pauLy leaves EG, joins UMX
Time: 2012-01-02 03:33

With the rosters locking just hours ago for the current season of ESEA Invite, Paul "pauLy" Guerboyan has left Evil Geniuses to join up with Ultimax Gaming USA.

There had been plenty of rumours about a possibly change in the North American community as Guerboyan had been seen practicing often with UMX.US in the recent weeks as a ringer.

Guerboyan joined Evil Geniuses during the summer along with Jeff "hero" Mettetal to replace Danny "fRoD" Montaner and Tyler "Storm" Wood who ended up creating the current Check Six roster.

As the rosters have already been locked for the current season, EG who are currently sitting at a 5-5 record, will be forced to try to qualify for the LAN finals and attend with the following roster unless they choose to forfeit the current season.

Evil Geniuses:

Derek "dboorN" Boorn
Andrew "Irukandji" Timmerman
Dimitri "Kluluz" Primaky
Jordan "n0thing" Gilbert
Thomas "thoMz" Garcia

Primaky's most recent stint as a starter in ESEA Invite division was during season six when he played for Ruins before ultimately being replaced prior to the finals. He has not been a member of a team since, despite actively playing for fun.

UMX recently lost Ric "iNERTiA" Bundy to retirement and Ricky "sLip" Cohen to a lower level ESEA team. The team also lost its ZOWIE sponsorship for 2012, but still remains a part of the UMX organization.

Ultimax Gaming USA:

Kyle "flowsicK" Mendez
Daniel "impsta" Whaley
Paul "pauLy" Guerboyan
Nazar "steno" Vynnytsky
Chris "TRULS" Navratil

ESEA Invite Season 10 finals have been announced to take place on March 2-4 in Dallas, TX with a prize purse of $19,600, of which $10,000 will go to the winner of the event.

This move also makes it more likely for EG to skip over the IEM6 Global Challenge Kiev event, giving mousesports and Natus Vincere hope of making it to the event as the number one and two backup teams.


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by: spi-
#2
LOL, HE IS MAD?
2012-01-02 03:36:15
EG should just die already =\ this is getting depressing.
2012-01-02 03:36:20
by: spi-
#5
yeah, sad, usa cs was so strong in the past, what ever happened? :/

Post edited 2012-01-02 03:37:58
2012-01-02 03:37:33
CGS :)
2012-01-02 03:39:56
word brother!
2012-01-02 11:42:13
im not much into it. explain pls :>
2012-01-02 13:28:36
it was an old CS:S tournament, or league or whatever, IT WAS HUGE, huge prizes, huge names, huge matches, everybody changed to CS:S, well pretty much everybody, Zet went to USA to play it, old MIBR, frod, storm, warden, all the great american cs 1.6 players played CGS, so cs 1.6 pretty much died over there
2012-01-02 13:52:10
but all guys you mentioned came back to 1.6 as far as i know oO
2012-01-02 20:48:32
lol yeah cause cgs only had like 2 or 3 seasons.. zet came a lot lower than he used to.. and the point was: what was cgs :)
2012-01-02 22:39:37
$1,000,000 LAN, think it was 8 different games including C:SS

Birmingham SALVO went onto win it, something like $600,000 first place
2012-01-02 18:50:48
drmingham salvo is nowadays dignitas right?
2012-01-02 20:48:55
correct
2012-01-07 16:44:18
my countrymen fucking sold out and went to CGS, that's what happened sadly...
2012-01-02 04:01:57
and you wouldn't...
2012-01-03 01:46:57
idd, no point for them having a cs team anymore.
2012-01-02 03:40:15
by: Iruga
#9
Didn't a rumor come up from Irukandji saying that eg was done sponsoring cs after this year?
2012-01-02 03:41:11
There were a conversation with semphis somewhere (saw a screen) and Irukandji said that :p
Dunno if thats true
2012-01-02 03:45:15
Yeah contract is up now that 2011 is over.

