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ClanBase bans coloN
By: Nix0n
Time: 2012-02-13 20:27
Game: Counter-Strike 1.6

The ClanBase NationsCup admin team has issued a 12-month ban to Denmark's Morten "coloN" Johansen, after coming to the conclusion that he used wallhack in the match against Norway.

Following Denmark's 16-14 victory against Norway in the opening match of the season, Norway filed a complaint stating that Morten "coloN" Johansen had cheated in the match.

It has been 14 days since the match was played and today the admin team issued a ban to Johansen, excluding him for 12 months in all ClanBase activities. The admin team has reviewed Johansen's POV demo and came to the conclusion that he had used wallhack in the match.


coloN receives a 12-month ban from ClanBase

With Johansen's ban follows a red card to Denmark, which results in a forfeit loss in the match against Norway.

ClanBase's statement also touches upon the accusations made against Austria's Rainer "maKz" Hofmann-Wellenhof, the admin team has after reviewing the case come to the conclusion that he did not cheat in the qualifying match against Bosnia and Herzegovina.

Tags: coloN, Denmark

Wow
2012-02-13 20:27:23
for those who think colon doesnt use wh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh1EfnOJ2tE#t=2m30s

watch for 10 seconds and the conclusion should be clear
2012-02-13 21:00:08
the only thing i saw on there that was suspicious at all was maybe the scout hs on upper when they were stacked. it wasn't a really good video, tbh. if you want to prove they WH, show the clip with AND without WH. don't just show it with WH.
2012-02-13 21:22:07
imo the most suspicious thing is 2:30 - 2:40, in each case you can say that he just predicted what enemy is planning to do but this one - moving your cursor to the right exactly when enemy behind train is doing the same, it's just impossible that he predicted something like this
2012-02-13 21:27:20
But again, in that clip, there's no shot of it without WH being used. And from watching it more, I see that the T's body did show on his right on the train, so him moving the cursor there is no sign of WH imo. Now before that shot, at 2:15-2:20, I can see how people can see that being WH, but he did not move his crosshair at first, he moved his body, and fell off the train, and readjusted the crosshair accordingly before getting back on the train. This is all circumstantial evidence at best. Innocent until PROVEN guilty is how I make my decisions, and imo, he hasn't been proven guilty.

Post edited 2012-02-13 21:55:19
2012-02-13 21:53:30
ok, in this video it is not so clear (imo it IS, but your opinion is different), but the result is that the admins had a demo and they know the true. You can be takling about that all night but his ban will never disappear.
2012-02-14 00:35:16
The fact that it took the admins 14 days of watching one demo to determine if someone was cheating is enough doubt imo to overturn this. It's not like CB is that big anymore (or ever was), so it's not really a "huge ban" that's going to affect him that much.
2012-02-14 02:07:38
true that!
2012-02-13 21:57:57
Men, they should analyze again that video, degress is right.

+1
but it wass still suspicious
2012-02-13 22:36:54
agree.
2012-02-13 21:52:42
he is following people threw the wall its not hard to tell
2012-02-14 00:31:20
Admins watched his POV demo so they saw it without WH or some videos.
2012-02-14 11:28:17
6-9-10 100% wh
2012-02-13 21:56:04
+1
2012-02-13 23:09:29
+1
2012-02-14 01:07:24
watching demo isn't 100% reliability because you're not on vocal with his mates, you dont have his habits of thinking/playing, ...

i watched his video and i can give you some examples
- when he scopes the popdog train, it wasn't a premove i clearly see a leg on the right
- he stoped and didn't rush yard : duh, sure why not, he can change his mind/tactics you know
- upper ramp inner yard : he checks the one man height first and then he noticed something one the higher spot, if you look closely you'll see a little black line it's the front part of the awp
- the last action : he waits because he was waiting for his mates to go inner, he moves only after a kill was done

im sure i can explain more scenes but im lazy so i hope you'll see my point and stop acting like sheeps, use your brain and be more objective
2012-02-14 03:44:36
Yes but why f0rest, NEO or markeloff don't have such a strange habits/thinking, they can teach this shitty little cheater to hold a mouse.
2012-02-14 11:31:38
you trust these guys now because of their achievements but im pretty sure that people called them hackers throughout their careers.
2012-02-14 18:16:36
still doesn´t explain why neo, forest etc don´t do strange movements like colon does.
2012-02-16 10:24:56
u are noob
2012-02-14 12:10:53
"objective" ? How long have you been playing counter-strike? Doesn't seem too long.. This is hacks, if you can't see it. Quit cs, because you would've failed as admin.
2012-02-16 08:19:09
2:44 look at hes health.....its 0 .....how? armor 98?
2012-02-20 20:36:24
he even looks like a cunt
2012-02-14 00:30:28
hahaha ";] agree
2012-02-14 00:44:21
hahahaha, good point
2012-02-14 14:17:14
lol
2012-02-13 20:27:29
xd
2012-02-13 20:27:43
haha n1 coloN =D
2012-02-13 20:27:56
n1 coloN? n1 CHLENIX
2012-02-13 20:39:00
you dont know the meaning of the word ironic
2012-02-13 20:41:01
coloNix
2012-02-13 20:46:51
fucking cheaters
2012-02-13 20:27:59
shocking
2012-02-13 20:28:01
shocking = deserved ?!
2012-02-13 22:45:53
Dunno. I have no opinion whether he cheated or not
2012-02-14 06:54:31
no, shocking = shocking, deserved = deserved, shocking =/= deserved
2012-02-15 10:58:08
ohh yo
2012-02-13 20:28:03
nice
2012-02-13 20:28:03
=)))))))))))))))))))))))))
2012-02-13 20:28:04
This is stupid.
2012-02-13 20:28:10
that is stupid to use cheats
2012-02-13 21:01:20
Where is the prove?
2012-02-13 23:34:45
proof*
2012-02-14 00:00:57
I know, it was a mistake.
2012-02-14 01:59:17
doNkeee.
2012-02-14 18:33:44
Dude are you blind it's obvious on BUSTED movie that he cheated
2012-02-14 12:33:45
No?
He has played for 13 years now, and has always got to know that he plays a very unique gamestyle.
Thats so much not "busted" because of that movie.
2012-02-14 14:37:26
he played 13 years and during that time he has gained nothing. Shame. And while he used cheats.
2012-02-14 15:17:32
He has not used any kind of cheat.
2012-02-14 16:31:06
do you know him personally?
2012-02-14 19:05:38
Nope, but I've looked his gameplay both online and on LAN.

Maybe he doensn't get the same score, but he play the same unique gamestyle.
2012-02-14 21:13:55
okay. want see him on lan
2012-02-14 21:23:05
do that :)
2012-02-15 01:23:40
It's kinda funny a danish guy trying to back him up. Yes people got their own gamestyle, but when that 'gameplay' is hacking, you can see it.
2012-02-16 08:22:12
okay.
2012-02-16 19:38:11
Yes that's why we didn't hear for him, and we heared for noobs like f0rest,neo,markeloff etc
2012-02-14 18:19:19
:D:D
2012-02-13 20:28:13
deserve
2012-02-13 20:28:20
chlenix off
2012-02-13 20:28:21
12 months only?
2012-02-13 20:28:24
It should be 24 months at least imo.
2012-02-13 20:35:18
at least!
2012-02-13 20:38:03
He wasn't playing CB anyway, except NC i suppose. Next year he will compete in Nations Cup again so he probably gives a shit about penalty like this.
2012-02-13 20:42:05
it should be permanent imo..once a cheater always a cheater
2012-02-13 22:11:48
Thats not true. :)
2012-02-13 22:27:37
As far as I know Delpan used cheats too,then it means... once a cheater,always a cheater!? :)))
2012-02-13 22:42:13
I dont care if his nickname is f0rest or Delpan..cheater is a cheater and he is being shame to his country and this game :)
2012-02-14 12:14:03
PERMANENT.
2012-02-13 22:29:03
after 12m CS will be death
2012-02-13 22:45:05
dead*
2012-02-14 00:02:31
OMG you f***ing idiot, stop correction people all the time, it's really annoying. It's fine that you're from Great Britain, and are very good at english, but there might be people in here from several other countries, that aren't as good as you in English.

So stop correction, it's really fuck'd on a forum like this.
2012-02-14 16:33:10
correcting*

I do it not to annoy people but point out their mistakes that can be improved in future.. ;)
2012-02-14 16:35:20
no, because you know my "correction" was ment like "correcting".

you're doing it because you're an asshole.
2012-02-14 16:47:59
I think I just found a mind-reader guys! He can read from my mind!
2012-02-14 16:59:22
And I know I found an asshole.
2012-02-14 18:03:45
It's actually called "Your a ass"
2012-02-16 08:23:51
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Post edited 2012-02-16 09:50:52
2012-02-16 09:50:23
My sentence is correct, so shut up.
2012-02-16 19:39:12
+1000's
2012-02-16 23:50:39
LOLLLLLLL
EPIC NIEL NUMBRE 2º
2012-02-13 20:28:25
WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :D
2012-02-13 20:28:34
LOL @ EVERYONE WHO SAID HE DIDN'T CHEAT
2012-02-13 20:28:41
Just because one person (coincidentially the cb admin) thinks he cheated, does not prove he actually cheated. Even though I think he cheated (often) as well, it's still no proof.
2012-02-13 20:36:56
It has been 14 days since the match was played and today the admin team issued a ban to Johansen, excluding him for 12 months in all ClanBase activities.

U probably should read the article first. It's not just one person.

Post edited 2012-02-13 20:51:23
2012-02-13 20:50:53
You are right, but it is still no proof.

Post edited 2012-02-13 20:54:31
2012-02-13 20:54:20
Yeah, it's kinda shaky statement, but still many people think that he cheated. I think it's the right decision to ban him.
2012-02-13 20:55:46
it's the righ choice to ban him because "many people think that he cheated"?
Funny way of thinking..
2012-02-13 22:19:51
I did NOT say that, lol) I just stated the fact that a lot of people think that he cheated. I think that it's the right decision cause of my own thoughts of him. Sorry if you got confused by this one.

Post edited 2012-02-13 22:42:16
2012-02-13 22:35:52
You do know how the legal system works in this world right? Number of evidences are presented to a court with a jury and the jury votes on what they think should be done.
2012-02-14 03:23:09
I don't think you can turn it this way.

If the question is if he has cheated or not, the matter is how do you choose your opinion. Are you going to choose because the biggest part of players think he has cheated or are you going to choose regarding others criterias (for example watching yourself the demo with or without wh)?
The same goes in court, members of the jury are supposed to judge the suspect according the evidences that are shown to them and not according to what the others think.
But, of course, in reality it often happens the other way around.
2012-02-15 07:32:06
Yeah, they obviously banned him without proof. OMG ...
2012-02-13 21:00:04
They did. They only banned him because his actions were too suspicious.
2012-02-13 21:12:42
There is nothing proof, men they shoud re-analyze the video. AGain and again till be 100prcent SHO
2012-02-13 22:38:53
you found person covered in blood in locked room with dead body of person which he hated and you tell us there is no proof he did, because we don't have record of act of murder on camera?
what is proof of cheating for you? screenshot with wh? you think cheaters gonna provide you screenshots of their wh on?
2012-02-13 21:31:21
Indeed, screenshots or some anti-cheat actually detecting the cheats on his computer.
2012-02-13 21:43:10
ofc, anticheats are detecting all cheats in the world (especially RING0 design cheats) and cheaters upload screens with them cheating after every match - hello! there is reality knocking to your head!
2012-02-13 21:57:10
+1.

Ruban M. is blind...
2012-02-13 22:44:13
Let me clarify this. I'm not saying that players should never be banned when there is no actual proof (like screenshots, Anti-Cheat,...) I am just questionning the ethical aspect of this matter. In this case, it is rather obvious that coloN is a blatant cheater so I think that he deserved this particular ban. However, nobody can be entirely sure that coloN used cheats. Just imagine that it would happen to you if you didn't cheat. I mean, it is not impossible.
2012-02-13 23:28:23
You just DONT get his point :/
2012-02-13 23:49:39
Just because CB claims he cheated doesn't mean he actually did it.

