Top 20 players of 2011: starix (20)
Time: 2011-12-31 15:28

We begin our player ranking of 2011 with last year's 4th placed Sergey "starix" Ischuk. Although he was unable to replicate his 2010 form, he still made the cut in our 2011 ranking, mostly thanks to being a stable support player for Natus Vincere.

Basic information

Player: Sergey "starix" Ischuk
Team: Natus Vincere
Age: 24

Team achievements in 2011:

1st - IEM5 World Championship, ICSC 7, ASUS Spring, OSPL Spring, Adepto BH Open
2nd - ESWC, SEC
3rd - e-Stars Seoul, DreamHack Summer, DreamHack Winter, GameGune, ASUS Summer

Stats from major LAN tournaments in 2011:

Kills per round: 0.71
Deaths per round: 0.62
Rating: 1.07 (?)
Maps played: 82
MoM: 9 times top rated in a match
Best tournament: e-Stars Seoul
Best map: de_train
Most notable stats: 6x All-Star nomination

After an incredible ride during 2010, Natus Vincere and Sergey "starix" Ischuk had an extremely hard task to repeat those performance in the year that followed. It was unlikely that Ischuk himself would be able to continue with how he ended 2010, as the bar was set quite high with him being named the 4th best player and being in incredible individual form in the second half of the year. Especially hard to repeat were his MVP-worthy displays at Arbalet Cup Dallas and DreamHack Winter 2010, when he carried the team to two of their seven major titles.

Staying on top is the hard part

Tournament (team result) Rating
Avg% +/-
IEM5 European Championship Finals (4th place) 1.04 (2nd)
+6%
All-Star nomination
   

After finishing 2010 as the world's best team, Natus Vincere had a difficult task of defending that title, as every aspiring top team would be particularly motivated against them. The first test came already in January at the IEM5 European Championship Finals held on their home turf in Kiev, Ukraine. There, they faced troubles from the very beginning, losing to fnatic and Lions in the group stage and barely making it to playoffs. After overcoming the Russian side MYM to reach the semi-final, the new fnatic lineup once again defeated the Ukrainians and left them in a fight for 3rd place. They lost that match as well, to Frag eXecutors, and started the year without a podium finish, similarly to 2010.

Even though he recorded a mediocre 1.04 rating, Ischuk couldn't be blamed much for their lack of success as he played above team's average in each of their losses and contributed significantly to some of their wins. Most notable was their only playoff victory, when they overcame MYM in 2 close maps and Ischuk had a 54:41 individual score. For the overall tournament performance he earned his first All-Star lineup nomination, as one of the better players at the event and the second best from his team.

Tournament (team result) Rating
Avg% +/-
IEM5 World Championship (1st place) 1.08 (3rd)
+3%
All-Star nomination
   

The next tournament for Natus Vincere was the one with the biggest prize purse in 2011, IEM5 World Championship in Hannover, Germany ($80,000). This was the same tournament where the Ukrainian team first turned heads by winning the previous edition and climbing to the top of the world. It was another huge test for them to defend that title and this time they managed to do it, which returned them to world's top at that moment. Ischuk wasn't one of the team's main stars, but he provided solid backup with a 1.08 rating and another All-Star nomination, mostly thanks to his performances in Na`Vi's group stage victories against EG, redCode and fnatic (1.19 group stage rating).

A couple of weeks later, Natus Vincere were challenged once more, although now at a minor event ICSC7 finals, where they fought off Frag eXecutors in one of the most interesting finals the entire year. Ischuk carried on with mediocre performances, recording team's 4th best 1.07 rating at that tournament.

After that, the team took a break and skipped Xperia PLAY due to Danylo "Zeus" Teslenko becoming a father. They returned at ASUS Spring at the end of May with their 3rd title in a row, although again at a minor event.

Tournament (team result) Rating
Avg% +/-
DreamHack Summer 2011 (3rd place)
0.96 (4th)
-13%

That was just a prelude for their next big test a few weeks later at DreamHack Summer, where they were once more challenged by most of the world's top teams. They defeated a new (and short-lasting) lineup of fnatic in the quarter-final, but then in the semi-final fell to SK Gaming who were now strengthened by Marcus "Delpan" Larsson. They clinched the 3rd place in front of ESC Gaming and despite not winning the tournament, it could be counted as another successful campaign. However, the same can't be said for Ischuk, as this was his worst performance of the year and his only below average rating (0.96).

He still managed to have one of his highlights of the year at this tournament, winning a 1vs4 situation in the loss to SK Gaming:

A few days later, Natus Vincere traveled to Bosnia & Herzegovina for the first time and won another minor tournament, Adepto BH Open, defeating a once-more-changed fnatic lineup. Ischuk's spirits were seemingly back up, as even though most of his opponents were lower-level, he recorded a sky-high 1.53 rating and +125 K-D difference. That was enough to make him the second best of his team and the tournament.

Tournament (team result) Rating
Avg% +/-
GameGune 2011 (3rd place)
1.09 (5th)
-13%

The next major event for the Ukrainians was GameGune in Bilbao, Spain, which they ended in third place for the second year in a row. They were firstly defeated by SK Gaming and after that surprisingly by ESC Gaming who played with a stand-in. Ischuk ended up with a solid 1.09 rating, but when we take a closer look, he was actually below team's average in every single match, contributing very little to their success as their worst player. On the other hand, he never disappionted much either, so it was an acceptable performance overall.

The only occasion in entire 2011 when Ischuk would turn out to be Na`Vi's best rated player was at ASUS Summer, which the Ukrainians however didn't win. He recorded a 1.28 rating, but the team fell to their fellow countrymen DTS in the semi-final, later sharing the 3rd place prize with Lions.

Tournament (team result) Rating
Avg% +/-
e-Stars Seoul (3rd place)
1.15 (2nd)
+8%
All-Star nomination
3rd best KPR (0.80)
   

That perhaps sparked Ischuk a bit, as he stepped up starting from the next tournament, which was e-Stars Seoul. Natus Vincere recorded another 3rd place finish after losing to Frag eXecutors and SK Gaming, but Ischuk had his best rating of the year in majors (1.15). He was Na`Vi's best fragger and one of the best at the event with 0.80 kills per round, which resulted in his third All-Star nomination.


