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HLTV.org spoke to Moscow Five CEO Dima "ddd1ms" Smelyi about his team's displeasing trip to India Gaming Carnival.
How was Moscow Five's trip to India Gaming Carnival? Atrocious enough to make the Moscow Five boss fear for his players' safety and lives by the end of the event.
It was a clearly upset and shocked Smelyi HLTV.org spoke to when he was awaiting confirmation from the team's manager that the team had passed Delhi International airport's security gates.
Moscow Five, who were one of the two international teams in India, reached the tournament's semifinals. That was when the organizers decided to shut down the entire event.
The event itself was a disaster. It let people to believe it would be one of the year's biggest, spangled events, with well over $300,000 in the total prize pool for the featured games.
Reports just days before the event was schedule to kick off even said the event had been cancelled, checks had bounced and later on, during the event, computer tournaments had been called off.
Smelyi confessed he should have listened to advice given by fnatic and Natus Vincere officials, who told him to drop the Indian event.
"fnatic and Natus Vincere managers told me: "Dima, it's fake! Dont visit ICG 2012. I should have listened to them," he wrote in his blog.
Despite all this, India Gaming Carnival did take place, at least to some degree, but failed to an enormous extent to meet any of the expectations set by its organizers, WTF Eventz.
Why did Moscow Five not go any further than the semifinals? According to Smelyi, the organizers decided to call off the entire event, shutting down the venue's electricity in the process.
Smelyi furthermore informed HLTV.org that event officials disappeared from the scene and refused to accept their calls.
All of this happened after the organizers supposedly tried to delay the tournament so that Moscow Five could not play an eventual final, seeing as they had to catch their flight on April 9.
Smelyi, however, saw through the organizers' scheme and booked tickets for April 10, attempting to assure that his team would be able to play the tournament's final, which they were sure to reach.
By the time the organizers shut down the event, the extended return tickets to Moscow purchased by Smelyi turned out to be nothing but an additional expenditure. (approximately $2,900)
While all of this does not sound very life-threatening or the cause of fearing for someone's life, it was when the team returned to their hotel the situation became even more suspicious.
As the team and their manager were waiting for a taxi to take them to their hotel after the shutdown, they spotted four thug-like men who were paying attention to them, Smelyi said.
After getting in the taxi, the Moscow Five players saw the four men get in a car and followed them. The situation did not develop any further though, and the Russians eventually went to sleep.
However, Moscow Five's team manager stayed up and recorded this video, explaining some of what they had gone through.
Apparently, they were told that the organizers had nothing to do with the event abruptly shutting down and that it was out of their control, followed by several what seems to be empty promises.
Kushagra, who is the director of WTF Eventz, even told Moscow Five that they would compensate their expenses involved with traveling to India and a substantial amount of the first-place prize.
More specific, the organizers offered to cover Moscow Five $10,000 for their participation and reimburse $4,000 in travel expenses in return for not publishing footage of the venue being shut down.
The team had provided Kushagra with necessary contact information, such as hotel room numbers, e-mails and telephone numbers, and he promised to meet them later that day. He did not.
This is not the only recording Moscow Five made during their trip to India. They supposedly filmed a conversation with Kushagra himself, which is believed to be the reason for the thugs appearing.
Smelyi went on and said that when the team woke up, they realized that someone had broken into their rooms and robbed them for money and a 8GB memory stick with all the said footage on it.
The situation has taken a huge toll on Smelyi, who felt it was necessary to wait with telling this story before he knew his team and manager were in safety in the airport, en route Moscow.
The Moscow Five chief will, together with the team's manager, host a live stream this Friday about their experience, mainly in Russian, but with some questions and answers in English.
HLTV.org's coverage of India Gaming Carnival is not over as we have more breaking news to reveal.
Follow HLTV.org's Pus on Twitter.
Post edited 2012-04-10 01:51:22
Such a$$holes ruined the future of E-Sports in India! Now every1 hates us just coz of those 2 mofo's :|
you will get RAPED haha
Portugal: 23,204
India: 3,703
You clearly have no idea what poverty means.
Even if he were wrong, your argument is biased
Just take into account the costs of living, taxes and so on which are way different in these two countries
Conclusion: He may know poverty even though he's from Portugal
Also, note that the statistics I gave were adjusted for purchasing power parity, which means they take into account the cost of living (the nominal statistics are twice as bad).
