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HeatoN: "CS:GO feels right"
Emil "HeatoN" Christensen has blogged on fragbite.se, saying Counter-Strike: Global Offensive "feels like the right thing."
The retired, former professional player Emil "HeatoN" Christensen has blogged about the revival of Ninjas in Pyjamas following today's news about the organization's resurgence and the recruiting of a Counter-Strike: Global Offensive team.
Christensen writes that Counter-Strike: Global Offensive feels like the right thing now when tournament organizers have started weeding out Counter-Strike 1.6 and the player base diminishing.
The multiple CPL medalist continues to praise CS:GO, adding that the game, which will be released later this month, looks good and is starting to improve, encouraging people to give it a shot.
Speaking on the newly recruited team, Christensen explains how he was thrilled by the chemistry between the players when they had a barbeque get together at Christopher "GeT_RiGhT" Alesund's place.
"Their chemistry coupled with the enormous talent and motivation in them makes me confident that they'll be one of the absolute best Counter-Strike: Global Offensive teams," Christensen noted.
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Tags: HeatoN
lol2
2012-08-10 17:28:54
he gets paid for saying this
2012-08-11 00:56:08
+1
and he can't play with today profesional players so he see chance in csgo... shits... he was legend till now...
and he can't play with today profesional players so he see chance in csgo... shits... he was legend till now...
2012-08-11 15:57:34
+1 obviously yes
2012-08-14 12:54:52
'_'
2012-08-10 17:29:17
How did they pay you to say that huh?
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2012-08-10 17:29:56
+1
2012-08-10 17:30:30
via credit card I think -_-
2012-08-10 17:43:53
i think he wanted to say "how much"
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2012-08-10 17:45:46
i know =)
2012-08-10 17:46:13
stop laying. you didnt know when you commented "via credit card I think -_-"
2012-08-11 00:25:20
+11111111
2012-08-10 17:44:50
Why would he revive an organisation with a game that sucks and has no chance? No need to lie here
2012-08-10 17:47:38
for money? and dont tell me " you are wrong"... why would forest, getright and xizt play with 2 mid skilled players? if it would be all about their future@cs scene, they would revive NiP with an allstar lineup and not with lineup like this... imo
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2012-08-10 18:18:51
Yeah and you are the best of the best in source i see! bitch please! gtfo
2012-08-10 18:38:41
dont cry and lets play CS:leGO... launch game, choose nuke, and go to upper to the "level TUBE" like in SuperMario, probably it will move you to de_inferno
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2012-08-10 19:03:18
HAHAHHAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA I LOLED AT THIS :DDDDD
2012-08-10 19:47:51
Idiot, GuardiaN is a beast in 1.6 too.
2012-08-10 20:59:09
Against what top teams?
2012-08-10 22:03:18
Because 1.6 and source are effectively dead? CS:go may not have as great gameplay as 1.6 (and even source tbh) but it has way more potential to be a popular game that event organizers will want to use.
2012-08-10 21:34:40
Maybe.. so what? It's a whole other game, and has nothing to do with the community.
The 1.6 community is not like anything else.
For instance CoD, Battlefield and RTS gamers who change between games as it's a blondie downtown.
The most similar community would be the Quake community.
If everything fails why CS:GO? There are (atm) much much better games out there to play competitive, so why choose a game just because it also has Counter-Strike in it's name?
And ofc it's still too soon to say, but if it keeps being the CS:S style maps, the same terrible recoil and "dynamic" movement, this is going to be a huge disaster for sure.
As always, this community is not about graphics or modern gameplay. This community is about skill, flow, simplistic yet extremely sophisticated gameplay and everything in between.
The 1.6 community is not like anything else.
For instance CoD, Battlefield and RTS gamers who change between games as it's a blondie downtown.
The most similar community would be the Quake community.
If everything fails why CS:GO? There are (atm) much much better games out there to play competitive, so why choose a game just because it also has Counter-Strike in it's name?
And ofc it's still too soon to say, but if it keeps being the CS:S style maps, the same terrible recoil and "dynamic" movement, this is going to be a huge disaster for sure.
As always, this community is not about graphics or modern gameplay. This community is about skill, flow, simplistic yet extremely sophisticated gameplay and everything in between.
2012-08-13 12:52:22
It has everything to do with the community. CS, whether that be 1.6/css/csgo, are team-based competitive first-person-shooters. If the community still wants to compete in a game like that, which many do, where else do they go?
2012-08-13 22:50:30
You're ignoring my other valid points
And you're saying CS is the only FPS title in existence?
And you're saying CS is the only FPS title in existence?
2012-08-14 05:15:54
+1. I tried to say something like this in a lot of retarded threads i have made over time i just cant say it like you do! :P
2012-08-14 13:00:02
yes .. valve pay!
2012-08-10 18:28:23
Aa far as I've seen Heaton has had faith in this game from the start. I hope to see good stuff from cs:go. :]
2012-08-10 18:51:11
HeatoN is were the money is, no doubt about it. I just hope the CS:GO devs get some kind of divine inspiration and turn Casual-Strike:GO into a great competitive FPS.
Sadly theres a looooonnnnggg way for that to happen.
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Sadly theres a looooonnnnggg way for that to happen.
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2012-08-10 17:30:04
Casual Strike!
LOL
so nice nick!
LOL
so nice nick!
2012-08-10 17:34:33
To be honest, why wouldn't he be where the money is?
1.6 fanboys live in a fantasy world where travelling and tournaments cost nothing and the scene can support an infinite number of proffessional teams.
1.6 fanboys live in a fantasy world where travelling and tournaments cost nothing and the scene can support an infinite number of proffessional teams.
2012-08-10 17:44:31
A fantasy world that lasted 13 years FYI.
2012-08-10 17:46:05
12*
2012-08-10 17:49:59
13 years and no more, that's why teams are switching.
I'm glad we agree on that
I'm glad we agree on that
2012-08-10 19:12:15
Okay? Except that he's creating the CGS effect, as well as Valve. HeatoN is not thinking long-term value here, he's thinking quick money.. CS:GO game play is absolutely awful, it sure looks pretty, but the game play is terrible. If it suffers similar fate as CS:S, then there will not be a long-term gain of revenue from this.
The people who live in the 'fantasy' world, are people who think that jumping ship to a new game will allow these players to live that "Pro Gamer" lifestyle. Valve has already shown they have no interest in the players with what they want, so people shouldn't just be 'moving on to what's next' they should be stopping playing Valve games all together.
"If you can't beat them, join them" is an absolutely foolish logic to have with CS:GO and gaming in general. Above all, these games need to be made for the gamers, not for the sponsors and for the money in the pocket of the companies. Of course the pro players will move on to CS:GO, similar to how players moved on to CGS. But what does it do long-term? It hurts both games.
If CS:GO isn't wildly successful, it will cause damage to CS1.6 as well as CS:GO, as well as CS:S - not just one game. Does Valve care about that? Hell no. This will be similar to Diablo 3's release - Blizzard already has so much money coming from SC2/WoW that they don't care how much garbage a game they produce is, they care about $$$$$. They're getting their money with D3 regardless of poor quality - and Valve will be doing the same with CS:GO.
The only people to blame will be the players who just suck it up and take it, rather than recognize that it's foolish to keep on with a company who has vested interests. A company who cares not about quality of play, but simply how much money they will rake in.
If you want to make money in the short-term, switching to CS:GO is the smartest decision over 1.6 - but this is just going to create another divide in an already chaotic system for Counter-Strike.
Just a brief 2 cents, there's so much more I can say but it's pointless. CS 1.6 tournaments aren't exciting anymore because these guys just don't have the passion they used to. When you're playing for small amounts of money, these guys just aren't going at it as hard as they used to. And even if the biggest names ever in CS1.6 move on to CS:GO, the game play is still lackluster at the very best.
The people who live in the 'fantasy' world, are people who think that jumping ship to a new game will allow these players to live that "Pro Gamer" lifestyle. Valve has already shown they have no interest in the players with what they want, so people shouldn't just be 'moving on to what's next' they should be stopping playing Valve games all together.
"If you can't beat them, join them" is an absolutely foolish logic to have with CS:GO and gaming in general. Above all, these games need to be made for the gamers, not for the sponsors and for the money in the pocket of the companies. Of course the pro players will move on to CS:GO, similar to how players moved on to CGS. But what does it do long-term? It hurts both games.
If CS:GO isn't wildly successful, it will cause damage to CS1.6 as well as CS:GO, as well as CS:S - not just one game. Does Valve care about that? Hell no. This will be similar to Diablo 3's release - Blizzard already has so much money coming from SC2/WoW that they don't care how much garbage a game they produce is, they care about $$$$$. They're getting their money with D3 regardless of poor quality - and Valve will be doing the same with CS:GO.
The only people to blame will be the players who just suck it up and take it, rather than recognize that it's foolish to keep on with a company who has vested interests. A company who cares not about quality of play, but simply how much money they will rake in.
If you want to make money in the short-term, switching to CS:GO is the smartest decision over 1.6 - but this is just going to create another divide in an already chaotic system for Counter-Strike.
Just a brief 2 cents, there's so much more I can say but it's pointless. CS 1.6 tournaments aren't exciting anymore because these guys just don't have the passion they used to. When you're playing for small amounts of money, these guys just aren't going at it as hard as they used to. And even if the biggest names ever in CS1.6 move on to CS:GO, the game play is still lackluster at the very best.
2012-08-11 07:28:06
so true, but dont be too pessimistic.
csp are doing it in the right direction. and the right direction is always hard to follow. it needs time.
csp are doing it in the right direction. and the right direction is always hard to follow. it needs time.