Ischuk was focused during e-Stars

Tournament (team result) Rating
Avg% +/-
SEC 2011 (2nd)
1.08 (3rd)
+3%
All-Star nomination
2nd best awpKPR (0.30) and 2nd most AWP kills (72)
   

The next opportunity for Natus Vincere to get back to winning ways was in October at Samsung Euro Championship. They managed to reach the final this time, after overcoming SK Gaming in the quarter-final and WinFakt in the semi-final, but were stopped by the home team Frag eXecutors. This was the first major final lost by the Ukrainians since Arbalet Cup Europe in May 2010 when fnatic defeated them. Ischuk now kept up with his good form, as even though he had another mediocre rating (1.08), it was still above team's average, and also earned him another All-Star nomination.

Interestingly, in his best match of the tournament, second map of the semi-final against WinFakt, he managed to survive every round of the first half against the Finns (17:0 score), something we haven't seen in matches between top teams in quite a while. Furthermore, he was the team's primary AWPer at this event and one of the best overall (0.30 awpKPR).

Tournament (team result) Rating
Avg% +/-
ESWC 2011 (2nd)
1.07 (2nd)
+7%
All-Star nomination
   

In the next major event, ESWC, where they were the reigning champions, Natus Vincere managed to get revenge on the Polish team now named AGAiN by defeating them in the semi-final, but they ended up losing the final again, this time to SK Gaming. Ischuk once more played above team's average, recording a solid 1.07 rating. He didn't stand out much, but he did play quite well against the Poles in the semi-final (49:34 score, 1.31 rating).

Before their last major of 2011, Natus Vincere attended MSI BEAT IT Russia where Ischuk was again the team's second best (1.10 rating), but they finished in a disappointing 4th place, losing to fnatic in the semi-final and then to DTS.

Tournament (team result) Rating
Avg% +/-
DreamHack Winter 2011 (3rd place)
1.10 (2nd)
+5%
All-Star nomination
   

DreamHack Winter was the final major tournament for the Ukrainians in 2011 as they were set to miss the World Cyber Games due to failing to win the qualifier. Therefore, the only title left to defend for them was from last year's winter edition of the Swedish tournament, where Ischuk was the reigning MVP. Things didn't go quite as they hoped, as despite defeating SK Gaming in the quarter-final, they were then knocked out of the race by Lions. However, they still found some comfort in another 3rd place cheque after defeating mousesports.

Although Ischuk was nowhere near being the MVP, he concluded the year on a positive note, once more playing above team's average as their second best (1.10 rating) and earning his 6th All-Star nomination. He also had another memorable highlight, which took place during a group stage loss to fnatic:

One of the best support players in 2011

If we were to compare Ischuk's performance in 2011 to his 2010 display, we would probably end up disappointed, as he didn't show the same consistency or the same ability to lead the charge for his team. In fact, unlike last year, he wasn't the team's best player at any major tournament and he wasn't even close to being an MVP of one.

Despite that he still had a good year, but in a different role than what we were used to, being more of a support player now. With that in mind, ending up as the third best player of a top3 team and getting an All-Star nomination in 6 of his 8 major tournaments certainly seems to be reason enough to consider Ischuk one of the world's best players in 2011.

However, seeing as he was never selected as one of an event's best players and he had a mediocre 1.07 rating overall, the 20th position is the highest he could get.

New role for 2012?

The latest news from the Natus Vincere camp indicates that Ischuk has now taken on a completely new role, becoming the team's in-game leader. We will have to wait and see how that will pan out, and the first opportunity for that might be at IEM6 Global Challenge Kiev, as they are 2nd in line for a spot at that tournament.

Recommended demos of Sergey "starix" Ischuk in 2011:

Opponent Map Event Score Demo
Alternate dust2 IEM5 Eu Finals (Group stage) 25:10 POV
MYM tuscan IEM5 Eu Finals (Relegation, map 1) 33:24 HLTV
redCode dust2 IEM5 World (Group stage) 27:13 HLTV
k23 train OSPL Spring (Semi-final, map 1)
20:4 POV
e7p nuke Adepto BH Open (Group stage) 26:1 HLTV
HSBG
inferno Adepto BH Open (Semi-final, map 1)
31:10 POV
mousesports nuke e-Stars (Upper quarter-final) 29:20 HLTV
selectah train WCG Ukraine (3rd place, map 1) 23:1 HLTV
WinFakt train SEC (Semi-final, map 2) 22:10 HLTV
AGAiN train ESWC (Semi-final, map 1)
25:16 HLTV
Lions inferno DreamHack Winter (Semi-final, map 1)
30:11 HLTV


An interesting question could be posed concerning Ischuk and Na`Vi's form compared to 2010:

Were the team's results affected by Ischuk not playing up to his last year's standards, or did he not have great performances because the team itself wasn't on the same level, leaving less room for him to excel?

Perhaps neither, but in any case tell us what you think about that and also about the overall performance of Sergey "starix" Ischuk in 2011. Do you think he deserved the 20th position, or should he have been ranked higher or even left out of the list?

If you want to check out the entire ranking, go to our Introduction article as it will be updated daily until we complete the list. Stay tuned to HLTV.org as tomorrow we will bring you our number 19.

Tags: starix

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AGAiN !
2011-12-31 15:29:28
no very good year for him
2011-12-31 15:30:04
gj starix...good year :D
2011-12-31 15:30:21
nice, I like his play style
2011-12-31 15:31:34
+1
2011-12-31 15:46:47
yeah he is good, in next tournament as an iGL GL^HF
2011-12-31 16:08:38
gj
2011-12-31 15:31:44
NICE
2011-12-31 15:31:47
by: ptn7
#7
NICEEEEEE!
2011-12-31 15:33:45
Gj
2011-12-31 15:35:26
He was better @ 2010, but still a fkin beAst !
2011-12-31 15:35:40
+1
2011-12-31 15:53:57
starix mouse??
2011-12-31 15:35:47
Kinzu v2
2011-12-31 15:52:48
annabella
2011-12-31 15:36:48
hahaha xD nice :D
2011-12-31 15:37:15
da beast
well done dude
2011-12-31 15:37:55
Omg :D
2011-12-31 15:38:20
lol only 20 :/
2011-12-31 15:38:40
HLTV.org the best in the business!
2011-12-31 15:39:35
nice player, GL 2012 hope /A/
2011-12-31 15:39:36
Starix is now in-game leader @ navi, nice!
2011-12-31 15:39:58
+1, I loved kerchNET when he was the team's igl and had craft1k & kucher in the line up
2012-01-01 21:03:50
19? I think Xizt
2011-12-31 15:42:28
you er noob?

