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The Electronic Sports League has announced that Counter-Strike 1.6 has been taken off the main titles list for the seventh season of the Intel Extreme Masters.
Speculations and indications of a CS title change started already ahead of season six and with the announcement of Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, it seemed logical that a change of game was within reach.
Today, the announcement came from the ESL, that the Intel Extreme Masters season seven won't feature Counter-Strike 1.6 as one of the main titles, mainly due to a decline in its status outside of Europe.
The announcement came via the Intel Extreme Masters website and reads a statement issued by Michal "Carmac" Blicharz, Director of Pro Gaming:
"Over the six seasons in the Intel Extreme Masters, Counter-Strike 1.6 brought a lot of fantastic moments to our events and its community contributed enormously towards its global growth. We hope we have delivered a great deal of entertainment and emotions in return.
For a truly global project like ours, with events on four different continents and many different countries, we require game titles with professional players and teams from all corners of the world. In the recent years of Counter-Strike 1.6, the game has retained its status of a top professional game in Europe but declined in other parts of the world. This was evident at our events outside of Europe.
With this as the basis, we have decided to take Counter-Strike off the main titles list. This means that if CS 1.6 will be featured at an event, it will only be for certain events where it is a perfect fit for the Intel Extreme Masters locally.
The legacy of CS in the Intel Extreme Masters is one of the greatest stories in all of ESL. The names of the champions of all six seasons will be engraved on every Intel Extreme Masters season final trophy a player or a team will ever win."
According to the statement, should the game be featured in the Intel Extreme Masters, then it will only be at events where it makes sense, which probably means within the walls of Europe.
Following six seasons as a main title in the Intel Extreme Masters, the era has ended. Looking back at the teams to win the IEM trophy, here is a list of the winners.
|Season 6||ESC Gaming||kuben, TaZ, pasha, Neo, Loord||$50,000|
|Season 5||Natus Vincere||ceh9, starix, Edward, markeloff, Zeus||$35,000|
|Season 4||Natus Vincere||ceh9, starix, Edward, markeloff, Zeus||$50,000|
|Season 3||fnatic||cArn, GeT_RiGhT, dsn, Gux, f0rest||$50,000|
|Season 2||mousesports||Kapio, gore, cyx, Tixo, gob b||$50,000|
|Season 1||PGS Gaming||kuben, TaZ, LUq, Neo, Loord||40,000€|
The seventh season of the Intel Extreme Masters is still to be announced. In the last few years the announcement has come between June and July, so we will have to sit tight and see what the ESL has in store for us this season, regardless of dropping Counter-Strike 1.6.
Why do you even care?
and eventually they will bring 1.6 again
You will be responsible for killing 1.6!
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Counter-Strike is dead.
ESL PICKS UP CS:GO AS MAIN TITLE.
What huge events with Counter-strike now?. And WCG will be the next to drop CS.
We are now in new esports era with MOBA games like League of Legends and Dota2 + Starcraft2. Millions of euros each month in events, millions of players, LIVE streams is so important (people win money with it) and more.
This new era of esports is more professional than the first (CS 1999-2010), the television and crowd have huge importance.
The only hope is cs:go (I dont know if the game is good yet) or shooter community is dead in this esports era.
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Our only hope is a new FPS game that can be competitive
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1.6 too strong for IEM
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Come on we got 70K spectators in final man :(
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CoD, BF, Halo etc. is all american shit for 10 years olds
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However in the case of CS 1.6 or gaming, the number of viewers if comparatively low so it would make absolutely no sense to promote products like Pepsi, banking, etc because it's such a niche market. So yes, one of the main reasons why Intel would drop CS 1.6 is because their not gaining any benefits from sustaining a game which wont bring them any monetary value.
Its irrelevant that the tournament isnt playing the most up-to-date game as its still advertising to their core audience. Its great marketing, and inspires brand-loyalty (conciously or unconciously). The vast majority of counter strike players and spectators arent solely 'cs players', but 'gamers' who play mmos, mobas, and a wide range of other games.
If my argument was invalid then, as I also previously mentioned, Intel would have dropped sponsoring the game the better part of a decade ago - but they didnt. It hasnt suddenly happened now that CS1.6 no longer requires top-end computers... thats something that hasnt been required for atleast 7-8 years.
