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The groups have been announced for xfunction Fraglider Cup by CJM which will take place on the weekend in Porto, Portugal with over 4,000€ in prizes.
Although we earlier reported of the tournament's odd format in group stage, the organizers have once again changed their mind and will now host six groups with the first five featuring four, and the last one featuring five teams.
Playoffs will be held in a best-of-three single elimination format. Top two teams will advance from groups A to E, while group F will see three teams advance to playoffs.
On top of that, the three teams that had the best round difference and placed third in groups A-E will also go through to the playoffs in order to fill the sixteen team bracket.
|Group A||Group B||Group C|
|Group D||Group E||Group F|
More information including where teams will be placed in the playoff bracket, lineups for the teams and more for the event to be held on May 25-27 in Porto is available here.
the organizers deserve a medal :D
10 from the groups of 4 teams (which is quite normal nowadays..) + 3 from Group F which has a group of 5 and would be totally unfair to only go through 2 teams, which makes it 13 + the 3 best 3rd places, according to their points/RD.
It's quite a usually thing these days, unless if things had changed in the past 2 months.
I'm sure you have been in tournaments where the organization had tones of signup's and an unusual number to make the groups. That's exactly what's happening here.
We couldn't just cut off and that's it lol. Also, and unfortunately, the Portuguese community have a slighty different mind concerning how the groups and how a tournament should be run, which, in an extreme professional way, is indeed wrong.
Still, it's a tournament made for the Portuguese teams to have the opportunity to play against some of the best teams out there. We just couldn't shit on their faces and make things shitty for them.
I see and understand your point, still, don't agree with it.
I personally like how some teams will have the chance to pass in third place as they will have the chance to play more and spectators will have the chance to view more games... I do not see what is wrong about that...
Just like you presented alternative tournament structures that no one has seen before, the organizers of this event decided on something different as well..
Just because they didn't use the regular tournament structure method, or the structure ideas you presented recently doesn't mean you have to be so critical about their decision..
Post edited 2012-05-21 19:57:22
i presented my formats with arguments, i'd be interested in hearing any possible arguments you could have for this one.
I think it makes sense.. I think you should wait and see how it turns out before criticizing the format so much.. Just like people should see how your ideas turn out before criticizing them..
As for not covering the tournament, that is up to you guys at HLTV.. This is a great site that has been ran for many years now and you guys know what the best tournaments are to cover..
I just think that, as a former player with great international reputation, you should be more careful about open criticism.. Its great that you show your opinion on the matter. However, your voice is not louder than any other person on this website just because of your reputation. Just because people dont agree with your opinion or do something different doesnt make them stupid or incompetent.
Post edited 2012-05-22 00:36:10
obviously in a perfect world we would cover every tournament fully around the world, but doing so online takes tons of work and we can only work so many hours in a day, plus we obviously don't have enough money to send a representative to every event around the work.
them disagreeing doesn't make them stupid or incompetent, the way they voice their opinions with no real backing does at times ^^
goal difference makes a little sense in sports where they play on the same grounds for all games - at least it truly means something then.
in counter-strike you play two different sides of the game on five (in this case) or seven maps, making round difference a terrible way to judge anything.
oh and yeah, why didnt u replied to #57? the guy above?
feel free to take a look:
Portugal used to be called Portucale, Condado Portucalense etc etc, that was hundreds of years ago, now, do u refer to our country has Portucale? no, u dont, languages evolve, people evolve, even if that was the first name of the sport, its called FOOTBALL SINCE THE XIX century!! now tell me, when American football was created/invented, wasnt it called FOOTBALL already in Europe?
i call american football "football" and soccer "soccer". i have no idea why anyone would care, that is my own personal preference.
and because you seem to get hurt by the smallest things, here's the kicker: i think american football is a more enjoyable sport than soccer.
If you go to the USA and say football, they'll think of American football.
If you go to Australia and say football they'll think of Australian football.
It's only called football in Brittish English.
im not gonna continue to waste my time with this pointless discussion tbh
as for soccer, i used to say football but once i realized it got confused a lot, i switched to better and clearer terms.
