Top 20 players of 2011: trace (4)
By: Tgwri1s
Time: 2012-01-17 01:41
Game: Counter-Strike 1.6

Last year's number three Martin "trace" Heldt continued in the same manner during 2011 and carried his team mTw more than any other player throughout the year. He was the team's best at almost every tournament he attended, putting in MVP-worthy performances at four of them and shining in many big matches, which this time earned him a very respectable 4th place on our list.

Basic information

Player: Martin "trace" Heldt
Team: mTw, Anexis (stand-in)
Age: 22

Team achievements in 2011:

1st - /
2nd - IEM5 European Championship Finals, DreamHack Summer
3rd - IEM5 World Championship, Xperia PLAY (shared with RG-Esports)

Stats from major LAN tournaments in 2011:

Kills per round: 0.80
Deaths per round: 0.60
Rating: 1.21 (?)
Maps played: 68
MoM: 20 times top rated in a match
Best tournament: DreamHack Summer
Best map: de_inferno
Most notable stats: 5th best rating (1.21), 4th best fragger (0.80 KPR), 4th most consistent (72% of maps above 1.00 rating), carried his team the most (75% of maps above team's average), 8th most AWP kills (290), 4th best in pistol-rounds, best player on de_inferno (1.27 rating)

Martin "trace" Heldt wasn't quite known internationally before September 2009, which is when he joined mTw to replace retired Jonas "whimp" Svendsen. Already in the following few months after that he proved he had the potential to be one of the world's very best, and he confirmed that thoroughly throughout 2010. Even though mTw won only one major title (DreamHack Summer) during that time, they were always a big contender and a regular top3 finisher. His overall performance earned him the 3rd spot on our Top 20 of 2010 list, while additionally he established himself as the world's best entry fragger.

Major titles kept slipping away

Tournament (team result) Rating
 Avg% +/-
IEM5 European Championship Finals (2nd place) 1.23 (1st)
 +20%
MVP nomination
Selected for All-Star lineup
2nd best rating (1.23)
Most kills (308)
Most AWP kills (102)
Best K-D difference (+93)
2nd hardest to kill (0.56 DPR)
    

In the first tournament of 2011, IEM5 European Championship Finals, mTw would have their second test with the new in-game leader Timm "ArcadioN" Henriksen who joined in October, previously finishing second at DreamHack Winter. They didn't really excel in the group stage, having 2 wins, a draw and 2 losses, but they made it through to the quarter-final. After defeating Lions without much trouble, they faced a difficult match against Frag eXecutors, which went down to the wire and the Danes came out happier. Still, on the next day, they lost the final despite taking the first map against fnatic.

Heldt was the main reason mTw made it that far, as he was one of the stars of the event. He finished with the 2nd best rating of all players (1.23), had by far the most kills (308) and was the one who carried his team the most with rating 20% above team's average. Additionally, he excelled in his new role of the team's primary AWPer, having the most kills with the big green (102) and the 2nd best average (0.27 awpKPR).

He was top rated in 5 maps, particularly impressing in the quarter-final against Lions, where he had a 31:7 score in the first map and a 2.24 rating, which turned out to be one of the highest anyone achieved in a playoff match between top teams all year long. After all that he ended up with an MVP nomination, and although he didn't win, he was selected for the All-Star lineup.


trace's 4-kill round vs Lions

Tournament (team result) Rating
 Avg% +/-
IEM5 World Championship (3rd place) 1.18 (1st)
 +10%
MVP nomination
Selected for All-Star lineup
5th best rating (1.18)
2nd best AWPer (0.27 awpKPR)
5th best fragger (0.78 KPR)
4th best K-D difference (+54)
Hardest to kill (0.59 DPR)
4th best in pistol-rounds		    

mTw's next chance to prove themselves was at IEM5 World Championship, where things started brightly as they topped their group with convincing victories 16-3 over Fx and 16-7 over Moscow Five, among others. However, that set them up with a semi-final encounter against Natus Vincere, their arch-enemy and the team they were never able to beat. History repeated itself and the Danes were left with a 3rd place battle against SK Gaming, which they managed to win eventually.

Heldt was again the main threat from his team, recording a 1.18 rating and getting another MVP nomination. He wasn't as impressive as in the previous tournament, but his AWP was on the same level (0.27 awpKPR) and he impressed during team's winning run in the group stage. Especially amazing was his first match of the tournament, where he recorded his year-highest 2.65 rating in a 16-2 win over TCM (27:5 score). Although he wasn't selected as the MVP this time either, he made it into another All-Star lineup.


trace's glock pistol-round vs TCM-Gaming

HLTV.org's Xperia PLAY prelude followed for mTw, where they finished in 2nd place behind SK Gaming. Heldt didn't fail to leave his mark on this occasion either, ending up 3rd best rated of the event with a 1.27 rating.

Tournament (team result) Rating
 Avg% +/-
Xperia PLAY 2011 (3rd/4th place)
 1.25 (1st)
 +14%
MVP nomination
Selected for All-Star lineup
5th best fragger (0.81 KPR)
6th best K-D difference (+75)
5th most consistent
Best clutcher (9x won 1vsX)		    

At Xperia PLAY they had a similar campaign to the one in Germany, only this time they were stopped by Frag eXecutors in a similar match but reverse outcome to their match from Kiev. They had to settle for another 3rd place, although the encounter with RG-Esports was never played and the team's ended up sharing the prize and the position.

Heldt continued with his impressive form, starring for the team once again with a 1.25 rating. He played consistently well with 10 of 13 rated above 1.00, while he especially stood out during the second group stage 16-7 win over Moscow Five (29:11 score, 1.91 rating). Later, he excelled in the quarter-final against fnatic when he recorded a rating 34% above team's average in the three maps (61:38 score, 1.41 rating). Additionally, he was one of the best clutchers of the tournament with 9 rounds won when left alone. Once again the MVP title slipped from his hands, but he was selected for the 3rd time in an All-Star lineup.


pistol-round in Xperia PLAY quarter-final against fnatic

Tournament (team result) Rating
 Avg% +/-
DreamHack Summer 2011 (2nd place)
 1.27 (1st)
 +23%
MVP nomination
Selected for All-Star lineup
2nd best rating (1.27)
Best rating in playoffs (1.33)
Most kills (267)
2nd best fragger (0.84 KPR)
2nd best K-D difference (+71)
2nd most dominant (25x 3+ kills)
Most consistent
2nd best entry killer
    

At DreamHack Summer, mTw had a great performance, which unfortunately once again ended with a loss in the final, now to the refreshed and newly motivated SK Gaming lineup. Heldt had another impressive performance, his best yet, and the organizers awarded him with the title of Most Valuable Player.

He recorded the second best rating of the event (1.27), while being the most consistent and the second most dominant player. He also accumulated the most kills (267) and was the 2nd best entry killer. His best display came in the quarter-final against Moscow Five, as he was top rated in all 3 maps against the Russians and had a rating 40% above team's average (86:50 score, 1.51 rating). He was also the team's best in the semi-final against ESC Gaming (1.31 rating) and in the final against SK Gaming (1.10 rating), which made him the best rated player of the playoffs (1.33). In the end, although he was named the official MVP, in the vote on our website he suffered a close loss in the MVP race to SK's reinforcement Marcus "Delpan" Larsson, but made it into the All-Star lineup again.


4 M4A1 headshots against ESC Gaming

Tournament (team result) Rating
 Avg% +/-
e-Stars Seoul 2011 (4th place)
 1.17 (1st)
 +10%
All-Star nomination
5th most dominant
Hardest to kill (0.56 DPR)
4th best in pistol-rounds
    

mTw skipped GameGune, so their next event was e-Stars Seoul in August. This was the first occasion that they didn't end up with a podium finish, as they initially lost to SK Gaming in the Upper semi-final 8-16 on de_forge, and later to their nemesis Natus Vincere 18-22 in a very interesting Lower final.

Heldt wasn't as impressive as on the previous occasion, but he was shared best in his team with a 1.17 rating. More importantly, he was their best player in two of the team's three wins, over project_kr and mousesports.

Shortly after the return from Korea, mTw's Alexander "ave" Holdt announced his retirement and the team added Michael "Friis" Jørgensen. However, that change didn't last long as Jørgensen signed for fnatic a few weeks later, while Holdt returned to help the team qualify for IEM6 GC New York. They succeeded in that, but on the other hand they had to cancel their trip to SEC due to not having enough funds. 

Tournament (team result) Rating
 Avg% +/-
IEM6 GC New York (3rd place)
 1.16 (2nd)
 +17%
3rd most kills (170)
4th best fragger (0.79 KPR)
2nd most consistent		    

As they were set to travel to New York in mid-October, the team was hit with a last-minute problem as Oliver "minet" Minet couldn't attend. They called upon the services of HLTV.org's Marc "Nix0n" Winther Kristensen to help them in the group stage and after they managed to secure a spot in the playoffs, they flew in Christian "turkizh" Bindslev. Despite playing with a stand-in, they gave SK Gaming some trouble by winning the second map of the semi-final, but had to settle for 3rd place in the end after a victory over UMX.

Heldt and his teammate Danny "zonic" Sørensen were the only bright spots in mTw, as they carried them through all of the matches. He ended up with another very good 1.16 rating and was one of the event's best players once again.


Ace + 1vs3 against UMX

The team then skipped ESWC as well, and at the beginning of November they were released from the organization.

Tournament (team result) Rating
 Avg% +/-
DreamHack Winter 2011 (Quarter-final)
 1.08 (1st)
 +10%
All-Star nomination
    

The year didn't end for Heldt though, as he was called up by Anexis to help them out at DreamHack Winter, since their star player Nicolaj "Nuggi" Larsen was unable to attend the event in Sweden. They managed to reach the playoffs, but meeting the eventual champions fnatic meant it was the end of the road for them.

Heldt ended up as the team's best player, mainly thanks to an excellent performance in the quarter-final, especially in the first map that his team won 19-17, as he had an impressive 37:22 score (1.45 rating, 38% above average).

