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ESL TV #1
Isn't PC gaming dead?
By: Martin
Time: 2012-02-21 14:13
Does PC gaming need a doctor? Does it need an undertaker? German gaming manufacturer ROCCAT
challenges fans to give opinions and launches countdown leading to big Announcement.
Does PC gaming need a doctor? Does it need an undertaker? German gaming manufacturer challenges fans to give opinions and launches countdown leading to big Announcement.
With the headline "Isn't PC Gaming Dead?" emblazoned across the screen, German gaming peripherals manufacturer, ROCCAT Studios, today unveiled a website where they ask for fans’ opinions on the state of PC gaming.
"With all the talk lately, you'd think PC gaming was over. Some say PC gaming isn't dead, but think they need to breathe new life into it now and then with yet another 'groundbreaking' reinvention. But is all that necessary? Does PC gaming need a doctor? Does it need an undertaker?"
Says René Korte, ROCCAT™ Founder and CEO:
"We hope to get gamers thinking about where things are headed for PC gaming. Certain gaming peripheral companies constantly announce that they've come up with the 'Next Big Thing' that's going to reinvent things. But does PC gaming really need revolution? Or, rather, is evolution the way forward? We, as always, have our own ideas. And very soon we’re going to show the world a new and exciting one."
Visitors are invited to give feedback via an on-screen entry form, and ROCCAT™ will post many of the answers on the site for users to read and discuss.
ROCCAT's site also features a countdown clock ticking off the number of days until the company announces what they think "is the smartest way forward for PC gaming."
For more information about the presslease read here.
pc great
Post edited 2012-02-21 14:13:56
Post edited 2012-02-21 14:13:56
2012-02-21 14:13:46
PC is the best! And I think the reason is quite obvious: a keyboard and mouse is a superior input device to a console controller.
I will explain it simply: When you use a console controller to aim, you have to worry about the direction you push the analog stick, as well as how far and for how long you push the analog stick in that direction.
On the other hand, when using a mouse to aim, you simply move your mouse to a spot on your mousepad that corresponds to a spot on your screen. That's it. It doesn't matter how fast or slow you move your mouse, and you don't have to balance your own force against a spring-loaded mechanism in order to control speed.
All of this being said, console gaming is much, much more popular. I think this is for two reasons: 1) [popular] console gaming has been around for longer 2) Console gaming is cheaper.
Console gaming can be traced back to the Magnavox Odyssey in the early 1970’s. “PC gaming” as we know it – at least on the large scale – didn’t appear until the late 80’s or early 90’s. And remember, back then only a small amount of people had contact with computers in their daily lives.
In addition to getting a late start, PC gaming costs a lot of money. You have to spend a minimum of $500 to get a system that will play current games, and you will likely have to spend a couple hundred dollars on upgrades every year (a new graphics card here, cpu there, the occasional system overhaul when socket-type changes). Consoles, on the other hand, cost an initial $200-500 depending on the type and are guaranteed to play new games for at least five years. Getting into PC gaming requires a considerably larger dedication of money.
tldr; PC gaming is better than console, but console gaming is more popular and will continue to be in the future.
I will explain it simply: When you use a console controller to aim, you have to worry about the direction you push the analog stick, as well as how far and for how long you push the analog stick in that direction.
On the other hand, when using a mouse to aim, you simply move your mouse to a spot on your mousepad that corresponds to a spot on your screen. That's it. It doesn't matter how fast or slow you move your mouse, and you don't have to balance your own force against a spring-loaded mechanism in order to control speed.
All of this being said, console gaming is much, much more popular. I think this is for two reasons: 1) [popular] console gaming has been around for longer 2) Console gaming is cheaper.
Console gaming can be traced back to the Magnavox Odyssey in the early 1970’s. “PC gaming” as we know it – at least on the large scale – didn’t appear until the late 80’s or early 90’s. And remember, back then only a small amount of people had contact with computers in their daily lives.
In addition to getting a late start, PC gaming costs a lot of money. You have to spend a minimum of $500 to get a system that will play current games, and you will likely have to spend a couple hundred dollars on upgrades every year (a new graphics card here, cpu there, the occasional system overhaul when socket-type changes). Consoles, on the other hand, cost an initial $200-500 depending on the type and are guaranteed to play new games for at least five years. Getting into PC gaming requires a considerably larger dedication of money.
tldr; PC gaming is better than console, but console gaming is more popular and will continue to be in the future.
2012-02-21 17:42:35
i love pc gaming and agree that keyboard/mouse are superior, but consoles have a VERY strong following who all seem to think a controller is the only way to go
Post edited 2012-02-21 18:25:06
Post edited 2012-02-21 18:25:06
2012-02-21 18:24:55
Now if only they would add full mouse and keyboard support to consoles... Which unfortunately they won't do because of previous tests in cross platform games have shown the console gamers can't compete with the PC mouse and keyboard users.
The downside to online pc gaming is definitely the cheating though. On console it's so much easier to find and permanently ban a cheaters console since the consoles all use the same hardware and software and they have to modify one of those in order to cheat.
