ESWC drops CS, side tourney in CS:GO
By: Nix0n
Time: 2012-07-16 13:26
Game: Counter-Strike 1.6

The Electronic Sports World Cup has announced the 2012 season, once again with the grand final during Paris Games Week running November 1-4, though this season with no Counter-Strike as a game title for the official disciplines.

Oxent acquired the French brand back in May, which put the former ESWC president Mattieu Dallon back onboard as the Managing Director.

Today Oxent announced the plans for ESWC in 2012, which marks a return to Paris Games Week for the grand final, taking place November 1-4 at Porte de Versailles in the French capital.

The trend from other event organizers as of recently has carried over to ESWC, as Counter-Strike has been dropped. Last year ESWC had both 1.6 and Source on the list of game titles, but this year both have been scratched.


ESWC returns to Paris Games Week 

Official game titles for ESWC 2012 are:

StarCraft 2
Dota 2
ShootMania Storm
TrackMania Nations
FIFA 13
Tekken Tag Tournament 2

In the press release on announcing the 2012 event ESWC stated several side tournaments will take place, including a tournament for Counter-Strike: Global Offensive.

It is also mentioned that additional games, tournaments or show matches may be announced in the coming weeks. No detailed information was disclosed regarding the qualifying stages for this years event, including the CS:GO side tournament.

Tags: Electronic Sports World Cup, ESWC, Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, CS:GO

God damn!
2012-07-16 13:26:50
GGWP. RIP CS
2012-07-16 14:16:01
+

Rest In Peace CS 1.6 Competitive Scene.
2012-07-16 15:33:33
1.6 dies, CS:GO comes in

if CS:GO sucks, 1.6 will be back. Win/win (i hope anyway) :)
2012-07-16 16:31:41
Not how it works. If CS:GO dies, the entire Counter-Strike era dies with it unfortunately.
2012-07-16 17:01:29
Lets just show our strenght, we should not watch this CS:GO champ, this way we can bury entire cs (1.6, GO, OL, whatever), or we could reborn cs 1.6 scenario, we have nothing to loose, valve does!
2012-07-16 17:18:24
I join this rebellion
2012-07-16 17:34:52
such a backwards way of thinking, but mind you, i expect it from a website where the users iq is miniscule
2012-07-16 19:53:42
care to elaborate? Why should he support a crappy game if he doesn't feel like it? Cuz valve want him to?
2012-07-16 20:27:04
if he doesnt like it he can just not watch it, no need to sound militant and call on everyone else to not watch csgo.

maybe some people will give it a try and find out that they like it
2012-07-17 03:39:00
Well if he doesn't wanna play CS:GO then it's logical that he asks people not to stop playing 1.6 doesn't it?

Post edited 2012-07-17 15:01:50
2012-07-17 15:01:39
Dont watch the csgo stream -> Viewers are low -> sponsors pull out -> tournaments drop game -> no more cs in eswc due to graphics being majorly outdated, its going to be the same in almost every tournament thats dropped 1.6, and to put them more out of favour for 1.6, the hltv userbase has outright dismissed every tournament for 1.6 now that dropped it
2012-07-17 03:46:34
What's wrong with CS:GO being dropped, now that 1.6 has been dropped of most big events?
2012-07-17 15:00:32
so if you cant have the game you want in tourneys no one can?
2012-07-17 15:39:33
that's not what I'm saying, but I find it understandable that he tries to have his community sticking to his game
2012-07-17 15:40:51
if it was up to me i'd have both 1.6 and source in the big tournaments, but times are changing and everyone on this site is trying to find that rock they can hide under and rock back and fourth in the corner whispering "1.6 is not dead" to themselves
2012-07-17 20:37:05
gtfo source player
2012-07-19 01:53:35
you r an user too, right?
so your IQ is minuscule as well...
nothing further
2012-07-16 20:44:30
no, i merely come on here to post on topics like these, i dont browse the forums at all, i dont read the news etc
2012-07-17 20:35:11
Agreed.
2012-07-16 21:05:43
I will answer according to what i think is you're intelligence.

You're stupid.
2012-07-16 23:14:35
your* intelligence
2012-07-17 03:39:27
well i wasnt gonna watch CS:GO matches anyways in any tournament, but i agree. we really have nothing to loose. though i doubt 1.6 will come back IF CS:GO fails. =(
2012-07-17 02:20:29
you're wrong. 1.6 is dead already.
2012-07-16 17:37:18
cs 1.6 will return!
will see
2012-07-16 19:48:12
+1 dude
2012-07-19 06:34:32
There are still more than 1.5 million stable CS1.6 players in China now, can you imagine that?

Maybe CS 1.6 is going to die in the competition, but it will never die in China, lol.
-a cs enthusiast from China
2012-07-19 11:36:25
one more with you guys, i belive CS1.6 will liveeeeee!
2012-07-20 11:46:33
sad but true
2012-07-16 16:36:06
This Tournament Will be most Epic FaiL !!
1.6 will back in 3 months =] You Will SEE !! :D
2012-07-16 14:28:23
keep dreaming ...

no game has ever returned after being dropped by so many organizations
2012-07-16 14:57:52
1.6 when source was rejected =]

Post edited 2012-07-16 15:30:11
2012-07-16 15:28:58
That was only dropped by WCG in 2005, he said many organisations.

So far IEM, WCG, eStars, ESWC have all dropped 1.6, so this is more than one organisation.

Not to mention the teams who have dropped 1.6

You are looking at whole new ball game here and the move was bound to happen.
2012-07-17 00:44:29
agreed
2012-07-17 09:20:20
Dreams are free for everyone
2012-07-16 15:26:45
it wont be,people will still watch dota2 and sc2
2012-07-16 19:23:36
ok . i will kill them :D
Kill all Lol, Sc2, dota2 fans and cs 1.6 will be best game ever :D xD
2012-07-16 19:49:26
what are you, 12?
2012-07-17 16:20:45
yeah im under 12 i've got 6 ? Can you be mine friend ? I'm looking it on CS but no one like me ...
You are so funny =] that was a joke !
2012-07-17 16:53:13
no
eswc have dota 2 and starcraft 2 that has 2 times more fan than cs 1.6 now
2012-07-16 20:54:06
With ESWC, without ESWC I still will play 1.6
2012-07-18 16:28:19
by: Zacko
#3
CS 1.6 is dead nothing to say.
2012-07-16 13:27:19
cs competitive scene is dead. for sure.
2012-07-16 13:37:09
yes
2012-07-16 13:43:53
maybe... there is a conspiracy behind all this, maybe the developers of new games want to shut down our beloved game cuz they want to destroy our big comunity in order to get us in a new colorful game.

I mean, there is anything we can do to stop this from happening? HLTV mods, what should we do, where do we have to send signs an letters in order to have an event with cs 1.6? is this even possible?
2012-07-16 16:38:01
it really looks like a conspiracy now since there are not strong reasons to drop a game that still delivers strong spec numbers (sometimes even more than newer games like Starcraft II).

IEM,WCG,ESWC are now officially not part of our community anymore, they turned the back on us, its better if we do the same to them.
2012-07-16 18:01:39
we all know thats what valve is doing...
2012-07-16 19:24:21
jesus fucking christ, are you for real, this is gaming, not politics, there are no conspiracies...

valve release new game -> organisers realise its time to move up graphically to support hardware sponsors -> profit

it was inevitable that 1.6 would be replaced, get over it and move on
2012-07-16 19:56:40
just read the second question: http://www.hltv.org/news/8723-carmac-no-csgo-as-ma..

This is not like any other game, this is a clasic game that every single gamer try before, maybe by playing ffa, mr15, deathmatch, zombie plague, kz, surf, runescape, football, omg there are so many mods, and u think we should move on just like that?, this game its imposible to replace and they know that, but they try harder and harder to get us out of here to buy their new shiny game and if we do that (but i really dont think it can happen) is never gonna be the same feeling, cuz this is ours, we made it and we will love it until the very end.
2012-07-16 20:28:28
He said sponsors don't primarily target that however unless you have proof that Valve are paying organisations to drop 1.6 in favour for CSGO then you have no leg to stand on, Valve are not to blame here. Organisations don't get paid by Valve, it's one of the reasons why Valve said they wouldnt run their own tournament to support CSGO because tournament organisers already support CS in a big way.

I just dont get why people blame VALVE, when these tournaments have boards of executives who look at what games they can support.
2012-07-17 00:49:19
"I just dont get why people blame VALVE, when these tournaments have boards of executives who look at what games they can support."


And I just don't get how can you not see a VALVe employee with a bag with, say, $5000,00 could buy one of those executives vote's.
2012-07-17 04:28:52
Again what do they have to gain for it? It might produce extra sales however and I know this from my own experience, it just doesn't work like that.
2012-07-17 19:28:55
this isnt a 9/11 conspiracy, its gaming.. i seriously doubt theres any backalley dealings on such a scale that you're claiming
2012-07-17 20:38:28
why do ppl with your flag are always in favor of new games, and talking about move on from cs 1.6?, almost every single post u made is about that. interesting.

and also, please, if u want to move on GTFO.

