Top 20 players of 2010: fRoD (14)
Time: 2011-01-07 14:20
Game: Counter-Strike 1.6

One of the best awpers in the history of CS and a Best Counter-Strike Player award-winner in 2005, Danny "fRoD" Montaner takes the 14th position in our Top 20 players of 2010 list, as he showed us during the last year that he is still one of the best in the world.

Basic information

Player: Danny "fRoD" Montaner
Team: Evil Geniuses
Age: 24

Team achievements in 2010:

1st - MSI BEAT IT, ESEA-Invite S5, ESEA-Invite S6, ESEA-Invite S7
2nd - IEM5 American Championship Finals, WCG Pan-American Championship
3rd - Arbalet Cup Dallas

Stats from major LAN tournaments in 2010:

Kills per round: 0.76
Deaths per round: 0.65
Rating: 1.13 (?)
Maps played: 60
MoM: 12 times top rated in a match
Best tournament: Arbalet Cup Dallas
Best map: de_train
Most notable stat: 4th best in kills per round with awp (0.25)

Danny "fRoD" Montaner joined Evil Geniuses in December 2008 after being a part of compLexity since mid-2004, including the time spent playing CS:Source in CGS. Upon his return to 1.6 he quickly got his form back, even though EG wasn't overly successful in 2009, winning only GameGune Mexico and placing 3rd at Arbalet Cup Europe at the very end of the year. In 2010 the team progressed along with Montaner, winning a more prestigious international tournament, MSI BEAT IT, and more importantly, showing that they can beat almost any top team at a given day.

A promising beginning

The first international tournament for the American team was to be IEM4 World Championship in Hannover. They had a brilliant start when they placed first in their group after defeating teams like fnatic, mTw and Frag eXecutors. However, they didn't continue in the same manner as they were later beaten by Na`Vi in the semi-final and then by SK in the 3rd place decider. Montaner overall had an average tournament, with some ups and downs, recording a 1.01 rating. His brightest moment was surely his performance against fnatic when he recorded a 29-18 score, while outawping his opponents 20-1. He also finished as the events second most successful awper with 72 kills (0.27 per round).


He showed during IEM4 World that his AWP will be on fire this year

A short while after Hannover, Evil Geniuses won a title in their domestic competition, ESEA-Invite Season 5, while Montaner was their best player at the LAN finals of the tournament.

Next major tournament for EG was Arbalet Cup Europe, which turned out to be their least successful one of the year, as they didn't make it past the first group stage. Although, some controversy surrounded their group which saw WeMade FOX and UNiTED go through. They did however have a bright spot in the tournament, managing to defeat SK Gaming in a match that could have potentially brought them to the next stage, while Montaner was the best rated player of that encounter.

In July, they attended ESWC in Paris, France where this time they managed to make it to the second group stage, but then they were easily dealt with by mTw and Frag eXecutors. Montaner however had a very good tournament individually, as he was rated above 1.00 in 4 of 5 matches (1.17 overall rating), while his standout performance was against Ukrainian team PinG when he recorded a 38-19 score.

Next up were another LAN Finals of ESEA-Invite in Dallas, this time for season 6, as Evil Geniuses managed to defend their title in North America and Montaner had a solid tournament with a 1.14 rating.

Fulfilling the potential

Over the next few days, Arbalet Cup Dallas was held at the same venue as Evil Geniuses managed to achieve their biggest success until that point in the year, finishing at 3rd place only behind Na`Vi and mousesports. Montaner himself had a very successful showing (1.22 rating, 7th best at the event), especially excelling in their quarter-final match against BURNING when he recorded an astonishing 2.02 rating over the two maps, practically singlehandedly defeating the French. He also played great in each map of their 3rd place decider versus H2k. But most importantly, he was named the Best AWP of the tournament, recording a total of 100 kills with the big green (0.26 per round).


Montaner with his trophy for Best AWP of Arbalet Dallas

Evil Geniuses traveled to Brazil next, to attend WCG Pan-American Championship where they placed 2nd behind FireGamers, although while using a stand-in instead of their in-game leader Tomi "lurppis" Kovanen. Montaner was the event's second best rated player with an excellent 1.34 rating while putting up great resistance in the final map of the tournament (37-24 personal score) which his team lost in double overtime.

MSI BEAT IT tournament in China followed, where EG showed their best form of the year, which culminated with their victory over fnatic in the final as they took the 1st place. Montaner had a very good tournament individually recording a 1.12 rating, while he was also the best awper by far with 0.26 kills per round. He played particularly well in the final against fnatic, where he was the top rated player over the 3 maps with a 1.35 rating, especially great in the last map when he recorded a 30-12 score while outawping the Swedes 18-0.


