Team ranking: August 2011
By: reakq
Time: 2011-09-12 19:15
Game: Counter-Strike 1.6

HLTV.org is proud to present to you a feature that has been missing in the scene for far too long - Team ranking. In the first edition we will present to you the ranking from the end of August.

Team rankings haven't been taken seriously in the scene for several years now, so we finally decided to put a stop to that. In order to make the feature as credible as possible, many factors need to be considered, so for this job HLTV.org brought in Etienne "reakq" J. who has been working on such very detailed ranking for several months, making his name by displaying his work in our blog section.

The purpose of this ranking will be to, as objectively as possible, rank the teams based on their results and achievements in international tournaments. It's purpose is not to claim that Team A is better than Team B, but to help everyone keep track of the form of top teams and their overall success.

First of all, with this being a new feature, I will explain how it was made.

Initially, each event is given a level from 1-9 based on the following three factors: how well known the event is, the variety of countries represented and the number of top teams in attendance.

Points for each team in each event are then calculated, where a team can win or lose points based on the following factors:

  • team's final placing at the event
  • winning or drawing a match
  • bonus points for defeating a higher ranked opponent (inversely, the higher ranked team will lose points)
  • bonus points for round difference

All of these factors give a different amount of points based on the level of the event. For example, getting a top3 placing at IEM5 European Finals brings more points than the same placing at ICSC 8.

Finally, there is a depreciation system in place, which considers the fact how old an event is, decreasing the amount of points distrubuted from previous events as time passes. For example, points gained during IEM5 World Championship in February are in August worth 68% of their initial value. Also, an inactive team will see its place decrease after losing points month after month.

Events in August

The ranking includes events dating back from the very beginning of the year, but let's see which August events caused the latest changes.

The new IEM system gave us qualifications for the first Global Challenge in Guangzhou. Temporary secured the American spot by defeating Backfire (although it turns out they won't attend the Chinese event), while Fnatic, Anexis (then known as TCM-Gaming) and mousesports took the Europeans spots.

IEM6 GC Guangzhou final qualifer
fnatic mousesports
Anexis Temporary

Without a doubt, the biggest LAN event of the month was e-Stars Seoul 2011 where SK's invincibility was ended by Frag eXecutors. ASUS Summer 2011 was another notable LAN tournament, although less influential.

e-Stars Seoul 2011 ASUS Summer 2011
1st Frag eXecutors 1st Frag eXecutors
2nd SK Gaming 2nd DTS
3rd Natus Vincere 3rd/4th Lions
4th mTw 3rd/4th Natus Vincere


After these events, is SK still at the first place? Did Frag eXecutors make up 
the gap with Na´Vi and SK? What will be mousesports' & WinFakt's place after their e-Stars performances? Are ESC Gaming, M5 and Anexis affected by not attending e-Stars?

The Top 10

Let's take a closer look at the current top 10 teams and what affected their place on the list.

 
10
.
WinFakt

WinFakt boot Lions out of the top 10 and take their 10th place. Even though the Finnish team wasn't able to reach the final step for the Guangzhou GC, they made a very respectable top 6 at e-Stars
.

Top matches: WinFakt 16-9 fnatic
  WinFakt 16-5 project_kr
  WinFakt 16-8 eSahara
       
Results: 5-6th at e-Stars


 9. mousesports

After qualifying for the IEM6 GC
Guangzhou and a top 6 at the e-Stars, mousesports make a really strong comeback with the best increase of the month (+10 places).

Top matches: mousesports 16-13 WinFakt
  mousesports 16-8 WinFakt
  mousesports 16-11 Lions
       
Results: qualified for IEM6 GC Guangzhou
  5-6th at e-Stars


 8. Anexis

Despite of not attending e-Stars, Anexis keep their 8th place thanks to their qualification for the Guangzhou Global Challenge, although mousesports & WinFakt are now very close to the Danish team.

Top matches: Anexis 16-12 WinFakt
  Anexis 16-7 Lions
       
Results: qualified for IEM6 GC Guangzhou


7
. Moscow Five

Even though M5 was inactive during the month, they keep their 7th place despite losing some points.

6
. ESC Gaming

Just like M5, ESC was inactive but stays at their 6th place.
 


5
. fnatic

Since their victory at the IEM5 European Finals, fnatic seem to have difficulties to climb on the top of big events. The Swedish powerhouse stays at the 5th place, despite in August only winning their ticket for the Guangzhou Global Challenge and finishing at for them disappointing 7-8th place at e-Stars.

Top matches: fnatic 21-19 Anexis
  fnatic 16-6 x6tence
  fnatic 16-14 Soltec
       
Results: 7-8th at e-Stars
  qualified for IEM6 GC Guangzhou


4
. mTw

4th at the e-Stars, mTw has not been able to reach the podium contrary to usual. There is now a real gap between the Danish team and the current top 3.

Top matches: mTw 16-6 mousesports
  mTw 16-12 project_kr
       
Results: 4th at e-Stars


3
. Natus Vincere

The first indisputable team of the top3 is Na´Vi. As SK and Fx are currently winning almost everything, Na´Vi is lurking from behind after a 3rd place at e-Stars and a top4 at ASUS Summer.

Top matches: Na´Vi 22-18 mTw
  Na´Vi 16-3 WinFakt
  Na´Vi 16-12 mousesports
       
Results: 3rd at e-Stars
  3rd/4th at ASUS Summer


2
. Frag eXecutors

Frag eXecutors have made a strong comeback after missing major events DH Summer and GameGune. As the Polish team has won both e-Stars and ASUS Summer, they are the team of the month and those achievements put them at the 2nd place, very close to the top spot.

Top matches: Frag eXecutors
16-9 SK
  Frag eXecutors
16-8 Na´Vi
  Frag eXecutors
2-0 DTS
       
Results: 1st at e-Stars
  1st at ASUS Summer


1
. SK gaming

Despite their defeat against Fx in the e-Stars final, SK keep their 1st place in the ranking, mainly thanks to their 3 successive victories at DreamHack Summer, ICSC8 and GameGune.