2012-08-11 08:55:33
I'm actually incredibly optimistic about the future of e-sports and FPS as well. I agree completely with the sentiment that "Out with the old, in the with the new" needs to take place with 1.6, but embracing a "new" that is a game in a state like CS:GO is worse than just holding on to CS1.6.
2012-08-11 09:22:54
Oh please, you go on a rant on how valve is shit and GO will follow the same path as Source yet you post no own solution to the problem.
Have you even tried CS:GO since the major update came out a few hours ago? I personally think it's really good, not only that but I think it's fun to play.
You (and the majority of the hltv.org community) seem to think that the only way a new cs can be considered a success is if it's an exact replica of 1.6 but with updated graphics. If they make even the slightest deviation from 1.6 then it's a worthless game and it will fail horribly.
Valve isn't making CS:GO for the sole purpose of pleasing the 1.6 community. If valve decides to put something into CS:GO that is different from 1.6 this doesn't mean that they're a money hungry corporation that doesn't give a fuck about what the players think of the game.
Do you see what I'm saying? 1.6 is not the standard around which every new Counter Strike game should be created.
Have you even tried CS:GO since the major update came out a few hours ago? I personally think it's really good, not only that but I think it's fun to play.
You (and the majority of the hltv.org community) seem to think that the only way a new cs can be considered a success is if it's an exact replica of 1.6 but with updated graphics. If they make even the slightest deviation from 1.6 then it's a worthless game and it will fail horribly.
Valve isn't making CS:GO for the sole purpose of pleasing the 1.6 community. If valve decides to put something into CS:GO that is different from 1.6 this doesn't mean that they're a money hungry corporation that doesn't give a fuck about what the players think of the game.
Do you see what I'm saying? 1.6 is not the standard around which every new Counter Strike game should be created.
2012-08-11 14:05:25
They haven't made a slight deviation, and CS 1.6 is probably the hardest CS ever created, probably the most difficult overall too, by the way, they made a huge deviation, walk up from ct base, can't see see poeple on cat, get headshot by a guy who you only see the tip of his head of, sounds like a small deviation? no.
Also, the 'cs 1.6 standard' is not still there to an extent but if you want something easier maybe you should quit CS 1.6 or CS alltogether and start playing cod on the xbox like every other kid.
ty
Also, the 'cs 1.6 standard' is not still there to an extent but if you want something easier maybe you should quit CS 1.6 or CS alltogether and start playing cod on the xbox like every other kid.
ty
2012-08-11 15:28:04
I don't know why I have to keep telling people this because it's so obvious, Valve isn't creating GO only for the 1.6 community.
They have to also take input from Source players, and even players who are new to Counter Strike.
Allthough I don't like all of the changes to the maps I do like the fact that they changed them. The map pool in 1.6 has seen very little change over the years. When they decided to add maps like tuscan, mirage and forge to the pool many pros welcomed the change (allthough the hltv.org community hated it as it does with any changes to anything).
Changing the maps lets people come up with new exciting strats, because let's face it, coming up with something completely new and game breaking on dust2 in 1.6 isn't gonna happen.
And no, I don't want something easier. In fact I like to think I'm pretty good at 1.6, most of my current gaming gear has been won through 1.6.
I think CS:GO is fun and I look forward to winning my next set of gear in that game :)
PS your profile says you're 15, so who's the kid now?
They have to also take input from Source players, and even players who are new to Counter Strike.
Allthough I don't like all of the changes to the maps I do like the fact that they changed them. The map pool in 1.6 has seen very little change over the years. When they decided to add maps like tuscan, mirage and forge to the pool many pros welcomed the change (allthough the hltv.org community hated it as it does with any changes to anything).
Changing the maps lets people come up with new exciting strats, because let's face it, coming up with something completely new and game breaking on dust2 in 1.6 isn't gonna happen.
And no, I don't want something easier. In fact I like to think I'm pretty good at 1.6, most of my current gaming gear has been won through 1.6.
I think CS:GO is fun and I look forward to winning my next set of gear in that game :)
PS your profile says you're 15, so who's the kid now?
2012-08-11 17:05:05
You are correct in the assertion that I don't post a solution to the problem. The reason I don't, is because there have been countless articles and write-ups of great suggestions/improvements to the game, that my echoing them in a random post about HeatoN reforming NiP would be as close to useless as possible.
I see what you're saying, but you're also putting words in my mouth. So it's very difficult for me to even consider creating a reply for you.
Valve is a money hungry corporation? Do you need proof as to why? They're a corporation, there, your proof.
"Do you see what I'm saying? 1.6 is not the standard around which every new Counter Strike game should be created."
Well, it kind of is. Seeing as CZ, Source, and now CS:GO have been created around 'improving' CS1.6, not starting over and making a whole new game type.
I have played CS:GO since the update, and no, I do not find it very fun. And outside of graphically, I don't find the game 'really good' but luckily that is entirely up to an opinion.
I'm the type of person to hang on to something for the sake of nostalgia, 1.6 has seen it's last breath. But at the same time, that doesn't mean just because "Out with the old, in with the new" needs to be applied, that the "new" should just be played regardless of the quality.
CS:GO in it's current state, in my opinion, is not fun, it's not enjoyable to watch, and the game play could use a lot of work. It has a ton of potential, but so did the other 'expansions' of Counter-Strike.
I am in no way saying that a game has to be a clone of 1.6 with better graphics in order to be a success. I am only saying that this current version of CS:GO we have is not going to cut it. People using tired apples and oranges arguments are silly, of course pro players are going to switch to it - the money will now be in CS:GO. That doesn't make it a better game. And people comparing it to LoL or SC2 - is even more illogical. CS even back in it's prime was never able to be a spectator e-sport like Starcraft is, because SC is (mostly) played 1v1, so it's incredibly fun for spectators because you can watch everything that's happening.
I don't care if there is a new version of CS, I'm not some nostalgic baby who's afraid of change. I only care that the new version being given to us is lackluster and that it seemed to create an even bigger divide in an already dying community.
I would delve further into this discussion with you, but almost your entire post is making assumptions about me, or putting words in my mouth, so I don't see the point in a much lengthier post, as you will likely skim over it and just tell me what you think I meant.
I hope you can understand what I meant.
Post edited 2012-08-11 22:16:02
I see what you're saying, but you're also putting words in my mouth. So it's very difficult for me to even consider creating a reply for you.
Valve is a money hungry corporation? Do you need proof as to why? They're a corporation, there, your proof.
"Do you see what I'm saying? 1.6 is not the standard around which every new Counter Strike game should be created."
Well, it kind of is. Seeing as CZ, Source, and now CS:GO have been created around 'improving' CS1.6, not starting over and making a whole new game type.
I have played CS:GO since the update, and no, I do not find it very fun. And outside of graphically, I don't find the game 'really good' but luckily that is entirely up to an opinion.
I'm the type of person to hang on to something for the sake of nostalgia, 1.6 has seen it's last breath. But at the same time, that doesn't mean just because "Out with the old, in with the new" needs to be applied, that the "new" should just be played regardless of the quality.
CS:GO in it's current state, in my opinion, is not fun, it's not enjoyable to watch, and the game play could use a lot of work. It has a ton of potential, but so did the other 'expansions' of Counter-Strike.
I am in no way saying that a game has to be a clone of 1.6 with better graphics in order to be a success. I am only saying that this current version of CS:GO we have is not going to cut it. People using tired apples and oranges arguments are silly, of course pro players are going to switch to it - the money will now be in CS:GO. That doesn't make it a better game. And people comparing it to LoL or SC2 - is even more illogical. CS even back in it's prime was never able to be a spectator e-sport like Starcraft is, because SC is (mostly) played 1v1, so it's incredibly fun for spectators because you can watch everything that's happening.
I don't care if there is a new version of CS, I'm not some nostalgic baby who's afraid of change. I only care that the new version being given to us is lackluster and that it seemed to create an even bigger divide in an already dying community.
I would delve further into this discussion with you, but almost your entire post is making assumptions about me, or putting words in my mouth, so I don't see the point in a much lengthier post, as you will likely skim over it and just tell me what you think I meant.
I hope you can understand what I meant.
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2012-08-11 22:10:18
Casual-Strike LOL
2012-08-10 18:15:22
One thing, CS 1.6 or retired, no more to say..
2012-08-10 17:30:55
The CSP devs are not clueless about the CS competitive scene, so there's still some hope left for a great replacement for 1.6.
2012-08-10 17:36:20
CSP won't replace 1.6 though since it's retarded to switch to CSP if you want to play 1.6. The community won't get bigger then. Cs 1.6 and CSP would get smaller then.
2012-08-10 17:38:47
+1
2012-08-10 17:36:52
I wonder how much he had been paid to say this.
2012-08-10 17:31:22
He is already a millionaire =D
2012-08-10 17:35:08
Suck sick mentality you guys have got! If one likes CS:GO, you think Valve's paid them to say so. Valve just makes games like every other company. They just do it with an aim to improve the predecessor to the sequel. So Valve's doesn't have anything to do with it.
I'm not a CS:GO fan myself but I'm just opposing the way you guys going about 'he's been paid to promote CS:GO'.
I'm not a CS:GO fan myself but I'm just opposing the way you guys going about 'he's been paid to promote CS:GO'.
2012-08-10 17:44:26
their work doesnt end after the game is completely made they even want the game to sell
and paying players/events to promote their game is just some cheap marketing
and paying players/events to promote their game is just some cheap marketing
2012-08-10 17:49:49
They don't need to pay players or event organisers to promote their product. That isn't the way it goes. People say Source wasn't as good as CS1.6 but it still sold over 25 million copies.