Montaner was the key man in the final of MSI BEAT IT

Prior to their next international appearance, which was going to be in Los Angeles at the World Cyber Games, Evil Geniuses made a lineup change, bringing in Derek "dboorN" Boorn instead of Ediz "goodfornothing" Basol. They were also unable to use their in-game leader Kovanen once again due to his nationality. But that didn't stop them from making it through the group of death which contained Lions and F2F, although they were later stopped in quarter-final by eventual finalists mTw. Montaner did not excel at this tournament, recording only a 0.96 rating, as well as his lowest awpKPR of the year (0.16).

Montaner picked his form up only a week later at the IEM5 American Champioship Finals, by being the top rated player of the event with his personal best rating of the year, 1.43. Even though EG were again defeated by the Brazilians in the final, this time under the name of Montaner's ex-team compLexity, they managed to qualify for the IEM5 World Championship in March 2011.

In their last international appearance of the year, the American team attended WEM where they finished as 5th-6th. Montaner had his worst rating of the year, 0.81 overall from their 3 matches, but he once again showed his best against Swedish powerhouse fnatic when he outawped them 24-1 in a triple-overtime encounter which EG managed to win. That match also brought what was probably his highlight round of the year:


Montaner's amazing 4 kills with the awp against fnatic in WEM

At the end of November, EG defended their ESEA-Invite title once again, proving their dominance in the North American scene with 3 championships in a row, while Montaner had a solid 1.09 rating.

Still one of the best AWPers in the world

Montaner had a total of 392 kills with the awp at major international tournaments, which was 5th most of all players. Looking at the average he was even better as 4th best in the world with a 0.25 awpKPR. Another area where he impressed was first kills of a round where he was the 7th most successful overall looking at the difference of entry kills and deaths per round.

His major achievements include winning MSI BEAT IT and placing 3rd at Arbalet Dallas, along with 3 domestic titles and two second places at American-based events. Individually, he was awarded the best AWP at Arbalet Dallas and was also unofficially the best AWP at MSI BEAT IT, meaning he was crucial in both of his team's major successes. All those things make him a worthy candidate for our Top 20 list, although he had some bad performances as well, which puts him at the 14th position.

It might also be interesting to note that Montaner was the 4th best rated player on de_train, which when coupled with his teammate Jordan "n0thing" Gilbert (2nd best rated) helps to make Evil Geniuses one of the strongest teams in the world on that map.

Another interesting fact from Montaner's 2010 campaign might be his performance in matches against fnatic which seem to make him especially motivated. While his team defeated the Swedes in all 3 of their clashes during the year (4-1 in map-wins), Montaner had an astonishing 80 kills with the awp and was only killed by it 3 times, having an overall rating of 1.32 in those matches.

Recommended demos of fRoD in 2010:

If you want to check out some of his matches that were mentioned in this article, you can find links to those demos right here:

Opponent Map Event Score Demo
fnatic train IEM4 World (Group stage) 29-18 POV
oXmoze inferno IEM4 World (Group stage) 32-16 POV
SK inferno Arbalet Europe (Group stage #1) 22-12 HLTV
PinG train ESWC 2010 (Group stage #1) 38-19 POV
Finesse dust2 Arbalet Dallas (Group stage #1) 26-12 POV
BURNING! inferno Arbalet Dallas (Quarter-final, map 1) 22-7 POV
BURNING! nuke Arbalet Dallas (Quarter-final, map 2) 30-8 POV
H2k train Arbalet Dallas (3rd place, map 2) 23-10 HLTV
FireGamers train WCG Pan-Am (Final, map 2) 37-24 HLTV
fnatic train MSI BEAT IT (Final, map 3) 30-12 HLTV
d2x train IEM5 Am Finals (Semi-final, map 2) 26-5 HLTV
fnatic dust2 WEM 2010 (Lower round 1) 33-30 HLTV


If you missed our previous article about Roman "roman" Ausserdorfer, click here or if you want to see who else is on the list when it is updated, head over to our Introduction article here.

What do you think about the performance of Danny "fRoD" Montaner in 2010? Does he deserve a place in the Top 20? What was your biggest impression of him this year? Feel free to leave a comment on this topic and stay tuned to HLTV.org if you want to see what the rest of the Top 20 looks like, as we will bring you number 13 tomorrow.

Tags: fRoD

cool
2011-01-07 14:20:57
well deserved!he and n0thing were the only ones who played good for EG this year
2011-01-07 14:21:38
What about lurppis? what you're saying is completely ignorant
2011-01-07 17:13:05
+ 1. Lurppis showed incredible leading skills.
2011-01-07 17:37:43
u mean 2010
2011-01-08 15:10:27
ahhahahahahha. gfn storm and lurppis are insane in last year.
2011-01-08 15:48:17
Outstanding player
2011-01-07 14:21:49
o.o
15-20 guys > fRoD @2010