Top matches: SK 16-8 mTw
  SK 16-9 Na´Vi
  SK 16-10 fnatic
       
Results: 2nd at e-Stars

 

Top 25 teams ranking

Let's take a look at the overall table with the top 25 teams, including amount of their points and position change compared to the previous month.

Evo Place   Points   Teams
           
- 1.
         1031.63      SK Gaming
+1 2.
  919.15    Frag eXecutors
-1 3.
  824.06    Natus Vincere
- 4.
  496.35    mTw       
- 5.
  470.65    fnatic
- 6.
  344.31    ESC Gaming
- 7.
  248.02    Moscow Five
- 8.
  181.91    Anexis
   +10 9.
  175.06    mousesports
+3 10.
  165.17    WinFakt
-2 11.
  162.46    Lions
+3 12.
  97.42    DTS
-3 13.
  96.18    FireGamers
-2 14.
  85.65    KerchNET
+2 15.
  82.57    eSahara
-5 16.
  79.30    Evil Geniuses
-3 17.
  78.94    x6tence
-2 18.
  68.25    Virtus.pro
E 19.
  45.97    TyLoo
- 20.
  45.90    paiN
+1 21.
  45.72    Soltec
+6 22.
  43.62    project_kr
-2 23.
  42.29    DELTA
+5 24.
  33.87    UMX
-1 25.
  33.21    HEADSHOTBG


Evolution of the Top 10 Teams (points per months)



Events

If you are wondering which events were included in the making of this ranking, here is a list in 3 levels (although there are in fact 9, but we merged them for displaying purposes).

High: IEM5 European Finals, IEM5 World, Xperia PLAY, DreamHack Summer, GameGune, e-Stars
Medium: IEM5 American Finals, ICSC 7, ASUS Winter, OSPL Spring, ASUS Spring, ICSC 8, GC Guangzhou EU qual, ASUS Summer
Low: WGF, Digifest 2011 Solaris, ESEA Invite Season 8, Adepto BH, Balkan Challenge Summer, GC Guangzhou US qual

If you have any questions about the ranking, feel free to ask in the comments below and of course stay tuned to HLTV.org for the next update at the end of September.


Great job
2011-09-12 19:16:21
hate frag executors they made me lost 90 thousand at bet last match
2011-09-12 19:46:38
Hahaha..!!
xD
2011-09-12 20:02:14
HEADSHOTBG made me lose 30k :(
2011-09-12 20:46:57
ESC made me lose 140m (no kiddin ) and i was the first in top10 -.- that was very stupid lol
2011-09-12 21:11:47
sometimes teams are very disapointing
2011-09-12 22:41:34
not really teams are disappointing, but gambling, guys, gambling :>
2011-09-13 01:04:33
hahaha that's true :D but i'm not a gambler,i never gamble in real life and i haven't won anything from gambling or anything else...that's why i am not so disapointed but i was hoping so badly to win something xD but never mind,life goes on :D
2011-09-13 16:43:57
ESC made me lose 80k >.<
2011-09-13 21:44:58
140m>80k >.< so i win (lol) :D
2011-09-14 13:39:26
which match? :D
2011-10-06 04:11:09
GJ hltv.org !
let's go Frag eXecutors, to the top.
2011-09-12 20:00:07
ITSSSSSS WROOOOOOOOOONG, NAVI TOP TEAM <3
2011-09-12 23:33:21
lol, now for long they arent.
2011-09-13 12:50:05
whatever....I respect your opinion, but I know what I mean, they are better than any team I've ever seen.
I'm not putting down the other teams, but this is my opinion !

is only sad that they are not engaging in counter-strike like last year, if they were, they would score twice in the sk (yn)
2011-09-13 13:39:32
sk on top? whata bullshit :p temporary condition
2011-09-12 22:05:01
ye, who will bet them?
2011-09-13 00:12:51
???

I suggest you seek a doctor

SK has (can't argue with this)

the best lineup in the whole world

but fX is the.. hmm how could I say, they are just GREAT on decisive matches and stuff and they are natural WINNERS, they will always be "Titans".

aside that.. I like Navi and all but I believe mTw is the 3rd, they can win against SK and fX
2011-09-13 00:13:25
but FX now lose to M5 ,and the chance to New York,they are not stable.Not like SK . NOly top 4 have the ability to beat them in LAN
2011-09-13 03:27:06
Ok, SK will win every small/med lan, but Can you count how many times Golden5 won eswc/wcg ? The most important lans.

But ye, they are not stable in a year, they are stable for like 5 years winning most major events

e0t
2011-09-13 12:51:48
SK are new ..
2011-09-13 13:16:48
so how ffs he can says that SK is the best, like NaVi, they won everything in 2010 , everyone NAVI THE BEST IN THE WORLD, now they arent so how u can judge someone for little time space ?

"they are not stable.Not like SK "
Sry, it isnt swedish dreamteam which in 2012 wont be exist, EOT
2011-09-13 14:19:27
> SK has (can't argue with this)
> the best lineup in the world

Stopped reading there, you're retarded. Hell, when you said 'can't argue with this' it was a pretty massive red flag you're lacking in IQ.
2011-09-13 07:22:29
I'm sorry, so tell me wich team has a better line-up than SK? please.
2011-09-13 23:02:16
+1
2011-09-14 14:08:53
by: ZMXD
#2
Awesome job and welcome home <3
2011-09-12 19:17:23
amazing hltv.org
2011-09-12 19:17:31
amazing ! :D
2011-09-12 19:17:39
AWESOME
2011-09-12 19:17:49
nice sk
2011-09-12 19:17:55
yo yo yo..!!
sk \m/
2011-09-12 20:03:02
Nice - might be a good idea to have a dedicated 'live' page for it?
2011-09-12 19:18:26
cool
2011-09-12 19:18:36
gj reakq ;-)
2011-09-12 19:18:36
Fair ranking IMO
Well done.
2011-09-12 19:18:39
SK's team played very well this year.
deserved.
2011-09-12 19:18:41
deserverd? rather not.

