:29:03
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#212
If you use the 'Reply' button the user will/would know you replied to him/her ;)
2010-12-13 00:42:40
wow hopefully there will be epic battleZ between SK and Fnatic
2010-12-12 23:29:43
finally we have 3 really big teams in sweden that can do serious damage in big events. its very hard to tell whos gonna be the best in 2011.
2010-12-12 23:29:46
finally? Sweden all times have 3 really big teams for serious damage at international events

2008:Giants,fnatic,SK
2009:fnatic,SK,H2k,MYM
2010:fnatic,SK,Lions,RAGE?

Post edited 2010-12-12 23:34:21
2010-12-12 23:31:42
I really thought Fnatic made the wrong choice by keeping carn and dsn, but after reading this, I have more respect for the fnatic org than I ever have had. Keeping carn and dsn rather than going with skill is pure trust. You don't find that in sports enough. I wish nothing but the best for fnatic and you can count me in as a new fan boy.

Post edited 2010-12-12 23:36:08
2010-12-12 23:34:21
fnatic now will be more self-confidence.
2010-12-12 23:36:43
This situation must have been hard on cArn, probably the first time I've seen him to lose his temper even a bit. He has every right though, it's been pretty much him and Harley guiding the youngsters, and now they flip the bird to them. Never expected this move from f0rest to be honest, I always thought that he was pretty close with carn and dsn. Would have much more sense to me if the trio stuck together and got a couple of fresh players like Delpan and Xizt. Must have been some personal quarrels behind the scenes, as I really don't think that carn or dsn have been performing so bad that they deserve to receive this treatment, especially considering their past success.

Guess this just shows how stupid the trio who left are, thinking that fnatic would just ditch carn and dsn who pretty much build the fnatic brand for them, to build a team around players who clearly aren't capable to keep their end of deals. And double the stupid for Gux for even considering that SK would welcome him back. Like really, what the F were you thinking? Then again, trying get back to SK was probably the last card he had in his sleeve after burning pretty much every bridge behind him with the ultimatum and everything. Only hope for him in the future is that the swedes get their third top-team with him in it, because I hardly think that fnatic or SK will be taking him under their wings even after "the old boys" retire.

For the moment, the only ones winning here are probably GTR and f0rest who almost got what they wanted, but the reality will probably smack them in the face soon enough. Somehow I have the feeling that carn and his team will pull through this as the winners, maybe not after the first tournaments of the year but eventually. Until then, Na'Vi is going to have a field day till the swedes get their act together.

In other news, I'd really really really like to see an interview with Walle about all this happening. I'm guessing he would have a thing or two to say, and considering his legacy and all, he really should get some attention too here. I mean, he's been around for something closer to a decade, and he has just quietly been swept away? Only thing keeping him from expressing his opinions freely could be that he's going to stay at SK behind the scenes, but considering that this probably wasn't really a happy ending between him and the other players in SK, I hardly think that he would have the motivation to work with them in the future.
2010-12-12 23:41:07
tl;dr
2010-12-12 23:51:17
I doubt anyone would read this m8.
2010-12-12 23:52:09
np m8, I'm not really expecting nor willing to read comments from people who can't commit to reading a few paragraphs.
2010-12-12 23:54:57
I've read it because you seem a nice and well-mannered guy (something you don't see much around here). I have to say that I totally agree on your 'insight' right there. Especially the part about Walle and Gux. Nice read actually lol.

Post edited 2010-12-13 00:05:13
2010-12-13 00:03:36
I did read. He has some good arguments and logical explanations there if you want to read it.
2010-12-13 00:00:06
Ye, I read it already because he was polite. True he has a good insight.
2010-12-13 00:06:56
so much for two sides to a story.
2010-12-12 23:59:40
In the significant amount of interviews that cArn has given to hltv.org, he has seemed to be a very balanced and decent guy. While of course there are two sides to a story, I very much doubt that cArn would be running around trying to make others look bad.
2010-12-13 00:06:12
So the only other possibility to the story is fnatic got bored of GTR GuX and f0rest and told them to leave.. good one. There is no other explanation lol?
2010-12-13 03:26:57
I agree that the new fnatic actually could be very strong. Making significant changes also forces both cArn and dsn to totally re-evaluate their game, tactics and everything which could make them very good if they just are motivated enough to work for it.
2010-12-13 00:03:03
Lool read it too and we have similar thoughts, beside the one about Gux.

Gux fan :D
2010-12-13 00:06:21
+1

Agreed, i'd like to hear something from Walles point of view too. He seems to have been quietly put on the shelf with nothing much made of it.

But also a f0rest and GTR interview would also be quite interesting, obviously.

Good luck to fnatic in 2011, still back them 100% - Never paid much attention to Pita, will be fun to watch.
2010-12-13 00:11:55
Very nice comment :)
2010-12-13 00:15:30
got a headache after reading it but you're right m8.
2010-12-13 00:20:07
so true...

and I feel the same about f0rest.

I would never have imagined he would just leave fnatic like that, it really surprised me, more than any other CS-related news I have ever read.
2010-12-13 00:54:33
don't you think it's crazy how SK just sweep aside every loyal player they have ever had that has done so much for them and treat them like trash without any statements or a massive farewell. fnatic keeping cArn and dsn just show that they are a true organisation and thats what really matters, I believe in Karma and cArn will get the better of the situation and come out trumps.. The new fnatic is gonna be extremely interesting to watching, so much talent(: thanks for your post!
2010-12-13 03:23:00
yeah, there would be so many haters for f0rest and GTR. that could depress them.
2010-12-13 08:05:23
Thanks for the comments, never really thought that anyone would care to go through it. Made my head hurt too after re-reading it now! :)
2010-12-13 08:20:03
well is walle retired or kicked?? maybe the other teammates talked to him before making a move to fnatic which all changed ofcourse... i don't really think he can do a top team now... as his skill has faded a bit... but i do think he can go to teams like rage or something to make them a lot better... and he will be motivated to do so...
2010-12-13 09:46:11
u dont know nothing about their relationship, u dont know nothing about their personalities and also u dont know if they have good teamplay or bad. I thing forest hold on fnatic every year and he want to win carn is good ingame leader may be the best, but he Robban is better aimer and also allen and face are better than dsn and carn in making frags so i thing its natural choice for forest and GTR.
2010-12-14 20:11:42
good friend isnt good counter strike player, u cannot decide just about friendship if u like to win.
And about walle every player dont like to end career but this is life.

Post edited 2010-12-14 20:15:27
2010-12-14 20:13:52
Good to hear that he is more motivated than ever. Hope fnatic will crush SK on every ocassion in 2011.
2010-12-12 23:42:01
What do you think that went wrong and prevented fnatic from having the success it used to have, this year?