I think the best possibility for gaming in the future would be consoles with full mouse and keyboard support since cheaters are easier to get rid of and almost nonexistent. Oh and of course dedicated servers would be nice especially on xbox live since they already charge money for the service.
Post edited 2012-02-22 01:04:00
The downside to online pc gaming is definitely the cheating though. On console it's so much easier to find and permanently ban a cheaters console since the consoles all use the same hardware and software and they have to modify one of those in order to cheat.
I think the best possibility for gaming in the future would be consoles with full mouse and keyboard support since cheaters are easier to get rid of and almost nonexistent. Oh and of course dedicated servers would be nice especially on xbox live since they already charge money for the service.
Post edited 2012-02-22 01:04:00
2012-02-22 01:00:41
Yes :(
2012-02-21 14:16:40
PC>ALL CONSOLE
2012-02-21 14:16:44
+1
2012-02-21 14:22:43
Mobile > PC
:D
:D
2012-02-21 14:31:44
in school maybe :D
2012-02-21 14:56:17
doodle jump :D
2012-02-21 15:18:51
+1
2012-02-21 14:56:13
agree
2012-02-21 15:27:51
+1
2012-02-21 16:02:30
+1
2012-02-21 17:25:25
+1
2012-02-22 01:26:14
PC gaming will never be dead for FPS games :D
2012-02-21 14:18:13
+1
2012-02-21 14:19:16
+1
2012-02-21 14:56:31
Stupid question.
Probably just a marketing thing.
Probably just a marketing thing.
2012-02-21 14:19:05
Not just probably. It is a marketing thing!
2012-02-21 14:24:50
Sure.
2012-02-21 14:52:06
u don't say?
2012-02-21 14:41:47
PC is the way!
2012-02-21 14:19:11
NO LOL.
2012-02-21 14:19:54
pc better graphics i guess
2012-02-21 14:21:29
it is funny
there is more PC gamer than console gamer
there is more PC gamer than console gamer
2012-02-21 14:22:39
How can you even say that without no facts or evidence to back it up?
2012-02-21 17:21:19
XBOX, PS, PSP, Nintendo (all), sux
2012-02-21 14:23:35
Surely you haven't had any of these ;o These consoles have amazing games.
Post edited 2012-02-21 16:09:03
Post edited 2012-02-21 16:09:03
2012-02-21 16:07:47
With the millions in game's market? It's dead for sure =)) Crazy PR from ROCCAT =)
2012-02-21 14:24:39
It would be nice if you guys actually read the news instead of reading just the title. You can't blame Martin, tho!
2012-02-21 14:26:05
What are u talking about, PC will never die!!
2012-02-21 14:27:03
YEAH!
2012-02-21 14:34:19
is someone still playing with consoles? i thought it died out after the era of nintendo 8bit
2012-02-21 14:31:51
Console gaming vastly outnumbers PC in many countries, U.S. included. It's hard to find someone who doesn't have a console in the U.S., as poor as they might be. As a necessity, it's nearly equivalent to owning a television. A few years ago over 30 million homes already had one.
U.K. is actually the country with the highest percentage of people playing console these days.
Germany has the highest pc gaming percentage, in case anyone's curious. UK, France, and Germany combined, the three biggest Euro markets, only represent 2/3rds of the U.S. market for gaming, though.
...don't blame me. The last console I bought was a Gamecube for Smash Bros :P
U.K. is actually the country with the highest percentage of people playing console these days.
Germany has the highest pc gaming percentage, in case anyone's curious. UK, France, and Germany combined, the three biggest Euro markets, only represent 2/3rds of the U.S. market for gaming, though.
...don't blame me. The last console I bought was a Gamecube for Smash Bros :P
2012-02-21 16:09:48
we don't care about US.
2012-02-21 17:18:18
Americans are one of the few that can buy games and support game developers and are not poor like most of the world mate.
2012-02-21 19:01:44
well in 10 years when americas economy is screwed up even more than it already is, they will be like africa..
2012-02-21 19:36:06
yeah right... you can continue believing that...
2012-02-21 21:19:03
anyone with ample knowledge of markets or economics knows that all (most) developed markets are linked together.
europe felt the effects of our housing crisis.
we are feeling effects of the euro and current debt crisis.
if europe finds itself in a housing crisis the whole world will suffer (immensely).
Currencies are linked. Economies are linked. So,if your theory is correct we are all fucked. :)
europe felt the effects of our housing crisis.
we are feeling effects of the euro and current debt crisis.
if europe finds itself in a housing crisis the whole world will suffer (immensely).
Currencies are linked. Economies are linked. So,if your theory is correct we are all fucked. :)
2012-02-21 23:30:21
We should all buy 1.6 on xbox 360.
Its probably a mousepad or a new hp..
Its probably a mousepad or a new hp..
2012-02-21 14:34:04
singleplayer games on console, multiplayer games on pc.
2012-02-21 14:36:54
pc best than console
2012-02-21 14:37:16
English better than Portugal
2012-02-21 16:30:57
hahah tell me how to play FPS on console ??? IT SUCKS everybody knows that FPS games are for mouse an keybord. Maybe some arcade games and games like tekken are good for consoles.
good gaming PC > all consoles in graphic memory and speed
good gaming PC > all consoles in graphic memory and speed
2012-02-21 14:37:43
PC gaming is the only gaming for me :S other consols are not entertaining to me at all
2012-02-21 14:40:24
ohh yes, consoles are better,,, With AUTO-AIM totally competitive .. YEAH.