*IEM5 European Championship Finals, Group Stage:
Frag eXecutors (16) vs SK Gaming (13)

*IEM5 World Championship, Semi-finals:
Frag eXecutors (2) vs SK Gaming (1)

*Xperia PLAY 2011, Final:
Frag eXecutors (2) vs SK Gaming (0)

*e-Stars Seoul 2011, Upper bracket:
Frag eXecutors (16) vs SK Gaming (9)

*e-Stars Seoul 2011, Final:
Frag eXecutors (2*) vs SK Gaming (1)

FX is unbeatable for SK but yeah, they won LANs where FX can't attend. GG for them. Ahh, I almost forgot, FX lose vs M5 inet match, they are unstable, it's not important that on every LAN they was minimum top3 in this year...
2011-09-13 21:16:31
typical polish fanboy.
2011-09-13 23:03:03
Said guy with <3 forest in nickname, yeah... maybe i'm a fanboy, but it not change anything. This year FX>SK

Post edited 2011-09-14 07:43:03
2011-09-14 07:40:06
i think you forget the 3 or 4 wins SK against Fx in a row when delpan joins SK :)
How about that here they finished draw --> http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=28&&offset=0&a..


http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=28&&offset=25&..

http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=28&&offset=25&..

http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=28&&offset=25&..
so dont write bullshits like for Sk Fx are unbeatable and that make you blind polish fanboy

Post edited 2011-09-22 13:28:32
2011-09-22 13:18:47
great job dude
2011-09-12 19:18:45
firegamers no longer exists
2011-09-12 19:18:54
CS on Brazil no longer exists...
2011-09-13 04:29:10
Nice ranking system :)
2011-09-12 19:19:25
Uhh cool.
2011-09-12 19:19:30
nice
2011-09-12 19:19:49
nice job :D
2011-09-12 19:20:03
SK did a fine job :))
2011-09-12 19:20:43
by: blg-
#19
Great job :)
+ G2L and PGL on events

Post edited 2011-09-12 19:23:58
2011-09-12 19:20:50
by: rzyx
#21
:o reaqk ! Didn't knew you make things like this, very nice croissant!

I would comment on the ranking, but I would probably be spammed by the PT guys :|
2011-09-12 19:21:41
dude that's why people doesnt like u, stupid comment lol. compare the rankings btw
2011-09-12 21:27:39
Exactly the same, with a tiny difference on the points lost during the months, which ain't a major difference between both. :)

Post edited 2011-09-12 21:36:10
2011-09-12 21:35:37
yeah, my toughts are all concentrated on you
2011-09-13 01:20:15
Maybe this will end "the best team in the world" threads here on hltv.


Now we now how it really looks.
2011-09-12 19:22:50
Silly you.
Silly silly you.
2011-09-13 14:38:12
come again?
2011-09-13 16:34:46
That stuff will never end.
2011-09-13 17:17:22
Nice Fx & SK but try to reach at 1st Fx=)
2011-09-12 19:23:06
headshotbg fucking off da hook
2011-09-12 19:23:25
godlike
2011-09-12 19:24:07
This is what we needed. Welcome reakq.
2011-09-12 19:24:18
Id rank 9-12 before current 5-8 :)

but nice job!
2011-09-12 19:24:31
SK <3
2011-09-12 19:25:10
FX :)
2011-09-12 19:26:25
good job, we will have ranking every month? :D
2011-09-12 19:26:25
by: reakq - HLTV.org
#36
Yes, you will be able to follow the evolution of it month after month
2011-09-12 19:28:51
this is ranking from start of the year right?
2011-09-12 20:05:34
by: reakq - HLTV.org
#118
The ranking starts on January 2011, there are currently 200 teams ranked. For the moment, you can see the top 20 for each month on my profil. Later, we will dedicate a page for it with the whole ranking

Post edited 2011-09-12 20:22:49
2011-09-12 20:16:16
we will dedicate a page for it with the whole ranking

====
+1 it will be nice
Nice job
2011-09-12 21:09:45
Looks very good. Just remember to remove teams that doesnt exist anymore like firegamers :P
2011-09-12 23:22:01
by: reakq - HLTV.org
#264
Are we sure about FG? I need proof to remove it. Otherwise, all their points would be lost for nothing :(
2011-09-13 00:28:20
Dont have proof just heard it from others :D
2011-09-13 00:35:41
So you shouldn't trust in the 'others', saw they training few days ago, they just got problem with their visa to IEM6.
about ex-Pain i don't know tbh..
2011-09-13 04:31:44
oh okay :)
2011-09-13 07:49:10
FireGamers - shemp, urubuzinho,ell, FalleN and nak
ex-paiN - fnx, bit, btt, chucky and prd
2011-09-13 00:53:23
so what? lol
2011-09-13 23:06:00
fg exists. lol
2011-09-14 04:04:46
cmon ansWERRRRR
2011-09-12 20:11:18
Read the last part of his post "events".

Btw nice to see some frenchies, well done and good luck for ur work Reakq.

Post edited 2011-09-12 20:18:40
2011-09-12 20:17:51
I wish that you will make movies from events as well as your talent is huge ;)
2011-09-13 02:03:23
SK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2011-09-12 19:27:02
good job, reakq.
2011-09-12 19:27:26
Awesome job, reakq!:)
2011-09-12 19:29:43
how much points you get if you are first at any high mid or low tournament?
2011-09-12 19:29:59
m5 top7:D
2011-09-12 19:30:08
AHAHAHA, AS I SAID!
2011-09-12 19:30:43
alert, polish fanboy
2011-09-13 23:07:04
cool to see mouz back in top10 :))
i know only points count, but for me their are already on place 8 :PP
2011-09-12 19:30:49
karrigan, great asset...