And no, I don't support coloN.
2012-02-13 20:38:08
the fact that 1000s of people came here after the match to talk about how fishy his play was...

and the fact that the cb admin team agrees. it took 14 days to review the demo it obviously wasn't just one admin who looked at it.

2012-02-13 20:47:09
Well, it's nothing new his play style is fishy. It's always been. When you have played the game for so many years, it's pretty easy to read most situations, even though some of it is fishy...

The fact that the CB team agrees shows nothing. As many already wrote, they're all amateurs.
2012-02-13 20:51:06
lol "when you have played the game for so many years"......so how come forest,neo,get_right, markeloff and all the real pros dont have fishy playstyles...ur comment makes no sense whatsoever.
2012-02-13 20:56:35
I can't tell you why? I guess they don't think about the current game situation as much as coloN does.

How would I know... i only know it from my own experience.
2012-02-13 20:58:59
well you dont have enough experience obviously...they dont think as much about the current game situation as much as colon does? i think they think about things 100xs more than colon does, thats why they are 100xs better than colon. Plus colon doesnt have to think about the current situation bc he can see thru walls =)
2012-02-13 21:10:06
W/e dude. We are not going to agree on this.
2012-02-13 21:16:25
thats fine, but i hope we can agree that ur first statement about him being fishy bc he played for so many years is completely false...
2012-02-13 21:26:35
ok, placeing crosshair in the middle of the wall (obviously when enemy is behind it) is experience for you?
aiming 2m higher than normal in cause of that one in 100000000 times someone is making a tower is experience?
2012-02-13 21:35:13
you are wrong. Clanbase its the old... services. With huge experience. He was use wh in 100% on this match
2012-02-14 00:47:01
So it makes it right, if more people looked at it? Hokay.
2012-02-13 20:52:13
The more wood, the bigger there fire.
2012-02-13 21:09:34
Funny that you are defending coloN, and minet is accusing you of cheating on xplayn.com xD
2012-02-14 00:13:54
I don't know if I am defending him. Tbh I don't know if he cheated or not, but I don't believe he deserves a ban when nothing in for sure. And yes, we have known each other for quite some time, minet and I. He has always hated me because he thought I was cheating against him.
2012-02-14 00:18:01
admin is just noob ^^
2012-02-14 18:07:10
It didnt made anything more obvious or clear..

He hasnt cheated!
2012-02-13 23:59:56
sick decision
2012-02-13 20:28:44
gg man
2012-02-13 20:28:49
title for coloN fans clanbase-bans-colon

Post edited 2012-02-13 20:29:08
2012-02-13 20:28:49
Totally deserved!
2012-02-13 20:29:31
I'm glad that the 'experts' at clanbase made this decision, the fate of humanity was in their hands!
2012-02-13 20:29:31
+1
2012-02-13 20:31:16
haha , cool story bro )
2012-02-13 20:32:53
why is people nowadays nicked chlenix whats special with that name?
2012-02-13 20:46:01
maybe because they like clenix so much that they wanted to suck it :D
2012-02-13 21:01:30
ha ha ...
2012-02-13 21:04:00
1.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtaLMvRlLqU [but it's in russian]
2. chlen = DICK
2012-02-13 21:03:32
chlenix is so good
2012-02-13 22:23:08
ahahah :DDDDDDd
2012-02-14 15:17:32
gee gee
2012-02-13 20:29:49
shame ....
2012-02-13 20:29:55
I STILL SAY HE DIDN'T CHEAT
2012-02-13 20:29:56
then you are retard like him
2012-02-13 22:12:57
no im not, you ppl call him cheater just because one random vid from a non skilled argentinian
2012-02-13 22:41:39
What a skill from argentinian have with video in which colon cheated ? If you say that he didnt cheat you are either blind or you didnt played this game 3 times in your life
2012-02-14 12:37:23
+1
2012-02-14 00:00:18
i like turtles
2012-02-14 00:12:37
lol...
2012-02-15 15:08:45
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2012-02-13 20:29:59
byebye ^^
2012-02-13 20:30:12
I know what "colon did not cheat"-guys gonna say now: "So what? some dumb admin said hes cheating. wow. still no proof" xDD.... noobs!
2012-02-13 20:30:18
Bad admins if they thought that he had cheated
2012-02-13 20:30:19
=))
Nais
2012-02-13 20:30:34
wow there ain't no proof coming from an anticheat software telling that he cheated, maybe colon was just in a super-mood and played really well..
that's not deserved and i blame the clanbase admins for that choice
2012-02-13 20:30:38
Every anti-cheat tool in the world can be bypassed actually.
2012-02-13 20:35:36
anyway, they can't judge by watching only one POV demo of him, those clanbase admin guys have no experience regarding professional gaming...
2012-02-13 20:42:45
It's how it's done actually for the past 10 years. And you are wrong about admins, as I know most of them, and some are in this game for more than 10 years, and have handled more hundreds of cases like this.
2012-02-13 20:47:22
he played very well yesterday too, he was close to be the man of the match against ESC, i still think this is an unfair ban due to a lack of evidence, no matter what those clanbase-noob-admins are saying
2012-02-13 20:58:51
He was cheating yesterday also, but not so blatantly.
2012-02-13 21:11:29
ESL banned zaider and moxxi with evidence in them joking in chat on facebook, so...I'd say that you are too young to judge on someone.
2012-02-13 21:12:33
i won't start a flaming war with you... i'm just saying, this ban seems pretty unfair to me
2012-02-13 21:18:37
you forgot some details :
- that guy played with zaider and moxxi
- he is called a cheater since months !
- 80% of the community say he actually cheat
- his playing style is really weird,
- nobody does reflexion concerning trace, moddii, GTR, forest, neo, taz markellof, sixer... etc.. playing style. They look "normal" compared to ColoN
- I regulary cheat, and i can tell you : he is a cheater ! (i don't blame him, it's just a fact)
2012-02-13 21:25:35
alright then just wait to see how he performs during a lan and then we'll be able to judge his online high-performances.
2012-02-13 21:37:51
i think he will perform well, as diodel and delpan :)
2012-02-13 21:41:38
well i hope he'll go as far as they did at least :p
2012-02-13 21:47:35
and when is he going to a big lan??? he has been playing for many years now and still he doesn't attend to something big.
rare hu?
2012-02-13 22:49:50
wrong
2012-02-14 13:14:23
gl & hf with esl wire
2012-02-13 21:27:48
LOL? :) Talk to someone from inside ESL. I can tell you for sure, it can EASILY be bypassed.
2012-02-13 21:33:07
not sure if trolling
2012-02-15 16:29:34
Trolling? You really think that anticheat cannot be bypassed? Then you must be really young.
2012-02-15 19:40:56
Esl wire is the best anticheat there is. If it is that easy to bypass, why haven't organner.pl bypassed it?
2012-02-16 19:50:50
organner.pl ? :) It's the best anticheat, according to ESL guys. I can assure you that's wrong.
2012-02-16 20:36:24
Of course every anti cheat can be bypassed. Point is that ESL wire is pretty much the only anti cheat (Together with ESEA) that has effectively banned public cheats from their games. When a new public cheat shows up, they don't even have update their client in order to detect it. They can just stream a new module to detect it. Also, at least ESL Wire pokes at ring0 in order to detect the previously undetectable cheats. In comparison to EAC and other anti cheats ESL Wire is a different caliber of anti cheat.


2012-02-19 20:59:18
coloN<33333. =[
2012-02-13 20:30:46
fans crying in 3, 2 ..
2012-02-13 20:30:46
what fans?^^
2012-02-14 01:27:02
haha... Just because people don't agree with CB doesn't mean people are fans or even crying. I can't see anything wrong with he's POV.
2012-02-14 08:43:48
I don't think he cheated..
2012-02-13 20:30:50
Only the blind rats could not see the OBVIOUS wh, nothing has been more obvious than his cheating lol
2012-02-13 20:30:57
Don't forget that Clanbase are amateurs :).
They have banned many players who never used cheats in the past.
2012-02-13 20:31:28
they are just stupid... :)
2012-02-13 20:35:44
Aye
2012-02-13 20:40:02
cheaters must die !
2012-02-13 20:31:35
like a boss
2012-02-13 20:31:43
a life time it should be enough ...
2012-02-13 20:31:59
Wrong decision, still no accurate proof, imo.
2012-02-13 20:32:07
I agree.
2012-02-13 20:32:45
Is colon payin' u for each "defending-comment"?
2012-02-13 20:33:26
Let me retort by asking you if Norway is paying you for each "accusing-comment"? I am entitled to my opinion and it is that I don't find accurate proof, in his demo.
2012-02-13 20:35:31
watch the demo ..
2012-02-13 20:41:39
Would recommend you reading #78 again.
2012-02-13 20:42:40
u r blind man.
2012-02-13 21:38:24
Thank you, I respect your opinion too.
2012-02-13 21:45:52
you don't respect mine opinion if you don't review your own statements. do you have ANY arguments in this disscusion? because on one side we have video with bunch of cheating proofs and on the other side we have you saying "everything is possible in life - maybe he wasn't cheating", well guess what - HE WAS, with 99,8% of probability.
2012-02-13 21:50:58
I will not write here, what has been written by others before me, I would rather refer to the blog, where possible explanations are given to the situations in the demo. I am sure you know of which I speak.

You say there are proof; where are the proof that prove, without any doubt, that it HAD to be cheat?

Post edited 2012-02-13 21:59:57
2012-02-13 21:53:47
is there ANYTHING in the world, that you can say without any doubt? in this case we have high probability bordering on certainty.
2012-02-13 22:00:05
Caught on client is proof for me, as well as too many situations that can't be explained. I am entitled to my opinion, just as much as you, difference is that you portray your opinion as absolute.

As I have stated earlier, I don't believe there is enough evidence to say that he cheated and I therefore find the CB decision to be wrong. That you find it otherwise is a matter of subjective opinion, just as the CB decision. I respect the decision, but I find it wrong.

Post edited 2012-02-13 22:14:22
2012-02-13 22:06:04
That video is not a "bunch of cheating proofs". Those are just suspicious scenes. Proof would be if eac would ban him. However admin made the decision. Same thing is in real life with courts. You can be found guilty even if u didn't realy commit the crime.
2012-02-13 22:49:08
Yes in your country you will be convicted without any evidence, but not in my country :D

fact.

Post edited 2012-02-13 23:37:27
2012-02-13 23:37:08
Seriously? hehe.

Post edited 2012-02-13 23:57:37
2012-02-13 23:57:21
wake up, its time to enter the real world.



fact.
2012-02-14 16:02:19
Well... Putin is cheating(fact!), an coloN is not cheating(bad bad evidence, fact!)

It's the real world :)
2012-02-24 16:26:28
He is right. There is still no proof that he actually cheated. That makes it a big decision anyway by that admin. I think he cheated too though.
2012-02-13 20:38:51
colon log in pls
2012-02-13 20:42:20
Yes, like the other accounts that don't find enough proof. I must be a busy man.
2012-02-13 20:46:07
+1
I can't prove that he wasn't cheating, but there is absolutely no proof in that video/demo. People saying otherwise are the same old loud newbies.
2012-02-13 21:13:07
well afaik you get accused quite a lot yourself
2012-02-13 22:26:37
I sure do.
2012-02-13 23:24:45
so I assume everyone accusing you are the same old loud newbies too then?
2012-02-13 23:28:19
Not so much those who're accusing me. Better say those who're following me and think they know that I am cheating.
2012-02-13 23:42:41
I've played since 1999, have worked as an admin, have watched demos of tens if not hundreds of supposed cheaters.

And I think this clown was obviously cheating.