Post edited 2012-07-18 00:55:23
2012-07-18 00:53:55
i have played source since 2004, 1.6 for a while before that, hardly in favour of moving, its just the logical thing to do
2012-07-18 04:50:48
ofc u did play source, know everything make sense, u are source player... and u want us to move on to another cs just because ur game die so long ago, as I said before in a very friendly way, gtfo source player, this is not a source comunity and we dont really want ur opinion about this subject. hltv.org=cs 1.6 for the time been.
2012-07-19 01:51:16
Yeah, because $5000 is a lot of money.


This isn't a "conspiracy", its a "hey, try to get people to play that".
2012-07-18 22:35:18
http://bit.ly/NBDCbW
2012-07-17 14:03:56
What if Valve doesnt want to upgrade cs 1.6





because they dont want to share profits with the original creators of the 1.6 mod
2012-07-17 20:03:54
OMG
2012-07-16 13:27:23
epic fail by eswc
2012-07-16 13:27:24
This isn't a fail, because even if they would keep cs, the cashprize would have been really low, they also wanna test CS:GO as an eSportgame which won't succeed hopefully.
2012-07-16 17:28:24
eswc failed when preffer cs:go than 1.6
2012-07-17 00:49:39
you obviously didn't read my post.
2012-07-17 01:09:31
still eswc fail...
2012-07-17 01:35:28
eswc fails...
2012-07-17 10:42:40
still eswc fail
2012-07-17 12:33:08
lol at you guys, you will never be in the organisation of any tournaments, do you think that by keeping cs, eswc would have rebirth the game ?
2012-07-17 12:53:54
eswc still fail
2012-07-17 12:55:09
fail eswc still
2012-07-17 14:34:49
*eswc still fails
2012-07-17 20:56:19
still fail eswc

PS : If you were trying to correct me I'm just making fun of these idiots.
2012-07-17 23:57:12
Keep buying 'dem VALVE!
2012-07-16 13:27:26
CS confirmed as dead?
2012-07-16 13:27:33
You & me... we are here... other thousand of ppl are also here... how can it be dead ?
2012-07-16 13:28:40
no money!
no tournaments!
But you can still continue playing on public servers.
2012-07-16 13:34:56
that's what i mean ;)
2012-07-16 13:40:00
+1 - It's sad that most of the tournaments have given it up, but I will still play mixes, cups, public, dm etc. :)
2012-07-16 18:30:07
And mixes, pcws, gathers, ESL..
2012-07-16 13:45:51
Pro scene is dead =(
2012-07-16 14:12:46
no more hosters for CS .. this is the big problem
2012-07-16 14:29:59
you mad brooo ? :DDDDDDD
2012-07-16 16:31:49
GG.
2012-07-16 13:27:48
Good bye CS
2012-07-16 13:28:03
Good work, ESWC, you killed CS 1.6, idiots...
2012-07-16 13:28:57
"ShootMania Storm
TrackMania Nations"
WAT?
2012-07-16 13:29:01
Well those games are truly great :). Eventhough TrackMania's community seems to be not so large, ShootMania will be HUGE I think :)
2012-07-16 13:46:28
Haven't played it, but ShootMania from screenshots looks like a game similar to Unreal Tournament and Tribes; is that right? As good as either of those might have been, their popularity died out pretty fast. What makes you think this game will be different?
2012-07-16 16:59:58
because quake teams will switch to this game, some top pro player already said it.

Post edited 2012-07-16 17:29:36
2012-07-16 17:29:30
you're joking right?
2012-07-16 21:28:11
why ?Because I said top players will switch to shootmania ?Well if you are informed you should know then.
2012-07-17 01:10:10
The general consensus from the quake community is that this game is too simple and shit so very few teams will "switch"
2012-07-17 15:30:30
they won't stop quake, it's like BW players who are playing both games atm, but they will play the shootmania tournaments.
av3k, Cypher and strenx are some of those players.

Post edited 2012-07-17 17:29:26
2012-07-17 17:29:13
+1111111111111111

Tekken Tag Tournamement? WAT

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
2012-07-16 13:48:47
tekken fucking rocks moron
2012-07-16 23:09:15
tekken is really good but there is no way to replace cs 1.6....
2012-07-17 10:45:06
money, money, money tudu
2012-07-16 13:55:24
Those games like trackmania was created specially for ESWC, + Nadeo is a french brand so its normal that they want to promote it.
2012-07-16 15:14:03
oh i c
thanks
dunno it
2012-07-16 16:10:26
+1
2012-07-16 19:40:55
shootmania replacing quake, whats your problem?
TMN always been there
2012-07-16 19:58:07
g_G
2012-07-16 13:29:02
No LoL either I see.
2012-07-16 13:29:15
sux , fuck ESWC
2012-07-16 14:15:52
LoL will have a side tournament like CS:GO
2012-07-16 14:55:24
But only for local teams
2012-07-16 16:13:07
At least we have Dota 2 !
2012-07-16 16:33:53
YEEEES
2012-07-16 17:29:57
because its a shit game compared to dota2
2012-07-16 19:58:38
completely different games
2012-07-17 14:41:33
By cs
2012-07-16 13:29:25
gg and goodbye
2012-07-16 13:29:29
eswc is a big fail anyway. they still have debts?
imo, they are more deaded then cs1.6

Post edited 2012-07-16 13:29:57
2012-07-16 13:29:40
deaded =))))
2012-07-16 13:38:32
=))) he killed it
2012-07-16 13:46:41
Old ESWC still owe money to neo & co., but there has been new organizers for some time now.
2012-07-16 14:20:01
well i guess the change where CounterStrike 1.6 dies in the proffesional scene is coming, awaiting a new game wich is like 10x worse then cs, but sure.

Instead of just making better graphic but keeping the 1.6 feeling. Seems odd.
2012-07-16 13:31:17
expected
2012-07-16 13:31:37
GG cs
2012-07-16 13:31:44
can't wait to see shootmania
2012-07-16 13:31:59
a bad parody of quake 3
2012-07-16 13:36:38
not for me
2012-07-16 13:37:08
its completely different to q3 in everyway bar rockets and rails.....
2012-07-16 20:11:15
but its boring
2012-07-16 20:24:43
+1

After playing QWorld, Q3, UT99, UT04, PK, Warsow and QL for a long time I really don't get why there's so much hype about shootmania. It's so boring.
2012-07-16 20:28:07
me 2, it ROCKS! I'm so impressed by its level of esport capability etc. so excited..
2012-07-16 13:41:18
its a really great game
2012-07-16 16:49:20
quake is better but yeah not so bad
2012-07-16 17:30:32
naa original quake is better
2012-07-17 20:44:53
gg ;(
2012-07-16 13:33:09
I sincerely hope you guys will support CS:GO, Most of you guys hating on it I guess you havent played the game...
There are problems yes, It's in beta, what do you expect?
I had my beta key for about 2 months now and I enjoy the game ALOT, I love everything except sound and the recoil of non snipers wich is why I only use AWP, close to it.
Movement is not the best, I miss bhoping but as far as the crouchwalk or whatever you say in english, I love that It's gone, I think that sort of ruined the game when some guy thought of it, the sound werent as reliable anymore.

So from a quite old school and die hard CS 1.6 fan wich apart from alot of you have realized that we wont have 1.6 in big tournaments anymore, I hope you support CS:GO and give it time to improve, 1.6 was not the perfect game that you play today from the beginning and there are still bugs in it today.
Support GO from beta till the full release, continue to support it, give Valve feedback and perhaps we will have our new game!
2012-07-16 13:33:10
I have i played it i have 80 hours on steam but its shit. You cant change my opinion by only saying words, they have to do something make the game better otherwise its shit. Play some CSP and you will see what a great game is. CSGO is in the same category with CoD, Battlefield and all those shitty fcked up games for kids.

Post edited 2012-07-16 13:36:42
2012-07-16 13:36:29
supp +1
2012-07-16 13:45:53
CSP sux.better play CS:GO
2012-07-16 14:06:59
you're wrong.
2012-07-16 14:55:37
+1
2012-07-16 14:47:41
+1 !!
2012-07-16 14:55:09
1
2012-07-16 15:06:09
this
2012-07-16 15:15:29
how can you even say that battlefield is for kids, such a mess...
2012-07-16 20:13:09
+1
2012-07-16 21:15:50
I did't play the game yet (not only because it's beta , but because i don't have monster pc), but i see some review's & clips ... i can say something like that---> "I will not gona eat sh*ts , just because they are masked as a chocolate" ... i hope you understand me ... no ofence ;)
2012-07-16 13:38:03
ahahha nice xd
2012-07-22 09:28:38
rather play cspromod..
2012-07-16 13:51:55
i would rather play CoD than that bs
2012-07-16 14:15:02
First off, I've played it for months now.