He may know poverty, but those who know poverty in India know a far worse type. Even aside from aggregate personal income, European countries have a working social safety net which most third-world countries lack.
And these people, when they're outside of the classical path of European social safety (which are way different from one country to another), have a pretty harsh time living a decent life.
I wasn't agreeing with the pt guy at first, and I still don't.
Nice to see we can still talk without getting trolled on this site :)
But yes, of course there are factors other than the economy that contribute to public safety. But in India's case, economic factors are likely to play a much larger role than in Europe because poverty is just so extreme.
it means u English ppl are robbers
the robbed all our gold diamonds and many precious ornaments
That means that time this ENGLISH ppl were poor according to ur statement
He is really an asshole... Bastard
But thts just my opinion!
and sry fr replying u mate, i wanted every1 to see it!
Post edited 2012-04-10 10:32:18
Indian gamers beat up this man. he was 1 of the organizers
i mean, so many cs divisions shutting down, and they just lost 5~10k (?), and also the 28k they would get :|
2.It is funny bcuz of these Indians here, who said b4 the event that It's gonna be huge and powerful......
3.I'm not suprised
4.Funny
i even emailed their"sponsors" Pepsi and benq and they said they never even got any requests for sponsorship.
LOL :P
I'm not much of a countries guy, so i think this was a huge disgrace to esports in general. Last thing we need in the times like these.
Edit : Also, nice twitter plug at the end, Pus :P
Post edited 2012-04-10 01:57:51
And PRESS THE DAMN FOLLOW BUTTON ALREADY
And I do follow you. I'm @dishayu
ok, but realease it fast pls hehehe
edit: and except 6 russians.
Post edited 2012-04-10 03:35:00
seba sooo groso :D
that's how i'd summarize M5 to india!
This is a perfect example of how much Indians like to troll, @IRL and URL. Way 2 Go!
DONT
:NO:
Post edited 2012-04-10 02:11:25
I apologize Mr.Pus
I simply don't believe this, lol.
I just don't believe someone walked into their hotel room, stole their shit, and Moscow5 didn't wake up. I personally think it's a lie, although I'm not sure why they would lie about such a thing.
So senseless.
its' a country that has the same long history but i still fear to visit,
poor corupted country.
95% of the indians in hltv.org don't know how to speak english.
the argentinians here in hltv.org are way more easy to understand.
I know mi english is not perfect, but I never got any complain about it.
And besides, I made a joke about his English, saying that our "poor corrupted country" people (which I found offensive)are better when it comes to writing English compared to HIM (Not the other people of his country).
And then you reply saying, Its funny that an Indian is saying it and that shit doesnt fly by me. I got nothing against Argentina btw.
tht part is a total lie, dima in the video says tht " nw i shud end this video coz the memeory card is full" which proves tht their money and data wasnt stolen, this was the whole made up story by him just to flame more the alrdy flammed IGC thing!
so sad news....
As much as you'd call it immature to draw the line between our world and India, it's a fact that you would never get screwed over like that in the western or industrialized eastern world. It's a poor showing and is downright disrespectful to E-sports and the teams attending as a whole, if you as people let something like that happen in your country without punishment which let's be honest in your disorganized country nobody will be capable to realize, you don't deserve any respect.
My mother visits your country on a yearly basis to hold conferences on healthcare and based on stories and pictures I get a very negative view of your country.
Post edited 2012-04-10 03:17:05
And about your views, I can understand. Since your mom holds conferences on healthcare, I bet she inspected places where the "health factor" is low like people that are in poverty or live in such poverty stricken places. So she basically speaks about that to you and not the better part of India.
if u killed some1 in ur country they wont say "1ge zhong guo ren da si 1ge ren le" theyll say "Jung Cheng Dai zai 'province' da si 1 ge ren zai 'province'"
got my point ?
there's a difference between right/wrong and majority/minority. what the majority think or do doesn't always mean it's right.
get your logic straight.
you need to learn to keep topic on gaming or life,not politic or hates.
please stop now!!!
facepalm
India poor country and 2nd century country , no offence to indian people but they are not civilized !
not all are not civilized , but a lot of them are my bro :)
sure , no offence :)
India has a 10,000 year old civilization. Please educate yourself instead of playing CS
Oh I'm not agreeing with original poster btw, i have liked most Indians I've met.