5 xizt
2011-12-31 16:34:54
lolololol - top5 gtr, neo, markeloff - 100% taz/karigan/or someone from lions
2011-12-31 17:00:06
4sure no one from lions in top5, xizt ofc too ;d

neo,gtr,markeloff and trace/karrigan/kalle - from this trio it's very hard to choose

and i guess f0rest will be top6-8, no higher, taz top6-11
2011-12-31 17:46:11
5 xizt ? and for what ? for playing good only one tournament ? :DD
2012-01-01 00:39:09
he should have a better place.
2011-12-31 15:42:56
karrigan #1
2011-12-31 15:43:45
#1 Neo
#2 GeT_RiGhT
#3 markeloff
#4 karrigan
2011-12-31 15:54:54
Neo? dont think so.He is pro vs bad teams
2011-12-31 16:06:28
uhm, he was the MVP of three events as far as I remember.

Post edited 2011-12-31 16:13:16
2011-12-31 16:11:16
So what? That MVP was based on shitty fanboys voting.
2011-12-31 16:19:17
50/50 with experts.

Anyway, he's clearly the best player of this years most successful team, although SK was almost as good. That gotta count for something.
2011-12-31 16:22:10
nop
get_right is the player of the year ;)
2011-12-31 19:22:26
opinions differ, imo neo, best player of best team ex FRagexecutors/AGAiN ESC 2011
2011-12-31 20:00:03
yeah, opinions. but thats bullshit dude...
2012-01-01 18:21:15
yea experts have nothing to say, only fanboys voting
2011-12-31 16:23:15
The team who gets team of the year or team of the event, do almost always have the MVP player too.
2011-12-31 17:12:02
his fanboys > his skill
2011-12-31 17:02:48
For sure.
2011-12-31 17:25:02
still top3 (:
2011-12-31 17:59:29
LOL he is bad against bad teams and always amazing against top teams
2011-12-31 16:32:48
kinda like f0rest
2011-12-31 17:40:23
don't you feel good today? :D
2011-12-31 17:53:33
maybe better check his matches against top teams

i won't count all his good games, but there are a lot of his good performances against the top teams through the whole year

just like on iem5euro, where were only good teams:
http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=246&playerid=165&a..
2011-12-31 18:00:33
Neo is amazing player, but he wasn't impressive this year.
2011-12-31 16:07:48
#57
2011-12-31 16:11:30
WTF
2011-12-31 16:33:06
Ok, let's say he "wasn't impressive this year", still he was the best player ;)
2011-12-31 16:43:38
Wake up? Houlden
2011-12-31 18:41:07
I think you should have a look at statistics from iem europe, world, xperia, sec, wcg etc..
2011-12-31 18:42:11
thats how my list looks too, although I think I am a bit unsure of whether to put markeloff as 2nd or gtr
2012-01-01 17:26:18
he deserves smaller number for this year imo
2011-12-31 15:45:40
I disagree

Post edited 2011-12-31 15:57:22
2011-12-31 15:55:54
only starix and marik from Na`Vi in top20 2011 I guess
2011-12-31 15:46:17
+edward
2011-12-31 17:32:16
really? edward?
2012-01-01 01:26:32
no ... he was really bad this year :/
2012-01-01 12:55:38
nice!
2011-12-31 15:46:25
nice :)
2011-12-31 15:46:59
Tgwri1s you're awesome.
2011-12-31 15:47:31
Always rated him as NaVi's second best player.
2011-12-31 15:47:44
cant wait for next article. very good! keep it coming
2011-12-31 15:48:21
nice!
2011-12-31 15:49:33
good player
2011-12-31 15:51:23
top20?????
2011-12-31 15:52:58
starix <3 good luck for 2012
2011-12-31 15:53:21
lol why 20?
2011-12-31 15:53:33
by: xen^
#37
can't see the music of the 2nd highlight in the youtube description ! anyone has a clue ?
2011-12-31 15:54:26
sad that 20, but gl. Next Gux.
2011-12-31 15:55:17
markeloff will be 1st. Or neo.
2011-12-31 15:55:56
1. gtr
2. neo
3. markellof
4. karrigan
5. f0rest
2011-12-31 19:24:06
+1
2011-12-31 21:05:43
GET_RIGHT 100%
2012-01-02 12:34:33
I guess we will have to see how he will game-lead, but I prefer Zeus.
2011-12-31 15:57:39
lol starix should be #5 something like this :/
2011-12-31 16:02:17
+1
2011-12-31 16:05:23
+1
2011-12-31 16:05:47
by: mudq
#70
+1
2011-12-31 16:30:27
Lol, no.
2011-12-31 16:43:56
ofc NOT
2011-12-31 16:57:40
http://instantrimshot.com/
2011-12-31 18:38:56
#1 : neo, taz or gtr.
2011-12-31 16:02:28
starix top5!
2011-12-31 16:04:50
1.markeloff
2011-12-31 16:05:13
First will be Markeloff!
2011-12-31 16:05:42
Wrong , NEO my friend!
2011-12-31 16:52:30
Sorry, great work. But he should be in top10...
2011-12-31 16:06:58
+1
2011-12-31 16:07:12
markeloff will be 1st again. he deserves this. and f*ckin' sad that he wasn't MVP of 2-3 last events because of stupid fanboy vote.
2011-12-31 16:08:44
he has most fans on this site.
2011-12-31 16:34:11
Neo will be 1st.
2011-12-31 16:52:45
You know this goes by statistics and Mark wasnt that impressive this year
2011-12-31 17:35:27
if he would have been voted MVP in the last tournaments, THAT would have been a fanboy vote
2011-12-31 17:44:53
nice
gj starix
2011-12-31 16:11:12
starix need nerf, so op
2011-12-31 16:12:09
Irelia need nerf
2012-01-01 02:04:36
he can be much better
2011-12-31 16:13:17
1. nEO
2011-12-31 16:16:51
gtr #1
2011-12-31 16:17:23
#1 neo
2011-12-31 16:18:10
#1 markeloff
2011-12-31 16:18:29
2010 starix >>> 2011 starix
and Edward too

