Iron Will lose trio
By: MIRAA
Time: 2011-03-12 23:34
Game: Counter-Strike 1.6

Iron Will boss Anton "Sneg" Cherepennikov has told coverage.gamesworld.ru that the team have lost three players.

The Russian side were last seen in the market just one month ago, capturing Viktor "Sally" Filimonchenko and Boris "Snoop" Podvalshikov as they hoped to kick start their season.

However, the former Virtus.pro duo have been let go by Iron Will after reportedly failing to impress during their one-month spell with the team. Their contracts with IW expired on the first day of March and the organisation has decided not to extend their deals.

During their time with Iron Will, they attended ASUS Winter, where the team finished runners-up to Moscow Five, and it seems that not clinching the title has made IW undergo changes yet again.


Sally and Snoop out of IW

Meanwhile, Alan "Fly" Temirov, who has been with Iron Will since the creation of the team in September, has decided to look for pastures new for unknown reasons and is currently without a home.

Iron Will have already reacted to this loss by picking up Aleksey "HEL1" Novikov, who had been a free agent since the disbandment of the mighty44 project.

The Russian team will make their first appearance with the new line-up at the Intel Challenge Super Cup 7 finals, where they will take on the likes of Na´Vi and Frag eXecutors.

Iron Will now have:

Johan "F_1N" Kochugov
Alexey "LeX" Kolesnikov
Aleksey "HEL1" Novikov

Tags: F_1N, LeX, HEL1, Iron Will, Fly, Snoop, Sally

by: posS
#1
SAD :(
2011-03-12 23:35:37
by: tHm - <3 tHm
#2
sad
2011-03-12 23:35:38
yea, but don't be
you'll get first post next time...
2011-03-13 10:58:30
hahahahahah :D
2011-03-13 12:27:03
haha acually i wasent trying to get it, even though i see i was pretty close :b
2011-03-13 13:07:19
LOL. :)
2011-03-13 18:07:04
:DD
2011-03-13 19:57:00
haha n
2011-03-13 23:18:10
wow sad
2011-03-12 23:35:49
omg :O
2011-03-12 23:36:15
too sad :/
2011-03-12 23:36:23
again
2011-03-12 23:36:40
LeX -> Moscow Five
2011-03-12 23:36:49
I think good idea
2011-03-13 11:17:34
+1
2011-03-13 12:57:44
he is not that kind of player who will sign someone and then go to other team
2011-03-13 18:44:34
saaad but they were loosers
2011-03-12 23:37:16
+MNR
+hacker
2011-03-12 23:37:19
+1
2011-03-12 23:37:42
don't break USSR!
2011-03-12 23:42:03
totally agree with you! LeX to M5. USSR must stay in the same line-up
2011-03-12 23:49:51
LeX to M5 - it would be great. )
2011-03-12 23:54:12
lex to m5 - n1ce;
lex to Ussr - zaebis
2011-03-13 06:12:04
it would be bad. Ed1k and LeX - gameleaders. 2 gameleaders in team? lol. xek dabest =(
2011-03-13 09:10:44
what is the problem ?
RobbaN when he became the captain was not a problem to play with two people who may be leading in-game.
2011-03-13 12:23:59
The problem is that Ed1k is better than Lex, as captain for M5. But Lex will not be able to play as a simple player. If Lex is playing, he is gameleader. No options.
2011-03-13 19:41:09
hahahaha, why he can't play as a simple player ?
he can only play if he's leading in-game ?
omg.
2011-03-13 20:50:56
the reason is his temperament. have you seen him play? I'm not saying that he could not play like a normal player, but skills of each player must be correctly used.
2011-03-14 04:52:40
and the original lineup of IW LeX wasn't even the IGL for 2-3 months and they did well, so i think he could take the awp or rifle role, even though he'd be the best awper

with

LeX (IGL/impact player/primary awper

F1_n (role player/Rifles)

HEL1/Dosia (role player/Rifles)

mNr (impact player/Rifles)

h4cker(impact player/Rifles/Secondary awp)

no one else on this team with the exception of a couple (F1_N and HEL1) have the EXP that LeX does, and LeX is the best player in Russia imo, alot of people would say Dosia is, and i agree Dosia is a beast, but i think it is Lex and than Dosia are the two best EASILY in Russia, just like f0rest is the best in SWEDEN followed by of course gtr..