Post edited 2012-04-10 11:38:40
Each and every language spoken today originated from the four ancient languages of the world which are Greek, Latin, Sanskrit and Persian. Among these languages Sanskrit was the only language which had grammar in ancient times. Greek and Sanskrit borrowed grammar from Sanskrit and many words as well.
The contribution of India to the world is profound. If we have a low GDP/Capita or poverty or a failed IGC it does not mean that we did not have the most advanced civilization in ancient times.
"If I were asked under what sky the human mind has most fully developed some of its choicest gifts, has most deeply pondered on the greatest problems of life, and has found solutions, I should point to India"
- Max Mueller
Max Mueller initially had misanthropic views about India, but later he read our scriptures like the Vedas, Upanishads and his views were totally changed. Please note that Max Mueller was the most famous Indologist and initially he hated India and he was also the creator of The Aryan Invasion Theory!
Read the definition of civilized, please.
2.The most polite man in world history was Mahatma Gandhi - an Indian. Even Martin Luther King was inspired from Gandhiji.
3.Indians obviously pertain to civilized people because Indians were the first to become a civilization.
4.Many Indians are not easy to manage, but our government has diplomatic ties with almost every nation of the world. USA, Russia, UK, France, Israel, Brazil, etc are all our friends.
But people in IGC were not civilized at all, and it had nothing to do with India.
A successful LAN tournament??
"Among these languages Sanskrit was the only language which had grammar in ancient times."
You can't possibly have any idea how ridiculous you just made yourself seem with that statement.
I did not make that statement. People who research on Indo-European languages and linguistics made that statement. I've just read their research.
"The Sanskrit language, whatever be its antiquity is of wonderful structure, more perfect than the Greek, more copious than the Latin and more exquisitely refined than either."
- William Jones(British orientalist)
Here's an idea. Try reading the linguistics literature from the mid 20th century onwards, when we actually started to understand this stuff.
I mentioned about the "words" as an example to show that Sanskrit was older than Greek.
What is this I don't even...
Actually, I'm genuinely curious. Please show me a single modern linguist who tries to make this argument.
Sanskrit and Greek are exactly the same age. As are Latin, English and German. They are all descendents of the same original language, diverging over time after the populations were separated geographically.
Sanskrit & Greek are of the same age, and please don't compare German & English with these ancient languages. English/German did not exist in ancient times, these languages don't have any ancient script/text either.
Modern. I said modern.
Jesus H. Mary Motherfucker of God christ.
And philologists are not linguists. They are historians.
Do you know anything about scientific linguistics post-Saussure? I'm clearly wasting my time here.
Are you saying that 19th century is not a part of modern history?
I said 2nd cetury country because of rights and humans mentality !
i just said that India can't be compare with other countries as civilization and humans mentality ! But now stop , is just a fucking tournament , who care? But is sad what happened
And you mean to say, We dont have humans mentality? :S Then what do we have Alien mentality? Duh! :/
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One rule they should learn:never lie or fool other country's ppls when they put trust on you.
Post edited 2012-04-10 07:09:56
WHAT A SHAME :/
LMAO
Post edited 2012-04-10 02:39:37
IF you ever are unfortunate enough to go to india, just dont hold any expectations.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1015091075..
/popcorn
Bet bruises on his back are nothing but grease/oil
Post edited 2012-04-10 05:09:47
Totally clean bandage, bruises look like something put on his back randomly and not even a single cut after this kinda beating?
Also most part of the bandage is on his hair, instead of the forehead!
Also why the fuck would I wanna publicize my face again after getting beat if its not for gaining sympathy?
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I really LOL'd
but it's a sad situation and what a shame for India
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NVIDIA GEFORCE LAN Mumbai-2011 - https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.27796599..
VIXTURE-2007 (Prize pool = $60,000) - https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.37889861..
BYOC 2012 - Biggest LAN PARTY in INDIA. - https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.32398366..
I can keep adding more, Out of time :/
IGC - Disgrace to India
Post edited 2012-04-10 04:07:16
India -
NVIDIA GEFORCE LAN Mumbai-2011 - https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.27796599..
VIXTURE-2007 (Prize pool = $60,000) - https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.37889861..
BYOC 2012 - Biggest LAN PARTY in INDIA. - https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.32398366..