Post edited 2012-05-21 23:43:51
I mean, just imagine lurppis, with his accent, using words like "bollocks". It wouldn't make sense
i don't see how that can possibly be interpreted as being a show off, i just explained how i do it.
In my country, there is a little product called "Rennie". You should buy some.
P.S. Now i can see why such a good team as ex-WinFakt (one of my favourites) ended up like that.
the good thing is, after probably one or two forfeit losses on purpose for easier bracket draws, the single elimination stage is normal and will decide most of the tourney.
solid burn buddy (with the usual they were my faves too!!!! for added effect) there, even though you obviously have no idea what happened in winfakt
nt though dude
btw you'd rather be sorry for being born in Portugal bro
Post edited 2012-05-22 10:23:16
A person who prefers using another country's flag its not a patriot person. Honestly you should be the one to feel sorry for living in your country, since you don't even got the balls and love to show it. We have pride on our country since over the centuries we achieved many things. We discover the world. Because of us you now can know where africa, america, etc.. is situated. We have the best football player of world atm. Also in counter-strike we have the best moviemakers in the world and i can guarantee you that. Its obvious that anything is perfect and like everywhere we have our mistakes and fails. But still i'm proud of being Portuguese no matter what. We're a small country but we are a big united community. So, when you say that he should feel sorry for being born in Portugal you should stfu!
I'm not ashamed for my country nor do I not love it (I've said many times I'm --> French <--), I'm simply educated, something very hard to understand for portuguese people apparently. I love my country but I don't think it has anything to do with patriotism to show it on a video game website. Don't be so proud of your country, we owe nothing to it. If it wasn't for you, you think nobody would have ever come across Africa and America? Come on, you just arrived first... The reason you should feel sorry for being born in Portugal is not the country itself or its history (I could care less about either of them) but for the pathetic behaviour portuguese people display on this forum
Oh and btw the best player in the world is Messi, get over it (and you don't have the best movie makers.)
btw I read your comment again, and either it made no sense at all, or you didn't express yourself clearly enough cuz I never contradicted myself here.
Post edited 2012-05-22 15:17:26
Sincerely i agree with you some points. Some people have a pathetic behaviour and don't even have the manners to talk or to be polite overhere. So, all the Portuguese people are pathetic? All of us suck?
I don't even wanted to answer on this topic because of the polemics. But this sentence touched me "btw you'd rather be sorry for being born in Portugal bro". that's why i said that upthere. That's why i'm proud of my country. I can't do nothing about other people. So don't judge one country with milions of people by a few dozens of people who are possessed by rage.
Btw, i guarantee you. The best moviemakers belong from Portugal. That i really know what i'm talking about.
Post edited 2012-05-22 19:35:33
And imo there is no such thing as a "best movie maker", you only prefer some over the rest, doesn't mean he's the absolute best
And actually there is.
In your point of view is no such thing as a "best cs player" Some prefer SpawN, other prefer HeatoN. The best football player etc etc..
your country helped mine 50 years before i was born? cool i guess, but not at all relevant. i have no idea why finland is brought into this conversation at all in the first place, i realize every portuguese person is extremely patriotic on hltv.org but since i am not and haven't brought up finland once, i guess it's just something you think you have over me?
Post edited 2012-05-21 23:52:36
i hope portugal figures their problems out with money, but that has nothing to do with people being annoying here and posting that video to make me "fond of your nation"? lol
I think u are totally retarded and totally disrespectfull!! unbelivable
why do you think k1ck and znation are in the last group, usually meant for lowest seed?
because it plays last, top teams wanted the best schedule (or organizers awarded them it just to be nice).
On topic I agree with you about the tournament format being silly, but mainly due to the round difference for the third places because like you said it can't be compared to goals scored and suffered for instance because it's a completely different starting point.. you can't compare teams based on rounds of different maps on differents sides... Also I bet these groups were handpicked.
Anyways thumbs up for the organizers, because in the end what matters is the games and the fun! keep it up.
Post edited 2012-05-22 06:05:39
I personally had a lot of respect for you as a player and for what you give to the cs community.