Sure, he didn't get busted by the AC. But since when has bypassing an anticheat become some sort of an accomplishment? In real life, if you're standing next to a murder victim, with their blood all over you and the murder weapon in your hand, you're going to prison for murder. It's not 100% proof that you did it, but the evidence is against you. Same thing here. Looking at the video objectively (something you Danes seem to lack, judging from this thread) it's clear that he's cheating. Evidence is clearly against the poor bastard. Everyone but scrubs and danes think so.
2012-02-14 21:25:16
Thanks for you comment. Honestly I have no relation to colon nor looking at it differently because he is Danish. Sure there might be alot of his friends/fanboys in here, but I think I am fairly good at looking things objectively. I totally agree that his ways of playing seems odd, but definitely not enough to count as a valid evidence. I have seen way too many of these cases (not this highly exposed though) where players turn into some of the best players in the world. I was for one called stupid by many when I thought karrigan wasn't cheating back in the days. Clearly my previous statement wasn't pointet towards guys like you. All respect for your opinion about this case - I simply do not agree, and I do think that there are tons of ignorants agreeing with the ban, same ignorants whining about everything, all the time. They might be right this time though. (EDIT: My previous was statement was of course way too generalizing)

Post edited 2012-02-14 22:05:53
2012-02-14 22:02:50
No proof? Yeah.. good luck with that, over 90% of the admins in the world would say that is cheating on his demo.
2012-02-16 08:35:08
missing: proof
interesting how everyone is "hahaha cheater caught! n1 clanbase" but if cb banned neo you would all be "wtf clanbase idiots, we want prooof!".
still waiting for the video, if there isnt any cb officialy sux for me
2012-02-13 20:32:23
nothing unusual :)
2012-02-13 20:57:28
cool but CB should explain it with this movie, i never said he didnt cheat. and yes, he did cheat in that match
2012-02-13 20:58:25
should they? why? if they did this would look like they are makeing disscusion about it, not just decision.
2012-02-13 21:40:40
so if they banned you, you wouldnt want to know why? (which rounds they think you cheated?) lolish, i dont really trust guys who watch demos
2012-02-13 21:43:30
player always know if he cheated or not, so why would he wanted to know why? he can always protest and then they should provide him proofs, but only him.
2012-02-13 21:54:55
ok, but they didnt i guess
2012-02-13 22:14:02
u re wrong there is a demo
2012-02-13 20:42:12
demo is not a proof o_O
2012-02-13 20:48:55
it is only if you have knowledge about detecting cheaters
2012-02-13 20:57:41
you need to have WH installed, i dont have it (saw the movie though, someone linked it, yes he cheated)
2012-02-13 20:59:07
you can use HLAE - it's not a regular illegal cheat, it's a tool (ofc if you don't connect a server with it on)
2012-02-13 21:42:31
tnx for info but its not really my job to catch cheaters, would if i wanted to (have the joy) but i dont :P
and i was only saying that you need proof cuz there are many stupid kids here who think everyone cheats
2012-02-13 21:45:33
cb officially sux already
2012-02-13 20:51:37
hahaha cheater caught! n1 clanbase
2012-02-13 23:40:17
his play was strange enough to cause a HUGE amount of ppl on these forums to question whether or not it was legit

that plus an admins decision....not really a question anymore
2012-02-13 20:32:34
so if there was new neo, ofc he would be suspicious to most of hltv community (cuz lets face it, most of hltv users are idiots when deciding if someone cheats) and then cb would ban him (everyone has suspicious matches when you watch them)...not really a question anymore right?

what a fail thinking
2012-02-13 20:36:29
you need to read your comment again. you're fucking retarded bro.


kid obviously cheats, and no, i dont think so just because of what ppl said here on the forums. watch the video, if you can't tell he's walling you should uninstall CS
2012-02-13 20:48:21
i never watched any "suspicious" videos, just want a proof from cb.
link to video plz (edit: no need to, saw it, he cheats)

Post edited 2012-02-13 20:59:24
2012-02-13 20:50:09
I've never seen NEO doing something as stupid and amateur-ish as coloN.
2012-02-13 21:15:22
didnt see the movie vs norwegians when i wrote this but i believe that if you watched all of his demos with WH on, there would be some really suspicious rounds (same goes for other pro players).
2012-02-13 21:41:29
What a fucking logic!
2012-02-13 21:14:09
this is awkward mate!
2012-02-13 20:32:35
obviously he cheated, only a retarted cant see that

Post edited 2012-02-13 20:33:26
2012-02-13 20:32:41
It's the other way around, sorry.
2012-02-13 21:15:04
Obviously he retarded, only a cheater can't see that.

Like this?
2012-02-13 22:07:21
haha +1
2012-02-13 22:13:31
shame !
2012-02-13 20:33:00
Good news.
2012-02-13 20:33:04
cheater must die
2012-02-13 20:33:12
hahahahhaaha
2012-02-13 20:33:16
lol , gtfo xD , and i think zonic and co. will kick his ass :P
2012-02-13 20:33:24
i dont know if hes cheating , but some admins are really idiots :)
2012-02-13 20:33:26
truestory
2012-02-13 20:33:28
+1 :D
2012-02-13 20:33:48
i LOLD bb colon. sry for u.
2012-02-13 20:33:32
How embarrassing^^
2012-02-13 20:33:41
I don't see how?
2012-02-13 21:15:30
then you are blind...
2012-02-13 21:30:53
No I am not. I don't see how it can be embarrassing to be banned from CB when they clearly have no evidence what so ever. I doubt nothing will change for him. If he knows he ins't cheating, it can't possibly be embarrassing, can it?
2012-02-13 21:36:17
he cheated, nuff said
2012-02-13 21:41:33
You had no more arguments, oh well..
2012-02-13 21:43:17
Hi colon, why are you using a fake-account to back yourself up? The demo is obvious, please re-sign and stop embarrassing yourself.
2012-02-16 08:36:56
Hi you one hater, why are you using so many fake-accounts to back your theory up? The demo is obviously not evidence enough, please re-sign and stop embarrassing yourself.
2012-02-16 23:04:26
Demo not enough? What have you been smoking? That's like saying a video tape isn't proof enough.
2012-02-21 08:24:33
OBVIOUS CHEATER DOWN, finally, this world is turning into madneess with all those blind defending noobs
2012-02-13 20:33:46
I like this comment.
2012-02-14 00:09:34
I think Denmark now hates him. :D
2012-02-13 20:33:52
Nope, stupid Danish kids still don't want to believe that he used WallHack.
2012-02-13 21:37:01
the Danish kids are not alone.
2012-02-14 17:29:50
if this ban for a conclusion, nice admins
2012-02-13 20:33:56
Captain coloN
2012-02-13 20:33:58
no why? very skilled player
2012-02-13 20:34:07
fail decision
anyway CNB isn't important at all^_^
2012-02-13 20:34:08
yeah but his reputation is even more fucked up now...i doubt his countrymen will even want to play with him in any event
2012-02-13 20:36:20
You are so wrong.
2012-02-13 20:44:34
http://xplayn.com/21517
Google translate.
Most of them are defending him.
2012-02-13 21:02:10
My Danish isn't the best, but I believe it was kind of 50/50. Furthermore, some talked about how coloN has been a notorious cheater in the past and that he's been busted several times. One guy also talked about a vt video showing his interest in cheats.

Could any Dane confirm this and maybe link the vt video?
2012-02-13 22:04:22
So many great Danish players have been accused, and probably by alot of minds busted aswell. Karrigan and friis are two of those. When Karrigan released his first movie every god damn soul KNEW he was cheating (Just like everybody KNOW colon is cheating), now he is playing for one of the best teams in the world..
2012-02-13 21:18:53
r u blind man?
2012-02-13 21:47:06
That statement makes no sense, polish fanboy...
2012-02-13 23:25:02
a) polish fanboy of who?
b) does nationality of an author is your main way to evaluate posts?
c) this is not a statemen - this is question - hint: all questions have "?" (question mark) at the end of them.
2012-02-14 06:11:49
Post d video dude :P
2012-02-17 00:09:04
Where are the guys that said he did not cheat and came up with critical analysis of every move he did?
2012-02-13 20:34:22
colon legend kkkkkkk :/
2012-02-13 20:34:32
Only coloN knows for certain if he did cheat.
2012-02-13 20:34:37
Well it finally happened. I would ban him for longer than 12 months house. Sorry Friis from Denmark and the other team in pushing to not play.
2012-02-13 20:35:00
cool! coloN = 0
2012-02-13 20:35:01
nice
2012-02-13 20:35:36
zaider, moxxi, coloN - which danish player next ?

Anyway how old is he ?

Post edited 2012-02-13 20:37:08
2012-02-13 20:36:03
Remember, colon is not busted - he is simply banned on CB, while zaider and moxxi were actually busted and banned from any danish turnament.
2012-02-13 21:20:40
Busted by chat?
2012-02-14 12:09:52
no. by ESL wire, Custodia and VOIPlay.
2012-02-14 13:19:04
"In an interview with XplayN.com he explains that he has had a "silent defuse" script in his cstrike for more than a year, but other than that has no clue why he was banned."

"As for Janusz "Snax" Pogorzelski, not a whole lot of information is available."

Scripts should be punished but not with bans like cheaters do. As for Snax...there are no infos available or what? I think ESL Wire is the best AC at the moment, but it has a lot of mistakes, and I know it. ESL insiders said that it's probably ESL's biggest fail by far.
2012-02-14 14:12:25
look at his face he is cheater no doubt.
2012-02-13 20:36:28
LOL
2012-02-13 21:24:46
to be honest, I think we should respect their decision.

I see a lot of people don't find this fair at all and think it's wrong, but they only have 2 opinions, and if they didn't ban him, we would see tons of people flame the decision too.

2012-02-13 20:36:45
Noob admin, clanbase will die.
2012-02-13 20:37:02
lold at u.

Post edited 2012-02-13 20:40:13
2012-02-13 20:40:04
haha die because of colon is banned?
2012-02-13 20:42:51
Top players are not very interested for this competition, these play for fun and admins takes decisions without asking feedback from top players.
2012-02-13 21:00:29
nvm.

Post edited 2012-02-13 22:10:22
2012-02-13 22:07:44
belege, go fuck yourself!
2012-02-14 13:54:19
?
2012-02-14 14:07:00
all the respect to colon, i would cheat too in his position! too bad he got caught, better luck next time :(
2012-02-13 20:37:50
Why would u cheat too in his position?
2012-02-13 20:40:19
because i can!
2012-02-13 20:50:12
+316876
2012-02-14 02:06:23
it's only based on admin opinion, and btw fuck clanbase, shitty competition anyway ^^

Post edited 2012-02-13 20:39:22
2012-02-13 20:37:56
HAHAHA

What an idiot. Deserved!
2012-02-13 20:38:23
+1
2012-02-13 20:39:07
deserved
2012-02-13 20:39:20
HAHAHAHAH noob
2012-02-13 20:39:47
haha lol
2012-02-13 20:39:56
deserved
2012-02-13 20:40:06
NICE ONE KID
2012-02-13 20:40:11
should be permanent
2012-02-13 20:40:29
He maybe used cheat, but as long as there is no actual proof, i think this is the wrong decision. Even though i think he used wallhack, still, wrong decision by CB admins.
2012-02-13 20:40:33
? so cheating is acceptable as long as you dont get caught? cool story brah.
2012-02-13 20:45:05
He didn't say that
2012-02-13 20:46:46
basically that is what he said.

anyone who knows about cs can tell colon was cheating based off his actions in the match. watch the video it's blatant as fuck
2012-02-13 20:50:09
he definitely implied it. if you think he used wallhack why do you think its the wrong decision? makes no fuckin sense. it definately clear there was some shady shit goin on there. ray charles could see that.
2012-02-13 20:55:29
Basically what I'm trying to say is even though he may have been used wallhack, you can't make decisions by watching the demo only. Ofcourse, it might tell you something, but looking at the, for example, GTR's demos, trace's or f0rest's demos when there in a mood for playing, you can easily say they had some kind of cheats, which is ofcourse wrong. Colon maybe had a good day, anti-cheat saw nothing, no actual proof as i stated in a previous post. So I think what CB admins did was a wrong thing to do. Hope you understand what I'm trying to say now.
2012-02-13 21:45:59
i knew what you were trying to say the whole time. my reading comprehension is pretty good, but it still makes no fuckin sense. and yeah your right if you watched any of the top players without sound and all that then you probably would think that they were hacking but you still wouldnt have seen half the stupid shit that colon did. and if people didnt use demos as a basis for banning the community would be flooded with hackers. VAC and EAC isn't gonna detect everything and there needs to be a logical rational middle ground. countless players and even whole teams(myg0t) were banned back in the day from CAL etc.. based on demos because they never would have gotten "proof" as you like to put it. i think they were justified in their decision. doesnt really matter anyways whats done is done. oh and, "who cares its just ClanBase anyways" pff. (last part wasnt directed at you)

Post edited 2012-02-14 07:20:16
2012-02-14 07:19:46
I was gonna explain it to you, but then i saw your flag and realised it's not worth it.
2012-02-13 20:50:06
says someone from serbia....LOL
2012-02-13 20:50:44
Hehe, at least we're not known as stupid nation all around the world, no hard feelings bro. Cheers. :-)
2012-02-13 20:52:14
ehh stereotypes
2012-02-13 21:03:52
Well.....
2012-02-14 00:00:43
i would love to read your attempt to enlighten me. note: #182
2012-02-13 21:03:59
more than expected
2012-02-13 20:40:42
JUSTICE for COLON!
2012-02-13 20:40:47
colon <3 vedimak :))
2012-02-13 20:40:47
no he is just very skillfull :)))) this is not fair, he has the ability to see thru walls thats it :))).
2012-02-13 20:41:05
deserved.
2012-02-13 20:41:06
not big problem for coloN. who cares clanbase? i bet we will see cs2 in 1 year :D
2012-02-13 20:41:35
for those who have questions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh1EfnOJ2tE



haha look at the scene 10
2012-02-13 20:41:35
see demo stupid guy. sorry nothing person, see demo.
You see that he saw town.