Post edited 2011-12-31 16:23:22
2011-12-31 16:23:07
deserved better position
2011-12-31 16:26:32
Sweet job !
2011-12-31 16:30:27
1. Neo
2. TaZ
3. GTR
4. markeloff
5. f0rest
MARK MY WORDS
2011-12-31 16:33:44
polish fanboy...
2011-12-31 16:34:01
i'm from croatia. this is fact. Neo was definitely the best this year. I don't think any player dominated like this during whole year ever. TaZ/GTR will be 2nd, but i put taz cuz he was MVP once and his team was the best this year.
marke played so so every event and f0rest was amazing in SK even though some people say he was bad. probably they have big expectations on him.
2011-12-31 16:36:59
Nope, you're from Poland.
2011-12-31 17:04:31
oh really? do u want me to talk on croatian?
2011-12-31 20:48:30
Falling for Troll bait is the worst :)
2012-01-01 10:08:17
Neo was definately best this year comes from <3 Neo. Yeah, it´s pretty self-explaining.
2012-01-01 20:53:58
not only from me. from everyone who looks objective.
2012-01-01 20:59:34
YOur not looking objective.
2012-01-01 21:07:42
oh god...
2012-01-01 21:14:29
I win, period.
2012-01-01 21:20:05
TaZ :DDD LOOOL where is karrigan?) :D
2011-12-31 17:09:59
Top 3 will definitely be markeloff, neo and GeT_RiGhT. Don't know what order though.
2011-12-31 18:23:32
taz was 1000x better than neo this year

2012-01-01 13:43:48
markeloff top1
2011-12-31 16:34:41
1) markeloff
2) neo
3) get_right
2011-12-31 16:35:27
NEO/GTR sure top one .. but mark ? hah never.. i love navi fanboys :)



hatters gona kurwa hate !
2011-12-31 16:35:52
based on what? you're hater.
2011-12-31 16:36:34
nope ! i wish to see any mouz player in top 5 but.. i am realist.. 10-20 place for any ill be great for me .. cuz i am not fanboy !
but how i see.. mark wasnt that good like in 2k10 and 1000 navi fanboys say some like "mark top 1 .. mark the best fosho" it is only fanboys type..


you mad bro ?
if yes. think about it
mark top 3-5
2011-12-31 16:43:36
NEO/GTR ? fanboy
1. GTR/Markeloff
2012-01-01 14:26:08
markeloff and Edward in top5.
2011-12-31 16:36:21
marke definitely but i doubt that edward will be there. maybe top10
2011-12-31 16:37:28
1.markeloff
2.Neo
3.gtr
4.Edward
2011-12-31 16:37:07
1 friis
2 xizt
3 karrigan
4 gux

16 markeloff
17 neo
18 get_right
19 forest.
2011-12-31 16:37:14
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
2011-12-31 16:37:52
+1 :D made me laugh though
2011-12-31 17:41:24
- -||
2012-01-05 04:21:57
4 vs 4???
team A:friis Xizt karrigan gux trace VS team B: markeloff f0rest GeT_RiGhT Neo Edward
win who??:)))
2012-01-02 12:48:25
fOrest=sick,NEO=sick, sick*sick=perfect!
no significance to guess ...
2012-01-05 04:27:41
Nice, good player :)
2011-12-31 16:37:58
1.markeloff
2.neo
3.Edward
4.get_right
2011-12-31 16:38:18
I hope they didn't forget trace :] He should be in top10
2011-12-31 16:39:35
i hope it to , but he missed a lot of tournaments since mTw disbanded..
2011-12-31 19:13:23
N1 NEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooo
2011-12-31 16:42:14
surprise for me
2011-12-31 16:42:42
how much time did you spend to write this?

Post edited 2011-12-31 16:42:54
2011-12-31 16:42:43
1.NEO
2.Markeloff
3.Get_Right
4.f0rest
5.Edward
6.Xizt
2011-12-31 16:43:44
1.GTR
2.NEO
3.Mark
2011-12-31 16:46:10
not gtr ; )
2011-12-31 16:50:07
he has been the most consistent player in this year, i agree that NEO and GTR is really close, but mark is not over GTR :D

NEO/GTR on 1. dunno which one, i say gtr because i like him :D but its one of them :)
2011-12-31 16:51:40
neo was the most consistant player
2011-12-31 16:58:39
i believe that gtr has been in the top after an event more times than Neo :)
2011-12-31 16:59:41
check again
2011-12-31 17:00:31
Neo has gotten more 1. places but GTR has nearly been in top 5 every time he plays. but instead of starting a discussion lets wait for nr. 1 :)
2011-12-31 17:02:08
in this year Taz better edward/xizt/forest
2011-12-31 16:53:13
9 times top rated in a match? you included all these tournaments=


Post edited 2011-12-31 16:50:31
2011-12-31 16:46:44
1. neo
2. gtr
3. markeloff
4. f0rest
5. karrigan (?)
2011-12-31 16:51:00
1 small mistake - "but were stopped by the home team Frag eXecutors". On SEC was AGAiN not FX :D
2011-12-31 16:51:06
starix>ceh9
2011-12-31 16:51:12
STARIX IS MACHINE!
2011-12-31 16:52:21
1. neo
2. gtr
3. markeloff
4. forest
5. karrigan

neo will be 100% 1st because of WCG title and many mvp at major tournaments, and stop saying "stupid fanboys" because many peoples know neo is a really complete player
2011-12-31 16:53:16
mvp doesn't make him best player in 2011, better rating and youre higer in top is so simple
but neo in top 2 for sure

Post edited 2011-12-31 17:01:52
2011-12-31 17:01:07
can neo be igll???
2011-12-31 17:01:39
neo is igl ;)
2012-01-01 10:30:18
he will be 2/3
2011-12-31 17:45:48
you know that this is go by stats right?not "because" of becauses
2011-12-31 19:01:02
starix is a gr8 IGL, i think he used to IGL his former teams AGAMING
2011-12-31 16:54:50
A-gaming igl was always B1ad3.
From the beggining till the end.

