Changes in WinFakt; allu & H^N join
By: GoMeZ
Time: 2012-01-08 16:32

Six months after the team was founded as paistit, WinFakt has recruited Aleksi "allu" Jalli and Hannu "H^N" Pohjalainen to fill the void left by departures of Jirka "jigetus" Ryhti and Niko "naSu" Kovanen.

The Finns became a part of WinFakt for e-Stars and have since then attended multiple international tournaments and secured themselves a spot among the top teams in the world with various top three finishes.

According to team captain Tomi "lurppis" Kovanen the team's main problem in the past months has been lack of solid practice which was limited a lot by Ryhti's work schedule. This move should give the team the ability to put in more practice.


WinFakt at IEM6 Global Challenge New York prize ceremony

The same time issues caused by Niko Kovanen and Ryhti were also the cause of WinFakt skipping over DreamHack Winter as they were unable to take time off of work and school. Both Niko Kovanen and Ryhti will go inactive and won't be joining another team.

Tomi Kovanen continued, saying Jalli and Pohjalainen are both extremely motivated and players of the newer and hungrier generation just like Verkkoperä and Fagerholm which should bode well for the team.

Jalli is best known as a former teammate of Verkkoperä in munkka and more recently played for aNimus at Digifest. Pohjalainen has previously played for Online Kingdom with Fagerholm, managing upset wins over mTw and Lions at Xperia Play last Spring.

WinFakt

Aleksi "allu" Jalli
Timi "aslak" Verkkoperä
Kimmo "BASiC" Fagerholm
Hannu "H^N" Pohjalainen
Tomi "lurppis" Kovanen

WinFakt is currently bootcamping at SETT's offices in Helsinki and will continue to do so until their debut event with the new lineup, LanTrek 2012 on January 13-15 in Tampere, Finland.

Later this month they will attend IEM6 Global Challenge Kiev on January 19-22 where they will face fnatic, Moscow Five and mousesports in group B. WinFakt is also already qualified for IEM6 World Championships.

Tags: WinFakt, allu, aslak, lurppis, H^N, jigetus, naSu, IEM6 Global Challenge Kiev, BASiC

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nice move

Post edited 2012-01-08 16:33:22
2012-01-08 16:32:58
Niko "naSu" Kovanen
Tomi "lurppis" Kovanen
are they brothers ? :D
2012-01-08 16:52:07
ye
2012-01-08 16:53:45
yes, they are.
2012-01-08 16:54:24
thanx
2012-01-08 16:56:26
new sherlock !
2012-01-08 16:59:12
:D
2012-01-08 17:02:34
by: HuI
#136
xDD
2012-01-08 17:16:31
rofl
2012-01-08 18:40:02
HAHAHHAHA funny
2012-01-10 20:27:29
Verkkoperä has a brother too @ aNimus-gaming "zabaz"
2012-01-08 21:12:10
H^N back from army?
2012-01-08 18:49:33
yea. He had only half year command.
2012-01-08 19:26:02
why?
2012-01-08 21:27:34
on finland you usually have to be 1 year in army. But if you want you can try to change it to ½ year. All who wants cant get ½ year command but H^N might have good reason or then he was lucky.
2012-01-08 21:30:38
or he knew some1 from the inside :) usually how things work here in Portugal when it comes to the army or the police :)
2012-01-08 22:54:20
im pretty sure it didnt go like that. There is some people who gets ½year command and they dont know anyone from the inside :D And if he would of knew someone he wouldnt have rights to let Hannu leave earlier :)
2012-01-09 15:00:26
great
2012-01-08 16:33:06
indeed, looks like winfakt got far more firepower now. awesome aimers in town!
2012-01-09 00:14:41
agreed!
2012-01-09 10:56:56
by: do_ob
#3
wow! nice news
2012-01-08 16:33:14
It's good or bad for them?
2012-01-08 16:33:24
It should be good for the team, as they can practice more now :) however jigetus and nasu were much better individually than allu and H^N imo.
2012-01-08 16:45:08
They're young and motivated.. the fact that the team practices more makes them better as a team.
2012-01-08 17:18:44
so if me and 4 friends of mine play 24/7 that will makes better than SK? :s

that a bad comparison i know, but nevertheless, i dont think this team can get any better than they were with nasu and jigetus :s hope im wrong though
2012-01-08 22:56:03
Yes, if you play with 4 friends of your 24/7 you can become better than SK.
2012-01-08 22:57:34
no i cant :)
2012-01-08 22:58:08
How did SK become this good ?
By practicing for hours with their team.
You can do it too if you have enough motivation, a place to practice with your team and sponsors which Winfakt has you can become better than SK.

Post edited 2012-01-08 23:02:19
2012-01-08 23:01:11
and brain! ;-)
2012-01-09 02:24:36
You must play exact situations like hundred times, shoot from the same position, do the same 1vX retakes or attacks and you will get game sense like SK gaming players.
2012-01-09 22:27:08
no they werent, allu > both jigetus and nasu imo. but skill is not everything ofcourse
2012-01-08 18:20:42
jigetus > all dude, he is probably the best attacker on finland right now, just not have time enough to play anymore :/
dont say bullshit

Post edited 2012-01-08 20:54:36
2012-01-08 20:53:57
rofl
2012-01-08 21:06:26
attacker? he was a passive player :S
2012-01-08 22:24:45
i dont think so
2012-01-08 23:03:23
lurppis himself said it, when he described itch player on his team, jigetus was a passive player
2012-01-09 01:15:22
Where does he do that ? Link
2012-01-09 15:00:06
i think at one of his blogs at winfakt.net, check is facebook is probably there
2012-01-09 16:22:27
H^N > jigetus > naSu > allu
2012-01-08 20:54:32
H^N is very skilled but not so experienced
2012-01-08 21:49:05
actually tho i've played with naSu i'd say he hasnt been in the old form in years, jigetus lacked the spotlight he used to have in smaller teams and allu as an individual is great. I like H^N too so this sounds interesting.
2012-01-09 00:02:10
cant edit so i'll edit here.. played with naSu back in the days like 2001 or some shit like that and he wasnt that good at that time, not even prob better than me but in the near years he started to be great. i still learn new things and playstyles that can be used in various situations but i guess that has a certain limit too that comes with the experience. I think naSu was a great firstfragger and clutcher depending on which site he was holding on @ ct. great replacements if it's ok to say so..
2012-01-09 03:36:00
jigetus > H^N > nasu > allu
2012-01-09 03:42:47
i like more jigetus than altu :P,bad for them if they kicked jigetus
2012-01-09 10:45:46
H^N was truly a monster when he had to leave for army, i hope he will keep up with his awp skills and they should do way better with that team imo
2012-01-08 18:13:44
well aslak will prob still be awper.. i hope :P but H^N is good with rifles too

Post edited 2012-01-08 18:22:04
2012-01-08 18:21:38
H^N much better than aslak
2012-01-08 18:38:19
good joke..aslak is top3 awper alongside markeloff and delpan
2012-01-08 21:05:44
yes newbie I've seen H^N using awp, I know how good he is, and I know that aslak is better than him.
PS.Highlights don't prove anything
2012-01-08 23:04:44
pff H^N more experience than aslak

but 2 are good gl to winfakt :)
2012-01-09 05:52:48
yeah H^N played at MindTrek, Digifest and stuff he is very experienced
2012-01-09 06:00:21
yea he play xperia play 2011 with OK , and many tournaments
2012-01-09 06:56:24
well aslak played 2 GC, ESWC, SEC, and many other high-level tours
2012-01-09 14:02:53
yea compare in skills
2012-01-09 17:02:34
compare the skills aslak is still better
2012-01-09 19:03:41
aslak and basic already are amazing awpers, and then allu also used to awp in his other teams.
so it's hard to say who will be using it most now, but my dollars are on aslak, with h^n as 2nd sniper, as basics rifles are better :P