The reason CS1.6 got dropped is probably partly because of their stated one (that the game is 'dead' outside of Europe), and also partly because of CSGO which will be launched a few months before IEM season 7 starts.
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The point of Coca-Cola advertising in the NBA is so that people will think Coke when they want to get a drink. In the same regard, even though you don't need a new PC to play 1.6, when you go out and buy your next PC (which you will do anyway) you will think Intel because you've seen them sponsoring multiple CS events and teams.
Personally, if AMD started sponsoring 1.6 tournaments I would become an AMD customer even though I've bought Intel for the past 12 years.
My two cents.
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ps. from the other hand i wanna try this "shitty cs:go", maybe it has future on the competitive level... who knows
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what does this mean ?
LIKE THIS PAGE PLEASE
Lets buy cs:go and we will play like blind mode
'After the failish 7th season, we decided to bring 1.6 back as our main title.' Clean and easy!
They get more views from actual LoL/SC2 fans than 1.6 fans.
no one can argue with that
I don't understand them fully (maybe I'm just coloured by my love to the game). I just find it weird to remove a game with such high livestream views in 2011. It even topped sc2.
Plus practically any vid card from the last 10 years will play 1.6 at full fps. So why do they get rid of it now and not 10 years ago? Your argument doesn't really work. There's more at play.
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SC2 was not a very good game when it came out, and none of the old BW fans truly liked it, but it generated buzz by going of BW hype. Same thing could happen with GO.
It's not the existing community that they want, it's the people who don't watch now they want. So CS:GO is quite the possibility tbh.
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana
But I never feel like the casual gamers are actually playing the good games :P
But I agree, it's never realistic to compare different genres, but it does give perspective.
I wish it did not have to be that way but i guess we'll have to say goodbye to the best CS 1.6 Tournament of the year. It was great while it lasted.
tell the truth carmac, how much valve offered to ESL?
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If you ever try to sell to your sponsors that the percentages are better for 1.6, they will only smile and think about how great numbers they might achieve out of LoL.
More than 4.7 million unique online viewers over the weekend
More than 2.2 million unique online viewers on Championship Sunday
437,000 peak concurrent online viewers
More than 5.4 million hours of video consumed
More than 20,000 in person spectators
A good weekend, even though it's several games.
When was that?
Most people said that CS beat SC2 in viewers at IEM WC but that never really happened, SC2 had 100K, far from 1.6's 70K.
Only LoL and Starcraft communities do it. They have a spectator culture and fan culture very huge.
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Starcraft, Dota and League of Legends communities have a FAN culture & spectactor culture very huge.
They pay ticket to watch events and sold out the crowd, pay to get TV/Stream account and more.
Counter-Strike community is so old and different to them.
Valve prolly paid to have CS:GO in the IEM
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Lets hope something comes along that can live upto the greatest team FPS that ever existed..
95% of the community really dislike CS:GO.
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"In the recent years of Counter-Strike 1.6, the game has retained its status of a top professional game in Europe but declined in other parts of the world"
always been so.
we had 71k viewers ,¿what do you say about that? :|
So, football is the most sport played in whole world, and badminton isn't so popular and isn't so played, but that's no reason to kick from Olympic Games, for example.
Stupids arguments. I HATE YOU ESL, I HATE YOU IEM!!!
What I wanted to say in a more mannered way: Shame IEM, CS made you, we, CS fans, made you.
It was a matter of time.
and if they think that they will get response with any other fps game from other continents then they are completely wrong. Passion is not a problem money is. So no matter what you do other people wont show up without any sponsors.
If they removed Cs 1.6 this year this does not mean that they cant add it next year. I am pretty sure CS:GO will be a big flop. As only kids will be playing the game just like source. and if they dont even include CS:GO then FPS games will die. Hence giving mobile gaming a boost. So i still have my fingers crossed.
GO GO GO
they should rather try to change something in the game, maps, playing system or whatever. before they will realise what they lost in counter-strike, they will be lost. counter-strike is so big part of esports, there is nothing that can replace it, not now at least.
UMX.USA, eFuture, EG, Check Six & TyLoo/Anexis all qualified but none of them had sponsors to attend the event. Once they declined, the spots were passed down to DTS Gaming, Black & Yellow, semXorah (who attended with four new players but IEM couldn't turn them down I assume because they needed more teams), Immunity and XcN Gaming.