There have been games that were a hit and a flop but no company ever pays players to promote their game because they know eventually there will new upcoming professionals in the game. CS:GO will create its own competitive scene and bring up new players. People will eventually switch to CS:GO sooner or later.
There have been games that were a hit and a flop but no company ever pays players to promote their game because they know eventually there will new upcoming professionals in the game. CS:GO will create its own competitive scene and bring up new players. People will eventually switch to CS:GO sooner or later.
2012-08-10 18:13:29
Yes it sold over 25 million copies and one of the reason behind it was many pros those days shifted to source.see the no. of people they play now
No company ever paid to any players/events to promote their games doesnt mean they will never do and it isnt a hard task for a company like valve.
you probably dont know what marketing is.
once people see their fav players playing cs:go they will buy it and it will be more $ for valve.
people will switch to go but will leave this shit sooner or later just as they did to source
No company ever paid to any players/events to promote their games doesnt mean they will never do and it isnt a hard task for a company like valve.
you probably dont know what marketing is.
once people see their fav players playing cs:go they will buy it and it will be more $ for valve.
people will switch to go but will leave this shit sooner or later just as they did to source
2012-08-10 19:11:10
Keep your "marketing" fuck logic to yourself and I keep mine. My advice to you is- stop speculating and giving out your shit logic of "No company ever paid to any players/events to promote their games doesnt mean they will never do and it isnt a hard task for a company like valve."
So you mean, Valve (Valve's representative) went to HeatoN, had a meeting in his house, had lunch together, the agent pulls out a bag of moolah and asks him to promote CS:GO?! Bwahahahaha! LMFAO!
So you mean, Valve (Valve's representative) went to HeatoN, had a meeting in his house, had lunch together, the agent pulls out a bag of moolah and asks him to promote CS:GO?! Bwahahahaha! LMFAO!
2012-08-11 15:14:30
my only advice to you is come to reality and buy yourself a brain if u can
and ffs come out of your fantasy world
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and ffs come out of your fantasy world
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2012-08-11 18:34:01
1.6 fanboys will never swtich. Them brain is unable to learn new game. It's pretty funny, anything they suck at, is shit. 1.6ers mentality, not all of them obviously they are excpetions, but majority have that way of thinking.
2012-08-10 19:11:32
wait, so if we trashtalk about a game that will replace cs 1.6 as a main title, but it is nothing more than some COD graphics and some others bullshits, we are mad fanboys ? we, 1.6 lovers, just want a game that CAN REALLY replace 1.6, not a game that seems more like super mario with guns
I think that the best way to replace 1.6 is to do a game that is better, because no1 wants to switch to a worst thing, even in life (if you what it is)
The point is, that we, 1.6 lovers, are giving our opinions and yes, we can probably leave in a fantasy world, but no, we live in the same world as you, and we just want a game that could seem more like 1.6, not a game that is made for kiddos that only look for fancy doors and weapond that seems like swabs.
I think that the best way to replace 1.6 is to do a game that is better, because no1 wants to switch to a worst thing, even in life (if you what it is)
The point is, that we, 1.6 lovers, are giving our opinions and yes, we can probably leave in a fantasy world, but no, we live in the same world as you, and we just want a game that could seem more like 1.6, not a game that is made for kiddos that only look for fancy doors and weapond that seems like swabs.
2012-08-10 23:10:57
yea， u r so intelligent to be able learn such a supreme and high skillwise game thats called csgo
2012-08-11 09:09:03
I don't think Valve paid HeatoN to say anything about CS:GO (especially if you actually read his entire comment) but it's pretty ignorant to assume that there is no reason they wouldn't.
If a community full of people expected it to fail, what better way to help out the reputation than have one of the biggest names in that game say something nice about it?
Just playing devil's advocate, as I think HeatoN is more than correct in his opinion.
If a community full of people expected it to fail, what better way to help out the reputation than have one of the biggest names in that game say something nice about it?
Just playing devil's advocate, as I think HeatoN is more than correct in his opinion.
2012-08-11 09:29:23
That's exactly what I'm trying to say, but some dumb-fucks just wouldn't listen.
For all bitches who think Valve paid event organisers to promote CS:GO, you're seriously mistaken. The inclusion of game titles happens this way as it is in the following article- http://www.hltv.org/news/8723-carmac-no-csgo-as-ma..
For all bitches who think Valve paid event organisers to promote CS:GO, you're seriously mistaken. The inclusion of game titles happens this way as it is in the following article- http://www.hltv.org/news/8723-carmac-no-csgo-as-ma..
2012-08-11 11:58:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTmXHvGZiSY
2012-08-10 18:01:28
sell out
2012-08-10 17:32:38
How can you call perhaps one of the greatest and most influential players in Counter-Strikes history a sell out? HeatoN has worked (and played) in both 1.6 and Source but now the money and competition will be in CS:GO and not a 13 year old game with out dated graphics, CS:GO is easier to market to tournaments and potential sponsors.
2012-08-10 19:55:23
that's right he is concearned with money and marketing and therefore is a sellout.
2012-08-10 20:29:05
So anyone who doesnt play 1.6 is a sell out? aha ok...
2012-08-10 20:31:34
That does not make sense, CS1.6 is no longer marketable to leagues/sponsors/teams which is why the community (or the smarter part of it) are doing the next logical thing in migrating to a new game that will hopefully breathe new life into CS and the FPS genre as an e-sport because right now it's ALL LoL and StarCraft 2 and we (the FPS community) need something to go alongside LoL and SC2.
2012-08-10 23:19:50
leagues/sponsors are making the community (or the stupid part of it) switch to a game that brings them more profit.
and they achieve that also by promoting the game through famous people - in this case heaton.
and thats why heaton is a sellout because he speaks in the name of company interests.
and they achieve that also by promoting the game through famous people - in this case heaton.
and thats why heaton is a sellout because he speaks in the name of company interests.
2012-08-10 23:29:04
Lol the stupidity amazes me ;)
2012-08-11 00:15:03
tell me about it.
2012-08-11 00:17:30
Your stupidity amazes me too!
So tell me then. Why just HeatoN? Why not other legends like SpawN, dsn, walle, fr0d, cArn and many others?
Moreover the company's interest lies in providing gamers with new games regularly. So if you're suggesting Valve shuts itself down instead of releasing a "sequel" to this epic series you're being plain dumb!
So tell me then. Why just HeatoN? Why not other legends like SpawN, dsn, walle, fr0d, cArn and many others?
Moreover the company's interest lies in providing gamers with new games regularly. So if you're suggesting Valve shuts itself down instead of releasing a "sequel" to this epic series you're being plain dumb!
2012-08-11 15:36:39
company interest lies in MAKING MONEY. and money they make with making the game noob-friendly and widely acceptable.
the only thing csgo has in common with other cs series is the name.
the only thing csgo has in common with other cs series is the name.
2012-08-11 16:22:57
Of course, it does. They have to make money to be able to pay off their employees. I'm not here to argue about the game but about the people who are bitching about Valve's paid HeatoN to promote CS:GO!
2012-08-11 16:33:04
"company interests." What company? I don't see any company paying Heaton to say this stuff, It looks like he really believes that CS:GO has a solid chance at becoming a good FPS title within e-sports and this is shown further with his revival of NiP and in case you see something I don't there are no sponsors backing NiP yet so what (financially) would he gave to gain from endorsing CS:GO?
2012-08-11 11:28:42
CSP has a bigger chance if poeple would root for it more.
i'm just sayin.
i'm just sayin.
2012-08-11 15:30:55
Yes, it does but only if it gets a big community and a fanbase. It has a good chance.
2012-08-11 15:38:31
I don't agree with that as CSP are limited to what they can do with the engine whereas Hidden Path can pretty much do what they like, Also Valve are more likely to push CS:GO than CSP as an e-sports title, I mean we have already seen them put up 2 million dollars for dota2.
2012-08-11 17:09:42
why do all of you bullshit about cs:go if u haven't even tried it yet?.. Just because lurppis thinks that csp is better all of u shouldn't. He says he also works with them and he also probably got paid to say that csp is better then cs:go.. Don't follow anyone elses opinion, have one of ur own.
2012-08-10 17:34:21
true, but it's dieing more and more untill complete extinction.All the pros are gone and so does a little part of the community go with them. And for me personally and some others enjoy watching someone playing it rather then themselves playing it, but how can we do it without any pros to watch, those big names like gtr,f0rest,xizt are gone and so shall other pros continue. Now that there are less tournaments, the bigger companies like SK and fnatic will shut down their divisions because why should they just pay the players untill they can't repay them with winnning tournaments?
edit: forgot that sk already did release their cs division lol
cs 1.6 had it's time. 12 years are simply enough, it's time for something new and fresh
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edit: forgot that sk already did release their cs division lol
cs 1.6 had it's time. 12 years are simply enough, it's time for something new and fresh
Post edited 2012-08-10 18:34:02
2012-08-10 18:29:12
I have tried GO but CSP is really way better 'cause the gameplay
2012-08-10 17:37:26
ofc the gameplay will be different, it's a new game, you can't expect it to be exactly like cs1.6 and it SHOULD NOT. You can't expect to like a new game just like that.Play it some time, give it a chance and then judge it. But w/e it's all down to personal preference.
Imo csp is only a graphical improvement not more
Imo csp is only a graphical improvement not more
2012-08-10 18:31:32
ok
2012-08-10 18:41:42
actually i have tried it, and i personally think its the worst shit ive ever played, more worse than source was.
2012-08-10 17:44:09
i checked your steam id, no CSGO on your account. That means u bullshiting, thx bye.
