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CS:GO beta is live
Valve put the Counter-Strike: Global Offensive beta live at about midnight in Europe and the wait for key holders to try the game is now over.
After having to postpone the beta launch, Valve announced November 30 as the date when the beta would go live and they kept that promise.
Nobody had a clue as to when the beta would go live and various social medias have been spammed throughout the day, with guesses as to when Valve would let the public play the CS:GO beta. Around midnight, the CS:GO developer team announced on their twitter account that the beta had gone live and was now available for key holders to download.
By the same token, Counter-Strike's website was re-launched and includes a Q/A for everyone with questions to the newest edition of the game. To read the Q/A click here, while you will be able to participate in the debate and feedback on the Steam forums.
Remember that the beta is only a small snippet of the final game. This means only selected maps and weapons will be playable.
Wondering why we have not given out any keys yet? Let us clarify. We will have keys, just as Chet Faliszek promised in our interview with him, recorded during the IEM6 Global Challenge New York.
Right now the main object for Valve is to stress test with the keys that have already been handed out at various events, such as the IEM event in New York, ESWC and most recently DreamHack Winter.
Once a stress test has been completed, Valve will be looking for server operators to get a better disbursement of servers geographically and when that is done, we will be able to raffle away keys to the beloved HLTV.org users.
So to those without a CS:GO beta key: hang in there!
Tags: Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, CS:GO
hope this game not replace 1.6 qq
2011-12-01 01:31:03
+1
2011-12-01 01:32:31
no worries CS:GO sucks not even worth trying it cs1.6 will stand forever even if its out of all the tournaments pro players will still play it for fun just like us
2011-12-01 10:02:36
I hate to break it to you, but pro players will go where the money is.
2011-12-01 16:23:21
true
2011-12-01 17:52:14
true but i thing it will end up like source .... 1.6 is wayyyy better
2011-12-01 19:43:13
idiot they will not play it if they don't like it they will just find a normal job
2011-12-02 18:05:59
Actually, why to find normal job when you can still earn money by playing games ?
2011-12-02 20:31:05
Actually I hope it does. I really hope this will get the source/1.6 community together, would be really great. I know everyone loves 1.6 and so do I, but lets be real, the scene is getting smaller day by day. The new generation gamers will only play fancy looking games so slowly 1.6 will die. Now the community is only whining about CS 1.6 is the best and stuff, but we now have to oppertunity to create a good new game. So if people should give feedback to Valve instead of whining. We can actually create a great game and possibly the whole community can move to CS:GO.
Post edited 2011-12-03 20:24:53
Post edited 2011-12-03 20:24:53
2011-12-03 20:24:12
+1
2011-12-01 01:45:56
Valve can never do a game that can replace Counter-Strike 1.6
Simply, they cant!
Simply, they cant!
2011-12-01 01:51:59
of course they can. if they get sponsor helps and make a $ 100,000 CS:GO tournament, for example, don't you think many pro players will migrate?
ps: they will never replice my game, which is 1.6 <3
ps: they will never replice my game, which is 1.6 <3
2011-12-01 02:05:58
They can't reach the help from sponsors, if they couldn't make players happy with CS:GO. If
Post edited 2011-12-01 06:43:33
Post edited 2011-12-01 06:43:33
2011-12-01 06:35:45
Valve is a multimillion dollar company, and as such they dont need any sponsormoney. They will though collaborate with big tournament organizers to replace cs 1.6 and cs source(if its even played somewhere)with cs:go.
2011-12-01 08:36:20
+1
2011-12-01 02:19:16
Of course they can. They just don't want to. And i cannot find some reasonable explanation for that...
2011-12-01 03:25:25
maybe they are just dumbs?
I mean, maybe ppl who created 1.6 left and there is nobody else to think about progaming... but only about profits...
Post edited 2011-12-01 04:21:14
I mean, maybe ppl who created 1.6 left and there is nobody else to think about progaming... but only about profits...
Post edited 2011-12-01 04:21:14
2011-12-01 04:20:54
That might be the only reason: profit.
Nothing else explains why they wanna make a game based on a less succesfull game than on a very succesfull one. I mean, obviously 1.6 won't last forever, but since it's the most played game of the CS "franchise", for so to say, it really makes no sense to make a game out of the less played one....... Why don't they make CS 2 instead of CS:S 2? I just don't get it...
Nothing else explains why they wanna make a game based on a less succesfull game than on a very succesfull one. I mean, obviously 1.6 won't last forever, but since it's the most played game of the CS "franchise", for so to say, it really makes no sense to make a game out of the less played one....... Why don't they make CS 2 instead of CS:S 2? I just don't get it...
2011-12-01 05:11:06
They're making CS2. But they can't say it now. If they announce CS2 , who will buy CS:GO?
They said
'That's what Counter-Strike is: a game of skill. And this is what CS:GO is: an effort to put anyone who has or should play Counter-Strike into the same game. That's a big enough goal but not a grand enough one to merit the name Counter-Strike 2.'
They said
'That's what Counter-Strike is: a game of skill. And this is what CS:GO is: an effort to put anyone who has or should play Counter-Strike into the same game. That's a big enough goal but not a grand enough one to merit the name Counter-Strike 2.'
2011-12-01 06:38:15
1.6 is successfull? ROFL check sales of MW3, they probably sold more copies in one day than 1.6 in its whole lifetime. consoles are THE market.
2011-12-01 07:54:47
Yes, but you have to keep in mind that 1.6 is 10+ years old. Nowadays people are much more into gaming, and they demand great graphics. If you can't see that a game which survived for 10+ years and still lives on, facing games like MW3, is succesfull, is useless to argue with you...
2011-12-01 11:01:22
"is succesfull"
no it's not. once again, check sales of MW3. 9.5 million copies sold on the first day, 96% of which were on xbox and ps.
if you want your game to be successfull, you should make it for both consoles and PC and make it casual. if you want it to be worshipped by a bunch of HLTV.org guys, be ready to lose your money.
no it's not. once again, check sales of MW3. 9.5 million copies sold on the first day, 96% of which were on xbox and ps.
if you want your game to be successfull, you should make it for both consoles and PC and make it casual. if you want it to be worshipped by a bunch of HLTV.org guys, be ready to lose your money.
2011-12-01 14:02:53
CS is with old graphics,old engine.And it's being played by people.Nowadays the kids want good graphics.And that sucks.For Real FPS you gotta play CS.
2011-12-01 15:10:27
Depends on what you call successful. You think it's successful because of the number of copies sold, he think it is because of the big tournaments etc.
How many copies it sells on the first day isn't about how the particular game is good, it's about how it's well presented. When a game is played on a big tournament, then that means it's good and competitive.
How many copies it sells on the first day isn't about how the particular game is good, it's about how it's well presented. When a game is played on a big tournament, then that means it's good and competitive.
2011-12-01 16:25:58
FPS and console in the same sentence. Sound funny :P CS is the most complete shooter game in history. BUT if you are 12 year old, you can't understand me. Killing a immaginary russian terrorist, and saving the world for 2 hours in-game play... really? They can sell 200 milion, but then the new shooter will come and steal MW3's players
2011-12-01 17:34:52
+1
2011-12-01 02:04:48
+1
Post edited 2011-12-01 02:06:16
Post edited 2011-12-01 02:06:16
2011-12-01 02:06:07
+1
2011-12-01 02:18:57
Hope it does, or CS will never survive. It's all about the money; pump up the prizes and people will convert.
2011-12-01 02:51:23
Ok, its all about money, and who have the money?
THE PLAYERS E FANS!
If i dont like CS:GO and they make 1.6 die, i will just give up gaming. And for sure they will not see any money from me.
Do u see any SPORT inventor getting amounts of money from it? The family of the football inventar is bilionare?
Money from e-sport is there, becouse gamers lover are people like any other, that want the best equipament, eat, go out etc...
However this is a new world, and is not professional and strong yet, but will be, and the games that will stick professionals, will be the most rated and played games.
So, if u like CS 1.6, just keep playing it, and 1.6 will be fine.
Chears!
THE PLAYERS E FANS!
If i dont like CS:GO and they make 1.6 die, i will just give up gaming. And for sure they will not see any money from me.
Do u see any SPORT inventor getting amounts of money from it? The family of the football inventar is bilionare?
Money from e-sport is there, becouse gamers lover are people like any other, that want the best equipament, eat, go out etc...
However this is a new world, and is not professional and strong yet, but will be, and the games that will stick professionals, will be the most rated and played games.
So, if u like CS 1.6, just keep playing it, and 1.6 will be fine.
Chears!
2011-12-01 03:27:19
It's quite right that the players buy the game, but 1.6 would never have gotten this big, if not for the tournaments. The reason that many people still play 1.6 is because of the prizes and because of the stardom. A lot of people play, because they have followed the big names over the years and still want to be like them and ofc. because it is a great game. It's important to remember that 1.6 is a very old game and newcomers aren't familiar with it.
The old garde is slowly dieing out and new gamers are fed with better graphics constantly, which becomes more and more important to people playing, and to spectators aswell. Sponsors know that and therefore they are slowly backing out of the 1.6 scene. If you want CS to live on and become even greater, you should support CS:GO, because like it or not, its the future of CS. You simply can't deny that if money are put in to tournaments in CS:GO, people will want to win that cash and therefore start playing the game.
I don't understand your comparison with the inventor of football.
Would also like to add that the ideal game for me would be 1.6 gameplay, spiced with new graphics, maybe some new weapons and especially new maps.
Post edited 2011-12-01 05:07:33
The old garde is slowly dieing out and new gamers are fed with better graphics constantly, which becomes more and more important to people playing, and to spectators aswell. Sponsors know that and therefore they are slowly backing out of the 1.6 scene. If you want CS to live on and become even greater, you should support CS:GO, because like it or not, its the future of CS. You simply can't deny that if money are put in to tournaments in CS:GO, people will want to win that cash and therefore start playing the game.
I don't understand your comparison with the inventor of football.
Would also like to add that the ideal game for me would be 1.6 gameplay, spiced with new graphics, maybe some new weapons and especially new maps.
Post edited 2011-12-01 05:07:33
2011-12-01 04:58:43
I give up, u'll never understand.
2011-12-01 18:50:07
+1
2011-12-01 04:09:09
1.6 is dying, GO is the future
2011-12-01 07:39:04
soo not true...
2011-12-01 12:11:42
Explain the dropping prize money then
2011-12-01 13:46:31
I'm telling you that more and more ppl are playing cs 1.6, at least in my country. And there are much less people that stops playing. CSGO will never be popular as 1.6.
2011-12-01 14:11:53
If you look at the prize money like i told you, you'll see a clear drop over the last years.
Organisations will drop their cs1.6 teams like mTw just did because it's just not profitable.
EG will probably be the next organisation to drop their cs team.
It doesn't matter if the serbian scene is growing, there's just not enough money to make it go around.
Organisations will drop their cs1.6 teams like mTw just did because it's just not profitable.
EG will probably be the next organisation to drop their cs team.
It doesn't matter if the serbian scene is growing, there's just not enough money to make it go around.
2011-12-01 14:34:06
yes a country with a population of 7mil is going to make a difference in the world gaming market
/sarcasm
/sarcasm
2011-12-01 14:45:15
yeah and a very trustworthy country describes his noble opinion
/sarcasm
/sarcasm
2011-12-01 15:02:34
Can u please just take a look on the valve data, that shows numbers of players around the world for each game, before talking trash here.
Brazil is one of the biggest countries, and 1.6 is just getting bigger here my friend.
100% sure thar is IMPOSSIBLE CS:GO rise up here.
Brazil is one of the biggest countries, and 1.6 is just getting bigger here my friend.
100% sure thar is IMPOSSIBLE CS:GO rise up here.
2011-12-01 18:54:07
we're talking money here, there's not enough cash in the brazilian scene to finance 2 or 3 new top teams + at least 2 new major tournaments, which is what 1.6 needs
2011-12-01 19:36:38
http://store.steampowered.com/stats/
2011-12-01 19:01:18
I can't believe how many idiots there are who don't believe this.
Face it, 1.6 is dying FAST
There's less pro-standard players around. Teams are finding it difficult to pick up good enough players to replace those who left.
Toiurnament prize money has dropped a LOT. And that's not the worst thing. These tournaments aren't even paying their winners.
The salaries are a complete joke, and that's for the best of the best
1.6 may be alive in shitty Eastern Europe/South America. But in the West (the countries with actual money) it's quickly on it's way out.
So yes, carry on saying "1.6 4eva". You're the guys who are killing competitive CS. You're worse than the people who refused to move from Quakeworld to Quake 3.
Post edited 2011-12-02 12:05:02
Face it, 1.6 is dying FAST
There's less pro-standard players around. Teams are finding it difficult to pick up good enough players to replace those who left.
Toiurnament prize money has dropped a LOT. And that's not the worst thing. These tournaments aren't even paying their winners.
The salaries are a complete joke, and that's for the best of the best
1.6 may be alive in shitty Eastern Europe/South America. But in the West (the countries with actual money) it's quickly on it's way out.
So yes, carry on saying "1.6 4eva". You're the guys who are killing competitive CS. You're worse than the people who refused to move from Quakeworld to Quake 3.
Post edited 2011-12-02 12:05:02
2011-12-02 12:04:47
+1
Exactly my point :)
Exactly my point :)
2011-12-02 15:28:12
i hope it will replace 1.6
2011-12-01 09:13:39
why? it's dog shit and nothing like 1.6
2011-12-01 17:34:40
valve had nothing to do with 1.6 and has nothing to do with CSP so they basically dont push CSP cause its a sourceenginemod
2011-12-01 17:56:52
What do you care? 1.6 is dead in the UK.