Post edited 2012-04-10 05:37:54
Our team was the runners up in vixture 2007 and they handed us our prize money immediately at the end of the event (which u can see in the pictures).
Winner got $40,000
Runners up (we) got $20,000
And individual games winners got $8000 each.
Also note that all these 3 events are run by extreme gaming organisation who are really good and encouraging unlike scumbag IGC.
Post edited 2012-04-10 03:44:00
FUCKING IGC!
Joke aside events like this could rly finish cs 1.6 :(
And i'm glad Adepto went fine ...
Post edited 2012-04-10 04:34:06
Do post it(not just here but you should contact some news channels of India, they will surely jump at the news of a scam of this magnitude) but more importantly sue them, get your money, make them pay.
And about that hotel break in, if they got in without waking you up, they could have gotten the master key from hotel reception. That's the only plausible explanation!
that news channel itself is a big scam hahaha! ^^
Post edited 2012-04-10 05:26:35
I personally feel they were just hired stalkers and not thugs lol :P
Ohh yea and i would ask M5 manager/chief to contact some news channel in india, as this event was put up everywhere, they would be interested in this
Last thing, The indian community is sorry for whatever happened
I thought my country had the worst people at handling an event....
M5 should have stayed at my home rather than going to any hotel !!
Even though India progressed on the economic side of things, we have a long way to go to being civilized. People are just dishonest here and no ethics or manners or anything.
M5 was lucky that they got home unscathed.
get into an argument with someone in Delhi and you will hear, "Tu jaanta mera baap kaun hai?"
Stop pretending to have that Indian pride bullsh*t because its exactly that - bullsh*t.
And BTW wasn't raid the brand ambassador (LOL) for this event? Surely he needs to answer some questions.
And yes we messed up. BTW I see some pakistanis secretly being happy about this. Atleast national cricket teams don't get shot at in India. (Sri Lanka, just in case you repressed those memories)
Post edited 2012-04-10 07:49:50
LOL, some religious retarded muslim said something like this as well...
i opened a blog about this, but got deleted : /
Peace in Pieces.
Spam this idiot kushgara's email account with bad words he cannot take....
Kushagra@wtfeventz.com
+91-8800221957
To all indian gamers begin a revolution.....
Post edited 2012-04-10 09:45:24
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http://youtu.be/khJIKH-NJYo
https://www.facebook.com/maxaxe
What will be moment happen...
I am proud to be an Indian... No. 1 corrupted country of the world... :(
By looking at the pics of IGC it doesn't even look like it was a international level of event.
Even I had planned to visit IGC but since it was in noida area i preferred to stay way & i was right.
FY IGC ORGANIZERS .. U GUYS are such a shame to us.
-My Friend
As much as I'll like to blame IGC guys, it's a fault shared by M5 & Indian IGC fanboys.
It was a scam always from the start. Many of us saw through it & decided to warn others.
When we didn't risk travelling to IGC from a different city, why did they come from different country? Also that Mukesh guy is faking everything, yea he was roughed up a bit but not as much as he is making out to be.Sucks, hope he does get trashed.
Regarding India,
India has its pros & con, in a country as large as it, there are bound to be places with poor infrastructure & there are places with good infrastructure. Also scams happen in every country, welcome to real life.
Post edited 2012-04-10 08:31:54
Anyways, let there be peace as shit happens... Stop flooding buddy!!!
Peace now... :)
and how on earth will they know where uve kept ur camera/mmc or money :| and they ransacked the place where 5 russian dudes was sleeping happily along with a MMA wrestler.. cant understand how 6 russians cant fend off 3-4 small dark curry eatin indians? (ive heard this small dark curry blah blah from russian comments only)
the got scared and ran away.. come on man.. this aint pakistan or afghanistan where terrorists come and capture tourists for a ransom.. there are police stations and even russian embassies :|
does anybody else think something fishy is goin on?
why dont u understand whats written there before you judge me because of my flag!