I think your view of the format is correct but what you just said isnt appropiate.
Post edited 2012-05-21 20:42:40
that list includes 0 top10 teams in the world.
of course i am not going to the tournament, i will be in north america during the event and i currently don't play cs, i can still comment on it.
you're entitled to your opinion, luckily majority of the people actually know what good looking people look like so i'm good. ps. you just did, so get off your high horse and stop being mad over me saying your nation's pride in counter-strike isn't actually a top team.
if you take a look at comment #88 (http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=152563.. you will see he agrees with everything i said.
admins denied me? i haven't talked to anyone from this tournament about formats.
anyone can form an opinion on anything, i chose to spoke mine out (as do thousands of people daily on hltv.org)
It's their Tournament not yours so if you don't like it you don't have to comment and to give your opinion (it's not good or something else)
just say Nice Tournament simple as that.
Common I didn't expect this from you, I know you're a very nice guy.
Hope It will be a good tournament.
Best lucks from Macedonia :)
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Post edited 2012-05-22 22:38:02
that is not how the world works and for a reason. so when a hotel is shit, you shouldn't actually say they have bed bugs because it might hurt their business, so instead just be nice and not write a review on hotels.com about it?
And it's such a funny argument by the way "it's their tournament, not yours" haha
if people choose to not watch because i say something that means they just live their lives the wrong way and there is nothing i can do about that.
one thing is, having an opinion, stating that opinion with good arguments, which u did. another thing, completely different, is to QUESTION the honor, the respect of the organizers by the rest of the others teams when u dont even know them, stop that, u should know better!
#214, by you: " including HERE"! that just shows how coerent u are kid!!! ffs
Post edited 2012-05-23 14:48:13
K1CK was a good team indeed. I didn't see them playing for years. It feels like at least. They gained a new sponsor and they said they will go to tournaments now but I can't see it. :-)
x6 is just a semi pro team!
they aren't top teams by a long shot, which is why we don't do full coverage - while there are a lot of portuguese fans, it would be too much work to do full coverage of an event like this.
Gl with your team
i looked up gamegune results (http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=82&eventid=606) and here is what k1ck did at gamegune 2010:
9-16 vs fnatic
16-14 vs mousesports (without their best player roman or 3rd best player Tixo - http://www.hltv.org/news/4788-mouz-announce-gamegu.. with Blizzard[inactive for years] and d0m AZ as stand-ins)
4-16 vs Na`Vi
surely that's not a bad result, but the fact that taking down a mousesports pug once is a highlight proves my point - k1ck aren't a bad team, but they aren't a top team either.
placing "5th" doesn't mean anything without being top teams, at gamegune 2010 there were only 3 legitimately good teams, so already placing 4th wouldn't mean anything imo.
thanks for the good luck i suppose? but i'm not an active cs player right now.
Post edited 2012-05-21 23:32:48
About coverage, i agree with you said but i remember some tournaments in Asia, i think with just one "top"/good team and hltv did coverage about that.
Yeah i wish you luck ,in the future.
by "doing anything internationally" i meant being multiple top teams etc, k1ck isn't a bad team but they just aren't a top team.
Ahahah, just don't more about this tournament because you don't know a thing.
Jesus, we do people talk like this when they don't know what the hell are they talking about?
Post edited 2012-05-21 20:51:40
oh and btw, i didn't get "expelled", i chose to stop playing cs. big difference.
