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We now take you on a trip down memory lane, as we will present you several key rounds that changed the history of Counter-Strike.
2010 may be coming to an end, but the game which we love and support has been around for more than a decade. Several tournaments have taken place all over the world and countless amazing rounds have been made, taking the game to a whole new level of action.
Some of these rounds are now only a vague memory, but we at HLTV.org are looking to put them back into the spotlight! That's right, we will be looking at old tournaments to make sure you do not forget about this game's past.
The first video is about the one and only, Ninjas in Pyjamas' Emil "HeatoN" Christensen, who at the CPL World Championship had an amazing clutch round against 4Kings on de_aztec. In this round, the Swedish legend, armed with just a USP, killed two British men, before picking up an AK-47 to deal with the remaining three players.
What about you? Which rounds do you think that deserve to be part of the history of Counter-Strike? Make your voice heard below.
THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO!
and btw what is the soundtrack name ??
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Post edited 2010-12-29 17:40:56
but aparently nobody checked that out yet.
read the 2nd paragraph
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Post edited 2010-12-29 17:42:22
or maybe some frags from the match between 3d and SK in the CPL 2005
And yeah, he did think that casual.
waiting another videos of oldschool =)
I don't think HLTV would choose some random eco-ace to be amongst their "key rounds that changed the history of Counter-Strike."
However, SpawN has actually produced some memorable rounds in his career. For example his ace versus Mousesports, with five headshots on the banana at inferno.
I think Spawn vs Lunatic-hai @ cpl winter 2005 final, should be in the list.
Aswell as zet 1v4 vs mtw.dk @ Dreamhack Winter 2008 final On overtime wich they won.
ohh, allmost forgot Spawn vs NiP @ Cpl winter 2005 Ninja attempt
Post edited 2010-12-29 18:00:54
aztec remember this time -30 fps...
Post edited 2010-12-29 18:02:37
it was an eco round for fnatic in which get_right picked up 2 frags from usp in alley , acquired an ak47 and then finished 3 mtw guys on the netted bombsite ! that round was as glorious as heaton's presented eco round :)
to enlighten yourself... please scroll up a few paces and see what the blog actually says...
What about you? Which rounds do you think that deserve to be part of the history of Counter-Strike? Make your voice heard below.
acc. to me that infy round deserves something... but its imo only
i never tried to define oldschool
Kapio epic knife against Taz @ IEM III Global Challenge Dubai (correct me if i'm wrong)
Post edited 2010-12-29 18:06:03
It reminds me something but i can't get a name on it
He will always be an icon and a hero for lots of young players world over.
And im proud so be a swede because of that guy who changed the world of counter-strike not only with this ace back in the days but his will, to bring his team back up in the hardest of situations and his unbelieveble tactics and leadership. A true teamplayer, nuff said.
"an icon and a hero" seriously?
wipe your tongue buddy =]
no hard feeling, i just think he is indeed a CS legend, but he will never be a hero =]
I'm the one who grew up with this legend..
Seen him make some heroic frags for sure.
WSVG 2007 NiP-walle vs d2x awpace
CPL Winter SK|SpawN vs NiP ninja defuse
CPL SUMMER 2005 FINALS EG.stevenson vs SK 1on4clutch
WCG2006 FINALS NiP.walle vs Pentagram 1on5clutch
ESWC2005 SEMI-FINALS col.tr1p vs Lunatic-hai (1on2clutch)
WCG2004 SEMI-FINALS 3D.moto vs SK 1on4
WCG2002 FINALS M19.nook vs I-eS 1on4clutch
ESWC2007 FINALS PGS.NEO vs NoA 1on3clutch
Those and many others, are must sees :D
sorry for dubblepost..
P.S. A bind is any command attached to a key, not just a custom one.
Post edited 2010-12-29 18:52:10
naSu wallbang with deagle
Eurocup XIII PGS vs NiP @ inferno
NEO vs 2 , 1hp
Post edited 2010-12-29 18:12:07
.esu * Luciano vs HiGhland Online 4usp hs at nuke door ;)
Post edited 2010-12-29 18:15:38
btw i always say the same thing when i see this video of HeatoN: it was all Neffgen fault (the third to die)... he could kill HeatoN easily, but instead of it he throw a HE, run to the stairs, and THEN he decides to shoot HeatoN =/
works every time!
Post edited 2010-12-29 18:21:08
element's smoke trick
neo's 1o2 situation with 1 hp
neo's 1o3 vs mtw eswc final
snajdan's 1 bullet wallbang
edawrd's ace vs fnatic
walle's 1o5 vs pentagramm
and many more :S
Post edited 2010-12-29 18:22:40
"What about you? Which rounds do you think that deserve to be part of the history of Counter-Strike? Make your voice heard below."