Post edited 2011-12-02 12:06:23
Post edited 2011-12-02 12:06:23
2011-12-02 12:06:10
who cares man, i don't even play in the main UK league anymore, if i play i play in other tournaments around europe / esea, doesn't mean i still can't continue to play 1.6, theres still 40 teams in the main UK league at the moment also, with quite a few missing as they didn't sign up for it like myself (no prize)
2011-12-02 13:47:20
it's actually impossible that this piece of monkey crap can even compare with CS 1.6
2011-12-01 16:20:34
1.6 forever
CS:GO can replace 1.6 at sponsors, but in players not.
Post edited 2011-12-01 01:34:27
CS:GO can replace 1.6 at sponsors, but in players not.
Post edited 2011-12-01 01:34:27
2011-12-01 01:32:45
If they replace sponsors, they replace players...
2011-12-01 01:39:10
+
2011-12-01 01:46:16
Professionals players, not amateurs, like we =D
2011-12-01 02:03:02
Yes, but will you play a game that no one cares? No.. you will follow the professionals so you can actually earn some money from the game..
2011-12-01 02:25:26
No, I play the game that like me, because I dont play to win money
2011-12-01 02:51:37
You say that now because you haven't experienced it yet. As a North American player who watched all the pro's who were good at 1.6 in North America move onto the CGS with CS:S and then quit when the CGS failed, I can tell you that this game isn't very fun or interesting when nobody is playing it.
This game isn't fun when you play the same teams over and over again and its really not fun when the only competition you have in skill is 2 or 3 teams and then there is the huge gap that separates our good amateur players to the pro players.
This game isn't fun when you play the same teams over and over again and its really not fun when the only competition you have in skill is 2 or 3 teams and then there is the huge gap that separates our good amateur players to the pro players.
2011-12-01 02:58:24
But the amateurs that only play for fun dont interesting what do the pros xD
2011-12-01 13:03:09
But you are an exception then. Some people will stay only for fun but most people will move to follow the pros and try to become like them. No money= no players, its a fact, look what at happened to cod2, sc or warcraft3...
2011-12-01 13:48:26
I dont speak for everyone
Post edited 2011-12-01 14:13:32
Post edited 2011-12-01 14:13:32
2011-12-01 14:13:05
Then shut up :)
2011-12-01 15:12:20
sc is pretty much alive where it always have been, korea.
sc2 is popular cuz americans and some europeans RTS players (outside the pros) like new games, doesnt matter if the game is crap, they just enjoy the hype.
Post edited 2011-12-01 19:19:41
sc2 is popular cuz americans and some europeans RTS players (outside the pros) like new games, doesnt matter if the game is crap, they just enjoy the hype.
Post edited 2011-12-01 19:19:41
2011-12-01 19:19:08
You're a moron.
Most people will try to become pro? No they won't. People play games firstly, for fun. It's the idiots who try and become professional that are the minority.
Oh, and SC still has the most money of any game on the planet. No one even comes close to the salaries of Flash, Jaedong and Bisu.
Most people will try to become pro? No they won't. People play games firstly, for fun. It's the idiots who try and become professional that are the minority.
Oh, and SC still has the most money of any game on the planet. No one even comes close to the salaries of Flash, Jaedong and Bisu.
2011-12-02 12:10:22
K mate.
First, i did not insult so please, do not insult me.
Second, have you ever played 1.6 competetively or any game related, like cod, sc, lol, etc ? If no, shut up. If yes, then you should know that your goal is to be the best,and most people try to be the best. I dont want to become pro, but i play competitively, and where the money goes is where i go. No one wants to play a game where you cant achieve anything. FACT.
Oh really? You are a bit outdated then. No matter how big their salaries are, the sc2 is growing every day and it will become (if not already) bigger than sc. And scenes like LoL, cs 1.6, etc are bigger than SC...
First, i did not insult so please, do not insult me.
Second, have you ever played 1.6 competetively or any game related, like cod, sc, lol, etc ? If no, shut up. If yes, then you should know that your goal is to be the best,and most people try to be the best. I dont want to become pro, but i play competitively, and where the money goes is where i go. No one wants to play a game where you cant achieve anything. FACT.
Oh really? You are a bit outdated then. No matter how big their salaries are, the sc2 is growing every day and it will become (if not already) bigger than sc. And scenes like LoL, cs 1.6, etc are bigger than SC...
2011-12-02 15:37:04
So, u play CS1.6 becouse some team is getting reach playing it, or u play becouse u like to play?
They would have to buy ALL GAMERS to change that my friend.
IF neo forest and markeloff change do CS:GO for money, i will respect them, but i will never watch they playing...
They would have to buy ALL GAMERS to change that my friend.
IF neo forest and markeloff change do CS:GO for money, i will respect them, but i will never watch they playing...
2011-12-01 03:30:32
#233
2011-12-01 13:50:45
They can't replace sponsors if they didn't make players happy with CS:GO
Sponsors aren't silly. They always look the community before their help.
Sponsors aren't silly. They always look the community before their help.
2011-12-01 06:39:37
If sponsors give you a 200000 Euros prize money for a tournament in CS:GO and give you 1000 Euros in a tournament of 1.6, which one will you play? Thats right, CS:GO. Money moves the world, and if they invest hard, eventually most players will move.
2011-12-01 13:50:31
Why sponsors give their money CS:GO instead 1.6?
Has it created for replace 1.6/CS:S? NO
Can it replace 1.6/CS:S? NO
Is it better game ? NO
According to the Valve ;
That's what Counter-Strike is: a game of skill. And this is what CS:GO is: an effort to put anyone who has or should play Counter-Strike into the same game. That's a big enough goal but not a grand enough one to merit the name Counter-Strike 2.
Has it created for replace 1.6/CS:S? NO
Can it replace 1.6/CS:S? NO
Is it better game ? NO
According to the Valve ;
That's what Counter-Strike is: a game of skill. And this is what CS:GO is: an effort to put anyone who has or should play Counter-Strike into the same game. That's a big enough goal but not a grand enough one to merit the name Counter-Strike 2.
2011-12-01 15:12:41
Ahahahaha.
Why sponsors give their money CS:GO instead 1.6?
Better graphics = Better graphic cards/processors/etc = More money.
Has it created for replace 1.6/CS:S? ??? Sure it was, whats the point of creating it and Valve asked for pros opinions? You make no sense.
Can it replace 1.6/CS:S? You cant decide this, sponsors can, they have the money, they control the scene, not you.
Is it better game ? Just because you say so. Its your opinion (although i believe you havent even tried GO). Some people say its better, others dont. Try to make sense please.
Where did you even got that definition from? You cant just make a definition out of your head, say Valve said it and call it a fact.
Open your eyes fanboy. Have an open mind, one day 1.6 will be over. FACT. Maybe that day has come. Who knows? Sponsors who are eager to invest into this game. Not a kid with his opinion like you or me.
Post edited 2011-12-01 16:28:39
Why sponsors give their money CS:GO instead 1.6?
Better graphics = Better graphic cards/processors/etc = More money.
Has it created for replace 1.6/CS:S? ??? Sure it was, whats the point of creating it and Valve asked for pros opinions? You make no sense.
Can it replace 1.6/CS:S? You cant decide this, sponsors can, they have the money, they control the scene, not you.
Is it better game ? Just because you say so. Its your opinion (although i believe you havent even tried GO). Some people say its better, others dont. Try to make sense please.
Where did you even got that definition from? You cant just make a definition out of your head, say Valve said it and call it a fact.
Open your eyes fanboy. Have an open mind, one day 1.6 will be over. FACT. Maybe that day has come. Who knows? Sponsors who are eager to invest into this game. Not a kid with his opinion like you or me.
Post edited 2011-12-01 16:28:39
2011-12-01 16:26:52
Yes, Therefore They're updating CS:SOURCE?
Valve said 'It has not made for replace 1.6/css, it's a completely different game'.
Maybe they will use their opinions for next game? for cs 2?
Quote from Scypher ;
But why would Valve continue to updat cs:s with each update turning into a "1.6 HD" if they already a new title coming up in a few months. This only makes sense if they don't really want to make CS:GO mainstream
Before everything please read this blog then shut up
http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=84405
Post edited 2011-12-01 17:47:30
Valve said 'It has not made for replace 1.6/css, it's a completely different game'.
Maybe they will use their opinions for next game? for cs 2?
Quote from Scypher ;
But why would Valve continue to updat cs:s with each update turning into a "1.6 HD" if they already a new title coming up in a few months. This only makes sense if they don't really want to make CS:GO mainstream
Before everything please read this blog then shut up
http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=84405
Post edited 2011-12-01 17:47:30
2011-12-01 17:44:11
Rofl, why there is so much mediatism about this game? If its only about the fun, it wouldnt have so many things about.. Pros opinions, so much secretism, open-beta... Really? You think its only for fun? This game has come to replace CSS and 1.6 and if continues in this path, it will replace for sure. CS 2? This is CS 2 you moron.
You havent aswered any single argument of mine, therefore i wont even open that link.
Have a good afternoon in TURKEY.
You havent aswered any single argument of mine, therefore i wont even open that link.
Have a good afternoon in TURKEY.
2011-12-01 17:50:38
Did u seen the changes of NY and the Beta now? they did basically nothing the game is to be honest weaker than back then..
also you say its CS 2..CS:GO never been released to be the next 1.6 cause 1.6 has nothing to do with valve..its just a wishthinking of valve to create a community out of the two CS generations..
also this game will be playable on consoles and there are more console gamers then actually PC gamers thats the trend wich is going on so where they need a good graphiccard to play it? someone out there can buy a playstation 3 instead of a good graphiccard so where is the "marketing aspect"
the thing wich is true they know COD and BF are popular games and now they wanna go with the flow and try to sell a game with the title "CS" and everyone is like "oh they invite professional gamers" they do it cause they need to include the "community" into that game cause they basicall ruined CS:S and split up the communitys back then..
look at CSP its nowaydays far better than CS;GO is and its getting pushed by private publishers look what VALVE made out of..everytime if valve works on a "CS" its getting bad
also you say its CS 2..CS:GO never been released to be the next 1.6 cause 1.6 has nothing to do with valve..its just a wishthinking of valve to create a community out of the two CS generations..
also this game will be playable on consoles and there are more console gamers then actually PC gamers thats the trend wich is going on so where they need a good graphiccard to play it? someone out there can buy a playstation 3 instead of a good graphiccard so where is the "marketing aspect"
the thing wich is true they know COD and BF are popular games and now they wanna go with the flow and try to sell a game with the title "CS" and everyone is like "oh they invite professional gamers" they do it cause they need to include the "community" into that game cause they basicall ruined CS:S and split up the communitys back then..
look at CSP its nowaydays far better than CS;GO is and its getting pushed by private publishers look what VALVE made out of..everytime if valve works on a "CS" its getting bad
2011-12-01 18:06:52
Did u seen the changes of NY and the Beta now? they did basically nothing the game is to be honest weaker than back then..
Thats not what the pro's are saying on facebook :)
Thats not what the pro's are saying on facebook :)
2011-12-01 19:36:17
You're just dreaming. this's cs2, has come to replace .., you got nothing to prove.
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2011-12-01 20:51:20
Cool. Tell me how is to be raped? :D
2011-12-01 21:34:37
nvm its over
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2011-12-01 01:34:40
It is terrible ;) spray and bursts are sooo random and bad... movement is not ok yet. grenades are ok...
2011-12-01 01:35:24
I like that MVP script for most frags in each round, but it's so not-colorful...It's more like CoD
2011-12-01 01:41:56
I agree, its terrible but the thing we have to remember is that its fixable. People are making the comparison of CS:GO to CS:S, and its understandable why you would but we have to remember that CS:S wasn't a competitively fueled game. What CS:S was, was a Valve showcasing the Source engine and its capabilities for modders. They never released CS:S and said that they would make a competitive game and they never tried to communicate with the competitive community like they are with CS:GO.
As a person who has been playing CS:GO, I agree, it has a looooong fucking ways to go but its very doable. It just needs the support.
As a person who has been playing CS:GO, I agree, it has a looooong fucking ways to go but its very doable. It just needs the support.
2011-12-01 03:00:23
Played in CS:GO a better understand that 1.6 is not present, but it is so TeamFortes
2011-12-01 01:35:27
i wanan play :S i need a key
2011-12-01 01:41:54
wtf he always hits him with awp and he doesnt die, fail
2011-12-01 01:42:51
please don't tell me they're planing on doing the same thing as BF3 for dedicated servers :(/&/%"!#!"(¤)/#!/&!"
2011-12-01 01:44:42
Quite sure its only for casual/match making mode, not sure though.
2011-12-01 01:45:33
what it is about?
2011-12-01 01:48:21
Q) Can I host my own dedicated server?
A) Not at this stage in the beta. The full version of CSGO will allow community run dedicated servers on both Windows and Linux.
http://www.counter-strike.net/index.php/facts/
A) Not at this stage in the beta. The full version of CSGO will allow community run dedicated servers on both Windows and Linux.
http://www.counter-strike.net/index.php/facts/
2011-12-01 02:01:24
The game sux, end of story.
2011-12-01 01:45:24
Do u even have the beta key. most of the beta key holders say they love the game !
2011-12-01 01:47:30
As a person who has a beta key and has been playing, I will say that the game is in a bad place right now. The recoil is all over the place and its actually harder to shoot than in 1.6 in my opinion and the visual effects get in the way a lot of the time. The movement, in terms of running, feels faster than Source but slower than 1.6 and it feels imprecise. Maybe I need to play more and I just don't understand the engine yet but I don't feel like I can ever accomplish the things I could in 1.6.