Post edited 2012-01-01 20:01:05
2012-01-01 20:00:48
Good player,good aim,good team. 20 plase-nice for starix. I am think its true
2011-12-31 16:56:11
top
1)neo
2)karrigan
3)get_right
4)markeloff i think :D
2011-12-31 17:02:29
markelof will be 1st


Post edited 2011-12-31 17:03:11
2011-12-31 17:03:02
dont think so
2011-12-31 17:03:27
When you make a top you should consider the team results as well so ranking karrigan above get_right and markeloff seems a little bit silly:P though he played rather good :d
2011-12-31 17:41:02
1.gtr
2.neo
3.markeloff/f0rest
4.taz/karrigan
2011-12-31 17:05:51
markeloff all time in top5 every tournament. mb top1
2011-12-31 17:08:29
he won't be 1st this year ;}
2011-12-31 18:37:32
markeloff in top 3 infa 100%
2011-12-31 17:09:08
Starix #20. Then #1 most be one hell of a player...
2011-12-31 17:12:53
1+
2011-12-31 17:24:21
true, i was thinking the same thing.
2011-12-31 19:44:04
19 pasha i think
2011-12-31 17:12:58
Fucking A, tgwerito1s. This is one well-written piece of work.
2011-12-31 17:13:23
1. Neo
2. GTR
3. markeloff
4. forest
5. karrigan
2011-12-31 17:33:03
Great work as always , deserved place for starix imo he was decent , but not great;)

Post edited 2011-12-31 17:35:43
2011-12-31 17:35:09
f0rest
neo
gtr
2011-12-31 17:38:06
FUcking Ghoster!
2011-12-31 17:42:27
ceh9 is it, not starix :)
2012-01-01 15:56:49
Nice starix !

n1.Neo
n2.GTR
n3.Marke
2011-12-31 17:45:07
Top 1 Neo i chuj!!v :D
2011-12-31 17:49:47
1. markeloff
2. get_right
3. taz
4. Neo
5. f0rrest
6. TAZ
7. karrigan
8. Damage
-------
2011-12-31 17:56:40
2 taz?
2011-12-31 18:00:23
starix plays so bad this year!
2011-12-31 17:59:06
#150
haha
2011-12-31 18:02:02
I think starix can be on top-5.In top-3 are Markeloff, Neo, GTR
2011-12-31 18:12:37
obviously he cant be top 5 ,are u insane ? hXAHAXHX
2011-12-31 18:50:18
lolz, f0rest doesn't play well this year. He will be maybe about top 7-10 but NOT top 1-5 as some nominate. IMO first 2 places are(its 100% for me):
1.NEO
2.GTR
2011-12-31 18:13:50
he was good this year stop with that bullshit he wasnt the best this year but his perfomance this year was good
2011-12-31 18:36:22
I love the recommended demos.
HLTV org you are number 1.
2011-12-31 18:23:46
when began call top-19 players???
2011-12-31 18:24:08
1st will be markeloff.
2011-12-31 18:25:03
I don't think so
cause u c that Navi resault's not so good as it was in last year.
So that's why he will bie only on 3-5 positions
I think will be gtr or NEO and 3th may be smdy from SK/ex-mTw/mouz
2011-12-31 19:55:50
top3 World isn't bad at all.
2011-12-31 20:46:05
yes
I know it!
Also I didn't say anything about bad positions
I say only about marik's ranking
that's all...
2011-12-31 22:26:26
GJ starix, hope u'll be better in 2012 :)
2011-12-31 18:28:17
1. GTR
2. NEO
3. markeloff

4sure!!! ;D
2011-12-31 18:30:48
I think starix nice play in this year. This year was nice for starix, but he must be in top-10
2011-12-31 18:32:22
+1
2011-12-31 18:35:06
I do not watch a lot of Na'Vi games, but I have the feeling that this guy never plays for good stats and often makes the diffcult and important frags.
2011-12-31 18:36:29
he is mad fragger.
2011-12-31 19:49:17
On every tournament starix was top10. Now he's top20. NEW YEAR MAGIC..

Post edited 2011-12-31 18:36:50
2011-12-31 18:36:38
You are right
2011-12-31 19:11:44
I am not fanboy Na`Vi or even starix but this is unhonest. Many People here say the same thing.
SHAME!
2011-12-31 21:10:29
top10
2011-12-31 18:40:10
1. NEO
2011-12-31 18:42:00
actually starix had 17 : 1 versus winfakt @ sec cause Zeus killed him in last round haha :)
2011-12-31 18:45:17
If karrigan doesn't get 1st place, then there must be some fans disturbing the ratings.
2011-12-31 18:45:58
bro how many lan does mousesport won?