- ninja - zonix + kapio + approx?
2011-09-13 00:16:51
Ninja did great job vs SK :)
let's wait little bit :)
2011-09-13 13:20:06
pls no kapio and approx, they dont have the time anymore and dont have the same skill level as a few years ago, ninja and zonixx doing great atm
no need for changes
2011-09-13 13:26:34
nice
2011-09-12 19:31:09
Awesome feature, great job! Keep this shit going :)
2011-09-12 19:31:14
Awesome good job !
2011-09-12 19:31:43
Good job reakq. :)
2011-09-12 19:32:08
ololo navi nice
2011-09-12 19:32:32
looks good.
2011-09-12 19:32:35
nice!
2011-09-12 19:35:05
lol cry fanboys. cry. I think M5 even not top7 objevtively...
2011-09-12 19:35:47
I think x objectively.
FLAWLESS LOGIC
2011-09-13 14:40:03
Wow, well done!
2011-09-12 19:36:11
Bit Late its September :p

Very nice Job Reakq as usual!!!

Finally a ranking :D
2011-09-12 19:36:49
Mate, you do the rank of that month in the next month (early days).
2011-09-12 19:39:30
12th.. :D
2011-09-12 19:53:44
Why ppl always saying its late for everything, for a great job like this (i mean look at the croissant), i believe it require a lot of times. :)
2011-09-12 20:06:51
It takes time to prepare and to do the final work...
2011-09-12 20:11:15
Great, great, great job.
2011-09-12 19:37:27
Go SK & FX, Na vi should change their line up!
2011-09-12 19:37:41
yea so fnatic and mtw can fight about first place... :D
2011-09-12 19:38:51
?? go see a doctor?
2011-09-13 00:18:10
So you think they are playing good?

Post edited 2011-09-13 12:31:31
2011-09-13 12:29:52
Nice job SK (:


2011-09-12 19:37:56
in Augest *
2011-09-12 19:40:47
don't troll my post (: when you win a tournament , you can troll all my fucking post ;) btach
2011-09-12 19:43:40
did you even read the article?
"As the Polish team has won both e-Stars and ASUS Summer, they are the team of the month"

SK are the top team mostly based on previous victories this summer

oh and its spelled August, noob
2011-09-12 19:54:09
<3 hltv forever.
2011-09-12 19:38:23
every now and then u surprise us by your commitment towards the community and the game...... and this work, this is too awesome for me to explain...
seeing all the analysis and understanding the work you people have done, hats off to you people.
I seriously <3 HLTV.org
thanks a lot for this great job :)
2011-09-12 19:38:47
+1 cant say more!
2011-09-12 22:06:19
lol...tu zinda hai :P
2011-09-13 08:18:23
kya matlab bhai ?
2011-09-13 16:03:18
lol i thought its usually -1 for a team moving up 1 place
and +1 for a team going down 1 place.
anyways it was difficult to undertand the rankings :D
2011-09-12 19:39:08
Its not :)
2011-09-12 20:13:31
SK #1 :D
2011-09-12 19:40:10
of Augest montch *
2011-09-12 19:40:34
Still #1 :)
2011-09-12 19:40:54
Nope, overall SK is first.
2011-09-12 19:43:47
+1
2011-09-12 20:21:49
nope, fx
2011-09-12 21:07:31
dont u read? FX is team of august, SK i overall.
2011-09-12 21:12:37
Do not feed these fuckin animals :)
2011-09-12 21:36:33
never never admit when they are wrong, im not saying FX is a bad team but they never face the truth either :)
2011-09-12 21:45:24
Yep. Kids.
2011-09-12 21:46:21
Word. =)
2011-09-12 22:39:43
Really nice.
2011-09-12 19:40:39
Really awesome, a feature which has been missed. I really hope you will keep it updated etc.
2011-09-12 19:40:55
gj
2011-09-12 19:42:31
WOWOWOWOWO excellent!
2011-09-12 19:42:34
NICE FX TOP1 2011 GOGO

fx would be a first, if they went gamegun and DH summer imo

Post edited 2011-09-12 19:50:58
2011-09-12 19:42:44
no
2011-09-12 21:37:19
a hypothetical situation means literally nothing.
2011-09-13 06:59:51
Pretty dumb comment.
This is referring to the flaws of statistics, which is completely appropriate.
2011-09-13 14:45:08
Saying a team would have won an event if they attended is stupid. Maybe you saw his edited comment only, but thats what he said before.
2011-09-13 20:31:40
Fair enough, IF he specifically talked about winning (rather than attending) then it was a rather useless comment.
2011-09-13 20:44:55
where are you know stupid russian fanboys?
2011-09-12 19:44:02
?
2011-09-12 19:45:02
by: b1ue
#93
little fail? not! big fail :(
2011-09-12 19:56:56
I agree on the list
2011-09-12 19:44:04
amazing :)
2011-09-12 19:45:08
sad Lions. I hope soon they get back to the top10
2011-09-12 19:45:10
Temporary would rape the fock out of some teams like HEADSHOTBG, x6, Soltec, Delta, etc

2011-09-12 19:45:14
mm but if they keep not attending any tours they will not be in that list, BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2011-09-12 19:47:37
And then you woke up
2011-09-12 23:06:19
lol? temporary has wayyyy more skill than a good amount of the teams in top25... they definitely could beat a good amount of those teams. they are at least even in skill
(if not better) and would could have extrmely close matches (if not winning) with dts, firegamers, kerchnet, esahara, virtus, pain... and would almost definitely beat x6, soltec, project_kr, delta, umx, and hsbg.

2011-09-13 07:08:08
"ok"
2011-09-13 13:16:40
nice response.
2011-09-13 20:32:42
Haha.. I could sit here and write a paper on how low you americans really are on cs. But since nine out of ten Americans are big headed retards. I don't feel like wasting my time arguing with any of you.
2011-09-13 22:42:38
so you are a bigot too? nice.

sad that in 2011 people still label others because of where they are from.