Guangzhou and New York Global Challenges weren't that strong either, so it is true that Counter-Strike 1.6 is slowing down outside of Europe.
I still really wish it was featured though, such a great game and fun to watch, play, write about and commentate.
At least we have seen that there's no game which could replace CS1.6
Maybe CS2 in the future..
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"For a truly global project like ours, with events on four different continents and many different countries, we require game titles with professional players and teams from all corners of the world."
If you're going to pick up CS:GO even it hasn't evolved any kind of international (!= USA) community nor a professional scene just by its own qualities (no financial enforcement), then go and hang yourself for lying to us.
Today's esport is full of elf-crap and fucking boring asian-games. No Quake, no UT, no CS. Fuck this shit.
Those so called "successors" like CS:GO are just a shame. There wouldn't be any kind of professional esport-scene in Europe without the original CS and games like CS:GO are only concerned as "esport-titels" because of their names. You wouldn't even think about playing CS:GO competitively or building about a professional scene if it wouldn't be named Counter-Strike.
But obviously retards like you won't realize this until esport lost its meaning as a professional competition and turns into some marketing-gag driven by every-week-changing casual games.
You still didn't understand esports biggest problem: the addiction to game-developers. Instead of investing in esport's future (by supporting project like CSPromod) you're getting abused for pure marketing (think about the past 12 years and then tell me again Valve would care about esport for any other reason than free publicity).
True games made to satisfy and entertain, not comercail purposes. Right now his project is Tactical Intervention, wich seems to bring us the funny moments we had with Quake, UT and CS.
CS maybe not more popular than LoL but more professionalism and more exciting to watch. I personally love playing LoL but it's not fun to watch. When I watch LoL I only watch tips from Pro's what could I do with champions. So I believe that League Of Legends eSport is gonna die in 1-3 years from this moment and gonna be only casually played. Ofc, we need new game with this happening. That kind of game that gets developers that actually care about community and eSports (same what RiotGames is doing right now) and we know that Valve ain't that developer. So I believe CS is dead for now on because Valve is one of worst game designers in world and I am 99% that they aren't gonna sell CS rights to other people. So we need new FPS game, but with current developers there is no hope.
thanks for your support ESL
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They will come back to cs1.6 next season after nobody goes to their shitty CS:GO tournament
ty 1.6 for 10 years happy...
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SHARE IT PLEASE
but for how much longer?
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in cs:go we trust zD
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COD/BF3? Whose majority of people are just 14-17 and spent there life in there homes and are afraid to go on LAN. :))
What a stupid reason tbvh. Go die IEM.
CS 1.6 which was holding FPS in eSports has gone like Quake.
Maybe one day fps can return
Either Valve gonna make deal(s) to IEM/ESL to put CS:GO in; or they'll choose COD or BF3.
Valve can't make a deal about CS:GO.
IEM has just removed a game which had 70k viewers.
So are you expecting they're gonna bring a game which 80% of this community hated?
Don't count CS:S. Nobody makes a game for get 1500 viewers :)
CS was the only fps game in esports. The others are just made for fun and you can see there's no big esport events for games like bf3..
Imo new games can become really good too with a mixed community with Cs1.6/Css/CoD/Bf3 and new players.
youre all morons for saying you hope CSGO fails. the only way it can fail is by not supporting it, and then you will say "HAH knew it would fail," because youre all idiots.
hopefully they announce CSGO soon, so that way when the top teams in 1.6 transition over, you can shit on them like you have shit on get_right, n0thing and fallen for even hinting that source engine games are good because you all run windows 98 and live in mud huts and are mad that CS Legos is dying.
.. or by just not being good enough. good games always get people playing them.
I'm using Windows 7, I live in a nice apartment in Geneva(paid by self-earned money) and I play 1.6 cause I enjoy it.
You're just a fat little Americunt who's running mad cause people prefer 1.6 over CSS.
and for what? Simply because the ESL has decided to evolve, as all businesses must do to survive and be successful. As long as these idiots dont believe a game can be as good as 1.6, then no game will be, because they're so close minded and behind on the rest of the world.
The problem with your "not being good enough" remark is that the developers are trying to make it as appealing as possible to even the most close minded in the community, namely the frequenters of HLTV.org. Even then, they refuse to accept it because they're simply too dumb.