Edward's frag deserves to be a part of cs' history, never seen so sick ace against such top-team
But for the thread I'd say walle's awp-ace against d2x, it's just so coool :>
SpawN ninja defuse vs NiP @ CPL Winter 2005 deserves a video... This action really changed the CS scene.
Cal I cbble match jump
moto 1v4 sk gaming
Shot heard around the world
Defusing threw the floor at cpl
trip vs lunatic hai clutch
Knifing for sides 1v5 clutch
spawn almost ninja defuses
the 4º frag doesn't see very well.. it's because is a demo from cs 1.5 ?
Not really. I mean, look at that video? His aim is awful, the enemies have no brains? Do I look back favourably at the times in CS when the skill level was as low as it was back then? Not really.
Progaming has never been at such a high level as it is right now in CS (at least from the perspective of FPSs), this is the time to follow.
That's why it annoys me when people say shit like: "Spawn omfg best player of all time trololo", it's utter bullshit. Yes, he was considered the best player for what like 1 year, just as Heaton was, but put them against any pro player of today and they'll get raped.
his aim is/was amazing ! u said , that two last frags were good .. well what do u except from first three when they're with usp ... heaton will always be remembered cuz of "uber" spray and he will stay legend as long as there is cs.
by the way .. did u watch spawn as standin sk not SO while ago ... he was good even though he doesn't play cs anymore!
Post edited 2010-12-29 22:32:47
First two were with usp. What do I expect? Some decent aim at least. The first kill was lol bad. Fair enough about the second kill, but the other guy should have killed him, where the hell was he shooting? The third kill? LMAO that guy was bad. That spray was by no means "uber".
I guess you'll remember Heaton as the "ubersprayer" what like 5 years ago? I'll remember him the guy who was once considered one of the best players when everyone wasn't even half as good as they are now.
I doubt anyone will disagree with you that players of today would demolish the players of yesteryear's if played today, but put the players of today in a server against HeatoN and crew 9 years ago, they'd be lucky to get 2 rounds. What you see today is a culmination of a game that has been out for 10 years. People have perfected the guns, the strats, the maps, and the settings.
Yes, the game is constantly evolving but certain players have already mastered certain things, i.e. movement (think of Neo for example). Unless a new map is introduced into the pool, he won't get much better. The one thing that is constantly improving is aim. In the past 10 years, it has done so incrementally, also this is likely to slow down over the next several years (but it will get better).
However, there are at least twothings that a progamer is supposed to have mastered by today's standard and those are: radar usage and sound. A bit of common sense would help as well. Look at the 3rd player in the video - he didn't have any of those (nor did he have any aim).
Anyway, to summarise my point, CS is already at such a high standard that improvements to players will come in certain niche areas (and of course, aim). I doubt that I would be calling f0rest's present action noobie in 3 years time.
i'mm off to sleep.bye.take care
edit: anyway, good night ;)
Post edited 2010-12-30 00:59:21
I don't see why you're so hung up on the third player in the clip. Yes, he should have heard him. Hell the second guy should have killed HeatoN. But, that isn't what happened. Do you watch moto vs SK and think it's just terrible because the SK players easily could have just picked up the bomb and planted somewhere else in the site instead of challenging moto? You don't even know how loud the event was, I've seen plenty of events where people obviously can't hear a damn thing. His teammates probably failed to call heaton's position properly. Or consider that 9 years ago, communication wasn't exactly top notch.
Here's all I can tell you since you obviously downloaded steam a couple of years ago, don't watch old clips like these. Don't watch frag or die or any of the old movies, you'll no doubt be very disappointed. Matter of fact, don't watch any clutch movies either, as the other team no doubt fucked up big time to lose most of those rounds.
As for the rest, well, I've been playing CS since 2000 and at my peak I played at a pretty decent level and played against some really good players. I never had a fantastic aim but I was always a pioneer for playing things safe - play to win, so to say, not play to frag.
I watch a lot of pro movies and I criticise many of their decisions i.e. unnecessary pushing in 1v3 etc when you know that the other site is empty. The probability that the enemy will take the 1v3 is higher when you push against him when he's entrenched himself rather than when you force him to leave the site to defuse. Pro players do a lot of this cocky (and dumb) shit as well (but as much as I've been following competitive CS over the past 6 years, they are doing it a lot less). Just because they are pro doesn't mean that the are beyond criticism, doesn't mean that they always do the right thing and doesn't mean that they couldn't play any better. That's why I think that this round isn't that special - the first three 4K players played awfully. Heaton's aim was awful.
Oh and by the way, this is the reason for why I don't download old frag movies - they are shit. It's a bit like... I don't know, watching a tennis match where every 2nd-3rd volley hits the net. It's shit and it's not the reason for why I like this game.
I'm not agreeing with you, I'm providing reasoning why in 3 years someone like you will be saying NEO is washed up and if somehow I'm still around I'll have to defend him. It's also easier to stay good at a game that does not change.