A one-man army

Although he missed out on several events near the end of the year, Martin "trace" Heldt was without a doubt one of the most impressive players in 2011. Even though mTw failed to win any titles, they were still quite successful and always a contender, while Heldt was among the best players at every event he attended (4x in All-Star lineups) and he always had a rating at least 10% above team's average.

The first four major events of the year were particularly successful for Heldt as he put in MVP worthy performances at each of them, as mTw achieved 2nd places at IEM5 European Finals and DreamHack Summer, and 3rd at IEM5 World Championship and Xperia PLAY. His most impressive display was at the Swedish event, where he even received the official prize as the Most Valuable Player.

He ended up with the 5th best rating of all players (1.21), while being the one who carried his team the most in regard to being rated above team average in 75% of his maps. He was also one of the most consistent players out there, with a rating above 1.00 in 72% of his maps.

In addition to that, he was top rated in 20 of his 68 maps, which is shared 2nd most of all players, and was also shared 4th best fragger with 0.80 kills per round and the 4th best in pistol-rounds.

With all those impressive statistics in mind, along with the facts that he was one of the top players in each of the 7 events he attended, and that he was a true star of his team, Heldt was certainly one of the best in the world during the whole 2011, so he was placed at the 4th position.

Lastly, it's worth noting that Heldt is currently without a team for the 2012 year and is not officially retired, but hopefully we will see him in action soon in the future.

Recommended demos of Martin "trace" Heldt in 2011:

Opponent Map Event Score Demo
mouz
 inferno IEM5 Eu Finals (Group stage)
 26:11 POV
SK  train IEM5 Eu Finals (Group stage)
 29:18 POV
Lions nuke IEM5 Eu Finals (Quarter-final, map 1)
 31:7 HLTV
Fx nuke IEM5 Eu Finals (Semi-final, map 1)
 35:21 HLTV
TCM train IEM5 World (Group stage)
 27:5 POV
Fx inferno IEM5 World (Group stage)
 20:7 POV
RG
 tuscan Xperia prelude
 30:11 HLTV
M5
 nuke Xperia PLAY (Group stage #2)
 29:11 HLTV
fnatic inferno Xperia PLAY (Quarter-final, map 1)
 25:10 HLTV
fnatic tuscan
 Xperia PLAY (Quarter-final, map 3)
 24:11 HLTV
M5 tuscan DH Summer (Quarter-final, map 3)
 29:15 HLTV
mouz inferno e-Stars (Lower semi-final)
 24:10 HLTV
fnatic train DH Winter (Quarter-final, map 1)
 37:22 HLTV

What do you think about Heldt's performance in 2011, did he deserve the 4th position? And keep in mind that the entire 2011 counts, not just the parts closest to our memory.

If you want to check out the entire ranking, go to our Introduction article as it will be updated daily until we complete the list. Stay tuned to HLTV.org as tomorrow we will bring you our number 3.

Tags: trace

deserved
2012-01-17 01:41:57
trace? really?

f0rest > trace in 2011
2012-01-17 01:52:48
no
2012-01-17 01:58:54
taz too
2012-01-17 02:00:54
yes
taz no too
2012-01-17 02:03:52
+1
2012-01-17 02:05:11
+1
2012-01-17 02:24:21
by: t1ao
#84
+1
2012-01-17 02:11:26
+1
2012-01-17 02:27:04
both taz and f0rest > trace 2011 lol...
2012-01-17 03:25:38
by: gCN
#175
+1
2012-01-17 04:22:41
A one-man army- written by an expert, explains all.
Just imagine if trace had team mates like f0rest/GtR/Neo/markeloff/Taz etc....
that's why it is hard to believe for so many people that he is on 4 in this list.
btw nice job traceFFFFFFFFFF, good luck in future :)

Post edited 2012-01-17 04:51:03
2012-01-17 04:49:57
What could f0rest do for trace's team? It shouldn't be a advantage if you have a bad teammates.
f0rest won a lot of tournaments with his team, trace didn't. Maybe he could be like f0rest if he had a team like SK. You couldn't know how he's gonna play with good players. he should get better team then we can talk about it. Obviously overrated for now.
2012-01-17 07:30:45
Trace

Kills per round: 0.80
Deaths per round: 0.60
Rating: 1.21
Maps played: 68
MoM: 20 times top rated in a match
5th best rating (1.21), 3rd best fragger (0.80 KPR), 4th most consistent (72% of maps above 1.00 rating), carried his team the most (75% of maps above team's average), 8th most AWP kills (290), 4th best in pistol-rounds, best player on de_inferno (1.27 rating)


Forest

Kills per round: 0.77
Deaths per round: 0.60
Rating: 1.17
Maps played: 96
MoM: 20 times top rated in a match
Most notable stats: 2nd most kills (1922), best in pistol-rounds, best player on de_nuke (1.34 rating)

Decide for yourself
2012-01-17 10:20:53
i dont find great margin between those stats?and f0rest played 30 more maps than him which is like more 40% than trace xD
2012-01-17 10:27:11
f0rest played precisely 41.17647058823529411764705882353 percent more maps than trace this year. random fact
2012-01-17 10:55:46
and trace carried his team in 75% of occassions and still has better rating than f0rest..

think about it.
2012-01-17 11:07:57
man
this is only for major tournaments not for whole year , use that brain in your head pls
2012-01-17 11:09:06
f0rest's teammates in top20;
14. face
9. Delpan
and GTR in top3.
Trace's teammates in top20 ;
-------------
i ask you, don't you think it's normal that trace has more kpr?
Also f0rest got tons of 1st place.
you're talking with 0.03
2012-01-17 11:16:07
Normal, because trace > forest this year. Better team, more wins, less eco-rounds and still worse rating than trace.
2012-01-17 13:11:09
do you get it don't you? f0rest could the same rating if he had a worse team. how many times f0rest get a chance for 1vX's.
2012-01-17 13:16:53
stop trying to argue with f0rest fanboys, you will get no point, their skull is to thick to understand there are better players than f0rest.
2012-01-17 11:37:11
trace 68 maps
f0rest 96 maps.

f0rest % is above trace. f0rest 2nd most kills in 2011. he's a beast
2012-01-17 13:37:53
"if if " "if aliens existed" "if foxj was born in sweden" "if lady gaga had a penis"
2012-01-17 10:25:58
I thought lady gaga has a penis Oo\

anyway, Trace was a srsly 1 man army. But zonic always did great job too. But it doesn't change the fact that f0rest have a better teammates than trace had..
2012-01-17 12:42:26
Nicely said man, +1 I totaly agree with you,great job trace machine <33
2012-01-17 10:46:09
So true. Trace is the best player in my opnion, always topping the score and deciding games, even if his teammates are not doing their job right.
2012-01-18 18:01:20
ofc.
2012-01-17 04:59:05
You said I want to translate a little difficult, may be my English is too poor, ha ha

2012-01-17 10:05:11
Because I am a chinese,

Ha-ha

2012-01-17 10:13:44
Next will be spawn I think, then neo and f0rest
2012-01-17 23:49:10
YEEEEAH markeloff in top3 :D

neo top1 this year 100%



Post edited 2012-01-17 10:52:26
2012-01-17 10:51:08
+1

1, Neo
2, Markeloff
3, GTR
2012-01-17 16:18:32
1st GTR
2012-01-18 19:15:18
lETS C! MAY THE BEST PLAYER BECOME NUMBER 1! ;)
2012-01-18 21:09:45
No fucking way bro, f0rest has many -% and he also was carried by his team more than once, trace had to carry his team in almost every tournament, if mTw played more tourneys, won at least 2 and in the top of all didn't over, he would be 1st.
2012-01-17 02:03:38
a lot - because of his team lol....
2012-01-17 10:19:31
man for all tournaments this year not only major tournaments f0rests rating is above 1.00 , while trace have two times below 1.00
2012-01-17 11:11:06
dude,the events that matter are listed higher
2012-01-17 11:38:11
+1
2012-01-17 12:45:17
+1
2012-01-17 02:13:33
lol are you high? trace is way better than forest in this year,although forest played almost every single event this year,mtw skipped several including eswc as most important one,and just add that mtw were released from organization two months ago..
2012-01-17 02:23:58
1. trace won zero events what so ever. f0rest won four majors and one "small" event.

2. f0rest attended four more events than trace.

That should in my opinion overshadow a 0.4 difference, as kalle was ranked only 11th because he attended fewer events than the ones above him and that he didn't win any event, although he was the top rated, most dominant and best fragger of 2011.

f0rest played a great role in SK's success by the way. He's the best of 2011 in pistol rounds, which was maybe SK's biggest strength.

Post edited 2012-01-17 02:59:39
2012-01-17 02:48:23
0.04
2012-01-17 03:06:49
yeah lol
2012-01-17 13:07:30
i also wondered about this fact
2012-01-17 03:19:25
+1

Very unjustified rank, without much merit to place him above either taz or f0rest.
2012-01-17 03:40:19
true!
2012-01-17 07:02:13
good point but they can't stress that too much coz then this would become a team rank instead of a player rank
2012-01-17 07:26:12
+1 well said dude,just you simply CAN'T explain that to f0rp fan boyZ . . .
It's not Trace's fault because mTw disbaned a cs-team.Deserved 4th place,gg.
2012-01-17 10:54:59
20 times top rated in a match for both Forest and Trace
however Forest played 96 against 68 that of trace.
Kills per round: 0.80 Trace
Kills per round: 0.77 Forest
so Trace > Forest atleast this year
2012-01-17 10:24:31
No use to argue..Forest didnt played alone and won event by himself,in that time SK was unbeatable,still you dont compare events with players,no matter if trace won zero events,compare his and forest ratings.."Heldt was among the best players at every event he attended (4x in All-Star lineups) and he always had a rating at least 10% above team's average."
if mtw played every event this year,trace would be number one for sure
2012-01-17 14:03:16
haha, no
2012-01-17 14:04:38
not he won.but his team
I think trace rly > forest
2012-02-05 10:28:06
+1
2012-01-17 04:15:45
karrigaN > trace in 2011 . Unfortunately the trace was not in many championships. not think he deserved the top4
2012-01-17 07:24:04
fcuking idiot
2012-01-17 12:49:16
TRACE IN 1ST HALF 2011 > f0rest+TaZ IN 1ST HALF 2011

