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WinFakt have knocked out fnatic in the e-Stars Seoul 2011 and will now advance to play Natus Vincere on de_inferno.
WinFakt started as counter-terrorists and quickly opened up a 10-5 lead at the half way mark of the match. Some big rounds by Kimmo "BASiC" Fagerholm gave WinFakt the edge they needed to defeat fnatic. In the second half WinFakt took the pistol round and cruised through the remaining rounds to win 16-9.
WinFakt will now play Natus Vincere, in a match that is scheduled to start very soon.
WinFakt good team, just see if they buckle in the late stages. :p
kind of amusing
edit: and i agree, imo it looks ridiculous
Post edited 2011-08-20 08:40:32
I remember wearing a Volcom hat too, when I was skating back in the days
Post edited 2011-08-20 16:34:30
Rappers are known for these hats :)
NY and DC hats are often used as mainstream "pop" clothing.
I've never seen a Volcom hat used as such... maybe I'm just getting too old!
I see alot of young teens running around in sport outfits, without ever actually practiced a sport.
It's kinda sad really...
Post edited 2011-08-20 20:07:46
I'm not sure why I think that, but I do. So there.
:D :D :D
Fnatic.MSI Gux (fragger)
Fnatic.MSI Moddii (fragger)
Fnatic.MSI Niko (awp)
Fnatic.MSI zet (fragger)
would be something eh? :)
Im tired of the loosing streak, they have to do something. Fans and the orginanisation is expecting so much more.
"we will get back stronger" yea when?2012? this is not the fnatic i loved some years ago.
Post edited 2011-08-20 08:24:18
so i think that would give the team more than xizt perfomance.
Teams like fnatic, Na'Vi an such are so much better in a bo3 match... It's a totally different ball game.
Might be something with the chemistry. Maybe they just don't fit well together currently.
Post edited 2011-08-20 08:28:58
When fnatic was trying to react on the game, WinFakt didn't lose their minds and focused on their tactics to take the game without problems!
GL WinFakt against Na'Vi
pita much more stable and intelligent than Xizt
Pita isn't IGL
Carn shouldn't retire. He had a lot of experience.
AND THE MOST SWEET THING > TO ALL FARUK HATERS WHICH SIX MONTH AGO SCREAMIN ABOUT HOW BAD HE IS : GO AWAY PRAYIN FOR YOU FOREST,BITCHES!
some stupid rounds in a row > here we go.
Faruk and Rasmus again and again carrying this team from bottom but this wasn't enough.
Fnatic doesn't need in changes
Also de_mirage isn't best map at all for fnatic.
And ofc GREAT PLAYED by WinFakt, gg guys.
Wish good luck to fnatic @ next events, still believin!
Post edited 2011-08-20 08:44:44
When Delpan was playing for fnatic, still they won one tournament and still were strong at least, give a good fight to SK, NaVi, mTw, FX etc, but now, they can't even win against mid level teams like WinFakt, TCM etc. Not saying, that those teams are bad, but the top4 would win against them, in a heartbeat.
He said himself, that they needed a madfragger, like manne and yet, manne didn't deliver, at his first serious tournament in a professional team, he released him. Obviously cArn was wrong, he needed to give him more time..
And now with pita, they haven't won anything and they aren't even a threat anymore. The thing is that pita, Gux and Xizt are amazing players and they can win matches by themselves and pita actually progressed a lot. I actually think, that the problem is with dsn.
The irony is that, when Delpan was in fnatic, they still were a strong team and Delpan could hit those awp shots and when he joined SK, dsn needed to awp again and he hasn't been doing well with the awp for a long time. Even pita started awping on train at least. Come on, pita isn't an awp player, he can use it from time to time, but he isn't an awper. Fnatic definitely needs to cut dsn and get a good awp player, because pita, Xizt, Gux are good enough to win titles. And there is no point to cut cArn, because, they won't find a better IGL than him. Maybe threat, but he won't leave Lions I think.