so if this Dreamteam of Russia happened with the exception Dosia, this lineup could compete internationally

but i would like to see

Fox (primary awper, but LeX is still better with the green)

Dosia (rifles/impact player)

LeX (LeX rifles/secondary awp/IGL)

F1_N (rifles/impact player)

mNr/h4cker/HEL1 (rifles)

if Dosia won't leave his team and as long as they could get Fox and Dosia to join with LeX and co. would be AMAZING

gl guys, pick they right player!!!

both could compete internationally imo

if Russia and France want to win an international tournament they need to combine forces and make a super team like the Ukrainians, they would do very well

Post edited 2011-03-14 15:55:26
2011-03-14 15:45:18
LeX will never play with Hooch :)
2011-03-13 08:11:19
hooch is not playing in M5, so what's the problem?
2011-03-13 08:43:44
mnr & xek is better option maybe :)
2011-03-13 03:13:07
Unexpected but gl HEL1
2011-03-12 23:37:44
well, the best players are still there. :)
2011-03-12 23:38:19
lol LeX absolutly the best.
2011-03-13 02:06:03
good
2011-03-12 23:38:26
they should mix up with m5 and make a russian superstar team same goes for France :P

Post edited 2011-03-12 23:39:12
2011-03-12 23:38:50
m5 have a russian superstar team and they are completely a fail
2011-03-12 23:41:44
m5 isn't a russian "superstar" team...
I guess a superstar team would be something like this: F_1N dosia fox ed1k LeX/mNR/hacker

Post edited 2011-03-12 23:50:20
2011-03-12 23:42:25
exactly.
2011-03-13 00:28:44
hooch evil edik hacker dosia
2011-03-13 08:52:28
Sad! :<
2011-03-12 23:39:05
Russian cs <3
2011-03-12 23:39:17
me2
2011-03-12 23:58:03
me2
2011-03-13 01:08:56
+hooch ffs

settle your differences and pwn some ass please!!!
2011-03-12 23:40:48
Lex only to Moscow Five! Otherwise, I do not see it!
2011-03-12 23:40:52
what a fuck
2011-03-12 23:40:54
+xek&MNR

Post edited 2011-03-12 23:42:25
2011-03-12 23:42:09
ffs, stupid russians.

Fly to M5?
2011-03-12 23:42:16
by: frsx
#85
what you have against russians? it's only game and team changes, maybe u 2 stupid?
2011-03-13 00:30:11
wow, someone was offended.

no, i dont have anything against russians in general. but the cs1.6 scene is somewhat of a joke. instead of keeping their lineups together they switch players every time they dont win an event, and sometimes even when they win. it's not the way to go if you want to achieve success.
2011-03-13 01:25:01
Teams have their own reasons to change players. Sometimes you forced to do this. What if players can't play together, someone decided to leave, retired etc?

4 players from m5 don't want to play with xek, that's why he was kicked. It's stupid, but they have to change him.
It was Fly decision to leave IW. Sally and Snoop were on trial.

btw, PG changed line-up 3 times in last 3 months, but i don't write "stupid finnish" or smth. Don't draw conclusions about nations from cs.
2011-03-13 02:17:30
+1

Post edited 2011-03-13 08:37:37
2011-03-13 08:37:19
have i said anything about powergaming? no i have not. im not even from finland so dont make random assumptions. so you really think that the method the russian teams are using are working? if so, why isnt any russian team near the international level?

look at FX and Na´Vi, two teams who were in the IEM global finals and both have maintained the same lineups for over a year. and i know for a fact that there's been a lot of internal conflicts in Na´Vi, but still they stay together because they know that it pays off.

im not saying that you ALWAYS should stick together. but in 4 out of 5 times that is most likely the best decision. and from my personal point of view, this seems to be the problem in russia. you got a lot of talent and potential in the scene, but just not the patience required to keep a lineup together even if things are going bad.

all teams struggle further or later. what differs the good teams from the great teams is the way they work through it and solve the problems instead of feeling forced to switch a player just to, in the end, come to the conclusion that it actually did not affect your team postively at all. instead you just set back your team another month (progress-wise) from reaching your full potential.