2012-02-21 14:44:22
In most multiplayer game modes auto aim is forced to off. ;o
2012-02-21 16:05:55
And that's why cs 1.6 is not on Console!! :) c'mon Consoles are for people who cannot afford a gaming pc on witch you can play some battlefield 3, consoles cost about 300$ a very good gaming pc costs aprox - 1500$. So yeah.
2012-02-21 16:14:52
There is cs 1.6/czero mix on xbox and believe me it's really fun ;-). Too bad LIVE services are closed forever, bots only now ; d.
I must disagree, games on consoles are MUCH more expensive to afford and prices (in poland) are very high even half year after release. I buy my games (i'm not a pirate :D) at allegro [polish ebay like]. You can have a decent pc (just don't buy it at store heh) for a two consoles price not 5x and games are extremely cheap after one or two months. So money argument is kinda wrong here.
Post edited 2012-02-21 16:24:09
I must disagree, games on consoles are MUCH more expensive to afford and prices (in poland) are very high even half year after release. I buy my games (i'm not a pirate :D) at allegro [polish ebay like]. You can have a decent pc (just don't buy it at store heh) for a two consoles price not 5x and games are extremely cheap after one or two months. So money argument is kinda wrong here.
Post edited 2012-02-21 16:24:09
2012-02-21 16:23:41
Well, The only games i have bought are cs 1.6 / Modern Warfare 3 That's it, i have illegally downloaded the rest, and you can download games for consoles too, so its cheaper, and, if you're like maybe 13-15 years old You don't have cash and your parents buy stuff for you, so you don't lose, and they buy gaming consoles for you, cuz c'mon who the hell wants to pay 1500$ :D if you can buy some crap for 300$?
2012-02-21 16:35:18
I know you can pirate on consoles, but i just don't want to ;-) [and you are risking a ban with updates - xbox360]. On all my consoles i had originals, on PC not quite hehehe.
2012-02-21 16:42:22
You don't have to pay 1.500$. Today, i can buy a pc with 400$ for COD MW3,BF3.
Also you can improve your pc anytime. New graphics cards are enough reason to buy pc. you can't do this in console.
Also, CS:GO is a mainly console game. Valve made it for consoles.
Also you can improve your pc anytime. New graphics cards are enough reason to buy pc. you can't do this in console.
Also, CS:GO is a mainly console game. Valve made it for consoles.
2012-02-21 20:18:27
"and, if you're like maybe 13-15 years old You don't have cash and your parents buy stuff for you" said by 16 year old hahahahaha who works and buys stuff all by himself :DD sure burgerking
stop acting like an adult and teaching people older than u if you are still a teenager.
Post edited 2012-02-21 20:38:58
stop acting like an adult and teaching people older than u if you are still a teenager.
Post edited 2012-02-21 20:38:58
2012-02-21 20:37:08
LOL that's a blatant razer ripoff...
2012-02-21 14:45:36
Console gaming is better.
But PC gaming is too far from death :)
But PC gaming is too far from death :)
2012-02-21 14:53:57
R-O-F-L
2012-02-21 15:03:45
It is better dude, just put disc in your drive and you are ready to go, no worry about anything till the end of support by developers.
2012-02-21 16:10:58
yea ofc, no RAM, VGA, system or other problem. Just put the disc and play
2012-02-21 17:17:45
Never had problems with RAM or VGA that would be caused by anything else than buying the cheaper option.
Sure, PC gaming costs more than console gaming. And installing the games on consoles OFTEN (not always) is easier than on PCs.
But console games come with problems creating, for example, your own mods or dedicated servers.
Sure, PC gaming costs more than console gaming. And installing the games on consoles OFTEN (not always) is easier than on PCs.
But console games come with problems creating, for example, your own mods or dedicated servers.
2012-02-23 09:18:11
Think about that, its year 2008, I buy Xbox 360 (350$) and you buy Gaming PC (700$).
After 4 years, its 2012, I'm still playing latest releases without any upgrade. But your processor is old, VGA is weak and doesn't support directx 11 and other problems.
get it?
After 4 years, its 2012, I'm still playing latest releases without any upgrade. But your processor is old, VGA is weak and doesn't support directx 11 and other problems.
get it?
2012-02-23 10:04:42
I have a computer that was built with 500$~ in 2008, bought a new video card 2 months ago (70$) because the old one broke.
Still can play MW2 with 50~90fps (which is the same your TV displays) without problems (and I dont even play MW2).
Yes, my old video card didn't support dx11, but I got it cheap.
I can nicely browse through internet, do my work stuff on my PC and still use programs to chat while not switching to another computer.
And what are those other problems?
Still can play MW2 with 50~90fps (which is the same your TV displays) without problems (and I dont even play MW2).
Yes, my old video card didn't support dx11, but I got it cheap.
I can nicely browse through internet, do my work stuff on my PC and still use programs to chat while not switching to another computer.