Post edited 2012-02-13 20:45:06
2012-02-13 20:43:44
do not want to see the truth because it is a stupid fan.
2012-02-13 20:54:44
are you fucking serious?
2012-02-13 20:54:10
yeah =(
2012-02-13 20:55:56
Retarded to ban him if it's all about the .avi that some little angry norwegian kid made after the loss.. come up with some real proofs before banning him.. oh god.
2012-02-13 20:41:42
what you mean? it doesnt matter if "an angry norwegian" or whoever did an avi of coloN cheating, the images are there, its impossible to deny that he cheated.
2012-02-13 20:44:23
Actually never mind, dont want to waste my time on this thread..

Post edited 2012-02-13 21:06:04
2012-02-13 21:04:36
actually it happens more often than you would expect.. if there is enough to put someone on trial its always up to the jury. and they voted guilty.
2012-02-13 21:07:53
LOL
2012-02-13 21:08:59
die fanboy
2012-02-13 20:45:40
What is your definition of fanboy?
2012-02-13 20:55:42
so just because the anti cheat didn't pickup proof means he's legit? get real. watch the demo, wallhacks were obvious
2012-02-13 20:52:35
its probably based on the demo lol.
2012-02-13 20:53:49
I'm sure you would say that he's cheating if you played against him.
2012-02-13 21:39:27
where are these geniuses like Mr.Predict now? you were doing like you are the most intelligent people on this planet and now you are quiet? xaxaxa!
2012-02-13 20:41:57
Nothing has changed, why would anybody hide?
2012-02-13 21:24:59
you are an idiot if you are still saying that he did not cheated.. and it is just useless to argue with a nobrainer.. ignor, bye!
2012-02-13 21:29:32
well,karrigan and friis were being accused on CB too,so?
2012-02-13 21:48:18
yeah well... atleast i didn't play the game i am the superman i can explain everything ^^
2012-02-13 21:53:09
it is all about access dude ;-) it is different when you come and say "i do not think that he cheated"... but no you guys have to be like "you all are idiots he did not cheated... and replaying to 40 comments...
2012-02-13 21:58:46
Couldn't care less... it's ClanBase!
2012-02-13 20:42:20
so what? wtf.
2012-02-13 20:42:25
gl hf
2012-02-13 20:42:31
HE IS IDIOT
2012-02-13 20:42:34
umri shval!
2012-02-13 20:42:51
expected
2012-02-13 20:43:17
coloN1337
2012-02-13 20:43:17
coloN always cheats!
2012-02-13 20:43:35
it should be 2 years like esl but its ok...
2012-02-13 20:43:35
COLON DNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2012-02-13 20:43:41
i hate cheaters :/ desrerved ban
2012-02-13 20:43:51
Good news.
2012-02-13 20:44:22
dont know about this, he is playing with great players like ArcadioN and co, there is some reason about it, probably ArcadioN seem him in LAN dunno :D:D:D
2012-02-13 20:44:23
or maybe arcadion cant find anyone better than colon
to play and agrees to see he killing top players like a machine even if he is cheating :D
2012-02-13 20:47:34
colon have bootcamped with zecer and wazorn and still played great
2012-02-13 20:49:41
yes he still can be a good player, im not saying that hes not. just watch the demo or the youtube video and if you have enough knowledge about the game you will be sure that he cheated too, simple as that
2012-02-13 20:55:45
watch a NEO, Delpan or f0rest POV, same shit, just random movements based on game experience

Post edited 2012-02-13 20:57:29
2012-02-13 20:57:15
not even close the same shit, i think you are a newbie in this game and cant see the huge difference
2012-02-13 20:58:59
hahahahaahahahahahaha STFU
2012-02-13 21:00:43
I love the part when you reply 2minutes later. Like you would've watched the demos. Just watch their and your own demos with wallhack and you will notice that it looks like youre cheating yourself. I will take my time later to make a reply about all the scenes in the clip and to prove that this clip is useless. And please come and flame me bro..
2012-02-13 23:40:56
im not here to flame anyone, Im just sure that he cheated and so are the admins of clanbase.
2012-02-14 16:17:56
maybe you can enligthen us.. bring to us your knowledge and therefore we would know 100% that he cheated.
Thanks in advance
2012-02-13 22:43:01
see? i think #169 is right
2012-02-13 20:52:22
like delpan, so much mystery and all know he cheatd online to play with big names before he become really good and famous
2012-02-13 20:55:25
DIE
2012-02-13 20:45:26
The thing is that CB does not have 100% proof and IF (even though it seems like he did cheat) the man did not cheat, this is a devastating decision for him. The burden of proof is on the ppl who made this decision, not on coloN (cool nick btw..)
2012-02-13 20:45:40
ahaha FAIL! xD
2012-02-13 20:46:23
coloN is on a quest to collect bans in all competitions.

Post edited 2012-02-13 20:46:48
2012-02-13 20:46:29
the truth is that he never cheated, just the wrong decision to ban him.
2012-02-13 20:46:37
HAHAHAHA OMG!
2012-02-13 20:46:42
haha
2012-02-13 20:46:44
HAHAHAHAHA
2012-02-13 20:47:45
Lol
2012-02-13 20:48:24
HAHAHAHAHA :D
2012-02-13 20:48:55
First half (CT):11-9
Second half (T):11-12
Total:22-21
Rating:1.07

Wall hack score ((= ahhaahaha
2012-02-13 20:49:05
+1 he is not cheater
admins clanbase stupid

Post edited 2012-02-13 20:51:41
2012-02-13 20:51:19
I am not saying he did hack, but its quite obvious that if he does hack he would do everything to hide it.
2012-02-13 20:56:05
ah, so if you are in colons posision, would you go around haxx everybody telling them you hack? or have a decent stats? and try to hide it, use your brain.
2012-02-13 22:07:56
Fuck coloN.
2012-02-13 20:49:22
OK
2012-02-13 20:49:44
xD
2012-02-13 20:49:52
cheaters, main tournament with low list of teams, a lot of retires, fewer "top" teams , what happening with cs 1.6 ???
2012-02-13 20:50:18
nice !!!! revenge
2012-02-13 20:50:27
hahahahahahha
2012-02-13 20:50:30
deserved
2012-02-13 20:50:41
ahah stupid colon
2012-02-13 20:50:45
you wrong guy
2012-02-13 20:57:48
die hacker!
2012-02-13 20:51:22
pretty sure makz looked like more of a cheater then colon
2012-02-13 20:51:47
+1
colon banned makz not pfff
colon not cheater
2012-02-13 20:55:27
h3h3h3
2012-02-13 20:51:57
compared to n0sferatus demos against Portugal and Italy he was clean lol,
2012-02-13 20:52:08
no proof noob admins, noob clanbase :)
2012-02-13 20:52:25
shocked
2012-02-13 20:52:26
loord about colon being banned: co za szmata xd

Post edited 2012-02-13 20:53:42
2012-02-13 20:53:26
Admins don't know a shit about CS... This guy didn't cheat. Look at his pov for god sake...
2012-02-13 20:53:36
you true
2012-02-13 20:54:19
They did, wich just proves these admins have no more knowledge of CS then most noobs and trolls here in hltv.org
2012-02-13 21:12:47
Hey, you're here on HLTV aswell?
Glad to see you think a player is clean for once ^^
2012-02-13 21:27:17
At least coloN uploaded his pov.. If i had some of you, people would make another " busted " movie.

(As I said for mitat, he's a cheater, and ended to be banned.)
2012-02-13 21:35:21
I have probably uploaded more demos than coloN, it just seemed so pointless after 5 years of sending demos after each match, you know? I would rather play on anticheat and if people still would think I was cheating, well, their loss.

As for mitat, you don't know what happened, I do.
He has been my friend for a very long time, and was playing in a team for quite some time aswell, where he performed on LAN. But a shame what happened.

Enough of him, I'm just glad you're aren't all that stupid I thought you were.
2012-02-13 21:41:14
Hi -[**DaNiEL MørK**]-, pls give us your cheaaat maaaan and the insane aimbot of mitat thanks maaan!

btw : you know i know it and you know you know it trololololo.
2012-02-13 21:57:20
You might know something I don't.
You can buy my hack though, want to?
2012-02-13 22:02:08
No sry, I don't cheat for fun/insane frags lololol look at my movies :D:dsS:DDS.

When I play CS and i see the team against me is cheating (10 years xp cs, many lans, i don't care if u dont trust me) I turn on for a rough PUNISH through walls and generally, they leave after 1 round or 2 if they are courageous, I am like an avenger!

I played against you 2 times in 2on2 :

The first one, you were cheating like a poor prick with your aimbot and wh, you have done like 10 headshots while jumping :>.

The second one, my friend and I turned on instantly and we gave you a nice punish, that was cool because your aimbot doesn't pass through the walls so you were weak and well.. We've had a great time pwning some fat daniel mork until we get kicked.

The morality of the story -> you're a fat cunt(mitat too).

Post edited 2012-02-13 22:55:02
2012-02-13 22:52:36
I like you! You're funny! Turning on hax because you think the others guys are cheating isn't very nice though. You want to talk about how you feel?

Post edited 2012-02-13 23:22:01
2012-02-13 23:20:11
Go hang urself
2012-03-07 02:07:02
Ban because someone made a video that can be done
about any of the pro player. Ok.

Post edited 2012-02-13 20:57:02
2012-02-13 20:53:53
it cant be done about any player, try do it and reply to me here in this with a link.

GOOD LUCK!
2012-02-13 20:58:20
xplayn is atm interviewing the CB admins and colon is coming with a statement around 21:00 cet (5 mins)

http://xplayn.com/21517
2012-02-13 20:54:21
Xplayn right on time as usual. Only an hour delayed
2012-02-13 22:04:07
usaly.... xD
2012-02-13 22:06:20
XD
2012-02-13 20:54:39
What a retarded decision by the ClanBase admin. Oh well, Clansbase has been dead for quite some time now.

Post edited 2012-02-13 20:55:09
2012-02-13 20:54:49
YEAH!
2012-02-13 20:55:17
Ok there is one suspicious move on alley guys in train, but if u watch demo well enemie made sound in train that why he moved his crosshair, all others action was due to skills because all was in obvious spots where he can catch ennemie directly....anyway like someone said if NEW NEO is born u would ban him, realy not faire at all....