Post edited 2012-01-08 18:37:00
2012-01-08 18:35:18
yeh its true that aslak is doing good with AWP too. They will be a hard team to play against on de_train ;D
2012-01-08 19:32:27
for sure ^^
2012-01-08 23:13:04
totally agree
2012-01-09 06:56:35
He trained irl
2012-01-08 19:36:19
When asked about the transfers, Tomi stated that "With allu and H^N, we may be able to win some LAN games. Something that manne could only ever dream of."
2012-01-09 16:28:44
no jigetus?
2012-01-08 16:33:39
Little pro-tip : Read the news

You're welcome
2012-01-09 15:02:18
IT HELPED A LOT



jk i read it
2012-01-10 08:56:46
WTFREAKKKK
2012-01-08 16:33:41
sad 4 jigetus&nasu
but will c new players
2012-01-08 16:33:50
cmon :(
2012-01-08 16:33:50
gl :)
2012-01-08 16:34:05
H^N is a good idea.
2012-01-08 16:34:37
by: mudq
#31
is he a great awp'er or i forget smth?
2012-01-08 16:39:27
aha he is
2012-01-08 16:40:43
I wonder if he'll be the backup awper to aslak or not, as far as I remember aslak was main awper correct?
2012-01-08 17:01:33
exactly

I think aslak should be the backup awp since H^N 's rifles are like a roulette
2012-01-08 18:04:38
since their best map is de_mirage i guess two good awpers is kinda good
2012-01-08 22:57:36
lol, allu was aNimus main awper, H^N was a sniper too, as i remember. So now they have 3 awpers o_O

Post edited 2012-01-08 17:00:38
2012-01-08 16:59:11
yeah and basic was the awper in this team before aslak joined :D but basic is a great rifler
2012-01-08 17:10:02
i think basic best finnish awper
2012-01-08 18:39:59
that'd be aslak
2012-01-08 18:52:26
no man, for me this is basic/hn
2012-01-08 19:00:43
None of them compares to aslak's awesome awp so aslak is their 1st awper
2012-01-08 17:19:30
in de_train no one can beat four awps now AHAHA :d
2012-01-08 17:37:04
Moscow 5 have 4 awpers.
2012-01-08 18:06:26
ed1k xek fox, and?!
2012-01-08 18:06:53
romkje
2012-01-08 18:16:57
i never see romjke playing with awp in moskow5, but i know he were the main awp when he played in virtus.pro
2012-01-08 20:56:23
i did, a lot. more often then ed1k btw
2012-01-09 04:10:48
playing for MOWSKOW5? no way
2012-01-09 06:51:18
and both dosia and romjke
2012-01-08 18:18:05
h^n much better tna aslak
2012-01-08 19:02:27
no.
2012-01-09 03:48:09
ofc yes
2012-01-09 17:27:31
+basic!
2012-01-08 18:36:01
Yea. He's the best allround player in Finland imo. :)
2012-01-08 17:23:01
Tomi....
2012-01-08 16:34:39
nice team lurrpis and practically four youngsters(basic has some more xp than the others),top3 for me :D
2012-01-08 16:34:58
lurrpis is a bit like carn now. he;s leading new players in the big world of cs ^ ^'. hope they wont fuck him like delpan, gtr etc.
2012-01-08 16:55:20
They got nothing to fuck him with. Winfakt is the only really good team in Finland
2012-01-08 17:00:11
well finland doesnt have another top leader so if they fuck with him they are retarded :D
2012-01-08 17:25:17
Awesome news! its not too late for H^N, he will still be a great player
2012-01-08 16:35:12
H^N niceeee, but -allu + jigetus :(
2012-01-08 16:35:20
allu is very good :)
2012-01-08 17:08:12
allu > jigetus
2012-01-08 18:24:19
allu is amazing but i prefer jigetus :(
2012-01-08 19:07:52
lol..
2012-01-08 20:57:02
+1
2012-01-09 11:33:19
nice :D
2012-01-08 16:35:47
by: mudq
#16
Tomi, good luck

Post edited 2012-01-08 16:36:48
2012-01-08 16:35:53
So whos now main awp h^n or aslak?
2012-01-08 16:35:54
aslak ofc
2012-01-08 16:36:12
H^N is sick aimer, Aslak AWP ofc, hn second awper i guess
2012-01-08 16:36:52
yeah and allu can also handle well that big green
2012-01-08 16:56:11
basic? :P
2012-01-08 18:38:23
he's good too :p
2012-01-08 18:41:39
the only player here who never really used awp in his career is lurp :P train is a no brainer unless these guys are playing lions or na'vi ^^
2012-01-08 23:15:28
Actually lurppis used to AWP back in the days too :D I remember seeing him AWP sometimes when he was still playing for serious gaming.
2012-01-08 23:54:00
yeah but not all the time, like these other guys :P he's good with it, but I would not call him a sniper ^^
2012-01-09 07:58:53
True, but in a way everyone from this lineup is capable of using the awp :D
2012-01-09 08:12:22
yeah, but that is not uncommon for professional players :P
2012-01-10 06:37:49
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#511
only player who has been a full time awper is h^n, aslak was never a full time awper before this team. everyone has awped in some maps at one point or another though
2012-01-10 00:08:00
yeah but the only player I havent seen using it in recent years on a regular basis is you :P maybe I just missed a couple of matches where you did by coincidence :>
2012-01-10 06:36:34
epic :DD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrwjmIPWLnU

Post edited 2012-01-10 10:57:02
2012-01-10 10:56:42
lol yeah nice ^_^
2012-01-10 18:35:34
He was actually an awper in Wings long time ago and he is still mixing with the big green :)
2012-01-09 22:39:15
I knew about the wings awping but havent seen lurp awp in ages :P I should watch more winfakt matches x]
2012-01-10 06:37:03
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#524
i don't ever awp in winfakt matches unless i pick it up in some midround situation (hardly ever though). basic was never a full time awper either though (and has never awped in winfakt) and aslak wasn't a fulltime awper before winfakt, it was actually lukee who awped in munkka over allu & aslak
2012-01-10 15:04:22
don't remember BASiCs old team(s) but I saw him awp alot there :P and then I was right about you not awping in WF, aslak I only started watching when he joined WF (I don't see as many matches as I used to lately :< )