"It will be good." This argument has been parroted for almost a year now. At the beginning people said it would be good when it got out of beta; even you say "it's in beta", but with its release about a month away, it's clear it won't suddenly become good once it's out of beta, so why are you mentioning it? Put another way, you are saying it is not good but could be....Guess what? So could literally any other game, but that doesn't mean every other game will be good eventually.

IF it ever becomes good, people will play it. If it doesn't, it'll die off. So, what's the point of making the argument to support it while is sucks? People will switch if it gets better. People won't--and shouldn't--if it doesn't.

Finally, your last paragraph implies that 1.6 fans should want CS:GO to thrive because 1.6 is done competitively. Why is this? 1.6 fans should want CS:GO to become popular solely because they share a name? Or are you one of the people yelling, "The community should stay together and unite with Source's by all switching to GO!" Either way, the community grew up around 1.6 solely because it is a great game. If GO sucks--and so far it does--then many players won't switch, and those that do will leave shortly. If you really want the community to stay together, find a good team fps for everyone to play. That is the only way to keep the community together, to unite under a game with the same qualities as 1.6, not a game solely sharing its name.
2012-07-16 17:20:07
There's a major patch coming for the sound and annoying stuff such as silencer for the colt.
Open beta is arriving soon when they will get ALOT more feedback and can fix more things.

What I'm saying is this... We shouldnt cheer for CS:GO because it share it's name we should HELP cs:go because It's the closest to counter strike there is.
ProMod is also out and they're giving out a major patch soon I believe, have to see how good that is.
2012-07-17 03:50:36
Thanks for the info about the patch! Is there a date scheduled for that, do you know?

Also your point about helping cs:go now while the devs are still working on it and it's closest to 1.6 now is well received. I'm going to jump on and play now and get some thoughts down. :D

edit: just want to add if it wasn't clear that i appreciate the thoughtful reply

Post edited 2012-07-17 06:48:22
2012-07-17 06:47:41
+111111
2012-07-17 10:53:54
I believe that there is no more people to watch ESWC till now! God bless CS 1.6
2012-07-16 13:33:55
gg wp cs. fu eswc
2012-07-16 13:34:44
Fuck this shit.
2012-07-16 13:35:37
Good Bye CS = Good Bye hltv.org
U like this?

Post edited 2012-07-16 13:45:00
2012-07-16 13:36:12
I cannot think of anything more awesome than that.
2012-07-17 10:04:24
ESWC , SEC , WCG , IEM...
2012-07-16 13:36:38
After this year:

GameGune, CPH, DreamHack and all tournaments will drop cs.
2012-07-16 13:39:29
whats left anyways?

GameGune, CPH, both DreamHack editions, ASUS Cup...?
2012-07-16 15:33:19
Why CSProMod can't replace CS 1.6??????
2012-07-16 13:37:00
good question.
2012-07-16 13:44:15
Because it is not a valve game, and you know the money that goes behind for such championships are held. CSPromod is a great game. infinite times better than CSS, but has no money for sponsoring the championships. this is MY opnion of crap.
2012-07-16 13:47:26
+1 CS 1.6 >>CSP>>>>CS:S>CS:GO
2012-07-16 14:48:15
Blatantly wrong. Go read the interview with Carmac. Games are chosen based on their international popularity, not because game creators or sponsors want them included.
2012-07-16 17:23:13
valve have stated they arent going to put money behind csgo liek they have done with dota2's international so that argument is invalid, CSP shot themselves in the foot when they failed to release updates to a what was a broken game at the time
2012-07-16 20:16:01
+1 CSP>CSGO=CSS
2012-07-16 14:00:29
Because it's not done and it isn't a big corporacy game.
2012-07-16 14:19:21
ffffffffffffff
2012-07-16 13:37:04
the thing is cs:go ins't targeting us, oldies. they are spotting kids <14 yo. it's impossible for us to go with another game, no matter what, and they know that.

how can you switch to another game and follow the scene? what memories with the new game you may have?

you wont be able to do white nights in icafe`s like you did with 1.6 for several years, you won't have even time to play from home, because most of us have a job now, maybe a family and so forth.

so it's normal to follow other targets, but the problems with the kids nowadays is that they play shitty console games and angry birds.
2012-07-16 13:37:13
That comment make sense ... Big bravo!
2012-07-16 13:41:20
I basically feel the same as you right now but I must agree that the golden times were much earlier. (those where you head to the local LAN to play CS etc)
These recent years were great for CS & I kept following PRO scene but the real feeling of CS was till 2006 (for me). It was just our age or just the way games were back then (simple but insane gameplay).
Anyway, completely agree that game nowadays are shit compared to the older ones.
2012-07-16 13:56:40
you are right about the target audience, but when cs first came out, what memories were there at the start? thing with csgo is that it comes with memories of 3 and even more different competitive games, 1.6, source and CoD.
2012-07-16 20:18:02
none. i was saying that they are targeting kids, not us, oldies, because we don't have the time on our side anymore.

what they can't see is that these kids have other way of life. they are playing in smartphones and other gadgets.

in conclusion, they will lose us, oldies, and they wont have a mass of new young users. on the other hand, maybe they will sell 20.000.000 keys for the game and that's the success for them. i don't thing they even intend to create a lastlong game for pro scene.

2012-07-17 09:46:34
it was exactly the same when, for instance source came out, i was 14 when it came out, started 1.6 a month before source came out, and kids nowadays arent all on consoles, there is still a huge following off pc gamers under 16
2012-07-17 20:41:48
KILLERS
2012-07-16 13:37:46
Tekken Tag Tournament 2
lol ahhahaahhaha
2012-07-16 13:37:55
SHOOTMANIA STORM! FUCK YEAH! the ONLY fps game after original CS I've been excited about and waiting for!
2012-07-16 13:39:38
It's a bad copy of quake if you ask me
2012-07-16 14:03:54
its not trying to copy quake at all
2012-07-16 15:18:25
R.I.P CS 1.6
2012-07-16 13:40:02
CS16 only die if the community leave, I will continue playing my CS16. And I'm sure many, like me, will also.

Post edited 2012-07-16 13:41:47
2012-07-16 13:41:34
oh yeah, that will keep CS 1.6 alive...
2012-07-16 13:53:21
and what do you think you did not surrender to the CS16 CSSource?
2012-07-16 18:12:29
They obviously want bankrupcy again. Let them have it.

Edit: They dont even give out prices anyway.

Post edited 2012-07-16 13:42:31
2012-07-16 13:42:07
face it bro, those games have much more potential than CS 1.6!
2012-07-16 13:53:59
WTF? FUCK ESWC no R.I.P cs 1.6 fiwish
2012-07-16 13:44:17
cs is already dead
2012-07-16 13:46:20
well its dead on a professional level but I will keep playing the game anyway
2012-07-16 14:06:26
by: tinc
#57
So sad...
2012-07-16 13:44:20
cs is not dead....ppl will stil play....but there would be nothing to follow...with no big tournaments..
2012-07-16 13:44:53
Everything nice one day end. well, lets say that 11 years were nice and see you on some public ;).
2012-07-16 13:46:20
cs: go will be a frustration and 1.6 will be back
2012-07-16 13:46:45
i pray for this every day.
2012-07-16 13:48:05
+1
2012-07-16 14:18:27
+1
2012-07-17 08:36:46
I dont understand :/
2012-07-16 13:47:50
a fucking moeny talks world.
2012-07-16 14:04:00
by: PooN
#72
it's been an Honor with you guys on HLTV.org all the time.
2012-07-16 13:49:39
:D titanic <3
2012-07-16 14:23:58
Every cs event started small, just start making some regional tournaments in your country, and try to get bigger and bigger... sponsors will come.