With that said, I haven't run into anything that isn't fixable. This game has potential, it just needs a lot of work. I'm not saying it needs a lot of work to become 1.6, I'm saying it needs a lot of work to become a good competitive game. There are a lot of things it does different than 1.6 and Source and I think they should remain. For example, moving with your scope up blurs your vision and the initial time that you put your crosshair up, your vision is blurred and this makes quickscoping difficult. You're probably saying to yourself that it sounds awful, in fact the first time you play and its like that you will probably hate it and shout how awful it is but its actually a good balancing feature for snipers. It doesn't prevent you from quick scoping but it makes it harder.
With that said, I haven't run into anything that isn't fixable. This game has potential, it just needs a lot of work. I'm not saying it needs a lot of work to become 1.6, I'm saying it needs a lot of work to become a good competitive game. There are a lot of things it does different than 1.6 and Source and I think they should remain. For example, moving with your scope up blurs your vision and the initial time that you put your crosshair up, your vision is blurred and this makes quickscoping difficult. You're probably saying to yourself that it sounds awful, in fact the first time you play and its like that you will probably hate it and shout how awful it is but its actually a good balancing feature for snipers. It doesn't prevent you from quick scoping but it makes it harder.
2011-12-01 03:04:57
enough with the troll drama sir.
2011-12-01 03:17:14
No trolling going on here chum! The game at its core has some real potential and can become a great game on its own, it just needs a ton of work and support from the community. In other words, if the competitive gamers that Valve is targetting do nothing but attack it and never give it a chance then it will never have a chance.
I have a lot of faith in Valve as a developer but I cant comprehend why a developer would try and mold a game into being competitive when the competitive scene will attack it regardless of whether its good or not.
The game is in a bad place right now but I think we as 1.6'ers need to have an open mind and we need to try and give it a chance if we want to see it go anywhere. I think a lot of 1.6ers made the same mistake with CSP and the dev team pretty much quit the project because it was frustrating to put work into a project and get attacked by the very people you were trying to help. Hopefully we as a community have learned from our mistakes and can extend our hand to whoever is willing to help us keep what Counter-Strike is alive.
I have a lot of faith in Valve as a developer but I cant comprehend why a developer would try and mold a game into being competitive when the competitive scene will attack it regardless of whether its good or not.
The game is in a bad place right now but I think we as 1.6'ers need to have an open mind and we need to try and give it a chance if we want to see it go anywhere. I think a lot of 1.6ers made the same mistake with CSP and the dev team pretty much quit the project because it was frustrating to put work into a project and get attacked by the very people you were trying to help. Hopefully we as a community have learned from our mistakes and can extend our hand to whoever is willing to help us keep what Counter-Strike is alive.
2011-12-01 04:17:19
+1 thats the whole aim of beta version, based on all your input valve will definitely change, m sure Counter-Strike is the only game which can ever challenge Activison's COD and WOW series[if CS:GO nails it]. Hopefully valve changes as much as possible , lets not forget this is source engine. im ready to sacrifice a little of 1.6 feel in the view that ill be having a whole lot of new / casual players playing this game, getting pro, coming to lan, forming a clan and more servers and tournaments and all :) , if this fails , sure so does 1.6 :(. and yes ive been playing 1.6 for 8 years..Like u said, valve is trying hard and we shall make sure we give them support from gaming community :)
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2011-12-01 14:22:46
i has a beta key and i can say
THIS GAME IS FUCKING GOOD
THIS GAME IS FUCKING GOOD
2011-12-01 01:46:17
+1. The game rocks. ! <3
2011-12-01 01:47:42
1.6 perfect game.
2011-12-01 01:47:39
i have one key but i cant play =/
it looks unvaliable in MyGames at my steam account..
it looks unvaliable in MyGames at my steam account..
2011-12-01 01:48:01
I hope it doesn't replace 1.6 but I hope it gets a good following so cs doesn't die.
2011-12-01 01:49:47
CSPromod is waaaay more better as a game!
2011-12-01 01:55:16
Ofc, nothing will replace to this source game with call of duty MOD. /delete
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2011-12-01 01:56:04
i will try it for sure,,, but 1.6 will never die, all the promod and cs:go and all that will never reach half of the players than 1.6.... well we will se in 10 years , : ))... it wold be like all the kids now playng mario on nintendo 64.. xD !!!
2011-12-01 02:00:43
Great this will split the 1.6 and source players even more.
2011-12-01 02:03:03
Haha?
2011-12-01 02:05:13
nop... it will only split source players
1.6 players will stay on
1.6 players will stay on
2011-12-01 04:13:28
Rofl, dream on fanboy.
2011-12-01 16:29:28
Valve should just look on this page HLTV, any game has that extensive community like 1.6,make 1 milion $ tour, and bring back shine real CS :D
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2011-12-01 02:06:49
We dont want remake of CSS we want remake of 1.6 !!! When i see how flashes fly... i realy understand that this game SUX ......
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2011-12-01 02:11:54
Hate posts before the game is even released is plain stupid. Wait, and we could see something better that CS. Yeah, evolution does exist.
2011-12-01 02:11:55
Can't wait to try it.
GL VALVE
GL VALVE
2011-12-01 02:14:17
played it and liked it, better than source so far
2011-12-01 02:29:07
Is it better than 1.6? That's what matters for us..
2011-12-01 03:33:21
if you have got a key, give some feedback in the comments please.
2011-12-01 02:32:08
i has a key.
you cant wallbang in this game,dont waste your bullets.
spraying is not good as in cs 1.6
when you get flashed,its same as Call of Duty's flashs..
awp is so good.
i like all maps.
also players like cArn,getright hyping so much for csGO.I played with SK's manager greykan.
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you cant wallbang in this game,dont waste your bullets.
spraying is not good as in cs 1.6
when you get flashed,its same as Call of Duty's flashs..
awp is so good.
i like all maps.
also players like cArn,getright hyping so much for csGO.I played with SK's manager greykan.
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2011-12-01 02:42:55
in this state of the beta, i cant rather see lot of 1.6 nor css. The game looks like a casual shooter ala COD or BF right now. Also the things i love most in cs 1.6 (wallbang) is disabled. pretty sad, but i guess valve tries to make a lot of money with this game and steal some players from cod and bf instead of supporting their community. But again, its a very early stage of the beta and i hope they will read their community feedback. In my Opinion f.e. the ak is like 10 times more powerful than the m4 :/ And the AWP, sometimes i feel like markeloff, cos its quite easy to hit people while moving :)
Also the maps are a little overwhelmed with boxes and stuff, and sometimes its hard to recognize enemys models. Its a quite early stage of the game right now, but i would suggest to play CS:ProMod instead.
Also the maps are a little overwhelmed with boxes and stuff, and sometimes its hard to recognize enemys models. Its a quite early stage of the game right now, but i would suggest to play CS:ProMod instead.
2011-12-01 14:57:27
do not stick to 1.6, let's try cs.go and make it better!
2011-12-01 02:39:15
Stick to 1.6 to correct your comment.
2011-12-01 02:40:33
also in csgo there is a another grenade called as
"Monotov"
so goooooooooooood~~
"Monotov"
so goooooooooooood~~
2011-12-01 02:41:13
1.6 for pro tournaments, cs:go for kids and new adult gaming players
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2011-12-01 02:52:20
Just played it and it feels like source. So I think we are going to stick by 1.6 for now :].
2011-12-01 03:13:50
where did you get the key?
2011-12-01 03:20:35
he played on eswc paris.. every player on the cs 1.6 compo get one for free
2011-12-01 12:41:33
I quite like it, good fun. Movement feels awkward and a bit slidy though. Guess it's the source engine I have a problem with.
The recoil with the m4 right now is ridiculous. You can empty an entire clip into an enemy from 3 feet away and miss every bullet.
It's all fixable though, it'll be interesting to see how it progresses.
The recoil with the m4 right now is ridiculous. You can empty an entire clip into an enemy from 3 feet away and miss every bullet.
It's all fixable though, it'll be interesting to see how it progresses.
2011-12-01 03:39:11
this game is very bad, cs1.6 overcomes !
2011-12-01 03:47:19
I see more comment from those who already played it =) seems to be like $h1t~ =) so 1.6 ftw. thx guys for feedback, we wait for more comments.
2011-12-01 03:59:01
1 more point:
I'd love to know which idiot at Valve decided it would be a good idea to ONLY include DE_DUST in the beta as a playable map.
There's a reason it never gets used in 1.6 or source. It's a fucking one sided pile of shit.
I'd love to know which idiot at Valve decided it would be a good idea to ONLY include DE_DUST in the beta as a playable map.
There's a reason it never gets used in 1.6 or source. It's a fucking one sided pile of shit.
2011-12-01 04:05:19
indeed but they changed the map and added a few new ways. dunno how this effects the map
2011-12-01 10:31:28
this.
starix changed status to CS:GO SUCKS! 1 day ago
starix changed status to CS:GO SUCKS! 1 day ago
2011-12-01 04:12:04
:D
<3 starix
<3 starix
2011-12-01 05:00:48
Okay i just played 2 matches of this game(60 minutes)and i can say this:
The AWP is like....crazy. Even while moving.
The AK is fucking strong
The M4 is fucking weak
the UMP is still useless
i never needed a side arm
the grenades don't do ANYTHING
Smoke is alright - much better then 1.6 in density
The strafe is like iceskating on the moon.
I get the map is called dust, but jesus christ i don't need to see it all the time.
There is stuff around the map, but it's not like other modern games where that shit it just EVERYWHERE. IT definately should be cleaned up too.
I couldn't get into a match that was d2 so idk what i can say about that.
Games is MILES ahead of source in terms of quality and still a ways away from 1.6.
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The AWP is like....crazy. Even while moving.
The AK is fucking strong
The M4 is fucking weak
the UMP is still useless
i never needed a side arm
the grenades don't do ANYTHING
Smoke is alright - much better then 1.6 in density
The strafe is like iceskating on the moon.
I get the map is called dust, but jesus christ i don't need to see it all the time.
There is stuff around the map, but it's not like other modern games where that shit it just EVERYWHERE. IT definately should be cleaned up too.
I couldn't get into a match that was d2 so idk what i can say about that.
Games is MILES ahead of source in terms of quality and still a ways away from 1.6.
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2011-12-01 04:49:46
"Games is MILES ahead of source in terms of quality and still a ways away from 1.6."
haha i thought this post was supposed to be serious and then i read that
haha i thought this post was supposed to be serious and then i read that
2011-12-01 05:18:27
You clearly never played the game or hate it unquestioningly.
2011-12-01 06:26:12
from the complaints ive read about csgo, css is far superior. You dont have to think like a retard forever you know. You dont have to make shit up about a game you dont like just because you dont like it.
lose the blinders m8
lose the blinders m8
2011-12-01 06:43:05
Bro, i played CSS for a solid 2 years when all my heros left 1.6 for the CGS. It's better then it was at launch but the game has some MAJOR flaws in both maps, hitboxes, recoil, weapon balance, and physics.
How can you say that CSS isn't terrible when AK47 is FAR AND AWAY the best gun in the game? Or how about how the hitboxes are so large that when you shoot somebody in the upper chest you got a headshot regardless? or How about how the barrels and other debri ACTUALLY PREVENTED YOU FROM DEFUSING THE BOMB OR PICKING UP THE BOMB IF THEY WERE OVER IT?
Or how about how the M4 is effectively worthless and you should trade it in once you get a kill for the AK, because it's effectively worthless. Or how about you can't shoot through a god damn inch wide wooden door?
Or how about you can actually bunny hop from one side to another in like a second and a half and actually beat your opponent to their side of the map basically no matter what. Seriously you can say that i don't like the game - which is true - but you can't say i don't not like it for good reasons.
How can you say that CSS isn't terrible when AK47 is FAR AND AWAY the best gun in the game? Or how about how the hitboxes are so large that when you shoot somebody in the upper chest you got a headshot regardless? or How about how the barrels and other debri ACTUALLY PREVENTED YOU FROM DEFUSING THE BOMB OR PICKING UP THE BOMB IF THEY WERE OVER IT?
Or how about how the M4 is effectively worthless and you should trade it in once you get a kill for the AK, because it's effectively worthless. Or how about you can't shoot through a god damn inch wide wooden door?
Or how about you can actually bunny hop from one side to another in like a second and a half and actually beat your opponent to their side of the map basically no matter what. Seriously you can say that i don't like the game - which is true - but you can't say i don't not like it for good reasons.
2011-12-01 06:52:26
Not to get too heavily involved here, but pretty sure he was just saying that CSS is a superior game to CS:GO right now. He didn't say that CSS isn't terrible.
In fairness, the comments you cite for CSS with regards to physics, recoil, weapon balance and hitboxes are far more true for CS:GO than CSS right now. At least CSS has had several years to iron them out and I don't think anyone can genuinely claim these dimensions are sharp and finished for the new game.
In fairness, the comments you cite for CSS with regards to physics, recoil, weapon balance and hitboxes are far more true for CS:GO than CSS right now. At least CSS has had several years to iron them out and I don't think anyone can genuinely claim these dimensions are sharp and finished for the new game.
2011-12-01 07:26:38
haha i thought this post was supposed to be serious and then i read that
"How about how the barrels and other debri ACTUALLY PREVENTED YOU FROM DEFUSING THE BOMB OR PICKING UP THE BOMB IF THEY WERE OVER IT"
"how about you can't shoot through a god damn inch wide wooden door?"
"bunnyhop"
"How about how the barrels and other debri ACTUALLY PREVENTED YOU FROM DEFUSING THE BOMB OR PICKING UP THE BOMB IF THEY WERE OVER IT"
"how about you can't shoot through a god damn inch wide wooden door?"
"bunnyhop"
2011-12-01 08:21:34
well the problem was already in source with the crap/stuff on the map.
2011-12-01 10:33:53
How stupid can people be to say the game sucks without trying it out...