anyway: gratz, i like his awp style ^^

Post edited 2011-01-07 14:23:41
2011-01-07 14:22:18
totally true.
2011-01-07 16:25:30
lol, how is that true? I guess you didn't read the article. He completely deserved this, I really don't understand how you can say otherwise.
2011-01-07 22:52:18
He was EG's best player last year, he deserves it !
2011-01-07 14:23:06
n0thing>fRoD imo
2011-01-07 14:23:13
by: Aaz
#41
agree
2011-01-07 14:43:48
with m4 and ak ye, but with awp frod is t3h man
2011-01-07 14:59:11
again... Comparing an awp with a colt/ak...
2011-01-07 15:43:06
+1
2011-01-08 11:25:33
really i hate this player , sorry but its my opinion :)))
2011-01-07 14:24:42
I used to respect him, not after what he Did tho.
2011-01-07 15:03:23
+1
2011-01-07 15:46:28
what did he do ?
2011-01-07 15:46:51
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyK4C9mMi4w&feature=player_embedded

i think they mean this ;p
2011-01-07 16:02:47
i never saw that i just incredible, u cant do that is so low
2011-01-07 17:08:58
i mean who the fuck places a big screen next to the players? !
2011-01-07 17:24:18
+1
2011-01-07 17:39:24
So? Even thought they put a Screen where they shouldn't, what fr0d did it's not correct.
If someone gives you some undeserved advantage you shouldn't accept and try to win the right way.
2011-01-07 20:29:23
you KNOW that if any other person was put in that situation they would have done the same thing. that's like putting candy in your mouth and telling you not to taste it.
2011-01-08 01:53:03
no i don't, if there are alot of people that would do it then the world is becoming really bad, where sportmanship and fairplay doesn't exist adn only win at all cost matters
2011-01-08 02:50:13
i think this is not forests screen if i see right the 1st clip the guy is whit mp5 in the 2nd f0rest is whit AK47
2011-01-07 20:35:13
and he left 1.6 for source
this guy has only passion for money... sad!
2011-01-07 22:08:12
lol if you took away money from CS 1.6 99% of the pros would quit CS 1.6 forever.

He only went to play source because CGS was paying them an actual salary he could live off of.
2011-01-08 03:57:34
so what? Ok, he's bastard. But a kickass player may be a f-ing child molester/rapist/nazi/you name it.
2011-01-08 10:43:23
lol still talking about that? u would have 95% of pro players if everything was always filmed...its sad that u think forest/markeloff/get_right/neo havent done same thing...
2011-01-07 16:49:02
Show me proof then, until you dont have it you cant say its a fact that "95% of pro players..." Anyway if thats true, we really just should stay with the 5% that plays honest C:
2011-01-07 17:25:24
Alright, everyone listen.

EG was playing fnatic, a team that was without a doubt one of the top 3 teams in the world during the time that WEM took place. Their deciding match was brought into DOUBLE OVERTIME, in the semi(?)finals of the event. Regardless of the material prizes at stake, I think we can all agree that something that is sought after at these events is prestige. With all of this in mind, is anyone honestly surprised that frod made a split second decision to glance at the ENORMOUS screen placed in front of him, showing the POV of the last enemy alive, in the round that would win them the match? Yes, it was wrong of him, but to say that no one else has ever manipulated the game or the tournament layout to their advantage before him is lying through their teeth. (Remember when WMF defused through the box? I didn't see anyone losing all of their respect for WMF after that, seeing as how they were showered with praise after they won WEM)

Anyway, you can have your opinions, but I personally believe that to lose all respect for someone who's been around since the very beginning of competitive counter-strike because he made one illegal move 7-8 years into his career is complete shit.
2011-01-07 17:52:07
Well, I guess as a player, people might make mistakes. But trying to justify that move just disgust me.

He cheated to win the round and he did win. The refrees didnt catch them so they secured the win. But, the move he did was cheating the rule which will of course result losing respect as a player.

2011-01-07 18:09:29
Yeah termi did illegal defuse, I never was a pretty fan of WMF anyway LOL, he did really bad, same as frod but the difference is that i did have respect for froD. I know WMF actually have pretty good strats but I just dont like their style that much.
termi was really focused on the game at that moment and decided to do that defuse(bad decision) froD in the other hand, DIED and immediately looked up to the screen and started ghosting, I mean he was already DEAD he can think Clearly.

I would lose respect for someone who cheats bad show me proofs C:

Post edited 2011-01-07 18:17:59
2011-01-07 18:16:53
I totally agree with you, but please consider how big the prize money was. I don't try to justify the move or anything, just considering how much they could earn with that it's somewhat natural to do everything in your power to ensure the money.
Again, I understand your point, ghosting is so unsportsmanlike.

Performancewise id say it's fair to place him 14th on the list, he's been fantastic recently. I never really liked american teams for their attitude, not even the real crowd favourite complexity, but i agree that frod did some crazy shit with awp this year. :)

Post edited 2011-01-07 21:04:00
2011-01-07 20:55:05
The size of the prize money makes his actions WORSE.
2011-01-08 04:28:29
I just tried to reveal that this "slip" doesn't make him worse as a player.