2012-08-10 19:13:45
well do i have to have it on my own steamid to try it? i tried it on my friends account, and i didnt like it. Stop bullshitting urself, thx bye self.
2012-08-10 19:38:03
csp developers are not as rich as valve that they would pay players/events to promote their game
2012-08-10 17:45:44
Nobody pays nobody. Just because some hotshot, accomplished, former CS pro player who also works for HLTV.org (lurppis in this case) says that he doesn't like CS:GO does not mean that you shouldn't!
Like 1.6, play 1.6. Like CSP, play CSP. Like CS:GO, play CS:GO. No one's gonna put you in jail for playin' a game of your choice.
Post edited 2012-08-10 17:53:25
Like 1.6, play 1.6. Like CSP, play CSP. Like CS:GO, play CS:GO. No one's gonna put you in jail for playin' a game of your choice.
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2012-08-10 17:49:24
i hope you know what marketing is. lurppis may not like dota/dota2 but i like it,its not like he doesnt like so i should also not like.i have played that game myself and its worst than shit
2012-08-10 17:54:40
You can't compare a RTS game to a FPS game!
If you haven't tried CS:GO, stop hating it 'cause afterwards you try it you'll be playing all day.
P.S. I know what marketing is. Valve developed both CS1.6 and CS:GO. So they possibly wouldn't be shitting on their God-Like creation to promote CS:GO.
If you haven't tried CS:GO, stop hating it 'cause afterwards you try it you'll be playing all day.
P.S. I know what marketing is. Valve developed both CS1.6 and CS:GO. So they possibly wouldn't be shitting on their God-Like creation to promote CS:GO.
2012-08-10 18:19:14
obviously u didnt get my point
it was just an example that he may not like something but i like it and its absolutely my wish to like it or not
could u bother reading my previous reply? i said i have played it and its shit for sure.
i dont think they would have any problems in paying players/events to play their game and ofc when people see their fav players playing they would buy it
it was just an example that he may not like something but i like it and its absolutely my wish to like it or not
could u bother reading my previous reply? i said i have played it and its shit for sure.
i dont think they would have any problems in paying players/events to play their game and ofc when people see their fav players playing they would buy it
2012-08-10 19:04:16
Well, I don't see many people happy with f0rest, Get_RiGhT and Xizt switching to CS:GO.
And don't you get my point?
Valve developed both CS1.6 and CS:GO. So why would they ever want to shit on CS1.6 by bringing out CS:GO?
And about paying to event organisers for including their game title-
They go with the game title with could involve more spectators and the gamers playing that game. Let's say, Valve paid them to include CS:GO, it doesn't attract many spectators and teams to take the event on with, so where does that leave them? The obviously want to include a game which is popular among the masses. They can't afford to incur such a big loss.
And you are being plain dumb when you say Valve pays events players/organisers for game promotion.
Read this article first and then reply.
http://www.hltv.org/news/8723-carmac-no-csgo-as-ma..
And don't you get my point?
Valve developed both CS1.6 and CS:GO. So why would they ever want to shit on CS1.6 by bringing out CS:GO?
And about paying to event organisers for including their game title-
They go with the game title with could involve more spectators and the gamers playing that game. Let's say, Valve paid them to include CS:GO, it doesn't attract many spectators and teams to take the event on with, so where does that leave them? The obviously want to include a game which is popular among the masses. They can't afford to incur such a big loss.
And you are being plain dumb when you say Valve pays events players/organisers for game promotion.
Read this article first and then reply.
http://www.hltv.org/news/8723-carmac-no-csgo-as-ma..
2012-08-11 11:52:25
you still dont seem to understand MARKETING
1.6 is loosing its charm so they want something that could take its place.so they are bringing in cs:go.
imagine almost all the pros of 1.6 switch to cs:go and events start picking it then more that 50% of the people will switch to cs:go and only thing they can do it is buying the game?
they are trying their best to make it popular and i didnt say they are paying,coz i dont have any proof for it. m just saying its not a hard task for them to pay
probably u should read articles on the ways companies use to advertise their product
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1.6 is loosing its charm so they want something that could take its place.so they are bringing in cs:go.
imagine almost all the pros of 1.6 switch to cs:go and events start picking it then more that 50% of the people will switch to cs:go and only thing they can do it is buying the game?
they are trying their best to make it popular and i didnt say they are paying,coz i dont have any proof for it. m just saying its not a hard task for them to pay
probably u should read articles on the ways companies use to advertise their product
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2012-08-11 14:14:03
I think it's you who doesn't understand marketing. If you don't have any proof then stop speculating and STFU!
2012-08-11 14:50:03
'STFU' . Awesome way to end the argument when u dont have anything else to say
2012-08-11 18:31:20
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2012-08-11 18:30:24
I've tried both CS:GO and CSP. Right now, both of them suck ass.
Is that enough of an answer for you?
Is that enough of an answer for you?
2012-08-10 18:14:03
Who cares if you little kiddies wont change you wont make any impact on the game anyways so stick to your public 1.6
2012-08-10 17:34:36
echo that
2012-08-10 18:05:54
heaton you lost my respect! you are not a legend anymore! please never tell someone you have been a CS1.6 player!
what a shame!
what a shame!
2012-08-10 17:34:47
If so many of you consider HeatoN a sell-out, you should feel the same about f0rest, GeT_RiGhT and Xizt and clearly you don't. Smells like hipocrisy to me.
2012-08-10 17:35:02
f0rest = a Sell-out
GTR = a Sell-out
Xizt = the biggest Sell-out in history
GTR = a Sell-out
Xizt = the biggest Sell-out in history
2012-08-10 17:37:13
LOL
2012-08-10 17:38:07
Sadly you didn't come up with this before I pointed it out ;-).
2012-08-10 17:38:42
I guess 90% of the people hating on CS:GO haven't even tried it
2012-08-10 17:36:03
I've tried it and it sucks.
2012-08-10 17:37:40
i checked your steam id as well, no CSGO on your account, u bullshiting as well.
2012-08-10 19:17:05
?!?!
My steam account ???
I've tried it on my cousin's steam and btw how the hell did you know my account ?
My steam account ???
I've tried it on my cousin's steam and btw how the hell did you know my account ?
2012-08-10 19:20:27
Hahah, same excuse again, its quite funny, that every single little 1.6er like you, say game is shit when you check accounts there is no CSGO on it, yet u say its shit. guys u r pathetic. And when you point that out, each one of you say, ah i played at friends, i played at cousing. Sad.. I doxed your nick and e-mail address, thats how i got into your steam_id.
2012-08-10 20:22:52
FYI the beta keys are not that rare, most of the players I know already have been invited, so if most of the peruvian top players got CS:GO beta it's not that wrong to assume those keys are everywhere by now, right?
2012-08-10 17:37:47
Are you sure about 90%?
Is there any survey you did to prove this point?
Is there any survey you did to prove this point?
2012-08-10 17:39:17
He doesn't know, and I believe thats why he used the term "I guess".
2012-08-10 17:54:41
Guessing 90% HLTV community don't play CS:GO
Imo, this guy is fucking retarded because he has no idea about the number of registered members.
Imo, this guy is fucking retarded because he has no idea about the number of registered members.
2012-08-10 17:58:17
This also coming from someone who pulled numbers out of their asses that over 300k people play CS1.6, please don't be so hypocritical!
2012-08-11 00:19:41
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Strike
Quoting-
As of August 2011, the Counter-Strike franchise has sold over 27 million units
these are just steam stats, add asian,brazil,argentina etc non steam users.
Oh cadred, still mad about hltv taking over cs:go scene?
Quoting-
As of August 2011, the Counter-Strike franchise has sold over 27 million units
these are just steam stats, add asian,brazil,argentina etc non steam users.
Oh cadred, still mad about hltv taking over cs:go scene?
2012-08-11 06:46:24
Yes thats the whole CS franchise I said 300k PLAYING the game, again pulling out numbers of your arse.
2012-08-11 11:41:41
Guessing makes you a retard? I guess you're the retard here.
C wat i did there?
C wat i did there?
2012-08-11 06:06:12
Guessing upto an extent is fine but bullshitting to max level is considered as being retarded.
2012-08-11 06:36:51
Max level would be 100%, i guess you're 100% gay
2012-08-11 08:04:50
Anything more or equals to 90 is considered as Max.
Bdw, Nice comeback.
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Bdw, Nice comeback.
Post edited 2012-08-11 08:36:05
2012-08-11 08:30:00
I stated your mistake, now whats your comeback bro?
Wait what? Max is max, 90% is not considered max.
Post edited 2012-08-11 08:39:43
Wait what? Max is max, 90% is not considered max.
Post edited 2012-08-11 08:39:43
2012-08-11 08:38:44
Feeling pity on swedish schools.
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2012-08-11 09:54:31
And you're from India talking about Swedish schools, poor you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxima_and_minima
Now what?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxima_and_minima
Now what?
2012-08-11 10:17:50
Have you ever ride a car/bike?
If yes, have you ever see the speedometer?
The last 10 in it are always considered as Maximum. ( http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ohmOoHK96yM/TTMudVJYP7I/.. )
Please stop embarrassing yourself.
/Ignored
If yes, have you ever see the speedometer?
The last 10 in it are always considered as Maximum. ( http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ohmOoHK96yM/TTMudVJYP7I/.. )
Please stop embarrassing yourself.
/Ignored
2012-08-11 10:50:32
Then it means, 70mph or 70 kmph (whatever it is) is the maximum.. Lol! Typical indian logic.
2012-08-11 15:22:36
Are you really that retarded? Indian school must be so good.
2012-08-11 15:52:51
Prove me wrong instead of posting bullcrap.
Swedish schools doesn't teach how to debate?