Ourselves and Na'Vi.

LOL
2010-12-12 23:42:18
more motivated, but way less skilled.. cy@ carn
2010-12-12 23:42:40
Wouldn't put it that way. On this level everything is possible :D Just like in football (ye, ye no football comparision is good)
2010-12-13 00:08:20
rly nice :)
2010-12-12 23:42:59
Dear friends of Sweeden, what did "puttje" means?

Cheers.
2010-12-12 23:43:14
Just think it's a nickname (f0rest has) :-)

But I'm not sure.

Post edited 2010-12-13 00:00:56
2010-12-13 00:00:26
it means patrik
2010-12-13 01:04:18
respect to cArn!
2010-12-12 23:43:58
trator interview please, i mean: f0rpi
2010-12-12 23:45:09
pitaSHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

go


xitz > f0rest
2010-12-12 23:47:25
gl patrik
2010-12-12 23:48:05
nice view
2010-12-12 23:48:05
more respect for carn

its now upto Xizt and pita to show what they are capable of.

GL fnatic
2010-12-12 23:49:08
Motivated? Lol lier
2010-12-12 23:50:33
before you say it at least learn how to spell it (:
2010-12-13 01:03:27
Really bad mentality for f0rest, GTR and Gux. I hate them now, how can you have a comportment like that with someone (dsn) you know since some years? I really hate this mentality.
Now, fnatic, let's own SK, and GL cArn and dsn.
2010-12-12 23:59:49
It's sad that after being a team mates for so long (3 or 4 years?) cArn and f0rest won't keep in touch... I think that shows how fnatic lineup looked like all the time (ofc I may be wrong). Nothing except 'work'. That's shame also that they left Gux on the ledge after all those statements about loyality (f0rest said that he want to play with Gux).

Prove me wrong.
2010-12-13 00:00:39
i think SK and FNATIC were in the same difficult NA'VI take the two teams and sk can be more harder like the lin-up now , but if cArn did good preparation cArn take all the team because f0rest and GeT_RiGhT are same like Xizt and Pita , f0rst and gtr during all the times take many frag by the tactical game of cArn now they can do less than fnatic player. For finish i think fnatic.MSi can beat SK.GAMING really Good Luck to cArn and DSN who are the best players in the world.
2010-12-13 00:04:50
nice interview cArn gl with ur new team i belive in u! ^^
2010-12-13 00:07:41
gl carn and dsn!
2010-12-13 00:11:17
dsn & cArn > all
2010-12-13 00:14:39
rotflmao of the year...
2010-12-13 00:51:05
basically....its GeT_RiGhT/f0rest vs Xizt/pita/Delpan and RobbaN/allen/face vs cArn/dsn, I expect nothing less then domination from SK for the first few games but when fnatic starts to mesh, it will be interesting, both lineups are crazy and I will actually watch fnatic matches now.
2010-12-13 00:17:31
Gux Takes a Trip to SK.

*Knock Knock*
Whose There?

Gux

PISS OFF






2010-12-13 00:19:54
by: Dare_Dev1L - HLTV.org
#232
Yeah but in the same time you think:

*Knock Knock*
Who's there?

forest + Get Right

"Come in come in! Have some cookies, some tea...oh you like my daughter? Take her"
2010-12-13 01:00:42
:D
"hey, forest, you like that chick?"
"eeeeeh... eeeeehhh, yeah..."

Post edited 2010-12-13 08:10:07
2010-12-13 08:08:34
*Knock Knock*
SK - "Who's there?"
GuX - "Balloon boy"
SK opens
SK - "ugh, get out of here you fu*king bastard"
GuX - :(
2010-12-13 10:15:49
HAHAHA LOL!
2010-12-13 10:22:19
very good interview, i lol'd at the osama comparison haha.

wish you the best of luck carn with your new team.

<3
2010-12-13 00:19:57
I have kind of lost my respect for GTR and f0rest. Not because of this interview, but as the whole process seems to have been one huge backstab by them. They also decided to drop Gux, which also may be seen on as a backstab.
2010-12-13 00:22:20
Yea but the thing is that if SK said they didn't want gux, what are really the choices for gtr and f0rest? They naturally want to compete in the IEM finals, the spots are already decided for the European Championship, and their only choice was to then join SK. Also, it isn't really a possibility for them to wait around without an organisation.
2010-12-13 00:26:36
I can relate to what you are saying, but if you want to make a team, it takes time. Rome wasn't built in one day either. It seems to me that f0rest and GTR convinced GuX to leave, but when SK rejected GuX - they backstabbed him, leaving him empty-handed. I feel bad for GuX as well as dsn and cArn.
2010-12-13 00:49:46
don't feel bad for cArn & dsn.. feel sorry that they had to be in a team with people that didn't want to be with them.. that sucks big time. It's a good thing that they got to get 3 fresh players. They are lucky to have parted ways with people that would do that to a friend.
2010-12-13 03:14:14
Word up.
2010-12-13 09:55:04
NICE CARN, GTR AND F0REST THIS GOOD PLAYERS BUT U ARE THE BEST CAPTAIN ONLY NEED PITA,DELPAN AND XIZT JOIN AND EXCELENT TEAM. DELPAN=BEST AWP SWEDEN + 2 SPRAYER EXP DSN AND CARN.. GG SK
2010-12-13 00:25:26
Give a break to caps lock.
2010-12-13 13:59:23
fnatic ftw, I hope this lineup make some damage!

gl carn and the others <3
2010-12-13 00:26:10
Gux left fnatic, but ended up not joining SK, and is currently without a team. Is there any reason you did not take him back?

He is a great player and would fit in any team when it comes to skill, but we (dsn and I) were obviously not good enough for him, so I hope he find better team-mates in a different team.

R4P3D
2010-12-13 00:26:37
1)Gux's FAIL!,,
---------------------------

2)cArn: "in my world a happy aimer is better than an uncomfortable aimer."

it seems that didn't work very well, the happy aimers were doing happy plans to leave fnatic without any aimer!
2010-12-13 00:27:49
sk will crush fnatic.
2010-12-13 00:27:52
"Besides the surprise I felt, I also found it slightly amusing that me and Harley should be replaced with players who barely haven´t won anything in a very long time. It would have been much easier to grasp the situation if they would suggest upcoming talents to tag up with Fnatic, not players in the same age as me and Harley, but with much less impressive CV."

EXACTLY

that's exactly how I felt when I learned about it...