When you are very bad don't try harder just choose to stop playing CS . . . Have a nice day
i will have a great day indeed
GROUP B : NG & PTO
GROUP C : PHANTOMS & MADJICK/HARDSTYLE
GROUP D : IMBA & EQUILIBRIUM/PANDORUM
GROUP E : x6tence & exotic
GROUP F : K1CK & znation
gl all teams,great tournament ;)
airwave (dAmnek, omar, charly, bush, contrak)
x6tence (xikii, oFF, FlipiN, arki, Kairi)
zNation (wAke, redman, liTTle, hoNdroz, AERO)
imba.icsu (emilio, Potti, dalito, rape, striker)
K1CK (fox, coachi, rmn, mUt, axoN)
Phantoms (dzt, ehz, ririo, keznitt, xAims)
NorthernGrade (AIm, spekz, KillDream, n0rx, RIZZ)
madjicK (iNsideR, AdukeN, FrozeN, firefox, kekuzny)
PTO-Gaming (just, hanz, zapu, Body, gaspy)
energiE5 (vsk, oDEIth, xoto, LOBO, Axyz)
minorityteam (DIXON, w0rms, gaMbleR, stadodo, kubia)
eQuilibrium (pSychic, XTRM, tXd, bReka, heizen)
uP Gaming (HARD, ANGELZ, zlynx, ZELIN, kSHARK)
wints (toty, STRAYNZ, hvn, nexus, waza)
DREAMERS (FREEDOM, K1KO, JOSTER, skyburN, BUHYAH)
NOSENSE (srg, aimoN, zeek, hack, aimbr)
xfunction (bife, sdw, hUrley, NABOWOW, smaker)
JUVENTUDE (AROZ, DUKa, iMaa, AZNAG, NTRL)
expertminds (luque, sashe, penetraum, mini, sun)
Pandorum (Moah, cdx, fallen, neeve, KAB)
exotic-island (jON, gax, weapoN, kastoN, joz)
BLENDED-Gaming (NEYLL, MAAGNUM, mons, Mendyy, changes)
OverFuzioN (Lammeco, Fredynhu, SkalibaN, wizarDz, aj)
HardStyle (fricky, sohn, bryan, mAister, arfi)
why do you think you have the correct format? LOOL
they done the tournament this way cause in theirs opinion it's the best for the teams, if you don't agree or want to criticize, do it in a pleasant way plz :)
waz1 said they did it this way so everyone could get to play more - i proved this isn't the best way to let people play as much as possible.
my format is backed with reasoning, theirs make no sense. my comment was pleasant enough, mad portuguese people just blew it up, as usual.
This is an outstanding tournament for the "common local teams", but for the big sponsored community its just one more local and restricted occurence. I'm not saying that this isn't a good chance to meet the pro's, play for money and all, but compared to the european "big championship" standards, the xFunctionFRAGlíderCUP by CJM ain't even close to it, and that's exactly the good part: you guys from Portugal should enjoy this tournament and not worry about international coverage.
By the way, here in Brazil we are reproducing this Cup's news in every big eSports website and we'll be tuned in from the begining.
Good luck to all teams!!
Once again, a bad choice of words.
Tournament organisers can't really please everyone, it's impossible. And it's nice that someone is trying to create something new. Ofc lurppis would be happier if his system started being adopted by organizers.
Plus, let's be realistic. It's going to take a while until a portuguese tournament is fully covered by HLTV.org. Til then, let's hope for a huge load of new tournaments... The more, the better!
I really hope for a good tournament, and GL for all the teams, hope for a portuguese one to win :D
Post edited 2012-05-22 01:12:51
I read the whole conversation, and, as I said, that's the way portuguese people "behave" towards critics. But, once more, coachi showed his "rational ability" by being calm and neutral
what i proposed is by no means "my" system, as i said it's something starcraft2 tourneys use and the re-seeding is from nhl - just thoughts for improvements.
i do think this format is really bad though, it promotes the wrong things in cs and there's a good reason it hadn't been used in the past 11 years of competitive cs.
at least you understood the coverage part, kudos to you
I think that this format is just for making an experiment: if it proves it is bad, on the next edition they will certainly change to another one, untill they reach the perfect format.
not a bad choice of words, and certainly not again since i haven't done it yet
Judging by the amount of comments here, you can clearly see that you could have been a little more polite, at least, in your words. I understand that you want to tell the truth and follow your opinion, still, you could have done it in a bit more respectful and professional way.
You are indeed important within this community, but being someone with your status, use it to be constructive, to be helpful. "Here's what I think it's wrong and here's the solution for it", for example.
Unfortunately your honesty turned in a nation being against you. Again.