he will be approximatly #4 after neo get_right and mark
2011-12-31 19:32:12
he is deserved to top20 maybe, but not top10 for sure. There are much better players from much better teams.
2011-12-31 19:42:42
much better players than karrigan in 2011? Are you full?
2012-01-01 02:14:23
not in order top 10
gtr
karigan
neo
markeloff
trace
taz
forest
fris
xizt
delpan
2011-12-31 18:47:17
1. NEo
2. f0rest
3. markeloff
4. gtr
5. TaZ
2011-12-31 18:49:45
forest eeee wake up bro
2011-12-31 21:17:23
NEo TOP1 Ofc :)
2011-12-31 18:50:18
by: jz-
#181
cool :D
2011-12-31 18:51:05
20? WTF
2011-12-31 18:52:34
I don't see Edward gettin in.
2011-12-31 19:04:07
For the blind people who thought starix > f0rest, here is ur answer. Btw, awesome work by HLTV, ur guys just rocks!
2011-12-31 19:07:33
starix > f0rest by aim skills. f0rest is really so overrated. he wasn't impressive this year. but a lot of stupid fanboys always screamed "F0rest-f0rest"
2011-12-31 19:41:59
thats bulshit
2011-12-31 20:10:34
Well, now its clearly obvious that aim is not only thing that counts, isn't it? Personally i don't think starix has this suburb aim like people say.
F0rest was 2006 best player and have been on top since 2006. You cant say he is overrated cause of his stupid fanboys, he deserves the recognition he has, doesn't matter how much fanboys scream "f0rest-f0rest!", therefore, f0rest is not overrated.
About starix, why a top aim player like him is top 20? Is he not a complete player or hes overrated at aim skills? I personally think his smarter as Edward is. Conclusion: Why f0rest is overrated instead of starix in your opinion? Why shouldn't i consider u a starix fanboy?
peace!
2011-12-31 20:22:00
2006 is 2006, now is 2011 and f0rest sucks.
2011-12-31 20:41:43
Sory, Cant u read the part "since"? Hes far from being sucking, today hes inconsistent, but still at top and clearly better then starix. Imo between top5-top10.
2011-12-31 20:49:42
i don't think he is able to be better than starix. Starix always performs great. he is 2nd consistent player after markeloff.
2011-12-31 22:14:56
Are u trolling me?
"Starix always performs great" , sure, that explains the 1.07 rating this year. Enough said.
Bye!
2011-12-31 22:34:03
He performs great vs top teams
2012-01-01 01:19:30
f0rest wasn´t impressive this year. What the fuck are you talking about? Please compare SK´s results 2011 with 2010. Thanks.
2012-01-01 21:32:54
GTR is definitly top rifler atm. top player 2009, top2 2010(top rifler 2010?) and top1/2 2011, three years in top2 players in the world, this guy now a legeng
2011-12-31 19:08:10
We can start comparing him to neo and f0rest now, hes truly a legend and one of the best ever touched this game. +1!
2011-12-31 19:27:20
true
2011-12-31 19:29:16
+123525251123
2011-12-31 19:49:13
gj starix
2011-12-31 19:08:57
:((
2011-12-31 19:25:39
top 10 neo gtr delpan karrigan friis taz markeloff moddii forest dosia/roman not in order
2011-12-31 20:01:29
delp who? hahahaha he is out of top10.
2011-12-31 20:45:45
That player is just amazing, and the impact he had on fnatic, and SK is the biggest proof of that.
He ended 10th in the past year, and he didn't play alot of tournaments with MYM, now with his level, i can see him top5 easily... even if he didn't play at his A-game in the last 2 tournaments!
2012-01-01 13:19:24
top1
f0rest/neo/get_right
OFC
2011-12-31 20:05:16
f0rest? are you mad? he was horrible.
2011-12-31 20:40:21
f0rest is far from being top 1 , sory. This fight is between neo and gtr only.
2011-12-31 20:47:07
top 1 ? Taz I think
2011-12-31 20:27:32
lol. count on it being GeT_RiGhT, small chance of Neo but i doubt it.
2011-12-31 20:35:47
small chance? LOL a lot lot bigger than gtr
2012-01-01 13:27:47
neo
gtr
karrigan
forest
taz
owwwwwwwwww yeah :D
2011-12-31 20:40:22
polish fanboys in ATTACKKK
2011-12-31 20:40:49
nice try, i am from argentina :D
2011-12-31 20:42:51
nice try, you're from Poland.
2011-12-31 20:45:07
nono, i am from argentina, you're ukraine? ok! :B
2011-12-31 20:47:23
I'm from Germany. But you're polish 100%.
2011-12-31 22:15:30
:lol: i'm polish? you ukraine, and you suck markeloff :lol:
2011-12-31 22:20:59
1.markeloff
2.neo
3.get_right
4.Edward
5.TaZ
2011-12-31 20:41:12
ukraine fanboys in ATTACKKK
2011-12-31 21:16:11
ukraine n00b :D
2011-12-31 21:53:34
are you retard? ok. go on with you, polish-trollish.
2011-12-31 22:16:09
oh sorry
1. neo
2. taz
3. pasha
4. loord
5. kuben

now ok?
2012-01-01 20:02:43
TaZ must be in top5 he is one of best riflers
2011-12-31 20:42:25
19. KUBEN
2011-12-31 20:52:16
FALLEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
2011-12-31 21:05:25
please stop saying that gtr is legend. f0rest and neo are legends and definitely better than him even now. f0rest and neo are guys that shine in tough matches, not gtr. he was great this year, top3 in my opinion, but it is absurd calling him legend.
2011-12-31 21:19:42
U say this, stats say otherwise.
2011-12-31 21:34:12
oh god
2011-12-31 22:15:42
2009 gtr top1 = gtr > neo and gtr > f0rest
2010 gtr top2 = gtr > neo and gtr > f0rest
2011 gtr top1/top2 = gtr > f0rest
I give you facts, not my opinion.
What about you? Can you give me facts why gtr shouldn't be called a legend like neo or f0rest?

2011-12-31 22:41:41
yep.
f0rest 2006 - the best player, 2007 - nominated 2008 - nominated 2009 -nominated , 2010 - 6th
2011 - top5 probably
neo 2007 - the best player 2008 nominated 2009 - nominated 2010 - 7th 2011 - the best player and player of decade
3 great years in a row doesn't make you a legend, but 5-6 does

Post edited 2011-12-31 22:47:00
2011-12-31 22:46:32
cry baby. Three years consecutive in top2 players in the world. tell me other player that doet this

ops: Fanboys can't put neo in the first place in that ranking

Post edited 2011-12-31 23:39:27
2011-12-31 23:28:14
well these two guys omg
2012-01-01 10:54:04
get right is a legend already, as long as objective stats are here he is the best in them, that makes him the first player that is the best OBJECTIVELY not by seeing some of his actions, but all of them in statistics...

he is the best player ever and also first ever by stats and that i think makes him a legend

it is like you say someone is in top10 for 5 years and wins important titles makes him a legend, but you deny a player that dominates CS statswise for 2 years, being #1 for 2 years objectively the title of a legend

plus the past years werent tracked, he could also be the best by statistics in them, people like you are just blind to stats when it comes to players like f0rest, he playes bad but OMG it's forest and you dont count it in your head, but stats do

Post edited 2011-12-31 23:43:43
2011-12-31 23:37:00
bro, this LOLfanboys will say he is eco-killer, but all ppl know he have that stats because he is the most consistent player ever. Just look he stats against everyone in everymap
2011-12-31 23:50:04
will u cry ?
2012-01-01 10:09:23
1- f0rest and neo are top 10 since 2006 and 2007 respc (top10= 1st or 2nd or 3th or 4th...), not top2.