Post edited 2012-04-10 14:45:39
what victims ? i was asking a question to a public.. a comment open for debate.. wher did i show me complex or stupidity ?
u think 4 thugs can enter a hotel and rob them off all this stuff while 6 men including a MMA wrestler was there ?? bitch please !
loord atleast had an excuse to vent his anger as it was WMFs strongest map and FX were leading.. but he ended up apologizing
half the ppl here dono shit abt india is sayin crap like "I HATED THAT COUNTRY ANYWAYS BUT THIS JUS GAVE ME A REASON" and "EXPECTED" "THIEVES" n crap
are they racists ?
btw. Loord apologize only to safe his face, and as I remember organisers would deduct money if they would won something on this event for penalty ;D
and abt cheerin.. dude.. we were cheering more man.. we were happier than the russians that M5 is coming.. it was more like an honor for us..
and abt safety.. i remember fnatic comin here in 2005-06, dono the exact year.. and they went back happy and safe! the only ppl who ran for their lives were the indian players who played against them :D
Post edited 2012-04-10 10:33:09
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
fucking retards xD
Dont blame the country itself, blame the responsible.
At least M5 were not eaten.
Those who saw "Slumdog Millionaire" will understand what i mean, the film showed us how exactly many indians live.
So, when such a country announces huge Event with fantastic prizes for the FIRST TIME - you should think that there's some dirty trick.
feel sorry for m5 lot! regardless of warning noone should have went through that
Anyway, expected. Na'Vi and Fnatic:"Yep, I told you so"!
it knows that this IGC is going to be a trick. So it urinated on the Fox passport. But how ? Need an interview about this cat !
Mrr..Meow-Meow-mya,
Brriayu, au-au, meow.
Fox meow mrrya India, meow mrr passport.
Cat mrr auuu iyauu
Meow meow meow
To be honest i didn't have high hopes for this one. Even the 300.000E prize purse couldn't attract more viewers. There was something seriously fishy about this tournament plus hundreds of Indians comments suggesting not to attend.
On the other hand who would knew ? Apart from our Indian users, is there anyone else who could warn us about this event ? No.
Some days before the tournament, Game Ministry reported that IGC won't happen. Well, actually it did but it would have been better if it didn't.
Moscow5 had a rough time there. I have no idea how their days passed by but they spend at least 5.000E on a scam tournament and you know what ? They did it for you. Kind of. Apart from the 1st place prize, you guys had an opportunity to watch one of Europes best team live. An Indian tournament featuring some of the best players - could easily attract hundreds of spectators. Meet the guys and have fun. That's what it's all about. Counterstrike, Community, Gaming, Having Fun.
Other than that i will never blame INDIA as a nation for this one. I mean how can i ? India is a great nation with lots of history. You guys should do the same. Wikipedia has a great ammount of info about India. Check it out.
They say, "don't judge a book by it's cover", and i think they're right.
Scammers are everywhere.
Post edited 2012-04-10 10:34:33
I say "it could be worse"
it was 100% about the money.
Trust INDIANS
but not INDIA..!!
Specially when it's in DELHI....
BIG SHAME..!! xD xD xD
BYOC screwed Last Time..
Now IGC..
I mean just take a look at the venue..it looks like a pig barn. Did m5 actually thought they have the money to pay out the prizes?
Not gonna blaim India/Indians for that but really..what are the odds this kind of shit going down somewhere else? :/
But being M5 orgs, i would think about legitimace of the event BEFORE going there.
is M5 going to report the event?
SAD
Seriously, you're a pity on our nation, stop calling yourself indian
And technically the event was in Noida which is in UP and not New Delhi soo get that right.
Another fun fact-
Most of the people form Delhi have migrated from other states.
COOL
Post edited 2012-04-10 11:15:51
lol.
Post edited 2012-04-10 12:20:00
India -
NVIDIA GEFORCE LAN Mumbai-2011 - https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.27796599..
VIXTURE-2007 (Prize pool = $60,000) - https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.37889861..
BYOC 2012 - Biggest LAN PARTY in INDIA. - https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.32398366..
Post edited 2012-04-10 05:37:54
Our team was the runners up in vixture 2007 and they handed us our prize money immediately at the end of the event (which u can see in the pictures).
Winner got $40,000
Runners up (we) got $20,000
And individual games winners got $8000 each.
Also note that all these 3 events are run by extreme gaming organisation who are really good and encouraging unlike scumbag IGC.
we can understand the amount of frustration you guys are going through, but believe me we are having double frustration compared to you guys.
Reason 1 being spoiling the name of the country.
Reason 2 being discouraging Indian & International gamers with such scams and setting a bad name for e-sports india.