And what are those other problems?
2012-02-23 10:15:09
Like i care about that. Pc gaming will always be better and bigger.
2012-02-21 20:18:47
I dont wanna play shit somehow console games on PC. Pc is more powerfull than shit consoles. Stop making games for consoles, make for PCs.
2012-02-21 14:54:36
Don't look at games only with terms of graphics and you should be happy to get these games, because most of them are exclusives or time exclusives for consoles. Plus system requirements are "stuck" you don't need to upgrade PC to play them without performance issues.
Post edited 2012-02-21 16:14:18
Post edited 2012-02-21 16:14:18
2012-02-21 16:12:55
We cant see the real graphics bcoz of console's shit hardware. Yeah i may have to upgrade my PC for every 2 or 3 years, even more short time for graphic card, but eventually it gives me more beauty and more quality games.
2012-02-21 20:18:28
You mean more quantity games not quality ;-). You're graphics whore say it ;D
2012-02-21 22:29:44
No actually not only graphics, for example GTA 4. It's fully console game and its PC version just ported from PC and has a lot fo problems. For example u cant select high level on graphics if u dont have 1 gb graphics card even if u have not so enough. But console's graphic processors are not so great if u compare them with PCs.
Also, PC is more powerfull for consoles. It was, is, and always will be. Also another example, on BF3, you cant play with 64 players on consoles bcoz consoles cant effort it.
Also, PC is more powerfull for consoles. It was, is, and always will be. Also another example, on BF3, you cant play with 64 players on consoles bcoz consoles cant effort it.
2012-02-22 00:29:09
Dude and yet again you're talking about graphics OMG. Remember - because it's powerful doesn't mean it's better
2012-02-22 00:42:43
Dude, ofc i'm talking about graphics. Do you wanna still playing on mario graphics? Dont think so.
2012-02-22 11:07:30
Nope, but graphics are not terrible like in 8bit era, another bad example ;-).
Post edited 2012-02-22 12:33:06
Post edited 2012-02-22 12:33:06
2012-02-22 12:31:49
Yeah bad example like 64 players vs 32 players, right?
2012-02-22 12:43:28
After playing 64 mode in PC, i don't want to going back to that random chaos. This game is soo casual and random. So for me it doesn't matter, it's DICE fault they could do it, but they they did not want. Watch some vlogs from their blog... and btw. multiplayer doesn't end on BF3 ;-).
Post edited 2012-02-22 13:36:38
Post edited 2012-02-22 13:36:38
2012-02-22 13:35:50
I give you another example, MMORPG, Strategy games. Really? Dont make me laugh kiddle.
2012-02-22 14:13:18
pc against all consols :)
2012-02-21 15:03:43
LOL if Pc gaming is dead, console gaming was never born
2012-02-21 15:04:04
Its like asking if Tenis is dying thinking about table tenis supremacy. Derp
2012-02-21 15:04:12
3D mice? If this is plan of Roccat then they are going to fail.
2012-02-21 15:08:08
5 pro PC fps gamers VS 5 pro xbox/ps3 fps gamers
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PC gamers win for sure. Pc gamers got the fastest aiming because a mouse would aim faster on the target compared to a ps3/xbox controll (if we compare a pro vs a pro for example). So why would it be dead? + It's only NOOBS or incompetent people who thinks that the best games are based on graphics. WELL, it's not. It's all about gameplay, and PC is the winner, without a doubt.
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PC gamers win for sure. Pc gamers got the fastest aiming because a mouse would aim faster on the target compared to a ps3/xbox controll (if we compare a pro vs a pro for example). So why would it be dead? + It's only NOOBS or incompetent people who thinks that the best games are based on graphics. WELL, it's not. It's all about gameplay, and PC is the winner, without a doubt.
2012-02-21 15:08:49
PC can improve itself. New AMAZING GRAPHICS CARDS are enought to show how much PC bigger than CONSOLE.
2012-02-21 15:10:25
I can play games on consoles only for fun, but when it comes to gaming, PC > ALL. :)
2012-02-21 15:17:57
Most dumbest thing which I heard this year. PC gaming dead ? lol'd
2012-02-21 15:18:40
5 years ago the prize poll was lot bigger than now for 1.6. It's pretty obvious...
2012-02-21 15:24:20
console cheaper way go buy a used xbox 360 and u can play all ure games with no problem as for computer if you play never games you might have to buy a whole new computer or change some components thats why i play the never games on console but i must say pc>console in gameplay but i dont have the money to buy new graphics card/motherboard/ram
console>pc for that cause. 1-1
console>pc for that cause. 1-1
2012-02-21 15:26:41
PC is the master. The Matrix Program was on a PC for fks'sake. PC's rule. Who disagrees is a sad kid who instead of getting a PC as a child recieved a PS/xbox/ or whatever is it called.
And I'm not sure, but I guess you can't watch porn on PlayStation.. So what does the little kid do? Play, get fat and die. No man, PC all the way..
And I'm not sure, but I guess you can't watch porn on PlayStation.. So what does the little kid do? Play, get fat and die. No man, PC all the way..
2012-02-21 15:27:52
wow what a lame way to market yourself (roccat) ffs, all big games that are featured at big events are on pc, how can it be dead.