Thanks for the update though. still you guys will rock @ train when you pick up CT pistol I imagine
2012-01-10 18:33:08
allu great 4 awp too.
2012-01-08 17:08:48
and BASIC too :D
2012-01-08 17:44:37
H^N is back from army?
2012-01-08 16:36:17
4 sure
2012-01-08 16:36:33
No. He's gonna play cs and bootcamp from the army! ^^
2012-01-08 16:47:52
Joke appreciated :D
2012-01-08 16:50:12
omg sad
2012-01-08 16:36:45
I dislike this...
2012-01-08 16:37:05
Think they will be stronger now. Jigetus didn't find his form lately and naSu is a tired of the game I guess.
2012-01-08 16:37:10
by: TLY
#25
7-8 place at IEM Kiev now for them sad story
2012-01-08 16:37:30
nasu was pretty good :S GL
lurrpis what is with Freon. U ever thought of him joining WF?
2012-01-08 16:37:51
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#32
i hate paris more than anything else i can think of, and i'd rather go to paris than play with freon

edit: i guess that means i'd hate to play with freon more, so there's that

Post edited 2012-01-08 16:41:05
2012-01-08 16:39:48
:D
2012-01-08 16:41:26
why not ? :S
u really hate him ? :D
2012-01-08 16:44:41
more than Paris as far as I understood.
2012-01-08 16:45:40
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#60
i dislike players who would rather have more +/- in their glorious statistics page than win a match for their team
2012-01-08 16:45:51
ok :(
2012-01-08 16:50:08
Will HLTV cover the LanTrek?I dont konw about allu and H^N before,i really want to see what what their strength is.
2012-01-08 16:59:53
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#211
it's a small event so i doubt it, you can find coverage at www.sett.fi though and i will post HLTV ips in my facebook page
2012-01-08 18:16:39
Isn't H^N supposed to still be in the Army ?
2012-01-08 17:04:19
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#208
he's out
2012-01-08 18:15:48
what about driim? i mean allu and h^n are awesome, i'm just curious.
2012-01-08 17:23:27
thats why u cut jigetus??? :):):)
2012-01-08 17:28:57
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#209
we didn't, we talked with him and agreed it was the best way to go, he didn't have time or motivation for competitive cs at this level
2012-01-08 18:16:16
its a shame for him i hope new players reach the skill level of jigetus that even without practising a lot can make a difference on any match, but i know what you mean.. you cant progress as a team with the strats when a player its out of practises so gl with the new lineup.
2012-01-08 20:55:51
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#340
i don't think jigetus', aslak's or basic's skill levels have any real differences
2012-01-08 21:28:36
when it comes to skills jigetus performed very well along the time and have a good use of all weapons, also got a long experience on international events.
Maybe he not performed as expected vs top teams but he got the potential in skill level.
I think its not the case of basic that never was the strong point on their teams..
So its up to you to make a judge you know them more than me, but im talking about matches that ive seen because got some interesting to be streamed or so.
About the new line up members i know they have been playing for a long time but i have no clue about their performance on tournaments.
2012-01-09 18:48:24
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#495
if you asked anyone on our team they'd agree basic has the highest potential in our team and aslak has been our best player overall in 2011.
2012-01-09 19:01:48
im not attempting to deny basic skils but if you check stats its always below their team performance just playing as a regular-bad guy, ive seen him in several positions on the map as ct doesnt make anything good and if you can say that have a stronger t side its not enought to make a difference.
Im not against him because actually nasu did it worst.
Jigetus can step up as madfraguer or play agressive and make some kills its the most allround of the team.
And yup aslak its the best player of winkakt atm.
2012-01-09 19:25:16
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#499
the difference is basic goes in first so he dies a lot while for example jigetus is never the first guy in so he just cleans up 50hp guys, also bad days affect entry fragger way more.

jigetus is a good player, but he's not aggressive any means, quite the opposite.
2012-01-09 19:49:10
sure i mean hes not the kind of guy that tries to make entrys by himself but even on the passive form he got a good timing to flank because you dont expect him to make agressive picks and that makes plays more interesting, on ct he plays some areas by himself specially in close range zones making some picks and trading rly fast.
I mean if you dont got players of the size of gtr f0rest or neo to make those entrys you need to play a teamplay focused game and jigetus fix more in that role than basic or aslak they play too much by themselves.
2012-01-10 02:16:40
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#516
i disagree, there is a fine line between playing team based and too passively. i think basic overall is the most complete player on this team easily although aslak has played better. i think basic could do what jigetus does and could awp almost as well as aslak
2012-01-10 04:52:20
i understand ur references on basic by playing by him side but he didnt show us yet such great performances that you said hes able to do.
But im very anxious to see H^N playig, i think his fame as an agressive awper make wf to use him as main awp and ofc aslak uses assault which its good with.
I have no clue about allu ive seen him several times dropping usp to him and playing as an entry player since nasu cant do it anymore.
In all those cases i cant find basic role in an execution more like him supporting his teamates with flashes or that stuff...
2012-01-10 10:40:34
actually imo BASiC was the best player when paistit turned in to WF, he was carrying the team especially on de_nuke against top teams. After a while his performance started to level down a little.. the best moment of 2011 was when he moved from OK to team up with you. he still makes the kills but he used to take out 2-4 guys on his own in mid-round executes
2012-01-11 15:46:50
jigetus always is unstable ain't ?
2012-01-08 22:14:28
HAHAHAHA :D
2012-01-08 16:47:46
LMAO
2012-01-08 16:50:53
i have a question. Is danzer retired ?
2012-01-08 17:22:11
Gl guys! hehe straight to the point aren't you lurppis.
poor freon :/ ^^
2012-01-08 17:54:26
sooo, why do you hate paris? :P
2012-01-08 18:39:39
paris hilton he means
2012-01-08 19:41:38
"i'd rather go to paris than play with freon"
so freon is not so bad player to play with :D
2012-01-08 20:00:16
hey what is an irony?
2012-01-08 23:37:41
oh in that case I would have even worse feelings than lurp ;p
2012-01-08 23:16:49
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#292
way, way, way too many bad experiences for one city/country
2012-01-08 19:58:20
hmm too bad :(
I've only hit Paris once, it wasn't bad for me, maybe you just had bad luck :p
2012-01-08 23:17:57
So you mean you hit Paris Hilton once and it wasn't on bed? :)
2012-01-09 01:28:42
hahah:D
2012-01-09 06:48:54
haha yeah exactly! xD
2012-01-09 08:00:15
by: GoMeZ - HLTV.org
#27
its good and bad news

sad to see jigetus and nasu go, but unfortunately if they cannot commit, the team needs to move on with new players.

Good luck to the new Winfakt.
2012-01-08 16:38:11
took the words right out of my mouth :)
2012-01-08 16:46:37
sad for jigetus, he was sick!
2012-01-08 16:38:14
without jigetus? 2 weeks before IEM, nah i dont think so...
2012-01-08 16:39:08
gl hana
2012-01-08 16:39:13
Realy nice to se H^N back:)

but imo H^N = jigetus > nasu > allu.