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ESC: we'd rather play LoL than CS:GO
SK: GeT_RiGhT has played CS:GO and so has f0rest, that's all.
me: I think the game is bad, not fun, and if it wasn't for the "Counter-Strike" part in its name, it wouldn't even be considered as a successor for CS 1.6
if you make claims like that, can you at least try to back them up somehow?
i would love to hear of some of these "top teams and players" (not called GeT_RiGhT) who say they are ready to give CS:GO a shot.
.. the developers are trying to make it as appealing as possible to even the most close minded in the community, namely the frequenters of HLTV.org."
Seriously, how can you still believe in that? Only 1.5 months till release and the game is still far away from being a good competitive team-shooter. They ignored almost every kind of feedback and came up with shit like "the science of fog" ...
I don't even want to talk about it anymore.
"We will release the game when the community says it's ready". Obviously that was a lie too.
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I mean, they cancelled the cross platform work to keep the feeling of the game, that was one of the major selling points. Not only that, but there have been multiple patches addressing the issues of fog and detail. They've alotted for enough movement that it doesnt create game breaking exploits like in source. and off the top of my head, there have been at the very least, 10 patches addressing the recoil.
You really need to look at the patch notes closer. Theyve listened plenty, but Im sure because they dont have crouched hopping or crouch peeking, that means they havent listened at all.
1. I know the development of CS:GO very well. I played it a lot (although I never really enjoyed it) and I wrote a detailed feedback after every update.
2. The movement and the recoil are still far away from being "fixed". Especially the movement is still fucked up and noone who's enjoying CS 1.6 will be satisfied with CS:GO's movement. But you're a CSS players, so what do you know about movement...
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Just because the movement isnt that same as 1.6's doesnt mean its fucked up. Just because you cant exploit the shit out of it doesnt mean its fucked up. Just because you cant makes yourself do the parkinsons dance doesnt mean its fucked up, it means its more balanced.
and FYI, theyre still updating movement and recoil via player feedback. Quit flaming for retarded reasons, youre still as inexperienced, biased and uneducated in the development of this game as I thought the first time around.
I can understand developers wanting to be artistic or making something new and fun but why not just make NEW maps and not butcher ones that were already balanced or well liked?
Anyways as far as you saying people don't give cs go a chance more people have not given cs pro mod a chance which in my opinion is the superior game and it can be free to play and with the right backing it could take over 1.6 / cs go / source etc because the people running it actually listen to the community and know that games are suppose to be hard so the skill ceiling can be high.
as far as the csgo maps are concerned, i agree with you for the most part, but I think train and nuke are the only real classic maps that are royally screwed.
Just search for "cspromod" and read the comments on the latest news. Of course there are always some idiots bitching around but that's "normal", especially on this site.
CSPromod gets better with every update and IMO this project would be gold for CS as an esport-titel.
I fully agree with everything Semphis said. It's a shame CS:GO won't have any new map (only the classics and some 1-bombspot-maps imported from L4D) and the reason why they screwed up nuke and train is just ridiculous (Chet said they deleted the stairs on nuke cause their analyse-software told them they get used very rarely; obv. these guys just don't know how CS is played cause the CTs are now free to completely ignore the outside-area ..)
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The problem is that a lot of the users here are very young (<15) and tend to go with the flow of others. Of course there is no reason to change to CSP as long as CS 1.6 is used, but now that is no longer is, it's a different question.
However, as long as CS 1.6 was used by tournaments (and no, graphics are not an issue), there was no reason to think about CSP.
CS:GO might look like a savior but unless Valve drastically changes the game we will never see it at IEM or any other major tournament with huge prize pots.
They blew it when they said they would work with the pros and stated "We will release the game when the community says it's ready", and lied.
They need to delay the game to 2013 if they want to give us a game for the next 10 years.
Theres been tons of feedback for CSGO. Pros arent the only ones who can give reliable feedback anyway, and the progress as far as updates are concerned is great, just read the patch notes.
The game doesnt have to be 1.6 to be successful, and this is something HLTV.org doesnt grasp
There have been tons of feedback for CS:GO, just not from the pros who (at least the ones who can articulate their thoughts well) are the most experienced and qualified to give it. Reading HPE's own patch notes hardly proves anything.
Clearly the fans of the greatest FPS team game of all time want to stick to the greatest game, not the 35th best one.