Post edited 2011-03-13 12:42:31
2011-03-13 12:33:10
well about powergaming, he just made a comparison with a finnish team, they did the same stuff in which you accused the russian CS teams and as he already said, the lineup changes are sometimes needed, no matter what. I don't think they did that "just4fun"


F.e example lets take SK.. i think there's no explanation needed. Or mTw, 1 year ago, when they replaced Sunde. Nobody didn't even think that the replacement wast NEEDED(our cs scene), but they did it anyway(the team).

Idk about FX, but Na'Vi didn't even have conflicts as such inside the team. It's a shame you don't understand russian, then you would see in which friendly atmosphere they are, how they live together etc. Maybe you've just heard an interview from ceh9, where he said that they argued a lot before the IEM, but that's normal and i would not say that that are conflicts.

P.S. why do you have a finnish flag, if you're not from finland?

2011-03-13 14:06:20
yes, but the comparision is irrelevant since it got nothing to do with russian cs. i never said that power gamings changes (or any other finnish team) were smart or not (in my original comment)

i dont have anything against player changes, of course they are needed from time to time. people change, motivation change etc.

what i meant, though, was that i think the russian mentality needs to change if they'll ever have a team that are able to compete with the best teams in the world. abandoning a lineup after just a month, especially if you actually finished 2nd on an event, looks bad from an outsiders point of view.

my point is that this isnt the first time it happened in russian cs history and it certainly wont be the last. im not saying other countries doesnt do stupid changes as well, because they do indeed, but i think russia is one of of the countries which does it most frequently instead of getting a five man roster together with the attitude that they ARE going to get it to work, or at least give it more than a month or two.

Post edited 2011-03-13 14:27:50
2011-03-13 14:27:07
best finland team allready pwned by russian 17 y/o guys @ asus winter, so fail dude.
2011-03-13 02:32:27
best finnish team is OK and they didnt attend to that tournament

sorry, good try
2011-03-13 02:54:03
another russian kiddo who was offended i guess. im not from finland. powergaming played indeed terrible, but what does that have to do with anything? dont make random assumptions based on someones flag before their nick.
2011-03-13 12:35:37
Name: Antti Pesonen

Epic fail =)
2011-03-13 17:59:06
read my profile? it clearly says: i'm not finnish and i certainly dont live in espoo. same thing goes for the name, it's not my real name, but who gives a fuck? it's still not relevant in the discussion.
2011-03-13 19:06:10
fail #2
2011-03-14 03:44:49
haha. you are not worth discussing with, grow up mate =)
2011-03-14 11:45:33
+ xek
2011-03-12 23:42:18
lose trio*

Post edited 2011-03-12 23:53:30
2011-03-12 23:43:42
trio
2011-03-12 23:46:09
trio*
2011-03-12 23:53:46
again, changes starting sick of it
2011-03-12 23:43:43
russians..
2011-03-12 23:44:07
M5:
-XEK
-ROMJKE
-FOX (?)
+ LEX
+ MNR
+ hacker (?)
2011-03-12 23:46:00
if Fox leaves I think Dosia will too
2011-03-12 23:51:25
I know, it was just a thought about best russian possible team...

however fox was bad only in the last tournament, maybe he will be more consistent
2011-03-12 23:58:30
LeX is looser. all teams were loosers who had LeX...

2011-03-12 23:46:20
looser that you, and LeX top3 awp in Russia
2011-03-13 00:59:23
in russia, and not in a world.
2011-03-13 01:09:53
will see)
2011-03-13 02:27:08
LeX > all ur country counter-strike by far. And this "looser" was in the step by contract with SK gaming some years ago. And now he comes from inactive and still he is best in Russia. Just shame for u, that u call this guy "Looser". And im pretty shure that u are like 15 years old, and don't even seen LeX in VP in his best time's.
2011-03-13 02:36:35
hahahah I laught a lot after reading this..
2011-03-13 09:52:10
lol
2011-03-13 18:20:29
you're the looser here
2011-03-13 19:52:32
edik Dosia Fox LeX mNR/hacker
2011-03-12 23:46:33
Viktor F. was playing so good in the last months, gl for him
2011-03-12 23:46:33
bad... Virtus.pro :s LeX the best=))))
Aleksey K.
Johan K.
Aleksey N.
???????
???????