Post edited 2012-01-17 15:03:34
2012-01-17 15:03:13
HAHA +1 fanboys must stfu, stats tells everything!
2012-01-17 19:16:09
umadbro. trace>all
2012-01-18 10:41:36
+1 :DA
2012-01-17 02:20:00
Trace is one man army
he is all-rounder..
his game sense is jst above f0rest ...
and by the way trace has more ratings than f0rest xD
2012-01-17 06:23:08
Exactly !
2012-01-17 10:55:44
completely deserved :)
2012-01-17 09:40:45
by: ol4
#359
deserved. keep it up trace!
2012-01-17 12:10:41
+1 deserved
2012-01-17 13:46:03
by: Budde
#2
w000000h000h0000000!
2012-01-17 01:42:03
yeah))
2012-01-17 01:42:13
expected
2012-01-17 01:42:17
bullshit
2012-01-17 01:42:22
+1

2012-01-17 01:45:47
-1
he`s the most complete player in the world
2012-01-17 01:52:17
by: DRM-
#45
after neo :D
2012-01-17 01:53:50
neo is great, but trace is much more complete than neo
2012-01-17 02:05:59
you're full of shit
2012-01-17 02:09:24
neo =< trace with rifles
neo < trace with awp
neo < pistols
neo have just more experience and know how to play in any situation, neo play at top level since 2003 or so, trace just since 2009
2012-01-17 02:15:10
/facepalm
2012-01-17 03:36:41
u n00b :-D
2012-01-17 05:51:38
no way
2012-01-17 06:43:37
let he laugh 8 hours first, then I will answer to your post.
2012-01-17 07:54:39
I love when you're saying it's normal because trace playing at top level since 2009 and neo does it since 2003 blablabla. You're missing the fact that neo should be (and he is already) a legend BECAUSE OF being a pro since 2003 and still being capable to do a lot of damages to other teams and their new rising stars. Since 2003 this guy just owned everyone, and in 2011 he was clearly way better than trace. I don't think trace is much compete than neo, he has not his brain and movements (trace has good movements tho) and he's way better with rifles.
2012-01-17 10:59:49
Why u no sucide? -.-
2012-01-17 16:19:46
my man!
2012-01-18 10:42:20
:D
2012-01-18 13:18:03
wen he says that trace is more complete is on the terms of all rounder (:
2012-01-17 08:59:28
after markelof... but hell yeah trace rocks
2012-01-17 01:53:50
yeah ofc after Neo , f0rest,gtr
2012-01-17 11:12:13
stfu
f0rest is top 5 ;)
2012-01-17 12:52:51
:D
2012-01-19 01:58:32
by: wrd-
#94
yes , you are bullshit
2012-01-17 02:15:52
expected.
2012-01-17 01:42:43
OMG.
2012-01-17 01:43:35
yeaaaah, deserved

A ONE-MAN ARMY

Post edited 2012-01-17 01:51:54
2012-01-17 01:43:42
+1
2012-01-17 05:53:15
+1
2012-01-17 06:41:36
almost like neo !
2012-01-17 12:04:41
:O
2012-01-17 01:44:08
as i wrote , expected .

by the way

Most notable stats: 5th best rating (1.21), 3rd best fragger (0.80 KPR), 4th most consistent (72% of maps above 1.00 rating) carried his team the most (75% of maps above team's average), 8th most AWP kills (290), 4th best in pistol-rounds, best player on de_inferno (1.27 rating)


ONE MAN ARMY !!

Post edited 2012-01-17 01:45:38
2012-01-17 01:44:17
gj trace !
2012-01-17 01:44:29
bullshit
2012-01-17 01:44:33
Now is all cleard
NEO
GTR
markel
2012-01-17 01:45:08
Now is all cleard
GTR
NEO
markel
2012-01-17 01:59:30
Even with WCG 2011 win NEO has less frags, kpr, dpr afaik. Though GTR is lil' bitch obviously.
2012-01-17 02:29:20
:D
2012-01-17 01:45:14
nice
2012-01-17 01:45:43
OMG player lion wtf trace 4 FAKE
2012-01-17 01:45:50
bullshit , f0rest deserved that top:)
2012-01-17 01:46:01
expected
2012-01-17 01:46:35
This was expected trace is a really talented player. Top 1 Top 2 Top 3 will be Markeloff, GT, NEO not in that order though.
2012-01-17 01:47:04
TRACE HIGHER THAN TAZ OR F0REST ?
BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
He had good half of the year but NOT whole year.
And look at team achivments:
1st - / ??? sorry
2012-01-17 01:47:23
LETS CRY!
2012-01-17 01:51:00
go sleep fanboy
2012-01-17 01:52:57
ironic
2012-01-17 05:02:04
+1
2012-01-17 10:22:23
+1
2012-01-17 11:51:33
he missed same amount of events like markeloff/starix so they shouldnt be as well?
2012-01-17 01:58:20
look stats and compare
2012-01-17 02:00:09
u should look them too and u will se that f0rest deserve more that place ;]
2012-01-17 11:13:47
trace > Taz
sorry
2012-01-17 02:00:37
Polish guys have shame of you i believe, its because guys like you that polish fanboys are so popular here.
2012-01-17 02:10:04
did you read the whole text,

i shared some parts of your opinion, but reading destroys ignorance.

hf reading bro
2012-01-17 03:20:29
Ye I think we should put Loord, ceh9 and robban ahead of trace, after all their team had a better year than mTw... you realize how ridiculous it would be ?
2012-01-17 07:18:31
ceh9 :D
prolly the worst player through the year tho, navi should be happy markeloff is there to make up for 2-3 players just by himself or navi wouldnt win shit this year..
2012-01-17 10:52:53
/facepalm
2012-01-17 07:40:42
Its based on stats, which means its not debateable. Also cry me a river.
2012-01-17 18:11:18
sry but u are retard
2012-01-18 10:43:19
trace rlz!
2012-01-17 01:47:39
3 danish players in top10 and not one of the is playing in a danish team.
2012-01-17 01:48:43
trace was
2012-01-17 01:50:30
where?
2012-01-17 01:51:19
im talking like.. u know present time?
2012-01-17 02:04:32
Friis was Karrigan was

2012-01-17 12:27:23
could you make a special button in the TOP 20 PLAYERS, where we can compare hes stats from this year to the last year, thx! and if possible to the rest of the players aswell
2012-01-17 01:49:32
trace is insane, please:

trace
zonic
roman
gob b
karrigan
2012-01-17 01:49:43
by: t1ao
#50
-roman
+friis
-gob b
+Sunde / Arcadion
2012-01-17 01:55:56
I don't think so. It would b great to see trace in mousesports. really. god b is an excellent igl, plus they know each other, I mean zonic roman gob b and karrigan. trace would be a great addition.
2012-01-17 11:04:26
- roman ?:D u just kidding right? and no way to put friss ... he is weak.
2012-01-17 12:20:57
friis is weak? and you think you know something about CS ? ... OK
2012-01-17 18:22:25
i know alot :)
2012-01-18 08:55:37
+1 i want see this line up so fkn harrrrrd
2012-01-17 02:27:01
yeah!
2012-01-17 11:04:52
ahahahah nice trace :D
2012-01-17 01:50:07
i dont think trace > f0rest and taz
2012-01-17 01:50:41
good job trace! Great player
2012-01-17 01:50:53
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLS
2012-01-17 01:50:55
by: bahR
#32
1 neo
2 gtr
3 ceh9\markeloff
2012-01-17 01:51:09
3 ceh9 :OO
2012-01-17 03:48:12
my fav. player, so fucking awsome :D
2012-01-17 01:51:11
NICE, good joob :)
2012-01-17 01:51:27
gz
2012-01-17 01:51:35
ok, since now this ranking is a joke :)
2012-01-17 01:51:50
the next is sebaxinho?
zote?
freakky?:P
2012-01-17 02:07:20
JonyBoy
2012-01-17 02:58:00
cxxxviii > trace
2012-01-17 04:23:41
look his stats at every tournament...
2012-01-17 07:51:54
1.GTR
2.NEo
3.Mark
2012-01-17 01:51:54
1.markeloff
2.NEO
3.GeT_RiGhT
2012-01-17 01:52:32
fanboy
2012-01-17 02:31:45
always in my heart ))
2012-01-17 08:26:54
xui tam
1.NEO
2.GTR
3.marik
2012-01-17 08:29:01
no.
2012-01-17 11:05:54
i have my respect to this player but honestly f0rest was better than him this year , trace has 2 times rating below 1.00, f0rest all ratings are better than 1.00 and trace have no achievements this year... but well done after all
2012-01-17 01:53:32
This is from major events, the ones that actaully mattered.
2012-01-17 02:18:12
and trace skipped 6 majors..so he shouldnt be in top20 by your logic
2012-01-17 02:37:12
I was talking about that he had 2 ratings below 1.00, which wasn't in major events...
Think before you post.
2012-01-17 13:35:38
place in top is decided by statistic from WHOLE year
take a look pls ;]
http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=247&playerid=58&am.. - trace

http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=247&playerid=29&am.. - f0rest
2012-01-17 11:18:23
nice^_^
2012-01-17 01:53:38
Neo
GR
loff
2012-01-17 01:53:52
gratz trace! beast
2012-01-17 01:54:35
Worst bs ever. trace being higher then f0rest and taz this year? trolololol
2012-01-17 01:54:48
oh yeah <3 trace
best player in the world imo,beast awp and aim,always on top.
i hope mouz or some1 will pick him as fast as possible..
2012-01-17 01:56:43
by: xata
#54
1.Neo
2.Markeloff
3.GetPios
2012-01-17 01:59:23
yeaa nice deserved
2012-01-17 01:59:32
by: t1ao
#57
the most talented player in the world...
but this year he didnt deserved the 4th place and not because of him but only because his team.
If it was top talented players the list should be like this:
1.NEo
2.trace
3.f0rest
4.n0thing
5.GTR
2012-01-17 01:59:38
+1
2012-01-17 02:10:48
A top5 list of talented players without REAL can't be taken seriously.
2012-01-17 03:01:40
;|
2012-01-17 06:24:38
Mentioning REAL before markeloff when talking about talent can't be taken seriously :)
2012-01-17 06:58:49
Well yeah it can. At least when it comes to RAW talent..
2012-01-17 17:18:59
I don't think talent shines more through than during finals in CS majors - markeloff has a pretty good record there is you ask me. I do think REAL was very talented, but when you rarely play the very best it becomes hard for people to judge that talent.
2012-01-17 19:57:17
I disagree actually. Shining during finals in CS majors is probably more about experience imo. Another factor is how much you've played.. I imagine markoloff's progression to be markantly better after the creation of Na'Vi.
2012-01-17 21:31:25
1. REAL