Post edited 2011-09-14 03:44:30
2011-09-14 03:43:32
Yes...




But that's the harsh reality
2011-09-14 10:24:55
They got a french, Xp3 so maybe he's right ^^
2011-09-14 13:00:54
sin~
#303
a hypothetical situation means literally nothing.
2011-09-13 06:59:51
2011-10-06 04:17:01
FX GO TO top1 this year
2011-09-12 19:45:53
in my opinion m5 should be 5

hope that hsbg will go up and up
gl
2011-09-12 19:46:05
this great work, don't understand how mTw can be that far behind and that close to fnatic but what the hell, it can't be more objective than that :)
2011-09-12 19:48:23
by: Dare_Dev1L - HLTV.org
#226
A consistent list of 2nd and 3rd places don't help much hahahaha :P Regardless of how well they play against top teams.
2011-09-12 22:27:28
true, but thought it would gather more points :)
2011-09-12 23:00:48
by: Dare_Dev1L - HLTV.org
#287
So did I >.<
2011-09-13 02:43:29
by: reakq - HLTV.org
#322
mTw has missed some recent events like GG'11 and ICSC8. Also, the team really needs to win a major event this year, that's their main problem :(
2011-09-13 13:24:05
might be right, the missing of a major championship :)
2011-09-13 16:36:00
Nice job, interesting to see :)
2011-09-12 19:48:27
yeah gogogo mouz <3
2011-09-12 19:48:27
Great job done so far : )
2011-09-12 19:50:59
Sad for Americans and Asians who attend less tournaments and may be ranked better otherwise, but nice job anyway, kinda accurate ^^
2011-09-12 19:51:18
sk/fx/navi wont lose their place to other teams, even mTw cant handle them couse they got twice points more ;p
2011-09-12 19:51:58
funny ranking
2011-09-12 19:53:37
by: b1ue
#94
why funny? because fx is not top1? :) IN THIS YEAR sk is still better than fx
2011-09-12 19:58:23
is true sk>fx
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/691/asdkue.pn..

Post edited 2011-09-12 20:22:51
2011-09-12 20:22:27
nvm.. my mistake :P

Post edited 2011-09-12 20:48:03
2011-09-12 20:46:32
np mate these result are from this year :D
2011-09-12 20:48:31
e-Stars Seoul 2011 ASUS Summer 2011
1st Frag eXecutors 1st Frag eXecutors
2nd SK Gaming 2nd DTS
3rd Natus Vincere 3rd/4th Lions
4th mTw 3rd/4th Natus Vincere


k.
2011-09-12 23:47:07
only for august?
2011-09-13 01:04:14
read title of article ?
2011-09-13 01:20:14
yea but we talking about general ranking read the article better
2011-09-13 09:46:35
nope.
2011-09-12 23:47:37
i said THIS YEAR, STILL.. not ATM,
now maybe fx can beat sk but in overall ranking sk is STILL little higher than fx ;)
2011-09-12 23:59:30
hey troll, you've got some quite clear statistics up there proving that SK>fx 2011, problem?
2011-09-13 22:29:28
look at the all time achievements,
yo.
2011-09-14 01:08:28
that's not what we're discussing though
2011-09-14 09:56:30
e-Stars Seoul 2011 ASUS Summer 2011
1st Frag eXecutors 1st Frag eXecutors
2nd SK Gaming 2nd DTS
3rd Natus Vincere 3rd/4th Lions
4th mTw 3rd/4th Natus Vincere

+ #268
2011-09-14 13:58:48
m5 m5!!!
2011-09-12 19:58:24
k1ck? :c
2011-09-12 19:59:39
oh boy, here we go....
2011-09-12 20:00:55
go sk go
2011-09-12 20:00:56
nice hsbg !
2011-09-12 20:00:57
Nice job there m8 ;)
2011-09-12 20:02:39
FG :)
2011-09-12 20:02:48
This rank its good but might not be truth at all

Why?

Because some good teams might miss good events because of funding.

What if a team with low funding goes to WCG and ESWC only during the year, and then manage to win them both with 16-5 MAX results against navi, fx, sk, mtw and all.

Meaning they're for sure the best team out there, but with low ammounts of points because of low funding.

Im exaggerating yeah but FX would be top1 if they didnt miss those events

EDIT: just like DTS, events they attend with navi as oponent, Event they manage to win.. or at least beat NAVI

Post edited 2011-09-12 20:04:24
2011-09-12 20:03:31
so, How would you do it?

ont: Great job reaq, loved it
2011-09-12 20:12:51
Have no Idea, I come up with thoughts I cant make :p
2011-09-12 20:31:31
There's no other way to compare "who is the best team". This system couldn't be fairer.
2011-09-12 20:48:35
Yeah the word TOP is tricky, ranking/placings fits better
2011-09-12 20:49:20
I dont understand your photo my friend
2011-09-13 01:53:17
You said that if FX attended to the events they missed they would be top1
pretty sure
:)
They only had a lucky tournament and then, all of a sudden, are the best in the world. LOL
2011-09-13 03:52:27
love the graph! lol!
2011-09-12 20:05:19
Great job reakq =)
2011-09-12 20:11:59
by: reakq - HLTV.org
#121
thanks dude ;)
2011-09-12 20:18:37
WHERE IS XPERIA ?
2011-09-12 20:13:14
Xperia wasn't in August..
2011-09-12 20:15:12
when u got the hltv.org tag ??
2011-09-12 22:12:15
Long time ago :s
2011-09-12 22:43:31
Quite long actually but he always hide tag and had "<3 Tyloo" ;)
2011-09-12 22:46:50
Aren't you happy of having an alien who you are able to interact with?
2011-09-13 15:04:08
great job hltv.org! One day you will be millionaires. Esport is the future :)


2011-09-12 20:13:23
ESC Gaming at 6th place? this is the only 1 I disgaree
2011-09-12 20:17:05
3rd/4th at Xperia
4th at DH
2nd at gamegune
Their only bad event was ICSC, because of the lack of practise before the event. kalle was on vacation.