P.S: Try to watch all pro POVS u will suspect them too, but that is due to skills, LIKE WHAT HAPPEN WITH DELPAN IF U REMEBER......
Sad story :/

Post edited 2012-02-13 20:56:42
2012-02-13 20:55:25
+information sound and brain
2012-02-13 20:56:19
saw it coming
2012-02-13 20:56:11
Clan base is a joke, not pointing he didn't cheated...
2012-02-13 20:56:50
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
2012-02-13 20:56:52
killer xD
2012-02-13 20:57:25
just seems like players who know better than these admins think coloN doesn't cheat... i.e. ArcadioN, warzorN, zecer...
2012-02-13 20:57:31
reakq - HLTV.org
#233
this decision confirms that ColoN is suspicious but nothing prove he's a cheater.
An admin can only make a subjective point of view. The error is human, that's why a human opinion can't be 100% sure.
I'm not accusing ClanBase which at least take care about request and do their best for cs with their resources, but it seems a bit light to block up a player with this only one element
2012-02-13 20:57:56
Ok there is one suspicious move on alley guys in train, but if u watch demo well enemie made sound in train that why he moved his crosshair, all others action was due to skills because all was in obvious spots where he can catch ennemie directly....anyway like someone said if NEW NEO is born u would ban him, realy not faire at all....

P.S: Try to watch all pro POVS u will suspect them too, but that is due to skills, LIKE WHAT HAPPEN WITH DELPAN IF U REMEBER......
Sad story :/
+ Info of team while talking, skills and brain

Post edited 2012-02-13 20:59:38
2012-02-13 20:58:29
Hope they are not wrong
2012-02-13 20:58:35
coloN sick cheater, he can't play with cheats ;p
2012-02-13 20:58:49
fucking poor children

u won't be neo, even don't try tROLL
2012-02-13 20:58:53
btw N0sfe is not cheater! ;)
2012-02-13 20:59:10
finally.

deserved.
2012-02-13 20:59:22
hahahahah
2012-02-13 20:59:54
finally
2012-02-13 21:00:25
nice
2012-02-13 21:00:42
right decision :]
2012-02-13 21:01:53
Hacky Hacky gets what he deserved :)
2012-02-13 21:04:10
post anything here colon , please!!!
2012-02-13 21:04:29
AHAHHAHHAAHAHHAHAAHHHAHAHHHHAAHHAHAHAHA nice coloN
2012-02-13 21:06:19
I bet he can kill Norwegian player as equally as here on LAN. I think that he didn't cheated, fact is that most people are just jealous and greedy..[sry, bad english]
2012-02-13 21:07:49
Why do you bring up Norwegian players?
2012-02-14 00:04:02
Danny D3 - HLTV.org
#601
Because he was banned for the Denmark vs Norway match perhaps?
2012-02-14 03:10:46
Yeah, so? Bad example anyways.
2012-02-14 09:39:06
Danny D3 - HLTV.org
#704
I'm just answering your question...
2012-02-14 16:26:59
lol
2012-02-13 21:07:57
any*
2012-02-13 21:08:02
coloN wasn't hacking. This is pretty sad.
2012-02-13 21:08:17
yes he wasn't he just has a retarded 15 old face and most of hltv.org users including clanbase admins are wrong.
2012-02-13 21:11:00
Well, he is 20, not 15. Most hltv.org users (at least those who comment on most threads) have no suficient knowledge of the game to know if someone is cheating or not, and by admins banned him for 12 months just by looking into the POV just proves the admins have no more knowledge of the game than most hltv.org users.
2012-02-13 21:17:30
well then you can relate to the most of the hltv.org users who have no suficient knowledge of the game. and if you didn't know, they watched the demo with wh, not by playing it for 5 seconds and just made an opinion.
2012-02-13 21:22:18
They watched the demo with WH, nice proof, just look at most comments on the thread of the bust movie. 90% was saying look at this scene, look at that one, look at the other... Most are completly normal actions.

Post edited 2012-02-13 21:25:41
2012-02-13 21:25:20
nice proof that he didn't cheated, well he did, and hes banned. good for him
2012-02-13 21:27:38
Permanent ban for him!!!
2012-02-13 21:10:20
So they banned him just looking into the POV?
12 month ban for a completly subjective POV, nice Clan Base.
2012-02-13 21:10:23
we;; there is evidence and what evidence that he didn't cheat you can prove?
2012-02-13 21:11:59
Well, I think you're saying there is evidence that he cheated but no evidence that he didn't cheat?

There is as much evidence to prove he didn't cheat as there is to prove he did. So I don't think he should be banned just because of some subjective opinion of the people/admin.
2012-02-13 21:15:15
well hes banned for cheating, and you probably can't do nothing about it. end of discussion.
2012-02-13 21:18:31
What evidence? A youtube video?
2012-02-13 21:37:45
busts on youtube, a complaint, accused of cheating not for the first time, this ban.
2012-02-13 21:40:57
that is not how things work. You are not guilty until proven not guilty.
2012-02-14 13:40:16
And what is not subjective ??? If a team of competent people decided that it is cheat then it is a cheat . Thats why We have a Clan Base . If they decided taht HE did not cheated would you respond the same way ?????? I bet that you would not because you think that HE did not cheat based on completly subjective POV. Why do you expect double standards then ???
2012-02-13 21:18:16
Then lets put it this way.

You suspect someone stole a store. Should he be condemned to 1 year of prison just because they think maybe he did it, without any actual proof?

Maximum would be a rematch, and coloN was only able to play with a camera behind or at a LAN cafe.

Post edited 2012-02-13 21:22:13
2012-02-13 21:21:03
I think that you analogy is flawed . Right analogy would be this : Whole bunch of hltv people and norway CS team suspect someone stole a store . They actually cought him on cam where it is shown how He stoles some things from the store . The videotape is then presented to the forensic team which after some investigation conclude that He stole and punish the guy . Than you come and say : how they coul punish him based on only one subjective crime He did .
2012-02-13 21:25:49
"They actually cought him on cam where it is shown how He stoles some things from the store ."

Your analogy is more flawed than mine. He wasn't caught doing anything, people just think he was.
2012-02-13 21:33:08
Well every crime starts with a suspection . Then you narrow all the suspects on the criteria of evidence . Suspection here is his weird gameplay . Evidence is obtained by observing his POV with wall hack on . Its only way to prove that someone cheated in online match .
2012-02-13 21:39:27
So when you murder someone, it gets caught on film your not guilty? What a retarded point of view.
2012-02-16 08:43:36
Hum...... lol

"So when you murder someone, it gets caught on film your not guilty?"

Your analogy is more flawed than mine. He wasn't caught doing anything, people just think he was.
2012-02-16 10:07:21
The proof in this case is his demo.
2012-02-16 10:51:53
aww boo I liked coloN because he used the scout but this......
2012-02-13 21:10:31
lolol another dane caught cheating
2012-02-13 21:11:50
gotta catch 'em all
2012-02-13 22:24:01
Danny D3 - HLTV.org
#608
lolol we're turning into sweden
2012-02-14 03:26:55
Cheater or not, respect coloN, this is just a game, get a life ffs.

2012-02-13 21:13:06
Just because you don't take cs seriously doesn't mean others don't. So the "it's just a video game" argument doesn't fly at all.

Besides, cheating is cheating. If you have to cheat at something like this, you're a pathetic person.
2012-02-13 21:18:04
Sure, just prove he did it.

Cause i saw no evidences besides a video.
2012-02-13 21:20:24
That video shows quite a few suspicious plays. In my opinion, too many suspicious plays to be coincidence.
2012-02-13 21:21:58
U can be right, but i have my solid opinion, and as a lot of people said, FUCK CB!

They have no evidences at all to ban someone for 12 MONHTS!

Get some Anti-Cheat losers >.<
2012-02-13 21:27:22
I agree. We should respect him like he respected the other players.
2012-02-13 21:18:43
lol

Post edited 2012-02-13 21:15:35
2012-02-13 21:14:47
Clanbase need a anti-cheat tool, this bans is inadmissible.
2012-02-13 21:17:03
bye bye coloN
2012-02-13 21:18:08
Fuck CB , that's all I have to say.

They have no evidence.. unprofessional decision.
2012-02-13 21:18:13
The only possible solid evidence is if he says that he cheated himself, as it is a videogame. There is no need for it, if everything is against him. Like it or not, this is how real courts act.
2012-02-13 21:24:54
I killed you. Now call the police, I will go to jail for sure...
2012-02-13 21:38:24
I'm alive, therefore you didn't kill me.
2012-02-13 21:45:22
So your logic doesn't work, admitting to something isn't solid evidence.
2012-02-13 21:46:54
+1
2012-02-13 21:59:12
Your logic is so wrong.. we aren't talking about cases such as murder, we are talking about cheating in a computer game, and you can't ban someone without having an evidence.

What's an evidence? They are playing with an anti-cheat as far as I know, and as long as this specific anti-cheat didn't caught him for cheating he is innocent no matter what people say based on several POV demos they watched with wallhack.

Accusing someone for cheating just because of a suspicious demo is like accusing someone for murdering someone only based on a suspicious behavior during an investigation.

PURE CRAP.
2012-02-13 22:03:49
Where did I say something about murder?
2012-02-14 02:31:17
Oh please just don't reply to me at all since you have nothing to say.

You talked about "solid evidence" and "real court" , so I gave you an example just like satanioN did.
2012-02-14 09:22:15
Calm down Judge Judie HAHAHAHA. Refering cheating in agame to an actual murder case isn't making both of you any clever.

I'd refrain using any example other than the fact that zaider & moxxi got banned in whole denmark for 0 evidence.

This evidence is as thin as that facebook log + all scandinavian gamers who game gathers knows that coloN loves his crazy bong!

2012-02-14 14:21:57
they have a pov demo a complain and a wh tu watch the pov with.
2012-02-13 21:26:20
Read my comment above you (#441)
2012-02-13 22:04:09
why do you keep on saying that a complaint is evidence?
2012-02-14 13:41:59
Can't understand wy all the danish people are defending this guy he did cheat and if you look on the cheat movie you see it clearly
2012-02-13 21:21:03
hhhaahahahahahahahahaahhaahahha
:)
2012-02-13 21:21:03
FUCKIN NOOB !
2012-02-13 21:22:58
how old COLON ?
2012-02-13 21:23:14
20.
2012-02-13 21:35:51
cheater whahahhaha
2012-02-13 23:21:49
Oh rly?!?!?!?
2012-02-13 23:26:00
yes
2012-02-15 14:40:10
So.. 20 - 13 (years, he claims to have been playing)

He started playing when he was 7? Nice lie
2012-02-16 08:45:41
So without any actual proof they ban him for one year?

Maximum they should only let him play at a LAN cafe, or with a camera behind him. And a rematch between Norway and Denmark.
2012-02-13 21:23:26
bring him on lan . if hes as good as he is online then good 4 him :) but id agree wid d ban :) hes fkin fishy :\
2012-02-13 21:26:20
Should ban him forever!
2012-02-13 21:27:02
pfffff, this is only kid
2012-02-13 21:27:52
hahahahahahaha coloN stupid cheater.
2012-02-13 21:28:10
I've been playing this fucking game for like 11 years now, and I wouldn't dare to say it's WH after watching 1 demo. There are no ultra obvious situations, everyone who watched ANY demo with WH should know that there are situations that resemble cheating but they're not cheated. Plus colon knew that he will be closely watched, so he may have intentionally played like this just to provoke discussion, he made a lot of (missed) random shots in wall and after all we can't hear the TS from POV. Anyway it's pointless to argue with users here, as 90% of them installed steam 2-3 years ago and cry on public servers after getting wallbanged. I say demo from 1 match is not enough. I just hope the admins made a good decision.
2012-02-13 21:28:20
fucking retard, i hate him. he deserve it, colon pls get out, and never come back!
2012-02-13 21:28:48
I think it's a unprofessional decision to ban him without real evidence.