I doubt pauLy wasn't up front about leaving EG, and even if he didn't say everything, he was practicing with UMX, so it was obvious to everyone.

Thus we can assume the players left on EG had no real interest in filling his role so do not care how their team does for the rest of the season, as rosters now are locked.

pauLy was the only player on EG with any motivation to play, so I'm glad to see he joined another one before EG entirely implodes.
2012-01-02 04:00:17
It's so sad how much money they put on SC2, they have super nice house for them and just added player. Why they can't just gather some good team with good IGL and pay them enough salary to live with?
2012-01-02 03:56:41
Because 1.6 isn't as big as SC2
2012-01-02 17:41:56
Kluluz? lOl
2012-01-02 03:37:11
Why they cant make USA team of top players?
2012-01-02 03:39:25
because most of the best players from NA counter-strike don't get along perfectly well, and there isn't enough sponsors to pay for it. It would take too much time for them to build chemistry and NA organizations just aren't willing to put the money in for cs 1.6, when CS:GO comes out, I think you will see a "dreamteam" of sorts.
2012-01-02 06:19:41
lmao, cs:go will just be the third cs title that NA fails considerably at.

Look at the showmatch where they lost to a bunch of 1.6 european players when the Americans themselves were major css players at a time.
2012-01-02 16:48:47
idk about you, but I have a CS:GO beta key. And I played it at IEM gc new york, and I can tell you. The game feels nothing like source or 1.6. It is a completely new game that needs some serious fixing.
2012-01-02 19:10:50
Considering it's based on an updated source engine then obviously it's more sourcelike.
2012-01-02 23:00:59
At least 2 of the US players haven't been actively playing FPS for a long time, that match showed nothing.
2012-01-03 03:22:46
They also had like twice/three times more practice on cs:go than the europeans.
2012-01-03 12:34:53
by: zyZ
#160
cuz ESEA has produced nothing but shitty players who don't know what teamwork is
2012-01-02 19:31:49
because there is no money in US for cs, organizations would rather put money towards other games which are more "popular". After all, at the end of the day it is all about money and lets be honest, 30,000 prize pool split between 5 players and the organizations does not fair well when you have a game like SC2 conquering the US scene atm.
2012-01-04 23:57:47
thanks guys
2012-01-06 13:27:23
This proves that EG doens't pay salaries to players, and they are really lacking of motivate to play. Good choise by Pauly.
2012-01-02 03:42:56
their contract did finish today :)
2012-01-02 04:10:54
UMX>EG
2012-01-02 03:45:30
+1
2012-01-02 06:49:46
n0thing > america
2012-01-02 12:58:49
hahah, not:(
2012-01-02 15:59:28
ofc yes
2012-01-02 18:13:51
true story :)
2012-01-02 19:52:28
EG not even posting news about their CS division just says it all. Shut it down already.
2012-01-02 03:49:03
EG is focusing on SC2 now
2012-01-04 23:58:40
I feel sorry for n0thing, such potential. Since national teams have been mixing up in 2011 (such as fnatic getting friis and mouz getting zonic and karrigan), it's a shame n0thing didn't get recruited into a top team. Unless he has to be Danish to get taken from his own scene? XD (jk)

Anyway GL in UMX pauly.
2012-01-02 03:52:31
trace+n0thing o.O
2012-01-02 04:32:16
it's a big step from america to europe. and for euro topteams there's quite some choice in their own continent with the same talented players.
2012-01-02 06:32:48
WoW.. gl boy!
2012-01-02 03:53:22
EG dead
2012-01-02 03:53:48
n0thing, Trace, MODDII, Acc and BARBARR :D
2012-01-02 03:56:00
why not?There's soo many players in Europe!
2012-01-02 09:02:44
If n0thing wanted play in Europe he would have been gone for years ago. BARBARR took a brake from cs. Acc is in a new team, MODDII might be joining LIONS, and I dont think Trace will join them, couse norich orga can pay Trace that Salary he wants ( No orga who is avaliable.
2012-01-03 00:38:49
sad (
2012-01-03 09:53:20
trace to EG
2012-01-02 03:57:57
by: fzZ
#20
R.i.p EG
2012-01-02 03:58:19
yea after frod & storm left EG american cs is pretty much scre*ed
2012-01-02 03:59:22
since lurppis left lol
2012-01-02 06:37:04
Lurppis was kicked, he didn't just leave
2012-01-02 13:21:52
i can't remember, why
2012-01-02 15:21:07
lurppis and fr0d didn't remain in harmony...
2012-01-02 15:34:47
they didn't leave. they were kicked