This is the lamest way marketing yourself ROCCAT, you should be ashamed!
Post edited 2012-02-21 15:28:54
This is the lamest way marketing yourself ROCCAT, you should be ashamed!
Post edited 2012-02-21 15:28:54
2012-02-21 15:28:39
gaming consoles? no, never heard of such a thing.
2012-02-21 15:45:12
haahah +1000
2012-02-21 16:03:07
MOUSE AND KEYBORD Vs. joystick
cmon dude
ITS LIKE A LEBRON JAMES Vs. FAT STUPID KID
cmon dude
ITS LIKE A LEBRON JAMES Vs. FAT STUPID KID
2012-02-21 16:01:06
PC > LAPTOP > CONSOLE
2012-02-21 16:01:31
Just cause Call of Duty is more popular on the xbox does not at all mean PC gaming is dead.
Once CS:GO comes out, and the PC vs Console wars start, console gamers will get that destroyed that they will have no choice but to come to PC gaming.
Once CS:GO comes out, and the PC vs Console wars start, console gamers will get that destroyed that they will have no choice but to come to PC gaming.
2012-02-21 16:16:12
As much as I like your opinion, I find it very hard to believe that CS:GO has any chance of competing against COD, Plus, GO is majorly meant for consoles than PC.
2012-02-21 16:25:12
i hope you are right and that all the dumb kids from cs will switch to CoD!!! GO fails, we'll stick to 1.6 for a while then i get my degree start working,married and bye bye life xD
2012-02-22 10:11:02
LOL, fair enough.
2012-02-22 11:48:27
CS GO wont have success.
2012-02-21 16:25:22
PC/PS2/THC= my life
2012-02-21 16:27:34
Okay, essay incoming.
Lets start at the beginning, first of all PC gaming is far from dead if you look at big title games such as but not limited to: Starcraft2, World of Warcraft, Counter-Strike, Warcraft3(Dota), Dota2(steam), League of Legends, HoN (i believe still has a large following I believe?), and many more I can't think of off the top of my head. These games are the cornerstone for a huge market and a variety of gamers and genres.
The argument for console gaming is simply that it's much more casual than many PC games, PC games are very difficult and take time to master which doesn't cater to the ladder of the crowd buying such games. PC games mark the evolution and competitive spirit that games have come to be. Going home and turning on any TV even an old one is irrelevant because the system is simply all that matters which is what makes console gaming so huge because it's much more affordable. High-grade PC's don't come cheap and in a crisis like we're in we'll see a lot more console play because people can't just simply go out and buy the perfect PC.
The number of dedicated PC gamers is the real number that matters. Not the number of players playing these games, because we're here to stay where as console gamers bounce from game to game which leads to faster releases of the same basic game and in turn sometimes makes or breaks the game. PC gaming is just simply not as easy but much more lucrative. The people playing PC games that are dedicated will be able to play almost any game and have a great understanding of what the common goal and outlook is, where as a console gamer simply wont. We're much more versatile and remember a lot of PC gamers are apart of the number of console gamers too.
There is nothing wrong with playing on a console vs a PC, but like I said in a crisis it's just much more affordable, it's much easier to just hop on and play a simple casual game, and it's much easier to play with all your friends in the same room with a console having split screens etc.. and it's EXTREMELY easier to bring a small system you can put in a backpack around. Gamers have a lot of specifics they need such as but not limited to: Mouse, Keyboard, Tower, (Monitor usually) Good internet connection, and a router setup and ready to go, Headphones, plus hooking your computer up. It just becomes a hassle to play with all your friends on a daily basis. This also makes us superior players because we need such perfect setups to play at the level we want to. I can't just turn on a computer and open the options menu and destroy everyone.
Another issue that comes with console gaming is that it is very cluttered with young kids who's parents think that the being on the computer all day is evil yet sitting in front of a TV is somehow better?
To my last point, being professional or on a team, There is MUCH more money in PC gaming for one sheer reason, PC gamers are much more dedicated and love to watch their favorite players, a console gamer generally could give a crap about great players, they just want to play for a few hours to pass the time.
I think console gaming is fun but PC gaming will always remain superior in the dedication of fans/players, professionals, skill, games, and the versatility in general of using a mouse a keyboard and the options that are available on a PC.
PC gaming for life. <3 Love you hltv.org
Lets start at the beginning, first of all PC gaming is far from dead if you look at big title games such as but not limited to: Starcraft2, World of Warcraft, Counter-Strike, Warcraft3(Dota), Dota2(steam), League of Legends, HoN (i believe still has a large following I believe?), and many more I can't think of off the top of my head. These games are the cornerstone for a huge market and a variety of gamers and genres.
The argument for console gaming is simply that it's much more casual than many PC games, PC games are very difficult and take time to master which doesn't cater to the ladder of the crowd buying such games. PC games mark the evolution and competitive spirit that games have come to be. Going home and turning on any TV even an old one is irrelevant because the system is simply all that matters which is what makes console gaming so huge because it's much more affordable. High-grade PC's don't come cheap and in a crisis like we're in we'll see a lot more console play because people can't just simply go out and buy the perfect PC.