I would like to have some info about that CB admin team. Why should they be considered competent enough to decide whether or not coloN was cheating?
2012-02-13 21:30:43
so its professional to cheat in event like this with team mates as zonic and others and think that he will get away with all this? not the first time his been caught, not the last. when he will drop on lan 30+ against good teams, then maybe he will be more respectfull. for now looking forward to see his scout skills at lan
2012-02-13 21:37:28
changed my point of view to all Denmark cs community.
Naive Danes, saying he dont cheat ... noob !
2012-02-13 21:31:01
Meh. I still think he is clean.
2012-02-13 21:31:55
no word to describe clanbase or their admins. been playing in cb for 11 years or more and still the thing sucks. finnish cs scene just doesn't have anything else to offer.. sad.
2012-02-13 21:31:56
where are you now colon?

fucking idiot
2012-02-13 21:32:16
Finally. Sad for Denmark :( It's sad to see a country with good CS scene like Denmark to get kicked from the ClanBase because of a stupid retard. Anyway, it was a bad move to pick coloN.
2012-02-13 21:34:14
You guys obviously don't got any kind of brain. So fucking entertaining to see.. coloN doesn't cheat, newbies :))) An AVI movie, yeah right, the person who made that movie couldn't edit it, no :)))
2012-02-13 21:34:29
I admire ClanBase's decision, I really do. Yet I don't understand it.
The demo doesn't show any hack, and everyone with just a little knowledge, or whom followed coloN knows he got a shitty ass strange playstyle.
I remember the first time i played with him aswell at a gather, where he were 1on1 with zarnix. He just came out on vent "How is it lukas normally plays hmmm", turns 180 degrees and around the cornor zarnix comes.

I don't the .avi or even the demo as a proof, and real evidence. I hope for the gods sake, that coloN didn't cheat. Yet I'm unsure if he did or not.

Anyhow. If coloN didn't cheat, and he will play just the same @ DEL on DSRack eSports Café, I'm gonna laugh at all haters that is pointing fingers too soon. I doubt ClanBase got more than 2 admins that reviewed that demo, without seeing the .avi first. It could easily make people blind, and keep in their mind that he cheats, instead of having a positive angle to it, and try to look at ALL situations that was ever possible, before concluding the fact that he cheated.

Son, I am dissapoint. Unprofessional, nothing else to say.

Btw: If you're going to reply to this, come with something constructive instead of being a big bad newbie, that can't argue properly.

Post edited 2012-02-13 21:38:08
2012-02-13 21:36:25
Can I reply with a simple +1?
Because that was the most clever I've read so far.
2012-02-13 21:45:16
Stopped reading at "He got a shitty ass strange playstyle". DERP
2012-02-13 21:50:27
Then you're obviously selling the skin, before shooting the bear.

May that be real life, or online. Judging too fast is just stupidity.
2012-02-13 21:54:25
There is not simply such thing as "shitty ass strange playstyle", either you are clean, or you arent. "Shitty ass strange" is just a eufemism for wh.
2012-02-13 22:28:15
Danny D3 - HLTV.org
#609
So online everyone should play by the book, or they've got wh? Nice logic.
2012-02-14 03:29:09
Depends on wtf you mean by "play by the book". If you mean following players thro the walls, pre-firing "random" spots and stuff like that so yes, you should/HAVE to play by the book
2012-02-14 13:28:36
clever, +1
2012-02-13 22:00:47
colon statement ?
2012-02-13 21:36:58
Some danish boy here could translate this please ? : Vi er i gang med at interviewe ClanBases cup supervisor NICKY og coloN. De to interviews kommer op i en nyhed asap. Det tager dels tid, fordi mit engelske er lige så rustent som Lizzards sexliv, og fordi jeg er fuld pt. hehe.

? Thank's !
2012-02-13 21:37:07
We're about to interview Clanbase Cup Supervisor NICKY and coloN. The 2 interviews will come up in ASAP. It's take a bit of time cause my english is just as bad as Lizzard's sexlife, and because I'm drunk at the moment, hehe.
2012-02-13 21:39:04
thank you :)))) !!
2012-02-13 21:41:34
hahahaha
2012-02-13 22:35:08
"We are going to interview Clanbase Cup NICKY and coloN. The two interviews are coming in the news. It takes time, because my english is quite rusty/bad as Lizzards sexlife, and because im drunk at the moment."

A little bad, but thats it :)
2012-02-13 21:42:06
Hahhaha thank's I tried to understand it cause some dannish words look like some I know in flemmish and english but it's hard :p !
2012-02-13 21:46:47
nice, busted
2012-02-13 21:37:40
Chlenix v1.0
2012-02-13 21:38:40
hahahaahaha
2012-02-13 21:38:48
coloN unreal lucker , no cheat :)
2012-02-13 21:39:18
one year is not enough
2012-02-13 21:39:37
coloN, why don't you use Chlenix?

XDDDD
2012-02-13 21:40:23
gg : p
2012-02-13 21:42:48
no cheat
2012-02-13 21:43:09
CHLENIX&#65279; off madarfuker !!!
2012-02-13 21:45:31
Bye bye ColoN :)
2012-02-13 21:45:53
THIS IS MADNEEESSSSSSSSSS !!!!!!
2012-02-13 21:47:37
Madness? THIS IS CHLENIIIIIIIIX !!!!
2012-02-14 05:36:34
banhammer
2012-02-13 21:48:30
dnoloN
2012-02-13 21:49:21
I did posted my opinion in #237, just i want to add something because i realy feel that that is unfaire and admins didnt respect danmark netheir Colon,
I have played few months ago with carn's mix on his server, the fact u play with pros sometimes make u feeling they cheat, he was doing wallbang everywhere with his skills, he did use sound and skills and ofc his brain, same for Claudio, who play in italian Team and play for REDBYTE, he was playing so good on esl VERSUS, i had the chance to play on his team and all players suspect him, but that because people who played against or with him was low so they suspect, same is happening here, but dont accuse people when u cant even kill 10 on low mix.....and COLON DIDNT CHEAT.....
2012-02-13 21:50:57
Ur argument is just dumb since they were playing vs Norway, not some random low mix ;)
2012-02-14 13:32:01
hahahaah!!!! yeah! But now Norway default win?
2012-02-13 21:51:31
From fragbite :

Whats your thought and opinion about the clanbase decision to give Denmark a red card?

Giving Denmark a red card is probably the most stupid decision made by a tournament this popular. Seeing as the team roster is made of individual players, I see no reason for Denmark to be excluded*.

And about your penalty, you were handed out a ban that stretches over 12 months?

For a tournament to be prestigious and attract professional teams and players, I believe one rule should be on top of the rest; Innocent until _proven_ guilty. The evidence regarding my ban is ridiculous. 12 months, a year, two - I could not care less. I won't be playing CB again.

How do you intend to prove everyone wrong?

I've thought a lot about that question and the only answer I can provide, is that I'll be attending a lot of LAN's this year, if allowed of course, with my team. I'd like to say one last thing: I've played CS for 13 years - when you see a professional boxer on TV with that many years on his back, you'll notice all the tricks he's learned, you'll see that he can predict the next move of his opponent and you'll learn that if somebody does something for that many years and still have a flair for it, that person will be one of the best in his area of expertise. My area of expertise, how sad it might sound, is Counter-Strike.
2012-02-13 21:51:31
C'mon he was obviously cheating, even Get_Right,markeloff,f0rest,delpan doesn't play like that. Little addict kid, 13 years to a virtual video game?... ohh yeah.. that's smart, when you have not yet won a mayor event in your life. Totaly gotta keep playing with results like that....
2012-02-13 22:21:29
dumb decision
2012-02-13 21:51:44
dumb decision because u play with hacks too ?
2012-02-13 21:54:50
:D:D colon nice !
2012-02-13 21:53:38
noob
2012-02-13 21:54:07
A video doesnt prove much, but some scenes are really strange. However, dont think he used to play with wallhack in this match. Moreover, he will be unbanned the next year and a new cup is possibly going to be done.

Post edited 2012-02-13 21:55:53
2012-02-13 21:54:20
two cheat
2012-02-13 21:57:31
Fail by CB,this guy was owning fnatic fair and square, recommend the demo
2012-02-13 21:54:47
wtf this has to do vs fnatic? + they lost against fnatic dude.
2012-02-14 11:30:07
he played great and there was no suspicous moments
2012-02-14 11:39:14
still didn't see him owning like he did vs norway.
2012-02-14 11:42:12
ppl rly are stupid, based on that pov from norway match he does not cheat and he did great against fnatic too though they lost.
2012-02-14 17:46:25
CS will not live for so long, wtf...
2012-02-13 21:54:59
Deserved.
2012-02-13 21:55:19
Fucking sad for pro gamer....:SS
2012-02-13 21:55:26
and the Norway ?? what will happend??
2012-02-13 21:55:41
+1???
2012-02-13 21:56:31
forfait win
2012-02-14 11:30:39
they got forfait win
2012-02-14 11:30:28
makz wh! lol ..
2012-02-13 21:55:47
What the f*ck? Where is proof?


ADMIN WATCHED DEMO BLAH BLAH... thats not enough to ban him...
2012-02-13 21:58:49
shame on you colon
2012-02-13 22:00:45
What shock for me..He has played 13 years cs..Hahaha..And he is probably something like 19 years? ...Damn in Denmark people starts playing cs already 6years old..
Damn what parents you have :)
2012-02-13 22:00:58
21 soon
2012-02-13 22:04:02
Ok let say 21 then..But what bullshit still:)
Can't he make better excuse..What u think about boxer who has trained whole life...HAHAHHAH..Damn Are people so naive and stupid in denmark:)
2012-02-13 22:07:11
naive and stupid? I'm 21.. almost 22 so 1 year older than coloN.. and I've played since end of -99 aswell. u got problem with that?
2012-02-14 17:47:46
we should ban some russians because most of them are cheating on public. LoL

Post edited 2012-02-13 22:03:15
2012-02-13 22:02:35
Justice was done
2012-02-13 22:04:42
"With Johansen's ban follows a red card to Denmark, which results in a forfeit loss in the match against Norway."

I did not understand one thing. Will denmark be allowed to play anymore in CBNC or they will lose by forfait every match?
2012-02-13 22:05:03
Yes they will, they just lost the match against Norway.
2012-02-13 22:08:36
They lose only that match. They will continue other matches of course.
2012-02-13 22:08:58
NO PROOF - GTFO admin... stupid ClanBase.
2012-02-13 22:05:39
Colon=dno=lol BAN BAN BAN
2012-02-13 22:05:55
This ban made him somewhat a victim. Now even people who believe he cheated are supporting him.
2012-02-13 22:08:18
coloN - moroN =D
2012-02-13 22:08:52
yes, fuc*ing tard!in your face arcadioN!
2012-02-13 22:10:22
Admins fault yea..He has played CS 13 years.. He has learned to know how people will play this game xD. There is pattern in every tactical play and how most people play maps. Even preaiming ladder dancers :D

Defenders of COLON ==> EAT TEH DUST!! and Change name <3 COLON=FODDER
2012-02-13 22:10:51
nice clanbase good job
2012-02-13 22:12:26
fuck him :P
2012-02-13 22:13:40
What a schock !!!
2012-02-13 22:13:55
Danemark strikes again, COLON should be banned from all events, that are to be played with online qual or something like that.
2012-02-13 22:16:21
ALELUIA.
2012-02-13 22:17:04
HAHAHAHHAHAHHAH! coloN!
2012-02-13 22:17:34
nice

e:he even looks like a cheater :DD

Post edited 2012-02-13 22:24:52
2012-02-13 22:19:03
And the noobs got once again pleased.
2012-02-13 22:20:45
+1
2012-02-13 22:25:05
Stupid mother fucker !!
2012-02-13 22:21:06
should be permanent not 12 months...
2012-02-13 22:22:29
12 Months BAN Only?
2012-02-13 22:22:48
stupid decision
2012-02-13 22:23:05
You do not win a battle by doing what is right ...

YOU WIN ... by doing what is necessary !!!