We Indian gamers feel very sorry for what happened to M5 & other international teams. Just make it a big fuss so that in future nobody else would even think to start a scam tournament (which is still going on in ESWC and WCG)
Now India fails with WTF EVENTZ =DDD
sick stuff m8's. How about involving the POLICE for once not just posting stuff on the internet...
"oh they cut the power to the event, oh they owe us over $20000, oh there are some weird looking thugs in that car behind us"
sounds to me like the police (not just in india, in any country) wouldn't do shit lawl
not only in India...we cant blame a whole coutry becauz of some loosers....
India is a beautifull country and that mother fuckers wont change that...
RESPECT FROM BRAZIL
as big as one of india's thousand ditricts . :DDD
Post edited 2012-04-10 13:53:21
@ Lord <3 adele ...India poor country it seems..can you get your facts right please?...
Search google for richest countries in the world , India is No.4 in the list . Check for richest people in the world , 2 Indians namely mukesh ambani and lakshmi mittal in the top 10 richest list in the world . Both of their personal savings r more than the annual national income of some european nations lol .
@42bsk.... i am sure that you are uneducated and dont even know the basics of economics .
Percapita income = TOTAL INCOME OF nation divided by population..which means its directly in correlation with population ( that includes even unemployed people in the country) .
So a country having lesser income and lesser population may have more percapita income than a country with higher income and higher population . You are seriously a dumbo . And see the top 4 richest country in the world by GDP also india is no . 4th .
Now 1 professional question...why put all the lame on organisers and the country?..M5 is a professional organization..it should have made a proper study if the tournament was real and then only attended , they dint check the history and credibility of sponsors and simply came and got scammed . Why put the responsibility on others?..it was a result of your own decision. If you were unsure , you should have cancelled the trip , go to copenhagen . its like saying if some1 says a tourney in sweden worth 300000 $ by some unknown organiser , i go there and get scammed for my poor decision and i cry that i got scammed .
No offense meant to any 1 else..just couldnt stand those two posts . Indeed a stupid idiotic hospitality and lack of credibility from the side of the organisers , cant help it ...i was brave enough not to attend it knowing it was just another scam event .
A temple called sree padmanabhaswamy temple(google it) in Kerala, India has assets worth Rs 900000 Crore ,ie a small temple's assets alone enough to serve more than 4-5 european nations fully (Google it to believe it )
Live and learn
"Percapita income = TOTAL INCOME OF nation divided by population..which means its directly in correlation with population ( that includes even unemployed people in the country) .
So a country having lesser income and lesser population may have more percapita income than a country with higher income and higher population ."
The (positive) correlation is actually between total GDP and population size, for the completely obvious reason that more people can produce more goods. Total GDP does not take into account worker productivity or individual income levels.
And since we were talking about the social effects of poverty, the relevant statistic is average income per person.
I get that you're just trying to defend India, but I'm not attacking it. Your aim seems a little off.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_..
You can check there how India is rated. It's like any 3rd world country that there are few really rich people and loads of the most poor people in the world.
Post edited 2012-04-10 15:22:13
Just a badluck since birth which cannot be helped and gets worse when the politicians are corrupted too.
live proof of dumbness of ppl like u
You would start to say it does not have enough revenue, well that's because 50% of income is agricultural and it is not taxed in India to help the poor come up. It's basically a circle and won't stop till we get some efficient people up there for atleast 2 decades.
Hope this clears things up for you :)
In short, there is money for everyone and enough to improve the general standard of living here but nobody cares and people have low quality of education, so they don't even get the plot why we're 'poor'.
Post edited 2012-04-12 07:55:48
1) a good tourny.
2) easy money.
People (even indians) were stating that it would probably be a scam.
sorry M5
i'll now be a M5 follower forever...
Post edited 2012-04-10 14:24:37
Fuk u IGC organisers , even terrorists are barking now :P.
Post edited 2012-04-11 08:29:39
But agreeing with a small part of what you said. Too many people just blatantly generalizing, any monkey with a keyboard can type "India this India that". Please think for a second and learn to realize the fact that it was a couple of individuals responsible for this and not the country as a whole. And this is not the first scam you've heard about in e-sports. Kids......STOP !