The number of dedicated PC gamers is the real number that matters. Not the number of players playing these games, because we're here to stay where as console gamers bounce from game to game which leads to faster releases of the same basic game and in turn sometimes makes or breaks the game. PC gaming is just simply not as easy but much more lucrative. The people playing PC games that are dedicated will be able to play almost any game and have a great understanding of what the common goal and outlook is, where as a console gamer simply wont. We're much more versatile and remember a lot of PC gamers are apart of the number of console gamers too.
There is nothing wrong with playing on a console vs a PC, but like I said in a crisis it's just much more affordable, it's much easier to just hop on and play a simple casual game, and it's much easier to play with all your friends in the same room with a console having split screens etc.. and it's EXTREMELY easier to bring a small system you can put in a backpack around. Gamers have a lot of specifics they need such as but not limited to: Mouse, Keyboard, Tower, (Monitor usually) Good internet connection, and a router setup and ready to go, Headphones, plus hooking your computer up. It just becomes a hassle to play with all your friends on a daily basis. This also makes us superior players because we need such perfect setups to play at the level we want to. I can't just turn on a computer and open the options menu and destroy everyone.
Another issue that comes with console gaming is that it is very cluttered with young kids who's parents think that the being on the computer all day is evil yet sitting in front of a TV is somehow better?
To my last point, being professional or on a team, There is MUCH more money in PC gaming for one sheer reason, PC gamers are much more dedicated and love to watch their favorite players, a console gamer generally could give a crap about great players, they just want to play for a few hours to pass the time.
I think console gaming is fun but PC gaming will always remain superior in the dedication of fans/players, professionals, skill, games, and the versatility in general of using a mouse a keyboard and the options that are available on a PC.
PC gaming for life. <3 Love you hltv.org
2012-02-21 16:41:19
LOOOOOOOOOOOL
Bego said Hello!
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Bego said Hello!
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2012-02-21 16:51:48
1 FACT: YOU CAN'T PLAY FPS ON ANY CONSOLE AS GOOD AS YOU CAN ON COMPUTER ! ! ! Mouse is the most accurate for fps-s.
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FACT 2: YOU CAN'T PLAY RTS ON ANY CONSOLE AS GOOD AS YOU CAN ON COMPUTER ! ! ! Mouse is the most accurate for RTS-s.
FACT 3: YOU CAN'T PLAY MMORPG ON ANY CONSOLE AS GOOD AS YOU CAN ON COMPUTER ! ! ! Mouse + keyboard are the best when chatting and spell binding is questioned.
So NO, PC gaming is and never will be dead!
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FACT 2: YOU CAN'T PLAY RTS ON ANY CONSOLE AS GOOD AS YOU CAN ON COMPUTER ! ! ! Mouse is the most accurate for RTS-s.
FACT 3: YOU CAN'T PLAY MMORPG ON ANY CONSOLE AS GOOD AS YOU CAN ON COMPUTER ! ! ! Mouse + keyboard are the best when chatting and spell binding is questioned.
So NO, PC gaming is and never will be dead!
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2012-02-21 16:58:04
No it is definitely not at all. Tbh consoles are only really popular here in the UK and in USA
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2012-02-21 16:58:14
cRaP!
2012-02-21 17:02:05
PC > console - only FPS games
Once you bought console you have it for 10 years and forget about minimal requirements ect.....
Once you bought console you have it for 10 years and forget about minimal requirements ect.....
2012-02-21 17:08:01
leeroy kurton :D
2012-02-21 17:08:34
Some of you think its hard to play FPS games on consoles. Really? Then auto aim is for you :)
2012-02-21 17:22:21
I thought PC Gaming was an organization (like SK Gaming)
2012-02-21 17:35:48
Martin
y u so troll CS community?
y u so troll CS community?
2012-02-21 17:39:50
nope sorry
2012-02-21 17:43:33
Gabe newell will disagree with him
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2011/0228/technology-..
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http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2011/0228/technology-..
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2012-02-21 17:51:43
This again? Razer already did this and announced some shitty overpriced laptop.
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2012-02-21 17:51:48
sc2, cs1.6, lol and dota. pc gaming dead? looooooooooooooooooooool
2012-02-21 17:56:01
i like nintendo 64 mario?
2012-02-21 18:09:33
PC gaming isn't dead but its expensive as fcuk to run the new games on high settings, that's why most ppl turn to consoles; a cheap, fun alternative. And a lot of ppl want to use there big led tvs to game, not a monitor. I know you can use those big tvs as monitors but they just take up too much space because u need a desk for your mouse + keyboard.
2012-02-21 18:10:42
right on the money!
2012-02-21 18:39:05
No I don't think that is dead or it needs an undertaker.PC Gaming its on a amazing condition :D
2012-02-21 18:14:46
No srry pc gaming isnt dead... 1.6 for life;D
2012-02-21 18:24:45
Suuure...Playing FIFA is perfect for XBOX or PS or whatever .. Suuuuure racing games like NFS etc. are perfect for XBOX or PS.. But excuuuse me the FPS games are MADE FOR A MOUSE AND A KEYBOARD. Seriously... playing a game like CS on a joystick is funny.. I am sure that when you get used to it once you get good, but there is no chance that you can get better than when playing it on a PC .. I have the PS and the XBOX and i play games on them for fun never seriously and never a FPS or a shooting-like game just never. I don't think PC gaming is dead and will ever be.