And people who are bitching about the bo1 system. Obviously, it's not so good, but saying that fnatic or like some other team who shoulda have won, but they lost, because it was bo1, it's stupid. Doesn't matter. WinFakt needed to win one map to go further and same goes for fnatic...
And it's kinda embarrassing for fnatic, that they lost to SK 10 million times and they haven't even got close to beating them. Some time back, it always was like an El Classico and now it's just a random match, where SK are demolishing them, pretty easily..
Post edited 2011-08-20 08:54:30
I'm pretty sure that they lack a really good awper and I agree with that point. dsn is a good awp player, but since he played so much with rifles I think he became a secondary awp player.
Cannot agree about pita. He was a secondary awp in mym and primary in Rage.
I think it is a matter of atmosphere in the team and raw skill. f0rest was a key player in the team. They need someone like him.
dsn was a good player and in the first half of the year he was so damn good!!! If you don't agree watch iem europe and other tournaments.That is a problem! fnatic can't win when dsn is 2nd best player in the team(yeah 2nd, sorry but xizt wasn't consistent and if you want to give me some youtube links of his frags I highly recommend you to watch matches). It was all about skill.
Now about atmosphere.The team had a great shock when they lost iol, wcg sweden and dreamhack so badly. carn said that they needed pita to shout and cheer up players. But since they were so early as you said demolished it really presses them. IMO that is the problem.
I think dsn should stay
The biggest and the worst is to change dsn. Why the worst because he is playing in fnatic for such a long time that he became a symbol of the team. Besides i'm pretty sure if he leaves carn will leave as well.
Another way is to change pita and find a monsterous awp player.
Another way is to rebuy f0rest and Delpan )
I sometimes wonder what fnatic would have been like if Sam changed carn and dsn and added robban and allen? )
fnatic has a huge history behind them, and have won some major tournaments.
WinFakt on the other hand, formed from a pug just recently and barely got enough money to get to the event.
Na`Vi [16:7] mTw.dk DH Summer 11 CS
Na`Vi [2:1] mTw.dk IEM5 World
Na`Vi [2:0] mTw.dk DH Winter 2010
Na`Vi [2:1] mTw.dk WCG10:CS
Na`Vi [2:0] mTw.dk Arbalet Dallas
Na`Vi [2:1] mTw.dk ESWC CS 2010
Na`Vi [2:0] mTw.dk Arbalet EU II
Na`Vi [27:3] mTw.dk Arbalet EU II
Na`Vi [17:13] mTw.dk EM IV Fin
Fnatic.MSI Xizt (fragger)
Fnatic.MSI Pita (fragger)
Fnatic.MSI BARBARR (awper)
Fnatic.MSI Dsn (fragger)
For me, the lineup would be:
gux (should always stay > fragger)
friis / trace (awp)
pita (fragger > more consistent than xizt at the momment)
Again, this wouldn't happen ...
Post edited 2011-08-20 10:55:31
fnatic.keiz (fragger or second awper)
low form fnatic (carn 5 position ratio)
Post edited 2011-08-20 12:37:41
They were stupid in releasing f0rest and GTR in the first place.
IMO SK currently are unstoppable, and no offence, but fnatic need like 1-2 years to reach where SK are right now.
Back then people though that he was the most important player in fnatic as IGL, but now its proved otherwise. If he would understood to quit cs, when f0rest, GTR and GuX didnt want to play anymore with him and dsn, he would be remembered now as legendary player, who could make any team shine, but now he will be remembered as bad player and reason for downfall of fnatic.
Sad but true: f0rest and GTR made fnatic so good and everyone can pretty much see that carn doesnt have enough talent to reach nowadays top cs level (thats why f0rest, gtr and gux left fnatic back in days)
they need to make some new tactics and one thing that they can do for sure ^^
Post edited 2011-08-20 18:11:46