PS: I truly regret the majority of the comments I see around here. It's bad for you, it's bad for the event, it's bad for a reputation. Hopefully people in the near future won't come up with this as an excuse to stop supporting our work.
Post edited 2012-05-22 01:38:45
not sure what the point is, i watched a minute and i guess it's interesting but i don't see anything relevent. nothing here is a competition between finland and portugal, but if you want to compare something, our country hasn't needed bailing out yet
But here, you piece of shit, you talk to an entire nation, jackass!
COINCIDENTALLY ur in the group where more teams will advance! the key word is COINCIDENTALLY! tell me, is that the kind of language/behavior u demand from a person that has the kind of responsability that he has? are u freaking kidding me? he might be right about everything else, whatever, but he's talking about u and the organizers like u DECIDED to do that, he's talking about things and persons that he has no clue about! are u kidding me? if it was me, he wouldnt stay without answer, thats for sure!
With all the hate that I have for lurppis for being a complete douchebag, he's right.
This tournament is boring to be honest and I can count the number of good teams with one hand only, and still I manage to have few fingers left (which means there are less than 5 good teams for those of you who can't do the math).
The tournament format is also ridiculous...
Bottom line, HLTV.org should feature just the finals .. because that would be probably the only good match from this tournament.
Post edited 2012-05-21 21:44:19
This tournament might be interesting for Portuguese fans, but since there are no top teams there, no one except for them would be really interested in watching those matches unless he's really bored / he's a huge fan of underdog teams - and if you're one.. I'm sure Fraglider will provide you a way to watch this tournament without HLTV.org ..
Post edited 2012-05-21 21:33:48
Anyway GL x6tence and come back to sapin with the 1st price.
obviously the tournament has big names, but i've seen big tournaments from serbia, bosnia, etc being covered and there weren't that many international top teams there.
i don't have any problem with them being covered, nor do i care if this tournament isn't covered, but taking lurppis seriously and to not be a huge douche is like expecting the 2nd coming of christ in your lifetime.
it's funny hltv.oth tries to enforce rules and prevent flame wars between countries when a "colaborator" goes on to generalize a whole countries community based on comments off a website. it's a pitty it has come to this, but i guess those are the perks that come from being a pro player. it sets a bad example and a website like hltv.org has no need to lick the shoes of a moron who thinks his word is dogma.
Post edited 2012-05-21 23:59:41
we can't send nix0n to portugal and we can't write post match posts about every match, so what else can you possible ask for?
LE: OH shit, now i saw #65
Post edited 2012-05-21 23:25:57
btw, GL k1ck :)
Post edited 2012-05-22 00:57:35
I laught a lot reading this thread and believe me, some guys just "pay" for what they say in other times about other tournaments.
Post edited 2012-05-22 04:24:37
But anyway i just want to see a good tournament with good games and good organization. GL dzt ;)
Post edited 2012-05-22 18:02:12
and i hope to see a good tournament , luck to all and i wish everyone enjoying to see good teams playing each other
Post edited 2012-05-22 18:09:55
Post edited 2012-05-22 05:08:11
do you think you are superior compared to us? just because you played professional cs?
stop being such a hater and try to understand other people opinions, cause in months of seeing hltv.org i didnt see ONCE you change ur opinion, so thinnk about that
gl k1ck and overfuzion
All i see on these forums are people critisizing him for voicing his opinions, even though he has on countless times explained in valid reasoning why he voiced those opinions, which in truth are almosts always the truth and valid on the matters spoken about.
i'm just saying his opinion doesnt worth more than the rest of the users and him as a professional player, idol of many as to be more careful with his words and dont insult who insulted him
in that point of insulting he is just being a kid and he knows it, he is in the cs "world" for many years and he knows if he insults someone the insults will never end, that's the cs world, unfortunately
if i insulted every people that insults me i would be damned...
you are asking him why he is being cocky, which means you are implying that he is being cocky, which quite frankly is an insult.
so yes you did insult someone, and denying that you did is insulting your own intelligence.
oh and BTW calling someone arrogant is also an insult!