His action was disgusting, no doubt...

(I still believe most of the whiners here would have done exactly the same. Nowadays players have forgotten a very important notion. It's called fairplay.)

Post edited 2011-01-08 08:17:01
2011-01-08 08:11:23
If anyone has manipulated anyhing during a tournament and got caught they wouldn't be respected anymore. Saying everyone would have done the same thing is just dumb, hes a cheater and always will be a cheater he doesn't deserve this at all. I am very sad to see Americans are standing up for him.
2011-01-08 02:22:33
agree eg suck
2011-02-04 03:32:43
lolol he did what most of us would do if we have a big screen with our rivals playing in front of us ....

dont hate a great player like him
2011-01-07 20:21:01
You are a scrub then if you would have done the same thing.
2011-01-08 02:22:58
omg you are such a kid -.-

frod is one of the greatest awper in history of cs

have some respect ...
2011-01-08 15:15:36
I had a lot of respect before he did this. He is a great player but that doesnt mean he gets respect. I am pretty sure you are the kid who thinks its ok for people to cheat just because they are good players?
2011-01-08 22:05:26
well i think that 7/10 players would ghost if they had that opportunity WEM gave. BUT... correct me if i'm wrong... fRoD denied ghosting for his teammate afterwards which if that's the case is really pathetic
2011-01-07 23:56:19
lurpiss denied hearing him and it was pretty loud...iunno I'll give him the benefit of the doubt

Sometimes players talk to themselves but maybe I'm just an optimist
2011-01-08 04:00:09
Go watch lurrpis slow down when frod says "off off off" and tell me he didnt hear him. The fact is forest probably still would have lost but now we will never know but we do know frod will cheat if given the chance.
2011-01-08 22:06:40
Nice. Well Deserved!
2011-01-07 14:24:57
vs fnatic of MSI BEAT IT nice dem.

Post edited 2011-01-07 14:26:10
2011-01-07 14:25:44
lool
2011-01-07 14:26:56
surprise ;p
2011-01-07 14:27:02
by: blg-
#14
LoL
2011-01-07 14:27:42
by: AMP
#15
sick -4 against fnatic
2011-01-07 14:28:00
gj
2011-01-07 14:28:33
nice
2011-01-07 14:28:51
bullshit
2011-01-07 14:29:49
he's nice :)! im just sad that he "ghosted" in (cant remember the event :S) was it wcg ? Estars Soul ?
2011-01-07 14:30:35
BEAT IT, wasn't it? :p
2011-01-07 14:32:06
by: nuer
#43
nah it was at WEM.
2011-01-07 14:45:18
Ah, my bad.
2011-01-07 15:38:45
i was searching for that link to show my friend, but had no luck, can any1 give it to me?

edit: found it few posts down

Post edited 2011-01-07 15:50:35
2011-01-07 15:49:58
cheating vs fnatic biatch.
2011-01-07 14:30:41
:(
2011-01-07 14:31:38
FRODOOOOO
2011-01-07 14:32:47
Cheater at WEM vs fnatic!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyK4C9mMi4w&feature=player_embedded
2011-01-07 14:33:08
+1

imo frod has always been a kind of douche..
2011-01-07 14:34:31
+1
2011-01-07 15:27:56
Im not saying he wasnt..
I didn't liked the thing he has done too. BUT.. you think you wouldnt ghost if you had a chance to lead your team to victory?
Sometimes try to stand into the guys youre judging pants
2011-01-07 15:51:47
agree ;)
2011-01-07 17:01:02
yeah, that's why they won! ffs
2011-01-07 14:34:57
by: hdN
#34
Blame the event holders for placing a 40inch screen next to frod.
2011-01-07 14:36:19
If you have Ethic you wouldn't look at it C:
2011-01-07 15:04:54
by: hdN
#72
If we had ethics would we still be fighting in WW2.
2011-01-07 15:23:15
That doesn't make any sense.
2011-01-07 15:31:05
yes, it does.
2011-01-07 16:18:12
it doesnt
2011-01-07 16:37:34
It DOES !!........... NOT
2011-01-08 02:57:56
No it really doesn't, and you must be a tremendous retard if you think it does.
2011-01-08 16:14:21
ehm where were fnatic? usually they should be next to them so I assume that screen was just between them, so how do u know that fnatic never looked at the screen? :P I bet everyone would do it me included...
2011-01-07 14:53:08
I wouldn't.
2011-01-07 15:05:20
then why any other players of EG havent been watchin' and reporting where is f0rest? Because ITS AGAINST RULES.
2011-01-07 15:17:20
it's fail of people who organised it. who the heck places that kind of screen in place where players can see it?
2011-01-07 15:35:19
+1 I think the same thing..
2011-01-07 15:49:39
frod was not cheating for his team.it was just that he had eaten a lot of chilly burgers before the match and as the match went into overtime...the pressure became overwhelming and that forced him to do that.
2011-01-07 18:13:01
lolol he did what most of us would do if we have a big screen with our rivals playing in front of us ....

