Is Check Six fRoD and co.? If so, probably because the whole reason EG split up in the first place is because fRoD and n0thing don't get on. Not 100%, but that's what I heard.

I apologize in advance for the long as fuck post, tl;dr version at the bottom.

I agree that the US scene has been dying since the CGS but the rest of the scene isn't doing too well either.

Just bring up the news archive for 2011 here at HLTV and you would see that a lot of influential players have stopped playing for one reason or another in 2011 alone. Guys like solo, bail, dsn, ave and now Irukandji who is arguably one of the better American players. Those are just names that come to mind, I'm sure I'm missing quite a few influential players not only in respect to the world but also in respect to any given region.

It wont be long before the guys from SK, fnatic, NaVi, mousesports ect disband if the competition continues to disappear and the money to send them to events stops rolling in. Its a cruel, sad truth of the matter. I don't challenge these guys passion for the game but I'm quite sure players will stop playing when the money stops coming and there is no reason to blame anyone for doing so.

What can we do? Well, there are two options, in my opinion. We can make a push for CSP or we can get our hands dirty and make CS:GO into a better game. In all honesty, the latter is the smarter move. Before you verbally rip me apart, allow me to explain.

I think we should support CSP. There was a time about a couple years ago where CSP was in a really good place but the problem was nobody was playing the game and people would attack their project without even playing it. Its a great game, and its not where it should be in terms of being in the competitive circuit but their recent push to move the game ahead has been really inspirational. They welcomed 2 new weapon modelers and a new player modeler to their team. They are in the process of remaking Dust2 from scratch and they are planning on bringing their project out of beta before the end of 2012. There is a lot of potential there.

Here is the problem with CSP and why CS:GO may be the smarter move for this scene to migrate to. CSP wont be a game that brings back old players. CSP will be like 1.6 and those who are the best right now will be the best in CSP and that means the results wont change and it wont "reset" things. If a player like heaton or Spawn or even Irukandji or fr0d or ksharp or method or shaguar or all these players who have quit over the year, wanted to make a return with whatever new game we go for, they wouldn't stand a chance and we would be in the same situation where the same teams are placing high and events are generally less interesting to watch than say circa 2001-2006.

CS:GO isn't a good game right. It really isn't. The thing is though, its fixable. When I say fixable, I don't mean that we can make it like 1.6, I mean that we can make it a respectable competitive game by its own right and that's what this community needs. It needs a new Counter-Strike that is competitively viable but still its own game that asks for similar but not the same skill set from 1.6. It needs to be a game where anyone who has an understanding of theory and concepts in 1.6 can make the switch and play but it also needs to be a game that doesn't mimic spray patterns, spam spots or player movement because then we wont be going anywhere. We would be in the same place and there would be no incentive for players to try and overcome players who have a ton more experience.

I love to use the example of Street Fighter. With Street Fighter 3, there were a lot of great players. Tokido, Daigo, Gootecks, Justin Wong, just to name a few. When Street Fighter 4 came out, it was a vastly different game but these players remained in the running because of their understanding of the game since Street Fighter 2 and that's great.

The thing is though, a ton of players who never even touched a Street Fighter game jumped into the mix and the community grew exponentially. Now instead of having 100-200 people in a room watching an event, you had thousands and even a few more on streams and the scene had expanded in a way unlike before. Players who had quit years ago had returned, new players were competing with these legends from previous games and there is a generally awesome environment.

tl;dr: CS is dying but there is hope in CSP and CS:GO. CSP needs support and a community of players willing to play their game and CS:GO needs players who are willing to help make a new competitive game that doesn't mimic 1.6 but instead is a new game entirely.

Post edited 2012-01-07 01:03:29

top team : umx.us

Of course I only mean CS.

yes really sad

Just mix k1ck's fox, xhiroz, fallen, n0thing and 1 igl. Would be such a pleasure to watch

are u sure ? cuz mouz is before navi's spot..

years

nevermind this post, it was a statement by someone using the name but not the real person

not as much as Na`Vi.

U MAD?

because they will go to IEM VI Global Challenge Kiev instead of EG

^_^

i read it and i ask him a quetion? thats all seems to me strange... on global tournament all teams from europe, no american team no asian team... CS 1.6 dead? and why NaVi to replace EG? if second american qualifier is Check Six???? Where`s Asian Teams?

Post edited 2012-01-07 13:05:42

if u want u can look around the internet more interviews like with NaVi manager:http://place2play.ru/material?id=7942 and others and all telling a same, cs 1.6 going to be out of competition and dead...

Post edited 2012-01-07 13:20:13