Swedish schools doesn't teach how to debate?
2012-08-11 17:13:27
Here ->
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxima_and_minima
You're clearly wrong you stupid idiot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxima_and_minima
You're clearly wrong you stupid idiot.
2012-08-11 17:52:57
Quote the lines which proves me wrong, dickhead.
2012-08-11 18:05:41
In mathematics, the maximum and minimum (plural: maxima and minima) of a function, known collectively as extrema (singular: extremum), are the largest and smallest value that the function takes at a point either within a given neighborhood (local or relative extremum) or on the function domain in its entirety (global or absolute extremum).
2012-08-11 18:08:01
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thu..
See the curve from x-axis to local maxima and global maxima, whatever point lies between them will be considered as Maximum and below x-axis to minimum will considered as minimum point.
Please learn something by yourself before proving others wrong. Dunno why i'm even arguing with a illiterate fuck.
See the curve from x-axis to local maxima and global maxima, whatever point lies between them will be considered as Maximum and below x-axis to minimum will considered as minimum point.
Please learn something by yourself before proving others wrong. Dunno why i'm even arguing with a illiterate fuck.
2012-08-11 18:22:01
i play cs go
game really sucks
promod better but not much
game really sucks
promod better but not much
2012-08-10 17:40:57
i have it i have played it for few hours...jst checking out maps,guns etc it sucks so much that i didnt even bother updating it afterwards
2012-08-10 17:44:11
well, i have, and it sucks.
2012-08-10 18:12:59
I have and it sucks BIG TIME. Hope the upcomming changes will make it so I atleast can see some potential in that game.
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2012-08-10 18:58:29
I have, uninstalled it after few days as it sucks badly, the gameplay is so crappy.
2012-08-11 00:01:47
I've tried it during 4-5 hours and I must confess it sucks balls.
2012-08-11 00:16:19
ALL pro players played 1.6 for the money you dumb fucks (to get to the top you have to spend many hours and if you are not payed you simply CANT do it) now they are going to get paid to play other game. ITS THE SAME. hahaha fucking idiots you are dumber than a stone, damn losers \o/
2012-08-10 17:36:17
you enlightened all of us :P Thanks bro :D
2012-08-10 17:38:30
But there's a difference:
They all started playing CS 1.6 (or a previous version of CS) as unpaid "no-names" and at the beginning (!) they only played it because they enjoyed it. A lot of them switch to CS:GO now because that's where the money goes. These are two different motivations to pick up a game.
Just saying.
They all started playing CS 1.6 (or a previous version of CS) as unpaid "no-names" and at the beginning (!) they only played it because they enjoyed it. A lot of them switch to CS:GO now because that's where the money goes. These are two different motivations to pick up a game.
Just saying.
2012-08-10 19:03:34
Been playing CS 1.6 since 2001 or something, a big fan of it, but yes, I do see a lot of potention on the international level in CS:GO and it will be one of the most known and playeable games in the future once they fix all the bugs, recoils and so on and so forth to make it as close as possible to what we used to have in CS 1.6...I already purchased it myself and I am sure thsoe who are still acting dumb saying this game is another CS:Source cartoon will also change their minds if not now, but a little later and what's more importantly is that they will like the game afterwords...
I doubt there will be something like CS 2.0 created, at least, it's not gonna happen in near future, as some of the players think, so in stead of waiting for something that's not even planned to be produced, just give it a shot in CS:GO...
Who knows... ;))
I doubt there will be something like CS 2.0 created, at least, it's not gonna happen in near future, as some of the players think, so in stead of waiting for something that's not even planned to be produced, just give it a shot in CS:GO...
Who knows... ;))
2012-08-10 17:36:37
But the question is : "Is it better than CS 1.6 ?"
2012-08-10 17:39:18
This is not a good and professional question to ask. You can't really compare the two. To answer your question all I can say it's not better nor worse than CS 1.6...it is simply something new...
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2012-08-10 17:48:10
time will tell...but I really think it'll workout very well in the future...
2012-08-10 17:49:16
Something new and bad at the same time ...
And let me tell you something , only source players will succeed in CS:GO.
And let me tell you something , only source players will succeed in CS:GO.
2012-08-10 17:49:46
If you say that only source players will succeed in CS:GO... then I'm not agree with you.
Why are face, f0rest & Xizt playing CSGO?
There was danish 5on5 CSGO cup few days ago that 5 top/prof. players from CSS vs 5 normal-good players from CS 1.6 and it ended 16-10 to CSS clan..
Why are face, f0rest & Xizt playing CSGO?
There was danish 5on5 CSGO cup few days ago that 5 top/prof. players from CSS vs 5 normal-good players from CS 1.6 and it ended 16-10 to CSS clan..
2012-08-10 20:26:22
CS:GO is the future
2012-08-10 17:36:39
no
2012-08-10 17:37:23
so what is ? cs:promod? that don't have the needed money to promote the game and don't get me speaking on tournaments.. cs is dead, and this is the onlything we got left and valve will surely invest some money onto it so it gets big
2012-08-10 18:05:05
@H@H@H@H@ B U L L S H I T
2012-08-10 17:39:42
paying tournaments to pull down 1.6 and include cs:go is ok
but now paying players to recruit team and play it is too much valve
but now paying players to recruit team and play it is too much valve
2012-08-10 17:40:16
You're a fucking retard, you know that?
2012-08-11 14:57:17
buy a brain?
2012-08-11 18:31:59
Is buy is the only way to play CS:GO or I need just steam, because i can't find to download it.
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2012-08-10 17:41:26
You need to buy the game in order to play it. Either you have a beta key and you can try the game for free (until the full game comes out) or you can pre-order it (buy it but saving a 10% on the original price). See,
http://www.hltv.org/news/8899-csgo-pre-ordering-no..
The full game will be released officially on the 21st but if you pre-order it you will be able to participate meanwhile in the beta from the 14th onward until the full game is released (which by pre-ordering it you already paid for thus no need to pay anything again).
http://www.hltv.org/news/8899-csgo-pre-ordering-no..
The full game will be released officially on the 21st but if you pre-order it you will be able to participate meanwhile in the beta from the 14th onward until the full game is released (which by pre-ordering it you already paid for thus no need to pay anything again).
2012-08-11 00:05:32
thankss
2012-08-11 00:11:28
CS:GO good game :)
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2012-08-10 17:46:42
The amount of pros selling out is just astonishing!
2012-08-10 17:47:58
There's a massive difference between selling out and moving on, This isn't like when the 1.6 pros switched to CSS because of The CGS at the time, This is players who are probably sick of the same game moving on to better and greater things. CS:GO will probably be picked up by ESL & MLG.
2012-08-10 19:56:54
guy who can only crouch and spray talks about games..pff
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2012-08-10 17:49:15
If you think heaton has been paid to say these things then you need to see a doctor.
2012-08-10 17:49:37
i think u need to, it's pretty obvious.
2012-08-10 18:22:04
Its all about the money... we know it, he knows it. Why didnt he make a cs:source team back in the day, it was even closer speaking about gameplay, to cs1.6 then to cs:go:home. Anyway, not to mention about making the right move. Those players want to stay in the pro-scene... its not going to happen with cs1.6, so they had their backs against the wall so to speak.
Its just my opinion...!
Its just my opinion...!
2012-08-10 17:50:13
He did make a source team... He was the manager for the team. It was called CGS if i remember right.
2012-08-10 17:55:34
rofl
2012-08-10 18:21:25
You guys are fun, HeatoN had nothing to do with the competetive scene for the last 5 years and now he's a sellout and a traitor for supporting his own team in a new game?
This is a translation of a part of his blog text:
"1.6 will always be closest to my heart and my favorite game, but when tournament after tournament drop 1.6 and the player base shrinks and shrinks and then comes the "sequel" CS:GO that looks really good it feels like the right thing to do!"
Sounds pretty sensible to me.
This is a translation of a part of his blog text:
"1.6 will always be closest to my heart and my favorite game, but when tournament after tournament drop 1.6 and the player base shrinks and shrinks and then comes the "sequel" CS:GO that looks really good it feels like the right thing to do!"
Sounds pretty sensible to me.
2012-08-10 17:52:51
you are like the 1 out of every 1000 users on here who knows how to use their brain. i congratulate you sir.
2012-08-10 17:56:23
You deserve a medal sir.
2012-08-10 18:27:55
more like a vip status, haha
2012-08-10 18:43:30
heaton is correct. csgo feels very right and is the only chance for cs to still be a competitive game on tournaments nowdays. of course it doesnt feel 100% like cs 1.6 because its a different engine but just look at sc2 and dota 2, they dont feel 100% the same as sc and wc3 dota aswell, because its a different engine. but the community can go along with it and look, those games are now more famous than EVER before :) esport became very big the last 2 years and a new counter strike title is the only chance to not lose the line now. otherwise there will only be arts/rts game left in the future.
get open minded guys, deal with it and play csgo for a few weeks until you get good at the game and see its fun. just like the professionals do, if you get used to it then its a good game. valve is updating it by time and works hard on the game to make it successfull and fit to the community, they are doing a good job.
you guys are yelling like old pensioneers "blabla in the past everything was better blablabla" wow guys its 2012, move on. play csgo or have fun on empty or bot servers in 1.6
we need a new cs now, or cs will be dead forever and overtaken by all the arts/rts titles in esport. let the new era begin
get open minded guys, deal with it and play csgo for a few weeks until you get good at the game and see its fun. just like the professionals do, if you get used to it then its a good game. valve is updating it by time and works hard on the game to make it successfull and fit to the community, they are doing a good job.
you guys are yelling like old pensioneers "blabla in the past everything was better blablabla" wow guys its 2012, move on. play csgo or have fun on empty or bot servers in 1.6
we need a new cs now, or cs will be dead forever and overtaken by all the arts/rts titles in esport. let the new era begin
2012-08-10 17:56:25
+ everyone read what this guy said..