2012-02-13 22:23:53
pff n1 coloN,soon u'll join ur friends moxxi and zaider lololo
2012-02-13 22:25:27
lol'd at danes cryin' about his ban.
2012-02-13 22:30:45
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
cheatersgonnacheat

+1 but permanent ban imo!!!
2012-02-13 22:30:46
haha
now ZIKKAN_X you can eat dick, i told you taht Denmark and this kid will be banned from tourney
2012-02-13 22:31:03
FU CKING CHEATER GO BAN 100 year !!!!!!!
2012-02-13 22:31:07
;))
2012-02-13 22:42:55
thats the prob to live in the internet you cant be good there you have to show something on lans but yea he was hacking and got Fked up
2012-02-13 22:46:44
Obviously he is not cheating, if you would spec GeT_RiGhT or any other madfragger the way you a speccing him you would see no difference in unexplainable situations.I mean it's a open 3D game where anything could happen if you just put your mind to it. And for you guys thinking he cheats get a grip and stop the envy. :)
2012-02-13 22:48:05
okthxbye
FULL BULLSHIT
they busted a cheater, u mad? was it your playing friend?
2012-02-14 00:53:05
only 12 months? imo it should have been a year.


hehe.
2012-02-13 22:48:53
BATISTUTA9 - HLTV.org
#736
Why did you include the "Hehe" was an epic troll until :D
2012-02-14 18:35:04
most of you just cant believe in the fact he didnt cheat and the fact that you made a mistake calling him a cheater
thats the real reason of all your argues
:/
2012-02-13 22:58:20
hopefully he get permanent ban. i would say same if for example f0rest would have cheated in online national game. even if you are semipro/pro, you are not allowed to cheat anymore than player who spent way less time with cs

not first time when colon cheated, good that he finally got caught
2012-02-13 22:58:42
ClanBase bans Co... WHO? -.-
2012-02-13 22:59:34
I think when colon said "i have a unique playstyle" is just bullshit to excuse his cheating. You can buy a EAC cheat from organner.pl so yeah - he cheated.
2012-02-13 23:01:33
Come on guys, he's just skilled =DDD
2012-02-13 23:03:37
amx_ban coloN 1337
2012-02-13 23:04:35
It does not matter how good you can play this game,if you cheated you cheated.
Im saying from my point of view,he did cheat.I know some of you guys may want to defend him,it's ok. Some of you guys said need more proof,some of you guys said watch him played,that he is amazing ppl.Ok,1st of all,people aren't blind,I mean not only CB admins were checking his demo, but the rest cs ppls from both sides.
i know some of you may know him in real,or even play aside with him before,but that does not prove him hacking or not.All i want to say is:it's very hard to catch a hacker,but it's even harder to catch an experienced hacker who played this game for a long time. Before zaidor got caught a lot of you guys defend him too, and he commit he hacked after that.
when ppl said he played this game for 13 years,is that a proof for anti hacking?what kind of logic is that? you can play a game 20 years and still hack,dont make me laugh at your comment,the reason ppl ban hackers is base on demos and anti cheats,not guessing or trusting of ppl.

It's sad to see some "PRO" turn to be hacker, but wat's more sad is that these are some nubs are defending him.
check his pov demos before you make up ur mind.
2012-02-13 23:09:05
ahahah finally the kid got banned...
2012-02-13 23:09:46
Haha, why is it that coloN isn't saying anything in this thread. He used to replied to threads like that on the forum :))
2012-02-13 23:11:19
he is liar too, good job lying about playing 13 when game is barely 12 years. dosent know ho to play cs, or hide cheat, and he prove he cant even lie properly, amazing fails colon
2012-02-13 23:13:21
The game is 12 years and 8 months old.... so in whole years count its not a lie, if he started playing when the first beta came out in june 1999

lawyered

Post edited 2012-02-13 23:25:46
2012-02-13 23:25:09
The best thing CB ever done, oh wait ...
2012-02-13 23:14:24
xplayn interviewed Nicky about cbs decision, its on english so its aight. they also interviewed colon, but I have no idea what he says because I cba to translate, just came for the english interview,

if any of you guys are interested, you may find it here:

http://xplayn.com/21519
2012-02-13 23:24:11
While basing a cheating ban on a demo review is never 100% accurate (opposed to client detection) it seems like most of the community thought he cheated. If you watch moddii's POV vs colon's team yesterday, both moddii and xizt got hit perfectly by his awp while crossing above ladder. They both turned to each other and typed "??? what." Seems even most pros were suspicious of him.
2012-02-13 23:24:51
well some pros defend him too, like arcadion, but ppl like friis and minet says he hacks.
2012-02-13 23:29:50
lol of course arcadion defends him, they play on the same team...
2012-02-14 00:48:52
well bad example then, but snappi defends him too
2012-02-14 13:35:08
lol i watched that situation on demo yesterday like 5 times and I wonder none mentioned it.

The thing is colon hit first moddii while running but at a classic spam spot where n4 is on the wall(the place inside you go to a ladder), but then he hit xizt all the way to the right like he was nowhere close to moddii, that was just amazing i watched it 5 times and i couldnt believe and I see that both moddii and xizt were shocked. moddii down to 35 hp and xizt with 48 if i recall correctly. It was at 5-5 so I think everybody should download this demo and take a look at that round because I honestly dont think colon cheated vs fnatic and he pulled of this 2 out 2 wallbangs with awp. If you watch it you will say wh but look at the whole match, most of the times colon didnt have idea where the opponents were, I doubt he turned on wh for one round, the whole match he really played great, I think most of the ppl should watch this situation because looks like colon can pull off some crazy stuff. Sorry for a long post but you are the first one who mentioned this very interesting situation.
2012-02-14 01:08:40
I watched the same demo,im not sure if colon hacked or not in that match,cause i need to view pov instead of other ppls pov to tell.
I do think some times it's really fishy shots,a lot of pro may feel that way, but they still play calm,and win it. Cause pro-gamers think hacker will never make ppl into legend ppl.
IF they lose the match, they may go back and ask admin to view his pov.But u can see even if he hacked, it didn't help him win the match at all.
2012-02-14 03:48:15
you can watch hltv demo where you can watch colon moddi and xizt, thats what i did, watched all players in this crazy situation. I also watched colon the whole time that was only suspicious moment, like I said I doubt he turned on wh for one round.
2012-02-14 10:52:59
12 months? omg it should be more ... hackers have what they deserve
2012-02-13 23:34:52
i dont think his cheating, sad to see this ban...
2012-02-13 23:39:18
grand - HLTV.org
#538
If anyone is interrested we have interviewed an admin from ClanBase on XplayN.com. You can read it here:

http://xplayn.com/21519

There is also a interview with coloN himself, but it is on danish so you have to translate it.
2012-02-13 23:40:00
its funny tho that the admin says that he was the 6th to review the demo, but then later on he says he was 1 of the first to review it...
2012-02-14 00:49:48
rofl...it was me. 6th as "the sixth person in our voting process". Of course I saw the demo 1st as I'm the most active guy on all sites/forums. Sorry cuz English is not my 1st language.
2012-02-14 02:18:48
haha np, i just had to say it bc i noticed it
2012-02-14 02:27:19
I noticed it myself. News writer didn't understand me but it's ok.
2012-02-14 02:53:37
what's happenin', most of danish players are getting banned.. #nice
2012-02-13 23:43:11
aspx.exe
2012-02-13 23:44:19
lol
2012-02-14 03:11:11
f4king cheater, good job Admins!
2012-02-13 23:44:33
- 1 cheater :) better world !
2012-02-13 23:47:09
kids like he does not deserve to have fingers or head -_-

2012-02-13 23:56:44
HAHAHAHA :D
2012-02-13 23:58:18
I love diz.
2012-02-14 00:07:48
SHAME TO DENMARK
2012-02-14 00:16:02
Not really. I am Danish and I couldn't care less about him or this decision. The only bad thing about this situation though, is that Denmark lost the match because of him.
2012-02-14 02:12:00
ye.. denmark play with a topnet... with a lot of god players they play with colon... omg
2012-02-14 12:08:52
I agree 100% :-)
2012-02-14 13:35:16
I can't understand admins from ClanBase... Banning players because of watching their POV demos(coloN's one was pretty normal, nothing special).
2012-02-14 00:16:41
look at his face , he looks like god damn cheater!
since when 13 year old kids kills 3 fnatic players every round !?
2012-02-14 00:21:40
+1
2012-02-14 00:37:20
yea he looks like a sneaky little douchebag
2012-02-14 00:50:51
+1
2012-02-14 11:04:51
he is 20 though lol
2012-02-14 13:36:22
well he definitely doesn't look 20 lol ;f
I guess cheaters never grow up haha
2012-02-15 00:48:11
pathetic cheating nerd
2012-02-14 00:22:34
The amount of stupidity on this thread.
2012-02-14 00:25:17
banned , hahahha, go back your bubble coloN
2012-02-14 00:27:36
Clanbase has always been a joke.
2012-02-14 00:31:32
+1 :)
2012-02-14 00:45:16
you are not right. It never was. Long time ago every one was playing there. Why u said like this. I was playing there about 10 years ago . Every one was playing there all top teams and players. Them esl show up. SO stop saying bullshit
2012-02-14 00:49:22
-1,
i live in US now but i use to play CB league for a long time,it was one of the best league back then, and i think it still is a good league now,learn to back urself up when ur talking.
2012-02-14 03:57:20
I thought he cheated, but that ban was the wrong decision. You gotta be sure about things like that. Sunman was called a cheater a lot before his huge success at LAN.
2012-02-14 01:00:04
merited ! cheater nooooooooooob !
2012-02-14 01:30:50
finally.
2012-02-14 02:05:23
there ain't no proof coming from an anticheat software telling that he cheated, maybe colon was just in a super-mood and played really well..
that's not deserved and i blame the clanbase admins for that choice
2012-02-14 02:16:15
yeah because anti cheats cannot be bypassed in anyway.......................................
2012-02-14 03:11:33
you should be on the other side against him,and let his scout hsed with ur teammate boost you then you may notice if he cheated or not,rofl.
I dont even think any 1 who is not wallhacking can do things like that.
If you think only anticheat can catch a lot of hackers then there are 2 many hackers will be sneak into real gaming online event,POV is just as same as anticheat to get them.
CB is 2 kind to just give him 1 year ban,should be bannd forever.
2012-02-14 04:01:36
lol guys, its 100% cheats, so funny moments again and again, good decision, bb coloN and bb Denmark
2012-02-14 02:22:52
The worst thing isn't that he clearly cheated, but is that some people still say that he didn't >.<
2012-02-14 03:10:48
This is so boring . ClanBase is now place where u can show and improve your fu**en cheater skills..
Shame for superstar zonic ..and if YOU are in your national team try to play fair..
2012-02-14 03:15:30
it is obvious that he is cheating but the videos I've seen so far weren't all that obvious. colon is an experienced cheater, you will not catch him using aimkey just the occasional preaim/prefire.

anyway this is good news for all, colon claims he can not go to a lancafe 20km away because he has a debt of $10.000. so now he will have more time to pay off his debt and maybe in a couple of years from now he will attend some international lan
2012-02-14 03:18:32
watching demo isn't 100% reliability because you're not on vocal with his mates, you dont have his habits of thinking/playing, ...

i watched his video and i can give you some examples
- when he scopes the popdog train, it wasn't a premove i clearly see a leg on the right
- he stoped and didn't rush yard : duh, sure why not, he can change his mind/tactics you know
- upper ramp inner yard : he checks the one man height first and then he noticed something one the higher spot, if you look closely you'll see a little black line it's the front part of the awp
- the last action : he waits because he was waiting for his mates to go inner, he moves only after a kill was done

im sure i can explain more scenes but im lazy so i hope you'll see my point and stop acting like sheeps, use your brain and be more objective
2012-02-14 03:36:06
talk as much as you want,most experience ppls knows if he cheats or not,not 1 ppl like u are viewing this demo.
ROFL, fun to see ppl stupid enough to defend him just like months ago they defend zaidor,sad there are so many noobs in this world.
2012-02-14 04:05:00
There's one certain thing in the world and that is
"You can see what you WANT to see." Meaning even if you know it's wrong, you're still telling yourself it's not true
2012-02-14 14:28:46
i dont even know him that well as i don't follow esports this much anymore, i just watched the video and used my eyes and my brain with my exp as a former gamer. Im not saying that im 100% right, just trying to be objective.