dont hate a great player like him

(i copy/past again from above x) )
2011-01-07 20:22:48
fallen :s
2011-01-07 14:33:40
trololol
2011-01-07 15:14:09
SICK! best AWP EVER! cs1.6
2011-01-07 14:34:28
the ghosters xD ahahah nice hltv
2011-01-07 14:35:32
a bit too high in the ranks for me, 16-20 i would say, but well done fRoD.
2011-01-07 14:35:55
no cheater , he use all possible, the computer is possible to see the fnatic , so it's the organisation no EG , opportuniste !
2011-01-07 14:40:08
nice :D
2011-01-07 14:41:20
frod > dsn .. seriously?
2011-01-07 14:42:37
by: Aaz
#44
he is!
2011-01-07 14:45:18
I'm not saying one is better than the other, but if you read the article, you'll realize there's a part saying "Another interesting fact from Montaner's 2010 campaign might be his performance in matches against fnatic which seem to make him especially motivated. While his team defeated the Swedes in all 3 of their clashes during the year (4-1 in map-wins), Montaner had an astonishing 80 kills with the awp and was only killed by it 3 times, having an overall rating of 1.32 in those matches." wich means, he managed to awp 80 players and only get killed 3 times by DSN's awp. I do agree that this year frod pulled a better performance than DSN.
2011-01-07 16:24:23
+1
2011-01-08 04:29:56
lol all the best pov demos were against oXz
2011-01-07 14:43:41
lol
2011-01-07 23:15:00
fRoD GIANT

Post edited 2011-01-07 14:57:40
2011-01-07 14:56:33
Next ave
2011-01-07 14:56:43
15-20 players better than fRoD this year, my opinion

Post edited 2011-01-07 14:58:55
2011-01-07 14:58:46
Fr:oD ? good)
2011-01-07 15:00:56
GL E.G.
2011-01-07 15:03:49
amazing player :)
I'm his fan :D
2011-01-07 15:04:10
by: yg29
#61
very nice,wait to see n0thing in top10,he was awesome @2010
2011-01-07 15:06:17
<3 Montaner
2011-01-07 15:09:42
frod top14? its joke?
2011-01-07 15:12:45
he deserves better place.. definatly
2011-01-07 15:15:50
ofc
2011-01-07 15:38:45
I excpected him in top10 at least..
this is foolish for me.. couz' it's unfair , he deserves better spot .
2011-01-07 15:15:20
probably no1 from complexity will be top20, and fnx is better player than many people listed top20. This ranking is made using "WHO HAS MORE GETS MORE" way, so... I mean, just peri from asia in top20? And no1 from Brazil? nonsence...
2011-01-07 17:12:04
Dude .. these ratings put more weight on the team placings at events rather than who has more individual raw talent. And by placings, hltv is more keen to note MAJOR international event placings. Now you know :)
2011-01-07 21:40:26
Ok... TaZ?
2011-01-07 22:17:53
i did not like it when he ghosted against fnatic!
2011-01-07 15:24:16
he want practise and sport omq!
2011-01-07 15:29:00
+1
2011-01-07 16:14:32
fr0d has been one of the best awpers for so long...he gets my respect for that!

Maintaining such a high level over a long period is no easy thing.
2011-01-07 15:30:58
one of the best...what? where? lol....
2011-01-07 15:36:27
lol anywhere u look, there are stats which are facts, things that actually happened...u can deny it all u want, but u cant fight the facts
2011-01-07 17:54:51
u...
Open ur eyes..
N read the article...!!
2011-01-08 05:31:55
Saying 'lol' is smart enough? Try saying something more concrete.
2011-01-08 13:42:21
frod> dsn or roman or zeus or peri??lol
Ridiculous.
2011-01-07 15:31:13
There is something called stats in this world? Do you have another objective way of doing it?
2011-01-07 15:34:46
Yeah my friend.You are right.There is something called stats in this world.
So frod> roman?
Frod is one of the best in cs1.6, but not in cs1.6 2010.
2011-01-07 15:45:22
this ranking does not mean hes better.

it just means he had better stats than roman.
2011-01-07 18:19:07
you don't look at the stats. He had higher fpr and rating this year than even roman.
2011-01-07 22:59:19
What you and everyone is trying to do is have YOUR dream players get listed in the order you desire...which obviously varies from person to person.

This is ONE OF THE WAYS of doing it fairly. You may not agree to it but it is certainly more objective than you saying roman>fr0d on your own assessment alone.
2011-01-08 13:41:33
what the hell is wrong with these people spamming the topic down the drain with useless comments...
2011-01-07 15:33:29
... like yours
2011-01-07 15:57:52
+1
2011-01-07 20:35:57
hp frog?

he's still great
2011-01-07 15:36:11
name soung ?