2012-01-17 07:24:49
the most consistent player. well deserved
2012-01-17 01:59:51
Do you guys have any idea how consistent trace is? It shouldn't even be possible to be this consistent in a team based game that is so random.

trace imo is amazing.
2012-01-17 01:59:54
trace rulez
2012-01-17 02:00:55
3.markeloff
2.get right
1.neo
2012-01-17 02:01:50
troll :D
2012-01-17 02:32:35
nice trace
dont retire plz
such unique player should find a good team
2012-01-17 02:03:08
2nd best rating (1.27)
2nd best fragger (0.84 KPR)
2nd best K-D difference (+71)
2nd most dominant (25x 3+ kills)
2nd best entry killer

because he was not the 2th then?
2012-01-17 02:03:16
Because it wasnt the same player who won all of these categories.
2012-01-17 02:12:22
deserved, rating 1st in a huge of time in many ocation and the bigs tournaments +1

Post edited 2012-01-17 02:12:47
2012-01-17 02:03:42
Any team that add trace, will succeed!
It would be epic if mouz add him, but its almost impossible :(
2012-01-17 02:04:42
all rounder player =)
2012-01-17 02:05:39
SIGN MY BOOBS PLEASEE! oh. sh1t im man! ok soo sign my... oh nonono dont worry :S

AHAHA

Trace &#9829;
2012-01-17 02:06:18
wtf, joke?
2012-01-17 12:40:49
Kind off... but i really love trace ak :D
2012-01-19 17:22:39
nice
2012-01-17 02:06:34
this top is joke really, trace > f0rest, taz it's fcuk bad joke -.- trace< f0rest taz
2012-01-17 02:07:28

Easy to say that when you didn't read the thread properly.

"4th most consistent (72% of maps above 1.00 rating) carried his team the most (75% of maps above team's average)" If he were ranked in front of NEO I would clearly agree with you. Taz had NEO to carry him when he was bad shape, and to help him doing the entry-fragger/madfragger job. So trace ? He did the AWP, the entry fragger and the madfragger brow... still wondering why he was ranked 4th ??? he should be 2nd if mTw attended to at least more 4 big events.... I think you are looking to the players as a TEAM performance, not the team performance due to HIM.....
2012-01-17 02:20:41
Now 3 hard days for every fanboy on this planet :D
2012-01-17 02:09:45
actually tomorrow's pick should be pretty obvious, and when they announce n2, n1 will be pretty clear ;) so I'd say 1 day :)
2012-01-17 02:42:26
Surely you aren't fanboy :D they whine for longer time than just shortly after announcement.

Still I think that 2 days left to be 100% sure :)
2012-01-17 02:49:46
IN YOUR ASS ZAAZ !
2012-01-17 02:11:12
Haha, why's that?
2012-01-17 08:36:28
f0rest>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>trace
2012-01-17 02:11:28
bad joke
2012-01-17 02:11:35
trace > markeloff
2012-01-17 02:12:20
trace>forest
2012-01-17 02:13:27
+1 but fanboys will never accept it
2012-01-17 02:15:44
In what life trace better than f0rest?Omg...I'm n0t f0rest fan but f0rest >>>>>>>>>>>>> trace
2012-01-17 06:47:53
deserved, he did amazing even when his team mates were AFK, he was never in the shadow of his team mate like f0rest and Taz had an amazing last half of season wen Neo stepped down a gear. Trace played 10 months of solid rape, then mTw disbanded and he still did well as a Stand In
2012-01-17 02:13:43
"10 months of solid rape" xD
2012-01-17 22:39:58
by: bish
#95
this is why you don't need mouse commands
2012-01-17 02:16:06
he's a beast.
2012-01-17 02:16:18
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU, even without playing the guy is top4 of the world lol

on the paper imo, trace is along with players like f0rest and neo for sure, but withou playing as many tournaments tournaments as others in this ranking, i don't agree on this place.

Post edited 2012-01-17 02:25:11
2012-01-17 02:22:09
trace , moddii , kalle , pronax and one more (manne :d , give that guy another chance) would be nice ... would be shame not to see best player nowadays playing again

Post edited 2012-01-17 02:26:51
2012-01-17 02:25:14
+tacky
2012-01-17 02:43:16
3.markeloff
2.get right
1.neo
2012-01-17 02:31:43
sucks that he didnt get more time. I mean he joined mTw in 2009 and then they disbanded mid 2011. really hope he finds a good home somewhere
2012-01-17 02:31:54
trace is awesome, for me trace, f0rest & neo the 3 most complete players of the world.


trace, NEO, f0rest GeT_RiGhT & markeloff unbeatable line-up

Post edited 2012-01-17 02:34:08
2012-01-17 02:33:05
ofc it would be, you just took the top 5 players in the world and put them in to one team >.>

Post edited 2012-01-17 08:43:50
2012-01-17 08:41:23
haha
2012-01-17 22:41:21
awesome player :) deserved.
2012-01-17 02:34:08
deserved !
2012-01-17 02:36:36
I dont belive:O trace doesnt deserves to be in top10 this year. I know that stats doesnt lie but take a look at the whole situation. His team didnt achieve antyhing this year, he also didnt even take a part in many important tournaments.


2012-01-17 02:40:51
ok it's fucking individual rating! He didn't play at GameGune, ESWC, SEC & WCG, the latter for which there was no danish representation at all! It's not that much, all of the teams missed some events!
You can't deny the fact that he earned 4 MVP nominations without even winning a tour, and he got nominated for All-Star line-up in every tournament he attended
2012-01-17 02:46:22
Since when this top20 is about team achievements?
It's about how much a player was able to shine and make a difference in tournments. His team doesn't need to have won all the tournments. If mtw had 3 more traces I can bet my ass that you wouldn't see SK winning so much tournments in 2011.
2012-01-18 18:10:59
f0rest, taz, karrigan >
2012-01-17 02:41:22
hes sick!
2012-01-17 02:43:42
nice joke hltv.org
2012-01-17 02:44:02
fOrest<trace ,this is a joke,really
2012-01-17 02:52:54
yeah! Delpan, f0rest, karrigan > trace in 2011
2012-01-17 02:54:23
delpan? jajajaja nt viejo
2012-01-17 03:20:23
lol hahaha
trace much better then delpan and karrigan
2012-01-17 07:28:10
hatersg0nnahate :)
trace da monstah :)
2012-01-17 02:46:42
f0rest > neo > markeloff > trace


rly
2012-01-17 02:49:08
not.
neo > marik > forest > trace
2012-01-17 07:29:07
traceF is amazing, waiting for the 3rd?
2012-01-17 02:54:44
Despite not attending several majors last year, you can't take away that he's an amazing player, who never really disappointed and was always amongst the very best of the events attended. Deserved (haters eat me).
2012-01-17 02:57:48
trace the best !
2012-01-17 02:58:06
dont retire!
2012-01-17 03:11:09
1_ GeT_RiGhT
2_ Neo
3_ markeloff
2012-01-17 03:13:53
gj trace.
2012-01-17 03:16:51
1_ Neo
2_ GeT_RiGhT
3_ markeloff
2012-01-17 03:19:43
No way. GTR's top1 this year.
2012-01-17 03:21:47
imo NEO.
2012-01-17 03:23:17
expected flag!
2012-01-17 03:26:03
who cares about my flag ? still neo>gtr in my opinion
2012-01-17 03:28:02
Yep, NEO>>>ALL
2012-01-17 06:41:49
rofl +1, no sense talking to fanboys.
2012-01-17 08:51:06
karrigan > trace
xizt > trace
taz > trace
f0rest > trace
gux > trace
2012-01-17 03:19:47
o.O nt
2012-01-17 03:21:38
yes
2012-01-17 03:26:50
nopenopenope
trace better then fuckin xizt and karrigan
trace much better then taz
and better then forest and gux
trace is a monstah
xizt is a shit!
2012-01-17 07:30:37
are you fking mad or sth,wat is your problem,btw?
2012-01-17 07:36:07
u mad bro
2012-01-17 20:12:40
Maybe in your dreams.
2012-01-18 18:13:18
whats?...oh wait...
2012-01-18 19:11:41
karrigan,xizt,gux ? noway ;}
i like gux too but http://troll.me/images/yao-ming/bitch-please.jpg
2012-01-17 11:22:34
One of my three the best players in the world(active players) but he should be out of this list. He skipped half of the year(ESWC, WCG and other). Its very pitty that team broke up.

Post edited 2012-01-17 03:22:46
2012-01-17 03:20:54
he played 10 months
2012-01-17 10:19:27
No doubt a fantastic player, but the achievements of Taz and f0rest far outweigh trace's higher rating. I don't think HLTV are being consistent on this, given Kalle's (understandably) low rank.
2012-01-17 03:25:17
by: Tgwri1s - HLTV.org
#156
kalle's so lowered rank comes from the fact that other players with such low amount of maps/tournaments weren't even considered for the top, but he played so well, that he had to be included.

trace had more than enough maps and tournaments to give a realistic impression and in each one that he played he did great. And lastly, he was actually lowered one place due to his team's poor results.

TaZ and f0rest did have those many achievements, but so did players who will be in front of trace and who were those teams' main stars.
2012-01-17 03:34:45
There's a fair amount of subjectivity in deciding how to weigh the various stats, I know. But I do still believe you gave a higher weight to team achievements for other players, whether positive or negative (e.g. Starix, Pasha, Karrigan, Kalle) than you did for Trace.