2012-08-10 18:07:16
It's like you're earning money by playing CS. Everybody is playing just for fun. Nobody is playing it for living. Noone can for anybody to play a game that they don't like. CS:S was example.
2012-08-10 18:26:57
then i dont know why everyone is flaming csgo and act like old pensioneers, when they dont care about competitive and play cs for fun, then they should stick with 1.6 ;) for me cs is an esport title, so i want it all. live streams from tournaments with great casters etc. and that is what goes to csgo in the future. imo 1.6 will be the best cs ever created but its time to move on now, otherwise the name "counter strike" will crumble into dust very soon :(
2012-08-10 18:45:28
Starcraft 2 and Dota 2 were built out of community feedback, CS:GO was not.
2012-08-10 18:52:37
as far as i know, valve is always asking pro players for their opinions, letting them play showmatches to criticice things they need to change etc.
thats why csgo has a better movement now as a few months back, also silencer for m4 is coming soon etc. the recoil also got reworked and is very near to 1.6 right now.
maps arent a problem, i bet there will be community made tournament/league maps soon in 1.6 style just with the csgo graphics
thats why csgo has a better movement now as a few months back, also silencer for m4 is coming soon etc. the recoil also got reworked and is very near to 1.6 right now.
maps arent a problem, i bet there will be community made tournament/league maps soon in 1.6 style just with the csgo graphics
2012-08-10 19:45:19
honestly Dota > Dota2 and i played it before it became so popular... sc2 is a good example though, nice graphics and the same feel of sc. Dota 2 has the same item/hero names & better graphics but it got an odd feel to it,at least to me :/ They really fail at transfering the gameplay to the sequels of the original games (dota2/css/csgo).
2012-08-11 00:13:33
you feel like that because two different engines can't produce the same gameplay. That's what happens with CS right now. 1.6 is on GoldSrc engine and GO is on source engine 2 or whatever it is called. Every engine has its own advantages.
2012-08-11 11:24:23
I lol'd @ sc2 has the same feel of sc:bw. Yeah right, it's only 10x harder for no reason (and the pro players say you need to practice sc2 3-4 hours a day, while sc:bw players had contract with organization to practice 8 hours a day every day, at least). Also, SC2 is far more random than sc:bw.
Dota2, on the other hand, is the perfect example of developers listening to the community and making a game with competitivness in mind. It is everything that DotA is except better. All the engine limitations are fixed... Not to mention that creating completely new hero in DotA, from scracth whose model isn't in WC3:TFT (Ancient Apparation) broke the WC3 limit of mapsize, but soon Blizzard rised the cap from 4MB to 8MB per map, but still DotA map is still capped almost at maximum. Even the custom loading screen takes 2MBs which is 25% of maximum mapsize.
In terms of skill DOTA2 and DotA+WarKeys require the same skill. The only difference is that DOTA2 is clearer (which might or might not make it slightly easier, but still it is a good change ofc).
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Dota2, on the other hand, is the perfect example of developers listening to the community and making a game with competitivness in mind. It is everything that DotA is except better. All the engine limitations are fixed... Not to mention that creating completely new hero in DotA, from scracth whose model isn't in WC3:TFT (Ancient Apparation) broke the WC3 limit of mapsize, but soon Blizzard rised the cap from 4MB to 8MB per map, but still DotA map is still capped almost at maximum. Even the custom loading screen takes 2MBs which is 25% of maximum mapsize.
In terms of skill DOTA2 and DotA+WarKeys require the same skill. The only difference is that DOTA2 is clearer (which might or might not make it slightly easier, but still it is a good change ofc).
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2012-08-12 15:33:06
Lol yes it was you absolute fool, what do you think the sound updates are for?
2012-08-11 00:23:38
The sound was completely broken, they knew they had to fix it, regardless of the community's opinion.
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2012-08-11 00:32:27
Lol that was told to them by the community, the AK recoil, the fact that they are going to include the DoTA2 spectate mode, OH WAIT BASED ON COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, oh hang on extra gameplay additions, extra spectate modes like 1v1 split screen mode.
You are a writer on this site are you not? And you are slamming Valve for not listening when 75% of the updates are based primarily on beta testing and feedback given to them, why do you think they have people like Volcano and J3di salaried for them to help develop this feedback. Oh if you don't know who J3di is, he was a person who developed zBlock for Source which single handedly kept Source a competitive title, he also has in depth knowledge of the Source engine.
You carry on rounding up these sheep to say the same thing about how Valve don't listen to the community feedback. Do you not realise its in their best interests to listen?
You are a writer on this site are you not? And you are slamming Valve for not listening when 75% of the updates are based primarily on beta testing and feedback given to them, why do you think they have people like Volcano and J3di salaried for them to help develop this feedback. Oh if you don't know who J3di is, he was a person who developed zBlock for Source which single handedly kept Source a competitive title, he also has in depth knowledge of the Source engine.
You carry on rounding up these sheep to say the same thing about how Valve don't listen to the community feedback. Do you not realise its in their best interests to listen?
2012-08-11 01:02:38
the fact that they are going to include the DoTA2 spectate mode, OH WAIT BASED ON COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, oh hang on extra gameplay additions, extra spectate modes like 1v1 split screen mode.
That was always the plan, if you listen the first interviews months before the beta came out, Chet said that they would port the spectator mode from Dota 2, again, it wasn't something that the community requested in the first place.
Remember the awesome "The science of fog" blog, supposedly explaining the necessity of the crazy amounts of fog? It was nothing more than valve inventing some excuse so they wouldn't have to work on some other way to optimize the maps for the consoles.
I never said that they aren't listening to the feedback, they simply weren't listening until a few months ago. Their plan was to release another mediocre CS, but what they weren't expecting was that the announcement of CS:GO would kill the CS, CS:S scenes.
Their PR talk "We'll release it when the community say it's ready, it might take a 1 month or 2 years" and announcing a release date a couple of months later might have been the final blow to lose the trust with the community.
Now it might be a bit late to release the game the community wants, valve only has one more update, maybe two, before they release the full game, and if by then it's not good enough for the pro gaming scene it will just kill the scene, no doubt.
That was always the plan, if you listen the first interviews months before the beta came out, Chet said that they would port the spectator mode from Dota 2, again, it wasn't something that the community requested in the first place.
Remember the awesome "The science of fog" blog, supposedly explaining the necessity of the crazy amounts of fog? It was nothing more than valve inventing some excuse so they wouldn't have to work on some other way to optimize the maps for the consoles.
I never said that they aren't listening to the feedback, they simply weren't listening until a few months ago. Their plan was to release another mediocre CS, but what they weren't expecting was that the announcement of CS:GO would kill the CS, CS:S scenes.
Their PR talk "We'll release it when the community say it's ready, it might take a 1 month or 2 years" and announcing a release date a couple of months later might have been the final blow to lose the trust with the community.
Now it might be a bit late to release the game the community wants, valve only has one more update, maybe two, before they release the full game, and if by then it's not good enough for the pro gaming scene it will just kill the scene, no doubt.
2012-08-11 02:15:05
Right I see fair enough, you got me on the spectate mode, didn't really get into the other points I raised (AK recoil etc). You talk about the fog, yet they understand the difficulty it actually caused based on what the community feedback, hence why we have competitive maps which remove the fog and useless junk.
Yes they PR talked about releasing the game when it's ready but then it's 'Valve time' and I just feel they won't release it on aug 21st, I could be wrong though.
The scenes were already dead before CS:GO, if a new CS title wasn't round the corner I still think IEM and the rest would have dropped 1.6, the game was shrinking by size etc. I also still believe CS:GO is the 'transition CS' at present but i do want people to move over to show that CS is worth giving a shit about.
What we are lucky with is with a determined community, we can get changes done, and as I said with people like j3di helping Valve we can get the game in a good competitive state.
Yes they PR talked about releasing the game when it's ready but then it's 'Valve time' and I just feel they won't release it on aug 21st, I could be wrong though.
The scenes were already dead before CS:GO, if a new CS title wasn't round the corner I still think IEM and the rest would have dropped 1.6, the game was shrinking by size etc. I also still believe CS:GO is the 'transition CS' at present but i do want people to move over to show that CS is worth giving a shit about.
What we are lucky with is with a determined community, we can get changes done, and as I said with people like j3di helping Valve we can get the game in a good competitive state.
2012-08-11 02:43:17
Look, you're right in your sentiment, but it's not entirely accurate.
Yes, a new era of CS needs to begin - 1.6 is living it's last breath. But all the hyperbolic nostalgic players aren't the people to listen to.
We do need a new CS, but a terrible one isn't what we need. We as players shouldn't move on to a new game just for the sake of it being a new game. We should move on because of quality. If we're not given quality, then we should be moving on to something else. Not just following the herd because it's "the best we've got"
You can't compare RTS/MOBA games to FPS games. DoTA2 feeling different compared to WC3 DoTA is so astronomically different than how CS:GO feels compared to CS1.6
I don't care about ushering in a new game - but don't insult the players by putting it under the guise of "Counter-Strike."
The thing that really makes this a "new era" of CS is that so many people are just willing to bend over and take it because it's what we're being offered. GTR/f0rest/other pro's who are moving on to CS:GO aren't doing it for the game play. They're doing it for the money. Seeing as the drastic majority of all players will not be doing it for that same reason, the only reason you should be moving on is for enjoyment.