If you would ask any indian gamer about wat thy felt about IGC before n wat thy feel about it now , there will not be much of a change.. not many indian teams were confident this event would be a hit n legit.. Even my team did not want to participate in this event for the same reason.. we have not had a big legit national tournament for a long time so we did not expect this to be true.. its just too good to be true so fast.. but we still did hope it was a big hit so tht a country like us would get more international teams traveling n playing in an indian event!
I would just like to say it was wrong in the way event organizers treated Moscow 5 n other international teams in the event , and feeel sorry for all the indian teams there who expected more from the event.. It makes us all angry n sad to see India being called a scam because of a few greedy and irresponsible companies who were into it for the wrong reason..
I hope in future we get more good international events atleast coming to india like ESWC etc. It would help the indian esport community to learn more and be able to organize a much more satisfying event.. for now i would just hope esports does not die in india.. n hope all teams get wat they deserve from IGC in terms of cash prize!
google about it u douche .. the best in the business had good things to say about it..
It's a mistake only from some idiots.
I don't really like India, but calling it "shit country"? Pff, points to a very low iq...
Russia
India
North Korea
South Korea
Iraq
Iran
Afghanistan
Turkmenistan
Kazakhstan
Kyrgyzstan
Tajikistan
United Arab Emirates
Pakistan
Armenia
Azerbaijan
Saudi Arabia
Romania
Any country in Africa...
The fuck i was trying to give has magically dissapeared
hahahahhahahahahahahha :P
This sweedish hasnt seen the world yet!
North & South Korea are pretty different countries.
Post edited 2012-04-10 16:30:24
Japan is awesome
What's wrong with Kazakhstan?
but yeah, it's shitty country to live in :(
with great power, comes great responsibility ;D
South Korea,
Kazakhstan,
UAE,
Armenia,
Morocco in Africa
are have to be visited.
You really know nothing what happens worldwide.
Get a life, dude
Post edited 2012-04-10 16:53:39
this explains everything
Lets all hope there is some1 in india to host a big international event which meets all the expectations n gets the trust back in Indian esport community..
sorry m5
sorry gaming community
one positive outcome of this event:-
Indian CS scene is shit [ hail m5 ]
thanks to show the reality to arrogant indians.
looked so good the story... with many actions and shit like that ))
WE(I guess all gamers in India would agree with me) ARE SORRY FOR EVEN SUPPORTING THIS EVENT!
GAMERS OUT THERE PLEASE FEEL FREE TO JUST PRESS THE REPLY BUTTON AND SAY ANYTHING TO THIS EVENT AND THIS COUNTRY! WE DESERVE IT!
SORRY Moscow 5 !
Post edited 2012-04-10 16:09:48
Post edited 2012-04-10 16:35:22
They all like dogs !
even tribals barking now xD.
do u ppl even wear clothes ?
https://www.facebook.com/maxaxe/map
enjoy xD
we seriously cannot organize an international e-sports event.now a days i feel too ashamed to comment whenever i visit hltv.
sorry M5 on behalf of indian gamers..
still would have gotten the free ticket though.
Wondering what really was the big idea of WTF with IGC :/
We cant generalize country's reputation based on single shity event (IGC).
We (Indian Gamers) are extremely sorry for what happened to M5 and NXL at IGC. Due to some dumbfuck ppl, indian gamers will have to suffer. :|
What i said is assessing a country by its percapita income would be a very vague thing.. percapita income takes into consideration even the unemployed people and idle rich ...which constitutes more than 20-30 % of most of the economies . For example , if 10,00,000 $ is National income and 20,000 is population ( out of which 5000 r unemployed ) ...it still takes into account those 20,000 people as total....
In countries like India and China because of its large population HR Supply (Availability of Human Resources ) is more than HR Demand ( need for human resources to be utilized)..hence unemployment is at very high rate, and a lot of people including idle, even idle rich people are not utilized properly . In countries with lesser population usually HR demand is on par with HR supply hence lesser unemployment . Smaller nations have more percapita income than larger nations that doesnt mean they have more purchasing power or are in more strong financial position.
India was one of the few nations that was not affected by recession , and when barrack obama came India , he even made it out in the press conference that US salutes India's stringent and efficient monetary policy and the finance ministers India have , and lack of such finance ministers and monetary policy guidance was the reason for recession to hit nations like US ..To all those people who are criticizing Indian economy..
And please use the goddamn reply button.