Nonetheless, awesome work in general :)
2012-01-17 03:42:19
by: Tgwri1s - HLTV.org
#180
Thanks. :)

And for the sake of discussion, and due to you being the only person with actual sensible arguments, I'll try to reply.

I think you have a slightly wrong idea about how much team achievements had weight. Of course they did, but it's actually more about player's influence during those team achievements.

For example, karrigan's biggest and really only important influence was at ESWC and somewhat at DreamHack Winter (4th isn't really an achievement, but it's a semi-final) and Guangzhou.
If he had say 1 more really big achievement, or two smaller ones where he was team's best, he would have been on a similar level as trace in the team achievement regard.

In the same way, while starix didn't have any similar influence on his team's achievements, he still had 6 solid tournaments (more than most players) and that was the main reason for his inclusion.

TaZ and f0rest do have better team achievements, but TaZ was only their main star at SEC, and f0rest at GameGune and Xperia. Both less than trace, who was by far the team's best in 4 major top3 finishes.

And looking at it overall, trace was more consistent than both of them, didn't have any even close to bad tournaments, and he carried his team more than anyone else. These factors had a lot of influence.

As I mentioned, the players who are above trace will be there because they were even more impressive in their teams' achievements and/or in other factors.

Lastly, of course there is subjectivity in this, it's likely that someone who would use the exact same weighing factors as me would come up with a different list, and I'd actually love to see someone try :)
2012-01-17 04:33:28
convincing words of explanation, I guess everyone will be glad to see them after every single player from top 3 now xP
2012-01-17 07:30:31
the trolls wont read that anyway..
2012-01-17 08:22:49
If I agreed with everything it wouldn't be half as much fun :) But given the assumptions you made, I do now agree with the placing.

I would have given slightly less weight to tournaments in which players carried their teams, for a reason I discovered while playing dreamteam - it's never a good strategy to buy five players (or four or even three, depending on the stage of the tournament) from the same team.

It appears to be easier for a good player to get a high rating when in a lower team. The obvious explanation seems to be there's less competition for frags, especially on anti-ecos.

Post edited 2012-01-17 12:01:39
2012-01-17 11:52:39
Still the team with more rounds lost would have the more eco's.
A better team would also get a better seed, in which case they would meet a worse opponent in the group stage - resulting in a high K/D for everyone on the team.

2012-01-17 18:28:54
Unless it's a total thrashing, the top-rated player of the losing team is usually above the second or third-rated player of the winning team - in my experience, at least; I should run the numbers on this at some point.
2012-01-17 19:29:35
Finally a comment to silence the ragers, thanks for the great work.
2012-01-17 18:25:32
I enjoy much more this explanation than all main text. Thanks for the great job.
2012-01-17 20:23:44
Not deserved
2012-01-17 03:26:44
So much rage, always nice to see. Truly a one man army, a shame he isn't playing atm. Don't get why ppl are mentioning team performance, when this is based on individual performances.

Post edited 2012-01-17 03:29:23
2012-01-17 03:26:51
gratz trace.


I belive in markeloff.
2012-01-17 03:27:14
1. neo
2. gtr


Post edited 2012-01-17 03:42:01
2012-01-17 03:39:38
gj, hope trace will be even more better in this year!
2012-01-17 03:44:15
Trace in the top4 and above f0rest??? is this a troll?

Maybe you should have included the statistics on the amount of times Trace was last alive/baited his whole team

2012-01-17 03:48:23
by: VN
#165
3.marik
2.gtr
1.NEO!!!!!!!!!
2012-01-17 03:54:49
trace better than f0rest? the biggest joke of the millenuim
2012-01-17 03:55:04
hltv.org <3 trace just that guys :D
2012-01-17 04:01:29
HAHA
2012-01-17 04:08:19
+1

1st - /
2nd - IEM5 European Championship Finals, DreamHack Summer
3rd - IEM5 World Championship, Xperia PLAY (shared with RG-Esports)

top4? WTF?
2012-01-17 04:12:43
All these tournaments where his team archieved 2nd and 3rd, trace was the key of sucess, carrying in all ways.


You guys need to know the individual archievements (trace's influencial in his team's sucess, for example) has more weight than team's archievement, so Taz and f0rest had a "help" from their teammates when they weren't doing a good job, trace otherwise was solid/consistent all the time.

Sry my English, :}}

Post edited 2012-01-17 07:02:50
2012-01-17 06:57:46
+1 :/
2012-01-17 04:21:27
stupid fanboys this was not given because of emotions. That are clear evidences and facts to show why he deserved that place. STOP CRYING. god damn kids.
2012-01-17 04:07:44
Lol at this top20, wtf.
2012-01-17 04:08:54
trace > delpan, karrigan, friis, f0rest, taz? I hope you are kidding...
2012-01-17 04:22:26
by: gCN
#178
Agree.. +1
/facepalm
2012-01-17 04:29:51
+1 hah :x
2012-01-17 14:00:51
Trace>forest why? because forest has way better teammates than trace and if forest didn`t play good others will shine and carry on carry on..what about trace if he don`t play good , team will loss so why he high rated 70% his game and called ONE MAN ARMY. also this is statistic mb forest can do either instead of him
2012-01-17 04:28:19
i am a very big fan of f0rest no doub but i most be honest, trace is something speciel, he is such and amazing player great aim good in 1nx and he can turn a whole match by himself, and he is so stabel in every singel match he plays
2012-01-17 04:31:28
"he is such and amazing player great aim good in 1nx and he can turn a whole match by himself, and he is so stabel in every singel match he plays"

The exact same could be said for f0rest.

These are just rankings, in reality f0rest and trace are pretty much identicle.
2012-01-17 04:59:07
well my opinion trace is more stabel than f0rest atm
2012-01-17 23:07:03
nice
2012-01-17 04:33:43
top 1 Loord !!
2012-01-17 04:42:58
mother of god are u kidin me o.O............
2012-01-17 05:00:29
no matter how good you are, if you don't win any championship..you fail.

my point is, f0rest > trace, this year.

oh btw, f0rest also carried SK, though prolly not as much as trace.
2012-01-17 04:53:20
4th trace disagree
2012-01-17 05:01:22
lol.!
deserved 4th.!!!
2012-01-17 05:33:00
go watch any demo of mTw/Anexis(when trace filled in), he actually baits his whole team almost every single round.

Pita even said in an interview that Anexis would have been much better with their real 5th over Trace because Trace is always baiting, and it's just bad for the team.....sure it boosts his stats nicely, but there's a reason the teams he play in never win anything lolol.

I think it's pretty obvious HLTV.org don't want this top 20 to be taken seriously by putting trace above f0rest anyway
2012-01-17 05:38:29
From Tgwri1s post #180 :

TaZ and f0rest do have better team achievements, but TaZ was only their main star at SEC, and f0rest at GameGune and Xperia. Both less than trace, who was by far the team's best in 4 major top3 finishes.

And looking at it overall, trace was more consistent than both of them, didn't have any even close to bad tournaments, and he carried his team more than anyone else. These factors had a lot of influence.

And could you explain to me how can he be the world's best entry fragger if he's allways baiting his team...?
2012-01-17 06:17:52

""And could you explain to me how can he be the world's best entry fragger if he's allways baiting his team...?""

haha I was about to ask the same :DD angry kid is angry
2012-01-17 08:16:55
He's just another f0rest fanboy and got angry... :P
2012-01-17 21:02:42
Selected for All-Star lineup
2nd best rating (1.27)
Best rating in playoffs (1.33)
Most kills (267)
2nd best fragger (0.84 KPR)
2nd best K-D difference (+71)
2nd most dominant (25x 3+ kills)
Most consistent
2nd best entry killer


entry killer = 1st frag of the round? if yes... then bait? lol
2012-01-17 06:33:26
I've watches most demo's already, and I can easily tell you, you're wrong.
I think it's you who should watch some demos.
2012-01-17 07:52:39
I think it's pretty obvious you don't want us to take you seriously when you write crap like that - especially since trace is the worlds second best entry fragger. By the way, do you think it's trace' call to play the "bait" role as he so often (according to trolls, like yourself) does? It's not.
2012-01-17 10:02:09
Haha moron :D
2012-01-17 11:41:44
Deserved. gj trace
2012-01-17 05:49:19
One of my top 3 favourite players the last couple years :]
2012-01-17 05:59:25
f0rest > trace
FUCKING TOP20. :)
2012-01-17 06:08:08
+1
2012-01-17 06:23:44
most complete player
deserved
2012-01-17 06:17:25
great, trace bezt <333
2012-01-17 06:18:51
This rating is game stats and not People's Choice Award
2012-01-17 06:19:02
but they choose how to weigh each stat to come up with the final measure, so there *is* bias to it
2012-01-17 06:27:13
yeah i agree with that. But almost every user chose a its favorite player, and it's been writing brainless posts. It's not right. I think so, do you?