Post edited 2011-01-07 15:39:26
2011-01-07 15:38:42
by: MadeInLondon - HLTV.org
#91
it's usually in the description on the youtube page.
2011-01-07 15:44:56
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#236
Well, usually does not mean always ;P
2011-01-07 23:17:50
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#239
BT (ft. M. Doughty) - Never Gonna Come Back Down
2011-01-07 23:29:43
deserved !
and not frod was cheating , organisators were :P
2011-01-07 15:48:16
don't like him, cause of ghosting vs fnatic
2011-01-07 15:48:18
fnatic>2*eg
2011-01-07 15:52:49
don't like him ;[ but gj
2011-01-07 15:53:12
by: Dare_Dev1L - HLTV.org
#103
Good player, but dislike the person due to his attitude he's had during and after interviews especially during the EG vs coL era.

Doesn't hurt to keep a smile on your face and answer questions cleanly without putting blame on other people all the time.
2011-01-07 15:53:15
not many players stay this consistent for their whole career like fRoD has..

well deserved, but i actually figured he would be a bit higher..
2011-01-07 15:58:50
stop flaming him ...it was never prooved beyong a doubt that he ghosted at WEM ....alot of players talk while their dead ....
2011-01-07 16:07:58
still top 5 awper. its not ez for him!!
but i think roman>fRoD
2011-01-07 16:12:43
dsn > frod, so =D
2011-01-07 16:58:46
Did you read the article? Frod out-awped fnatic all year.
2011-01-07 17:55:32
Mr.FroDo
2011-01-07 16:20:26
Zeus 19 Frod 14.... funny
2011-01-07 16:20:56
umm... K/D difference.
2011-01-07 17:04:35
fail
2011-01-07 16:21:49
one of the best players of all time, glad he had a good year. shame he kinda looks like a tramp
2011-01-07 16:31:15
Deserves no respect, ghosting cheater.
2011-01-07 16:42:37
FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
2011-01-07 16:56:05
h8 em
2011-01-07 16:58:22
hight them?
2011-01-07 17:00:07
..
2011-01-07 19:59:15
you have done the same thing in his place
2011-01-07 16:59:53
lmao, no way that fRoD has been better than any of the guys ranked worse than him. at least not if you look past statistics, so i guess this feature is 100% based on stats...?
2011-01-07 17:01:47
Lol, HOW? And btw, are the stats lying or something? Dumb person.
2011-01-07 23:00:49
stats can be deceiving indeed. perhaps many of the frags are done while the other team is on an eco or the frags done are not very important. there's a couple of examples. i'm not saying that he's been bad, cuz he hasn't been, but i (and many others) think other players has shone more.

if it weren't all on statistics, a player like Zeus would be top10.
2011-01-08 14:03:53
LOL what else do u go by other than stats? What could possibly be better to go by other than stats? should they base it on the opinions of the community? ur a complete moron, pls dont post here anymore.
2011-01-08 09:10:45
i guess the most objective way to do it is by stats. but, for instance, leadership can't be measured in stats which means it all comes down to how good you aim is and what kind of positions your ingame-leader have put you in. some players perhaps gets to hold a very defensive position on an anti-eco round while someone else is more offensive and get all the frags. does the defensive player get +5 frags for holding that position? no. does he get bonusfrags for stepping up in much more vital rounds than the anti-eco? no.

you see, there are a lot of flaws of the statistics system, but yes, perhaps it's the best way of creating a ranking. i would rather read a ranking based on someone's opinion though, and by that i mean someone who watch a ton of games and cover events.
2011-01-08 14:10:35
aaaaafff frod 14º?? fallen 5º !!

frod + dsn + delpan = fallen

.. fly nob ..
2011-01-07 17:02:15
Haha u cant be serious :)
2011-01-07 19:24:43
dont say shit plz brazilian fanboy HUEHAUEHAUHE
2011-01-07 17:07:22
lol, in what universe frod is better than roman?
2011-01-07 17:08:13
In stats universe.. :)
2011-01-07 20:38:00
serious
Fallen top10 i think , but delpan > fallen
2011-01-07 17:08:26
frod is a great aimer:)
2011-01-07 17:13:16
nice, great player!
2011-01-07 17:13:42
It's the same thing when some soccer player scores a goal with his hand,and refree doesn't see that,so the goal is "regular". And that player is a cheater for sure,but 99% of ppl would do that to take an advantage in certain situations if it's possible,same like frod did.
I'd blame organisators for making that mistake,it would be the same if a director of some club put a naked girl in front of you,and say "Don't look at her tits,it's not allowed."
Anyway,i don't support the thing he did,but it's a normal thing in human's nature,to have a need to win,and take advantage of whatever you can.

