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Some of you might remember the times where ESEA expanded to Europe. Well that was five years ago, but now ESEA takes another shot at the European scene.
While the European scene has mainly been witnessing what ESEA have been doing with their league on the other side of the pond, ESEA is now moving their platform to Europe, starting with the Nordics and Germany.
ESEA Europe will be focused on whatever version of Counter-Strike you desire to play. Currently ESEA has just blown the horn that they are coming, as they are translating their anti-cheat client, game servers and their website to fit the European market, as well as setting up deals with European datacenters.
In the announcement it's stated that they expect to be operational by the end of August the latest and will be bringing more announcements over the next weeks.
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Delpan Face f0rest GTR + 5th
they can form their own team
Delpan is THE BEST when he has form but plays like shit otherwise
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ESEA LAN featuring America vs Europe in CS 1.6?
Swag vs f0rest?
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edit: actually from reading lpkane's comments on the esea forum post about this, you are 100% wrong. he says the situation is exactly the same, and they won't support csp.
here's his post 152 over there:
#148 i'll break it down very simply for you: i'm not supporting a game that wants to put me out of business
i'm also not supporting a game that gets the community's hopes up, releases something, then waits 8-10 months between revisions and loses any momentum it's gained
we're supporting valve games and letting people pick what they want to play, beyond that i have no desire to touch csp
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CSP isnt a valve production. they are just a bunch of people trying to give 1.6 a better look cause they care. and valve simply dont give a shit about CS. they never have in the past and by the looks of it, they wont in future either. all they care about is Dota 2 right now as it battles LoL for the most watched/played game online!
I'm almost done with college in the States and will probably be going back to Europe in a semester so having the ESEA client as a stable component will be fun :D
My brother who studies in Scotland will finally get to use ESEA as well
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As for LANS they don't host any except the playoff finals. However I'm pretty sure with enough subscribers from the US, south america and europe combined they'll eventually do some lans.
i dont think they have much left over money from those events they held.. with that prize money and so little spectators / thinking how big the tournement actually is its just not enough. we ALL have to register and play! but that cant happen before it gets to europe. i have been paying for esea since may now. and i kill not very many :D
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Here in the USA ESEA is really all we have for competitive CS.
There are enough free alternatives here.
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The online league is a full season that's incredibly interactive. Spans across multiple skill level divisions and is flows nicely. Two matches a week over an 8 week regular season and THEN playoffs. There's about 4 seasons a year so it never takes too long of a break. And when it does ESEA hosts full tourneys in the off season, as well as mini tourneys for fun (with prizes) during the regular season.
And there's a prize for basically everything if you play hard enough. Pugs reward gaming gear, computer parts etc.
And no offense, the ESL website is a mess. ESEA is very clean cut and easy to navigate. And it's not JUST the PUGS (gathers) and league play. You can scrim all the time as well with your team and what not.
And then there's the full stat system that calculates a ton of things (albeit sometimes it messes up on clutch rounds, that's nothing anyone cares too much for). Including damage per round, frags per round, multi kill counts, assists, bomb plants, defuses, headshot percentage, clutches, etc.
I mean if you have specific questions I suppose that would be easier to answer. I'm going a bit here and there.
A good thing about ESEA is they are pretty involved with the community. They are always holding polls and for the most part stick to the results of the polls.
Another good thing about ESEA is while it might be a drag to pay each month for a subscription, that money benefits the community. Tourneys are dropping out because they don't have sponsors to front the money. Less people spectate matches which means sponsors don't want to put in money and advertisements. Since you pay a fee, that money goes towards league winnings and also possible tourneys. I could be wrong, but I really believe if they get enough subscribers and attention in Europe as they do in the US they will hold annual events with good prize pools.
Remember lpkane and torbull have extensive backgrounds and roots in 1.6. They are in the business to make money, but they enjoy 1.6 just as much as the next person. I am hoping for the best.
first 8 teams of ESEA NA current season
first 8 teams of ESEA EU current season
Edit: Anyways, go Ipkane!
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I wonder if it's still the same now though. I think it would be best if they work together.
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anyone from any country can join german and swedish servers, it wont be like german and sweden only
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The only I see CS:P picking up the pace is if the devs poured some money into the scene (a welcome tournament with a nice prize system).
I believe ESEA will pick up 1.6 and GO and go from there. It's smart to carry 1.6 to its death bed and see its last breath, and somehow, make the transition to GO. But, many changes need to happen so that GO can a become a worthy successor to the enthusiastic 1.6 fans!
P.S.: The night is darkest just before the dawn ;)
pd: yes, my english is terrible :D but i'm trying!
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besides, there isn't really anything like esea in europe. playzone etc are limited to sweden and gather-network is pretty bad.
I'd say, take this opportunity. Massively start playing and promoting ESEA. I'm in no way affiliated with ESEA, I'm retired and living in China but I know this is probably the best chance to keep CS alive.
a word of advice to esea. use the same approach as you did 5 years ago. start giving out vip to pro players again and give them some incentives to play on esea, the current play4money cups etc are quite unprofessional. esea can do this much better. besides, all the players both pro and amateurs are scattered all over europe. it's important to re-unite them so servers are crowded. I'd say have some french servers to appeal to portugal/spain/france (still a huge market) and some german servers to appeal to all other parts of europe. then possibly a few swedish servers to appeal to the scandinavian and russian scene.
my old account is still present: http://play.esea.net/users/242364
#esportsea was the channel named, and I was one of the players to be invited to an introduction of what ESEA is.
During that 2008 Torbull went around in Europe and asking topgamers to register and get premium access.
I wonder if he'll do that again :D
Despite my love for 1.6 but I still doubt it would get any better than this in the future while CSP got a better chance to continue the legacy of CS in long-term.
It would fun to see and keep 1.6 alive for a moment, but we must realize that the "dying state" of 1.6 is inevitable and CSP have a better future than 1.6.
So please whatever your choice, choose wisely.
1.6 FOR EVER GUYS
Great news realy ;)
In europe the CS 1.6 focus is now in east. Poland, Russia, Balkans, Ukraine...
in essence CSP wants to compete with ESEA, which is why lpkane doesnt want to support them
get your facts straight
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and we can play fairly and with out cronyism (ESL full of corruption and retarded admins in Spain)
at least we will can choose between ESL and ESEA... Right now we only can play at esl or mixes/praccs from IRC, and with the cronyism in the esl and the "magic" retrys and pc crash of the people at IRC is almost impossible to play a fair and fun game...
with esea D:
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