2011-12-01 05:41:33
in fact, 80% of people that posted shits here, played it already and said that it sucks. the other 20% it's hoping that shitty game to not replace 1.6...and how do you know that somebody talk and not tried it already? smart dumbass
2011-12-01 06:01:56
No, 80% of the people who has posted here hasnt played the game, its not hard to tell, they just blindly say 1.6 4eva..
Everyone i have asked who has played the game, say it has potential...
Also, insulting me wont prove your point right, just saying...
Everyone i have asked who has played the game, say it has potential...
Also, insulting me wont prove your point right, just saying...
2011-12-01 06:56:47
Well in fact, 100% sure that you made that 80% thing from your head. Making up arguments doesnt make them facts.
2011-12-01 16:30:40
I think that valve must solve some bugs that lies within cs 1.6 rather than making these kind of games!
2011-12-01 06:24:42
CS:GO FAIL
2011-12-01 06:33:19
They don't care about you. You are nothing for them.
2011-12-01 06:56:21
+1
2011-12-01 11:26:32
The graphics are not everything
2011-12-01 07:10:14
i think that hltv.org will migrate soon, because if CS 1.6 will die in 11 months (random number), hltv.org will die two times faster ;)
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2011-12-01 07:16:30
just seen a recap ...oh boy plz dont tell me this tracer amo is really in the game.... plz someone go tell valve assaultrilfes have no tracer amo...
and the molotov should be a new tactical element. i predict when this game goes competitive, this will lead to ULAME tactical situation that were not thought of (for ex: retakes, when u can bascically block a whole way to the bombsite with this)
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and the molotov should be a new tactical element. i predict when this game goes competitive, this will lead to ULAME tactical situation that were not thought of (for ex: retakes, when u can bascically block a whole way to the bombsite with this)
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2011-12-01 08:08:20
as i've seen it molotov only deals about 30 damage to cross through, i see that as a fair tactical element, forcing an opponent to take of 30health to pass through an area.
2011-12-01 14:24:26
and if there is more than one does it still deal the same dmg?
let me give you an example: i planted the bomb and we got 1o1... mate tells me he awped you in the leg... so i can completly close 1 way to the bombsite just with the moltov...
i am sure there are a lot of examples like this,... i am not sure wether i like this new "tactical" possibility
let me give you an example: i planted the bomb and we got 1o1... mate tells me he awped you in the leg... so i can completly close 1 way to the bombsite just with the moltov...
i am sure there are a lot of examples like this,... i am not sure wether i like this new "tactical" possibility
2011-12-01 17:21:42
Everything that needs cs 1.6 is better graphics
2011-12-01 08:15:43
As much as we all hate it 1.6 isnt going to last forever.
When CSGO comes to retail this is where the prize money will be, all your favorite CS stars will go to CSGO or quit gaming.
When CSGO comes to retail this is where the prize money will be, all your favorite CS stars will go to CSGO or quit gaming.
2011-12-01 08:19:32
give us promod not csgo
2011-12-01 08:21:19
You guys are unbelievable. Why do you guys hate any game that isn't 1.6? I think as far as Source is concerned everyone hated it because they didn't want to ditch out extra money to buy a better computer, but this CS:GO hate is unfounded. Here are the facts:
1) None of you will ever be good at CS 1.6 no matter how much you play it. None of you will be at the professional tournaments in a position to win anything. The 1.6 elite is a very small group. You have a better chance at being good in a new game.
2) CS:GO has Valve's full support. They delayed the release of the BETA after allowing all professional players around the world play it and give their feedback! VALVE wants a multiplayer FPS to compete with Call of Duty/Battlefield because it brings in the big bucks. Why don't you think CS:GO will only get better?
3) CS:GO isn't even a terrible game. The game is fun and has a lot of elements of 1.6 counter-strike. However, you guys will still find small flaws and label the game terrible. A bad element of a complex system is not indicative of the overall quality as a whole.
4) 1.6 is dead. I have played this game since 2003 and the game is way past its peak. I know it is hard to move on, but some of you just have to accept this reality. Source is dead as well. Sure there are 1.6 tournaments all over the world but the amount of HLTV spectators, competitive players, and people who have a general interest in this game is non-existent. No good players that played professionally since the beginning (2000) are even around anymore with very few exceptions such as lurppis. People move on and technology changes, Counter-Strike is due for the same.
Just give it a chance, please. I would hate to see the community die off as Call of Duty and Battlefield progress in graphics AND gameplay.
1) None of you will ever be good at CS 1.6 no matter how much you play it. None of you will be at the professional tournaments in a position to win anything. The 1.6 elite is a very small group. You have a better chance at being good in a new game.
2) CS:GO has Valve's full support. They delayed the release of the BETA after allowing all professional players around the world play it and give their feedback! VALVE wants a multiplayer FPS to compete with Call of Duty/Battlefield because it brings in the big bucks. Why don't you think CS:GO will only get better?
3) CS:GO isn't even a terrible game. The game is fun and has a lot of elements of 1.6 counter-strike. However, you guys will still find small flaws and label the game terrible. A bad element of a complex system is not indicative of the overall quality as a whole.
4) 1.6 is dead. I have played this game since 2003 and the game is way past its peak. I know it is hard to move on, but some of you just have to accept this reality. Source is dead as well. Sure there are 1.6 tournaments all over the world but the amount of HLTV spectators, competitive players, and people who have a general interest in this game is non-existent. No good players that played professionally since the beginning (2000) are even around anymore with very few exceptions such as lurppis. People move on and technology changes, Counter-Strike is due for the same.
Just give it a chance, please. I would hate to see the community die off as Call of Duty and Battlefield progress in graphics AND gameplay.
2011-12-01 08:34:51
Clap, clap
Haters, read this!
Haters, read this!
2011-12-01 09:36:35
So, you have really healthy opinion about cs:go, but let me explain something. Perhaps the game could be a good product. But there is no game, wich can replace 1.6. At this stage, cs:go can't became such good tournament discipline as 1.6.
2011-12-01 11:34:59
Duuude, they're hatin' CS:GO just because it is like COD, battlefield..They want a game with the same...how can I say... with the same recoil as 1.6.The question is, you do not need have skill to play a game with a bugged recoil such as CS:GO.
Edit: Molotov sucks!
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Edit: Molotov sucks!
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2011-12-01 11:39:11
1) since when do we all play a game to become the best? Personally I just play because I really like the game :)
Atm I really hate CS:GO, its utter shit. Laggy gameplay, no way to play with friends etc.
Atm I really hate CS:GO, its utter shit. Laggy gameplay, no way to play with friends etc.
2011-12-01 18:16:56
I'll preface this by saying I also think it's way to early to start shutting out CSGO as a potentially good game. But, I don't agree with your points.
1) Your argument here is it is better to be good at a lesser game than try to get good at a better game. Everyone here might as well quit cs 1.6 and play any other game at all in that case.
2) CSS had Valve's full support. CSS was not good enough to replace 1.6, but Valve's support was enough to make a lot of players play it, which lead to the biggest fragmentation of the community. Thus, having Valve's support is not in itself a good thing. You also argue here that Valve wants CSGO to compete and be better than COD/BF, but surely the devs of COD & BF wanted it to be better than 1.6 to get those players, yet they weren't; so, because they want it to be better does not mean it will be in the eyes of 1.6 players.
3) I haven't played it so won't comment one way or another. I agree that there have been a lot of comments about stuff common to all betas, little things that will be tweaked as the game goes on. Then again, it's important to mention them so that the devs realize them to make sure they are fixed.
4) 1.6 has been thought dead a long time. It's still not dead. There is no reason to move on until there's a worthy successor. The argument that one should move on regardless of whether there is a successor is a poor one IMO.
1) Your argument here is it is better to be good at a lesser game than try to get good at a better game. Everyone here might as well quit cs 1.6 and play any other game at all in that case.
2) CSS had Valve's full support. CSS was not good enough to replace 1.6, but Valve's support was enough to make a lot of players play it, which lead to the biggest fragmentation of the community. Thus, having Valve's support is not in itself a good thing. You also argue here that Valve wants CSGO to compete and be better than COD/BF, but surely the devs of COD & BF wanted it to be better than 1.6 to get those players, yet they weren't; so, because they want it to be better does not mean it will be in the eyes of 1.6 players.
3) I haven't played it so won't comment one way or another. I agree that there have been a lot of comments about stuff common to all betas, little things that will be tweaked as the game goes on. Then again, it's important to mention them so that the devs realize them to make sure they are fixed.
4) 1.6 has been thought dead a long time. It's still not dead. There is no reason to move on until there's a worthy successor. The argument that one should move on regardless of whether there is a successor is a poor one IMO.
2011-12-01 20:08:55
Anyone who is asking Valve to conform to a 12 year old game is doing their favorite game a disservice. If you are in your 20s and playing CS1.6, why are you demanding that Valve make their game just like your outdated game when they are making the game for a new generation? Do you care only about yourself, or do you care about the game surviving past the next year?
You probably won't be playing CS in a year but this is the chance for a new generation of players to discover the joy of a competitive team shooter. Just give Valve the chance and the input to make it a great game, and don't bitch and moan like the community did when Source came out. This time we can give input so we should take the opportunity.
This is CS's last chance. Like it or not, either this succeeds, or CS disappears from the Earth in a few years.
You probably won't be playing CS in a year but this is the chance for a new generation of players to discover the joy of a competitive team shooter. Just give Valve the chance and the input to make it a great game, and don't bitch and moan like the community did when Source came out. This time we can give input so we should take the opportunity.
This is CS's last chance. Like it or not, either this succeeds, or CS disappears from the Earth in a few years.
2011-12-01 08:54:42
"You probably won't be playing CS in a year"
2001: 1.3 comes out: Restricted bunny hopping: "CS is dead"
2002: 1.4/1.5 comes out: "Can't jump and shoot with every pistol anymore?!?! More bunny hopping restrictions?!?! Game is dead"
2003: 1.6/steam comes out: "Shield!!!?!?! New Guns?!?! Mp5 sucks?!?! Now it's dead"
2004: CSS comes out: "Source Engine? 1.6 dead in a year"
2011: CSGO beta out: "1.6 dead in a year"
meanwhile OG CS is still the top played steam game
a decade of calling the game dead and people still don't realize it won't be that easy
2001: 1.3 comes out: Restricted bunny hopping: "CS is dead"
2002: 1.4/1.5 comes out: "Can't jump and shoot with every pistol anymore?!?! More bunny hopping restrictions?!?! Game is dead"
2003: 1.6/steam comes out: "Shield!!!?!?! New Guns?!?! Mp5 sucks?!?! Now it's dead"
2004: CSS comes out: "Source Engine? 1.6 dead in a year"
2011: CSGO beta out: "1.6 dead in a year"
meanwhile OG CS is still the top played steam game
a decade of calling the game dead and people still don't realize it won't be that easy
2011-12-01 20:27:13
In my opinion.
The question about whether or not cs 1.6 is dying, depends a lot about are we talking about professional gaming or amateur gaming.
What comes to professional gaming it is certain that valve did not make cs:go just for fun. They are going to make sure that people are going to play it aswell.
That said, valve will surely support professional gaming tournaments that will replace cs 1.6 with cs:go. Also tournament organizers depend a lot from sponsor money, which naturally are companies that promote new hardware and gaming equipment.Seems logical that those sponsors will gladly sponsor a tournament with newer games to sell new components and hardware. If you look it like that, valve and tournament organizers will replace cs 1.6 with cs:go in order to make profit. This will propably be the end of the professional cs 1.6 scene.
Amateur gaming is different. If the community is ready to play the game without tournaments and a professional scene, then 1.6 will survive as long as there are people playing the game.
The question about whether or not cs 1.6 is dying, depends a lot about are we talking about professional gaming or amateur gaming.
What comes to professional gaming it is certain that valve did not make cs:go just for fun. They are going to make sure that people are going to play it aswell.
That said, valve will surely support professional gaming tournaments that will replace cs 1.6 with cs:go. Also tournament organizers depend a lot from sponsor money, which naturally are companies that promote new hardware and gaming equipment.Seems logical that those sponsors will gladly sponsor a tournament with newer games to sell new components and hardware. If you look it like that, valve and tournament organizers will replace cs 1.6 with cs:go in order to make profit. This will propably be the end of the professional cs 1.6 scene.
Amateur gaming is different. If the community is ready to play the game without tournaments and a professional scene, then 1.6 will survive as long as there are people playing the game.
2011-12-01 09:02:15
all the HLTV IPs on here in 8 months time from now will all be CS:GO, should be good
2011-12-01 09:26:16
valve needs new engine for cs. we know how this cs go will fail. it will be the same as for css they need 2-3years more to make it stable(playable). even after that it sucks thanks to source engine. css failed dods failed all the mods for hl2 failed, they are fun to play but unplayble for professional gaming.
2011-12-01 09:45:01
ok... i lost 30 minutes to try this game..
1 word
CSS2
1 word
CSS2
2011-12-01 09:46:32
CS 1.6 forever!!!
2011-12-01 10:20:09
FUCK CS GO
2011-12-01 10:20:10
+1
2011-12-01 11:23:19
and where are the tons of beta keys on hltv wich nixon promised?
its like every community site just good a few ones
Post edited 2011-12-01 10:30:27
its like every community site just good a few ones
Post edited 2011-12-01 10:30:27
2011-12-01 10:30:01
;x
2011-12-01 10:36:26
wtf where i can download cs:go?
2011-12-01 10:57:32
from steam if u have a key
2011-12-01 11:16:50
don't called GO counter-strike!!! GO not counter-strike. GO shit, Valve epic degenerates.
2011-12-01 11:25:35
Ohh man 1.6 fanatics are so blind it hurts to see..