I just don't get it. WHY THOSE GUYS FFS ?

chemistry is important but there are much more skilled and talented players, and I'm pretty sure most of them are nice persons too.

thanks a lot for the interview, I really wanted some sort of explanation, feels good :)
2010-12-13 00:28:04
looks like you decided to stick with fnatic, not f0rest :)
2010-12-13 00:41:30
yes of course...

f0rest will always be my favorite player but the way all of this happened just makes me want to keep supporting fnatic (and believe it or not, I'm also the creator/admin of gtr's facebook page so it's kind of a weird situation for me).

maybe one day I'll support the new SK line-up but I doubt it will happen as long as RobbaN and allen are part of it.

Post edited 2010-12-13 00:47:24
2010-12-13 00:46:27
Lol after this I lost my respect to both f0rest and GTR.

They have forgotten why they played CS 1.6 in the first place.
2010-12-13 00:49:30
same thing for me
2010-12-13 00:50:29
same here :/.. fnatic.xizt <3
2010-12-13 03:09:58
one SC player said like
"you should find CS in yourself, not yourself in CS"
all I can add is ", young padawan"
2010-12-13 08:14:26
cried whene i read it =P
2010-12-13 20:02:24
+1
those quoted words says its all...

It just not make any sense to replace carn and dsn with Robban and Allen.
Okay fine Forrest wanted to play with robban but why now?its not like robban and forest are soul mates.

And stupid stupid GuX after all that drama we were assuming he learned lesson but....

Well now my support is with fnatic.Hope they beat SK.
2010-12-13 01:12:22
umm you migh want to update his page,says the fnatic joker strikes again on the left :D
2010-12-13 04:05:37
he put it there actually, so I won't remove it. he'll do it if he wants to :)
2010-12-13 04:31:39
its sport and u play sport for win.
2010-12-14 20:04:33
I think its funny how f0rest and Get_right bailed GuX.
2010-12-13 00:32:04
rly nice interview, gl fnatic in 2011, i bilieve in you cArn and your team8s can dominate in 2011.
and stop pls thats comments "fnatic game over" etc. :p thank u! also i will watch all your matches and will cheer you:)
2010-12-13 00:34:09
very nice interview,gl cArn and all from fnatic,we'll see ya after 2010!!!
2010-12-13 00:41:28
CS might have only a year, year and the half as a main e-sport? Sadface...
2010-12-13 00:42:08
That's just speculations... Anything can happen and hopefully it will. I doubt any other game has a big community like CS. And with that amount of supporters and potential product consumers the leading authorities in e-sports will not ignore this. I think counter-strike in one form or another will last for many years. Maybe a CS 2 version, who knows
2010-12-13 01:13:36
football remained as it was 100 years ago. only some minor rules and gear changed. so I hope we will enjoy CS 1.6(or 1.7, whatever) at least 5 years from now.
2010-12-13 08:17:54
star craft is camin' for example in Korea,the winner of GSL takes ~85k $,the SC2 community is growing faster and faster,but I think it wont change cs positions for a while for sure
2010-12-13 13:45:13
fnatic > SK forsure.. I think having new blood will make a much bigger impact then having old washups like Robban, allen.. what a terrible decision.. fnatic.Delpan what a dream come true in cs :D
2010-12-13 00:47:18
ZzZzZzZ....
2010-12-13 00:49:50
fo shizzle! SK papas are very old. Beards should not be tolerated in CS. When you grow up a beard you go to south pole and die there =))))))))) wasup?
2010-12-13 08:20:04
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#218
What's wrong with a team of 25 players?

25 vs 5, total ownage Patrik! ;D

Looking forward to read the other side of the story....
2010-12-13 00:48:56
Hilarious =)
2010-12-13 03:26:31
Hehe! what do you want?
2010-12-13 03:44:08
fnatic will rape SK.
2010-12-13 00:51:05
Now i think SK > fnatic , Good luck f0rest :D
2010-12-13 00:55:55
nice... carn is really a cool guy, best for fnatic in 2011... i always hate forest and get right, gux is a dutch... what a wrong choice... really stupid gix... gg to your cs career
2010-12-13 01:00:36
the first fnatic vs sk match is going to have hugeee spectators
2010-12-13 01:07:19
dsn and carn created the best team we ever saw to cs community
2010-12-13 01:08:42
"He is a great player and would fit in any team when it comes to skill but we (dsn and I) were obviously not good enough for him, so I hope he find better team-mates in a different team"

Great answer :)
2010-12-13 01:10:55
fatality from cArn AHAHAHAHAHA GTR and f0rest lost my respect, if what cArn said is true. waiting for the other side of the story.
2010-12-13 03:23:21
best part is when he says "in a different team" :-P
2010-12-13 12:36:12
cArn crap player !
2010-12-13 01:11:03
carn would probably rape your team in glock so silence please:)
2010-12-13 14:37:39
omg how lame are f0rest and gtr. Not only backstubed carn and dsn, but after that gux too.

Also i could say compairing fnatic2009 vs fnatic2010
the 2010 carn was generally better as aim and still the best igl, dsn and gux same as 2009 and gtr-f0rest was the two who playd worst than 2009.

i'm really anticipating fnatic vs sk and hopefully the carn's wrath to f0rest and gtr
2010-12-13 01:11:15
hmm no really, fOrest was nr1 for some months in 2010
2010-12-13 01:21:53
if get_right have + motivation he will of course make a big difference, sorry for bad english
2010-12-13 01:14:22
Such conceited answers...
2010-12-13 01:15:02
may be it is hillarious to read our poor english? If I was american I'd lmao.
2010-12-13 08:22:38
I really believe that fnatic will be a better team than SK. Delpan and xizt are sick. Allen and Robban are washed out and imo gtr and forest haven't done anything impressive lately as they used to. Wait and see SK fanboys !
2010-12-13 01:19:00
Agree.

On a personal note, i really think fnatic could have used a mad fragger in their line up, -pita +moddii too bad hes a douche.
2010-12-13 01:45:41
pita is a madfragger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GenCLDQ5YSg

u'll see ;)
2010-12-13 02:12:05
Very nice interview. I feel with cArn, but it would be lovely to hear another perspective from either forest or GTR. :)
2010-12-13 01:44:19
"as they think CS is going to be a leading game for 1-1.5 years..."