"As for the rest, well, I've been playing CS since 2000 and at my peak I played at a pretty decent level and played against some really good players. I never had a fantastic aim but I was always a pioneer for playing things safe - play to win, so to say, not play to frag."
I highly doubt all of this. You claim to have played since 2000, but call HeatoN's aim awful? I guess I missed all of the CPL titles you won?
"I watch a lot of pro movies and I criticise many of their decisions i.e. unnecessary pushing in 1v3 etc when you know that the other site is empty. The probability that the enemy will take the 1v3 is higher when you push against him when he's entrenched himself rather than when you force him to leave the site to defuse. Pro players do a lot of this cocky (and dumb) shit as well (but as much as I've been following competitive CS over the past 6 years, they are doing it a lot less). Just because they are pro doesn't mean that the are beyond criticism, doesn't mean that they always do the right thing and doesn't mean that they couldn't play any better. That's why I think that this round isn't that special - the first three 4K players played awfully. Heaton's aim was awful."
I assume by pro movies you mean demos, and I don't disagree that criticism of professionals is just fine. What you're doing is criticizing a clip made literally 9 years ago. Players get smarter? No fucking shit? It's the same way in other games, games are out for longer, people master them, new strats are better than old strats. HeatoN's aim was awful now? I thought you were trying to criticize the other team, now you're attacking HeatoN? lol. His aim was not awful, your analysis of the clip is awful.
"Oh and by the way, this is the reason for why I don't download old frag movies - they are shit. It's a bit like... I don't know, watching a tennis match where every 2nd-3rd volley hits the net. It's shit and it's not the reason for why I like this game."
So what the fuck are you doing posting on this thread? If you don't like them, then don't watch them. I think American Idol is shit, therefore, I don't watch it. How you're comparing this clip to watching people hit the net in tennis every 2nd-3rd volley just blows my mind. CS is not fucking tennis.
Your reading comprehension could use some work. I quite clearly said that I wouldn't be calling someone like Neo a noob in 3 years time.
"I highly doubt all of this. You claim to have played since 2000, but call HeatoN's aim awful? I guess I missed all of the CPL titles you won?"
I didn't call Heaton's aim awful per se, he's a fantastic player but when you look at that clip, his sprays on the 1st and 3rd guy are absolutely terrible. That's what ruins the clip for me.
"I assume by pro movies you mean demos,"
I don't watch demos often, mainly fragmovies.
"What you're doing is criticizing a clip made literally 9 years ago. Players get smarter? No fucking shit? It's the same way in other games, games are out for longer, people master them, new strats are better than old strats. HeatoN's aim was awful now? I thought you were trying to criticize the other team, now you're attacking HeatoN? lol. His aim was not awful, your analysis of the clip is awful."
Wrong on both counts. I'm not attacking Heaton. I've provided the basis for my reasoning a number of times already in this thread whereas you still stick to personal attacks.
"So what the fuck are you doing posting on this thread?"
Expressing my opinion.
"If you don't like them, then don't watch them. I think American Idol is shit, therefore, I don't watch it."
Applying your own reasoning - don't respond to my comments any more.
"How you're comparing this clip to watching people hit the net in tennis every 2nd-3rd volley just blows my mind. CS is not fucking tennis."
No shit Sherlock - it's called an analogy.
I'm not sure we're even disagreeing on this point. I was simply trying to point out why someone like Neo won't be washed up in 3 years, even if younger people surpass his skill level. The game isn't changing anymore and so long as he makes some money on the game, he'll probably continue to play it a decent amount.
"I didn't call Heaton's aim awful per se, he's a fantastic player but when you look at that clip, his sprays on the 1st and 3rd guy are absolutely terrible. That's what ruins the clip for me."
Ugh, you said his aim was awful. I don't even see how you can consider his aim awful by those two clips. He killed the first guy with like 7 bullets and had enough left over to kill the second guy. Then you have the audacity to call a heaton spray awful.
"I don't watch demos often, mainly fragmovies."
Great, so you base your entire opinion on a clip on how it is displayed in a fragmovie. I hope I don't have to explain to you why this is not overly intelligent.
"Wrong on both counts. I'm not attacking Heaton. I've provided the basis for my reasoning a number of times already in this thread whereas you still stick to personal attacks."
You're saying his most famous clip is noob. Seems like an attack to me. I've also countered pretty much all of your reasoning and you refuse to see where I'm coming from, so I'm not sure what I'm even trying to accomplish here.
"Expressing my opinion."
I guess I don't understand. You feel the need to inform others that you feel this clip is no longer worth watching? I guess I don't have that much of an overt personality.
"Applying your own reasoning - don't respond to my comments any more."
Circular reasoning, awesome.