2012-02-21 18:53:30
Sports and Racing games on console.
FPS, Strategy etc. on PC.
FPS, Strategy etc. on PC.
2012-02-21 19:01:10
confused... CS might be dying, but how is PC gaming dying? It makes sense that more people might play console, its easier, automatic plugNplay. plus, at least in the US, there is a lot of stigma around being a "nerd." PC gaming definitely doesn't get much respect in the US, like it does in Europe or especially a place like South Korea. PC gaming will expand as PC's become more and more accessible and easy to the "average" gamer. I mean honestly, FPS on console is awful, i don't care what dumb argument you make, or how "good" you and your friends are with those stix. They can't compare to a mouse and keyboard, and a monitor a foot in front of you. You are more in the game with PC gaming, when you are playing console, its kind of like watching ^^
2012-02-21 19:01:52
pc is better than all consoles, i had psx, ps2, psp, xbox advance, and it all sux(except PSX!XD), sold all, never gonna buy other console
2012-02-21 19:05:57
not even near dead,i love consoles,ps3 and xbox but its fun only with friends,PC rules
2012-02-21 19:12:51
isn't
2012-02-21 19:14:57
the new product is a mousepad with a built in touch sensitive mouse-sort-of-thing :<<< you heard it here first
2012-02-21 19:37:35
PC GAMING > ALL
2012-02-21 19:44:01
Roccat can be sure they're going to sell their products more than ever after this stupid movement.
2012-02-21 20:22:08
Seems like they are just copying razer's advertising strategy from late last year.
2012-02-21 20:29:53
the only diffirence but the biggest between pc and console is
pc is constantly evolving, you always need a bigger and better pc when console isn't evolving that fast
i bought 2 games and both don't even work on my computer cause he's too old
pc is constantly evolving, you always need a bigger and better pc when console isn't evolving that fast
i bought 2 games and both don't even work on my computer cause he's too old
2012-02-21 20:51:07
considering consoles use technology of pc's,the answer is HELL to the fuckin NO :D
2012-02-21 20:59:36
ESEA friends already published an article on the CS1.6 saying he was overtaken, killed, for us to migrate pro cs: go ...... now appears saying that one of these games pc so dead ... for us to migrate ps3 or xbox pro and others of the time ... if he had killed a tavam going to, and in all events
2012-02-21 21:15:15
1.6 > console > pc
2012-02-21 21:24:50
PC>ALL CONSOLE
2012-02-21 21:32:19
ROCCAT confirmed for clueless. Is this even worth a news post? Oh wait it's just advertising. Noone cares, move on.
2012-02-21 22:22:36
post this topic AGAiN in 2038 and PC will still rocks !!! maybe in 2293 you will have chances...maybe (when the people will live on moon without oxygen) PC>
2012-02-21 22:59:00
No, it isn't.
2012-02-21 23:18:28
for me Xbox is cool but PC games are still the best
2012-02-21 23:25:55
+100
2012-02-22 00:56:37
Why would I care if it's dead or not? As long as I can still play..
2012-02-21 23:56:23
Consoles are limited. PC can be used for many purposes and is A LOT cheaper. The only reason I see to have a console is that Wii thing.
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2012-02-22 00:18:15
PC GAMING > ALL
2012-02-22 00:57:06
ROCCAT NEW MOUSE AND KB TO SAVE DAY AND MAKE PC GAMING THE BESTEST AGAIN!
2012-02-22 01:14:00
in my opinion there are 'bester' mice than roccat's ones out there :)
2012-02-22 01:44:05
This is roccat-thread.
Your opinion isn't valuable. Please go buy a new Roccat mouse and keyboard so you can save PC gaming.
Your opinion isn't valuable. Please go buy a new Roccat mouse and keyboard so you can save PC gaming.
2012-02-23 10:03:15
such discussions and topics are pointless. Consoles are not ever to overcome pc with functionality. Consoles are created mostly for entertainment. You cant work on a console properly. And what for games, I think pc is better but its my opinion. I know millions of people are used to controllers and buy consoles so they couldnt care about tech. specifications for new games anymore. I still feel kind of upset that most fightings and cool arcades are released only on consoles. Moreover there are loads of cool exclusives on consoles. But there are also nice exclusives on pc and afterall console owners wont ever see a proper RTS on PS and Xbox because the controllers arent really comfy for that. So the situation in gaming is quite different and depends on personal preferences. Btw its quite hard for me to play FPS online on consoles and I cant get used to the controller in those shooters. The experience is absolutely different playing on consoles and on pc. Try yourself and decide!
But again consoles and pc can be only compared from the point of view of gaming experience, other than this is pointless to discuss I assume :)
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But again consoles and pc can be only compared from the point of view of gaming experience, other than this is pointless to discuss I assume :)
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2012-02-22 01:39:37
STEAM is the largest gaming platform on earth. Simple as.
XBox Live and PSN are both smaller by many millions.