2- Not 3 great years, 3 awesome years (top2)

3- GTR and f0rest dominated like never before in 3 years in a row (number of achievements). Reasons: teamplay, awesome IGL strats, f0rest... and of course GTR

Doesn't he prove that at least next year he will be at top 10 if he not quite the game? Why he cant be compared to f0rest and neo? u say that is needed 5-6 years top10 to be called a legend. 2 years ago i didnt know if he was really good or he was at a good phase, now pretty much everyone knows it. The man is a machine, hes knowledge about enemy position is just incredible. I truly believes legend is all about this, making things that are not possible. for me GTR did it, 5-6 top10 years wont change what i think of him: legend.
I respect ur opinion.
Peace out! Happy new year!
2012-01-01 00:13:51
do you really love neo?

at least get right loves anna :P
2011-12-31 21:57:23
starix improved greatly toward the end of 2011

id also like to see taz niko and kalle place high on this list
2011-12-31 21:53:33
gj Ischuk:))
2011-12-31 22:01:13
maybe his rolechange affected him a lot, and the team's playing style on the other side.
i guess they though that they need to change smth to keep 1st position but it's very hard to do that, especially now when sk is on fire :d
anyway, good job starix!
2011-12-31 22:08:32
1-GeT_RiGhT surely
2011-12-31 22:16:25
1-Neo or f0rest
dunno, someone from SK or ESC will be top1.
2011-12-31 22:18:56
neo first
2011-12-31 23:35:53
hey starix u'r awesome <3
2011-12-31 23:40:29
Neo must be first, guys are you really crazy or what? He win last and best event in this year WCG title, best rate at WCG and many MVP of major tournament's 2011 GUYS WAKE UP AND USE BRAIN Neo and f0rest are most complete players in cs history
1.neo
2.gtr
3.f0rest
4.markeloff
5.karrigan (he is really awesome monster)

Post edited 2011-12-31 23:48:56
2011-12-31 23:46:37
he have the best rate because he destroy againts "low teams" and make +4 in final. And like i said in other news, fanboys will put he in the top. rly, if you remove fanboys in the votes, you will see:

neo mvps -3
gtr mvps -2/3

ops:"if you remove fanboys in the votes"

edit:i will stop replying here, because i rly don't give a shit about what yours guys think, for me gtr best player since 2009.

Post edited 2012-01-01 00:05:29
2012-01-01 00:03:12
Whenever Neo was event's mvp, he had more expert's votes than public's.

Post edited 2012-01-01 13:07:19
2012-01-01 13:07:05
neo is noob for 5 years, taz is 25x better
2012-01-01 13:41:21
Agree
2012-01-01 14:28:49
WCG is best event ? :D funny ... look at the team they have been there ... macedonian and weak teams like that ... no lions, no fnatic, no Na'Vi, KerchNet etc. ... WCG is low tournament now, IEM or Dreamhack much better
2012-01-01 00:49:17
good job HLTV!
2012-01-01 00:12:14
markeloff n1
starix top20? kakakakakakakakakaakak
2012-01-01 00:14:02
nice
2012-01-01 00:18:50
are ignorant? markeloff have to be in the top three!
2012-01-01 00:22:54
happy new year to everyone, i wish you all best ! :D
2012-01-01 01:18:44
neo top1 I think
2012-01-01 01:39:56
buhauahahh imo markeloff :*
2012-01-01 01:55:20
POLAND vs SWEDEN
wcg 2006 1:0
wcg 2009 1:0 loord vs gtr 1:0(last round), neo vs f0rest 1:0
wcg 2011 1:0 neo vs f0rest 1:0
3:0 in WCG Cyber Olympiad where f0rest have 0 !!

so guys who must be THE ONE AND ONLY? MR. ANDERSON YES NEO ! UNDER HIM CAN BE F0REST OR GET RIGHT THEY DESERVER IT !
2012-01-01 01:58:33
nice for poland wcg kings

ops: cs its no wcg only

Post edited 2012-01-01 03:53:40
2012-01-01 03:52:58
when they will win other cups, not WCG then they will be pro.
2012-01-01 04:36:33
retard.
2012-01-01 09:06:17
WCG 2011 without mTw NaVi Lions fnatic ok?
2012-01-01 09:13:53
still they've beaten SK
2012-01-01 10:56:02
who cares cs is random they can beat SK and fall from Lions for example so stfu wcg 2011 was bullshit
2012-01-01 15:59:06
they had no orga at that time. they didn't have place to bootcamp at all.
2012-01-01 17:22:47
Awesome player but his awp...
2012-01-01 02:08:03
Sofokles : Starix top5
2012-01-01 03:07:08
2012 fucking
2012-01-01 03:08:28
1.f0rest
2012-01-01 04:35:28
Expected him to be top 10, but to be honest, he really didn't perform as well this year as he did in the last.
2012-01-01 05:43:44
I think neo wasn't good as in 2010. imo taz was better than him overall.

So my rank:

1. get right
2. markeloff
3. taz
4. karrigan
5. f0rest
6. friis
7. delpan
2012-01-01 07:14:46
total bullshit detected
2012-01-01 15:59:17
total fanboy detected!!!
2012-01-02 14:05:55
fanboy? You put mark,taz,karrigan,f0rest,friis,dekpan above neo =o who's fanboy? you are..
2012-01-02 14:15:28
getright, face
2012-01-01 08:11:43
19 cArn?
2012-01-01 08:22:37
NOPE;P
2012-01-01 10:21:34
top1 karrigan/f9rest^^^
2012-01-01 08:25:29
1.GeT_RiGhT
2012-01-01 09:07:02
nice starix!
19. FYRR73/kHRYSTAL
2012-01-01 11:01:05
by: nfr
#297
hope 2012 will be better year for navi :/

Post edited 2012-01-01 12:48:39
2012-01-01 12:48:22
good in 2011 for starix
2012-01-01 13:22:45
jigetus top 10
2012-01-01 13:32:16
hh :D nice one !!!
2012-01-01 13:32:42
TOP5 definitely
1. ESC ICY BOX | Neo
2. SK.GeT_RiGhT
3. Na 'Vi markeloff
4. ESC ICY BOX | TaZ
5. SK.f0rest
top10 probably
6. SK.Delpan
7. ESC ICY BOX | pasha
8. mousesports | karrigan
9. Na 'Vi Edward
10. fnatic.MSi Gux
top15 probably
11. fnatic.MSi Xizt
12. mTw | trace
13. fnatic.MSi Friis
14. mousesports | roman
15. kalle
2012-01-01 13:38:05
nasu/face

Post edited 2012-01-01 19:30:16
2012-01-01 19:29:37
i'd put aslak in top20 but not nasu. in my opinion face will be 16/17/18
2012-01-01 19:43:26
yeyeye, all ESC here. c'mon. Only neo/taz have chances.
2012-01-02 17:10:19
pasha MUST be there
2012-01-02 18:14:35
ESC = team of the year
2012-01-02 23:55:30
nice gj :)
2012-01-01 13:51:16
f0rest top3
2012-01-01 14:00:34
cmon can't wait to see who'll be 19th :]
2012-01-01 14:13:12
top player world ?
2012-01-01 14:16:26
go starix :)....nice
2012-01-01 14:23:37
#308 gj
2012-01-01 15:00:02
gogo, give #19 :D plx
2012-01-01 15:13:31
Best aimer in the world.