Post edited 2012-01-17 11:34:41
2012-01-17 11:32:30
oh yes, definitely agree. While these are at least chosen based on some stats, most people posting go off their gut feeling of how each player did over the year.
2012-01-17 20:13:52
If "mTw" continued with playing this whole year, trace would've been number 1 for sure, but shit happens.. :]
2012-01-17 06:31:59
In 1st half of the 2011 every second post was "SK BAD TEAM, to bad for GTR AND f0rest he leaves fnatic", Xizt, trace, neo best players. 2nd half "mTw was a bad team", karrigan, f0rest, friis, gtr, neo best players...
This is a subjective rating HLTV.org based on K / D, MoM or something like that. Take it easy, cs team game, stop talk who was better.
Sorry for my english...
2012-01-17 06:32:27
my father > trace
2012-01-17 06:36:26
wtf your father< me
2012-01-17 06:51:10
are you gtr's or markeloff's or neo's son?
2012-01-17 11:37:18
EEEEEE baby!!! nice!
2012-01-17 06:42:44
Well deserved!
2012-01-17 06:50:27
Nice one
Now 3. markeloff
2. GTR
1. Neo
2012-01-17 06:57:24
trace dno
2012-01-17 06:58:21
Trace was fucking amazing 2011, Top3 imo! no one carried his team like trace did.
2012-01-17 07:08:12
+1
2012-01-17 15:35:19
+1
2012-01-17 23:09:37
I never noticed how outstanding he played, always first in his team :O
2012-01-17 07:11:52
So many "lolumad" to give here with all the bullshit I can read... Obviously deserved.
2012-01-17 07:20:58
deserved.. he's sick!
2012-01-17 07:30:13
4th is a wee bit high
2012-01-17 07:30:56
1. Vedimak
2. ColoN
3. manne
2012-01-17 07:41:38
GJ Tgwri1s! Keep your work!!!
2012-01-17 07:44:28
nice one TG! Next gtr/neo.
2012-01-17 07:44:59
by: r32
#243
well done trace ! next year if you find a great team you'll be definetly first or second
keep going !
2012-01-17 07:54:41
totally deserved!
2012-01-17 08:01:28
NEO
GTR
markel
2012-01-17 08:08:22
trace, friis, arcadion, karrigan + suranga/minet dreamteam! 3 danes in top10, but no top team :/
2012-01-17 08:12:01
gj man
2012-01-17 08:12:58
deserved [No ESWC WCG]
(but Nix0n > TRACE :D)

2012-01-17 08:18:34
deserved ? lol
2012-01-17 08:23:27
SICK PLAYER
2012-01-17 08:29:48
trace should go to DTS :D
2012-01-17 08:31:30
one of the best (if not the best) overall players of all time, but i dont know whether he deserved this spot in 2011.
2012-01-17 08:32:47
if neo don't be top1 polish fanboys destroy hltv :D sry for my english

Post edited 2012-01-17 08:34:15
2012-01-17 08:33:58
if neo is 1st, this would just tell us how stupid this ranking is. even taz was better.

but those stats are pretty worthless anyway.
2012-01-17 08:38:24
Neo will be 1st. I don't know what are you talking about. He played brilliantly almost during whole year.
2012-01-18 00:09:44
Where is the FOX???

markeloff top2??? agree, but i wont more russian!!! ))
2012-01-17 08:42:38
really
where FOX?
2012-01-17 08:54:13
+1337
2012-01-17 08:57:43
deserved , stats talk people :d
2012-01-17 08:50:10
4 times all star nominated and 1 Mvp nomination!
75% of times above teams average!
TRACE IS A #$%&!$# BEAST!
Whoever think he doesn't deserve this place, go watch the "Recommended" demos!
Amazing work ! Hltv people! :)
2012-01-17 08:52:27
+1 Nice.
2012-01-17 11:40:19
This ranking system makes no sense.
2012-01-17 08:54:54
why ? you make no sense
2012-01-17 11:04:42
reply to 297 ,too tired to write sth new.
2012-01-17 11:06:19
Neo, Get right and Carn top 3
2012-01-17 08:57:13
Deserved :)
2012-01-17 08:57:37
I dont like him, but he deserve to be 4th,he very very good, its statistic
2012-01-17 09:15:14
+1
2012-01-17 09:15:31
trace < forest, taz, delpan, karrigan, friis this year
2012-01-17 09:22:55
Eh, no?
2012-01-17 21:34:50
Deserved!
2012-01-17 09:30:18
people Lie , the numbers Dont
Trace great player and needs to get picked up by fnatic or mouz
2012-01-17 09:36:39
while Heldt was among the best players at every event he attended (4x in All-Star lineups) and he always had a rating at least 10% above team's average.
Says it all !!
2012-01-17 09:46:55
Although he missed out on several events near the end of the year, Martin "trace" Heldt was without a doubt one of the most impressive players in 2011. Even though mTw failed to win any titles, they were still quite successful and always a contender, while Heldt was among the best players at every event he attended (4x in All-Star lineups) and he always had a rating at least 10% above team's average.

thats enuff for me :)
2012-01-17 09:56:11
good!
2012-01-17 09:56:19
by: Dare_Dev1L - HLTV.org
#282
So many babies here, it was obvious he'd get this ranking considering he wasn't pampered by a top team like the others were. He carried his team, regardless of not winning any events.

People call this ranking BS just because it doesn't satisfy their preference, deal with it.
2012-01-17 10:01:18
expected, gj trace. :)
2012-01-17 10:07:54
DESERVED <3
2012-01-17 10:12:07
Srsly,somebody have to get a clue. 4 !!! from SK players are in top14 and GTR is higher than f0rest.Players from trace's team are not even in top20,you still think that f0rest was more carrying than trace?

Who am I talking to anyway,underrated player is underrated player. trace top3/top4 in 2010/2011 have less fans than Xizt top18/top13,Delpan top10/top9
2012-01-17 10:17:06
trace 4 ? lol = trace be between 10-15.. forest<5, trace<4 ? shit

but +1 trace
2012-01-17 10:23:50
70 percent of the comments are so ridiculously stupid , its almost unbelievable .... Ofcourse f0rest and taz were bigger players if you see the achievements of their respective teams , but trace carried his team with amazing performances ... JUST LOOK AT HIS FUCKING STATS U IDIOTS !!!
2012-01-17 10:24:47
GO NEO GO..!
2012-01-17 10:25:07
trace needs a team.

oh and btw:

#156:
"trace had more than enough maps and tournaments to give a realistic impression and in each one that he played he did great. And lastly, he was actually lowered one place due to his team's poor results."

he was also lowered once due to his team's results, so f0rest fanboys needs to calm down, he definitely deserved this.
2012-01-17 10:25:38
it's not only about f0rest,this rank makes no sense at all.

If trace's position is based on stats ( and they're really amazing ) , why is kalle 11 ( best rating (1.25), best fragger (0.83 kills per round), most dominant ) , or TaZ 6 ( 3rd most dominant, 2nd best rifler,4x Allstar,outstanding performance at many playoffs and HUGE contribution and influence to their game and titles ),same as gux and so on ?

Putting trace so close to Neo,markellof and others like them is such a joke.Don't get me wrong,he definitely deserve spot somewhere at top10 but top4 position is not what he deserve now.

"trace needs a team" - 100% .

Post edited 2012-01-17 11:02:01
2012-01-17 10:59:18
I agree with you 100% the only reason that trace was above kalle gux or TaZ was probably the fact that trace was the only reason behind mTw victoris in 2011 as he was always above team precentage.
2012-01-17 11:39:10
u didn't watch the mTw games
2012-01-17 12:40:16
first of all, he played way more tournaments than kalle and carried his team way more. same applies for taz, overall trace has better stats and keep in mind the ONLY player mtw had in top20 was trace, ESC had 3 and Neo was their best (statswise atleast).

So basically trace is a one army.

("..while being the one who carried his team the most in regard to being rated above team average in 75% of his maps..)

And please read my post once again, Tgwri1s says in his post (#156), that trace would actually be placed as the top3 if it was only based on individual stats.
2012-01-17 20:24:47
go neo

Post edited 2012-01-17 10:28:53
2012-01-17 10:28:29
by: gCN
#304
Let it be guys.. It's done.. We can't do anything and change about the fact that trace is 4th. So chillax =DDD
2012-01-17 10:47:08
traceF
2012-01-17 10:49:34
Trace Deserving Person :)
2012-01-17 10:57:52
trace > all
2012-01-17 10:59:06
trace KING!
2012-01-17 10:59:31
deserved, trace <3
2012-01-17 11:00:02
gg trace :) would be good if he is turn back to play
2012-01-17 11:03:13
All-star nomination in all tournaments
and 4 of them was mvp-nomination too
deserved
2012-01-17 11:28:17
Fanboys ranking. GJ
2012-01-17 11:29:01
the last numbers are date of your birthday?
2012-01-17 11:38:42
ohhh, you are g@nst@. ok. perhaps i go out from here.
2012-01-17 11:52:28
by: Rsc
#333
I THINK THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH MOST OF THE HATERS ARE THAT THEY DON'T EVEN READ THE HOLE POST ABOUT PLAYER. THEY POST REPLY SAYING SOMETHING LIKE "FOREST WON MORE TOURNAMENTS" STUFF, I MEAN... TEAM WINS TOURNAMENTS, NOT A PLAYER. AND STATISTICLY WISE, TRACE IS MUCH BETTER THIS YEAR, I REPEAT, THIS YEAR.
2012-01-17 11:30:34
You simply can't explain to fan boys those things,like this is the PLAYER ratings not team ranking,so I don't have time to argument with obvious dumb people who can't see the difference.This kind of job are doing people who exactly knows what to do,so they decided - TRACE above the forest,that's it. ^_^
2012-01-17 11:37:34
lets try something new: trace = f0rest :O
2012-01-17 11:30:53
+1
2012-01-17 11:35:38
1 NEO
2 GTR
3 Markeloff
2012-01-17 11:36:41
no fox no taz
trace > f0rest
OMFG!!!!
2012-01-17 11:37:57
suck it!
2012-01-17 11:52:09
Taz is 6th, what are you smoking?
2012-01-17 12:00:23
trace > f0rest



2012-01-17 12:12:07
deserved
2012-01-17 11:41:31
Deserved and good luck in future.
2012-01-17 11:49:52
f0rest > trace
2012-01-17 11:54:36
trace above pasha,loord, robban, face, delpan, kuben, xizt, pita, gux, roman, zonic (etc) so...
2012-01-17 11:59:24
deserved , hope he finds a good team.
2012-01-17 12:07:54
Next should be NEO[t].
2012-01-17 12:11:51
+1 neo will be 3rd(next)
2012-01-17 12:14:52
yeap.
2012-01-17 12:19:03
Ha, true. That fanboy-votes will not help him imo.
2012-01-17 12:19:46
1.markeloff
2.get_right
3.neo


Expected.
2012-01-17 12:12:53
1.markeloff-dA-LEGEND
2.GeT_RiGhTSHO
3.NEo[t]
2012-01-17 12:14:36
you call a legend player who plays at toplvl maybe 2 years? funny kid ;)

Post edited 2012-01-17 12:36:30
2012-01-17 12:35:33
1st - markeloff
2nd - Get_Right
3rd - Neo
2012-01-17 12:18:53
Hey guys, Neo will be next!
2012-01-17 12:19:25
Deserved
fantastic player
2012-01-17 12:19:45
1.markeloff/GTR
2.GTR/markeloff
3.neo
2012-01-17 12:20:19
+1
2012-01-17 12:21:35
GJ Tgwri1s and trace.