and eg stopped practicing before they left, so if your claim is that eg (composed of frod and n0thing) dying killed american cs, then it occurred before they left.
2012-01-02 17:35:27
by: Erly
#23
+ fRod
2012-01-02 04:01:32
EG should pick fRoD Storm inmediatly

Post edited 2012-01-02 04:02:13
2012-01-02 04:01:38
is this Kluluz any good?
2012-01-02 04:07:12
hes a n0thing friend, hes never playing with them
2012-01-02 04:13:57
he has played with them actually http://esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&..

but yeah he basically just roster rides
2012-01-02 07:08:56
naa i play vs kluluz in esea , hes not good , is normal player... nothing special
2012-01-02 18:38:18
hmm thank you :)
but he will be just a stand-in for the ESEA Invite, right?
2012-01-02 18:40:10
yea i guess , but this guy for me dont have the skill level to play competitive !

EG < UMX
2012-01-02 18:58:22
yep I hope eg make a deal with dizzaman =) he is really good
2012-01-02 19:32:32


EG.n0thing
EG.fRoD
EG.Storm
EG.swag
EG.sgares
2012-01-02 04:13:56
n0thing
dboorn
sgares
semphis
swag

1 TIME GOGOGO
2012-01-02 04:14:40
by: spi-
#35
+1 the best american shot
2012-01-02 04:41:06
promising lineup.. doubt it will ever happen though
2012-01-05 21:04:44
i think its kinda sad, but i think its also pretty good that eg doesnt care about there cs 1.6 team anymore, i would love to see mousesports @ iem in ukraine instead of eg ;) i guess it will happen now
2012-01-02 04:15:25
Wow that awesome gl eg and umx
2012-01-02 04:29:01
rip eg
2012-01-02 04:29:36
by: tSN-
#36
As I said a few months ago from a very reliable source that EG will get rid of the CS team because they dont make money off of it anymore they want to focus on SC2 and maybe CSGO if its big.
2012-01-02 04:42:26
EG.n0thing
EG.fRoD
EG.Storm
EG.dizzaman
EG.dboorN
2012-01-02 04:57:26
ive heard kluluz is clueless. GOT IT?!?! ANYONE? :(
2012-01-02 04:57:47
:( is right.

>:\
2012-01-02 05:30:05
hahahha
2012-01-02 15:27:31
J U D A S
2012-01-02 05:05:26
Would be so cool if some american and danish stars could bunch up and form a new form of NoA.
Maybe n0thing, trace, swag, -INSERTIGLHERE-, and friis. Would be kinda cool to see something like that imo. DoA :D
2012-01-02 05:24:12
poor nothing, once the CGS rolled round he shoulda learned swedish.
2012-01-02 05:29:36
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#54
he was completely unknown before CGS, in fact he had his first success in 2008 during the second season of CGS and most of his accomplishments are post-CGS
2012-01-02 06:36:42
I wouldn't say completely. I mean, he certainly wasn't in the spotlight but certainly he was playing well domestically and must of known of his talent before then in eMg and check6, maybe even turmoil. I was in england at the time, was he also in excello and idemise?