2012-01-08 16:40:18
ye Hannue is fucking sick, but i dont know much about allu
2012-01-08 16:51:11
danzer
jigetus
allu
Freon
+1

<3333333333
2012-01-08 16:40:19
maybe tiHop or plastE
2012-01-08 16:51:59
aslak ?
2012-01-08 17:00:04
aslak is in WF, these are non-team players
2012-01-08 17:21:03
oooh, sorry D:
2012-01-08 17:23:37
what are you talking about? you just put allu in there and he's also in WF
2012-01-08 17:37:54
my bad, i mean nasu
2012-01-08 19:35:28
Freon, see #32 and #60
2012-01-08 17:02:07
so ? i dint said lurrpis will be in that team
2012-01-08 17:20:39
Oh, miss that part :O . Then who'll be the igl ?
2012-01-09 04:38:17
jigetus:( who is allu?:S
2012-01-08 16:40:57
Allu was a part in aNimus-gaming, second team in Finland. I watched him at Digifest if I remember corectly and he was quite a skilled awper. He basically destroyed Winfakt on de_train.
2012-01-08 16:43:12
ye at digifest fall if i remember right they had final between aNimus-gaming set up as bo5 where aNimus was leading the game 3-0 and it was suddenly changed to bo7.. u can guess the result which was 3-4 to WinFakt. lurppis might have his on opinion or i think that's more likely the truth if he says i'm wrong. that's just what i read at the time digifest was held @ tallin.
2012-01-09 03:25:09
Ahahah! How the fuck it was changed to a bo7? What was the reason?
2012-01-09 03:55:27
it was a bo5 all the way and end result was 3-2 to Winfakt, but aNimus took first 2 maps. but lurppis wanted bo3 from the start
2012-01-09 09:40:31
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#478
hest1 is actually correct, both teams said we wanted to play bo3 and said we would forfeit if they wouldn't let us play bo3 but the admins said if we want to get paid (haha, ironic) we have to play bo5.

everyone knew the entire time that it was best of five before the final started (my facebook post BEFORE the final: https://www.facebook.com/tinttibg/posts/1527847081..

and yes, of course we buckled down and won when it really mattered, that's what better teams do.

lawyered
2012-01-09 15:17:01
yeah sry, just remembered something like that happened.
2012-01-10 20:00:38
like that? what you remembered was waaay different
2012-01-11 17:26:43
actually not? the difference was that it was 2-0(bo3 end result) instead of 3-0 and ended up 2-3(bo5 end result) instead of 3-4. So if they would've played BO3 like both of the teams wanted, aNimus would've won the tournament with 2-0 overall score instead of losing BO5 2-3.
2012-02-03 02:09:22
lol
2012-01-08 17:58:11
hes really good.. you will see :)
2012-01-08 18:29:50
mmm no nasu ni jigetus mmm
2012-01-08 16:41:28
3 excellent awpers. Who will be the main ?
2012-01-08 16:41:47
aslak for sure but who will be secondary whats the question
2012-01-08 17:58:41
actually might be the other way around. aslak as the secondary since he really is a rifler more than an awper(which totally turned out well for WF to put him up to the job..)
2012-01-09 03:23:12
contE , plastE , danzer , Freon > H^N :(
gl
2012-01-08 16:41:47
??? never. H^N any of them
2012-01-08 16:44:40
actually i think danzer is highly underrated player.
2012-01-09 03:21:52
i think H^N is one of the best players in Finnland.
2012-01-08 16:49:20
Finland idiot. :D
2012-01-08 20:48:05
however :D
2012-01-08 21:32:10
What have you been smoking :O?
2012-01-08 17:18:25
u mad?
2012-01-08 17:36:24
not sure allu is quite good enough and will H^N be as good as he was before?

goodluck to them though, hope they do well!
2012-01-08 16:41:51
allu is good enough, he has been very good lately! yeah i don't know about H^N either, haven't seen him play in a while
2012-01-08 16:49:56
gl winfakt
2012-01-08 16:42:07
rly bad move imo
2012-01-08 16:42:18
ye rlly rlly bad :)
2012-01-08 16:42:35
omfg no ..
2012-01-08 16:42:22
zomfg yes
2012-01-09 22:46:13
haha :D tomi kicked his brother :D how nice :D
2012-01-08 16:42:32
omfg, awesome. Can't wait to see H^N in action, but sad for jigetus and nasu...
2012-01-08 16:42:56
GL WF !
2012-01-08 16:42:59
H^N ~~~~
2012-01-08 16:43:47
Allu is gooooooooood
2012-01-08 16:43:47
allu hiGh xD sick player~
2012-01-08 16:44:03
without nasu and jigetus they have no chance to win something.. :(
2012-01-08 16:44:59
and cows fly
2012-01-09 22:47:27
sad

Post edited 2012-01-08 16:50:20
2012-01-08 16:45:20
by: 6N08
#58
now waht happens wirth animus.gaming?
2012-01-08 16:45:29
Sad to see jigetus go, imo he was the best rifler in Finland.
Hope that you guys will get along well and let us see Winfakt no.1 team this year!
2012-01-08 16:47:01
The End
2012-01-08 16:47:12
by: chje
#64
aww, naSu was the most entertaining player to spectate.
2012-01-08 16:47:18
+1 surely one of the most entertaining for me
2012-01-08 17:57:06
totally agree!
2012-01-08 18:28:56
fisker vs naSu on the ladder :DDD : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utGAcQWZIKM
2012-01-08 18:32:57
haha one of the most memorable moments :D loved contE's statement on the chat on that vid :D
2012-01-09 03:20:50
what does he say? :)
vitun mustalainen toi admin
2012-01-09 18:08:08
that admin is a fuckin gypsy :D
2012-01-10 20:02:06
jigetus sick...
H^N goood
2012-01-08 16:47:40
jigetus :(
2012-01-08 16:47:59
h^n rlz!
2012-01-08 16:48:12
And now: Jigetus,nasu,plastE,contE,ruuit > WF
anymore finland dm...
2012-01-08 16:49:01
plaste plays poker now, not cs.
2012-01-09 22:49:50
gl :)
2012-01-08 16:49:38
wow, nice!
gogo allu
2012-01-08 16:49:51
O.O wow
2012-01-08 16:50:01
2 great players were replaced by 2 great players :)
2012-01-08 16:50:38
bad move! jigetus was an incredible aimer and i think it's impossible to anyone replace him but let's see, hope that allu and H^N do a good job!
2012-01-08 16:52:10
i think H^N and allu are on the same level tho they don't have the international experience yet. probably the greatest thing about jigetus was that he was often able to pull off 2-3 frags but for consistent player you should be able to take out at least ONE which was kinda his problem at least on WF as stated by few commentators as well. this situation occurs mainly as counter-terrorist.
2012-01-09 03:19:33
allu and H^N is sick mix! but miss jigetus :/
2012-01-08 16:53:24
Awww, hopefully they can pick up where they left
off. Maybe give them the edge they need to get
those 1st places.
2012-01-08 16:54:59
naSu :(
2012-01-08 16:55:38
4 awpers
2012-01-08 16:55:44
by: yin.
#91
Sad to see those players go but hopefully it makes for a stronger winfakt :D
2012-01-08 16:56:09
They got 3 good snipers, good for train.
Imo, they can do much more with this lineup.

2012-01-08 16:56:52
damn.

my fav player goes inactive. :(

means i don't wanna live anymore








just joking

:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2012-01-08 16:57:22
kinda expected i guess after seeing them play that uyR cup yesterday. will be interesting to see how this plays out. i think jigetus is replaceable but it's gonna be tough to replace a guy like naSu who has been playing so well since the birth of WinFakt.

H^N and allu are talented players though, hopefully they can grow into their new clothes soon enough.
2012-01-08 16:57:36
yup i hope this doesnt turn out like team Wings -> 69N28E/SeriousG/Roccat etc turned out..
2012-01-09 03:14:18
sad for jigetus
gl Alluuuuu
2012-01-08 16:57:38
lurppis plz reply to this comment.

Well main reason for changing team was lack of practice which i agree you had problems due to various commitments

Replacement are in allu and H^N. Now u have three pure awpers in ur lineup does it change anything? Moreover,
if am not wrong H^N was in army could he perform to the existing level needed in today's competitive scenario?


nasu was tremendously good this year. y did he stop?

i personally feel u will certainly miss a pure skilled rifler in form of jigetus and to some extent nasu.