BTW Next will be ESC.Neo. And I'm sure that all remember how amazing was markeloff every event in 2011...
2012-01-17 12:21:21
3.markeloff
2.GeT_RiGhT
1.Neo
2012-01-17 12:22:42
markeloff will be 1st or 2nd, I think.
2012-01-17 12:24:52
NEO???? are you crazy? oh God seriosly. you really think that he was so good this year? to be the best player?????!

C'mon polish fanboys. It is obviously that he will be next(3rd). And even that position will be TOO HIGH for him this year.

I have all respect to neo, but...


1.markeloff/GTR
2.GTR/markeoff
3.neo(maximum)
2012-01-17 12:26:21
Trace? Omfg. Have you forget Pasha? 1st. mark 2nd. gtr 3rd. neo 4th. pasha
2012-01-17 12:23:55
WHAT THE FUCK? WHO? look for him at the bottom of this top20 list for christ sakes!
2012-01-17 17:05:01
Great job, trace! And TG for sure! :p


1.markeloff - truly AMAZING year, top1 awp, carry of the team, probably the best player for 2 last years.

2.get_right - great year, but his shape was good vs not so good teams in general imo.

3.Neo - I don't know why he is in top3, but I can't see him even in top5 to be honest. He wasn't so amazin', just fanboys carrying him all the time. But he is for sure very good oldschool player. He is 3rd Imo.
2012-01-17 12:24:22
top1 awp? what about delpan?
2012-01-17 17:03:46
markeloff the besttt
2012-01-17 12:27:27
Yeap, I'm sure that he will be 1st once again. :)
2012-01-17 12:27:52
by: jz-
#385
3rd for sure!
2012-01-17 12:28:54
and who first? Neo? oh are you kiddin' me?


2012-01-17 12:30:33
GeT_OuT_PoLiSh_fAnBoY
2012-01-17 12:31:28
markeloff will be 1 or 2 I think
2012-01-17 12:49:38
Haters gona hate ! GJ trace, expected !
2012-01-17 12:27:34
by: jz-
#383
expected,aamzing strong player!
2012-01-17 12:28:18
True list:


1.markeloff
2.get_right
3.neo
4.trace



Wait and see.
2012-01-17 12:28:18
TRUE:

1.markeloff
2.GTR
3.trace/f0rest




FOR POLISH PEOPLE:
1.NEO!
2.NEO!!!
3.OH, MAYBE NEO!!!!
2012-01-17 12:29:55
+999999999 but some retards really think that Neo deserves 1st place lol. it is so terrible...
2012-01-17 12:32:03
Well, he was just 3/4 times mvp this year, and almost at every tournament in top 3 *\o/*

GET REAL
2012-01-17 12:51:08
MVPs because what? do you remember? MVPs because of fake accounts of fanboys...
2012-01-17 13:08:09
Mvp = votes of fans with a lot of fakes.


GET REAL
2012-01-17 13:09:16
He got alot of votes from experts and hes very concistente


GET REAL

gtr , neo and marik will form top 3 fairly.
2012-01-17 15:03:05
yes but neo CANT be the first! i can give that markeloff was the best this year, but not neo, NEVER neo!
2012-01-17 17:02:57
No1 knows who will be the first but im sure it will be a close call.
2012-01-17 21:44:19
yeah, between Markeloff and GeT_RiGhT...
2012-01-17 23:11:40
Neo 4 times mvp , with votes from experts and fans.
If you dont consider him contender for The Best Player of 2011 then you're blind.
2012-01-17 23:18:27
experts? lol
2012-01-18 12:25:24
Do you even read the topics about mvp awards?
Mvp is atribuited to a player by public votes and expert votes.
2012-01-18 22:28:04
OMG, poles you're funny. you think you will fanboying Neo and he will be 1st because of it? LOOOOOOL
2012-01-17 13:10:30
are u really that stupid? lol
2012-01-17 17:01:56
true
2012-01-17 12:36:39
hey, we are just true fans!!! :D
2012-01-17 12:39:52
gj
2012-01-17 12:31:38
I'm always been fan of neo, but he will be next...


1.markeloff
2.gtr
3.neo
2012-01-17 12:32:38
+1 would be great and fair.
2012-01-17 12:39:36
+1
2012-01-17 12:42:55
+1
2012-01-17 13:07:40
+1
2012-01-17 13:08:35
lol trace 4 ,, f0rest 5 :) .....
2012-01-17 12:34:56
1st will be Markeloff or GTR...
2012-01-17 12:36:28
Next - NEO.
2012-01-17 12:37:03
3.neo[t]
2012-01-17 12:38:20
I predict Neo to be #3 :] he was great this year.
2012-01-17 12:39:12
OMG are u serious? first polish that i've ever seen around here with his head in the right place :) nice
2012-01-17 17:00:49
3.Neo

I'm sure. It will be too high for him really, but his team is top1-3 this year.

so 3rd will be Neo
2012-01-17 12:42:45
Neo (3)
2012-01-17 12:47:33
+1 ))
1. Markeloff
2012-01-17 12:49:22
Yeh.

1.markeloff
2.GTR
3.Neo


expected really =)
2012-01-17 12:50:27
i doubt, only because they(ESC) won more tournaments than navi
2012-01-17 17:00:01
where are that users who thought that trace won't be top4 ;)
he deserved it.
2012-01-17 12:47:51
Nice trace.

but Neo > trace


Nijo will be next in top =P
2012-01-17 12:49:02
He doesn't deserve it at all, he don't even played every major tournament...
2012-01-17 12:50:12
And Neo doesn't deserve to be in top5 so what? He is IN top3.
2012-01-17 12:51:07
Neo doesnt deserve top 3?
He carried his team every important match, was mvp on 3/4 events, important events, so whats up.
2012-01-17 12:52:56
So what? Markeloff carried his team much better. And GTR too.
2012-01-17 13:02:31
and markeloff not?!

markeloff is TRUE CARRY. he was it all events. For sure he has Edward and starix, but he was TOP CARRY!


and what neo? first half of the year he wasn't so good. TaZ was much better.
2012-01-17 13:03:42
actually neo was the best player in 1st half of the year.
2012-01-18 00:13:18
neither did ESC.pl or Na´vi, your arguement is invalid.

Post edited 2012-01-17 20:28:18
2012-01-17 20:27:40
bullshit.... karrigan,f0rest,friis,taz,fox > trace
2012-01-17 12:50:33
fox > trace? :D:D c'mon
2012-01-17 12:51:39
ofc NOT
2012-01-17 13:45:25
are you rly so stupid?
2012-01-17 15:18:22
u so stupid haha.
2012-01-17 15:55:20
TRACE I LOVE YOU <3
2012-01-17 12:51:55
me2
2012-01-17 15:55:38
good for trace.


3.NEOOO
2012-01-17 12:52:02
f0rest fanboys in agony
i wanna see you cry, bitches :D

Post edited 2012-01-17 13:02:40
2012-01-17 12:54:49
+1
2012-01-17 12:59:48
markeloff (1)
Get_Right (2)
Neo (3)
trace (4)
2012-01-17 12:55:00
+1! Tgwri1s made an amazin' work.
2012-01-17 12:56:55
1.markeloff-oNe-mAn-ArMY
2.GeT_RiGhT-SHo
3.Neo
2012-01-17 12:56:25
i knew it..
and now, i think 3.markeloff, 2. get right, 1. Neo
Good job trace!
2012-01-17 12:56:50
fags.. trace cant do ace every round..
2012-01-17 12:57:06
1.markeloff - EXPECTED
2.Gtr - EXPECTED
3.neo - EXPECTED
2012-01-17 12:59:26
good trace, next must be Neo!
2012-01-17 13:00:17
next - NEO[t]


nice one trace.


1st - markeloff
2012-01-17 13:01:48
like it.... These fanboys are jealous NO FOREST NO TAZ NO NO..
2012-01-17 13:04:11
Neo was good only in second half of the year. So I think


3) neo.
2012-01-17 13:04:22
markeloff is most hard worker of all players, I hope he will be 1st :)
2012-01-17 13:05:40
and NEo will be 2!


1.Markeloff
2.Neo
3.GeT_RiGhT
2012-01-17 13:06:08
good 1 :)
2012-01-17 16:58:10
1] markeloff
2] Get_right
3] neo
2012-01-17 13:07:12
his best year! gg
2012-01-17 13:10:59
His the best year was in 2010, he was top3 or top2 after markeloff.


Update:

yes, I was right.

2010:

1.markeloff
2.get_right
3.trace

Post edited 2012-01-17 13:13:23
2012-01-17 13:11:57
I just lol'd how some polish fanboys always saying about that MVP titles. HAHAHA, Mvp title because of fanboys it is nice argument. And even that fanboys were not true, just some fakes.
2012-01-17 13:11:18
karrigan > trace
2012-01-17 13:15:46
Thank you Tgwri1s!!!!



My prediction:

1.markeloff
2.get_right
3.neo
2012-01-17 13:16:15
deserved :)
2012-01-17 13:27:41
nice
2012-01-17 13:31:43
1.Neo
2.GTR
3.Markeloff
2012-01-17 13:32:35
tracee :d
2012-01-17 13:35:51
let's hope this rank make him want to play again :)
2012-01-17 13:40:08
gj.
2012-01-17 13:41:07
trace awesome player, stfu gays
ofc he deserved 4th place
2012-01-17 13:43:53
Sorry but not deserved at all... sad but true.
2012-01-17 13:45:02
yea, it must be kuben, pasha or loord, right?
2012-01-17 14:42:27
LUq obviously
2012-01-17 15:31:22
i didnt say that. Trace wasn't better then forest this year 4sho.
2012-01-18 18:20:39
yeah, he should be higher, thats whats wrong.. ffs
2012-01-17 16:57:28
Sadly, no.
2012-01-18 18:21:00
not deserved. f0rest > trace this year.
2012-01-17 14:03:52
not deserved. f0rest, taz and friis were better than him
2012-01-17 14:09:34
trace was better than those guys, just look at statistics dude and for fuck sake shut up
2012-01-17 14:38:27
deserved place indeed.