+ diNGo?! =))))
+ Dio ?! =))))
2011-03-12 23:50:04
1. +groove +hooch

2. Rename: Virtus.Pro

3. ????

4. Profit.
2011-03-12 23:50:40
hooch and LeX? Are you fucking kidding us? :D
2011-03-12 23:51:57
mistake)
sry

Post edited 2011-03-13 00:14:03
2011-03-13 00:13:38
lex must be a real faggot if ppl are just being dropped after a month, each month. N many others simply leaving, so pathetic
2011-03-12 23:51:13
the organization dropped 'em,not LeX by himself.
2011-03-13 00:07:29
noooooooooo !!!
2011-03-12 23:54:09
Konstantin P.
Dmitry B.

=))))))
2011-03-12 23:54:57
by: fzZ
#52
-_-
2011-03-12 23:55:00
snoop was good!
2011-03-12 23:56:32
sally is better
2011-03-13 00:09:03
snoop was noob
2011-03-13 00:14:33
really sad
2011-03-12 23:57:52
Iron Will

+ xek
+ kibaken
2011-03-12 23:58:41
who is kibaken? :D
2011-03-13 10:11:40
he showed very good skills on nations cup and there were some videos on HLTV with him, if i am not mistaken
2011-03-13 10:25:20
sad...
2011-03-12 23:59:07
by: Erty
#62
very sad :(
2011-03-13 00:02:15
:'(
2011-03-13 00:03:46
fly > m5?
2011-03-13 00:08:21
"pastures new" or new pastures?
2011-03-13 00:08:28
Both are correct.
2011-03-13 00:39:52
seriously? i've never seen it like that.. :s
2011-03-13 01:00:41
Yeah its British English. New Pastures is American/Australian English.
2011-03-13 01:21:16
It's off topic, but in my opinion they should do a superstar team, if they want international success. That should also do in France. But it's not necessary it will work. GL to all, hope for the best. imo.;)
2011-03-13 00:09:22
yeah i want to see sixer and majer in a better team :/
2011-03-13 00:16:54
Lex > meat5 !!
2011-03-13 00:11:45
Alexey "LeX" Kolesnikov
Aleksey "HEL1" Novikov

o_O wtf?
2011-03-13 00:14:00
different names :D
2011-03-13 00:15:01
same
2011-03-13 14:01:16
LEX GO HOME PLZ!
2011-03-13 00:18:59
+mNR
+Hacker

GREAT TEAM!
2011-03-13 00:19:21
Moscow5 with new lineup

Dosia
Fox
LeX
ED1K
F1_N
2011-03-13 00:22:47
1+

best lineup i see so far for Russia
2011-03-13 00:53:11
by: b1b1
#79
Snoop and Sally were on trial and they were not kicked, they just did not recive new contracts.
Organisation is still thinking about Snoop and no information about last player.

Post edited 2011-03-13 00:25:03
2011-03-13 00:23:22
shits
whats happening?
pick xek pleaseeeeeeeee :))))) and AdreN <3
2011-03-13 00:24:01
snoop was their best player at asus. If people saw the final against m5 the few rounds they got were with great clutches and open frags from him.
Now people who saw one sally clip from 100years ago shut up please, he sucks... his rifles suck ass and he's awp is only afective against low teams. He's not the same or cs is just to evolved for him to stay at the top like back in the day.

+dosia and fox would be great.
Suposing that iw is beeing supported by Arbalet.
2011-03-13 00:25:03
LeX if u are reading this, please don't destroy Iron Will and search for new players please ! :D
2011-03-13 00:27:18
-______-
2011-03-13 00:29:45
IW (ICSC) : lex hel1 f1n snoop sneg
2011-03-13 00:30:49
Any roomers about what is going to happen in russia?