2011-12-01 11:29:42
You're wrong. We are objective, even too much. At 1.6 has everything: history, teamplay, fans, organizations, tournaments, the atmosphere, the soul in the end. For this we love counter-strike. For a unique teamplay, for simplicity, for simple radar, for instant flash grenades, for normal animation, rather than running around with bags by shit. 1.6 is very harmonious and enjoyable team game. All this and never will be a GO. Valve shit on people's opinions. They need just a little update card tournament, in line with the spirit of the times so to speak, that is, cosmetically upgrade and all!!! They rowed the money with a shovel, which is very much want to. But they are dumb, deaf, blind, soulless morons. There seemed no one was left out of the team 1.6 creators.
Until all. And please, do not call GO by counter-strike.
Post edited 2011-12-01 11:52:52
Until all. And please, do not call GO by counter-strike.
Post edited 2011-12-01 11:52:52
2011-12-01 11:45:08
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. "Billy Madison"
You people just dont realize valve DOESNT WANT TO REPLACE 1.6! Jesus christ is it so hard to understand? They want to provide a new counter strike experience to people, thats it!
You people just dont realize valve DOESNT WANT TO REPLACE 1.6! Jesus christ is it so hard to understand? They want to provide a new counter strike experience to people, thats it!
2011-12-01 15:01:56
not only does 1.6 have "history, teamplay, fans, organizations, tournaments, the atmosphere, the soul in the end," its also got the largest group of mind numbingly short sighted retards ever.
Youre never going to get a game like 1.6 ever again. As technology and PC power increases, so will the complexity of the games. No one aside from 3rd parties will make a 1.6 mod ever again. Youre soon going to be reflecting on the good old days of 1.6 like source players reflect on the CGS era.
evolveeeeeeeeeeee
Youre never going to get a game like 1.6 ever again. As technology and PC power increases, so will the complexity of the games. No one aside from 3rd parties will make a 1.6 mod ever again. Youre soon going to be reflecting on the good old days of 1.6 like source players reflect on the CGS era.
evolveeeeeeeeeeee
2011-12-01 22:21:21
My god, I just played CSGO for 1 hour. What a broken and shitty game. There is absolute no way it will replace 1.6, no way.
1.6 is just the only good and adequate CS version for competitive play these days.
When they release something better than 1.6, we might give it a try, but how do they expect us to move on, when they keep releasing shitty versions of the game, like CSS and CSGO?
1.6 is just the superior counter-strike.
1.6 is just the only good and adequate CS version for competitive play these days.
When they release something better than 1.6, we might give it a try, but how do they expect us to move on, when they keep releasing shitty versions of the game, like CSS and CSGO?
1.6 is just the superior counter-strike.
2011-12-01 11:35:02
Via : K.Gw HAHA ! :)
2011-12-01 11:44:09
I hope CSGO is more likely to CSP, not Scource!!!
But Valve never cares about CSP
But Valve never cares about CSP
2011-12-01 11:51:05
We are hungry for beta keys! =)
2011-12-01 12:02:49
nothing
2011-12-01 12:04:26
Quite sad that Valve doesnt help the CSP guys, if they would, CSP would dominate everything
2011-12-01 12:21:23
Its like with new films, script 1% effects 99% -> gameplay 1% graphics 99%...
1. Make noob friendly game
2. Name it after famous "cousin"
3. ???????
4. Profit
1. Make noob friendly game
2. Name it after famous "cousin"
3. ???????
4. Profit
2011-12-01 12:34:29
+100500
2011-12-01 17:01:32
Why do you want CS:GO to fail? I just don't understand. The game in BETA mode and they are modifying it as they see it. They even organized matches between the best teams in the world (like Na'Vi and fnatic) and took their opionions. They're, probabily, making changes to look like CS 1.6, with amazing graphics.
I think if they REALLY listen the community, they might have a WINNER. They should hand out BETA keys to every single CS 1.6 player (casual and pros) and collect feedback. I don't know why they're aren't doing this, but this is basic from product development.
Believe me, I am excited with the molotof, decoy grenade, shock weapon and the general look of the game, but they need to make changes and they the COMMUNITY to do it.
I think if they REALLY listen the community, they might have a WINNER. They should hand out BETA keys to every single CS 1.6 player (casual and pros) and collect feedback. I don't know why they're aren't doing this, but this is basic from product development.
Believe me, I am excited with the molotof, decoy grenade, shock weapon and the general look of the game, but they need to make changes and they the COMMUNITY to do it.
2011-12-01 12:45:36
i hope this game succeeds! 1.6 really is getting smaller and smaller :)
2011-12-01 12:47:01
i've played 1.6 for five years, and here is my opinion:
moving to source engine is inevitable anyways, so helping the csgo devteam is the only logic way to keep the competitive cs alive. The community must be loyal to the values of sponsors and the growing gamers community that not even interested in cybersport. The original counter strike was not conceived competitive, and it became genius because of the ideas and thoughts of the developers. But now they're fuckin screwed up because csgo it is not an art, it's is a bullshit based on a brilliant idea. SO:
1.There must be a balance between the size of a map, the size of a player model and the speed of movement first of all. Maps are too small right now, and it is why it can't be competitive yet. The game should be HARD to play, it should be challenging, the psychology of a gamer should be considerated. And ofcourse the architecture of maps just suck, it is not interesting, it's simple and piled up with garbage.
2.CS 1.6 sizes are like golden ratio for gamers if developers will use it, it will have succes.
Their work on new strafes and weapon characteristics are based on gameplay they created in cs:s, it is wittingly wrong. The engine is fine, the ARCHITECTURE is not, think about it.
3. Imo, it will be successful just in case if they will follow the bases of original counter strike.
Post edited 2011-12-01 13:14:35
moving to source engine is inevitable anyways, so helping the csgo devteam is the only logic way to keep the competitive cs alive. The community must be loyal to the values of sponsors and the growing gamers community that not even interested in cybersport. The original counter strike was not conceived competitive, and it became genius because of the ideas and thoughts of the developers. But now they're fuckin screwed up because csgo it is not an art, it's is a bullshit based on a brilliant idea. SO:
1.There must be a balance between the size of a map, the size of a player model and the speed of movement first of all. Maps are too small right now, and it is why it can't be competitive yet. The game should be HARD to play, it should be challenging, the psychology of a gamer should be considerated. And ofcourse the architecture of maps just suck, it is not interesting, it's simple and piled up with garbage.
2.CS 1.6 sizes are like golden ratio for gamers if developers will use it, it will have succes.
Their work on new strafes and weapon characteristics are based on gameplay they created in cs:s, it is wittingly wrong. The engine is fine, the ARCHITECTURE is not, think about it.
3. Imo, it will be successful just in case if they will follow the bases of original counter strike.
Post edited 2011-12-01 13:14:35
2011-12-01 13:04:23
+1
2011-12-01 13:35:02
i just tryed cs:go, for now is nothing that can be in some way competitive, the recoil is new and is bad, moving near the new battlefield or Call of duty engine, what i mean is "random headshot recoil", for now only the flash are near the 1.6 version. nothing more.
in the end right now this game is not ready for have professional competition.
my 2 cents.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/765611979622582.. here some screens
Post edited 2011-12-01 13:07:12
in the end right now this game is not ready for have professional competition.
my 2 cents.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/765611979622582.. here some screens
Post edited 2011-12-01 13:07:12
2011-12-01 13:06:35
I'm still in need of key :(
2011-12-01 13:06:52
gotta love uneducated people, this is a beta or pre-beta(alpha) the came is raw and there changing anything the community wants it to.
As a community you should be talking how to improve the game and start making posts and petitions, VAVLE will change it.
1.6 and CSS are both on a decrease, I don't think you lot realise that if CS:GO can be become highly competitive, then it would entice a brand new audience and more sponsors.. Make it the game you want it to be instead of slating it, if you are too narrow minded to say '1.6 forever man, fk these guys' you are seriously retarded. If you want to relive and see big money tournaments, more sponsors popping up back like in CPL when they were meaningful then, as a community act to support the game and embrace it by coming together to make changes instead of saying 'this game is terrible never gna play it' when it's a beta stage.
Community support is vital, get playing notice bugs and what you want to bring to VAVLE then create a forum post and petition.
- Recoil isn't perfect (we know)
- Awping is nice (weird zoom effect and slide effect is annoying when jump strafing)
- Nade's are done nicely
- Buy menu is too bulky
If you want to see a major FPS title die like cs, be ignorant and ignore the future changes which vavle said themselves, they will fix anything the community want them to do. They've done this in NYC and at Seatle.. Bigger tournaments that come up will mean more players, more sponsors, even players will come out of 'retirement' the scene will become hugely active again, I prefer to see something like CS take advantage of this instead of Battlefield or CoD series.
TL:DR - Read it (cba checking over spelling or grammer)
Post edited 2011-12-01 13:08:03
As a community you should be talking how to improve the game and start making posts and petitions, VAVLE will change it.
1.6 and CSS are both on a decrease, I don't think you lot realise that if CS:GO can be become highly competitive, then it would entice a brand new audience and more sponsors.. Make it the game you want it to be instead of slating it, if you are too narrow minded to say '1.6 forever man, fk these guys' you are seriously retarded. If you want to relive and see big money tournaments, more sponsors popping up back like in CPL when they were meaningful then, as a community act to support the game and embrace it by coming together to make changes instead of saying 'this game is terrible never gna play it' when it's a beta stage.
Community support is vital, get playing notice bugs and what you want to bring to VAVLE then create a forum post and petition.
- Recoil isn't perfect (we know)
- Awping is nice (weird zoom effect and slide effect is annoying when jump strafing)
- Nade's are done nicely
- Buy menu is too bulky
If you want to see a major FPS title die like cs, be ignorant and ignore the future changes which vavle said themselves, they will fix anything the community want them to do. They've done this in NYC and at Seatle.. Bigger tournaments that come up will mean more players, more sponsors, even players will come out of 'retirement' the scene will become hugely active again, I prefer to see something like CS take advantage of this instead of Battlefield or CoD series.
TL:DR - Read it (cba checking over spelling or grammer)
Post edited 2011-12-01 13:08:03
2011-12-01 13:07:49
Gotta love your ignorance. I will play the game that I like the most. I played CS:GO and it felt like shit for me. I play 1.6 and I love it. Thats all I need to know to decide what game I will spent my time with. No one should tell people what games they need to play. Cya.
2011-12-01 14:17:30
+1 to this!
You just raped that kiddo with style :)
You just raped that kiddo with style :)
2011-12-01 14:20:07
He didnt raped anyone. Him playing or a part of the community playing 1.6 wont make sponsors invest in this overexplored game at all. Sure, you can keep playing the game as long as you want to, so what? Professional scene will disappear anyway, new people aint playing the game anymore, oldschool players are leaving, prizes are getting shorter and shorter. Its all a matter of time. And if you so blindly support 1.6 that you cant even see this, then god........
2011-12-01 15:39:36
"new people aint playing the game anymore"
Stopped reading right there. So, do you have any evidence to support your claim? Because just look at the official steam status:
http://store.steampowered.com/stats/
Am I blind or is it tell me that 1.6 is the FPS game with most players? So, CS is a +10 year old game, and if you are right and new players ain't coming to it, do you really mean that those +60K players are fat, bald and old 30 year old cunts, that started playing the game 10 years ago and never left it?
There is evidence showing your claim is wrong. Any reasonable person would see it. After that I can't really take anything you write seriously.
Stopped reading right there. So, do you have any evidence to support your claim? Because just look at the official steam status:
http://store.steampowered.com/stats/
Am I blind or is it tell me that 1.6 is the FPS game with most players? So, CS is a +10 year old game, and if you are right and new players ain't coming to it, do you really mean that those +60K players are fat, bald and old 30 year old cunts, that started playing the game 10 years ago and never left it?
There is evidence showing your claim is wrong. Any reasonable person would see it. After that I can't really take anything you write seriously.
2011-12-01 15:48:16
most players, you do realise a high majority of 1.6 stats are made up over fake bot accounts for 1.6 servers - firstly.
secondly the game has decreased what 1-2 years ago there was at least 100,000k+ people playing now there is 40-50k. Check previous stats from both 1.6 and CSS, even CZ.
thirdly sponsor money has died down and organisations finding it hard to sponsor, if you've noticed around the last few years that sponsorship is only coming from a small number of companies, a lot of the top orgs have to change their strategy to get sponsors.. if you've taken note u'd of noticed most top orgs have had to change sponsors. The main supporters for 1.6 is mainly Steelseries who DIRECTLY support the game, compared to years ago you had ATi, GeForce, AMD, Intel etc...
I mean jeez, how come LoL have start getting stream viewers of over like 100k, SC2 also for instance.. Streaming and viewing is a huge source of revenue now, people make money via ads and big numbers, why do you think ESL only selects games that are most popular and draw in the highest ratings from teams, players and stream views. If CS:GO is made competitive it drives a new audience, and you will see an increase in sponsorship aswell as 'top players' being the spotlight straight away.
secondly the game has decreased what 1-2 years ago there was at least 100,000k+ people playing now there is 40-50k. Check previous stats from both 1.6 and CSS, even CZ.
thirdly sponsor money has died down and organisations finding it hard to sponsor, if you've noticed around the last few years that sponsorship is only coming from a small number of companies, a lot of the top orgs have to change their strategy to get sponsors.. if you've taken note u'd of noticed most top orgs have had to change sponsors. The main supporters for 1.6 is mainly Steelseries who DIRECTLY support the game, compared to years ago you had ATi, GeForce, AMD, Intel etc...
I mean jeez, how come LoL have start getting stream viewers of over like 100k, SC2 also for instance.. Streaming and viewing is a huge source of revenue now, people make money via ads and big numbers, why do you think ESL only selects games that are most popular and draw in the highest ratings from teams, players and stream views. If CS:GO is made competitive it drives a new audience, and you will see an increase in sponsorship aswell as 'top players' being the spotlight straight away.