Cmon guys,if you would look to team achievements, then the top would be all SK,ESC,Na'Vi and fnatic or any other top team and it wouldn't be interesting.

trace was beast this year,tho he's team didn't succed well, he managed to be an awesome player every tournament, no matter mTw won or lost, he just destroyed other teams and he is universal player, who can be decent rifler and on other hand, one of best awp player.
2012-01-17 14:11:11
the 4th player is TRACE in whole world n he's without team or sponser ,,, really bullshit :S
GJtrace <3
2012-01-17 14:12:51
najjjjssssss.......
2012-01-17 14:14:36
1.markeloff
2.get_right
3.neo
2012-01-17 14:28:06
pita top3 :D
2012-01-17 14:30:27
To all the haters saying for example that taz should have been higher than this guy, come on dude just look at statistics!
I mean TRace has just been beasting all year long like last year and he deserves so much respect and consideration for this. He's just the most complete player along with markeloff.
I just can't wait to see him next year with some top scandinavian players, this guy still has so much to show.
That's funny cause we didn't see trace much this year but still when I look at statistics I couldn't think about someone else than him placing 4th. He's been awesome in every big tournaments.

Post edited 2012-01-17 14:37:12
2012-01-17 14:34:45
1.markeloff
2.gtr/neo
3.neo/gtr


I think 3rd will be NEO.
2012-01-17 14:37:33
top1 - markeloff or Neo
2012-01-17 14:38:35
1- neo
2- markeloff/get
3- get/markeloff
2012-01-17 14:46:18
1.markeloff
2.get_right
3.neo
2012-01-17 14:47:33
Such a nice end of the career :/
2012-01-17 15:00:01
cs will be different without mTw :(
2012-01-17 15:02:39
agree....
m damn missing mTw :|
2012-01-17 16:01:17
+1 :/
2012-01-17 19:20:06
and
3.markeloff
2.GeT_RiGhT
1.Neo
2012-01-17 15:03:55
and

3.Neo
2.GeT_RiGhT
1.markeloff
2012-01-17 15:26:03
and
3.markeloff
2.neo
1st. the one and only, GT!
2012-01-17 16:56:16
we will see
2012-01-17 18:04:24
that was to be different lol 3rd neo, 2nd gt and 1st markeloff
2012-01-17 18:09:24
IMO
1.NEO
2.GTR
3.MARKELOFF
2012-01-17 18:57:28
neo? good joke :)
2012-01-17 19:57:24
we will see
2012-01-17 18:04:06
good
2012-01-17 15:06:01
nice man
2012-01-17 15:12:45
trace go is back
2012-01-17 15:27:13
1.GTR
2.NEO
3.markel

but i dont agree that trace is > than forest this year
2012-01-17 15:27:41
epic results!
2012-01-17 15:35:58
best, i hope he will back soon
2012-01-17 15:36:31
f0rest > markeloff > trace

f0rest top3 2011

2- NEO
1- GET_RIGHT
2012-01-17 15:46:05
nop
2012-01-17 16:55:35
Nice! Let's hope trace finds a new team soon, such a waste of a good player. :)
2012-01-17 15:50:13
+1
gob b out......trace in :D
GG mousesports :D
2012-01-17 16:00:09
such a beast and so underrated... please come back, trace!
2012-01-17 16:01:10
+
2012-01-17 16:40:55
f0rest > trace this year
2012-01-17 16:07:01
gtfo all haters
2012-01-17 16:10:25
firstly i was like wtf trace > forest ? but then i (took an arrow to the knee) saw all that achievements for trace (mvp nominations,allstar nominations);)
2012-01-17 16:10:32
traceFFFFFFFFFF~~~
2012-01-17 16:16:26
SK should add him
2012-01-17 16:43:48
Looool? Unexpected
2012-01-17 16:48:08
amazing player !
2012-01-17 16:50:38
nice,
2012-01-17 16:52:14
freaking BRILLIANT if u ask me!


where are all the haters that said Trace wouldnt be in this top20?
2012-01-17 16:55:03
:))))) nice
2012-01-17 17:05:36
When the top3 are published, I will for sure not read the comments. Inb4 fanboy-rage in the next couple of days.
2012-01-17 17:24:06
markeloff top1 ^^
2012-01-17 17:46:28
xochu wob tak bylo
2012-01-17 18:05:35
1. markelon ;p
2. GTR
3. NEO
it's true
2012-01-17 17:46:31
GJ trace. Too much f0rest funboys ...
2012-01-17 17:48:58
trace the man! <3
2012-01-17 17:53:22
1.Get_Right
2.Neo
3.Markeloff

*** END OF STORY ***
2012-01-17 18:25:15
+1
2012-01-19 02:01:55
gtr mark and neo
2012-01-17 18:26:48
1st - /

Enough said.
2012-01-17 18:42:25
1- GeT_RiGhT
2- markeloff
3- NEO

for me, it's that :)
2012-01-17 18:44:23
i love this player, trace best in the world!
2012-01-17 18:45:03
Imagine if he plays the full year!
Deserved!
2012-01-17 19:17:29
1. Neo
2. GTR
3. Markeloff
4. Forest
5. TaZ
6. Trace
2012-01-17 19:55:24
1. Gtr
2. Markeloff
3. Neo
2012-01-17 20:04:57
<3
2012-01-17 20:07:56
I think...
1 - Gtr
2 - Neo
3 - Mark
2012-01-17 20:09:22
1 - marik
2 - gtr
3 - neo
2012-01-17 20:10:52
markeloff is good player, but no top 1 in ths year
2012-01-17 21:10:51
why that? he is for sure top1 once again.

1.markeloff
2.gtr
3.neo
2012-01-17 21:32:45
1.manne
2.colon
3.vedimak
2012-01-17 20:13:22
O_o
2012-01-17 20:50:34
LOL
2012-01-17 21:10:19
HAAHHAHAHAHAHA +1000
2012-01-17 21:40:43
trace da king !
2012-01-17 20:25:35
1- MARKELOFFFFFF

AGREE TRACE, AMAZING PLAYER!!!
2012-01-17 20:26:35
1st NEO 2nd Markeloff 3rd GeT_RiGhT
2012-01-17 20:26:45
I thk that mark can be higher Neo or GTR.
2012-01-17 21:09:36
in 2010 markeloff was top1.

Neo was top7 or top8 and GTR was top2.
2012-01-17 21:24:04
But mark is top 2 in Na`Vi
expect.....
2012-01-17 21:14:21
Mark is top1 in Na`Vi since Na`Vi won 1st event.
2012-01-17 21:22:14
+1... markeloff is super amazing CARRY player. He is amazing with all weapons. It is pretty sick.
2012-01-17 21:23:34
1.markeloff or Get_RiGhT


3.probably Neo. but I think he doesn't deserves this.
2012-01-17 21:22:44
I think Gtr was worse than markeloff. Gtr was great especially vs low teams I think, vs strong teams he was average, but markeloff was BEAST vs all top teams. Especially markeloff_vs_SK last demo. That was:

de_markeloff - WON
de_markeloff - WON
de_markeloff(if needed) :)
2012-01-17 21:26:11
Markeloff did so much damage in 2011, I think he will be 1st.


1.markeloff
2.GTR
3.neo <3 fanboys
2012-01-17 21:24:54
I'm sure that Tgwri1s will put Neo next.
2012-01-17 21:26:37
3.Neo
2012-01-17 21:28:50
Nice, neo next
2012-01-17 21:30:42
Next will be NEO, sad but true :>
2012-01-17 21:32:00
markeloff (1)
GeT_RiGhT (2)
Neo (3)


simple. :)
2012-01-17 21:33:23
Markeloff will be 1rst for sure, but I hope Neo can be 2nd!


1.markeloff
2.NEO
3.GTR


NEO > GTRR
2012-01-17 21:34:44
Don't think so, I think GTR > NEO..


1] markeloN
2] gtr
3] neo
2012-01-17 21:35:24
neo 1.
what is trace doing here? trace lower
2012-01-17 21:37:23
Neo - 3.
2012-01-17 21:39:01
1.markeloff
2.Gtr
3.neo
2012-01-17 21:39:17
really great player!
And I hope that markeloff gets i 1º place!
2012-01-17 21:39:57
I'm sure that markeloff will be 1st too. All and Tgwri1s(too) have watched how amazing markeloff was, in every game, I would say. Especially vs TOP of the TOP teams.


Post edited 2012-01-17 21:48:40
2012-01-17 21:48:19
<3 mTw
2012-01-17 21:41:26
I would change f0rest and trace positions considering that trace didn't played all the entire year on top level (with a team)
2012-01-17 21:43:37
Neo wasn't so good this year, just some fanboy-votings.


1.markeloff
2.gtr
3.neo
2012-01-17 21:47:14
moderator deleted my message, which i wrote yesterday as a comment to the main article.
i expected, that Martin will will be chosen for 4th place. so, i think i know who will be next :D

Post edited 2012-01-17 22:08:42
2012-01-17 22:02:25
by: zy-
#600
#3 markeloff
2012-01-17 22:04:07
#3 markeloff
#2 Neo
#1 GeT_RiGhT
2012-01-17 22:44:43
ha! where are those retarded people saying trace would be out of the ranking ?
2012-01-18 00:02:49
<3 trace
2012-01-18 00:07:07
deserved!
2012-01-18 04:24:14
still the best
2012-01-18 10:43:57
+1
2012-01-18 13:58:14
+1
2012-01-19 01:59:14
PRETTY GOOD, BUT I THOUGHT HE WILL BE 3rd :(

Post edited 2012-01-18 13:59:23
2012-01-18 13:58:03
HERE WE GO =) DESERVED
2012-01-18 21:00:19
1-neo
2-gtr
2012-01-19 00:46:13
1 - neo
2 - GeT_RiGhT

Post edited 2012-01-19 02:09:27
2012-01-19 02:01:40
-zonic,+trace :D

mouz:
gob b roman trace karrigan zonixx
2012-01-19 02:04:23
#4 with a declining team, 4 sk players in top 5 this year?
2012-02-01 05:46:47
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