Nevertheless Good Luck!
2012-01-08 16:58:52
"nasu was tremendously good this year. y did he stop?"

omg, did you read the news ?

"Both Niko Kovanen and Ryhti will go inactive and won't be joining another team."
2012-01-08 17:02:11
according to sett.fi naSu had to quit due to studies
2012-01-08 17:39:51
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#217
allu, BASiC and aslak are all riflers who have simply AWPed because no one else in the team was a "real" AWPer, aslak obviously turned out to be really good with the gun.

H^N had more hours on STEAM during the last few months of army than jigetus which is something we joked about pretty often

naSu stopped because he started a new school that wouldn't permit him to attend events anymore, he was also lacking motivation ever since he found out that would happen in October.
2012-01-08 18:19:44
so H^N will be the primary AWPer i guess?
luxury position for you, having great AWPers :D

2012-01-08 18:26:54
Freon live in France ? why you hate him ?btw nice decision with allu and H^N:)
2012-01-08 23:22:39
didn't you get the joke? :D read #32 again
2012-01-09 06:54:57
lmao
2012-01-09 09:45:41
Didn't H^N stopped his carreer ? I don't know a lot abouit allu, is he strong ? Too bad for Jigetus, he was a beast.
2012-01-08 16:59:06
he went to the army, but didn't quited the game :)

Post edited 2012-01-08 17:03:26
2012-01-08 17:02:54
you can play there ? :D
2012-01-08 17:05:14
Not :D
2012-01-08 17:35:44
#413 & #217

Post edited 2012-01-09 03:12:54
2012-01-09 03:10:43
actually you might be able to play with mobile internet + laptop @ free time when you're at army.. also when on weekend vacations which is like what would i guess.. if u r 362 days in army u would have like over half of the weekends at home and half at army.. but like 180 days like H^N did they have significantly smaller percentage of free days.

--EDIT--
check lurppis' post @ #217

Post edited 2012-01-09 03:13:20
2012-01-09 03:10:29
i think this will be the chance for allu to shine since his past teams were not that great outside of finland.
2012-01-08 17:04:28
But Army is 2 years right ? Oo
2012-01-08 17:05:03
6-12 months and you can come home mostly on the weekends. but i was talking about allu not H^N
2012-01-08 17:06:17
Yeah yeah, ok. Cool for them so, I like new players when they're strong ;D
2012-01-08 17:07:24
H^N is a beast! gl
2012-01-08 16:59:37
Sad to see nasu go since he was always one of my favorite players and a very strong player when he was putting in hours. But at the same time H^N especially is a player that I think can do amazing things against even the very top teams
2012-01-08 16:59:43
Jigetus was the best player in WF imo
2012-01-08 17:00:38
nasu :'(
2012-01-08 17:00:43
nice to see H^N finally joining them, sad for jigetus tho, but if he can't practice...hf allu & H^N !
2012-01-08 17:01:38
what the hell??? jigetuuuus nooooo!!
2012-01-08 17:06:14
NICE! top1 IEM6
2012-01-08 17:07:52
by: nfr
#125
nice H^N but why jigetus kicked?
2012-01-08 17:09:33
"the team's main problem in the past months has been lack of solid practice which was limited a lot by Ryhti's work schedule"
2012-01-08 17:10:58
This should be a good team and with some practice...gj&hf Lurppis+co!!
2012-01-08 17:11:31
WTF?
2012-01-08 17:12:33
cool change GL!
2012-01-08 17:13:49
it´s obvious that jigetus and Nasu are more experienced, and individually are better but if H^N and allu are keen, motivated and if you go through them to take more hours without doubt the change is better, hours, and motivation are the two most important things when you already have talent so good move lurppis.

soz 4 my english
2012-01-08 17:14:27
H^N is the best allround player in Finland imo.
2012-01-08 17:25:04
sad 4 nasu, but both allu & H^N are very talent players, gl wf :DD
2012-01-08 17:14:29
jigetus the best :[
2012-01-08 17:14:52
H^N <3333333333333333333333333333333333
2012-01-08 17:15:28
u need pla5te as zerogravity in Na`Vi :)))
2012-01-08 17:15:59
Jirka "jigetus" Ryhti
Timi "aslak" Verkkoperä
Kimmo "BASiC" Fagerholm
Hannu "H^N" Pohjalainen
Tomi "lurppis" Kovanen

would be sick lineup
2012-01-08 17:18:11
allu saatanan homo gl
2012-01-08 17:18:43
:(
2012-01-08 17:20:03
naSu is nice player..
2012-01-08 17:21:30
unlucky for my project and sad because I liked nasu :/
gl H^N, allu and winFakt.
2012-01-08 17:21:45
oh nooooes :(
2012-01-08 17:22:28
nice move H^N is sick aimer
2012-01-08 17:26:09
Gonna miss naSu (and jigetus). They were both really good players :/
2012-01-08 17:26:15
Would be amazing to see ruuit, contE and plastE with lurppis again.
Best of luck boys.
2012-01-08 17:26:45
If I'm not mistaking nobody wants to play with contE
2012-01-08 20:29:45
nasu:(
2012-01-08 17:27:38
Isn't H^N a totally sick awper? Who will be their awper now?
2012-01-08 17:27:49
H^N and aslak , no idea whos gonna be the primary but i would put my moneys on H^N ^^
2012-01-08 20:17:22
hannue ll be
2012-01-08 22:17:11
H^N is a great player hope he will do well
2012-01-08 17:29:54
gl H^N and allu !
2012-01-08 17:29:58
OMG H^N !!!!!!!!! Great for him, but sad for jigetus. naSu...whatever
2012-01-08 17:31:41
Good for allu. He needs all international experience he can get, but the question is how he can afford that while being a student? :P
2012-01-08 17:32:17
win tournaments = cash :DD
2012-01-08 18:41:34
H^N awp for sure.
2012-01-08 17:34:31
jjjoooo, gl :D
2012-01-08 17:35:14
that's so sad, jigetus WAS best aimer in WF and nasu had big impact with experince, but still h^n and allu are great players
2012-01-08 17:40:41
H^N IS BACK :D. i don't think H^N use the awp in this team... GL.

Post edited 2012-01-08 17:49:12
2012-01-08 17:45:26
wOw H^N back!) but sad for nsu and jigetus... imo they bouth > allu =\ anyway gl WF!
2012-01-08 17:46:57
Sick
2012-01-08 17:53:51
No jigetus no party.
2012-01-08 17:54:04
how long time army service is going in Finland?

Post edited 2012-01-08 17:54:58
2012-01-08 17:54:47
6 , 9 or 12 months
2012-01-08 20:18:28
about 40% goes with 362days(leader of about 8-30) if i remember correct like i did, H^N went with 180days(basic guys) which is about 35% and 270days(medics etc.) 25%.. not sure though if those were the precise numbers, it might have been 50% 362, 35% 180, 15% 270..
2012-01-09 03:05:51
jigetus :(
2012-01-08 17:55:28
by: zbs
#181
h^n very good player
2012-01-08 17:56:10
glhf!
2012-01-08 17:56:49
old fart scurk :P
2012-01-09 03:03:03
freshshiet ^^

~ imo

allu = baws
2012-01-10 23:13:00
nice move.
2012-01-08 17:56:54
Oh, lol.
Nice, I think.
But, I love naSu ):
2012-01-08 17:57:19
Wow, I didn't expect this at all, what a shock.