Here in Portugal we are trying that, cs its pretty alive... So, if you want to keep playing your favorite game, help your own community grow.
2012-07-16 13:54:31
in Portugal its alive and full of noobs K1CK don't give a chance to any team there, they win everything they attend, I dont see how's that gives you enjoyment watching a game and you're like oh the winner K1CK. and if its only starting to grow now its kinda late my friend
2012-07-16 13:59:46
K1CK took 4 years to get to the "unbeatable" level in Portugal, so don't expect a team to stand a chance against them from the night to the day, it will take time.
2012-07-16 14:29:53
the only team who could beat them were defs don't know what happen to them and if they are constantly changing there line-up thats bad. there like oh lets play with this one 1 or 2 weeks after there like okay lets get this little bastard out see another one. that's such a bad move imo the chemistry of team it builds with time, you have WinFakt (ex-LemonDogs) they are a group of friends that's really good. But sure you're right not from night to the day but man long time. I think if fox went to another team K1CK would be no more top 1 in portugal. another player that I heard was SHOUW don't know what happen to him either and he was really good he had potential. Name the top3 teams of portugal currently if you know
2012-07-16 14:41:30
Look, although our professional scene is like you said, flawless, the scene here is alive, there are lots of gather channels, tournaments, LAN-houses which organize tournaments. You go to #k1ck at Quakenet, there are lots and lots of players looking for 5on5/2on2 etc... So yeah, our unprofessional scene is alive and K1cking :)
2012-07-16 14:44:51
well online its good and if you have tournaments coming up that's good too, i'm not like trying to be negative about your scene of gaming in portugal as long you keep it "alive and k1cking" show some talents to the community, cuz, you know talking about portuguese its always "omfg fox his a beast easily one of the best players in the world" a lot but a lot of fan boys, hope he proves himself in gamegune against the pro's I know he alreay did, I would like to see K1CK beat lurppis that would be fun to watch (hard to happen though) :p
2012-07-16 14:53:47
Hahaha, yeah I would like to see k1ck beating lurppis' team. We have some nice talents here but they don't have oportunities, and not all Portuguese people are "omfg fox best!", I'm not! fox's a very good player, I even bet if he was swedish, he might had some other opurtunities, but he doesn't speak English very well, which sucks
2012-07-16 15:01:00
I can't fucking believe it!
2012-07-16 13:54:35
Well as all LANs are dropping 1.6 duttdutt becomes the best team in the world...
2012-07-16 13:58:23

ahaha
2012-07-16 15:12:54
haha =P
2012-07-16 15:21:47
LOL You made me laugh though this news are shit xD
2012-07-16 16:04:42
maybe those big tournaments drop cs 1.6 they all flop this year and nxt year news is we are very sry for last year :)
2012-07-16 13:58:25
maybe we should start unlike the pages of these organizers that dropped cs :D
2012-07-16 13:59:08
Does ShootMania Storm, TrackMania Nations and Tekken Tag Tournament 2 bring them any money? Who plays this shit professionaly?
2012-07-16 13:59:31
There are THOUSANDS who play those games professionally but that number aint nothing compared to the no. of players that play 1.6
2012-07-16 14:28:09
My prediction of news to come:

1) Sponsors dropping their sponsorship from various teams and organisations.

2) Organisations dropping their CS divisions all around.

3) Players retiring one by one.

See ya.
2012-07-16 13:59:33
by: PooN
#96
agree
2012-07-16 14:09:38
well if there are no tournaments to play, there is no point in sponsoring , so yeah gg wp 1.6
2012-07-16 14:43:59
sadly =(
2012-07-16 15:22:00
sad
2012-07-16 17:31:54
cs go wont come somewhere i promise.
2012-07-16 13:59:36
sad
2012-07-16 14:04:42
fucking noobs eswc :)
2012-07-16 14:09:36
more tournaments will follow as WCG already did.
2012-07-16 17:31:22
Now m damn sure that World is gonna end in 2012..
Thank You cs for ruining my lyf nd still Doing it...But m' loving It !!!
GOD BLESS These ESWC,WCG and all Tournaments..
2012-07-16 14:10:01
nice CS:GO!
2012-07-16 14:11:23
ESWC-now low tournament
2012-07-16 14:11:48
What we should do right now is to rebuild our scene once again. I mean, CS won't ever be in a spotlight again, more and more players will retire, but we should try to run our own events based on CS 1.6. As long as we are playing the game and having fun competing in it, it is worth giving a shot.
2012-07-16 14:12:04
O M G .... IDIOTS .. BEST GAME IN HISTORY ITS CS 1.6 R.I.P. :( ... fuck off csgo cs:s cs:cz and all games for kids ...
2012-07-16 14:13:19
The Wonder Years. 1999-2012.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ob59hsRaFU
2012-07-16 14:14:05
one of my favourite shows.
2012-07-16 17:18:51
Gamegune will be the last event with Counter-Strike...
2012-07-16 14:15:59
dreamhack ?
2012-07-16 14:31:36
It's considered among the community, that DH Winter not gonna feature cs 1.6. When on hltv.org was popular a rumor about qualification on Gamegune for DH Winter, so then DH orga sent a message to hltv.org, saying like : "Oh, don't hope for cs 1.6 very much, we haven't announce any news yet." So I don't think that we will see cs 1.6 anywhere except GameGune. We need Arbalet :)
2012-07-17 01:23:44
fuck who killed this game fuck him
2012-07-16 14:16:24
IEM , WCG , e-Stars Seoul , ESWC bad :(
2012-07-16 14:16:26
R.I.P CS 1.6
2012-07-16 14:17:46
R.I.P 1.6
2012-07-16 14:19:32
Let's all play CS:GO then, and make it the future counter-strike you all want to see. If you all sit here and whine about poor or the lack of beta-features, then they surely won't be in there.
2012-07-16 14:21:19
Do you seriously believe Valve will remake all mechanics a month before release? It's cute how naive you are, poor child.

Post edited 2012-07-16 20:00:43
2012-07-16 20:00:36
I don't want or expect to see them re-make all the mechanics, the game is very much playable the way it is now. With the new sound-system coming out, it should be a pretty complete game.

Things like the spray-recoil, maps and balance-tuning can easily be done over time and should be, as opinions on those matters are very much subjective.
2012-07-18 09:49:24
A lot of mechanics are severely broken, for example, the movement.
2012-07-19 00:28:21
nice dota 2 <3 aaand shootmania, also very good

Post edited 2012-07-16 14:22:38
2012-07-16 14:21:57
They still killing the CS competetive scene, what a fools.
2012-07-16 14:22:10
Players leave the game too... no more good teams in france.
2012-07-16 14:34:18
But please say no, they're not switching to CS:GO?
2012-07-16 14:35:35
NO :D (only css players, I guess)
Me and others friends are playing Shootmania =)
2012-07-16 14:37:22
who cares if cs 1.6 is no more in WCG,ESWC,IEM etc. i still play cs and enjoy, i didnt participate in those tournaments when they had cs, so it hardly matters for me xD
2012-07-16 14:24:09
+1

It does matter a little bit though... I liked watching pro gamers play at a super high level as well, which i can't, any more.
2012-07-16 15:10:01
Yiehaaa fucking fanboys, time to move on
2012-07-16 14:33:38
Sad to hear.
2012-07-16 14:33:55
we must face the facts, cs 1.6 is dead. Even if everybody here don't want to play csp, css, csgo.

:(((((((((((
2012-07-16 14:34:29
LOL, it's not like i was participating in IEM, WCG, ESWC anyways. I will continue playing it as normal.
2012-07-16 15:08:59
I want to play CSP!
2012-07-16 15:17:53
slow death for cs 1.6
2012-07-16 14:35:30
Does anybody know if Trackmania's tracks have already been announced?
2012-07-16 14:35:34
shit happens
2012-07-16 14:35:56
within few months cs is dead iem,wcg,eseoul,and now eswc ..

Post edited 2012-07-16 14:38:19
2012-07-16 14:36:26
WCG and ESCW without CS 1.6 and League of Legends = fail , maybe VALVE pay for removing a CS 1,6 from tournaments but it doesnt matter , the popularity of these tournaments will go down and organizes will realize what mistake they did :D
I bet that few months after these tournaments we will see "NO PAYMENTS FROM WCG ORGANIZES " etc etc :D sponsors dont care about games , they want to pplz see their products and freaking logos :D
LESS PEOPLES = LESS PUBLICITY = MORE DISAPPOINTMENT
2012-07-16 14:38:19
I guess you are right...
2012-07-16 18:18:24
I guess he's wrong as always!
2012-07-17 00:56:30
sad but it`s all about money
2012-07-16 14:40:11
TRACKMANIA!? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDIN ME?
2012-07-16 14:41:45
ESWC were the partners of TrackMania since the beginning of this game

Post edited 2012-07-16 14:46:41
2012-07-16 14:46:29
Stll, if you had to drop a game, would you drop 1.6 who had BIG audiences? Or drop TM who didn't have audiences at all?
2012-07-16 14:48:59
1.6 doesn't even have a medium audience. end of discussion.
TM has its audience and is a 1v1 game which means lower travel expenses and smaller prizes.
2012-07-16 15:02:09
TM has and audience?!?!

Hell no!

This "browser-game" is very entertaining to play for some days/weeks but it gets boring quite fast and I'm 100% sure nobody really wants to watch other people playing it.
2012-07-16 15:21:56
+1
2012-07-16 16:11:15
I would hope you research things, let's be honest if people enjoy the game they will watch tournaments and pro players strutt their stuff. Cricket as a sport probably isn't the biggest sport in the world but it still attracts large numbers in the crowd. Darts is a minor sport but still gets millions of viewers.

CS viewing numbers have been eclipsed by a recent console LAN in Europe which had 110 clans participate in an well over 150k spectators watch a poxy CoD tournament.