If the game is good enough, it will succeed regardless of our community - if it isn't, then it didn't deserve to succeed in the first place. I don't understand the problem there.
Many of the current cs pros aren't exactly young anymore so it wouldn't be at all surprising if they decided they don't want to learn a new game, especially if they don't love to play it. It has very little to do with giving the game a chance, but more about other responsibilities making it impossible to put your livelihood in the hands of a new game which gives no guarantee of longer term income.
I can guarantee that when CS:GO is released, a lot of the current 1.6 followers will buy the game and try to play it. They will then continue to play it if they like it. Noone should be encouraged to support a game if they don't like it, it's a hobby in the end of the day. If CS:GO will fail, it will have nothing to do with whether the current 1.6 purists "gave it a chance". The CS name itself will get the majority of current CS followers to buy and test it, but whether the game succeeds longer term will be decided by the quality of the game. If Valve fails to make it good, it simply doesn't deserve a place in the eSports world.
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More than 4.7 million unique online viewers over the weekend
More than 2.2 million unique online viewers on Championship Sunday
437,000 peak concurrent online viewers
More than 5.4 million hours of video consumed
More than 20,000 in person spectators
a new game brings millions of new players, hundreds of "top teams" instead of 3-4 teams winning over and over every single year.
We Changed our Mind and will not DROP bomb sorry Cs1.6 , wait for NEXT season ...
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Fuck you esl and have a nice day
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He's a League of Legends fanboy.
i love this game so much and i really really want to contribute to keep this game alive? but i alone cant do it, so if we stick together we might succeed, i wish hltv comes up with some sort of program which collects the donation for cs1.6 tournament i would surely donate some
edit: sorry i added too many questions.. bad english :(
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Because gamers would rather play games than sit down and watch tournaments.
Blame yourselves, look at LoL and SC2 their averages are almost at 100k viewers at any given tournament. What's 1.6? Lucky to get over 15k.
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they've had far more success with SC2 and LoL in 1 years time than they had with 1.6 in 5 years lol.
i hope this brings somewhat tears to all of you !
RIP 1.6 <3 an end is a new beginning
You realize pros don't play 1.6 simply because it is fun right?
Games are their livelihoods, just as is for Joe Miller and Carmac. If they spend more money hosting 1.6 than making it's bad business practice.
People need to eat too, you know?
People asking why these organizers/Valve are killing 1.6 need to read the comments in this article alone.
Look how shit this community is, all you see is dumb Europeans going 'burn Carmacs house down', 'hope all ESL die in a fire', etc
it's a pure filth community, no wonder why no1 wants to support CS anymore.
esl will lose many with this decision for sure because at this moment most interested and played game is CS 1.6, COD and LoL. Better decision is not kick out CS 1.6 but delete this all European, Asia masters etc... and make one or two events in year, example qualifications online and on lan World Championship. It's my opinion and i think esl chose shit way
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Fan base in 1.6 is shit, as is CSS.
We need CS:GO to unite both communities that way it can be a 1 game statistic instead of a 2 game statistic.
LoL fans are one, SC2 fans are one... there is no LoL 2 or SC1 fanbase(because those games are dead, well LoL 2 isn't real too xD) so the communities are all 1 game united. CS communities are seperated in 2 because both sides are stubborn. Everyone thinks their game is better... 1.6 fans says 1.6 is better, CSS fans say CSS is better..
we gotta all join together and say CS:GO is better and then watch all the events and show support for CS. Stop being stubborn, both CSS and 1.6 are dead, and if you love CS like I do, you will make the switch. All games were shit in beta, CS:GO will improve faster than any CS ever had because for the first time ever valve is involved and asking for pro help.
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THE BEST TOURNAMENT AND organization of cs1.6
no iem cs die
1.6 is a shit game, always has been.. move on people.
That's why I rarely read the forums here... ignorant retarded dribbling mess europeans.
Whenever I see what people post on these forums I imagine some autistic kid spitting while talking to me.
Better prizes, greater championships? perhaps.
Give it a chance.
NO CS, IEM RIP!!!
I do not watch IEM ...
WCG drop CS
It would demand more then 600 posts before we saw the first reasonable reply.
Thank you sir.