"No shit Sherlock - it's called an analogy"
And a terrible one at that, congratulations.
I'm pretty tired of rehashing this subject with you, so lets call it a day. You think heaton is a noob, the irony overwhelms me, but whatever. I'll watch HeatoN vs 4K and think of the great times of the past I had with this game during that era and you can jerk off to get_right ace headshotting entire teams. Everybody wins.
and like someone else said, in 7years if cs is still around, then u will have to call forest and get_right and neo and everyone bad bc it will be the same situation, ur just a depressed little boy who needs to make others feel the same way u do, sad and pathetic. Well its not gonna work kiddo, some of the best players of all time are in these clips, either watch and enjoy or stfu.
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you can't judge who was the best completely from their skill lvl, you have to look at how innovative and skill compared to the rest at the time.
besides this is great fun for a lot of people cause you can re-see what maybe gave you the want to play, and so on.
Don't see how people can big this clip up in more modern times, it was a sensation at the time but now it's hard to watch at how poor the competition was.
My nostalgia-o-meter is not happy!
Ksjarp vs iwa dust2
walle vs x6tence awp ace dust2
Venom inferno m4/usp ace
Matrix Legenden vs nostradamus 3 deagle airshots cbble
Gamers.nu Dsn vs 3D awp ace
Exotic foxj vs sk gaming pistol round on dust 2
hh fun :))
Post edited 2010-12-29 18:55:40
walle vs d2x:
Method vs SK:
Potti vs mTw:
MoRf4r vs x6tence:
HeatoN vs eoL:
GoodFella vs MiBR:
zonic vs DTS:
LeX vs mTw:
bail vs EG:
cyx vs MiBR:
Dosia vs Begrip:
markeloff vs fnatic:
Sunde vs SK:
Post edited 2010-12-29 19:28:59
It from WCG also, and there was no demo.
also Electronic warfare (sunman awp thru wall @ train) etc
Gameness-vani vs. xp-se on d2, a pistol ace... you got the demo on readmore ERRZYX
kwak neffgen lucking mangiacapra! fo real? they were the best UK squad period
CPL Final : NiP vs 4K @de_dust, my first HLTV demo(on CS1.3)..because I searched on astalavista: "best counter-strike player". XeqtR came up..back it up!
so old I can't remember which year it was..
Post edited 2010-12-29 20:19:51
on botton halls, hes near the stairs, after some flashs and he's, he peak and see all 5, he show himslef and spend 30 bullets to kill all of them in one spray with m4, for me is just epic.
it was 99-2000. good oldie times...
Post edited 2010-12-29 20:28:21
mibr|KIKOOOO ace against SK on inferno (2004 I guess)
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he has one round that changed the scene ;)
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It was insane to see and it kind of changed my interest in norwegian CS.
What competition was that swedes vs poles match on?
Post edited 2010-12-29 21:48:07
and the same game method 1vs3
Probably the greatest long/mid range quickscopes I've seen in competitive play.
The first important rounds that came to my head were the ones Loord did last year versus fnatic at WCG (train and nuke).
SpawN -4 versus Lunatic Hai was sick and decisive for the match.
Post edited 2010-12-29 21:46:55
- this isn't to say "nice" etc etc
i've notified MIRAA about this, just waiting for something to happen.
and actually, its 1.3 not 1.1
Post edited 2010-12-30 01:28:19
Prove that im wrong and I agree.
Post edited 2010-12-30 17:37:09
And please, next time, you you want to have an actual, conversation don't call me an idiot. Thanks for the information tho.
[9.12.01] is Month/Day/Year
That said, 1.3 was released on 12 September 2001.
You can check that by yourself in older versions, just scroll down to the beta "area".
Feeling silly now I bet? And in case you want to confirm, go ahead and google it.
moto 1vs4 SKgaming in inferno
Spawn Ninja DEfuse
walle 1v5 ace clutch
That was one of the best moments in Counter Strike history in my opinion ! =DD
nice vid tho...song name?
OliGan 1on3 against emL (it's not that oldschool but it's the only movie i found)
Post edited 2010-12-30 11:23:32
Potti vs mTw, de_nuke. The most awesome performance of 1.5 CS. Taking out 5 terrorists with the bomb planted, using one single clip? Outstanding.
"Kebab, I eat a lot of kebab" :D
These times it's been a pretty nice round, but well, actions like this may even be spotted around FFA servers.
It was a big tournament, with large importance, but still - nothing as awesome.
Some of the eoL players frags (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ9D7O06xxs&feature=related) and (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux_dNgbxzUI&feature=related)
(P.S. i use noforcemaccel and noforcemparms)
I faced this problem in a cafe once with the Mx518 too. U fire and the sensi goes low, u lkeave the button and it reverts back to normal :(
Frag or Die is the best movie !
Counter-Strike movie featuring all legends
It's my favorite movie