"on February 11, 1992, a man who was likely innocent of a crime for which he was about to be put to death uttered these last words: "I'd like to thank my family for loving me and taking care of me. And the rest of the world can kiss my everloving ass, because I'm innocent."
2012-02-14 17:35:21
noobs like you?
2012-02-14 17:41:58
Really shame on he...
2012-02-14 03:49:27
tbh it is good decision for both colon & makz. i was thinking about the same.
2012-02-14 04:50:13
haha denmark the cheater´s country
2012-02-14 05:04:23
kung fu panda where are you now:D?

deserver...cya
2012-02-14 08:05:12
smtimes proz moves r lyk WH
tht doesnt mean they r usin wh
shud check whole POV instead of a 5 min video
2012-02-14 08:57:10
CHLENIX DETECTED OMG!!!!!
2012-02-14 09:58:06
no no cl3nix is for 1337 people, colon is ordinary cheater
2012-02-14 10:50:54
people saying he is innocent because he didnt get busted by the ac just fucking lol
2012-02-14 10:15:44
nice news
2012-02-14 10:17:08
HAHAHA n00b
2012-02-14 10:38:31
We all saw this news coming
2012-02-14 10:45:13
pig banned gj admins !
2012-02-14 10:48:18
Evidence inside to read the one that the other party take the ladder out of the infield COLON aiming air explosion also took a perspective view as a comparison to prove that he is cheating, I went down the POV one turned out to be the other sidesince the individual ladder did not set the stage to take the body out COLON re-targeting it seems the evidence is not very rigorous
2012-02-14 11:31:52
translator ftw!
2012-02-14 11:42:56
+1 hahaha
2012-02-14 13:39:00
News I don't know, but the other is a video, the other ladder go by COLON A in the air and made, and not perspective when perspective as a comparison, to prove that he is cheating, then I went down to POV, that is each other their ladder error. Doing when the body has gone out. COLON just aim at the time, it seems not very exact evidence.
Oh.my english .Oh sh1t. tear...................T_T
2012-02-14 16:47:59
xD np mate, I can understand what u mean.
2012-02-14 18:12:29
thank you. guy:)
2012-02-15 09:42:25
haha im laughing my ass of while reading ur comments
2012-06-28 19:32:41
oh shit..
2012-06-29 05:50:02
sad
2012-02-14 11:46:22
serves him right....
2012-02-14 11:52:47
I guess cheating in online competitions was his deStiny
2012-02-14 12:29:52
deserved. smells like gg !
2012-02-14 12:38:35
Did he admitted that he cheated? :D
2012-02-14 12:40:29
Of course not
2012-02-14 13:36:24
i think one year is not enough for him. For whole life!
2012-02-14 12:43:10
FUCK CHEATER he should be banished for life he and his team fucking LOW
2012-02-14 12:46:02
+1
2012-02-14 14:53:44
thats not cheat noobs
2012-02-14 19:28:49
NOOB
Simple wall hack juajuajuajua.......

BAN FOR NOOB AND RETARD
2012-02-14 13:21:24
for denmark it s better these onliners get banned...this contry have really bad reputation cause of them..

Post edited 2012-02-14 13:32:27
2012-02-14 13:29:25
I agree, but it's sad that it has to be under the Danish team it happens
2012-02-14 13:38:17
Denmark must win without hack.But this fuckin' coloN fuck everything.
2012-02-14 13:39:49
just want to say, im proud to my country!
2012-02-14 13:47:20
I loled when saw people saying It was skill on spot vidz ... burn in hell cheater , he deserves a permanent ban .
2012-02-14 14:10:23
+1000
plus a Pacha's hand in his face
2012-02-14 14:36:44
-coloN +turkizh plz
2012-02-14 14:28:53
I`ve watched the video and my first thought was clearly cheated. but now I´ve watched te demo and my conclusion is definitely no cheat.

Here are the reasons:

Everyone refers to those two actions, first one where he aims to the popdog train and second were he runs to the upper ramp and shots the tower.

If you watch his POV Demo you can see parts of a T model in both actions:
http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2800/r4m9z4pd_jp..
http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/2800/f3w775lq_jp..

and thats why he is preaiming comprehensibly.

Furthermore there are no actions in the demo that can suspect him of cheating or mystical playstyle. I was only wondering about his money management, since he buys AWP when the rest of the team ecoes and he buys Scout instead of FAMAS/M4.

So please watch the demo and see that he isn`t cheating.

just my 2 sence
2012-02-14 14:38:29
Well when you put it that way everything seems quite clear now. Thank you for that brilliant insight. What would we do without you.
JUSTICE FOR COLON!

























NOT!
2012-02-14 14:54:19
Your general logic seems to be something like this: "If you don't agree that he was cheating in the Norway match you must have a bad understanding (or at least worse than me) of how this game works and I will therefore call you a retard".

ArcadioN is one of the smartest players in Denmark and he has a history (as does his brother wazorN) of calling out cheaters and being against it in every way. They are playing with coloN in a team (wazorN might be a standin) and they know more about CS than you ever will, so who do you think I should believe?
2012-02-15 08:27:16
That would be cool explanation if he hadn't aimed up there before that pixel of hand showed up. Maybe you should check the demo few more times and come back again. Like minet said on Danish site, who the hell aims at the tower on upper waiting for a hand to show up.
2012-02-14 18:25:13
and exactly that isn`t correct. he aims to the enemy after he spotted the T model and not before.

http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2800/r4m9z4pd_jp..

look to the screen. he aims like everyone would do in the same situation and then hints the model up uppon to the right and then he predicts a tower and hs the opponent.

http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/2800/f3w775lq_jp..

same situation

he aims to the top of the ladder like everyone else would do in his situation and after he spottet the model (screenshot) he aims to the right maybe for a second and because the T doesnt jump behind the e-box he aims back to the top of the popdogtrain ladder

2012-02-14 19:29:57
Ye saw that myself as I said. But that's with x4 slowmotion, and you know how slow that is. Doubt he even saw it since he never said he did. Answers were kinda "it's my playstyle" "I do what I want and I don't care" etc.

Post edited 2012-02-14 21:38:11
2012-02-14 21:37:56
then what is the interest of ArcadioN playin' with coloN if he cheats?... ArcadioN doesn't like cheaters.. and imo coloN just did 22-21 at that game.. vs fnatic he did 32-20 lol

Post edited 2012-02-16 01:11:26
2012-02-16 01:10:48
I can cheat and have 2-17 stat and still decide the match you know. Person with cheat doesn't even have to kill. Calling is enough ;)
2012-02-16 01:55:52
http://www.e-farm.pl/large/589.jpg

zdrowe jelita = healthy gut
2012-02-14 14:42:31
SVARTA SLAMPA
2012-02-14 15:35:57
JEBANY CZITER!
2012-02-14 16:14:48
+1
2012-02-14 16:18:37
+1 :D
2012-02-14 19:12:06
moron :D coloN sucks bigtime
2012-02-14 16:23:32
only 12 months?

Well see ya next year again then, coloN <3 :)

Post edited 2012-02-14 16:33:10
2012-02-14 16:32:50
coloN <3 CHLENIX
ps cheat ofc
2012-02-14 16:46:17
his an fucking asshole!
2012-02-14 16:48:14
At age 7 or 8 it's the right time to start playing CS .
ql story bro
2012-02-14 17:06:49
go to hell Mr. cheater ! :DD
2012-02-14 17:07:31
this is just like having evidence against some dude about some crime to make it to the court and the jury decides that he is guilty based on their opinion only.
2012-02-14 17:36:01
Well that would be true if the evidence was the video where that guy is walking away from a crime scene all bloody and with knife in his hands. And also if the victim was stabbed with the knife. And if the accused had only argument which would be "the camera didn't actually recorded me doing the killing". Then we could say these two situations are similar, since in both cases the jury (admins from cbnc) have very easy obvious decision to make.

Post edited 2012-02-14 17:56:39
2012-02-14 17:53:16
LOL the video/POV is nowhere near the case you just described. the proof CB has is NOTHING. I'm pretty sure he did not cheat. To add one fact is that why isn't there a video against him from the Xapso vs. fnaticRC game? he was the best player of the match though Xapso lost 20-10.
2012-02-14 20:06:16
you mean like a witness?

their opinions have counted many times in court since the dawn of man.

and by the way, after watching the POV we are all witnesses
2012-02-14 19:10:21
strange to me that coloN had 22-21 (1.05K/D) in the match against Norway which he is accused from and when he pulls off 32-20(1.60K/D) against fnatic and no one finds it suspicious.. why? cause he doesn't cheat.
2012-02-14 20:11:19
Lol i think u misunderstand it all, we (experienced players that play other than public) we dont look only at stats when deciding cheat or no, u should know this cmon.
2012-02-14 20:46:01
lol did i say so? "we experienced players"
(sidenote: i've played since -99)
i was just saying that isn't it obvious that if even a semi-pro player cheats he should've played better than 22-21 in the Norway game.. afterwards he plays against a real pro team fnatic and gets 32-20 (1.60K/D) makes me think that he would've cheated on that game. Check that POV out, nothing wrong with it. so WHY would he cheat on Norway game and play bad IF he is capable doing 32-20 against fnatic when losing the match 20-10 ?
2012-02-14 22:24:24
Mogga logga!
2012-02-14 17:47:23
LOL thats ME
2012-02-14 17:56:56
worst cheater I've ever seen...
2012-02-14 18:01:00
-=TROLLBOSS=-
you can't ever proof that he cheated.
2012-02-14 18:07:20
once a cheater always a cheater !
2012-02-14 18:19:42
colon is a cheater! he has a good soft, and because of this his screenshots are clear, but it doesnot mean that he is not a cheater and a video below prooves this. sry for bad english
2012-02-14 19:24:26
HAVE U SEEN THIS POV????? http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=198&&offset=0&..
i watched and thats not cheat nubs :).
ClanBase admin sucks, hes just noob dont know how to play cs. I saw and heard everything in that demo... CB admin noob = CB suckas!
2012-02-14 19:26:03
but there was a strange thing in console saying pizdec and logoff all the time...
2012-02-14 19:26:53
:OO
2012-02-14 20:04:48
Simple wall hack ? HaHaHaHaHa ?

FUCKING CHEATER FUCKING LOW FUCKING KID
2012-02-14 20:09:15
simpla wall hack hhhh ... not cheat juste wh fucking low
2012-02-14 20:23:51
coloN bans Clan-Base @_@
2012-02-14 21:38:57
he's a cheater and low iq
2012-02-14 21:48:34
+1
2012-02-14 22:29:00
o_O
2012-02-14 23:23:39
Norway = noobs
2012-02-15 00:44:38
Denmark = noboobs
2012-02-15 01:12:47
i dont think so :D
2012-02-15 01:22:23
INTERNET HERO :D
2012-02-15 07:06:46
zaider, colon ... same shit =DDD fckng kids
2012-02-15 07:16:37
Do you really think he was only one using cheats? Please...
2012-02-15 07:42:21
He deseved it (Y)
2012-02-15 17:09:22
he doesn't cheat imo, cb sucks anyway
2012-02-16 01:08:05
Another blind d*ckface?
2012-02-16 07:09:20
ahahah :d
2012-02-17 15:03:02
When i usually catch a cheater, guys who said he is not a cheater, were cheater themselves. So... ? I think i see many potential donkeys here.
2012-02-16 07:15:42
he looks like a dog
2012-02-17 00:30:51
just 1 question comes to my mind, why the hell we need 500k anticheat ?
2012-02-17 15:28:51
HAHAHA !
2012-02-17 15:30:18
coloN the best of internet
2012-02-18 18:23:12
Pernamently banned this fucking loser.Colon make CS1.6 - sucks !

DIE FUCKING DOGYFACE , children ;@
2012-08-30 19:37:36

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