regardless, i think it's too bad things haven't worked out quite as well as perhaps he deserves.
2012-01-02 08:05:22
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#69
he was 17 when i met him at iem ii la in oct 2007 and i was introduced to him by jimmy "foogz" fogle and trust me, he was unknown then. he joined turmoil at the end of 2007, then emg in 2008 (january) and that team became eg.cs

in fact, he has cgs to thank for getting his first chance with the top teams in the nation, regardless of his talent.

i like jordan and i feel bad for him but he much like everyone else on eg have made their choices, this is just the path they took :).
2012-01-02 08:08:07
You're quite right, there's a road you choose and all the bumps that go along with it.
2012-01-02 08:59:56
"i like jordan and i feel bad for him but he much like everyone else on eg have made their choices, this is just the path they took :)"

i guess this sentence tell us more about u then about them...
2012-01-02 13:57:33
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#110
it wasn't supposed to tell you anything about them. i was just implying they made their bed so they also have to lay in it :)
2012-01-02 14:24:51
THEY DIG THEIR OWN GRAVE
2012-01-02 16:42:44
it wasnt supposed to us anything about them or about u? :)
2012-01-02 19:56:44
As semi-pro he was known many years ago, @CAL for example - he was inet boy back then :D.
2012-01-02 12:44:48
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#101
by that logic anyone is known because if you care enough about the lower leagues you will know every player who is there. what i meant was he was not considered to be anywhere close to being one of the best players in the continent.
2012-01-02 13:23:50
I know you aren't from America obviously, but Jordan was well known as being a beast before that.. People knew was good when he was like 13-14.. He couldn't go to tourney's and a lot of people thought someone that young that was that good at cs HAD to be cheating. He's been around a long time. I quit playing competitively around 6-7 years ago and I knew who he was at that time. You can say all you want about CAL, but that was all America had..
2012-01-03 07:32:07
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#197
i could ask 10 different old school top players and they wouldn't know who he was before he released his movie.
2012-01-03 15:05:57
I'm sure you could. I also could ask 10 different old school players and they would know who he was. It really depends on what coast they are on.
2012-01-03 18:22:26
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#200
which proves my exact point, he was unknown. if it had to be local west coast people to know him, it meant he wasn't good enough to be really known. i don't care if he was in cevo-main or went to lans, if you're not in one of the best teams in the country or considered one of the best players, you aren't what i deem "known" in this conversation.

edit: for example theres like 4 teams now in esea-i that have no players i've ever heard of at all, talking to semphis he tells me about players i've never heard of daily. just because they're invite doesn't make them known.

Post edited 2012-01-03 21:03:33
2012-01-03 21:02:49
3 mid level teams (x6, eg, umx)... they have to make a top level team mixing some players of the three teams.. like

fRoD
n0thing
Storm
steno
Pauly
2012-01-02 05:41:33
So what will n0thing make a new top USA team or will their scene die forever?
2012-01-02 05:42:20
by: mah9
#45
are you sure about kluluz? he has been on their roster for a long time, not sure that means he is their 5th starter.
2012-01-02 05:47:09
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#49
not sure, but the rosters are locked for this season so they can either play with kluluz or forfeit the rest of the season.
2012-01-02 06:15:01
Hey lurrp cant you coax n0thing into coming to Winfakt??
2012-01-02 08:11:01
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#71
he doesn't speak finnish and we don't make enough money for him it to be worth it to move abroad anyways :)
2012-01-02 08:11:59
by: br4t
#77
yeah 1.6 has so less prize money these days :/
2012-01-02 10:40:46
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#82
prize money was never enough unless you're #1 in the world, it comes down to salary etc more so than anything else, and it's hard to justify moving to another continent to begin with
2012-01-02 10:55:34
by: nfr
#93
but he still can move to finland or not just finland, and learn country language like a zonic.
2012-01-02 12:21:12
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#100
zonic isn't moving anywhere, he can play from denmark just fine and everyone in denmark (afaik) has to learn some basic german in school so he probably already has the basics down.