I think the line-up with jigetus and nasu is better than the one with allu and H^N.

It's gonna be interesting to see who's gonna pick up the big green because both aslak and H^N are masters with it. I think we saw a great player in H^N at Xperia PLAY and he was very impressive. I don't know much about allu just like that he played for the 2nd best team in Finland etc. so it will be interesting to see him in action and how good he can be.

Jigetus was as we all know one of the better players in WinFakt and I think it's gonna be hard for any player to fill in that position so it's gonna be interesting to see how H^N is gonna fill in that position because if anyone that isn't playing for WinFakt from Finland can do it, then H^N is the player. If I remember correctly he went to the Finnish army so that would mean he hasn't played the game for a while. Nasu was also a good player but I think he hasn't been as good as he once was, he has been pretty inconsistent this year.

Now that jigetus and nasu left WinFakt because of their busy schedule I think it would be more natural that plastE would fill in for one of the players so that kinda surprised me too that he didn't join the team since he was already in the team if I remember correctly but just as a stand-in player. So because jigetus and nasu can't play the best solution would in my opinion be to bring plastE and H^N instead of jig and nasu.

Some questions for lurppis if he sees this:

Who's gonna AWP in WinFakt now, aslak or H^N?

Why didn't you guys bring in plastE?

I know that you guys have streamed from your bootcamp place when you are preparing for tournaments so I wonder if you're gonna do that this time too?

Post edited 2012-01-08 18:01:07
2012-01-08 17:57:33
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#221
AWP: you'll see
plastE went inactive because he had no time, that is still the case
2012-01-08 18:23:00
I know that you guys have streamed from your bootcamp place when you are preparing for tournaments so I wonder if you're gonna do that this time too?
2012-01-08 18:31:40
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#290
if the SETT people come over to set the stream up then possibly yea, but we can't do it on our own
2012-01-08 19:57:39
nice, goodluck allu.
2012-01-08 17:57:36
jigetus <3 :(
2012-01-08 17:58:19
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! WORST MOVE EVER! :(((((((((((
2012-01-08 17:59:32
jigetus was their best :(
but allu was the best player in 2nd team of Finland.
H^N was pretty good too

Post edited 2012-01-08 18:02:19
2012-01-08 17:59:48
jigetus is a moviestar
he didn't do as good as expected for winfact
2012-01-08 18:03:11
"he was unable to take time off of work and school"
is that what you mean? coz he was absolutely the best in Winfact
2012-01-08 18:05:34
uhm no, he was after aslak and basic. so he was barely better then the old farts lurppis and nasu...
2012-01-08 23:49:55
jigetus?pfff big lost , i think better jig then nasu , h^n very good player
2012-01-08 18:00:44
at least they are praccing alot but they lost good players :s
2012-01-08 18:05:06
H^N in army.... no? i remember something about army
2012-01-08 18:05:25
seems like he's back
2012-01-08 18:12:55
not anymore ;)
2012-01-08 19:00:18
A Finnish team changing their lineup just as they start to show signs of solid play that could earn them wins in international tournaments?

Haven't seen this one happen before. Nope, not even once.

I sometimes wonder if we would have -- at some point -- seen a great Finnish team, if against all odds one of the promising lineups we've seen over the years managed to stick together for more than a few months. Sort of like, I don't know... all the top teams in the history of this game?
2012-01-08 18:11:05
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#224
i suppose we should rather go to events with four players (since nasu can't go) who have 20h/2 weeks on steam and only practice from 9-11pm due to jigetus' work schedule?

sometimes there's things beyond your control, this is one of those times
2012-01-08 18:24:49
It was more of a general note than critique against this particular decision (if it can be referred to as such).

Whether it's because of school, army, work or whatever, it will always happen. It's some sort of a curse in Finnish CS-scene.
2012-01-10 19:28:31
It's not like they changed their line-up for fun...
2012-01-08 18:28:56
Nice ! GL with this lineup.
2012-01-08 18:11:47
nasu was their best... bad move

Post edited 2012-01-08 18:12:35
2012-01-08 18:12:24
hope they can fit well jigetus departure...he was aimstar, gl guys
2012-01-08 18:13:41
amazing team H^N KING !! GOGOGO!
2012-01-08 18:14:34
nice HAN Da kiNg I think H^N will be 1st awp in winfakt
2012-01-08 18:16:34
I want Finland to win some major even before CS is dead.
2012-01-08 18:17:35
OMG! :S skill level should be about the same but will miss naSu :[[ allu is a monster so thats a good move atleast :P

Post edited 2012-01-08 18:18:49
2012-01-08 18:18:17
LanTrek ? Is that a new version of Mindtrek ?
2012-01-08 18:18:47
jiGetus never played the way he did in 09/10, (he did a decent work tho) winfakt is gonna miss nasu however, his level was really growing and I don't see allu or H^N playing his role perfectly.

gl lurppis, gonna be a nice team without a doubt!
2012-01-08 18:21:34
What makes you think it'll be H^N or allu to play his role? =)
2012-01-08 20:03:55
because basic is their best rifler and aslak is their awp :)
2012-01-08 21:19:40
since they're getting replaced and the remaining players play their roles very well...
2012-01-09 14:46:05
And that can be changed in a blink of an eye ;)
2012-01-10 01:57:36
Why would you change good things? Wow...
2012-01-10 04:15:32
gl <3
2012-01-08 18:23:42
allu is good but i don't think he can make up for jigetus :/
2012-01-08 18:29:33
I believe H^N is the one that's going to cover up for jigetus and I think we can all agree that he is the best Finnish player that isn't playing for WinFakt, or, that wasn't playing for WinFakt. I believe allu is the one that's gonna cover up for nasu and I don't know if he's as good as nasu but nasu wasn't that great overall in his time in WinFakt.
2012-01-08 21:16:27
what about tihOp? it's not gonna be the same without jigetus
2012-01-08 18:31:28
afaik he hasnt played for years ( not on a high level atleast)

Post edited 2012-01-08 18:47:30
2012-01-08 18:47:10
its gonna be the best finnish team of all time , you'll see ;) H^N & allu > jigetus & nasu on their recent form
2012-01-08 20:37:48
lol now they can use 4 awps on train :DD would be sick :P
2012-01-08 18:34:44
SERIOUSLY ? CMON....allu is so overrated ... bad move !
2012-01-08 18:39:00
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#379
+1
2012-01-08 23:22:54
ouuu youu... I just think that jigetus;naSu>allu ,but that's just my opinion...you're the team captain :)
2012-01-09 01:20:35
ROFL, lurppis-dA-trollking.
2012-01-09 07:34:50
What do you think of lurppis?
2012-01-09 09:31:44
+1
2012-01-08 23:29:24
allu > Delpan
2012-01-08 18:39:33
:D:D:DD:D::D:DD:D:
2012-01-08 18:53:29
Trollpan
2012-01-09 14:41:27
lurppis is like element he can make any team perform above standards.
2012-01-08 18:39:41
H^N fuck yeah! but shame for nasu and jige though...
2012-01-08 18:40:17
sad for Jigge, he is really monster =(
-allu+jigge plz =(
2012-01-08 18:41:24
nice move but jigetus was great :(
gl hannu
2012-01-08 18:42:08
Without jigetus NO WHAY !!!!! :////
2012-01-08 18:42:43
jigetus, plaste, conte, nasu, ruuit for another team xD
2012-01-08 18:46:04
Good Luck !