Post edited 2012-01-01 15:42:50
2012-01-01 15:42:42
one of the best maybe but definitely not the best ;}
2012-01-01 15:54:50
good job starix!
2012-01-01 16:06:40
everyone knows how great aimbot starix really is, but why isn't he so close to neo, gtr, f0rest? he is not as smart as the rest of them or what?
2012-01-01 16:15:50
1# cyx 2# dsn
2012-01-01 16:17:08
1. dead
2. retired
2012-01-01 20:18:34
he deserve better place he's a great player
2012-01-01 16:18:21
:| starix #1 PLAYER IN THE WORLD .. but rate and allthem sucks :X
2012-01-01 16:38:21
#1 NEO
#2 GTR
#3 karrigan
2012-01-01 16:52:31
nice good game starix! nice HLTV
2012-01-01 17:18:39
i can imagine whos above him... 20th starix gj,
2012-01-01 17:37:14
falleN THE BEST OF THE BEST !
2012-01-01 18:33:50
Where is everyone that says STARIX>>>>>>>GTR, NEO, f0rest together?

imo:
1. gtr
2. taz
3. neo

Post edited 2012-01-01 18:40:29
2012-01-01 18:39:30
top15-FalleN :)
2012-01-01 19:13:56
very unlikely to happen

GeT_RiGhT, NEO, markeloff, f0rest, trace, KaRRiGaN, pasha, roman, fRiis, TaZ, Edward, pita, Delpan, moddii, kalle, Delpan, face, zonic, kuben, starix... so many good players that I doubt FalleN will make it to the top20, as he didn't attend many events this year

Post edited 2012-01-01 22:15:27
2012-01-01 22:14:57
FalleN has no place in the top 20.
2012-01-01 22:16:56
starix so underrated :(
2012-01-01 20:15:18
agree this
2012-01-04 21:46:23
1. Neo
2. markeloff
3. GeT_RiGhT
2012-01-01 20:16:43
4. Taz
2012-01-01 20:59:50
So when is #19 coming up?
2012-01-01 20:21:10
MODDII top10
2012-01-01 20:50:38
1. Neo
2. GTR
3. TaZ
4. Markeloff
5. Friss
6. Edward
7. karrigan
8. Gux
9. Forest
10. Xizt
2012-01-01 21:03:00
taz above markeloff?) don't think so :)
2012-01-04 17:23:20
1. GeT_RiGhT =D
2012-01-01 22:07:30
Unfortunately, team had some inside conflicts which resulted in performance which was below 2010`s one. As a result, he couldn't excel his best performance. In 2012 he will be ingame leader, thus zeus will become madfragger while starix will go downfall a bit. However, i would assume that navi's performance will go upwards overall.
2012-01-01 22:36:28
NEO
GTR
Markeloff/f0rest
2012-01-01 22:41:44
not fair
2012-01-02 00:19:43
1.cArn
2012-01-02 04:16:36
bad year fot starix:(
2012-01-02 10:11:21
+1
2012-01-02 11:18:45
It's clear that neo was the best last year. GTR did nothing more than the norm, and IMO he didn't deserve the top five.. Forest played better, he played intelligently, not just rush and full auto like GTR. Markeloff was really amazing 2years ago, but know he is just good, so I think he will be about fifth place. It was really good year for Taz too, so i think we will see him in top20:).

Post edited 2012-01-02 14:48:48
2012-01-02 14:47:34
Really, Neo is a really good player, but in my opinion he is not the best player in the year! 2 years ago it was clear, that he is the best player, but now there are many other player that perform that well as Neo, like markeloff (i know i am a fan of Natus Vincere), GeT_RiGhT, fox, karrigaN, Friis, FYYR73 and many other guys. These guys SHINE in this year, like Neo did in 2009/2008, i dont remember. Ofc. he is one of the best players, but for the moment, there are players that just shine and playing incredible.
2012-01-04 12:11:46
Where Iz MARkeloff and Edward !? :p
2012-01-02 15:29:52
Edward in top10, markeloff is top3.
2012-01-02 17:09:00
starix...d best ...backup player...n finisher.....
2012-01-02 16:45:53
underrated...
2012-01-02 17:08:49
No good year for him , but he made some good things in this year ;]
I hope 2012 will be better for him !
KAMAN STARIX :)

Nice statistic by hltv.org ;]
2012-01-02 17:25:26
they're like the late mTw, almost all tournaments top 3 placings
2012-01-02 20:58:21
not fair, should be 15 place is as minimum, cause navi one of 3 best teams in the world(((
2012-01-02 21:26:07
http://d37nnnqwv9amwr.cloudfront.net/photos/images..

Post edited 2012-01-03 12:11:26
2012-01-03 12:11:12
the fun part is that I had Xizt pov and when he ate that in the face I told myself "wow what is starix doing!" xD
2012-01-03 10:44:55
top-1 lex !
gj serega
2012-01-03 16:51:44
lex? are you mad? he is top50-60...
2012-01-04 08:50:56
why 20? very low rated
2012-01-04 21:44:16
neo 2, he has bad finish
2012-01-04 21:50:01
WTF?!
starix-20 (((
2012-01-05 11:20:40
Great aimer, deserved 20th place. Nothing more, nothing less.
2012-01-05 20:38:03
1.Neo
2.markeloff
3.Taz
4.Get_right
5.face
6.forest
7.Gux
8.karrigan
9.friis
10.MAJ3R
2012-01-06 17:35:20

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