the moving to another continent part is a lot harder to justify than learning a new language, especially with how little cs 1.6 seems to have left - moving to another continent isn't something most people take lightly.
2012-01-02 13:22:22
by: nfr
#107
well you have experiance about this, but its a pity
2012-01-02 14:08:09
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#111
sure, but i always wanted to live abroad to begin with, i spoke english really well already before moving so the only issue for me was school, which is easy to postpone (here anyways). on top of that, cs 1.6 was doing much better :)
2012-01-02 14:27:49
finnish is not german, its really very hard to learn
2012-01-02 16:26:12
by: nfr
#132
okay, lets say finnish is hard, but imagine team for example fnatic, you think that there is someone who cant speak english?:)
2012-01-02 17:04:39
lol you really want him to move to europe at any cost? He simply won't move, it's much better when everyone speaks the same language in a line up, btw I doubt fnatic's players' English is good enough for that, besides cArn's
2012-01-02 17:16:58
wow they can't add someone after the season started? that's one lame rule tbh

Post edited 2012-01-02 16:28:36
2012-01-02 16:27:57
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#142
no, the rosters lock a couple of weeks before the finals to stop clanhopping, they are allowed to change 3 players just like in old IEM seasons. 6/8th of the season is already complete so it's a reasonable time to lock it imo.
2012-01-02 18:20:45
by: sike
#46
i think kluluz is just temporary until they find someone. if they all dont just part ways with EG and each other, which i think would be for the best. but lets be honest in USA sc2 has now officially over shadowed cs 1.6... :(

Post edited 2012-01-02 05:51:19
2012-01-02 05:49:48
i don't even think they'll look for someone else they didn't even practice

Post edited 2012-01-02 06:39:16
2012-01-02 06:38:58
they should call FODDER as a substitute
2012-01-02 12:10:33
Anyone else happy that the CS scene is dying in NA? Or just me?
2012-01-02 05:59:14
by: sike
#48
well NA 1.6 dying is completely NA's pros own fault as they all thought taking the "HIGH" road and switching to the CGS was smart. but, they were wrong.
2012-01-02 06:06:50
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#56
north american cs is doing just as "well" as the international cs, cgs had nothing to do with it - at least those players made $60k or so in salary, far more than they could have ever made playing cs 1.6 during the same period of time.
2012-01-02 06:38:54
It still killed most of the scene, since all the players switched to source in order to compete in CGS.

CGS and DirectTV, at that point, had some great visions, and Valve was in their pocket. Probably the best shot eSport has ever had, trying to professionalize it all.

Only bad thing was, that Valve would't allow CS 1.6 to be shown in TV, only Source. And a lot of things didnt work out, their league system, and the draft system, like in NFL and NHL. They tried to much to americanize the scene, and that was what killed it all, and you know it.
2012-01-02 16:37:48
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#143
the scene was fine in 2009-2010
2012-01-02 18:22:02
And yet so far from the European top niveau. Neither coL or EG was an absolute topteam, like the old coL and Team3D, zEx etc

Post edited 2012-01-02 18:31:25
2012-01-02 18:29:55
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#152
coL was a top team in 2005-2006 but 3D and especially zEx never were. 3D had some good tourneys here and there, but mostly placed around 7-12th. zEx' only achievement ever was beating eoL thanks to a 1/10000000 AWP shot, they never did anything as a team.

North American CS has ALWAYS been far from European top level, even during coL days it was only one team, and they struggled domestically vs 3D and had some weak placings as well (17-32 @ CPL Winter 2006, 9-12 @ CPL Winter 2005 etc).

coL did win ESWC 2005 though so can't take anything away from them there, we never achieved anything that big in 2009-2010.
2012-01-02 18:51:12
For sure NA CS never reached top European niveau, but still, Team3D and coL did good at the good old CPL event and WSVG. Also, the old NoA team winning CPL Winther 2004. American players did leave a mark on the international CS scene, surely.
2012-01-02 18:56:59
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#155
The last CPL event 3D did well in is CPL Summer 2003, since then they haven't broken the top7. They did place 3rd at WSVG Finals however along with two WCG placings in CS:CZ and CS:S.