Just because you believe another game is inferior does not mean it doesn't have justifiable audience views!
2012-07-17 01:01:06
TM got released in 2003/04. It was a part of ESWC, WCG, ... but:
Where is the trackmania community? Where are the scene news? Where are the 10000000 fan-videos? Where are the legendary pro-players? Where are the 100k live-viewers? Where are the live-commentators and the replays? ...

When it comes to esport Trackmania is, was and will always be a promotion-titel, nothing more.
Don't get me wrong. I don't have a problem with TM. It's fun to play from time to time, but it's clearly not an esport-titel like SC, CS, WC3 and Quake are.
2012-07-17 01:15:40
Don't ask me why they've dropped cs, but since TM was created by a French company called Nadeo, which in '06 created a free TrackMania Nations version special for ESWC, so they probably have something in common and don't want to drop their local game.

By the way, organisations, such as dignitas, have their TM squad, so the game isn't so bad, if you ask me.

Post edited 2012-07-16 15:03:35
2012-07-16 15:03:06
:DD
2012-07-16 16:11:57
Why aren't you in Steam? :(
2012-07-16 16:12:43
@ the office :D . the last week i was off :DD see ya tonight :DD
2012-07-16 16:14:33
cya =D
2012-07-16 16:16:23
just don't stop playing CS 1.6, don't play those sh*its like CS:GO.
2012-07-16 14:42:19
You'll all gonna have to do what I did:

http://imageshack.us/f/268/dothis.png/

Post edited 2012-07-16 14:43:17
2012-07-16 14:42:44
So now we can say that there is only 4 MAJOR tournaments left:

Copenhagen Games (already passed this year)
DreamHack Summer (same)
GameGune
DreamHack Winter
2012-07-16 14:44:01
+ WEM
2012-07-16 14:45:14
really really sad.
2012-07-16 14:47:08
Good Bye CS & CS:S

SHIT CS:GO
2012-07-16 14:48:59
Holy fuck.. The end is near :(
2012-07-16 14:49:15
FFS guys. CS will die for what you are doing. Fuckin events.
2012-07-16 14:50:33
See you later 1.6

...

2012-07-16 14:50:39
What if they pick cs next year?? I am sure they will pick 1.6 back i am sure i am sure
2012-07-16 14:51:14
How ? :]
2012-07-16 14:53:25
No LoL, No CS GG ESWC.. -.-
2012-07-16 14:54:06
no one watch this shit
2012-07-16 14:55:02
didnt watch
2012-07-16 14:55:23
SC2 and DOTA 2 are the only competitive games left that are worth playing in ESWC

Post edited 2012-07-16 15:00:25
2012-07-16 14:59:32
ok :(
2012-07-16 15:01:45
iem dropped it
wem dropped it
estars dropped it
wcg dropped it
eswc dropped it
dreamhack might drop it

it died as a competitive game...its ok by me i play it since 2001 i'm fine with it
2012-07-16 15:01:53
cs 1.6 down :)))
2012-07-16 15:01:58
And Cs 1.6 died in 2012:D
2012-07-16 15:05:09
its not dead, not like CS:Source at least :) it still has 300k playing every day, its just that tournament organizers drop the game so they can focus on newer games.
2012-07-16 18:13:35
Faking numbers still are we? When will you learn?
2012-07-17 01:02:59
check regularly those gametracker style pages, I have seen CS hit 300k on a weekend (obviously non-steam users are the majority).

2012-07-17 01:06:05
who gives a flying fuck about pub players lmao
2012-07-17 11:38:58
300k rofl!!

I dunno, bit of a high number to pull out of the hat, are you really THAT deluded, if CS still had 300k players playing then the game would not be dropped at its current rate by tournament organisers!
2012-07-17 19:34:43
NO PROB WE WILL ALL DIE IN DECEMBER BOYS
2012-07-16 15:06:07
Really? "ShootMania Storm" has a wider audiance than CS 1.6? REALLY?
2012-07-16 15:06:58
:D:d:
2012-07-16 15:07:03
Sad
2012-07-16 15:07:54
back in 2005 l0l
2012-07-16 15:14:07
awesome news
2012-07-16 15:15:29
wtf is wrong with this world~
2012-07-16 15:16:54
21.12.2012 will come,that's the reason because they drop cs, do not regret that we have not reached a professional level(sry for bad english)

Post edited 2012-07-16 15:18:50
2012-07-16 15:17:20
Tekken Tag Tournament 2
ShootMania Storm
TrackMania Nations

ESWC I have 2 questions:
1. Are you kidding me?
2. Seriously, are you freaking kidding me?

Post edited 2012-07-16 15:22:59
2012-07-16 15:20:27
ESWC with NADEO invented Trackmania ESWC, it won't disappear from games list soon. Anyway, Trackmania is cool game, you should try it instead of playing Counter-Strike :)
2012-07-16 15:35:13
Shootmania ..Ns joke xD
2012-07-16 15:20:59
Then we need cs2
2012-07-16 15:23:46
+1
2012-07-16 16:05:08
$ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $

:(
2012-07-16 15:24:55
R.I.P. CS 1.6 ;(

Also, GameGune might be the last competetive 1.6 tournament in history, so prepare. If not GG, then DH Winter will be the last surely.

Post edited 2012-07-16 15:29:22
2012-07-16 15:28:12
CS 1.6 never die !!! cult game.
2012-07-16 15:29:01
ITS NOW OR NEVER VALVE CS:GO OR NOTHING DONT FUCK THIS GAME UP!
2012-07-16 15:29:10
Admin's from ESWC are an idiot's really.
2012-07-16 15:31:24
HOW!? ESWC how... how can you just fucking drop the game that got you to this esports level... It's like a second father to you...! This is so thankless and retarded
2012-07-16 15:34:06
Its time for 1.6 scene start making their own events instead of beeing leechers and sideshow games of much bigger games.
2012-07-16 15:34:42
Can't stop loughing ;DDDDDDDDD

Atlast, no more Counter-Strike in main events. I'm happy now.
2012-07-16 15:36:13
fu dumbass -.-
2012-07-22 09:41:34
fuck cs go :@
2012-07-16 15:37:03
We bid you a farewell.


R.I.P.
2012-07-16 15:38:54
FUCK CS:GO DONT PLAY THIS SHIT GUYS
2012-07-16 15:51:21
+
2012-07-16 16:13:02
Bye cs 1.6 :/
2012-07-16 15:54:09
With the retirement of gux,zonic,carn and many other pros 1.6 scene is not the same anymore...i guess they will pick it next year for sure or atleast they will pick CS:GO or maybe promod if its ever released.

Post edited 2012-07-16 16:03:31
2012-07-16 15:57:03
1.6 even resurrection
2012-07-16 15:58:22
Really sad... I bet that CS:GO will have only half year or more at the main tournaments. After that everyone will start to play CS 1.6 again I think. =]
2012-07-16 15:58:53
sv_restart for 1.6 next year.
2012-07-16 16:00:35
CS Promod needs to kick off!
2012-07-16 16:01:59
fuck the GO !!!
2012-07-16 16:04:35
PLEASE give us a new counter-strike 1.6

riot please buy counter strike 1.6
2012-07-16 16:05:06
dude I wish that so bad i want valve to support it's best game but they dont' give a fuck about 1.6 they don't support the game that got them to this level
2012-07-22 09:43:51
cs 1.6 never die.fuck all who believe tha cs is dead
2012-07-16 16:05:36
SHIT:(
2012-07-16 16:06:16
by: TF2
#247
wdf !
2012-07-16 16:07:03
+1 for one revolution
2012-07-16 16:07:28
This sux...after all ESWC close our FUN AND FAMILY
2012-07-16 16:10:20
cs1.6 forever in my heart, r.i.p cs
2012-07-16 16:15:41
they are keeping games that ASIANS like :) so shame so dumb. Put that money through your ass ESWC and all others who dropped CS 1.6
2012-07-16 16:18:58
Fail!
2012-07-16 16:22:04
I have got a feeling that someone rich *Valve* paid big tournaments for droping CS 1.6 to make people play CS:GO . its fucking ridiculous:D