CS is no fun any more. I saw boasting about 70k spectators during IEM in this thread. But these 70k remain the same, time goes by, there are no newcomers to the game. You blame Halo, CoD and BF for being childish, but, honestly, these are the games where you can have the most fun as a newcomer, they are easy to get-straight-into, they are user-friendly and have nice graphics( let's face it, graphics IS important for players nowadays), CS becomes something too hardcore, hard-to-comprehend. As a casual gamer you'd prefer spending evening playing good-looking CoD instead of square CS.
I never played SC2, for example. I accidentaly saw some stream and took liking to it, having almost no idea what was going on on the screen, simply enjoying those pros play. Now, I am interested in the game and started playing myself.
My city is not big(500k), we have CS and SC2 tournaments roughly every three months. The main difference between two tournaments is that CS tournament is attended by those, who attended them for years, while there is always a bunch of new players in SC2's one. CS came to a standstill, no newcomers, and if it falls(it surely will), let it be quick.
Now, we are given a great opportunity to take CS to the next level. I think, it's disrespectful and ungrateful to blame ESL for dropping CS. I believe, they do it for the sake of e-sports. It's just bigger than one title, and when it's dropped, you have to move on.
There's too little tournaments left to play profesionally for them
I sincerely hope that their new main title fails miserably, so they can regret about their decision. I don't even care about e-sports in general, I only care about 1.6, it's the only game that I enjoy, I don't even play videogames.
"of corse, its better to watch girls game or nerds games"*sarcastic*
Sorry for my bad english.
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cs is a great game but however everything gets older, we have to accept it.
WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST READ ?????????
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This is all because of money no one is looking only for our own ass is so all over the world and me this is not surprising..
Post edited 2012-06-14 22:25:51
EDIT: Professional 1.6 players undoubtedly are to be blamed for these drops.They make no streams (except few,but still even they rarely) ,and in no way they communicate to fans or help the game,thats for all except Lurppis.
wtf? cs was the most watched game at wcg/iem and they quit it? ahahahhahaha nice joke , is not 1 april so IEM wake up Mother******s ! :)
CS 1.6 NEVER DIES
FAWWWWWWWWWWK ALL HATERS _)_
CS 1.6 will always be on top of other eSport games, when it comes to competition.
They will lose tons of viewers by this action
Post edited 2012-06-14 23:29:11
Back that up with some evidence.... OH WAIT.... you cannot?
WCG was obvious why they cut 1.6, they simply cannot afford to keep supporting the game, that was obvious due to it originally cutting PC Games earlier this year, games like SC2 & LoL bring in far more viewers & sponsorship and costs less in the long term.
IEM had stated previously that they needed to change titles, they have mentioned that it might not feature CS in any way shape or form. It was clear the dwindling support for the game got it cut from the line up.
Once again you have jumped to conclusions and falsely attacking Valve for not having anything to do with it.
And players retiring.
Post edited 2012-06-15 00:15:04
We just have to keep turning out high viewer numbers for the EU global challenges.
We see a lot of investment in StarCraft, in LoL, and probably soon in DotA also .. and so on.
The reason they are giving for pulling off CS16, doesnt make any sense. With all of the viewers, coverage, exposure there is in CS16, the only thing left that can be the cause of this is either money ESLs is receiving or because CS:GO is in the pipeline.
Will be pretty interesting what other events will do priar to CS:GO launch
Its still the king of online FPS multiplayer! And among best most successfull and most stable multiplayer for any investemnet or companies sponsoring it and worrying about its popularity. Your other games will die brutaly in less than 3 years span, i guarantee it. what a fail, Only explanation is MONEY OPPORTUNITY, i dont now where or how. But cs:go and valve probably responsible. What a shitt game and way to ruin your own legacy and creation, shoot yourself in the foot valve, NICE JOB GENIUSES!
If you do it , I am sure the ratings will decline！！
CS 1.6 it is the most i love
Nothing can replace it！
EDIT: I NEVER GONNA PLAY CS:SHIT
"Gimme money fuck gamers organisation."
When the championship was held at 1.6, prize them somewhat back through advertising, views, youtube
We believe in 1.6
Post edited 2012-06-15 10:55:39
I'm from CS:S, and played 1.6 from 2002 to 2004.
Would you, you guys from 1.6, switch for CS:GO ?
i think GameGune will be the last big tournament
Brazil is not in europe so... ELS fail!