2011-12-01 18:18:30
"secondly the game has decreased what 1-2 years ago there was at least 100,000k+ people playing now there is 40-50k."
What? You are probably confusing 1.6's numbers with the failed CSS numbers.
I follow those stats regularly, and 1.6 WAS NOT peaking 100K players 1 or 2 years ago on the official steam stats. It was pretty much showing the same number as it is showing today.
You can't even prove what you are saying, because its bullshit. After that, I don't think people should trust anything that comes from you, because its obviously biased.
You look like a failed sAuce boy. Here is is again, just look at how pathetic the sAuce number is, compared to 1.6:
http://i56.tinypic.com/mvpvlc.jpg
Thats right, 1.6 humiliated sAuce. Live with that you retard!
What? You are probably confusing 1.6's numbers with the failed CSS numbers.
I follow those stats regularly, and 1.6 WAS NOT peaking 100K players 1 or 2 years ago on the official steam stats. It was pretty much showing the same number as it is showing today.
You can't even prove what you are saying, because its bullshit. After that, I don't think people should trust anything that comes from you, because its obviously biased.
You look like a failed sAuce boy. Here is is again, just look at how pathetic the sAuce number is, compared to 1.6:
http://i56.tinypic.com/mvpvlc.jpg
Thats right, 1.6 humiliated sAuce. Live with that you retard!
2011-12-01 18:38:44
I said 1.6, CSS and CZ....? The combine of the CS Franchise has decreased loads... read.
And i'm pretty sure in the CSS vs. 1.6 image where it says 1.6 is chess, CSS is checkers had around 90-100k players for 1.6 - actually infact More: http://csgoodies.com/source.jpg theres your 'proof' CS in general (1.6, CSS, CZ) have all decreased especially over the last 2 years. That is a Huge drop in players, from 200k+ 1.6 players now to 50-55k... If CS:GO could be exactly like 1.6 then we can see it being played more in the mainstream - i.e. Exactly the same feel as 1.6 and behaviour with updated graphics (like CSP, i was a full supporter of CSP if they could make it like 1.6)
Failed sauce boy? I played 1.6 for about 7 years, i was at dreamhack last summer...? Not to mention aload of other events. I started playing CSS due to sponsorship.
Live with what... i'm pretty certain i've said to make CS:GO more like 1.6, I love playing 1.6 and prefer it to CSS by miles. If CS:GO could be like 1.6 with big financial backing pretty sure i'd move over - I really don't think you realise im talking about the game 'CS:GO' and how to make it as big as 1.6 was in the past...?
Post edited 2011-12-01 19:04:49
And i'm pretty sure in the CSS vs. 1.6 image where it says 1.6 is chess, CSS is checkers had around 90-100k players for 1.6 - actually infact More: http://csgoodies.com/source.jpg theres your 'proof' CS in general (1.6, CSS, CZ) have all decreased especially over the last 2 years. That is a Huge drop in players, from 200k+ 1.6 players now to 50-55k... If CS:GO could be exactly like 1.6 then we can see it being played more in the mainstream - i.e. Exactly the same feel as 1.6 and behaviour with updated graphics (like CSP, i was a full supporter of CSP if they could make it like 1.6)
Failed sauce boy? I played 1.6 for about 7 years, i was at dreamhack last summer...? Not to mention aload of other events. I started playing CSS due to sponsorship.
Live with what... i'm pretty certain i've said to make CS:GO more like 1.6, I love playing 1.6 and prefer it to CSS by miles. If CS:GO could be like 1.6 with big financial backing pretty sure i'd move over - I really don't think you realise im talking about the game 'CS:GO' and how to make it as big as 1.6 was in the past...?
Post edited 2011-12-01 19:04:49
2011-12-01 19:01:08
Failed. That picture
http://csgoodies.com/source.jpg
is NOT the official steam stats. That one included the non-steam players. The steam stats does not count non-steam players, and it was showing pretty much the same 60K number of players 1 or 2 years ago, as it is showing today.
Failed, you are comparing orange with apples. Those are different stats.
http://csgoodies.com/source.jpg
is NOT the official steam stats. That one included the non-steam players. The steam stats does not count non-steam players, and it was showing pretty much the same 60K number of players 1 or 2 years ago, as it is showing today.
Failed, you are comparing orange with apples. Those are different stats.
2011-12-01 19:06:05
that was offical when CGS came out (and i'm pretty sure it was taken SS from steam stats, I remember 1.6 having like 100k+ players on the stats if someone from vavle or steam could clarify that would be nice), 1.6 was the biggest game by far, it was the biggest FPS title ever at one point - so your telling me that today in 2011 there is the exact same active users and servers as there was in say period of 2002-2008?
pretty sure I remember HLTV viewers from X3 vs. 3D and CPL 02/03 being something ridiculous like 20-50k viewers?
But yeah, your post makes sense(?)
Post edited 2011-12-01 19:19:38
pretty sure I remember HLTV viewers from X3 vs. 3D and CPL 02/03 being something ridiculous like 20-50k viewers?
But yeah, your post makes sense(?)
Post edited 2011-12-01 19:19:38
2011-12-01 19:16:59
I am telling you that CS 1.6 is still (in 2011) the biggest team FPS game in computer games. Its still the #1 in its class, period. Please, prove me wrong?
And btw, that stats was NEVER official, you must be joking right? The only official one, was from VALVE, and it NEVER counted non-steam players.
The other thing I am telling you, is that sAuce failed and never could replace 1.6, and the sAuce numbers are going down in the steam stats, not the 1.6 numbers. Period.
And btw, that stats was NEVER official, you must be joking right? The only official one, was from VALVE, and it NEVER counted non-steam players.
The other thing I am telling you, is that sAuce failed and never could replace 1.6, and the sAuce numbers are going down in the steam stats, not the 1.6 numbers. Period.
2011-12-01 19:21:59
the biggest demographic for 1.6 are poorer countries, of course more people are gonna play 1.6, because more people have bad computers
2011-12-01 23:58:19
" I follow those stats regularly, and 1.6 WAS NOT peaking 100K players 1 or 2 years ago on the official steam stats. It was pretty much showing the same number as it is showing today. "
so the player count has basically stayed the same in the last two years, doesnt this contradicted your statement that new players are regularly coming to css?
unless the amount that leave and the new players is almost exactly the same, which i doubt.
so the player count has basically stayed the same in the last two years, doesnt this contradicted your statement that new players are regularly coming to css?
unless the amount that leave and the new players is almost exactly the same, which i doubt.
2011-12-03 05:11:03
Love my ignorance? I played top end 1.6 and CSS, i've worked with sponsors and managers.. I even help a large 'known' headphone company promote gaming gear and give input into how they can make their gaming headphones/headsets better.
Don't you understand in your silly head that this is a pre-BETA everything can be changed, noone is telling you what time to play, if you want to be arrogant and show the decline in sponsors teams and players (factual) including prizesmoney and tournaments in compared the past then go ahead be narrow minded.
You realise if you talk to anyone in the scene that has a clue, example Nixon, carn amongst others who deal with communitys and sponsors/management they can see that if the game is fixed and taylored there able to make this game a big esports title, going into 2012 with some big prizemoney on the line.
Don't you understand in your silly head that this is a pre-BETA everything can be changed, noone is telling you what time to play, if you want to be arrogant and show the decline in sponsors teams and players (factual) including prizesmoney and tournaments in compared the past then go ahead be narrow minded.
You realise if you talk to anyone in the scene that has a clue, example Nixon, carn amongst others who deal with communitys and sponsors/management they can see that if the game is fixed and taylored there able to make this game a big esports title, going into 2012 with some big prizemoney on the line.
2011-12-01 18:12:46
WTF are you talking about? Look at you brah... You are talking to people, as if they need to help "pro-players" or as if they want to "become a pro-players" and as if they should really care or play a VIDEO GAME for a cause.
My god, you are pathetic. People should work hard in life, in school, get good jobs, etc... Thats how you succeed in this world. The VIDEO GAME part of anyones life, should be FOR FUN only, and if they have fun playing 1.6, SO BE IT, no reason to change that.
Not sure how old are you, how are your school status and your job and how much you earn, and I don't care, but THATS where people should focus at, and do whatever it takes for the cause. NOT A FUCKING VIDEO GAME. Wake up, get out of your bubble, and stop being ridiculous.
My god, you are pathetic. People should work hard in life, in school, get good jobs, etc... Thats how you succeed in this world. The VIDEO GAME part of anyones life, should be FOR FUN only, and if they have fun playing 1.6, SO BE IT, no reason to change that.
Not sure how old are you, how are your school status and your job and how much you earn, and I don't care, but THATS where people should focus at, and do whatever it takes for the cause. NOT A FUCKING VIDEO GAME. Wake up, get out of your bubble, and stop being ridiculous.
2011-12-01 18:33:29
your a dribbling mess, it's a game. If you want to see it progress and the competitive side to work then embrase it as a community instead of being a narrow minded spaz.
Oh man really? I'm pretty sure I have a decent degree i've studied hard and will have a decent job in central london. I play cs for a hobby, for fun. I like competitive games, if I want to spend time playing it I want the game to be fun - you can only have fun playing 1.6? Nice one you absolute mong. The idea is to make the game behave more like 1.6, as it is pre-beta vavle have stated 'they will change what the community wants changing'
What do you think this is my full time job or something you cretin. What are you trying to make this some debating class why kids shouldnt play games, when have i EVER stated that gaming comes before education you absolute mong. If you could read anything and not be arrogant you will notice I was saying people need to take notes and help vavle fix the game to be more like 1.6, without input it wont happen. I never once said you have to move over, i never once s aid css or 1.6 is 'crap' i said if you want cs:go to be a success then give the input to make it the game you want it to be, a game to be like 1.6 with a competitive mode.
cba replying to you have proven how much of a cretin you are.
Post edited 2011-12-01 18:50:53
Oh man really? I'm pretty sure I have a decent degree i've studied hard and will have a decent job in central london. I play cs for a hobby, for fun. I like competitive games, if I want to spend time playing it I want the game to be fun - you can only have fun playing 1.6? Nice one you absolute mong. The idea is to make the game behave more like 1.6, as it is pre-beta vavle have stated 'they will change what the community wants changing'
What do you think this is my full time job or something you cretin. What are you trying to make this some debating class why kids shouldnt play games, when have i EVER stated that gaming comes before education you absolute mong. If you could read anything and not be arrogant you will notice I was saying people need to take notes and help vavle fix the game to be more like 1.6, without input it wont happen. I never once said you have to move over, i never once s aid css or 1.6 is 'crap' i said if you want cs:go to be a success then give the input to make it the game you want it to be, a game to be like 1.6 with a competitive mode.
cba replying to you have proven how much of a cretin you are.
Post edited 2011-12-01 18:50:53
2011-12-01 18:47:41
No, my point is very very clear, you just can't counter argue it.
1) people should play whatever they want to play. if they are happy playing tetris, so be it. If they are happy playing CSS, so be it. If they are happy playing 1.6, so be it.
2) playing a video game for A FUCKING CAUSE is pathetic as fuck. Its a video game, it SHOULD NOT be anything really important in your life, it should be for fun only and moderate only.
Thats it. Think about it again for a moment. You are getting into an argument of playing video games for a fucking CAUSE (and I don't even believe in your cause anyway).
That might be a regular normal everyday life thing for you, but for me, its ridiculous.
Oh, and btw, NO ONE is telling poeple life you (who want to play a video game for a cause LOL) that you should not do it, or that you are narrow minded, etc... Its the other way arround. Its YOU, comming here and telling people that like 1.6 that they should change it for A CAUSE. Got it? You are a mess.
Cheers.
Post edited 2011-12-01 18:55:44
1) people should play whatever they want to play. if they are happy playing tetris, so be it. If they are happy playing CSS, so be it. If they are happy playing 1.6, so be it.
2) playing a video game for A FUCKING CAUSE is pathetic as fuck. Its a video game, it SHOULD NOT be anything really important in your life, it should be for fun only and moderate only.
Thats it. Think about it again for a moment. You are getting into an argument of playing video games for a fucking CAUSE (and I don't even believe in your cause anyway).
That might be a regular normal everyday life thing for you, but for me, its ridiculous.
Oh, and btw, NO ONE is telling poeple life you (who want to play a video game for a cause LOL) that you should not do it, or that you are narrow minded, etc... Its the other way arround. Its YOU, comming here and telling people that like 1.6 that they should change it for A CAUSE. Got it? You are a mess.
Cheers.
Post edited 2011-12-01 18:55:44
2011-12-01 18:53:11
+1
You are right. He must be so mad I can't even imagine hahha!
You are right. He must be so mad I can't even imagine hahha!
2011-12-01 18:58:00
why would I be mad, i play 1.6?
2011-12-01 19:14:25
So? You think 1.6 some magical game that once you play it, you are not an idiot anymore? Sorry, but no. You can play 1.6, all right, but you are still an idiot.
Good day.
Good day.
2011-12-01 19:24:29
why am I an idiot, to help make cs:go more like 1.6, exactly like CSProMod was
Right...ok
Right...ok
2011-12-01 19:29:14
tbh, if you believe CS:GO can ever become like 1.6, you are an idiot. Just saying...
But hey, keep believing bro... people still believe in Santa Claus these days, so why not!
But hey, keep believing bro... people still believe in Santa Claus these days, so why not!
2011-12-01 19:34:50
1. where have i ever stated people should play cs:go, 1.6, css or cz. I stated that speaking to vavle as a community you can make CS:GO have the exact same feeling as 1.6 - i agree 100% fully play the game you enjoy, ive never once said otherwise.