If you're a fan of CS:GO, great, play that. If you're a fan of CS1.6, then you should play that instead. But people need to stop acting like we're going to see another heyday of CS where the competition looks like it did a few years ago, just because they're bringing in CS:GO.
Yes, a new era of CS needs to begin - 1.6 is living it's last breath. But all the hyperbolic nostalgic players aren't the people to listen to.
We do need a new CS, but a terrible one isn't what we need. We as players shouldn't move on to a new game just for the sake of it being a new game. We should move on because of quality. If we're not given quality, then we should be moving on to something else. Not just following the herd because it's "the best we've got"
You can't compare RTS/MOBA games to FPS games. DoTA2 feeling different compared to WC3 DoTA is so astronomically different than how CS:GO feels compared to CS1.6
I don't care about ushering in a new game - but don't insult the players by putting it under the guise of "Counter-Strike."
The thing that really makes this a "new era" of CS is that so many people are just willing to bend over and take it because it's what we're being offered. GTR/f0rest/other pro's who are moving on to CS:GO aren't doing it for the game play. They're doing it for the money. Seeing as the drastic majority of all players will not be doing it for that same reason, the only reason you should be moving on is for enjoyment.
If you're a fan of CS:GO, great, play that. If you're a fan of CS1.6, then you should play that instead. But people need to stop acting like we're going to see another heyday of CS where the competition looks like it did a few years ago, just because they're bringing in CS:GO.
2012-08-11 07:39:41
I wonder how much he's getting payed to say that?
2012-08-10 17:58:25
+11111111
2012-08-10 17:59:45
BLA BLA BLA, idiots spamming cs:go threads with "waaaaa we don't want any change, we want to stick with 1.6, cry cry"
Guess what! you don't HAVE to change to GO. I will because I really enjoy it but no one is forcing you to do shit.
Many people are going to like GO and it will be a successful game, not as successful as 1.6 but more successful than source. If you have a genuine problem with the game then stop being a 12 year old and bitching over forums and tell Valve. THE GAME IS IN BETA.
1.6 will die soon enough and one day you guys will have to try the game, just because you can't instantly get a +3 KD ratio doesn't mean you shouldn't persist, how many of you didn't like 1.6 when 1.5 was out?
Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but this is just silly...every cs:go thread I have seen, you childish players have to state your meaningless hatred. Grow up, counter strike is meant to be for a more mature community.
(not mad by the way, just thought I should have my say)
Guess what! you don't HAVE to change to GO. I will because I really enjoy it but no one is forcing you to do shit.
Many people are going to like GO and it will be a successful game, not as successful as 1.6 but more successful than source. If you have a genuine problem with the game then stop being a 12 year old and bitching over forums and tell Valve. THE GAME IS IN BETA.
1.6 will die soon enough and one day you guys will have to try the game, just because you can't instantly get a +3 KD ratio doesn't mean you shouldn't persist, how many of you didn't like 1.6 when 1.5 was out?
Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but this is just silly...every cs:go thread I have seen, you childish players have to state your meaningless hatred. Grow up, counter strike is meant to be for a more mature community.
(not mad by the way, just thought I should have my say)
2012-08-10 18:00:36
you compare the transision of 1.5 -> 1.6 with 1.6->cs:go?
A game that was the main fps for 10 years now gets a sequel which doesn't resemble the original at all (gameplay wise).and the community who waited for a game worthy to replace cs for so long got dissapointed the 2nd time (css 1st,csgo 2nd) and you expect the older players to smile and be satisfied?
the players who are willing to play csgo are mostly <18 years old,so calling the others childish is ridiculous.
Valve checks hltv so they'll probably see all those posts.
A game that was the main fps for 10 years now gets a sequel which doesn't resemble the original at all (gameplay wise).and the community who waited for a game worthy to replace cs for so long got dissapointed the 2nd time (css 1st,csgo 2nd) and you expect the older players to smile and be satisfied?
the players who are willing to play csgo are mostly <18 years old,so calling the others childish is ridiculous.
Valve checks hltv so they'll probably see all those posts.
2012-08-11 00:26:14
Your post is equally as childish as the posts you complain about. I hope you understand the hypocrisy.
2012-08-11 07:40:45
come on guys, just let it go....cs 1.6 is over...we all had a good run, now it's time for new era
P.S. so sick of lil kids writing CS 1.6 forever, be real guys, this is reality!
P.S. so sick of lil kids writing CS 1.6 forever, be real guys, this is reality!
2012-08-10 18:00:58
You 1.6'ers have no brain what so ever, how can you presume that he is payed to say that, he can't have a personal opinion on this matter ? Like someone else said in this newspost, everyone is going to play whatever he wants and likes nobody is enforcing you to play go, its just the new thing the new hype but tbh the 1.6 community alwasy lacked proper IQ so i dont even expect you to understand this shit.
2012-08-10 18:01:42
so he knows how csgo will look like at tha end of tha month
2012-08-10 18:01:47
Well, actually CS:GO is very nice. I really disliked it before, but now when I'm kinda used to the game I can gladly say that it's quite enjoyable.
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2012-08-10 18:05:52
HLTV.org users are so dumb, can't fucking believe it
2012-08-10 18:06:09
Word
2012-08-11 01:39:44
90% of the ppl in this thread is retarded.. You are flameing the game when you actually haven't even tryed the game.. The CS 1.6 e-sport scen is dead. That's a fact.
The ONLY thing we can do to still have CS as an e-sport is to support CS:GO. (we can't rely on CSP)
They are updating the game all the time. Evry time i open CS:GO there have been some new changes to ether the recoil, Movment whatever. It's actully geting good.
Insted of flameing.. why not give it a shot? You have NOTHING to lose.
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The ONLY thing we can do to still have CS as an e-sport is to support CS:GO. (we can't rely on CSP)
They are updating the game all the time. Evry time i open CS:GO there have been some new changes to ether the recoil, Movment whatever. It's actully geting good.
Insted of flameing.. why not give it a shot? You have NOTHING to lose.
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2012-08-10 18:07:59
bullshit. last gameplay update was 4 months ago.
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2012-08-10 18:35:17
and the next will be in a week :)
2012-08-10 20:15:50
and?
check news in steam. tons of updates are coming to dota2 in every day. it's clear valve doesn't give a shit about go
check news in steam. tons of updates are coming to dota2 in every day. it's clear valve doesn't give a shit about go
2012-08-10 20:56:58
Yeah they don't, that's why they are about to release a huge ass update. Read the news.
2012-08-10 21:00:54
do you have any sources what so ever that 90% of the people in here haven't tried the game? Valve have been spitting out keys for the last couple of months so i'm pretty sure most people have tried it.
And yes, we can rely on CSP, as a matter of fact, viewer and playerbase is what makes a game an esport, not the name of the gamestudio behind it.
And yes, we can rely on CSP, as a matter of fact, viewer and playerbase is what makes a game an esport, not the name of the gamestudio behind it.
2012-08-11 14:17:13
What i ment by "we can't rely on CSP was that nothing is happening. Rarly any updates. The update that was suppose to be out in january is still not out. 2 weeks ago they said we(The CS community) whould have an release date for the new update in about a week.. and still nothing.
2012-08-11 16:01:28
The update was supposed to be in January, but then they decided to put in a lot more in the update in stead of a few bugfixes only.
2012-08-11 16:35:23
I bet most these "HOW MUCH DID YOU GET PAID HERP DERP" posts are from people who didn't ever watch a live HeatoN game. The world is about change, why should CS be any different. I've never played CS:GO but I'm not dumb enough to think CS 1.6 will continue competitively and will at least give it a try.
2012-08-10 18:12:33
Well said, Heaton!
2012-08-10 18:14:21
Hmm, "shit talked" CS:GO in my last comment, tried the game (Beta) and now it's actually kinda cool :P last time I tried, it was "shit" :> Maybe the updates that helped ;)!
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2012-08-10 18:15:11
First of all, HeatoN was saying the same thing when CS:GO announced. It'snot surprise. Many people has better aim then him but he thinks he's Neo of these days. His talks are worthless.
No one can force people to play or watch a game that they don't like.
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No one can force people to play or watch a game that they don't like.
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2012-08-10 18:18:59
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive "feels like the right thing." joke?
2012-08-10 18:19:24
Yea yea Emilio...
Well, as long I don't need to play it myself I don't care much. I just hope it will be fun to watch as a spectator.
Well, as long I don't need to play it myself I don't care much. I just hope it will be fun to watch as a spectator.
2012-08-10 18:24:09
rofl hidon
2012-08-10 18:27:21
If i was a millionaire i would literally fly over to each and everyone of you hltv fags that are saying valve paid heaton and every other 1.6 pros to play cs:go and kick you right in the fucking bollocks
You are all so fucking retarded it actually makes me feel physically sick. Why in gods name would Valve pay people to stop playing a game. At the end of the day they don't care what game you play as long as it is a Valve game!
And for the people saying that only source players will succeed in CS:GO you are also retarded, pretty sure 1.6 teams came top 2/3 at the CS:GO tournament in Copenhagen?
It's a new game, its the only FPS game that can get FPS back on the eSports map. support it or fuck off you cretins
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You are all so fucking retarded it actually makes me feel physically sick. Why in gods name would Valve pay people to stop playing a game. At the end of the day they don't care what game you play as long as it is a Valve game!
And for the people saying that only source players will succeed in CS:GO you are also retarded, pretty sure 1.6 teams came top 2/3 at the CS:GO tournament in Copenhagen?
It's a new game, its the only FPS game that can get FPS back on the eSports map. support it or fuck off you cretins
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2012-08-10 18:28:08
Yeah, there are so many people plays CS for living that's why they have to support Csgo, right?