<waiting for ESCW to make some screenshots with viewers numbers and have LOL with that>
2012-07-16 16:23:01
Just play CS:GO it's a really a good game guys...
2012-07-16 16:25:51
if you are COD fan, then its pretty good to run-and-shoot, but its not even close to CS 1.6 mechanic so, NOT.
2012-07-16 16:27:39
Have you even tried CS:GO, or are you just one of these followers who just repeat what one idiot says?
2012-07-16 17:01:31
yep i did = shit.
2012-07-16 18:21:17
And what made it shit? Because you couldn't get to grips with a game that is a little different to 1.6 and takes a bit more time to get used to?
2012-07-16 20:59:19
as I said, mechanic is different and it doesnt even remind Counter Strike in any detail.
have you ever played CS 1.6, or just watching hltv and stuff?
2012-07-17 12:31:54
Lol good response, no detailed answers, just that it's shit! Amazing!
2012-07-17 19:37:34
Of course I've played CS 1.6, and so what that CS:GO doesn't feel like 1.6? I don't wanna play 1.6 for another decade, I personally want something fresh :)
2012-07-17 20:25:54
Okay.
2012-07-17 20:49:47
I wish I could! But it seems impossible for me to get a key :(
2012-07-16 19:59:29
You'll get it soon, and we you do you'll love it! :)
2012-07-16 20:59:47
bullshit
cs 4ever
2012-07-16 20:08:19
Boy, that escalated quickly.
2012-07-16 16:33:40
fuck that games ! fuck eswc/wcg/iem <3 cs1.6
2012-07-16 16:34:14
Ok , at first we was expecting this .
let's a little be honest guys , from this cs comeptitive scene is dead , and in general fps scene is going down . As i can see no one here like cs:go , we already all played beta but you guys might wait for official realize of game cause many things gonna be fixed and so on. Thats why its beta to try out a game , me as you guys dont like csgo for many reasons but i think main reason that we compared csgo to 1.6 and this is a brand new game and things will never be the same , so lets just think differently and do not critic any try. At least dota2 is a really great game , its non a mmorpg like you guys just need to try this game :) So at eswc i gonna follow dota2 scene , and hope m5 gonna partecipate on this
2012-07-16 16:36:22
are you trying to move us to dota2? lolwut ?
2012-07-16 16:45:07
i already making part of cs 1.6 lover , and im inside of "us" word already. I said its a good alternative , if u dont like csgo . cheers
2012-07-17 20:37:26
bro , it can be a good alternative , but i want a good shooter that can sucessfully substitute 1.6 , not a moba game :)
2012-07-17 20:45:24
i hope you are not 13 yo like in your profile , cause its mean you lost a "gold age of cs" from 2006 - 2008 , if so cause u were 8 years old
2012-07-17 22:40:28
yeah , i am really 13 y.o , but i know some oldschool players , i started playing cs on 2010 :|
2012-07-17 23:17:07
EPIC FAIL BY ESWC, WCG, eStars Seoul, and more, GG GameGune and DreamHack
2012-07-16 16:46:43
Oh my god,i can't live without cs competitive scene... Valve is a company filled with retarded people! Fuck you valve,we hate cs:go, or maybe this is not cs? U can't use a legendary name of legendary to make people play shitgame! This is not cs,it's the worst copy of CoD and Battlefield 3. Screw you valve,i'm going to play 1.6. Bastards.
2012-07-16 16:55:25
+1
2012-07-16 17:07:18
valve isn't making go. hidden path is
2012-07-16 18:17:35
Don't care, me and my friends gonna play cs1.6 till we get bored.
2012-07-16 17:06:05
FUCK CS:GO
2012-07-16 17:15:03
g00dbye 1.6 =(( sad sad
2012-07-16 17:15:35
you shouldn't say that ! We must support the game that we love !!!! Don't get disappointed
2012-07-16 17:17:53
yeah!! But with so many bad news! And I will always support the 1.6!
WE MUST ALL SUPPORT THE 1.6
2012-07-16 17:24:59
+1
2012-07-16 18:17:24
not anymore , our support does not count anymore . let's grow up once and change the habbits
2012-07-17 20:39:17
Now I hate ESWC ... FUCK CS:GO!!!
Go CS 1.6, We <3 YOU :)

Post edited 2012-07-16 17:21:36
2012-07-16 17:21:00
+1
2012-07-16 17:27:20
Fuck all of this, I love CS 1.6 and please do not let this game die! I still believe in this beautiful game. Goodbye CS 1.6? Goodbye hltv.org. I play for almost 2 years and I just love 1.6! Please, please don't fuck this game, CS:GO it's very bad!! I STILL BELIEVE IN CS 1.6. Why are people trying to end 1.6? Almost everybody want to continue playing 1.6, why fucking CS:GO??? Fuck you Valve, fuck you ESWC and fuck you CS:GO!
2012-07-16 17:21:38
+1
2012-07-16 17:27:09
CS:GO no fucking way.
SUPER MARIO is better
2012-07-16 17:26:43
Tetris is better ! or maybe Nitendo
2012-07-16 17:27:45
nice ESWC !!!
2012-07-16 17:27:38
We need a man like Che Guevara, but for cs 1.6 :)

REVOLUTION!
2012-07-16 17:28:32
Why not? We can write to Valve!
2012-07-16 17:32:19
They don't give a fuck about us.

Valve <3 Money
2012-07-16 17:34:09
Valve <3 money?
Valve's games are the cheapest. And after 1 year, it costs about 1/2 of original price. Look for example on Call of duties, these games are 5 years old and it costs still about 40€. Valve switched TF2 to F2P and they're creating Dota 2 which will be F2P too and they love money? o.O
2012-07-16 19:28:22
Ohh sorry, they hate money. Their hobby is to make games, just for fun.
Man, money is more important to valve than 1.6 fans, that's all i'm saying.
2012-07-16 19:48:37
of course they need money for creating games and for themselves but I think they are pretty good for their gamers on this way.
2012-07-16 19:51:38
STEAM made by VALVE = MONEY$$$?! CS:GO ,a css clone without anything new except flashier graphics on an engine of their other games without any money spent on a story/campaign nor voice acting nor other high quality elements = 15e? It's an okey price but honestly what new does cs:go bring?
2012-07-17 21:13:46
Everything. CSGO is a completely different game.
2012-07-18 01:46:41
We need to prepare a fucking army and kick ESWC's organizers asses
2012-07-16 17:33:34
I'm in!
2012-07-16 17:35:05
I'm on it, 1.6 fucked Sorce and can fuck CS:GO too! Must believe in 1.6.
2012-07-16 17:35:18
buahahah
StarCraft 2
Dota 2
ShootMania Storm
TrackMania Nations
FIFA 13
Tekken Tag Tournament 2

how this fucking games can beat CS 1.6 ?? BUAHAHAHAHAH OMG IT'S A NICE JOKE BUAHAHAHAHHA I CANT STOP LAUGH !!!!!!!

Post edited 2012-07-16 17:30:53
2012-07-16 17:30:36
It's not these games, who have beaten cs, it's cs:go, and the cs community who killed 1.6
2012-07-16 17:33:18
CS community killed 1.6? What? Same community keeping it alive since LoL and SC2 came out...
2012-07-16 17:40:56
I meant that a lot of cs players stopped playing it since a while, without players, you can't keep the game alive.
2012-07-16 18:57:05
Yeah, i'm agree with you but the main reason here is CS:GO (with Valve supporting this shit).
2012-07-16 19:48:33
sv_restart 1year
2012-07-16 17:31:43
hehehe u made my day bro !
2012-07-16 19:19:18
seriously?

The presidents must be really fucking morons.
2012-07-16 17:32:11
CSP to replace 1.6
CS:GO for console
Please make it happen.
2012-07-16 17:35:19
R.I.P e-Sport
2012-07-16 17:36:12
e-Sport? Counter strike is a small part of e-Sport.
2012-07-18 01:47:49
quake, cs...this is e-Sport! lol or wc3 is a freaking joke.
2012-07-18 14:26:21
nice, i'm wait for cs;go
2012-07-16 17:36:32
What the fuck? I mean,1.6 had like 50k spectators in finals last year. @_@ And the CS:GO is just a bad game... Good news there's no source too. :D

Post edited 2012-07-16 17:41:32
2012-07-16 17:36:48
Just keep playing and don't stop believing!
2012-07-16 17:51:33
IEM,WCG,ESWC are now officially not part of our community anymore, they turned the back on us, its better if we do the same to them.

I bet tournament organizers got in agreement to drop CS this year all together, we should stop watching their events for the sake of OUR community. We as consumers should be respected and not played by tournament organizers.

I still enjoy the game and playing 5vs5 with my friends (the few times I can), I won't play anything else because some executives don't want to make tournaments of my favourite game. fuck them.

Post edited 2012-07-16 18:05:14
2012-07-16 18:03:50
it will be like CZ on WCG 2004 and CSS on WCG 05, will be featured by one year only
2012-07-16 18:12:06
+1
2012-07-16 18:22:24
idiots... 1.6 4ever
2012-07-16 18:15:49
idiots.
2012-07-16 18:19:44
memory of counter strike 1.6 :(
2012-07-16 18:22:15
LOOOL
2012-07-16 18:23:18
wtf :|
2012-07-16 18:39:08
bad bad bad
2012-07-16 18:44:45
i think they did that because they lack of money


and if they do a small tournament for cs 1.6 like cs:go no one will come xD

the only fps game is the new one shootmania ?

ALOT of Visitors wont ATTEND thats for sure.