Post edited 2012-05-22 12:23:08
when you're giving ur opinion doesnt has to be an insult, i just made a statement and i said that he was being arrogant, that's not an insult, learn some "insults" tips
"An insult (also called a slur, scoff, slight or putdown) is an expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which is considered degrading and offensive. Insults (sometimes called "cracks" "remarks" or one-liners) may be intentional or accidental. An example of the latter is a well-intended simple explanation, which in fact is superfluous, but is given due to underestimating the intelligence or knowledge of the other."
Before saying "learn some insult tips", maybe you should learn what insult means!
Post edited 2012-05-22 13:09:05
you said this to me, SO DONT BULLSHIT me saying that i insulted your intelligence!
everyone has his positive and negative sides, just because he can be arrogant doesnt mean he is arrogant!
i called him arrogant and everyone who saw all of his replys think the same as me, so dont go to dictionarys or encyclopedias plz
you make no sense what so ever, clearly you dont know what im talking about, or what insulting someone is, so i wont waste my time trying to teach you, go read up on it and maybe just maybe you will understand.
funny how a normal conversation turned out to be a flame fest on your part, just because you were too stuborn to listen and understand other peoples opinions, which is exactly where we started all of this, you probably still dont realise how you have contradicted yourself this whole time, shame...
Post edited 2012-05-22 16:08:57
Greateffort by hldr and error !! PN PowER :)
GL to all teams *
Anyway, this will be covered by Fraglider, the leading eSports website in Portugal. They have covered other tournaments and done it quite professionally.
So, if HLTV.org doesn't want to cover the tournament, that's their choice. I am sure there will be quite a few good matches, with teams that usually don't participate in international events, because of the lack of support.
But, really, CS 1.6 isn't really dying, is it? I mean, ever weekend we have tournaments with a prize pool of $5,000, right? So that's cool. HLTV.org have their hands full, I guess.
Post edited 2012-05-22 10:27:58
lurppis is a very nice person, (don't get my flag wrong, I'm french), at ESWC 2011, I've seen him and he was very nice to me, accessible, and cheery. We talked a bit, and as he said during the CS:GO clash with one of ESEA partner, I don't know lot a players that have done as much as he for the community.
Surely, he is someone very direct, but that's ok to me. While, a lot of pros say CS:GO is a pure jewel, he keeps saying that it is a shitty game.
I remember at ESWC 2011 where he was talking to his team-mates that the french organizers where fucking morons, that was so funny, 'coz it was true (among all teams that much compete that evening fnatic/Winfakt only 4 of them had their passes for being able to enter in the game field, so carn, friis, lurrpis and stuff were exchanging their passes to enter -_-').
Post edited 2012-05-22 10:48:47
we are just giving our opinion, so you're retarded too cause u gave urs lolol
"When a thread has 100replies in under 3hrs, send me an email"
damn good reading :)
PS the format is not standard, however that does not make it incorrect or wrong. In fact if you learnt anything from Lurppi's article you will realise there is no "standard" format. This in itself a problem that Fraglider do not need to solve.
After taking some time to let it process, you will also realise the format shouldn't affect any of the top teams at all. And they will enter the 16 bracket like usual.
Post edited 2012-05-22 11:46:48
it's normal to show or opinions but in a wise mode, criticism in a good way just bring new ideas and improved work
people must realize that every tournaments can have his own format, brackets, etc..
mch mkr and lul4 sick players
-felippe -atx +kNg +urb top1
Post edited 2012-05-22 19:53:46
the best teams will advance regardless so tot them it won't matter, but once the 3rd place teams get knocked out due to round difference and the weird format where group F has 3 teams advance, they will share my opinion.
Btw, have you ever consider joining politics? will suit you :D
he is not offending anybody just saying his opinion. where is he disrespectful?
If a jornalist starts making a value judgment over the news, hes criticized for it (and well), so...if you are a competent administrator of an entity (in this case, hltv.org) you have to be responsible for the coments you do throught these entity and be impartial and correct as possible.
"The disrespect starts when a people say something stupid as administrator."
well, where did he say something stupid? propose a new tournament format is something stupid or offending? wtf
Post edited 2012-05-22 22:36:16
One thing is a bad tournament format, another (too diferent) is a catastrophical tournament format, which is a bad judgment by lurppis.