2. when did i ever say play a game for a cause, i said making a game like 1.6 which in my eyes is the best FPS game ever made - would be perfect. If CS:GO can replicate that then would be great to see a bigger community
When have i ever said a cause, i play the game for fun and for competition. If it wasnt fun I wouldn't play it. I'm taking as a community you can make this a fun game, you can make it what YOU want it to be like - what is my 'cause'? i'm really confused where you're saying I have a cause when i've not stated anything apart from pointing out errors in a game which is pre-beta to make it like 1.6, i'm pretty sure its the exact same as CSProMod - if that could have taken off it would have been ace.
What are you on about I want to play video games for life?! when have i EVER stated 1.6 players should switch game, quote me once. Please :))
Go back to making pizza
Post edited 2011-12-01 19:13:27
2. when did i ever say play a game for a cause, i said making a game like 1.6 which in my eyes is the best FPS game ever made - would be perfect. If CS:GO can replicate that then would be great to see a bigger community
When have i ever said a cause, i play the game for fun and for competition. If it wasnt fun I wouldn't play it. I'm taking as a community you can make this a fun game, you can make it what YOU want it to be like - what is my 'cause'? i'm really confused where you're saying I have a cause when i've not stated anything apart from pointing out errors in a game which is pre-beta to make it like 1.6, i'm pretty sure its the exact same as CSProMod - if that could have taken off it would have been ace.
What are you on about I want to play video games for life?! when have i EVER stated 1.6 players should switch game, quote me once. Please :))
Go back to making pizza
Post edited 2011-12-01 19:13:27
2011-12-01 19:10:34
1) Look at your post #333
"I mean jeez, how come LoL have start getting stream viewers of over like 100k, SC2 also for instance.. "
You are more worried about the game you are playing having more viewers than some other game, than everything else. Thats not how it goes for most people. They just want to play whatever they like, whatever their friends are playing, or whatever. They couldn't care less about such ridiculous thing as you care.
2) Your argument is OBVIOUSLY playing a game for a cause. If you can't see that, I am sorry, I don't know how to help you then.
Most people have legit serious problems in life to take care of. You, on the other hand, is "making" a problem out of a video game. This already tells me enough.
Cheers.
"I mean jeez, how come LoL have start getting stream viewers of over like 100k, SC2 also for instance.. "
You are more worried about the game you are playing having more viewers than some other game, than everything else. Thats not how it goes for most people. They just want to play whatever they like, whatever their friends are playing, or whatever. They couldn't care less about such ridiculous thing as you care.
2) Your argument is OBVIOUSLY playing a game for a cause. If you can't see that, I am sorry, I don't know how to help you then.
Most people have legit serious problems in life to take care of. You, on the other hand, is "making" a problem out of a video game. This already tells me enough.
Cheers.
2011-12-01 19:18:05
I'm not more worried about how many viewers, i play the game I want to play for fun...? CS:GO is just updated version if they could do CS1.7 or CS2.0 this is closest thing, i just wished they used HL1 Engine and 1.6 and remodded the game on a high texture pack to make it perfect.. but there not going to unfortunately
play a game for what cause, what are you on about? I quit the game for 3years for University
Why are you bringing this life issue up, when have i ever said that life isn't as important as CS? What are you on about seriously, every single person here will have family issues and problems with cs, career path to chose, a life to live - what has this got to do with playing computer games.. I stopped playing for many reasons due to family members ill and in hospital i really dont understand your arguement
Post edited 2011-12-01 19:26:48
play a game for what cause, what are you on about? I quit the game for 3years for University
Why are you bringing this life issue up, when have i ever said that life isn't as important as CS? What are you on about seriously, every single person here will have family issues and problems with cs, career path to chose, a life to live - what has this got to do with playing computer games.. I stopped playing for many reasons due to family members ill and in hospital i really dont understand your arguement
Post edited 2011-12-01 19:26:48
2011-12-01 19:26:11
Looks like you can't really see where you are contradicting yourself now.
There is no point in explain it more to you, because I don't believe you will see it anyway. So, you play the game for fun only right? Ok, so let people play their game for fun too, and don't try to act as a smarass on them all right?
Cheers.
There is no point in explain it more to you, because I don't believe you will see it anyway. So, you play the game for fun only right? Ok, so let people play their game for fun too, and don't try to act as a smarass on them all right?
Cheers.
2011-12-01 19:30:13
good english bro
you think im here to move people over to a game, the only thing ive said is valve stated they will listen to 1.6 community for changes, how hard is that to grasp?
No CS:GO Beta Key for you now brother!
Post edited 2011-12-01 19:35:16
you think im here to move people over to a game, the only thing ive said is valve stated they will listen to 1.6 community for changes, how hard is that to grasp?
No CS:GO Beta Key for you now brother!
Post edited 2011-12-01 19:35:16
2011-12-01 19:33:24
his point is that this community of retards wants a game to replace 1.6 but any game more advanced than this one that came out in 2003 will be frowned upon by the brainless drones such as yourself. You will never be satisfied with anything newer than that 2003 game. Stop arguing pz
2011-12-01 22:23:24
Hey sAucer, sup?
http://i56.tinypic.com/mvpvlc.jpg
HAAAHAHA! Its so funny to humiliate sAucers in here!
http://i56.tinypic.com/mvpvlc.jpg
HAAAHAHA! Its so funny to humiliate sAucers in here!
2011-12-01 22:49:31
I dont get how thats humiliating. More people spectate CoD then 1.6 and source so obviously its better then both by your logic, yet you still defend a lower end game.
Whats humiliating is your inability to think this through. Probably sounded good in your head though
Post edited 2011-12-01 22:57:32
Whats humiliating is your inability to think this through. Probably sounded good in your head though
Post edited 2011-12-01 22:57:32
2011-12-01 22:56:55
More people spectate CoD? Show me evidence, or you are bullshitting. Also, CoD is not CS. 1.6 and source are CS, its fair to compare, and 1.6 humiliated source.
In your ass buddy. Here it is, for you again.
http://i56.tinypic.com/mvpvlc.jpg
And remember, if you can`t show evidence that CoD has more specs than 1.6, than you are bullshitting and losing brah!
In your ass buddy. Here it is, for you again.
http://i56.tinypic.com/mvpvlc.jpg
And remember, if you can`t show evidence that CoD has more specs than 1.6, than you are bullshitting and losing brah!
2011-12-01 23:01:05
CoD gets an average of 250k spectators per event by MLGs own numbers, this was mentioned by Sundance in an interview i watched on their stream.
You can go look it up on your own. Even so, using spectator counts as the sole basis for determining what game is better, is pure bullshit because in the end you're making the judgement based on your own opinion. It doesn't factor in elements like computer quality which is why many can't play source. I thought having free education in Europe would mean you had taken a critical thinking course, but apparently that isn't the case.
No one is losing because no one's opinion is fact
smd brah!~
You can go look it up on your own. Even so, using spectator counts as the sole basis for determining what game is better, is pure bullshit because in the end you're making the judgement based on your own opinion. It doesn't factor in elements like computer quality which is why many can't play source. I thought having free education in Europe would mean you had taken a critical thinking course, but apparently that isn't the case.
No one is losing because no one's opinion is fact
smd brah!~
2011-12-01 23:55:52
Wait, isnt it A FACT, that 1.6 has more spectators and more prize money and more prestigious events? I thought that was a fact, not an opinion.
In your face sAucer boy! So good to humiliate sAucers on here!
In your face sAucer boy! So good to humiliate sAucers on here!
2011-12-02 00:51:30
Wait, even if tetris had more spectators than 1.6, he would still be right, and 1.6 would still be better than source. So, looks like what you are saying is not changing the fact that 1.6 > source.
Sorry, but I think he made you mad :)
Sorry, but I think he made you mad :)
2011-12-01 23:04:09
Well I was making the point that one game having more spectators then another doesn't necessarily make it better because in the end its only opinion.
I think youre mad, i dont know why but i think you are
I think youre mad, i dont know why but i think you are
2011-12-01 23:46:11
source v2 beta is live
2011-12-01 13:09:45
It's funny to read 1.6 never die, cs:go sucks etc. You were growing up with this game but next generation is coming and when they will see 1.6 next to cod:mw3/b3/dota2/lol and much more games with cool graphic.
Try to think sometimes. I like 1.6 very much but this game is simply old.
Try to think sometimes. I like 1.6 very much but this game is simply old.
2011-12-01 13:20:02
If you wanna see some Gameplay Video you can watch this videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhNLOa74I0A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axhoVV8M93I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhNLOa74I0A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axhoVV8M93I
2011-12-01 13:30:45
I would laugh so hard if nobody used his beta key
2011-12-01 13:32:26
<yawns> I go to play ONE POINT SIX dm
2011-12-01 13:36:03
I love the zeal of my 1.6 brethren but not the stupidity.
If you don't like the game, tell Valve what they have to fix. They've said over and over that they will change the game as the community sees fit. They know they screwed up by not listening to the community when Source came out and will not make the same mistake.
So if u want things changed, be specific and go to the Steam forums and tell them what you want changed. PERIOD.
If you don't like the game, tell Valve what they have to fix. They've said over and over that they will change the game as the community sees fit. They know they screwed up by not listening to the community when Source came out and will not make the same mistake.
So if u want things changed, be specific and go to the Steam forums and tell them what you want changed. PERIOD.
2011-12-01 13:39:28
+1
This is everyone's chance to make CS:GO the best it can be and bring CS back as the #1 esports title with great prizepots.
If CS:GO isn't popular, because of all you "1.6 forever!!!11" idiots who refuse to even give it a chance, then cs will eventually have the tiniest prizepots and no one will play it. It will be demoted to a pub game with little online leagues. A more popular game like COD, regardless of how shitty it is, will have more tournaments than cs.
Is that what you all want?
This is everyone's chance to make CS:GO the best it can be and bring CS back as the #1 esports title with great prizepots.
If CS:GO isn't popular, because of all you "1.6 forever!!!11" idiots who refuse to even give it a chance, then cs will eventually have the tiniest prizepots and no one will play it. It will be demoted to a pub game with little online leagues. A more popular game like COD, regardless of how shitty it is, will have more tournaments than cs.
Is that what you all want?
2011-12-01 13:57:18
if you played cs for years it is hard to play a new shit game.. quake and 1.6 are the only true fps competitive games for pure skill.
2011-12-03 04:39:03
I have played cs on and off since 2000. I love it as much as you guys but the fact is, it's popularity, as an e-sports title, is diminishing. Other games are taking over and it's inevitable that cs 1.6 will "die" in terms of big tournaments and teams. Sooner or later, it will not be profitable for teams to leave their home country to compete.
And being so biased against CS:GO doesn't help. The game is in a pre-beta state, of course it will be "shit" right now. The thing is, Valve have said many times they are open to suggestions. They want this to be the best counter-strike to date. If everyone just bashes it, rather than actually playing it and giving constructive feedback, then, no, it will not be as good as it can be. The fact that valve speaks out to the pros means the game has HUGE potential to be good.
No one should be so quick to dismiss this game...
And being so biased against CS:GO doesn't help. The game is in a pre-beta state, of course it will be "shit" right now. The thing is, Valve have said many times they are open to suggestions. They want this to be the best counter-strike to date. If everyone just bashes it, rather than actually playing it and giving constructive feedback, then, no, it will not be as good as it can be. The fact that valve speaks out to the pros means the game has HUGE potential to be good.
No one should be so quick to dismiss this game...
2011-12-03 21:31:13
My main worry with the game is that no one will buy it. At least not many outside of the circles that already play either 1.6 or CSS.
Games like cod and Battlefield have ridiculously large user bases. Valve will need to market the HELL out of CS:GO if the want it to compete for tournament prize pots with the other modern FPS titles.
Games like cod and Battlefield have ridiculously large user bases. Valve will need to market the HELL out of CS:GO if the want it to compete for tournament prize pots with the other modern FPS titles.
2011-12-01 17:24:17
They definitely don't. Events like ESWC, WCG etc will back up a new CS. The other games don't have the same e-sport potential, otherwise CS would be long gone from the biggest tournaments in 2006/2007.
You seem to forget the history and place CS got in competetive gaming.
You seem to forget the history and place CS got in competetive gaming.
2011-12-01 17:43:10
Is it possible to run it whit a shitty computer like I have? :3
2011-12-01 13:45:11
they said cs:go uses similar resources as CSS if you can run CSS smoothly you wont have any problems at CS:Go i guess
Post edited 2011-12-01 13:58:45
Post edited 2011-12-01 13:58:45
2011-12-01 13:58:35
ah ok, thanks! Running 40-60 fps :P
2011-12-01 13:59:11
My god, how much effort developers nowadays put in engines (graphics, physics) is unbelievable. Counterstrike 1.3/1.5 were PERFECT and what did they do to it? They forced 1.6 upon the gamers by simply deactivating WON. 1.6 still is the best CS to date, no question about that, but how I wallow in nostalgia when thinking of the good old 1.5 days..
2011-12-01 13:48:33
need betakey ..
2011-12-01 13:53:50
1.6 best game ever, go will never replace 1.6, don't panic, this game just sucks
2011-12-01 13:56:07
It's funny how valve made DOTA 2 copying original dota and giving it improved graphics, but they haven't made it easier or removed/changed important aspects of it like they do with cs:go, so with no doubt they could copy cs 1.6 resolve it's issues (some randomness, add hd textures, hltv bugs, make smoke better etc. ), they just won't do it, they only care about money.
2011-12-01 14:01:33
I think this project is for CSS players, I think They will go for it, but CS1.6 players don't think so.. cs 1.6 forever unless something magic happend.
2011-12-01 14:17:34
more like CS:SOURCE 2
2011-12-01 14:34:49
Battlefield: Global Offensive.
Call of Duty: Black GOps
Call of Duty: Black GOps
2011-12-01 14:38:07
"black gops"
LMFAO russians are gonna love that
LMFAO russians are gonna love that
2011-12-01 14:56:53
+1
2011-12-01 14:50:34
ppl seem to forget that this is an early beta of the game. And also what ppl dont seem to remember is that the beta is actually "casual mode"
Who said that all the fog on the maps and all the other unnecessary shit will be in the competetive game mode?