You need atleast one FPS/RTS/RPG/... that has alot of fans but here u cant see any good fps title go search the logic into that

only Dota and starcraft roxxxxes
2012-07-16 18:53:42
CS:GO is even worse than Source -.-
2012-07-16 19:00:23
have you even played it?? csgo handles 100000x better than shitty source ...you cant even strafe properly in source ...or peek corners accurately
2012-07-16 19:08:09
CSGO has worse maps (css demoversion :D), terrible dd2 cata, molotovs, ugly skins, weird recoil [for example AK47 has recoil like MP7 from HL2] and de_train...? CSS is much better than this shit
2012-07-16 19:34:25
Yeah, i played it (i got it as Shift in my Steam acc) and i think that any version of CS is better than this shit xd
2012-07-16 19:50:15
WooHoo was waiting for this to happen. Thank you ESWC.

The last time u did this Source got fucked and 1.6 returned to glory and now its CS:GO's turn.
2012-07-16 19:01:43
gg, make last big tourney to say goodbye to cs 1.6 for 100 000E ! :)
2012-07-16 19:02:17
so its begun
2012-07-16 19:03:36
bb
2012-07-16 19:05:26
F$%! every organization !! going to have some fun with my baby 1.6 ! LONG LIVE 1.6
2012-07-16 19:17:52
fuck all the big tournaments.
CS 1.6 still alive in our hearths...
2012-07-16 19:21:31
Well... It's over guys.
2012-07-16 19:29:42
CSOL 2 > CS:GO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcjFO1GxQR4
2012-07-16 19:35:57
CS:O2 shit too

CS:O2 is csgo + css + 1.6 barricade
2012-07-16 19:51:12
Its all about tourmanet ....
cant be dead when milions of players playing online .
Long Live CS 1.6 we dont leave to die
the best game ever made that's 4 sure
:)
2012-07-16 19:38:45
really sad
2012-07-16 19:39:37
End of an era ;) No majors for CS anymore.. I'll recommend to you guys to enjoy GameGune as never before.
2012-07-16 19:44:11
seriously?
Bye cs 1.6 :'(
2012-07-16 19:45:23
FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!
2012-07-16 19:47:56
it's so sad
2012-07-16 19:48:22
wow u dont say?... ofc that cs:go would now be main fps game when they share about 10000free keys or more to any one on ESL who ever played CS:S... u are so boring guys "Cs die kme kme, am gonna kill my self right now.." etc. stop whine
2012-07-16 19:52:44
CS 1.6 IS DEAD NOW, WHO SAYS NOT?
2012-07-16 19:58:11
SpawN has played in ShootMania, and you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRNflXp1CcU :)
2012-07-16 20:07:27
we wouldn't play DT anymore
2012-07-16 20:09:07
ooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!
2012-07-16 20:11:19
Boycott CSGO, it fails, back to 1.6.

WIN
2012-07-16 20:12:25
FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFUFUFUFUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU
2012-07-16 20:23:25
finally!!!
2012-07-16 20:26:38
GameGune drops CS
and ...
2012-07-16 20:39:41
OMG FAKKK FCK U ALL sry about this but fck:))))



2012-07-16 20:39:56
lol FIFA 13 is releaset?
2012-07-16 20:41:44
At first I was like "It's understandable, CS isn't as popular as LOL or SC2 anymore."

But then I "ShootMania Storm? TrackMania Nations?
FIFA 13? In what fucking universe are these even esports titles?"

The audience for these games is tiny compared to CS. Same goes for the ricidulous WCG game choices in the last few years. What the fuck are these people smoking?
2012-07-16 20:53:56
i dont get it....just because some tournament have dropped cs 1.6 doesnt mean tht it is dead or something....if u play the game and enjoy it, i dont think anything is dead....we can still buy cs1.6 on steam and there are local tourneys everywhere, so this doesnt mean it is dead, it just means tht it is still a legit game with over 1,000,000 players...
2012-07-16 20:56:58
i remember last year this time ... watching live matches everyday... ALL TOURNAMENTS .... NO CSGO. It was a damn good time ... :(
2012-07-16 20:59:40
Sad ;(
http://tinyurl.com/7zvw8zf

Post edited 2012-07-16 21:11:47
2012-07-16 21:10:35
yes
2012-07-16 21:22:02
omg very sad... fucking retards.
I believe, cs 1.6 will return cmon!!
CS GO NEVER WIL BE LIKE CS 1.6
2012-07-16 21:17:30
CS 1.6 > CSPromod > CS:GO[to hell]
2012-07-16 21:19:35
Because the valve does not improve the 1.6? better maps .. as CS: Promod ..

version 1.7!

I think it would be better, with improved graphics I think would be successful :D



Sorry my english sucks!
2012-07-16 21:24:42
Guys, this is my honest opinion, cs dying? I dont think so, this tournaments are dropping cs, that's a bad thing for sure and the result of that isn't the death of 1.6 but the death of international community. I will give you and example, in my country 1.6 it can be all the things that u want but it isn't death for sure and I bet that in your country there are tournaments as hell too.
It's just my opinion, but I have to agree, a few years and our international community will be gone if things like this continue...
2012-07-16 21:35:11
May be WEM and CPL will be featuring CS... Who knows.
2012-07-16 21:35:42
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#443
CPL do not feature CS in 2012. Starcraft 2 and League of Legends are the games featured for their announced 2012 China event.
2012-07-16 22:10:10
So what about WEM? Didn't they pick up cs 1.6 again after dropping, even before IEM did?
2012-07-17 01:29:22
They did it but.. I don't know really because everything can happen nowadays with CS :/ http://www.hltv.org/news/8578-wem-2012-to-feature-.. let's see ;)
2012-07-17 02:58:39
I really doubt in WEM too :E
2012-07-17 03:02:23
Yep me too, and they're the same organizers of e-Stars so :(
2012-07-17 03:11:52
Why would'nt CPL feature CS 1.6 in 2012... there was a vote for cs 1.6 for being played on cpl 2012 and there were tons of votes for cs 1.6 there is no doubt if cs 1.6 won it or not.. IT DID. I do not understand why cpl would not feature cs 1.6!
2012-07-17 10:53:36
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#597
If the CPL staff took their decision on the basis of the votes the poll I wouldn't be too sure that CS 1.6 won it.
2012-07-19 00:13:44
Thanks for the info.

That's sad.
2012-07-17 11:37:18
CS:GO COMES IN !!! FUCK YEAH BABY !!! NO 1.6 ANYMORE !!!
2012-07-16 21:38:33
gl cs:go !
2012-07-16 21:51:19
omfg
2012-07-16 21:51:27
very very bad =/
2012-07-16 21:54:49
ESWC WHERE IS CS ?????????????????????
2012-07-16 22:15:28
Big indrustries need sell hardware, they cant if u only play cs1.6 , c'mon...
2012-07-16 22:39:22
ESWC dont exist anymore for me.
2012-07-16 22:55:21
Sad :(((

They can kill cs, but we will play it for our lifes. I want to say, we will allways love CS 1.6, and play it 4FUN.

ESWC, WCG and others - .!.
2012-07-16 23:15:36
Commercial World Cup ! its all about the money
2012-07-16 23:16:56
and where you live? In this days all world is just about money
MONEY>PEOPLE:/

Post edited 2012-07-16 23:39:17
2012-07-16 23:33:57
:(
2012-07-25 05:16:48
It's interesting that we don't have LoL and it's DotA2 instead.
2012-07-16 23:37:50
I do not want to believe it ((friends, this is very sad

Post edited 2012-07-16 23:41:24
2012-07-16 23:41:14
Hey, I love 1.6.. and I love Source. And I love CSGO.. thanks.
2012-07-16 23:44:32
me2 fiwish
2012-07-16 23:50:03
=( R.I.P cs
2012-07-16 23:50:51
very sad to cs 1.6 ;/

I'm really sad about it
2012-07-17 00:20:29
by: cIx
#458
painful truth mate
2012-07-17 00:29:09
it was good while it lasted..
2012-07-17 00:30:46
ShootMania Storm

OMG.. FUCK U STUPID ORGANISATION !
2012-07-17 00:35:09
idiots
2012-07-17 00:47:08
Come on guys. Go and buy half life engine and the copyrights of counter-strike and make together the 1.7 without bugs :)
2012-07-17 00:55:22
cs=dead
2012-07-17 00:57:42
:(....
2012-07-17 00:59:05
RIP CS :(
2012-07-17 00:59:52
FUCK!
2012-07-17 01:07:43
Official game titles for ESWC 2012 are:

StarCraft 2
Dota 2
ShootMania Storm
TrackMania Nations
FIFA 13
Tekken Tag Tournament 2