Btw.. We still miss ContE too! :(
2012-01-08 18:47:04
by: jlp
#253
omg -jigetus =(((((((((((

but H^N and aslak in the same team?
who will be the main awper?

in my opnion H^N awp> aslak awp
so if H^N be the main awper aslak will be kinda useless because he is not soooooo good with rifles
(he is good ofc, but the worst "rifler" in WinFakt in my opnion)
2012-01-08 18:47:32
jigetus is the most unstable guy in the team. i think that's why they change jigetus to nasu/hannue.
2012-01-08 19:10:03
most unstable was nasu
2012-01-08 19:27:44
i don't talk about pure gaming and stat, but irl and in game.

i hear that from lurppis in an interview. (i don't remember which)
2012-01-08 19:30:59
allu is a skill monster!

nice!
2012-01-08 18:48:03
jigetus was a monster sad for him ;[
2012-01-08 18:50:56
it is step back for winfakt. Bt gl
2012-01-08 18:51:11
H^N!! yesss!!!!! <3
2012-01-08 18:55:04
by: pfx
#261
Good to see H^N back 8) gl Winfakt!
2012-01-08 18:58:02
gl
2012-01-08 19:01:21
sucks =[
2012-01-08 19:01:31
If jigetus stayed it would be an amazing team
2012-01-08 19:04:09
hannue is back ! hf winfakt !
2012-01-08 19:08:44
H^N is good, made me delete cs 2 times now..
2012-01-08 19:08:53
jigetus > allu and H^N fact!
2012-01-08 19:10:51
gl hf
2012-01-08 19:12:03
hannu <3 HELL YEAH!
2012-01-08 19:14:40
H^N > NaSu but allu < jigetus :(((
2012-01-08 19:16:18
good luck!
2012-01-08 19:18:31
3awp (aslak, H^N, BaSic) in team 8( It's not good.
2012-01-08 19:28:12
4th place in group in Kiev
2012-01-08 19:37:29
wouldn't be that surprised. they have fnatic, m5 and mouz in their group. all great teams and one has to be the last :p
2012-01-08 19:58:12
2nd ;)
2012-01-09 11:43:29
maybe, after m5
2012-01-09 13:37:16
sure chuvak
2012-01-09 13:50:02
maybe, before m5
2012-01-13 13:59:47
Glad to see allu developing finally and obviously to see the return of H^N :) good luck.

2012-01-08 19:37:53
No :( Jigetus :(
2012-01-08 19:47:10
change when it needs!
2012-01-08 19:51:38
omg 2011 winfakt was good team, and now to begin playing with new line up sad :C
2012-01-08 19:59:25
H^N and aslak are awpers???
H^N : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sbZLRhiIVM
aslak : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prx8PAcDmYc&fea..

Post edited 2012-01-08 20:04:25
2012-01-08 20:01:48
well basically, BASiC was an awper too
2012-01-08 20:04:55
Aslak is better than the BASiC awp
2012-01-08 20:14:05
allu awp : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ3oxOQtQmg
BACIC awp : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kXS7y4NSVE

they have 4 good awpers now :P
2012-01-08 21:18:39
lurppis awp: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrwjmIPWLnU

then we have 5 awpers!
2012-01-08 23:17:35
epic clip is epic :D
2012-01-08 23:56:44
HAHAHAHAHA !if something is missing in the team will not be awp!
2012-01-09 00:04:09
kinda sad to see such a beast as JiGetus leave. Even though it might have taken longer for them to improve, the line up looked full of potential to me. gl
2012-01-08 20:05:59
YEAH !
SICK SICK SICK SICK
2012-01-08 20:12:11
Allu and Aslak back together, holy ****
2012-01-08 20:10:04
what ? -jigetus ? :( bad news
but gl for the new lineup

Post edited 2012-01-08 20:12:31
2012-01-08 20:12:09
WHAT? - jigetus?
r u serious lurrpis?
2012-01-08 20:14:19
Did you even read the news?
2012-01-08 20:18:13
NaVi, Finish version
2012-01-08 20:34:50
H^N is an amazing player!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJwXSe6YPbM
2012-01-08 20:36:47
Holy shit... so calm, so many heads it's. I'm looking forward to see him in action!
2012-01-08 21:08:21
yea he is a good player
2012-01-08 21:59:41
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sbZLRhiIVM

another clip 1 v 5 vs m5 xperia play 2011
2012-01-08 22:00:48
Good luck guyz !
2012-01-08 20:44:06
-jigetus
omg :c
2012-01-08 20:55:30
jigetus was best player in winfakt..
sad;/ stupid move

Post edited 2012-01-08 20:57:50
2012-01-08 20:57:33
wrong, jigetus wasn't the best player in winfakt
at least aslak, lurppis and basic were more consistent
2012-01-09 14:51:34
nope;/
2012-01-09 15:26:13
pretty clear its a downgrade
2012-01-08 21:07:15
mmm
2012-01-08 21:11:31
fffuuuck still thinking of going @ lantrek
2012-01-08 21:14:00
it's not a stupid move,if they cant practice as they wont , why not ?
2012-01-08 21:16:52
^_^
2012-01-08 21:18:40
allu is great frager like aslak
2012-01-08 21:22:16
best of luck to tomi and the new guys!
2012-01-08 21:28:36
people should learn to read the article before commenting, bad move etc...

good luck Tomi with the new team
2012-01-08 21:28:36
Cant wait to see h^n in action. Still, i dont know if this change is a great new
2012-01-08 21:52:15
Great to see H^N back =)
i did love to see him playing before he went to the Army.. I hope that he is that good as he once where =)
2012-01-08 22:00:22
I believe in this lineup.
2012-01-08 22:14:38
their's kick of team?
2012-01-08 22:21:24
don't know about allu, but H^N was pretty damn sick, the lineup looks great
2012-01-08 22:25:50
GL , hope you win some big tor. this year
2012-01-08 22:28:14
Thanks god H^N is back, SICK player.

-jigetus bad move though

Post edited 2012-01-08 22:37:15
2012-01-08 22:36:19
gl ;)
2012-01-08 22:40:47
allu o_O gl bro!
2012-01-08 22:49:00
H^N was such a beast. i hope he finds his form again
2012-01-08 22:54:56
this is officially a bad decision.. now they wont stand a chance against top5 teams -_- they would've

but gl overall
2012-01-08 23:08:02
xd

Post edited 2012-01-08 23:45:40
2012-01-08 23:45:10
nasu:-///
2012-01-08 23:46:18
lol 20000 times the same thing "who is the main awpr? "aslak" "2nd awper h^n" "allu used to play awp too" "so did basic" :DD arrgghh :D
2012-01-09 00:07:40
Haven't really seen allu play that much, but seeing as Finnish teams love brothers I was kind of hoping for zabaz to continue that trend. Still looking forward to seeing the team in action, although I have a feeling people might expect too much from H^N.
2012-01-09 00:18:02
+1, hes good, but not THAT good :P
2012-01-09 00:27:47
which one
2012-01-09 02:57:13
H^N, he was so good before he left that its probably hard to keep the same level now . but maybe he will, lets hope :P
2012-01-09 09:53:02
naais gl allu
2012-01-09 00:29:50
YEP!!!
2012-01-13 05:55:53
fuck.p..i'll miss naSu

gl to the new guys
2012-01-09 00:32:21
Jigetus :( but who will be sniper in WinFakt ? :D
2012-01-09 00:45:23
aslak, just like before lol, and BASiC is there secondary awper, just like before..