This bit really got my personal motivation down knowing that this game wont be around for long.
2010-12-13 01:44:21
wont be around for long?? its been around for 10 years
2010-12-13 03:06:11
pff... Did i say it HAS NOT been around for a long time? I'm saying its not going to be a leading esports game anymore, its going to be like source or even dissapear like painkiller.
2010-12-13 16:45:51
i don get it, so what new game gona replace cs1.6?
2010-12-13 15:32:50
Look up some interviews from 7-8 years ago, and you'll read exactly the same statements in them. Yet, here we are - playing this game and reading this website. Cheer up.
2010-12-13 18:55:51
I hope you're right :-/
2010-12-13 20:45:21
'Yes that's true, well I've always wanted to play for FnaticMSI and it seems to be just around one year left in the CS scene so I wanted to make my last year in FnaticMSI before I'm done with this game." - Delpan
2010-12-13 22:15:36
i have the feeling that fnatic will overcome SK in 2011..It seems like SK is haunted by the 03 lineup :/
2010-12-13 01:44:30
n1 reding
2010-12-13 01:45:01
Interesting to see how this goes, they lost the three best riflers, Delpan can make up for one of those but not sure how well Xizt and Pita will do. Can't wait for the SK and fnatic battlez.
2010-12-13 01:45:05
couple of years ago when bds was manager of sk gaming, forest had been asked if he wanted to join sk and he rejected stating that he'd NEVER play for sk. it seemed like sk was some kinda cancer to him....and now look who joined sk.
2010-12-13 01:50:42
it is called back-bone...some people don`t have it:P
2010-12-13 14:38:44
n1

gl fnatic <3
2010-12-13 02:00:21
wish you to beat SK :)
2010-12-13 02:08:18
i hope they do it on LAN, want videos of all players reactions if they do :)))
2010-12-13 02:36:26
yeesss, owned faces :))))))
2010-12-13 12:50:44
Carn youre the fucking Boss!

I hope and pray the new fnatic becomes a huge success , hard times is ahead with adapting and practising to finf the winning formula, but its possible. rockon fnatic!!!! chomp on SK!
2010-12-13 02:14:10
waiting for chinese translation.
2010-12-13 02:24:20
:D
2010-12-13 02:35:12
haha GL
2010-12-13 06:36:17
good interview, now i hope carn will upgrade his aim level and will crash SK in Kiyv
2010-12-13 02:29:00
In few months fnatic will be top1 in Sweden and Xizt a great player, one of the best.
2010-12-13 02:31:44
well u better have motivation, otherwise you stand no chance.
2010-12-13 02:54:55
cArn The Legend good luck fnatic 2011 :)
2010-12-13 02:55:25
<3~ carn & fnatic

glhf
2010-12-13 02:55:59
good luck guys
2010-12-13 02:58:21
New fnatic wont get even top5 @ sweden with that lineup, if something is sure, that is.

and i thought that cArn was smart, but that interview really pointed out how smart he is after all: Claiming that Navi dominated this year (and they didnt), because of IEM4 is the most ridiculous thing what i have ever heard hahahahaa

maybe he should change his nick name from cArn to:

Patrik "brainy" Sättermon :)

Post edited 2010-12-13 03:06:44
2010-12-13 03:04:15
retard alert
2010-12-13 03:07:27
Na'vi did dominate.
2010-12-13 03:17:50
lol one of the worst comments in quite some time... hope u feel proud of ur splendid achievement..
2010-12-13 03:22:07
troll
2010-12-13 03:26:05
Nice post!!!

Haven't seen any post at this quality for such a long long time xDDD
2010-12-13 03:29:41
LOL, in what 2010 did u live in?
2010-12-13 03:36:48
see the troll again..
:/
2010-12-13 04:12:53
omg are you for real ?
2010-12-13 04:33:44
ofc he isnt, the dude's trollin around in every newsthread for like.. months?
2010-12-13 14:15:51
it's always the same guy who talks nonsens ;o
2010-12-13 04:38:48
Troll detected !!! FAIL !!
2010-12-13 07:01:17
Its time to demostrate cArn is the greate strategist without MVP [f0rest and GTR]
2010-12-13 03:27:37
MIRAA thats an awesome interview , good to see direct no-nonsense questions and as always to-da-point answers by carn.
He seems really frustuated with how the whole year ended,but on a good note,they now have the best defensive ct side,thanx to 2 of the top 5 awpers in the same team.

GL Fnatic.

Post edited 2010-12-13 03:35:14
2010-12-13 03:32:06
I'm wondering whether fnatic is better than ex-fnatic(with GeT_RiGhT and f0rest)
but gl!
2010-12-13 04:07:39
n1
2010-12-13 04:07:44
Good interview! Loved the comment about naVi.. haha
2010-12-13 04:16:08
fnatic vs SK this year will be really HOT
2010-12-13 04:39:25
carn can now show what he's capable of ! =DD
2010-12-13 04:39:52
Oh ho ho, I'm awaiting alot of in-game hostilities in the next tournament :D :D :D
2010-12-13 05:13:40
gl in 2011, go for all.
2010-12-13 06:02:33
carn the best <3
2010-12-13 06:04:53
Cool reaction =D
cArn and dsn won't let it go down \m/
GL People , waiting for 31st Jan , Letz see how New SK co-ordinates :P
2010-12-13 06:12:03
carn iz cool
2010-12-13 06:42:20
gl fnatic :)
2010-12-13 06:58:17
"combined with a sniper who could turn matches around in seconds. " LOL at this DSN is a good awp but this year he was under forest on awp performance and that says aloot.
2010-12-13 07:39:56
he wasn't lol.. f0rest only used awp at GameGune

Post edited 2010-12-13 11:47:46
2010-12-13 11:46:50
check more demos ;) he was constantly second awp (whit more frags than first (at least first on paper)
2010-12-14 07:16:20
i watched all fnatic's match and he wasn't may at train or d2 but not always

Post edited 2010-12-14 09:15:24
2010-12-14 09:15:06
i like the motivation
2010-12-13 07:44:16
fnatic.MSI will destroy SK
2010-12-13 07:45:04
2 Giants <3
2010-12-13 07:52:08
nice to read although it has some mistakes like "persons" and "has" instade of have because he is talking about fans in plural
2010-12-13 07:59:22
* instead ;)
2010-12-13 14:12:01
well yea ok i know that i do mistakes but i dont think its that tragic as for example saying persons and not people...
2010-12-13 14:41:00
didnt mean to offend u there, just pointed out that nobody's perfect n' we all make mistakes :)
2010-12-13 15:52:36
great read

love how he used "my ex-teammates" he must hate them lol.

Post edited 2010-12-13 08:10:58
2010-12-13 08:10:02
why did sk remove moddi ?
2010-12-13 08:11:37
no idea he should have replace allen or face ._.
2010-12-13 08:19:51
replace face hahahahahahahahaha, that is a very stupid thing to say..

face locks down all the small bombsites by himself, and he's still one of the best aimers in the game
2010-12-13 13:14:17
f0rest will rape cArn's motivated ass
2010-12-13 08:44:45
haha
2010-12-13 10:19:11
GL fnatic and SK too
2010-12-13 09:05:06
i still cant believe navi doesnt want to practice against fnatic !! real mature !!

Post edited 2010-12-13 09:18:11
2010-12-13 09:16:22
Choosing not the practice with fnatic makes them immature? Really now?