Who will be the 5th in m5 and what ppl will join iron will?
2011-03-13 00:33:18
IW: +kibaken/over/xek
M5: +Fly
2011-03-13 00:42:24
LeX cmon, you know you are in m5 level, just do the switch... we trust you :p

2011-03-13 00:45:22
bad :/
2011-03-13 00:49:27
+Fedor Vladimirovich Emelianenko
+Nikolaj Walujew :)
2011-03-13 00:49:34
Beast Line up :D
2011-03-13 02:57:26
That will work only on lan.
2011-03-13 09:51:29
Walujew meat
2011-03-13 11:53:49
hacker/MNR/evil/hally/kibaken/xek/Snoop...

just read the rumour that M5 are willing to propose evil to join, but evil is rejecting the offer... (at least he is saying that to USSR management)


anyway it is possible to find good chemistry combination from:

Ed1k, Lex, hooch, MNR, Dosia, Fox, hacker, evil, kibaken.... (Fly/Snoop/HEL1/F1N/ROMJKE/hally/xek)

Post edited 2011-03-13 00:51:03
2011-03-13 00:50:44
by: mah9
#96
too bad =[
2011-03-13 00:52:18
Dosia
Fox
LeX
ed1k
ROMJkE

the best team from russia
2011-03-13 00:58:41
-Fox
+hacker
2011-03-13 01:04:28
I don't get it, out of all these players, Sally impressed me like the most.
2011-03-13 01:01:11
sally and snoop should stay.
LeX F_1N HEL1 Snoop Sally
good lu, exactly old VP. They just need some time.
2011-03-13 01:18:49
M5 +LeX !!!
2011-03-13 01:26:07
Snoop was good, Fly was crap and Sally was soso
2011-03-13 01:26:10
nooot :s
2011-03-13 01:48:48
Snoop should stay, stupid decision
2011-03-13 02:25:40
+ xek
2011-03-13 02:25:54
just i can't understand logic of this move. They bring in old players from inactive ( sally and snoop ), play together like 1 month, now they kick them out, and add another old player, who was inactive too. for what the hell ? i think better desicion is like :
-fly
+HEL1
And lineup :
F_1N, LeX, Snoop, Sally, HEL1.
2011-03-13 02:42:41
+1
2011-03-13 03:17:37
sadness +kibaken +xek

Post edited 2011-03-13 02:54:09
2011-03-13 02:53:22
sad :'(
2011-03-13 02:59:22
hel1 and f1n in one team, its rly nice. lex .-.
2011-03-13 03:17:24
Aleksey K. <LeX> power =)))))))
2011-03-13 03:30:51
For the better...
2011-03-13 04:01:26
iron will xek
2011-03-13 05:31:16
Lex Fin XEk Heli TBA
2011-03-13 06:41:31
bad
2011-03-13 07:16:21
+ xek


Post edited 2011-03-13 07:37:32
2011-03-13 07:37:08
Dosia
ed1k
LeX
ROMJkE
Fox


2011-03-13 07:55:40
Russian counter-strike is so senseless and merciless...
2011-03-13 07:56:28
totally agree.
2011-03-13 09:49:47
very good news.

+kibaken
+fierce
2011-03-13 08:31:20
i think moscow five add fly
2011-03-13 08:41:32
hope Sally and Snoop stay, otherwise add kibaken and h4cker/hally!
2011-03-13 08:44:09
fierce looser

+konstantin p.
+dmitry b.
2011-03-13 09:01:56
Virtus.pro

Aleksey K.
Johan K.
Aleksey N.
Viktor F.
Boris P.
2011-03-13 09:04:32
time 4 USSR :D
2011-03-13 09:08:43
)))
2011-03-13 09:11:45
:\

sad, very sad


+kibaken, + vofkin
2011-03-13 09:30:20
noooooo :( sad :´(
2011-03-13 09:39:19
looks like another series of soap opera. i'm tired of cheering for them.
2011-03-13 09:48:10
+xek ;
2011-03-13 09:52:43
sad :S
2011-03-13 10:07:52
...
2011-03-13 10:19:25
ussr are strong and grows up so dont break that line up
2011-03-13 10:23:48
sad
2011-03-13 10:41:28
+stalin + lenin
2011-03-13 10:48:47
so funny
...
2011-03-13 10:50:25
Say what? They are nice madfraggers.
2011-03-13 10:58:36
it was funny :D
2011-03-13 11:15:22
that was cruel, but funny as hell ;D
2011-03-13 11:28:55
:DDDDDDDDDDD
2011-03-13 18:31:24
HAHHAHAHAHAHA
2011-03-13 16:18:35
HAHAHAHAHAHAH :DDDDDDDDD
2011-03-13 18:31:00
ns...+hooch
2011-03-13 10:51:34
fail
2011-03-13 11:05:13
They failed to impress? That's such bullshit imo.
2011-03-13 11:05:57
In my opinion the best Russian team>>>
1.Dosia
2.ed1K
3.Lex
4.xek
5.Romjke
Brothers fall when you do not know what will and what we Serbs have to do :::D
2011-03-13 11:18:20
so sad,gl in the future guys ;(
2011-03-13 11:30:54
+dober 70%
2011-03-13 11:33:37
Aleksey N. O_O
2011-03-13 11:39:08
(
2011-03-13 11:42:49
gl HEL1
2011-03-13 11:51:21
xek and Dober/h4cker plz
2011-03-13 11:55:17
no more virtus : ((
2011-03-13 12:04:03
-virtus.pro
2011-03-13 12:06:52
:s
2011-03-13 12:08:17
GOOD!!! they will get better players in and will be top1 in russia
2011-03-13 12:25:07
they lose duo?
2011-03-13 12:28:23
no, lose trio