Im not saying that it wont, becouse we dont know yet.
I actually liked the game considering how early in the beta the game actually is. If they tweak a few stuff and fix the 1.6 movements (strafing in air / bunny jumping) then i will be really happy with the game.
Im still very positive about the game :)
Who said that all the fog on the maps and all the other unnecessary shit will be in the competetive game mode?
Im not saying that it wont, becouse we dont know yet.
I actually liked the game considering how early in the beta the game actually is. If they tweak a few stuff and fix the 1.6 movements (strafing in air / bunny jumping) then i will be really happy with the game.
Im still very positive about the game :)
2011-12-01 15:04:53
Stop saying "its only bad because its in beta...", just look at CSS, its HORRID and its out for more than 7 years. CSGO just failed hard, end of story.
2011-12-01 15:12:56
You can play the competitive mode, instead of choosing "Quick match" go to "Create match" under the "Local play", there you can setup a competitive match, but only with bots. :)
2011-12-01 15:43:29
Yeah, ur positive about CS:GO but not about Promod. How much pennies they paid u?
2011-12-01 18:53:30
i watched a stream from Volcano and on competitive mode, the scenery appears to be cleaned up. They arent going to add 1.6 or source movement because its primarily used for exploiting. Since this is cross platform its gonna give a huge edge for PC players over console players, and thats even after the fact that a mouse and keyboard gives people an advantage of controllers.
My point being theyre trying to balance the game out between platforms.
My point being theyre trying to balance the game out between platforms.
2011-12-01 22:27:29
hahahahahah
2011-12-01 15:05:19
How can i get a key?
2011-12-01 15:06:10
What a joke of a game. Can't believe I wasted my time with this shit.
2011-12-01 15:11:17
I've been playing 1.6 for almost 9 years now more or less actively and I just can't help that when I think of even the word "Counter Strike" in general, I see very clearly in my head all those simple old graphics, that razor-sharp gameplay and most importantly the lack of any bugs that would cause the game to lose any of it's awesome playability or whatsoever.
Why try to improve a game that has quite much reached it's maximum enjoyment-level, by just adding fancy graphics and copied gameplay from these newer fps games?
Yes, I do realize that the next generation is about to step in and go for the games with better graphics (MW & BF) but why can't WE who still love 1.6 just as it is, play it as long as we want? It's not gonna be around forever and I've also started noticing that atleast for me the professional scene of 1.6 is getting more and more less interesting to follow when you start to notice that all those oldschool legends and players you used to watch 4-6 years ago have quitted and the handful of them left still playing are getting really old.
Why wouldn't we just enjoy from it as much as we can when it still is one of the most popular online games in the world and let it slowly step aside when these "new generation" games take it's place. This will probably take couple or more years, because it's not just gonna instantly die and disappear, you know? Everything in this world stops being around someday! Peace!!
Post edited 2011-12-01 15:33:07
Why try to improve a game that has quite much reached it's maximum enjoyment-level, by just adding fancy graphics and copied gameplay from these newer fps games?
Yes, I do realize that the next generation is about to step in and go for the games with better graphics (MW & BF) but why can't WE who still love 1.6 just as it is, play it as long as we want? It's not gonna be around forever and I've also started noticing that atleast for me the professional scene of 1.6 is getting more and more less interesting to follow when you start to notice that all those oldschool legends and players you used to watch 4-6 years ago have quitted and the handful of them left still playing are getting really old.
Why wouldn't we just enjoy from it as much as we can when it still is one of the most popular online games in the world and let it slowly step aside when these "new generation" games take it's place. This will probably take couple or more years, because it's not just gonna instantly die and disappear, you know? Everything in this world stops being around someday! Peace!!
Post edited 2011-12-01 15:33:07
2011-12-01 15:20:45
+100500
2011-12-01 17:07:16
Everything in this world stops being around someday! Peace!!
TRUE :'/
TRUE :'/
2011-12-01 21:17:08
"Why try to improve a game that has quite much reached it's maximum enjoyment-level?"
I didnt know you were the only CS player in the world. The game's enjoyment hasnt run out for everyone like youre suggesting. The CS series is the best selling FPS if I recall correctly, so it only makes sense to upgrade it. You dont have to like it if you dont want to but your attitude is exactly why the game is declining: resistance to ANY change.
I swear, when Valve tried to added footstep sounds when jumping, it was as if every CS players families had just been murdered. Its almost as if your brains are all swollen inside your skull, constricting bloodflow and making you insane. None of you will be pleased, therefore you as almost all others need to stop arguing and just not play the game instead of complaining about how you dont like change and leave all the reasonable people be
:)
Post edited 2011-12-01 22:33:23
I didnt know you were the only CS player in the world. The game's enjoyment hasnt run out for everyone like youre suggesting. The CS series is the best selling FPS if I recall correctly, so it only makes sense to upgrade it. You dont have to like it if you dont want to but your attitude is exactly why the game is declining: resistance to ANY change.
I swear, when Valve tried to added footstep sounds when jumping, it was as if every CS players families had just been murdered. Its almost as if your brains are all swollen inside your skull, constricting bloodflow and making you insane. None of you will be pleased, therefore you as almost all others need to stop arguing and just not play the game instead of complaining about how you dont like change and leave all the reasonable people be
:)
Post edited 2011-12-01 22:33:23
2011-12-01 22:32:52
+1
2011-12-01 15:52:29
ppl here talk rather about prize money than about gameplay, cant believe that somebody will pick the game to play because sponsors support that game, i mean i can understand pro players who actually want to make a living playing cs:go, but for all the others moving to cs:go because sponsors are supporting it...:S i dont understand why all of you played 1.6 in the first place, you should have moved to cod or battlefield long time ago.
and i love how ppl are saying valve will do this and valve will do that...valve just wants to make money and obviously they cannot make money of 1.6 anymore so they will do anything just to manipulate everyone to move to cs:go, they are big company and everything happens for a reason, so you will actually move to 10 times worst game and pay for it :D (havent really played cs:go so maybe it is not fair to say how bad it is, but after watching showmatches in which players dominated running around with awp, i mean thats enough for me coz i dont find that fun, tactical, skill demanding etc...)
and i love how ppl are saying valve will do this and valve will do that...valve just wants to make money and obviously they cannot make money of 1.6 anymore so they will do anything just to manipulate everyone to move to cs:go, they are big company and everything happens for a reason, so you will actually move to 10 times worst game and pay for it :D (havent really played cs:go so maybe it is not fair to say how bad it is, but after watching showmatches in which players dominated running around with awp, i mean thats enough for me coz i dont find that fun, tactical, skill demanding etc...)
2011-12-01 16:03:52
how to get a beta key :P
2011-12-01 16:15:40
GO CS PROMODE !
2011-12-01 16:19:12
Its rly a good game,if u love to play with plastic knifes and guns :( run&gun!
2011-12-01 16:21:21
fail
2011-12-01 16:25:03
seems like it is much easier to kill with a flashbang in this game than with ak\m4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwA0YtTiMYE&fea..
i just lol'd :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwA0YtTiMYE&fea..
i just lol'd :D
2011-12-01 16:27:26
CSS | FlashBangs Can Kill
That's CSS not CS:GO, in GO throwing a grenade against someone doesn't takes any damage (at least for now)
That's CSS not CS:GO, in GO throwing a grenade against someone doesn't takes any damage (at least for now)
2011-12-01 16:29:12
at least it's funny watching blood come out when you hit with a flash in go :)
seems like cspromod had to be so damn good.
seems like cspromod had to be so damn good.
2011-12-01 16:43:02
1.6 RLZ When you stop playing this game simply does not play more
2011-12-01 16:27:37
oh my god, just buy csp project, make it more pretty with graphic stuff and everybody will love it.
2011-12-01 17:02:06
First, go to hell with their keys. Stop Flooding, look for them elsewhere.
Secondly, all the nerd, who say it's a beta, and that the valve is waiting for advice on how to improve, I replied. This misery is nothing to help, too late to fix anything. Valve has long since been told what to do with counter-strike 1.6, so it was pretty community and the valve would be rowed money with a shovel, so what they want, and everyone would be happy, just to shit like the valve on the opinion of people in the proof of this edition of the misery that can not even be counter-strike.
Secondly, all the nerd, who say it's a beta, and that the valve is waiting for advice on how to improve, I replied. This misery is nothing to help, too late to fix anything. Valve has long since been told what to do with counter-strike 1.6, so it was pretty community and the valve would be rowed money with a shovel, so what they want, and everyone would be happy, just to shit like the valve on the opinion of people in the proof of this edition of the misery that can not even be counter-strike.
2011-12-01 17:15:40
I don't think it's late to fix it, but I think they won't, I don't know why, but I bet this won't change the necessary to be a good CS.
2011-12-01 22:55:05
I've played it and I can say just this: It's a great GAME but (for now) bad COUNTER-STRIKE. Maybe it'll change in the future, who knows...
And pls don't insulted me, it's just my opinion.
And pls don't insulted me, it's just my opinion.
2011-12-01 19:12:36
This is "beta" kid.
2011-12-01 19:40:58
what a fucking shit!!!
I really think that cs promod is the only option to substitute cs 1.6 at the moment ///.
I really think that cs promod is the only option to substitute cs 1.6 at the moment ///.
2011-12-01 20:36:49
tried it , almost the same as CS:S ... Difference is stupid buymenu, even worse hitbox (which i thought can't be real after i tried CS:S), and already i played it for 1h and there are sooo many cheaters my head already hurts . overall, nothing changed , same as CS:S and the only difference is the molotov which can absolutely ruin someone's intentions of rushing or going anywhere fast if u throw it . + the awp zoom is srsly unreal and not controlable.
2011-12-01 21:01:19
agree
2011-12-01 22:51:21
also people need to think about cs 1.0 to cs 1.6 :P
2011-12-01 21:58:57
I also had that line of thought... until I played it...
2011-12-01 22:16:40
1.3 had more players than 1.6, 1.5 had more players than 1.6
2011-12-01 23:06:21
i did not play 1.0 ~ though played beta 5; 6; 1.1 and others :)
2011-12-02 21:51:53
Already watched some streams... As I thought this is just like CS:S2 with 1.6 flashs, I fucking hate it.
2011-12-01 22:50:08
What a fucking joke !
2011-12-01 23:05:08
just tested it on another steam acc and all i can say is: you didnt miss a lot.
2011-12-02 00:53:25
the only thing i know about cs go is that i will buy it, try it, and quit it
i'm absolutely sure that it will increase nice money 4 the developers, but don't think that many ppl will play it all day long like they are doing it playing 1.6
that's just interesting to try, but nothing more
p.s. this game makes me so sad about 1.6 scene.
i think we all understand that if valve will make some tourtunaments with prizes about 1 m.(like they did it with dota2) 1.6 will die
hope that it won't happen but who knows
:(
i'm absolutely sure that it will increase nice money 4 the developers, but don't think that many ppl will play it all day long like they are doing it playing 1.6
that's just interesting to try, but nothing more
p.s. this game makes me so sad about 1.6 scene.
i think we all understand that if valve will make some tourtunaments with prizes about 1 m.(like they did it with dota2) 1.6 will die
hope that it won't happen but who knows
:(
2011-12-02 07:06:10
I would like to have a betkey alredy, cant wait to test the game :)
2011-12-02 07:09:45
For I have played 1.6 for many years, as long-standing fans, I will buy this game, try it, and will advice/suggest anythinganything I can to improve the game and CS community. Thats simple as it should be from the start of time
2011-12-02 08:47:53
reason why this game wont come popular is the source engine. nothing else. we can see how css failed and now this new one to source engine...
2011-12-02 10:48:51
What did css lack that csgo does not?
COMMUNITY FEEDBACK
Jesus.. You do realise what the game could be if the entire csgo feedback forum was filled with 1.6ers?! Get your shit together man, lets give feedback and make sure valve makes a game worth it's fucking title.
COMMUNITY FEEDBACK
Jesus.. You do realise what the game could be if the entire csgo feedback forum was filled with 1.6ers?! Get your shit together man, lets give feedback and make sure valve makes a game worth it's fucking title.
2011-12-03 05:27:50
I liked the game tbh. There were alot of flaws that needs to be fixed, but i suppose that's possible. The movement is good, but they need to fix the problems with strafing (you run faster and slide to long, making it hard to stay on a good angle). The spray is pretty much imposible to control, maybe it's because we play on american servers, but it needs to be fixed if that's not the case. Also the awp is a little to overpowered at the moment. There is no delay and you can move while shooting. I look pretty bright at CS:GO, of course alot has to be fixed, but i hope the game will turn out good.
2011-12-02 12:21:51
do they even gives out the beta keys to asia country? or just america and europe?
2011-12-02 13:10:02
cs 1.6 forever! If i want to play some new fps i'll download a new cod or something but if i want to compete in e-sport i'll play with 1.6 thats for dman sure!
2011-12-02 14:44:11
closed beta? is a fucking joke
2011-12-02 14:52:33
Yea good game for COD or BF fans but not for cs 1.6 community.
1.6 forever! :)
1.6 forever! :)
2011-12-02 20:10:37
played this stoned.. couldnt think of another way to enjoy it.
2011-12-03 04:36:48
cs 1.6 ftw
2011-12-03 05:59:01
if there is no ppl to play 1.6
i will still play with the BOTS :D
1.6 FTW!!!
i will still play with the BOTS :D
1.6 FTW!!!
2011-12-03 09:52:22
GO CS:P =)
2011-12-03 11:51:46
no wallbang, no bunny hop, no duck.... NO GAME.
2011-12-04 17:45:23
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