I don't want to practice with you because I don't want to show you my new tactics and let you study my game. Am I being unreasonable?
2010-12-13 11:08:48
He(GUX) is a great player and would fit in any team when it comes to skill, but we (dsn and I) were obviously not good enough for him, so I hope he finds better team-mates in a different team.


ROFLMAO
cArn <3
2010-12-13 09:16:27
gl cArn ^_^
2010-12-13 09:23:30
We just practiced against them everyday before Hannover without saving any strategies


I'm not a guy who goes around and regrets stuff, but if I could turn back time we should not have practiced as much against Na'Vi, and what makes this story even more interesting is that these days Na'Vi never want to practice against us, so I guess I have to say hope you enjoyed the lesson and thanks for not giving anything in return, hugs guys!



Hahaha this is the best part of the interview.
Lesson to be learnt :
i. Master the art of deception and Ur team will turn out to be better.... :D

ii. Never f___ around with smarter individuals.... :P
2010-12-13 09:47:00
Nice interview. :)
cArNaGe! :)
2010-12-13 09:57:03
mr cArn thinks he knows it all. gl failure
2010-12-13 10:09:27
at least he knows better than you.
2010-12-13 15:40:22
and I know better then you :)
2010-12-13 22:30:29
We're talking about cArn, not me !
2010-12-14 01:48:21
:P
2010-12-14 02:07:44
in my opinion cArn just has a great personality he is so integer, authentic and "real" bur also correct.
i adore the players in SK due of their skills but fnatic is really likeable as a team.
so i hope fnatic will perform well and maybe win SK at one time or another.
i just think that carn and dsn can help out to boost the skill of the other 3 players a lot and they all will grow as a person and as a player and hopefully the chemistry in the team will match and they'll be able to do lots of damage international and national!
wish all the best for fnatic to end up the era of "living CS1.6" as a successfull team with a permanent impression.
fnatic absolutely my favourite team now. without any doubt

Post edited 2010-12-13 10:17:08
2010-12-13 10:14:35
I also found it slightly amusing that me and Harley should be replaced with players who barely haven´t won anything in a very long time.... my CV > their CV !!!!

Thats was realy dumb and imature thing to say in an interview. And hes doing it again, underestimating players(robban & allen) just like he did with navi. Good job carn, you gonna fail once again..

watching SK taking fnatic apart will be fun

Post edited 2010-12-13 10:33:19
2010-12-13 10:32:58
He doesn't understimate them as he knows them perfectly... We all know how Robban and allen play...
2010-12-13 15:41:58
haha yeah sure dude, thats your point of view, f0rest and GeT_RiGhT wanted to replace carn and dsn with robban and allen. Carn just got pissed and say stupid stuff, too bad haters cant read adequate.
2010-12-13 17:15:19
Try to read more carefuly, he said if they would replace me with betters players who were on fire that would be okey, but not with players with less cv with have won nothing for a while. No haters here, if you want to replace, you have to replace with betters players not with randoms..
2010-12-13 18:38:52
Well if they didnt achieve that much this year it doesnt mean they are weaker players because its a team game. RobbaN is the best caller in Sweden imho :)
Comparing CV is pretty stupid, WeMadeFOX can be a good example for that.
2010-12-13 20:38:31
nice interview, lookin forward to see the new team play.
2010-12-13 10:33:43
fnatic=carnatic)
2010-12-13 10:39:58
whine to the cheese fnatic gettin asskicked by the top 5 teams the players are just names on the paper...wouldnt be suprised if they split up after some month again..
lets see how they play together cant imagine that dsn wanna be the 2nd awp in the team hf by h8n me
2010-12-13 10:42:45
PEOPLE PEOPLE, don't forget GeT_RiGhT became one of the best if not the best player in the world because of fnatic and cArn, the same thing could happen to players like pita and Xizt dont you think?
2010-12-13 10:45:59
Thats a possibility because Delpan and Xizt are 2 young guns with great potential. And If that happens to be true, I'll be more than happy :P

Again, <3 fnatic!!!
2010-12-13 10:59:46
delpan is not "young" :P
2010-12-13 11:45:25
he meant young in terms of exposure and experience :p

Post edited 2010-12-13 11:54:00
2010-12-13 11:53:12
ohh, he's 21 already xDD

Post edited 2010-12-14 11:05:46
2010-12-14 11:04:07
You know what he means, jesus...
2010-12-13 12:14:22
delpan have more possibilities to be the best he and xizt , lindberg and GTR was stupid , dsn is a legend with or without awp, anyway navi will be happy with all things. get right never has been world best never.
2010-12-13 10:59:50
cArn chose to stay loyal, kinda like niko. Can't blame him.

Besides, GTR isn't what he used to be. Can't remember the last time he was actually good
2010-12-13 10:57:02
The best party that was involved in the situation - FNATIC management. Downright professionalism and common sense on their part.
2010-12-13 11:16:12
What a class act, sounds like a true professional.

I hope they give SK a good trashing, which imo is more than likely to happen. CS is not about aim all that much, which I assumed f0rest & co. knew but apparently not.
2010-12-13 11:40:40
awesome interview, I really hope they beat sk in upcoming tournaments
2010-12-13 11:48:54
I have just to say: Big Bravo MIRAA, nicest interview ever..
Goodluck fnaticMSI and the best IGL in world, cArn.



:).
2010-12-13 11:52:17
Besides the surprise I felt, I also found it slightly amusing that me and Harley should be replaced with players who barely haven´t won anything in a very long time.

Carn overrates him self and looks like he was fucked, p00r c@rn :DD
2010-12-13 11:55:43
he told the truth
2010-12-13 12:30:23
GL Carn, DSN and other fnatic guys...
actually i'm a bit dissapointed about the conflict inside of the team... and in my opinion dsn and carn were always an important part of fnatic, and replacing them was stupid... i really hope that 2011 will a really good year for a new line-up and with help of Delpan and Xizt they will be on top...
2010-12-13 12:03:28
lets face it carn and dsn werent pulling their weight in fnatic (although dsn had some moments),and becoming fed up with that is normal(it happends in all teams to be honest),my point is i dont think everybody should just blame gtr and f0rest for leaving the team,but they should be blamed for leaving gux out of sk(they were risking not finding a good organization but hell they looked loyal to each other).
2010-12-13 12:06:08
these lineups would have been awesome(any of them)

delpan, get_right, threat, gux, f0rest
gux, moddii, dennis, manne, threat


trace, arcadion, karrigan, sunde, zonic
than danish lineup could be the very best
2010-12-13 12:20:56
nice interview. but, those cheapshots made him sound as immature as the people he's calling out.