That's why. ;)
2011-09-12 21:28:09
+1
2011-09-13 11:46:57
esc gaming 1st place meritet :D
ESC <333333333333333
2011-09-12 20:19:00
FX top-1 THE WORLD IMO!
2011-09-12 20:19:02
reakq #1
2011-09-12 20:20:19
huge work dude, n1
2011-09-12 20:20:36
didnt UMX.usa place higher than UMX.tw..... just wondering how umx.us isnt on there when umx.tw is?
2011-09-12 20:22:26
by: reakq - HLTV.org
#131
UMX.tw was at the IEM5 World
2011-09-12 20:24:07
why hltv don't have polish blogers?
2011-09-12 20:22:42
by: GoMeZ - HLTV.org
#188
we have polish admins, quite a few
2011-09-12 21:29:11
only janusz1970
2011-09-12 21:44:24
by: GoMeZ - HLTV.org
#203
no,

you forgot PaniQ and addONE, which makes three, and equal most with Denmark.
2011-09-12 21:47:29
paniQ kid
addone ...
2011-09-12 22:17:29
Why no Swedes and Arabs then? :P
2011-09-13 02:45:28
What about the graphics, did you get someone to replace Neffet?

Post edited 2011-09-13 15:05:53
2011-09-13 15:05:36
cuz the appliants weren't satisfying enough maybe?
2011-09-12 23:07:29
AWESOME HLTV.ORG!
2011-09-12 20:23:33
GO FX!
2011-09-12 20:24:19
Awesome job reakqounet, But i've already said that elsewhere :p

2011-09-12 20:25:13
Nice Hltv, sk n1!!
2011-09-12 20:26:12
mtw>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Navi2011
2011-09-12 20:27:13
nope
2011-09-13 01:09:36
great joke!

Na`Vi > mTw

all years...
2011-09-16 18:45:24
GO SK!
2011-09-12 20:27:48
FX>all so far on lan!
2011-09-12 20:32:15
no. they got luck vs SK on eStars.

before that SK win FX many times this year. So be silent thank you boy.
2011-09-12 20:39:32
big tournaments, not showmatch or 200$

FX>sk :)

sry man but dont be mad, sk still got some chance in this year
2011-09-12 21:09:38
2x bo3 in ICSC8. 4-0 in maps total
2011-09-12 21:13:13
GZ, upload more .png screens. E-Stars 2011 FX vx SK results? We can say SK=FX. Haters gonna hate.
2011-09-12 21:36:28
2-1?
so, after all, SK 7 - 2 FX
LOL
2011-09-12 21:52:16
IEM5 Europe - FX - 16:13
IEM5 World - FX - 2:1
Xperia PLAY - FX - 2:0
E-stars - FX - 16:9/1:1

and what SK win versus FX on big tournaments? not showmatch or this not important :)

who cares about some net games or small tournaments :) stupid fanboys maybe

FX > SK this year sry... but you swedes still got chances, GL haha :)

Post edited 2011-09-13 00:39:30
2011-09-13 00:38:18
LOL i meant after Delpan joined, jesus so dumb
2011-09-13 22:24:37
i dont care when delpan join :) FX > sk this year
2011-09-13 22:26:29
haha like i said in my earlier post u guys cant face the truth, well check the rankings if u still cant understand, then you might check your sight

Post edited 2011-09-13 22:29:38
2011-09-13 22:29:10
lol fanboy check SK's record vs FX and you'll see facts don't lie... FX only won at estars and even that was close, and that was an event after SK came from vacation so... Ranking doesn't lie either :)
2011-09-12 23:29:56
and when sk won with fx, it wasn't close? results like 16:13, 16:12 ^^(without showmatch) IMO they're on this same level...
2011-09-13 00:23:56
IEM5 Europe - FX - 16:13
IEM5 World - FX - 2:1
Xperia PLAY - FX - 2:0
E-stars - FX - 16:9/1:1

and what SK win versus FX on big tournaments? not showmatch or this not important :)

who cares about some net games or small tournaments :) stupid fanboys maybe

FX > SK this year sry... but you swedes still got chances, GL haha :)

Post edited 2011-09-13 00:39:17
2011-09-13 00:38:38
Poland is sad.
2011-09-13 21:53:50
sweden funny :) <3 GL
2011-09-13 22:03:26
yeah but they've gotta do something to keep their miserable spirits up, just ignore them
2011-09-13 22:33:33
I don't understand you o.o

Post edited 2011-09-16 18:57:02
2011-09-16 18:54:55
AWESOME feature!

This is exactly what I've been waiting for!
2011-09-12 20:33:53
very nice job ! thanks hltv org :)go SK !
2011-09-12 20:33:55
nice job. FX go to the top soon :DDDD
2011-09-12 20:36:51
SK GAMING<3333
2011-09-12 20:36:51
I love to see FX fanboys cry. SK > FX so far this year.
2011-09-12 20:37:34
gj
2011-09-12 20:41:17
awsome job hltv.org !
2011-09-12 20:41:53
awsome
2011-09-12 20:45:15
what a great job from hltv.org!
2011-09-12 20:47:31
Very good idea.

Altough I think that system shows more like the ranking of team in last year.

I think the previous results should count less than they do now.. FX should be top1 atm.
2011-09-12 20:48:14
by: reakq - HLTV.org
#162
Finally, there is a depreciation system in place, which considers the fact how old an event is, decreasing the amount of points distrubuted from previous events as time passes. For example, points gained during IEM5 World Championship in February are in August worth 68% of their initial value. Also, an inactive team will see its place decrease after losing points month after month.
2011-09-12 20:53:07
smart
2011-09-12 21:07:04
I can read.. and I read all you wrote

You should have read what I wrote more carefully..