Post edited 2011-01-07 17:25:08
2011-01-07 17:23:41
99%? If you're a douchebag like he is, it doesn't mean that everybody is. I don't see 20 football players handballing every match.
2011-01-07 17:42:27
em...thats why Henry was hated by everyone after leading the french to WorldCup by a little cheating.

they can do anything to win, but CHEATING is not the sports spirit

Post edited 2011-01-07 18:13:28
2011-01-07 18:12:27
Such idiotic comments in this thread overall.
2011-01-07 17:25:46
gj !
2011-01-07 17:34:12
Fallen could be top20, but higher than top14.. I believe he wouldn't.
2011-01-07 17:36:03
ofcourse fRoD is better than roman....
2011-01-07 17:38:12
nah he isn't, Roman is the best player of germany, and also Mouz. didn't play half of the year.
2011-01-08 19:18:04
Great player but I rly don´t like him since the ghosting

FAIR PLAY DANNY, fair play
2011-01-07 17:39:06
overrated
2011-01-07 17:42:08
+1
2011-01-07 17:56:38
+1
2011-01-07 22:31:28
+1
2011-01-08 13:44:04
I wish i could stamp the word STATS on almost all of ur monitors....how can u possibly be overrated when they are basing ur rank on ur stats...stats tell u exactly what u have done during the year, theres no opinions involved, they are straight up facts that cannot be altered...he did what he did, and thats why hes ranked where hes ranked. U cant take that from him, bc there is factual evidence on paper that tells u where he ranks among players, ur opinion means nothing. so I -1 u

Post edited 2011-01-08 09:14:33
2011-01-08 09:13:58
Wish there was a way to downrate your comment..it's too overrated at the moment!
2011-01-08 13:46:14
he is good...but he is far from what he was back in 2003-04

well i think 14th is good enough for him...
2011-01-07 18:05:11
'03-'04 Frod was basicly nothing, frod didn't shine untill mid/end '05...
2011-01-08 19:19:28
nothing on 03/04?
2011-01-08 22:46:27
he was good ofc. but he became really good in 05-06 03-04 wasn't really Frod as such.
2011-01-09 01:36:00
overrated in my opinion

Post edited 2011-01-07 18:06:37
2011-01-07 18:06:15
probably what makes you think he's overrated is the same motive that make other players think fox is overrated :)
2011-01-08 04:56:51
I used to like this player but since the fnatic "peak" incident I despise him.
2011-01-07 18:08:55
indeed.
2011-01-07 19:23:48
Same for me. :/
2011-01-07 20:39:04
I just hope that soon there will be some player from Brazil, because they are trollin' every post. :D
2011-01-07 18:19:40
lurppis @ top 3 imo
2011-01-07 18:25:52
ahaha sure !
2011-01-07 22:31:13
will see :P but i think its possible :P
2011-01-08 02:19:06
no it's not dude !
Lurppis never made more 10 frags in every matchs i watched
And the top20 is based on statistics :)
2011-01-08 12:16:24
I wonder, which place n0thing will get ...
2011-01-07 18:26:19
one of the biggest overated players this year. Yes he was good with coL 2005/2006 but now let me tell you that he don't have any chance against AWPers of big caliber like markeloff trace Delpan Savage starix karrigan SIXER solo FalleN.
2011-01-07 18:30:45
stats say he is the fourth best awper according to AWPKPR
2011-01-07 18:46:54
tell that to 2010 stats, ur 100% wrong.
2011-01-08 09:16:01
My favourite player <3
2011-01-07 18:35:58
best awp ever !
2011-01-07 18:41:32
Tgwri1s, (..)as we will bring you number 14 tomorrow. number 13*

Post edited 2011-01-07 19:01:25
2011-01-07 19:00:43
nice frags!
2011-01-07 19:06:55
no one makes 40 frags during a match :/

Post edited 2011-01-07 19:10:39
2011-01-07 19:10:19
People say he is overrated but the stats tell that he has been shining, so stfu before writing anything stupid.

Post edited 2011-01-07 19:31:26
2011-01-07 19:30:55
good awapeur
2011-01-07 19:38:47
well deserved! nice player :D
2011-01-07 19:50:52
eg placed 3rd at iem 4 hannover?O_O they were destroyed by fnatic on the gs o_o

Post edited 2011-01-07 19:52:15
2011-01-07 19:51:59
nice :-)
2011-01-07 20:01:28
good season for fRoD, good luck!
2011-01-07 20:05:30
super player!
2011-01-07 20:07:13
Ksharp > fr0d
2011-01-07 20:54:10
How can u put in 2010 frod at the 14th place and DSN at the 20th?
2011-01-07 20:55:19
I was wondering that myself but this is based on statistics..
2011-01-07 21:07:34
the stats don't lie, not to mention fRoD particularly dominated fnatic this year.
2011-01-07 23:01:54
Come on fRod get a haircut and bring back your blue LA cap from old days! Gonna be killin em!
2011-01-07 21:55:50
disagree, to me that Frodo isn't better than
"dsn, zeus, roman, face"
no is a bad player
but would have to be in the #20
2011-01-07 22:07:27
fRoD's the best!
2011-01-07 22:13:06
song for the -4 round ?:D