But, he can show his opinion without showing some disrespect for Portugal, and Portugal's tournments, so i think lurppis only should be more polite with his opinion..
In the end, this discussion is useless cause the tournment as this groups format and that will not change, only by decision of the org of the tournment =)
GL ALL players
One thing is to say "look, we don't think it's worth spending the time and effort we don't actually have on this tournament, sorry.", other is "fuck you, this tournament sucks, i think the format is catastrophical (lol) and fuck you, if you don't agree with me you're retarded."
GL k1ck and coachi :D and SHOUW will play with Phantoms, keznit no attend the event. gl fraglider too organized this nice event and really important for cs in portugal. gj error.
PS: sry for bad english now can flame me because of my english!!
LOL, i think you should think before calling someone "kid".
Besides some stupid portuguese coment (not all) try to understand the fact. Most of portugueses are not against Lurppis opinion, but against the way he criticized and breadth of what he wrote, which is not true at all.
We are just trying to have one simple moment of happiness (playing counter strike), and I agree with pSycgicpt, we are students that doesn't have so money like you.
So let us to have fun one time in our life... Its nice that you posted things were that means that we are not invisible , but be cool man.
And I know that he said that the format sucks but if you don't mid psy: "The organizacion here gives the oportunity for those guys play a little bit more."
My question is, there are anything wrong with that?
If you saw CB Nations, the tournament was very similar...
I don't see any problem with this, but I'm portuguese, so my opinion probably doesn't count...
About the coverage, I'm not against what lurppis said, but I wanna see some action.
So I think that if the pass hot matches (OK probably in Europe this is not considerate hot match, but teams like K1ck, Phantoms, x6, NG, zN... what ever deserve spectators)
Anyway I don't wanna lose my time with this, thanks to HLTV if gonna show some matches, will be interesting.
Post edited 2012-05-24 20:26:35
I think the format is bad, but I can also see the point in it, as you stated yourself, but I am still not a fan of it.
FOOT + BALL ---> u use ur feet
what u call football basically you use ur hands.
more like ...i dunno... HANDFOOTBALL?
u(americans) cant be right all the time. u created it cause u sucked at it. and u need to be diferent and create another sport which btw is retarded as we(rest of the world but states, and maybe australia) all know
ps: on basketball ur the best. no doubt. but dont come with the "its soccer" cause its not.
HATERS GONNA BE CRAZY NOW
Post edited 2012-05-24 22:53:08
now stop annoying ppl with ur opinions we all got it. havent seen u elsewhere saying so much crap per paragraph
Post edited 2012-05-25 01:35:08
Or please just think in suicide
as I said, I do not remember the date of registration, but I remember this site ask for sponsers to survive on certain time or the site would close.
Reflection 1 for all: don't forget where we came from!
It's we, the simple users that make this site go on!!! you can cover big events with big teams, BUT with out us (the smallers) you will not survive!
the decision to not cover small events (in portugal or in any country) are decisions that the website owners have taken, but that future will tell if they were correct or not...
reflection/question 2: it's better to have this site without any cover of big tournaments instead covering a smaller tournament on any country?
for you lurppis, if you do not have the capacity to realize that when you're a leader or a follower of opinions, someone who is responsible for you on this site please tell you, enlighten you, for your temper on comments! You can't tell anythink you want just because it's the truth or it make senses to you! you just cant and this is not justifiable nor insurmountable! it is a fact and as much as you argument (it seems you like allot) simply you can not justify...
to finish, the format of this tournament is the way they want... if they want to make all teams to move on the second stage, they should! it's their torunament, their rules and just do your job: publish the news!
No offense lurppis, you were ( you may still remain ) a great player in my eyes as well as it seems that you always get troubles when it comes to keep your mouth shut.
You are clever, we know that. Now I think you're wasting your time trying to make everyone think the same way as you do. You'll surely earn respect if you can avoid such issues.
As I said, no offense! You were my heroe back in times :-)