NoA doesn't count as an American team to me seeing as I think XeqtR/element/Naikon were far more important to the team than shaGuar and method.
2012-01-02 18:58:54
Yeah you are probably right, I just always thoud, that 3D was a great team, but I wasent even around when CGS came into the big picture, i've read some old newsposts at XplayN.com.

But lets leave it here, since you probably "won" this discussion fair and square :).
2012-01-02 19:04:07
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#157
if you're interested in more 3D history take a look at http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/35861-28_Rambo_mo.. since Rambo was always on 3D that wraps 3D up pretty well too
2012-01-02 19:06:31
so lurppis, do you think cs:go will create a new wave of cs players that we desperately need, or is the 1.6 scene just going to continue to fizzle out?
2012-01-02 23:36:01
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#182
of course new kids will start playing cs:go, but i'm not sure how many of the old 1.6 players will
2012-01-03 00:51:59
wtf is kluluz? Pauly must've not informed EG of his intentions til the last minute.
2012-01-02 06:25:13
Do you really believe that? I know you're from ESEA, and everyone on ESEA suspected pauLy would join UMX, given that he was practicing with them since last Tuesday, so why wouldn't EG have known?

More likely they didn't care, since they haven't put any work into this season so far.
2012-01-02 07:14:06
+1
2012-01-02 07:32:10
n0thing to UMX!

Post edited 2012-01-02 06:31:22
2012-01-02 06:31:10
LOL, rip EG
2012-01-02 06:38:57
kuluz is just a standin(n0things friend)

if they dont get storm and/or at least frod back
they should seriously forget the cs squad

they should kick irukandji thomz and dboorn and pick up storm xp3 frod and dizza or maybe warden if he gets back in shape :D

Post edited 2012-01-02 07:10:42
2012-01-02 07:02:41
fRoD n0thing Warden hiko dizzaman = imo the best possible team in US
2012-01-02 07:16:40
funny that you'd mention that (;
2012-01-02 08:00:34
to bad..EG 2009-2010 was so strong :(
2012-01-02 08:01:37
makes sense to leave the only good team in NA to create 3 mediocre ones..GG
2012-01-02 09:23:27
it's shocking n0thing is still with EG after all these shake ups... they must of coughed up a nice salary to have him by the balls like that..., hopefully whatever ties to EG ends soon , so he can still see some glory w/ a EURO team .. where he belongs...
2012-01-02 10:03:46
by: KB24
#78
ofcourse EG are paying him higher sallary, he's like "THE FACE" of EG. He's doing shootout's and other things for EG sponsors.
2012-01-02 10:43:08
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#83
he doesn't speak any other language which is enough to guarantee he will never join a european team, not that he would even if he did (he'd have to quit his job at gunnar, change his entire life etc).
2012-01-02 10:58:16
What's wrong with all the NA scene? Is it a sponsorship/money problem? The separation of talented players?

I mean, it took just a high level igl like you to change completely a team and get alot better at international events. It seems that the lack of talent it's not the problem and that's sad because they have all the potencial, but for some reason they never get to that next level like top Euro teams, you know what I mean?

I'm sorry I'm bothering you, but you're the one who can give us a more insightful thought of what's going on with CS scene in general over NA.

Thanks
2012-01-03 00:50:13
I would appreciate an answer
2012-01-03 01:49:08
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#198
calm down, people need to sleep :p

lack of good leaders and motivation overall, there aren't motivated leaders to keep teams together and work on things and if they don't get trips abroad instantly etc they lose motivation.

back2back doesn't have either problem so i hope they can win this upcoming esea season and possibly go to some tournies soon
2012-01-03 15:07:26
oh c'mon lurppis... english as a first language will keep him out of any potential euro teams?