after + HEL1
2011-03-13 12:38:10
sad :(
2011-03-13 12:28:39
+hally +dober
2011-03-13 12:49:35
So why the hell they invited oldschools (Snoop and Sally) in the first place? What they were thinking? Pretty stupid move imo..
2011-03-13 13:02:44
LeX
HEL1
F_1N
xek
+1

IW > M5
2011-03-13 13:12:31
LooooL....
2011-03-13 13:59:37
what do you mean LOOOOOOL shut up
2011-03-13 14:12:46
they will add Xenitron & xek, GG_AWP
2011-03-13 13:35:45
xenitron hahaha )
2011-03-13 15:39:55
Snoop in team infa 85%=)
2011-03-13 13:51:50
The truth is, they weren't kicked due to their performance, it's just that their contracts have expired.
So
LeX
F_1N
HEL1
Snoop
Sally

is likely to be the line-up for IW.
2011-03-13 13:54:42
15 players at russian scene, and still shuffling lineups, lol
2011-03-13 13:56:31
Lesha gl!S vozvrasheniem!
2011-03-13 13:58:18
RUSSIAN CS - $(*@!#($
2011-03-13 14:16:35
Don't think h4cker will leave USSR :)
xek+x to Iron
AdreN to M5
2011-03-13 14:28:16
AdreN in China.
2011-03-13 15:41:32
LOL! LOL!LOL!LOLOLOLOLOLO!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA CRAZY BOYS!
2011-03-13 15:24:05
LeX
HEL1
F_1N
xek
and maybe h4cker , good line-up imo.
2011-03-13 15:41:08
+dober no team :D
2011-03-13 16:00:20
lexxx...picked xekzor
lexxx...picked owner
:-D
team iron will still showed no such results as virtus.pro therefore still too early to make rename
2011-03-13 16:04:06
they picked xek? provide plz with link on this news
2011-03-13 16:53:08
they didn't yet
2011-03-13 17:22:17
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
2011-03-13 16:55:39
I want xek to be in IW -.-
2011-03-13 18:01:39
Xek to IW or LEX to M5
2011-03-13 21:03:07
hahaha
2011-03-13 21:03:50
sad
2011-03-13 21:57:32
hooch and xek maybe?
2011-03-14 00:28:22
Vse gonyat wnyagy ja nemogy ahahahhahahahahahaha IW Bydyt champions atvichaio:)
2011-03-14 06:58:06
very sad but Iron Will play ICSC 7 or no ?
2011-03-14 10:54:09
it's a pity! (((
2011-03-14 13:01:10
yes, they should play in the IC7 Finals 19-20 of March
2011-03-14 13:04:51
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
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2011-03-14 17:00:54
+ boris p
+ viktor f

you have no choice! it's stupid not to pick them.
2011-03-14 13:43:49
xek =)))))) new team :D

+groove
+kane

=))))))
2011-03-14 18:20:34
I saw on cyberfight, that they still in the team.
2011-03-15 15:43:22
Virtus.pro back. they will play in ICS with lineup.

Aleksey K.
Johan K.
Boris P.
Aleksey N.
Viktor F.
2011-03-15 20:22:44
Virtus.pro :X GL
2011-03-16 04:45:36
gl.....
2011-03-16 12:10:54
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