Go frod fav player xD
2011-01-07 22:22:22
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#240
BT (ft. M. Doughty) - Never Gonna Come Back Down
2011-01-07 23:30:25
:D 10x !!!!
2011-01-07 23:40:28
I don't know this player .. He is new ?
2011-01-07 22:49:25
n0thing or ave next
2011-01-07 23:11:32
Montaner is still the best awper in the world today i rekon if he is on fire, well deserved monty
2011-01-07 23:28:07
Cheater :(

Well I quess I is a good player. Gratz to him with the 14th place...
2011-01-07 23:58:12
cheater ? so if delpan appears its everything ok...
2011-01-08 01:18:55
Delpan? He dosn't cheat anymore? It is a long time since delpan was cheating.
2011-01-08 13:40:04
and ? so what frod did is worst ? cmon...
Fail of the org of the tournament, delpan was fail on him...
2011-01-08 17:48:12
I am not trying to defend Delpan at all. But hate all kind of cheat, I really don't care if you just cheated a little. Cheat is cheat and I am not able to have any respect for a player that have cheated in any way. If it was a bug mistake or something, fine. But if you cheat on purpose it is another thing...
2011-01-08 18:08:00
I think that what you call "cheat" of what frod did its non sense... He didn't cheat, the organization put a big screen with the POV of fnatic... If fnatic blame someone should blame the org... And its not the first time that's happens with fnatic... awkward... But im understand your point of view m8

Post edited 2011-01-08 19:50:37
2011-01-08 19:49:42
Yeah, the organisation made a mistake as well. I really don't understand why they would put the big screen there.

What he did wasnt anywhere near how bad it is to use cheats like wallhack/aimbot etc. Still, it is cheat and it is unfair they got away with it just because the organisation have decided that you have to report it a short time after the match. People actually have to spot the cheat before they can report it...
2011-01-08 20:13:23
+1
"he is there" on WEM:(
2011-01-08 04:43:51
FUCKING CHEATER!

taz next!
2011-01-08 00:55:08
all who know's frod he will memory him like CHEATER (ghosting vs fnatic) it was so awful , but he want win and money :D i can understand him , he was cheating one time ( or more i dont know :D) but he is the grait awp .. top 5 sniper's of the world ... but i think face > fRoD .. :D next [ask headshotPB(#233)]
2011-01-08 01:41:06
seriusly .. 12th should be sixer :P
2011-01-08 02:04:22
FROD, THE BEST AWP IN THE WORLD!
2011-01-08 02:05:11
-1
2011-01-08 04:45:19
cogu shaGuar Sunde Jungle vilden > fRoD
2011-01-08 04:46:11
Not best awp, but I love his shots! :)
2011-01-08 10:14:56
pro
2011-01-08 03:01:39
should be higher in my opinion
2011-01-08 03:08:24
I dont care.....
:/
fRoD said "he is there" on WEM:(
lol

Post edited 2011-01-08 04:42:37
2011-01-08 04:41:29
The Best AWPER so far !
2011-01-08 04:56:15
fapfap
2011-01-08 05:31:23
Awesome player since 05
2011-01-08 05:40:15
He looks like day9
2011-01-08 05:53:42
ceh9?
2011-01-08 10:45:33
niiiiice :) fRoD is best )
2011-01-08 06:35:39
+1
2011-01-08 08:47:20
one best awpER but no the BEST (sixer/markeloff)
2011-01-08 10:38:35
top1 markeloff
2011-01-08 11:53:12
fuckin fraud !!
2011-01-08 12:25:51
by: HBF
#285
fRoD definitly deserves no spot in this top 20.
When you're ghosting on this level of cs i think you shouldn't play at all. Which is a pity i think because he is a very good player.
2011-01-08 12:34:58
by: HBF
#286
Minet deserves a place as well for raging at the IEM last year! I believe it was Hannover, Germany
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQhvVdQCcNo
2011-01-08 12:39:47
hahaha :D
2011-01-08 13:11:48
n1 oldschool ) talking about the best i'd like to say ksharp'd the best if he'd continue his carrier up to 1.6
2011-01-08 13:49:11
ghoster :p
2011-01-08 15:02:30
should be better to change frod´s highlight to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyK4C9mMi4w
2011-01-08 16:49:50
nj
2011-01-08 16:52:06
LoL
2011-01-09 04:32:57
Doesn't even deserves to be in the Top20 for what he did..

Yeah don't come replying to me saying shit like "You would have done the same thing" at least have some respect and honor and play it legal.
2011-01-09 09:47:47

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