1. anyone can learn a language if they immerse themselves in that culture for 2-3 months.. especially n0thing. he's one of the smartest players in cs, and would easily adapt to culture, language, euro nuisances.

2. who doesn't speak english?

3. cs speaks in it's own language... despite verbal language barriers

4. it's probably a bit late in teh game for n0thing to make such a dedicated move, career change... but if anyone in the US can follow in method/shag's footsteps, he can.
2012-01-09 00:33:43
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#215
1. he won't do that, i know him a lot better than you do and i can promise you that won't happen. he has an insane aim due to natural talent but he isn't one of the smartest players, not that it has anything to do with adapting to culture

2. euros won't speak english because as good as n0thing is, he isn't out of this world so it wouldn't be worth it for any team to have 4 players switch to another language. communication makes the biggest difference in cs and it actually isn't that easy to comm everything lightning fast without thinking about it

3. negative, to be a really good team you need insane communication which requires you to speak the same language, i'm sure you can pug without any language though, since you don't really even need to talk (e.g. esea)

4. method/shag never moved abroad, noa just bootcamped for a week or two before events in the us/brazil/sweden and attended it, so it's not the same at all. and yes, unless cs 1.6 magically gets more popular it is a bit too late.
2012-01-09 00:46:59
by: zook
#76
trace karrigan zonic friss n0thing > all
2012-01-02 10:06:13
- nothing + arcadion and you have a team
2012-01-02 10:46:46
sorry dude but n0thing ( with deagle ) is 100x better than ArcadioN ( with ak-47 ) hahahah
2012-01-02 15:58:59
Sure, that's probably why EG went to many, many finals in 2011.
2012-01-02 16:51:36
n0thing is just one player, he cant do n0thing alone
2012-01-02 22:45:19
No shit.
2012-01-03 00:07:17
did i say different?... with n0thing they dont have a igl... arcadion is one... cant see your problem
2012-01-02 17:10:36
sure, you right, they need one IGL, but I prefer ave to do this role tbh...
2012-01-02 22:46:29
There is no team which can be #1 until end of world, so EG must lose some several events, bring in new players and continue playing as good and #1 team of America, until they reach their old form, Check Six or UMX (probably) will be the #1 of America in CS 1.6 . That's a fact ^^

GL to n0thing, I always love him, and I think he deserved to play in some European team =)
2012-01-02 10:43:32
Where did Jeff "hero" Mettetal go?
2012-01-02 10:51:37
quit awhile back. there's a news article hear about it
2012-01-02 17:44:09
ggbb EG
sad
2012-01-02 11:24:49
EG + fRoD, Storm
2012-01-02 11:48:12
+1 man
2012-01-02 11:50:14
by: wmbo
#90
EG cutting cs squad
2012-01-02 12:02:08
EG.n0thing
EG.dboorN
EG.fRoD
EG.Storm
EG.hero

<333
2012-01-02 12:20:43
no igl and two awpers
2012-01-03 02:26:38
dont worry, n0thing will be everything :D
2012-01-03 12:12:00
Pls n0thing transfer to europe :) and you will be very perfect , forexample in lions of eSAHARA of fnatic . fnatic need player like U <3 n0thing the best and perfect player
2012-01-02 12:40:11
This looks like chemistry thing. UMX lineup looks good, they can do some damage in USA scene.
2012-01-02 13:11:03
truls has been the weak link of umx since their inception a year ago

sadly there are only two original players left, and he's one of them.

that said, with practice they could indeed do damage in usa, but that does not say they are a good team :p
2012-01-02 17:47:37
who the hell is Dimitri "Kluluz" Primaky ?

gogo UMX.
2012-01-02 13:29:50
It's a friend of them, not a top level NA player as far as I know.
2012-01-03 01:06:58
kluluz clueless
2012-01-02 13:55:46
EG rose to level of top teams, when lurppis joined them (and he was IGL). EG's downfall started just when lurppis left EG.