Post edited 2010-12-13 12:35:11
2010-12-13 12:33:20
good interview. I understand him now but i want to see the other side of this story :D and imo Lions are better on paper than these two since Gux is joining them. but we will see
2010-12-13 12:44:02
KGB > Delpan > WORLD
2010-12-13 12:47:11
Carn is old...
2010-12-13 12:55:01
nice interview!
2010-12-13 13:08:46
If they really do this:

As soon as the Christmas is celebrated with family and nice food, we will go into practice season, where I estimate us playing around 8 hours daily

Then i think they can have a chance. Still its not that much practise.
2010-12-13 13:08:59
by: bly
#408
what change would be necessary to improve the previous team? dns or Gux? :O

cArn great player!!! gl new fnatic.
2010-12-13 13:13:40
both I think. I think that was carn's suggestion of improving the team. Or he would just replace dsn with Delpan. Imo the best move
2010-12-13 13:27:17
nice interview carn:) I'm sure you'll do your best
2010-12-13 13:22:27
fnatic, where the unlikely happens :p
2010-12-13 13:42:19
Great interview. Ty MIRAA.
2010-12-13 13:51:04
Gooo cArn! Fnatic Forever!
2010-12-13 13:59:00
Carn has a pretty arrogant stile and that’s why GuX did not stay after forest and gtr betrayed him
2010-12-13 14:01:13
I've been watch 3-4 interview's with Carn .. did't see or feel any arrogance at all ... I guess you just don't like him ;)
2010-12-13 14:04:58
I HATE carn!!
2010-12-13 14:04:02
those three new additions will be so unsecure at the IEM5 finals because of the pressure from almost whole the scene + management + thousends of other important people. They should set their mindset at +100 and shouldnt read community websites at all. I think they could psysically handle beating SK. But mentally, no.

About cArn having a arrogant style of interpretation; I think he knows that he isnt at a (aim)level like f0rest or GTR. But his experience, dedication and important presence brings some kind of aura towards his team.

If you read this interview carefully.. wow! f0rest played years with them and had such a good chemistry with all. In just wink it's all gone...

Though it was time for a change. Looking forward to this clash of the titans: SK vs fnatic


Post edited 2010-12-13 14:08:52
2010-12-13 14:06:49
but forest is the best player and obviously he want to win some trophies.
2010-12-13 15:53:35
Lol at carn.. What a spiteful comment directed at na'vi. They are clearly a smarter bunch of individuals - the old fnatic team(carn dsn forest gtr gux) were obviously the biggest threat and thus na'vi not wanting to practice verse it. Fnatic were stupid enough to give away everything to a hugely skillful team and they got punnished for it. Na'vi weren't going to make the same mistake. I'm sure na'vi won't have a problem practicing fnatic's utterly pathetic team now however :)

Fnatic had an amazing player pool to pick from in Sweden and yet they are content with keeping burnout players like dsn in their ranks. Loyalties can only take you so far.. And this is an example of when ties should have been cut. We all know carn is one of the greatest leaders of all time, but in this circumstance he has made a poor judgement call and just like the IEM4 finals he and his team will be punnished again.

Post edited 2010-12-13 14:25:13
2010-12-13 14:17:10
lolz... he did not make a poor judgement call... the others wanted him out... fnatic didn't let him go so they left to fnatic... or are you saying that he is stupid for backing dsn?? well anyteam with delpan is gonna be okay... he is the best possible awper...not even markeloff comes close..
2010-12-13 15:40:43
yeah a poor call in backing dsn. if carn had come to the table earlier he would have a sick team, they probably would have just grabbed delpan while he was a free agent and had an awper that can actually impact the game.
2010-12-13 16:36:39
Great interview. Best of luck next year cArn and fnatic
2010-12-13 14:18:54
Nice interview, really informative answers. fnatic über alles
2010-12-13 14:33:15
Sigh I can not comprehend how the fnatic organization can stick with dan.. Sure a great player in his prime but it's over now. Same with walle.. At least SK were smart enough to recognize this.

When they fail in early 2011 hopefully dsn gets the chop as well as pita and they can get moddii and gux in the team.
2010-12-13 14:47:02
great interview, gl cArn and fnatic!
2010-12-13 14:48:45
Good job, really nice interview. Good questions and nice answers - hope carn will teach SK a lesson or two, would be sweet :D
2010-12-13 14:53:21
delpan > SK
2010-12-13 14:55:46
+1
2010-12-13 15:34:38
:D

delpan > all indeed
2010-12-13 18:50:16
haha navi is lil bitches for taking lessons from fnatic and then not wanting to give anything in return....lol i bet they wont be that good this yr bc they have no1 to steal strats/positioning from...
2010-12-13 15:09:40
fnatic team always asocciated me with f0rest
2010-12-13 15:16:53
I dont think you are like f0rest at all
2010-12-13 15:25:19
I think he meant more that when you say fnatic, first thing that comes to mind is probably f0rest.
2010-12-13 23:56:31
great interview juicy as @#$%
2010-12-13 15:25:01
fnatic will be over sk cause
nick f0rest and get_right will shadow face, also robban, the same as they did with gux.

fnatic has 4 great players and one igl.


THEY'll DOMINATE
2010-12-13 15:28:31
One problem... Na`Vi! :D
2010-12-13 18:12:31
GOGO fnatic!!!
2010-12-13 15:29:05
cArn is a really nice person ;p

GL fnatic!
2010-12-13 15:34:27
"People need to understand that when you create a team, you are not only looking for aim, but also, and more important, social and dedicated players who are easy to work with."

That could help a lot of people in here ..
2010-12-13 15:46:49
yep really important.
2010-12-13 17:21:33
Carn is a legend,but he never realize dsn is too soft to compete on the highest lvl, with pita and xizt delpan fnatic is pretty much DEAD for sure.


NOW the big question is wheather the new SK "<" or ">" Navi.

2010-12-13 15:47:21
-1
2010-12-13 16:51:37
forest and carn make the fnatic and without forest it will be very hard.
2010-12-13 15:50:11
GL fnatic, carn and dsn!!!
2010-12-13 15:54:41
HOLYSHIT 8 hours daily 8{.....nolifers
2010-12-13 16:04:29
yeah? its their job, they should treat it that way.
2010-12-13 16:25:00
all pro teams are preparing like that.
2010-12-13 20:25:37
your parents also work 8h per day, or even more, so what's the problem? what is more that guys are having fun and extra money from events
2010-12-13 21:37:46
SK SK SK :D
2010-12-13 16:22:18
GO Na`Vi
2010-12-13 16:30:02
fail
2010-12-13 18:51:27
hahaha i am now saying my friend the carn will end carrer in few days ( dirty joke cuz he loves carn ) so i visit hltv from sarcasm and here is article like cArn : " .... " ... i was scared as hell that he really end :D just sayin
2010-12-13 16:30:52
:D

but he will retire this year for sure :)
2010-12-13 19:08:25
I thought dsn is captain and cArn IGL
2010-12-13 16:38:27
really interesting interview.
ns to know sth. behind.
2010-12-13 17:19:36
fnatic4ever
2010-12-13 17:25:32
cArn is a good leader... he will be able to bring these guys up to top 5 for sure.. but losing get_right and f0rest is bad. They cannot be replaced. Xizt is amazing and will be the next f0rest though.. Delpan is good and so is pita. They will still be top 2 of Sweden.. but this time they will be 2nd to SK :)
2010-12-13 17:27:33
Best of luck to fnatic, I'll be rooting for them fo' sho'.