Sorry "economic gibberish"
On topic, fuck IGC. But to blame the country for this debacle is beyond ridiculous. As far as I've seen on hltv quite a few indians had their doubts over the event as well. and by the looks of it, they're pissed off as well against the organizers.
"fnatic and Natus Vincere managers told me: "Dima, it's fake! Dont visit ICG 2012. I should have listened to them," ORLY? I guess you can only blame yourself if you attend an event like that, even after you have been warned by others.
Two different people in Argentina have stolen a lot of money contributed by gamers to develop an event very seriously... After that the seriousness and trust are lost.
Sorry for the engli$h
http://plainenglish.co.uk/free-guides.html
"It was a clearly upset and shocked Smelyi HLTV.org spoke"
Smelly
Also on the first paragraph you wrote the quote mark on the wrong place (player's) which is not necessary in this case..
But the main point is, the text makes no-sense in some parts. By some of your blogs/coments, I would say that you just haven't read this text enough times before post it or, haven't asked someone to double check for you. Anyways, it's not a lack of knowledge in English language, just be careful before public informations like that one.
The way I wrote players', with the apostrophe, is correct. What exactly do you not understand? Three people have replied to me, yet no one is able to dish up a proper answer.
Well, I can argue with the fact that processing all the information and writing the post took me nearly four hours. I was beat by the time we posted it. But sure, proof-reading once or twice is usually wise.
You don't think I've done any research on India Gaming Carnival? I've spent countless hours discussing, researching etc. together with Nix0n and on my own.
Of course it's IGC who did the scamming. It has nothing to do with the organizers being Indian. Before this news, I started on a longer piece, in which I even sympathize with India, but now I'm starting to consider this to be my last work published on HLTV.org.
Post edited 2012-04-11 16:19:54
// Don't think im being Indian by defending IGC, m not, just that Headlines talk more than the story itself, so you have to be little careful, neither were M5 scammed (event happened but failed and the money was distributed, DOTA COD FIFA etc went smooth) nor were they robbed (ofcourse lies lol robbery in 5star hotel?). So hoping for u to not hit the ppls sensitivity again :) U Just have to accept that most EU ppl here they think they r superior and they just need a reason to start trolling.
For sure your money should be reclaimed by court. If not, pay me 5k$ and ill get your money back :D
and i am pretty sure m5 spent enough on the trip(14k) to cant afford this for the next weeks anymore :D
Post edited 2012-04-11 00:34:34
http://www.erodov.com/forums/india-gaming-carnival..
Gaming in India is horrible as it is not encouraged and not tht many gamers as they r focused on the other aspects of life.
Kushat = 'to eat'
Igra ukrainian GRA = 'to play'
So to "Eat the game" would be smth like Kushagra in russian. It's symbolical. Am i making any sense ?
Post edited 2012-04-11 05:56:49
(Take your pick)
He just posted a link without saying anything form his own side(apart from latest news)...max isnt saying anything here :P...if you wanna go hate, do it on the the pic the link shows
Post edited 2012-04-17 04:16:13
M5 need to stop whining.
What did they expect when they've decided to travel India.
They also knew that IGC is a shitty tournament.
FUCKING ASSHOLES!
Good try but all in vein.....
sad but true.
After all this M5 didnt event contact their embassy which is hard for me to beleive!
Shame on M5 for faking story to get PR and money in form of insurance and HLTV for posting this article without even verifying the story. I wouldnt be suprised if HLTV too did this for PR
Its obvious that m5 had picture/videos of only poor equipement and facilities. These videos couldnt prove the fraud committed in any way so they decided to take the easy way out and make some hollywood spy thriller type of story.
Do you know break in to 5 stars hotel in India can result into terrorism charge after the terrorist attacks. I knew if they would have contacted their embassy then police could be involved and their story be proven farce.
Hltv has posted this news in a such a manner that everyone is going to believe what m5 saying is 100% true. Those cadred people are right Hltv community is pretty retarted. Thanks to biased admins and childish trolls.
Maybe you people could have atleast verified the news before hurting whole countrys image.
Post edited 2012-04-13 18:20:07
Don't think they had much time to contact police or embassy while in India. Remains to be seen what they've been planning now that they're back to Russia.
That's obviously just how you see it.
Interesting part. I think there is something from M5 where they are massively lying.
Post edited 2013-03-21 10:30:14
the rest is true.

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