jiGetus obviously didn't awp

Post edited 2012-01-09 00:52:37
2012-01-09 00:52:14
I have a strong feeling that H^N will be their secondary awper.
2012-01-09 01:07:23
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#405
basic was obviously never the secondary awper
2012-01-09 01:49:24
May I ask why? Since BASiC have shown his skill with the awp many times before, it was strange 2 not see him with awp within WinFakt :p
2012-01-09 03:11:43
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#421
we never used two awps, if we did he could have awped, but we didn't. now there are too awpers better than him so he would never awp in any case.
2012-01-09 03:23:15
Okay tnks for the clarification, hope u guys can get a roll going.. ;p ur my fav igl btw
2012-01-09 07:28:29
And you're a fanboy.
2012-01-09 15:21:52
Wow, where the fuck did u come from?
2012-01-09 18:17:37
Do you know is HLTV.org covering the LanTrek 2012 tournament? Or at least providing HLTV for those matches? I'd like to see your new roster in action
2012-01-13 17:54:56
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#548
hltv.org isn't covering the event as it's just a small local event with only a few decent teams playing. i will post hltv ips of our matches on my facebook page though
2012-01-13 19:30:01
Ok thanks. Also, when is the event starting? Tomorrow I guess but when will the first matches be played?

Nvm, I just read your fb-page =)

Post edited 2012-01-13 19:51:53
2012-01-13 19:49:30
i know jigetus was not awp in team :O Im ask about aslak and H^N who will be ? :D

[poor english]
2012-01-10 23:43:31
h^n is the best.
2012-01-09 01:18:49
H^N > aslak awp/assault
2012-01-09 01:32:26
+++++112358416 he is amazing!!

2012-01-09 06:39:04
glgl
2012-01-09 02:18:10
naSu decided to go pro in DotA2, heard it from me first
2012-01-09 06:40:40
good choice, DotA2 rocks <3 but without him WinFakt are not the same.
2012-01-09 07:05:10
Without jigetus and naSu, i don't think that winfakt can perform as well as they did in the past. Even thow i really loved when H^N played for OK and i was sad when he had to go to army. They could have picked someone better then allu.
2012-01-09 07:06:44
i dont think there is any better players in finland than these 2, not that i can think of
2012-01-09 09:57:20
sad about jigetus. ;( sick aim
H^N for awp ye
2012-01-09 08:44:28
GL WinFakt, hope they'll kick some asses
2012-01-09 09:26:19
prophe was pretty good :S GL
lurrpis what is with Mellu. U ever thought of him joining WF?
2012-01-09 10:48:32
-allu
+jigetus
=amazing
2012-01-09 12:14:05
Always happens... When a team is going well, it suffer changes /:
Anyway, good luck for the team and the new players (:
2012-01-09 12:22:10
It would be interesting ! ;]
I can't wait to watch them on fire ! :)
2012-01-09 12:27:57
good luck, looking forward to see you in actions.
2012-01-09 12:32:45
H^N is mental
2012-01-09 12:44:57
with all my respect 4 u lurppis , but jugetus > ALL
2012-01-09 13:23:55
Four most skilled individuals in Finland at the moment + one of the best IGLs in the world = win!
2012-01-09 13:24:51
Good luck guys. When will be first major tournament this year with WF attending?
2012-01-09 14:25:55
This weekend lantrek in Finland i think and next week IEM6 GC KIEV
2012-01-13 08:36:49
gl, gonna miss nasu though
2012-01-09 14:40:09
jigetus ????????????????????????????????
SHIT
he is damn good why did they replaced him
2012-01-09 15:04:32
According to team captain Tomi "lurppis" Kovanen the team's main problem in the past months has been lack of solid practice which was limited a lot by Ryhti's work schedule.



L2READ!!!!
2012-01-09 15:20:34
rofl. cs is for sure dead :>
2012-01-09 15:06:52
jigetus he could be, but H^N a good decision
2012-01-09 15:17:37
hannuuuuuuuuuuuu <3
2012-01-09 15:24:15
alot of good players quit the game
but i dont it will die so easy
still alot of good played standing
and alot more will to be pro's
some retires and other turning into pro's
thats the way things works

Post edited 2012-01-09 15:28:10
2012-01-09 15:27:25
allu good player
2012-01-09 15:44:34
WinFakt without jigetus -.- SHIT!
2012-01-09 16:38:15
not shit, they have h^n, he is great
2012-01-09 17:17:00
hmm very nice
2012-01-09 19:17:52
It will be interesting to see how does this work. Nasu has normally played very aggressive and pushing forward as a counter-terrorist. For example he was one of those key players in maps like de_train because pushing heavily to yard to counter early rush.
2012-01-09 19:50:36
And he was definately one the best aggressive players, I must admit.
2012-01-09 19:51:32
Yeah, there is like no new players anymore these days. CS is like so dead bru.
2012-01-09 21:01:19
may i know why u guys think H^N is better awper than aslak?

i mean aslak has already proved himself against teams like navi

but who is this H^N guy to come out of nowhere??
2012-01-09 21:23:17
gl
2012-01-09 22:48:41
maybe people see it as an immediate downgrade, but honestly if they can practice way more often than jigetus and nasu then i see it as an upgrade. H^N is a monster, although i'm not so familiar with allu. Sure, jigetus is a complete beast and one of finland's best, but if he can't put in the time then his play will surely show it. nasu always a Finnish legend, but if he lacks motivation then he might as well be replaced too.
2012-01-10 02:34:02
gl winfakt gl lurppis :)
2012-01-10 12:38:08
2 awp players? :D
2012-01-10 16:15:05
i think hana pick up awp role in this team
2012-01-11 07:11:02
what was the lineup of OK before basic went to paistit/WF ? H^N BASiC (jigetus?) x x.. can't remember tho i enjoyed watchin em. they made NICE damage @ xperia play.
2012-01-11 15:58:02
H^N
basic
jigetus
danzer
freon
..... i think
2012-01-11 17:13:38
http://www.sett.fi/TV

Winfakt's bootcamp stream!
2012-01-11 22:14:21
Prolly for the better for WF.

Jige really never met his potential and was way too inconsistent for prolevel. He might fit better in a younger team.

Nasu on the other hand is a player who is very hard to replace. He has incredible aim but it does show all that much since he's the guy to do a lot of the dirty work.

I woulda preferred danzer instead of allu but I guess danzer is not that active anymore
2012-01-13 11:14:01
I think its bad, why Nasu leave?
2012-01-13 12:53:37
"The same time issues caused by Niko Kovanen and Ryhti were also the cause of WinFakt skipping over DreamHack Winter as they were unable to take time off of work and school. Both Niko Kovanen and Ryhti will go inactive and won't be joining another team."

And i dont think its so bad. because allu and H^N great players just like nasu and jigetus. And now they got more time to practise. I just hope H^N gets his skills fastly back to same level as it was before he joined army :)

Post edited 2012-01-13 14:04:11
2012-01-13 14:02:05
h^n is good addition to the team but not so sure about allu he has some up and downs in gameplaying, sometimes he might be best in winfakt sometimes the worst. not sure about him because his balance is so bad.
2012-01-15 13:42:42
GG
2012-01-20 17:43:07

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