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Hungary have booked a place in the Clanbase NationsCup XIV group stage after getting a default win over Romania.
The two nations met each other on Sunday in the second qualifying round, with Romania claiming a 2-0 victory after winning de_nuke and de_train.
After the match, Hungary handed in a protest as two Romanian players did not have their respective Steam IDs entered in the GUIDS section, as rules state.
The Romanian duo had, however, their correct Steam IDs entered in their accounts, just in a different section.
According to the Clanbase's internal rulebook, the admin is required to validate the Steam IDs before the match starts.
Romania captain Dragos "KrieppeN" Karner told HLTV.org that, prior to the start of the encounter, his players asked the admin if everything was in place regarding their GUIDS, having received the green light to play the match in response.
Romania asked Hungary for the chance to replay the match, but after the latter refused to grant that request, they are out of NationsCup XIV.
Post edited 2011-01-26 04:36:59
i know there are rules, but there are exceptions, when a much worse team (Hungary) wins match because of some stupid rule.
"Romania asked Hungary for the chance to replay the match, but after the latter refused to grant that request, they are out of NationsCup XIV."
Team Hungary didn't want to replay the match, because they know , that they'll lose again...
So it was the only way to qualify to NC.
"Romania captain Dragos "KrieppeN" Karner told HLTV.org that, prior to the start of the encounter, his players asked the admin if everything was in place regarding their GUIDS, having received the green light to play the match in response."
So isn't it the admin fault ?
If this is the new way of winning the matches on cs scene... I don't want to be a part of it anymore...
They were in account , just in other section... So what's the big deal ?
The problem would be if they had used different steam ID's during the match.
btw d$t is from Hungary right?
doesn't surprise me...
oh and yeah, i get it, it's the player's fault. but this didn't change the fact that the best team won and nothing wrong was done. this was a fucking technicallity that made the better team unable to participate in the tournament.
It's time to say no to ClanBase events.
That's just plain stupid. How come an admin says it's ok to play the match with the IDs entered (in whatever section) and then the same admin(s) decide you have to lose that match 'cause of the thing they told you is ok?!
I can't image how pissed off I'd be if that happened to me... poor Romanians :/
ClanBase is absolutely a joke. Feel sorry for the teams who have been impaired by this awful organisation.
or else i see a short future for them..
To be honest, so much of this shit depends on who your clanbase admin is. Had cartman been the admin for that match, there's no way in hell that he would have let Romania lose like that.
Post edited 2011-01-26 08:56:50
IMO the admins are lame just like the cup itself :)
everything has an order in this world, and seems like god peek`d into the world of cs :d
anyway, clanbase suxx. 4sure
Post edited 2011-01-26 09:29:09
ClanBase is clearly a joke, Romania was just better on two maps.
We do not deserve to go through in such a way, shame our nt cannot see this.
Post edited 2011-01-26 09:50:03
TeG knew that they would never, ever beat FX, so they just ignored FX's match requests to gain a defwin...
Blame ur players/captain/admin, not .hu
Romania 1:1 LIFE
Post edited 2011-01-26 10:42:52
Oh wait there's no prize money, this is supposed to be a "for fun" or "for practice" tournament. That's even more shameful.
why so serious?
Post edited 2011-01-26 11:36:07
Romania is better then Hungary for sure , but nowhere near the top teams of Europe.
+1 to quicksand , 16;13 (much better -_-')
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Fx will keep fightning for top 3 in every major competition , while TeG struggle in its own mediocrity.
Its a fact !
Post edited 2011-01-26 16:19:09
THIS IS HUNGARY ! after that I hate`em so much
Hungary fair-play 0 !
...but than again, I guess that's just called: KARMA
That's a joke! Why would you write something like this, don't get it?
It clearly says that "Every player must register their GUID on the GUID page before they play any matches." and the penalty for not doing so is a red card and a forfeit (for each player and Romania had 2).
But I'm extremely sad that Romania lost this way.
Yes, you are absolutely right. Although it's so unfair move, but c'est la vie. TeG did the same thing to Fx, so it's only KARMA.
btw. TeG was really better on nuke. On train... donno. They moved better as a team, while our team just gave some fake infos and ran "higgledy-piggledy". :D
And the players also said that they have no time in the next few days for a rematch. :S
Ah, and don't forget the Polish-Hungarian friendship! :DDD
Post edited 2011-01-26 13:01:00
.hu Team Captain asked all the players what they want to do. First they sad we wont protest. But after they saw these disgusting comments written by romanians, they decided to get the forfeit with no rematch.
So say thank u for yourselfs haters and stop writing stupid things. Next time read the rules more carefully instead of blaming others.
ps: why hltv.org admins dont give banns to those romanians writing disgusting, outrageous and insulting comments???
The hungarians protested against ro steam ID-s, but ro had the correct steam ID-s
So can someone explain what happend?
Post edited 2011-01-26 14:25:50
This sounds to me that somebody didn`t do their job properly.
Check my comment #144 and check the rules yourself, it's very simple. And also, what helius wrote is completely right, and he is the captain for his own country, and it didn't happen to them, did it?
First of all, if the CB rulebook states, that someone who fails to enter recquired data like this, gets a red card, than they should get a red card, otherwise the rulebook is completely pointless. Moreover the admins clearly doesnt like to take responsibility for their rullings, so they make the Hungarian NT scapegoats by offering an alternate opportunity to the Romanians, a rematch, so it seems like it's our fault again...
I don't say that we deserved to go through, because it's not true, but it's a fact, that Romanians failed to follow the rules, for which in fact are punished way too much. CB should modify the punishment of minor mistakes like this to a "rematch" from "DQ", and then there wouldn't be any upset and flaming like this in the future.
And yeah, we can say that the Hungarians are unfair, but to be honest, we just followed the rulebook. Yes, we lost that qualification match, and the Romanians were better, so they SHOULD be in the group stage, but it's a little bit harsh, that everyone is blaming the Hungarian NT, and noone is speaking about the rulebook, or the Romanians, who made the mistakes.
It was a little bit unfair, but 100% legal and valid, and lets be honest, non of the teams have any chance to advance through from the group stage, so there's no point to whine around...
Post edited 2011-01-26 13:48:19
so that there won't be any stupid posts from stupid people
hungary in the final gogo
and they broke the rules anyway , hungary made good decision ... gl
Post edited 2011-01-26 14:43:02
"CB didn't ask for a match to be replayed, because they couldn't give a rematch if the rules say forfeit."
Anyway, I don't think that Romania should have been in the qualification stage at all. There are clearly inferior teams invited to the group stage already. So I guess it's just bad luck, and lack of attention from your NT.
romanian team diserved it , and they're tards..
This admin should say them to check it by themself with help of rulebook if he didnt want to check it by himself.