SUCH A PIECE OF SHIT ESWC
2012-07-17 01:38:57
sad sad sad ..
2012-07-17 01:43:52
these games comes and go but not like cs 1.6....cs 1.6 its like a golden edition in my thoughts cs 1.6 will never die...
2012-07-17 08:24:36
no IEM no ESWC ..
2012-07-17 02:42:28
obrite ga klosari, 1.6 u <3 :)
2012-07-17 02:49:03
no game will ever be like CS 1.6 :) bye bye
2012-07-17 02:55:54
CS 1.6 > ALL ?!??
I LOVE 1.6 !
2012-07-17 05:40:17
:<
2012-07-17 05:56:10
GO Facebook create grup BACK CS 1.6 :)
2012-07-17 06:34:56
RIP cs 1.6
2012-07-17 07:56:10
COD4 instead of shit CS:GO, please. ¬¬
2012-07-17 08:25:58
cs1.6 will return back.:)
2012-07-17 08:39:45
Esports seems broken without CS.
2012-07-17 09:07:03
Only thing this will do is to give rise tonnes of another "CS 1.6 Deaded" threads.
2012-07-17 10:38:28
f00l
2012-07-17 10:41:33
GG

I hope CSPromode comes and rocks and saves our asses !!
2012-07-17 10:47:24
SIFESWC


Stupid Idiots From ESWC :( .
2012-07-17 11:40:30
i don't think the CS 1.6 comunity is dying... i don't think there is lack of players or fans.. i think the organizers of tournaments are killing CS... CS 1.6 has been here for a while and yes some fans move to SC2 or something else but CS 1.6 isn't dying yet... organizers are just trying to rip that...
2012-07-17 12:22:16
WHO PLAYS CS:GO IS GAY ! :D JACK BLACKMAN TO RAPE HIM IN JAIL :D !
2012-07-17 12:34:08
+1 !
2012-07-17 12:46:47
Srry HLTV.org for these words !









FUCK ALL THOSE WHO DROPPED 1.6 , AND FUCK THOSE WHO WILL DROP IT IN THE FUTUR
2012-07-17 13:08:48
gg cs ....
2012-07-17 13:14:51
the sad fact:

WCG no CS
IEM no CS
Estar no CS
ESWC no CS
2012-07-17 13:46:45
SEC no CS
WEM no CS (?)
2012-07-19 00:15:31
You guys shud start playing shootmania..Its really awesome game!!
2012-07-17 13:49:28
" CSGO is gonna be the fucking shit "

-CAKEBUILDER


google it .
2012-07-17 14:02:48
Rofl? He commentates CSGO matches, speaks about updates and stuff for ESEA, in fact they pay him for it. Also he said CSGO was a good game himself, so that doesnt make any sense.
2012-07-17 14:31:12
you're misunderstanding the meaning behind what he said....


when someone says something is the fucking shit, they mean it is amazing.


If he said 'CSGO is gonna be shit', it would mean it's going to be bad.
2012-07-17 18:27:40
Let's create a group on Facebook for cs 1.6 to support the game. Who's with me?
2012-07-17 14:29:55
1.6 Officialy DIED
2012-07-17 14:36:15
a planned step to kill 1.6 by Valve, for sure.
2012-07-17 14:43:31
fucking fail event
2012-07-17 16:20:42
GO ARBALEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTT PLEASE
2012-07-17 16:23:39
CS has no big tournements to look forward to , well this was the final nail in the coffin ... RIP CS officially a small tourney game now ..
2012-07-17 16:38:30
and ppl still sayin "cs isnt dead" now it is, which big tournament remains? gamegune? more??
2012-07-17 17:18:35
R.I.P counter strike 1.6 :(((( <3
2012-07-17 18:22:45
Tournaments will back with CS1.6 1 or 2 years later, who is with me ?
2012-07-17 18:24:52
no1 lol..


1.6 is dead, deal with it.
2012-07-17 18:28:17
ESEA had 20k tournament. K1 league had 30k tournament. We're gonna see GameGune 2012 next week.
deal with that.
2012-07-17 22:27:13
that money isn't enough to wipe my ass clean...
2012-07-18 19:55:41
dont think so
2012-07-17 21:11:46
hotshot nidalee gg.
2012-07-17 19:19:03
Fuck :(
2012-07-17 19:45:19
FU ESWC!
2012-07-17 20:08:28
is this a joke?
2012-07-17 20:45:25
no
2012-07-17 21:00:14
CS:S community may switch CS:GO. 1.500 viewers doesn't matter at all.
but %80 of 1.6 community hated CS:GO. Last gameplay update came 4 months ago. Valve said they'renot making a competive game like 1.6 at the beginning of CS:GO.
So it's obvious we won't see any big community behind CS:GO. That's why it will never be an esport.
(Casual gamers can play CS:GO. But i don't think they will prefer CS:GO instead of BF3,MoH,COD..)
2012-07-17 22:24:39
There are plenty of examples in which an esport has a VERY small community.
2012-07-19 18:28:34
They are triying to make a competitive game, if they can finally do it or not thats another thing. The game has been in beta for one year more or less and all major changes are for the PC version (where is the most competitive scene). All that ''casual gamers'' didnt have the chance of playing competitive I can guarantee that all random those ''commentated youtube gameplays'' will love to compete and take care of the scene just as we did back in the good days of 1.6. Not only CSS and 1.6 players will play A LOT of LoL players who used to play FPS are willing to feel the adrenaline that a fps title can give you, and not only LoL, CoD4 has ''many'' players too, MW3 players are starting to realize that every year a new game equal than the previous one is just a scam (I personally hate what they did to this franchise after CoD2). Cant talk for the BF3 or SC2 community tho. If CsGo is not a succes I bet CSP wont be either, casual gamers (which is a partial target of this game) wont play a not mainstream game, as simple as that.CSP is a wonderful game dont get me wrong the first time I tried it I was amazed.

TL;DR - Well there is no TLDR
2012-07-21 04:50:20
Not competive enough.
That's what Counter-Strike is: a game of skill. And this is what CS:GO is: an effort to put anyone who has or should play Counter-Strike into the same game. That's a big enough goal but not a grand enough one to merit the name Counter-Strike 2.
2012-07-26 09:57:52
by: 511
#582
I think its time we change to csp...
2012-07-18 03:51:41
the big event of cs 1.6 is gamegune is it going to be the last event for cs 1.6?? or its just a gap for testing bullshit fps like cs go???
2012-07-18 07:58:11
FAK!
2012-07-18 13:37:19
let's try Shadow Company The Mercenary Wars :)
2012-07-18 13:44:10
fuck eswc
2012-07-18 17:04:36
feels like 2004 all over again.. ;)
2012-07-18 19:28:45
RIP cs :'(
2012-07-18 23:22:42
How can i get CS:GO key ?
2012-07-18 23:24:07
u dont
2012-07-19 04:11:08
want play one time ;pp
2012-07-19 15:28:25
i dont understand organisers of tournaments as e-Stars,WCG,ESWC,IEM could remove game as CS1.6?
It has the best graphic who we have ever seen between all big games and they turn off..
2012-07-19 02:38:05
Cant tell if trolling or a complete idiot
2012-07-19 18:15:48
btw better put tetris, than CS:GO
2012-07-19 02:38:57
<3 cs 1.6 don't drop it :( who's with me ?
2012-07-19 03:25:54
because valve want this, valve is trying to advertise ,valve failed again he is trying to develop a version of counter strike better than 1.6 but...

Post edited 2012-07-19 13:28:10
2012-07-19 13:27:37
The comments on this thread are a complete joke

Half of you are on a massive bandwagon which just denies the fact that CS:GO is a new game which is starting to take over the CS scene. None of you can actually come up with ANY valid reason which can back up your argument.
Face it , times are changing. ESWC and the rest of the big titles are interested in promoting this game as it is seeded to have alot of sponsors pumping money into it, regardless whether that will actually happen or not.
Please , shut up and stop complaining. 1.6 is on its knees and many of you know it.
Whether its 'like a cs game' or not, it IS a counter strike title.
Please , grow up.
2012-07-19 18:14:28
valve looking only for money not for satisfaction of people on steam or in other community ,there are no professional gamers like this version ,they went to play cs:go because they are paid from sponsors

Post edited 2012-07-19 21:21:24
2012-07-19 21:20:15
How do you know that...?
2012-07-19 21:37:36
VALVe is not Activision, luckily. If they wanted just money they would have released the game long ago for 50$, stop bsing
2012-07-21 04:53:07
StarCraft 2
Dota 2
ShootMania Storm
TrackMania Nations
FIFA 13
Tekken Tag Tournament 2

No more Quake, no more CS, where's e-sport going without good FPS games lol...
2012-07-19 22:34:15
fck it damn u valve... valve payed them to drop 1.6 -.-
2012-07-20 02:50:47
no cs, (no css,) no eswc ??
2012-07-20 10:48:14
let's just play fifa lol
2012-07-21 04:22:27
so sad
2012-07-21 10:37:09
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