Bad karma for forest who tried to "retire" cArn and dsn to form his own dreamteam.
2010-12-13 17:28:29
hope to see some nice game from pita :]
2010-12-13 17:30:56
i am looking forward to see next match between SK and FNATIC
2010-12-13 17:32:46
really nice interview, i really hope that new fnatic do a HARD damage
2010-12-13 17:34:31
Anyway Na`Vi > sk, fnatic as always! :D:D:D
2010-12-13 17:34:33
ye! :>
2010-12-13 17:35:18
True to nowadays.

But SK vs fnatic - main swedish battle!

Post edited 2010-12-13 17:41:07
2010-12-13 17:40:34
Yeyeyeyeyeyeah! Na`Vi > fnatic, sk!!! Louuuve! :p


team3d the best! :D

Post edited 2010-12-13 17:48:45
2010-12-13 17:48:21
SK didn't sign MODDII because they didn't have time to do it, RobbaN and allen where sure to go with 3 of fnatic and walle was about to quit the team. MODDII is underated player in eyes of cArn, but i'm sure that he will take the place of dsn as soon as they get that there is no need of 2 primary snipers in a team :)
2010-12-13 17:42:08
Actually dsn is secondary now, but whatever :)
2010-12-13 17:54:37
I don't like fnatic's line up, but
Delpan + moddii + cArn + pita + Xizt would seriously rock, at least they would be able to compete with SK
2010-12-13 20:18:53
why Delpan did not offer to sign MODDII
2010-12-13 17:49:38
Gux was ownd by GTR and forest x)
2010-12-13 17:57:56
nice read, good luck with new line up Patrik.
2010-12-13 18:04:37
I'm not a guy who goes around and regrets stuff, but if I could turn back time we should not have practiced as much against Na'Vi, and what makes this story even more interesting is that these days Na'Vi never want to practice against us, so I guess I have to say hope you enjoyed the lesson and thanks for not giving anything in return, hugs guys!

hmm thats not nice from navi...
2010-12-13 18:11:19
Pretty nice story, dude!
2010-12-13 18:15:00
carn is a really nice guy, good luck with your new team.
2010-12-13 18:31:47
"as both Gux and GeT_RiGhT were treated bad by them when they played for them. "

Ah, ok! Gux was treated very very bad by SK!
2010-12-13 18:51:00
hope you enjoyed the lesson and thanks for not giving anything in return, hugs guys!
???
na'vi is not having friendly matches with fnatic is because of the same reason he regrets training with them, showing their strats and weaknesses to other teams.
2010-12-13 18:56:56
When is IEM ?
2010-12-13 19:02:17
January 20th
2010-12-13 19:07:06
"I have to say hope you enjoyed the lesson and thanks for not giving anything in return, hugs guys!" Can't blame them for not making the same mistake you guys made. Best of luck fnatic!
2010-12-13 19:05:56
navi tha best fuck the rest
2010-12-13 19:22:17
Gl fnatic! :D
2010-12-13 19:22:45
LIONS > sk , fnatic , rage :D GOOO LIONS :D GL fnatic and sk .
2010-12-13 19:49:42
am with fnatic! q:
2010-12-13 20:48:23
Delpan and Xizt are sick, this is gonna be great for fnatiC!!
2010-12-13 21:20:26
still

SK--->fnatic

and lions with gux-sk and fnatic :P
2010-12-13 21:52:08
Gogogo fnatic!
2010-12-13 22:13:34
After IEM5 EU Finals everybody will known who's better SK, Lions or fnatic! :) so GoodLuck for them!!! ;)
2010-12-13 22:23:14
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#562
Well, after EU Finals there are still the World Finals ;)
2010-12-13 22:52:42
Yeap, but before that, they're all need to qualify there :D
2010-12-13 23:01:57
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#567
The ones you mentioned should play quite bad in order to not make it to the Global Finals.
2010-12-13 23:04:51
Who knows... at EU Finals 12 best team's from Europe and many from these team's can surprise us: 1st of them it's mouz (i think with they're new line-up they can do something); 2nd eSahara (french team's always hard to beat); 3rd MYM (they have a lot of things will tell I guess) and other FG, Alternate, CW also can do more damage for top team's...
2010-12-13 23:33:08
Recpect CARN DSN XIZIT PITA AND DELPAN !!! GL ... show everyone what you are skilled !!!
2010-12-13 23:01:48
SK roster is much stronger. Now we will see if they can play together and ofc f0rest's performace without cArn.
2010-12-13 23:03:01
even Carn admided that Forest is 1 of the best aimers and he should not be restrained by tactics so forest is what he is becouse of him carn has so meny wins becouse of players like forest taking down 2-3 players on a run and geting rounds that everibody things they are lost
2010-12-14 07:22:47
forest is the best player in the world , without him carn will not win anything.
2010-12-14 17:09:00
I cant believe that I would ever say it "go fnatic 2011, go and take em down"
2010-12-13 23:36:05
i would "go fnatic and rape sk"
2010-12-13 23:59:07
but fnatic will get raped:((
2010-12-14 03:21:57
Don't be so sure ...
2010-12-14 12:41:06
Respect 4 mr CaRn... I wish U all the best in CS !! :-)
2010-12-13 23:55:59
fnatic dead(((
information 100%
2010-12-14 00:18:01
fnatic dead... this is history..... forest gl
2010-12-14 00:29:30
I've been following fnatic in 2010, and I'd say its time to dSn and cArn retire. Its not a single tournament or a match, they failed the whole year...
2010-12-14 03:21:10
We can comment on each statment he did but the bottom line is SK has the ball now and i really cant see fnatic beat them on a short time, maybe after fnatic finish a few basic strats they have a shot but in 1month i doubd they can acomplish so much except some team chemistry
2010-12-14 07:20:32
gl carn, i'm with you guys !!

fnatic 4 ever
2010-12-14 07:21:03
Good Luck Patruup
2010-12-14 08:29:24
GL cArn!
2010-12-14 10:10:01
good luck fnatic&carn. what about dsn, carn, xizt, sixer, oskar, lodun or something like this.
2010-12-14 10:23:44
I am really looking forward to sk vs fnatic, I hope they face eachother at IEM. Hope I will be able to watch the match:)
2010-12-14 11:05:56
good interview.

after reading what carn said im actually kinda feeling for/with the guy. he (and harley) got brutally backstabbed because of bad results and, from what i can gather, by the players whose own fault it was. quite ridiculous if you think about it.

if these two will match-up in the IEM eu finals i dont know who to cheer on. my brain says SK but my heart says fnatic.