All best teams have excellent IGL and none of american teams now have one.
2012-01-02 14:16:53
+1
2012-01-02 15:13:28
+1 considering that they really have a "great" NA igl, so they need to form a aim dream-team if they want to have a shot against european teams...that means n0thing, sgares, pauly, semphis and igl in a team (maybe even swag)
2012-01-02 19:56:24
EGs downfall started when goodfornothing retired
2012-01-03 02:27:44
eg low team
2012-01-02 14:19:54
who's the igl now?
2012-01-02 14:40:13
it's really a shocking news about NA's scene.
but it's certainly great to see pauLy going to UMX, they are potential and full of motivation.
cheer for anyone! :D
2012-01-02 14:57:32
It's sad how n0thing throw away all his skills by playing with a unmotivated team.
2012-01-02 15:43:43
EG.fRoD
EG.n0thing
+3

true story
2012-01-02 15:56:12
-1
+me
2012-01-03 12:12:45
bad for eg ;/ gl
2012-01-02 15:58:22
UMX > EG but n0thing > USA
2012-01-02 16:11:25
epicly huge mistake when EG let lurppis go, this will always be their greatest lineup


EG.lurppis
EG.Storm
EG.fRoD
EG.n0thing
EG.GoodForNothing
2012-01-02 16:21:49
yea this is the best EG ! for me When win msi beat it
2012-01-02 18:40:01
EG was a good team in the past, but know .. its like MiBR, never will back without the old line !
2012-01-02 16:46:57
interesting
2012-01-02 17:10:58
Nothing, Goodfornothing, Frod, Swag & Deacon

gl guys!

Post edited 2012-01-02 17:54:07
2012-01-02 17:53:23
What is CGS pls ?????????????????????????????????????????????????
2012-01-02 18:23:37
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#150
I link you to the English version because the Spanish one is a bit "low",

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Championship_Gaming_S..
2012-01-02 18:45:17
Great info, ty :)
2012-01-02 20:23:15
EG fRoD
EG n0thing
EG dizzaman
EG storm
EG irukandji

:)
2012-01-02 18:39:20
not bad, i like. only if they took it serious though.
2012-01-02 21:30:35
great addition for UMX:) pauly pwns
2012-01-02 19:18:39
EG needs dizzaman
2012-01-03 09:08:35
by: zyZ
#162
gonna practice my headshotting so i can join jgilz in protecting america
2012-01-02 19:34:58
doesn't matter still have n0thing
2012-01-02 19:52:55
USA cs will die when ESEA stop with cs.
2012-01-02 21:31:34
EG dead totally -.-
Sad for them.
2012-01-02 21:44:20
1.FROD 2. PAULY :((((
2012-01-02 23:09:46
EG needs fRoD/Volcano/sunman/Storm. Just someone to put an end to this misery.
2012-01-03 07:09:02
n0thing frod and pauly need to unite ... they will easily reclaim top10
2012-01-03 07:57:42
eg is bad without danny and tyler
2012-01-04 00:30:24
Wow!! First name basis!! Awesom3!!
2012-01-04 00:42:04
why don't they just sort out their management and sponsors and add sgares?
2012-01-04 01:16:40
frod+storm+n0thing,,, put 2 random players and it will work,
2012-01-04 01:24:48
whatever
2012-01-04 04:57:48
NA needs a superstar team...only chance of competing internationally
2012-01-06 07:35:33
Everything that's wrong!
I already knew ... when "slip" UMX left, I knew a
EG player would join the UMX, EG is coming to an end
gradually losing player for player.
And if they play this tourney and lose the excuse will be
pauly have left the team to occur near the tourney
2012-01-06 21:09:57
EG is done.. nuff said. none of these guys in the current crop have enuff intl exp to really get their foot in the door.. and by the time they conquer the learning curve... we'll probably be moving on to cs go or something =\

Post edited 2012-01-09 00:38:09
2012-01-09 00:37:40

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