As I said before, previous results should count less than they do now, meaning that for example the 68% you pointed out, in my opinion it should less than 68% /for example 20%) ...
2011-09-12 22:25:53
Einstein
2011-09-12 22:13:43
What?
2011-09-12 22:26:15
why's that? just cause they won 1 tournament?!
2011-09-13 02:28:05
hurr durr fx won estars they should be n1 durr
QQ bro
2011-09-13 22:35:11
SK Gaming!

Post edited 2011-09-12 20:49:56
2011-09-12 20:48:39
SK !!

Post edited 2011-09-12 20:49:39
2011-09-12 20:49:13
Great job! I think you should find a way to fit the rating system in the ranking system you know, integrate them. Would be even cooler :D
2011-09-12 20:49:15
amazing, i can't imagine the hours you spent on this
2011-09-12 20:51:22
It would be nice to see that ranking on main page ^^;

btw, nice job
2011-09-12 20:52:34
nice job reakq
2011-09-12 20:52:38
great job :D
2011-09-12 20:53:01
Nice post and very nice rankings. completely agree. maybe NaVi a bit further down, but then again I have not been paying too much attention to recent tournaments either :)
Great job HLTV!
2011-09-12 20:55:20
Like this one, SK <3 :P
2011-09-12 20:55:26
where is NaVi fanboys ?
I didn't see any comment by an ukrainian. :o
2011-09-12 21:03:01
Portugal cannot into counter-strike
2011-09-13 00:16:34
and i'm talking about my country ? ROFLOL
2011-09-13 00:32:02
english?
2011-09-13 02:26:20
right here. got all my excuses on me already.. u wanna go?
2011-09-13 01:12:25
?
2011-09-13 01:29:11
what? grow the f up boy, ukrainian guys are probably the most quite guys around here! even last year, when navi were rulling the world, u never saw more than a handfull! please, grow up and stop it, its freaking childish!
2011-09-13 02:25:58
"ukrainian guys are probably the most quite guys around here!" ? now, maybe. but a few months, i don't think so... it's not about childish. I visit 2/3 times HLTV per day, and some time ago, in most of the matchs of NaVi, i saw some ukrainians just saying "navi > all" , etc ! Now, when HLTV made a team ranking, i dont see any ukrainian saying nothing, whatever congratulating NaVi or still saying "navi > all" ... I don't "incriminate" the ukrainian guys, just compare, old times (months), to now. peace :-D

Post edited 2011-09-13 16:13:17
2011-09-13 16:11:58
your unique observations are greatly appreciated
2011-09-15 03:35:49
delta? lol they are mr. nobody :D
2011-09-12 21:03:26
Joli travail ;)

HLTV.org best cs website by far!
2011-09-12 21:13:08
yeap. We Love HLTV :D

Post edited 2011-09-12 21:16:43
2011-09-12 21:16:29
really good job HLTV <3
2011-09-12 21:13:22
wow great job!!!

but please make a separate section for ranking where everyone can easily view ranking any time and can easily know who is world no.1 team currently :D
2011-09-12 21:16:12
by: Nomad - HLTV.org
#179
I will :-)
2011-09-12 21:19:38
Great stuff! Very detail!
2011-09-12 21:20:11
nice project, i hope u'll keep doing it systematically

Post edited 2011-09-12 21:20:48
2011-09-12 21:20:23
nice one.
2011-09-12 21:21:20
go lions top10.

Post edited 2011-09-12 21:25:46
2011-09-12 21:25:23
nice job dudes :D
2011-09-12 21:26:03
just look on mousesports! been waiting so long for them
2011-09-12 21:26:20
by: AMP
#189
Where's k1ck? :P
2011-09-12 21:32:10
Probably in Portugal :) (:D)
2011-09-12 21:36:40
What a nice feature. Good job reakq :)
2011-09-12 21:35:32
surprised it took so long, but very nice!
2011-09-12 21:36:50
Nice Feature GJ :)
2011-09-12 21:38:56
POLSKA NUMBER ONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2011-09-12 21:39:21
are you kidding me ? that is awsome :)
2011-09-12 21:41:17
WTF, SK 16-10 fnatic with the better results than Navi and mTw... that only means fnatic ftw...
2011-09-12 21:49:07
SK first pffffffffff.
2011-09-12 21:49:35
FX first pffffff.
2011-09-12 21:50:38
Great job !
2011-09-12 21:55:41
Awesome work, been way too long since we've had something like this done in the CS scene and its really great to have.

I think the results look reasonably accurate too, and it'll be interesting to see how it progresses over time. Good job!
2011-09-12 22:06:21
Awesome job as usual. My love for CS is back because of you guys, hltv crew.
2011-09-12 22:11:35
ESC behind fnatic & navi, HEAHEHAEHAHEHEAHEAHEAHEAHEHAEHAEHAHE
2011-09-12 22:12:38
So, what now polish fanboys? and all haters, SK is the best team of the world
2011-09-12 22:13:31
throughout the year Fx were a bit better, especially in the beginning of the year, second half of the year sk become better,now with delpan maybe they are still a bit better, we will see wcg,sec and other tourney results

iem euro

fx 3rd
sk 7-8?

iem world

fx 2nd
sk 4th

xperia
fx 1st
sk 2nd

sk 1st gamegune,dh summer,icsc 8
2nd estars

fx 1st asus summer,estars
2nd icsc 7

Post edited 2011-09-12 22:23:49
2011-09-12 22:22:23
I prefer best team of the month title than best team of the year, which isn't finished, yet.
2011-09-12 22:32:06
well that wouldnt be a lot of fun considering there are only 1-2 major tournaments played every month
so the team of the month would be super easy to guess based on those results
2011-09-13 22:37:15
Troll ranking! :P Great job!
2011-09-12 22:18:09
#217
yes in team ranking, but looking objectively currently 1.FX 2.SK 3.mTw.. although FX has not been DH Summer, Gamegune..

Post edited 2011-09-12 22:23:55
2011-09-12 22:23:26
navi navi navi hahahaha
nice SK :D
2011-09-12 22:26:02
Top 25 looks perfect well done mr france
2011-09-12 22:32:44
by: Dare_Dev1L - HLTV.org
#229
Would be weird of the ranking system was based on results against each other.