Post edited 2010-12-14 12:37:33
2010-12-14 12:37:09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktRsl2hAPhY


Haha... :D
2010-12-14 14:29:48
+1000000
2010-12-14 14:52:02
omg i got goosebumps when i read my heart says fnatic <3 :p well said!
2010-12-14 20:27:50
lions > fnatic
2010-12-14 15:43:30
we can only hope that Xizt will become next gtr and Delpan or Pita next aimstar like f0rest. These guys are about 20 years old so there is a big oppotunity to make the name.
2010-12-14 15:47:12
Man, I've got a lot of respect for cArn after this. He is always completely honest in his interviews and says how he feels and his side of the story.

Fuck SK.

Go fnatic and Lions!
2010-12-14 16:03:19
+1
yes,cArn is really great guy,shame for f0rest and gtr
2010-12-14 18:03:01
+1 :d
2010-12-14 22:25:01
+1.
Now this team have 5 from the best players in swe/world :)
2010-12-14 20:25:40
+1 ... I hope that they will crush SK
2010-12-14 20:32:27
The only reason why we lost to Na'Vi in the IEM4 finals was that we underrated them. And why did we do that? Well, no one saw them as a threat as they hadn't accomplished anything particular at that time, so we just practiced against them everyday before Hannover without saving any strategies.

Carn, that proves you are a dumb nub >.<
2010-12-14 20:44:51
Counter strike is sport like every other, and may be in kids world u can play with your friends ever, but every player like to win so forest and GTR decide : with carn and i thing especially with dsn they cannot beat Navi so they choose SK. its just their opinion.
2010-12-14 20:47:22
+Moddii and fnatic > SK
2010-12-14 21:03:07
Nice
2010-12-14 21:25:44
So technically Na'vi broke up Fnatic. Sad news.
2010-12-14 21:38:34
Xizt fragmovie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adK10n6dS0k

Delpan and pita fragmovie
http://www.fnatic.com/tv/446/pita-Delpan-fragmovie-Twisted-syndicate.html

Awesome frags. Hope that fnatic can do some serious damage with them
2010-12-14 22:49:34
SK will work out better at least in the short term considering it is 2 teammates merging with 3 teammates,while fnatic has 2 teammates and 3 randies. The time it takes SK to adjust will be shorter than fnatic.
2010-12-14 23:08:00
Aye but they have probably all played together in mixes...atleast the SK guys, but the new fnatic 3, have played with each other maybe not with cArn/dsn that's why I think that SK will trash them until they get good chemistry
2010-12-15 00:12:04
GL fnatic urr nothing without forest and gtr
2010-12-14 23:22:38
not true. the 2006-2008 lineup was pretty darn good even if they were missing gux and gtr. yes, they still had f0rest, but either way they had a pretty similar lineup to the one they have now in terms of the players different playing styles and/or individual qualities.

pita is a very smart and safe-playing rifler like ins was, while Xizt on the other hand is very much alike Archi with everything that includes. last but not least i definitely think Delpan - if he's given enough time - can start to dominate games and carry his team to tournament victories just like f0rest did those 2+ years.

it's not realistic to think they will win competition after competition like in 2009, but i think ... no, i KNOW that they will perform better this year than they did these past 12 months.

Post edited 2010-12-15 01:08:19
2010-12-15 01:07:45
+1
2012-03-09 09:03:41
fnatic team will crush everything was and always will be a great team strength cArn you are going to continue with the success of this team, you and the new players will have a great success .... GL fnatic !!!!!!
2010-12-15 03:14:02
SHOOR :)
2010-12-15 13:38:26
gl cArn
2010-12-15 10:03:46
fnaticc :))
2010-12-15 13:29:46
I want see match SK vs fnatic !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2010-12-15 14:48:24
- pita
+ keiz

Imo it would be better roster.
2010-12-15 15:26:02
in your opinion.. grats!
2010-12-15 23:27:02
fnatic has the upper hand tactic wise imo, because they have 3 new players to bring in new ideas and 2 of their ex-players are in SK which means they won't use the same strats that they did with f0rest/GTR, if they do then that is probably a grave mistake a classic example is on dust2 CT side dsn is boosted to snipe cat/top-mid. GeT_RiGhT and f0rest have gone to SK yes but noone from SK went to fnatic so that could also prove in SK's favour, cArn will need to completely redo their strats but I really think GTR/f0rest will have no time adjusting to RobbaN's strats, as they played together (briefly) once before and probably mixed lots. The last time they played each other was online on nuke but I think fnatic would have won anyway online or LAN. SK has the upper hand experience and aimwise that's why I think they will trash fnatic atleast for the first few games vs each other.
2010-12-15 16:49:17
fnatic <> SK
Coming soon..
2010-12-16 06:08:25
in term of soccer team, fnatic|f0rest was like real madrid's raul gonzales, surely he will be miss, but fnatic will do just fine.


ps to carN: recruit neo or bail instead, with them on fnatic who need the overrated communication skill cmon cs player isnt salesperson :P
2010-12-16 06:25:12
i think carn will mindfuck sk with his clever strats, at least i hope so :D
2010-12-16 16:29:16
Sk <3
2010-12-16 16:42:53
promising team.
2010-12-16 20:31:05
Keiz is a talented player and a nice aimer, but hasn't experience to join a team like fnatic..
2010-12-17 00:40:17
Card - Tac Leader
DSN - Camper
Delpan - Sniper
Xizt - Pistoler
Pita - Sprayer
2010-12-17 20:18:14
Card > Carn
2010-12-17 21:18:04
@clove

look at carns facebook fanpage, you'll be depressed lmfao.
2012-09-08 13:18:06
N`Vi will be best again, changes dont help.
2010-12-19 13:51:42
we'll see!
2010-12-22 17:46:52
lol ,..reading this in 2012 seems that carn took the 2 players he opposed much ie gux and moddii
2012-03-09 10:19:59
Haha, exactly what I wrote several weeks ago in a commenct somewhere on hltv.org ;)
2012-03-09 15:35:13

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