Of course an enormous number of people will have a STEAM account and one or maybe both of the others, or maybe have an XBox live account and a PSn account, but flat out, STEAM is larger.
Of course this doesn't take into account the fact that both 360 and PS3 are outnumbered by the Wii, but most who say PC gaming is dead are not owners of a Wii.
XBox Live and PSN are both smaller by many millions.
Of course an enormous number of people will have a STEAM account and one or maybe both of the others, or maybe have an XBox live account and a PSn account, but flat out, STEAM is larger.
Of course this doesn't take into account the fact that both 360 and PS3 are outnumbered by the Wii, but most who say PC gaming is dead are not owners of a Wii.
2012-02-22 02:27:50
why bother getting a concsole,when u can have on a good set up'ed gaming pc any emulator and any game u want FREE,plus the internet games and all the other stuff that a pc provides u
for me console gaming died with ps1.
for me console gaming died with ps1.
2012-02-22 02:54:07
i just think people need to let cs 1.6 die and move onto another game. it's like the kid who still sleeps with his blankie.
2012-02-22 03:57:23
and pc is the lead runner for gaming systems, but it's arrogant to say console takes no skill. if anything. console takes more skill because with a game like mw3 it's harder to be more precise with a analog stick then it is to be precise with a mouse.
2012-02-22 03:59:18
Of course PC gaming is dying i wouldnt say its "dead" yet but around 2006/07 consoles just took over, especially here in the USA I would say at least 7/10 people who play competitive play on 360 or ps3, back in like 2004 I would easily have said more people played competitive on PC. Listen consoles are cheaper, easier, mobile, etc. Yes the PC has better graphics and such but kids growing up with consoles not PC's and dont have the cash to spend to buy a top-end PC, consoles are just more convienent, the only thing keeping consoles from completely taking over is their league/tournament structure and sponsors.
IMO the future of gaming is simple, PC's will be exclusively for MMO's and consoles will take over FPS, sports, etc. Once they can figure out how to play MMO's on consoles I guarentee PC gaming will be a distant shadow. Anyway when you start asking "IS PC GAMING DEAD" its already dead, just sayingg
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IMO the future of gaming is simple, PC's will be exclusively for MMO's and consoles will take over FPS, sports, etc. Once they can figure out how to play MMO's on consoles I guarentee PC gaming will be a distant shadow. Anyway when you start asking "IS PC GAMING DEAD" its already dead, just sayingg
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2012-02-22 06:19:35
Really? Consoles will take over FPS? Not in a thousand years buddy. Consoles will NEVER be the same as PC when it comes to FPS.
2012-02-22 12:20:06
how can you call an consoles games in any given way competitive? mlg? good joke :D consoles will take the fps scene over? yeah auto aim on the console is pretty competivite :D
kids mostly play on consoles. exactly!. where do you expect the competitive part come around that?
yeah pc gaming is dead right. beside that there are just 2 console tournaments in one year(mlg and wcg). pc gaming with tons of tournaments every month cant compete with that true.
no wonder why americans always suck competitive games
Post edited 2012-02-23 06:13:59
kids mostly play on consoles. exactly!. where do you expect the competitive part come around that?
yeah pc gaming is dead right. beside that there are just 2 console tournaments in one year(mlg and wcg). pc gaming with tons of tournaments every month cant compete with that true.
no wonder why americans always suck competitive games
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2012-02-23 06:05:45
Uhhhhh stop this nonsense.
What does it matter if something is dead, dying, thriving or surviving. gross.
What does it matter if something is dead, dying, thriving or surviving. gross.
2012-02-22 08:10:22
Give me a break. They must have smoked some über strong joints or just looking for attention.
2012-02-22 08:30:31
nope!
2012-02-22 11:58:31
since ps3 would have mouse and keyboard compability, it will fight for the pc auditory
2012-02-22 14:14:41
and still 90% of the ps3 games dont support that :D
2012-02-23 06:05:01
I hate this cheap marketing coming from companies. Razer did something similar a while back...
2012-02-22 16:06:26
Pc is moddable(upgradeable in the sense) and so are pc games....gta4 with enb series etc. consoles aren't so they suck
2012-02-22 16:12:41
For a few years PC gaming is gonna be 'meh' then VR tech is gonna go mainstream.
2012-02-22 21:37:14
more people playing games on PC than any console or all of them combined by a long shot, people are just stupid
2012-02-23 04:20:26
This people are stupid?????? PC gaming DEAD???? OMFG just people that need us to buy ps and xbox ...
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2012-02-23 20:02:15
This can only come from a guy that has absolutely no idea about gaming.. The only place I'd take consoles over PC is games like Blaz Blue, Streetfighter, marvel vs capcom = Fighter games that usually aren't even made for PCs and if you want to play them properly on consoles you need a special stick, cause that default shit just doesn't cut it. That is the only type of games I'd chose consoles over PC and maybe driving games, but I'm not that familiar with that branch. PC GAMING = THE ONLY GAMING THAT MATTERS and actually needs SKILL and BRAIN... Playing FPS games on a console can be fun, but impossible for competitive gaming...
2012-02-25 15:25:20
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