You know, like if say DTS beats Na'vi, then na'vi loses points and DTS gains points.


Basically a ladder system.
2011-09-12 22:33:29
Superb, well done.
2011-09-12 22:34:36
Awesome! Looks just about right!
2011-09-12 22:40:15
gj
2011-09-12 22:45:59
SK > < FX -.-

but good job HLTV.org !
2011-09-12 22:56:08
Good read.
2011-09-12 23:01:35
how is sk better than fx? sure they won more tournaments but most of them b/c fx wasnt there and when they did face each other fx made sk look like col 2010(oh snap i went there)
2011-09-12 23:02:31
they have played 9 maps against each other and it's 7-2 to SK, ya kn0w

Post edited 2011-09-12 23:09:09
2011-09-12 23:07:38
And SuPeRhErOtEaM wasnt there either. They would have won everything for sure. Logic <3
2011-09-13 01:02:49
finally your work has become an official part of HLTV.org, great job as always :)
2011-09-12 23:10:00
thanks for the hard work :)
2011-09-12 23:17:22
I LOVE the international ranking is officially back... We've needed this for 1.6

Post edited 2011-09-12 23:36:00
2011-09-12 23:35:41
Where is FEAR FACTORY ?!?!
2011-09-12 23:42:03
still top3 without motivation and under pressure.
2011-09-12 23:42:12
WOW, 2 teams from Brazil in the top 25 teams of the world ? That's a start !
2011-09-13 00:05:17
Na'Vi is placed too high.
2011-09-13 00:24:16
good eyer for HSBG :) in top25 in world <3
2011-09-13 01:01:02
the diference from 1/2/3 places and 4/5/6 is huge
2011-09-13 02:07:28
im shocked to see SK at the top !!! IRONY
2011-09-13 02:20:26
Nice job!
2011-09-13 02:39:44
please guys do the current rank.

i bet m5 should come inside the top5.
2011-09-13 03:03:55
great read !
2011-09-13 03:18:10
very cool, thanks for doing this hltv guys :D
2011-09-13 03:33:05
if frag executors would attend in dreamhack and gamegune and make a third place or better they definetely would be #1 btw neo best player ever

Post edited 2011-09-13 03:59:58
2011-09-13 03:59:10
Finally SK are the KINGS :-)
2011-09-13 04:03:49
Good job, glad to know a team ranking system here.
Great for HLTV.org, good for us.
2011-09-13 04:28:33
Even though GoMeZ won't say it, he is a little disappointed by the clear lack of a pie graph.
2011-09-13 04:38:16
very sexy
2011-09-13 05:21:38
a suggestion: display a table where we can find out exactly the rating of an event.

a question: how exactly do you CALCULATE the points. if you did mention it above, i seem 2 have missed it.

and you seem to have missed the fx v sk e-stars final on ferno 19-17.
2011-09-13 05:26:11
by: gCN
#302
Well explained ;)

Post edited 2011-09-13 06:20:14
2011-09-13 06:14:55
I think it is unfair for Chinese teams, because Tyloo is unable to take part in some of events such as Xperia PLAY, DreamHack Summer and GameGune, same as American teams
2011-09-13 08:04:03
by: Nomad - HLTV.org
#310
Well come on, if they do not play how the hell should we rank them?
2011-09-13 11:10:12
I guess you finally made it perfect, good job homie!
Now come back so we can BABAM everyone :)
And give them some HooligaN1 shit so they can jerk off!
haha
2011-09-13 11:47:16
in a couple months or so we'll see winfakt in top5
2011-09-13 11:50:20
Excellent job, reakq!
2011-09-13 12:05:36
gj hltv.org
2011-09-13 12:56:09
nice hltv
2011-09-13 13:55:35
WOW UMX.TW GOGO
2011-09-13 16:07:31
nice :)
2011-09-13 16:43:12
Seems fair, good job.
2011-09-13 16:56:18
Well, this is amazing article, good job and keep it going! One question, are you going to do this every month?
2011-09-13 17:18:19
by: reakq - HLTV.org
#343
as I said in #36, Yes, you will be able to follow the evolution of it month after month
2011-09-13 18:36:56
Very nice! Good job, really amazing feature for HLTV.org! +10
2011-09-13 20:54:44
umx... lol
2011-09-13 17:33:58
Frag eXecutors }{
2011-09-13 21:25:51
agreed
2011-09-14 00:18:29
pretty surprise with x6 at 17º
2011-09-14 06:53:00
gogo m5! gogo m5!
2011-09-14 11:37:17
SK <3
2011-09-14 11:48:49
FX if they were to the Dreamhack and GameGune were to first in the ranking
<3ASLAK
<3PASHA

Post edited 2011-09-14 11:52:58
2011-09-14 11:52:31
GOOD SHIT TO SEEE AGAIN!
2011-09-15 05:22:46
SK is definitely the better team
2011-09-21 01:07:38
for 2011 year?
2011-09-22 12:39:38
this is amazing. good job :)
2011-09-22 13:21:46
g0 x6!
2011-09-23 19:34:18
SK deserve it
they played very very well with the new line-up
I think they won 40 match in a row just loss 2 or 3 maps !!
there line-up is very awesome and because of the teamwork
gl sk
2011-09-29 06:55:12
1. Frag eXecutors
2. SK-Gaming

OK.
2011-10-01 02:24:06
So, whats up with the rank ey?
2011-10-15 18:02:06
i think that FX took 1st place now, right?
2011-10-15 18:07:57
yeahhhh SK-GAMING !!!!!!!
GJ
2011-11-07 16:53:08
when will be next update ?
2011-11-10 18:15:02
very good job!!!
M5 may have better results,i disapointed at them.
2011-11-10 20:31:48
update please!
2011-12-21 05:40:32
update please!
2011-12-21 05:54:45

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