Everybody play what he wants.
Everybody play what he wants.
2012-08-10 18:31:44
You should start a fundraiser for that trip. All these virgin neckbeards needs a good kicking.
2012-08-10 18:33:36
looking through this website i would need to be the richest man in the world. Fuck me theres a lot of nuts on this site that need to be kicked, repeatedly.
2012-08-10 18:41:57
Do you accept PayPal?
2012-08-11 01:40:52
i will play call of duty .. not a fail game like cs go
2012-08-10 18:28:59
I go back to cod too and continue where I left:o)
2012-08-10 18:48:37
so many discrimination here :x
People have the right to have a free opinion about anything, like was said here before if u don't like its ok don't play it, if you like it its ok too, and if you think the game is nice but not good as cs 1.6 but maybe will have some improvements (i think it will) its ok too.
Remember we are free to chose what we want, atleast thats what says in the human rights.. :)
People have the right to have a free opinion about anything, like was said here before if u don't like its ok don't play it, if you like it its ok too, and if you think the game is nice but not good as cs 1.6 but maybe will have some improvements (i think it will) its ok too.
Remember we are free to chose what we want, atleast thats what says in the human rights.. :)
2012-08-10 18:38:15
why you flame so much about it?
it wont change anything... he wants money,as everyone of us... some have it by a good way,some by a bad way,by lying and shit like that...
wake up.
it wont change anything... he wants money,as everyone of us... some have it by a good way,some by a bad way,by lying and shit like that...
wake up.
2012-08-10 18:38:16
Humans are just humans, creature without any power comparing to what his mind want, girls and money can stop all what people like ;)
2012-08-10 18:38:46
All it takes is a barbeque to form a top team.
2012-08-10 18:42:12
yep looks like it
2012-08-10 19:00:37
+1
2012-08-10 19:01:01
I can't belive how much narrow minded kids are here.For fck sake grow up already, how can you ahte something that you never tried...
I feel so bad right now as a part of this comunity, because of comment like : "die csgo" , "csgo sucks" , "It's COD" and similar...
If you don't like it ,don't play it, you also have filter and you should turn off csgo news.Someone said "i will plat CoD and not game like cs:go - Ok, how will dropping 1.6 and some players switching to go , change your 1.6 life ? Most of you will continue to casualy play 1.6 (gathers mixes, etc...).
It's not like valave will delete 1.6.I can also bet that more than 60% of haters will try cs:go sooner or later.
At the end if game is bad, players will leave it, like it was caase with css.And ofcourse it's all about the money.That's why it's called professional gaming, players are living from their salaries.
I'm convinced that you would drop your current low-paid job for new job with higher salary.
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I feel so bad right now as a part of this comunity, because of comment like : "die csgo" , "csgo sucks" , "It's COD" and similar...
If you don't like it ,don't play it, you also have filter and you should turn off csgo news.Someone said "i will plat CoD and not game like cs:go - Ok, how will dropping 1.6 and some players switching to go , change your 1.6 life ? Most of you will continue to casualy play 1.6 (gathers mixes, etc...).
It's not like valave will delete 1.6.I can also bet that more than 60% of haters will try cs:go sooner or later.
At the end if game is bad, players will leave it, like it was caase with css.And ofcourse it's all about the money.That's why it's called professional gaming, players are living from their salaries.
I'm convinced that you would drop your current low-paid job for new job with higher salary.
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2012-08-10 18:43:24
yep it feels awesome
2012-08-10 18:46:27
this it's all bcz there are sponsor are paying HEATON and SPAWN!!!!!!
2012-08-10 18:52:04
has everyone noticed that the pro 1.6'ers dont pass the age of 18 :) and i thought to be 18 is pretty mature enough but sadly it isn't
2012-08-10 18:56:38
who is heaton?
auh, just a businessman
auh, just a businessman
2012-08-10 18:57:13
How much did Valve pay you heaton how much?
2012-08-10 18:57:36
and they gonna play against only Source Teams and everyone dont care about that ...
2012-08-10 18:59:11
YES FUCK YEAH GO HEATON AND NIP. NOW WE JUST NEED X 3 BACK!!!!!!!!
<3 oldskool cs forever but 1.6 was garbage, 1.5 for life!!!!
Time for something fresh, cs:go or die bitchaz!!!
<3 oldskool cs forever but 1.6 was garbage, 1.5 for life!!!!
Time for something fresh, cs:go or die bitchaz!!!
2012-08-10 18:59:37
how is heaton? spawn and 1.6 feels right =)
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2012-08-10 19:06:06
Everyones talking shit about CSGO when it's still in beta and CS was just as bad back in 2000's up until 1.6
2012-08-10 19:08:03
the first versions of cs actually evolved with every version,in a good way, so you would expect css/csgo to be a step forward and they are NOT. If they were i don't think that so many peaople who grew up playing cs and who still play it would trash it so much... I am personally open for some fresh air in cs but csgo feels like a different game :/ it's not the weapon/model names and same maps that make it counter strike it's the gameplay. And it is possible even if it's on a source engine,the csp devs proved that you can make the gamplay more 1.6 -like...
2012-08-10 20:55:20
Lol amazing post.
2012-08-11 00:30:55
Maybe you should try to decipher it first.
I just can't believe you're wasting this much time being on a 1.6 forum when your a CSS player, your forums dead or something?
I just can't believe you're wasting this much time being on a 1.6 forum when your a CSS player, your forums dead or something?
2012-08-11 15:41:25
"when your a CSS player".
I'm a CSS player yes, but I started on 1.6, sooooo I enjoy being here for the reason of keeping my head in the know, especially for the run in of CS:GO, it keeps me clued up on who may switch etc.
I deciphered his post, and still cant quite get my head around how stupid he is.
I'm a CSS player yes, but I started on 1.6, sooooo I enjoy being here for the reason of keeping my head in the know, especially for the run in of CS:GO, it keeps me clued up on who may switch etc.
I deciphered his post, and still cant quite get my head around how stupid he is.
2012-08-11 21:41:05
Well but it's true to some extent even if it's stupid, you'd expect newer to be better, but valve is like windows, every new update is worse then the previous one.
2012-08-12 01:33:00
The problem is it isn't anything like that, different does not make a game worse than a predecessor.
2012-08-12 02:10:48
I think that in a negative way it does.
2012-08-12 04:20:27
lol....
2012-08-12 14:14:35
if they're making bad changes it's obviously negative and when you're trying to make changes you're trying to do it for the better not for the worse when it comes to making new versions of a game, understand?
2012-08-12 16:52:42
No, because you really haven't followed on from my point properly.
Just because something is DIFFERENT to whatever has happened before, does not mean it is WORSE.
Just because something is DIFFERENT to whatever has happened before, does not mean it is WORSE.
2012-08-12 17:23:45
Not necessarily no, but this is all based around opinions and my opinion is that it has CHANGED for the WORSE.
sure, competitive maps can fix it and similar recoil, but that's all we really need, not much more and if it has more support then CSP then poeple will make the switch to cs:go.
sure, competitive maps can fix it and similar recoil, but that's all we really need, not much more and if it has more support then CSP then poeple will make the switch to cs:go.
2012-08-12 17:38:48
I agree that the comments about heaton being a sell-out are retarded but I must say I can't understand how he can say that CS:GO "feels right". I have 27 hours played on CS:GO and imho the gameplay is so fucking bad it's like they don't give a shit about it. They're focusing on improving anything else than gameplay it seems. Maybe they will focus on gameplay in the upcomming updates but imo the first priority for a game should allways be gameplay and only gameplay and right now it's really really bad :(
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2012-08-10 19:09:59
I also have 20 hours on CSGO and it feels right to me.
People have different opinions, deal with it.
People have different opinions, deal with it.
2012-08-10 19:59:25
It's not like I don't respect your opinion I just think you have bad taste in gameplay.
2012-08-10 20:30:45
I guess you didn't play in the previous Beta version, which was god awful. But with next updates it got progressively better and most importantly Fun. Also there are big updates coming, one big in few days. I can see this game becoming big.
2012-08-10 21:13:50
I have played since first beta version up to now and I really don't think it improved that much tbh and as I said, why not focus on gameplay from scratch instead of making it the last area they focus on?. Lets see if the next big update will change all this. I really hope it does.
2012-08-10 21:41:44
+1
2012-08-11 18:36:43
Omg Valve paid HeatoN to say something like that ?
2012-08-10 19:13:52
Hahaha ! Thats a big fake. Heaton just have to advertising . I'm sure that valve did it........
2012-08-10 19:15:37
HeatoN was asked (hell maybe he's even paid) to give advice and contribution for CS:GO development. so a part of CS:GO is based on his idea... it's obvious that he has to praise it
2012-08-10 19:26:48
cs:go will be the future
2012-08-10 19:27:49
the money feels right, heaton shameboy
merc + traitor
forest merc + traitor, already when he was streaming he was MERC
same get_right merc + traitor
all merc traitors shameboys!!
merc + traitor
forest merc + traitor, already when he was streaming he was MERC
same get_right merc + traitor
all merc traitors shameboys!!
2012-08-10 19:30:01
Heaton speaks the truth!
2012-08-10 19:32:55
CS 1.6 is passed life support , its getting ready for funeral service at this point .....
2012-08-10 19:33:47
how much money valve given to promote cs;go :S
:@
cs 1.6 else csp!
:@
cs 1.6 else csp!
2012-08-10 19:35:29
Next marionette. Fucking joke
2012-08-10 19:42:44
this is the true face of fanatical 1.6 fanboys, people who don't even have respect for the big man himself HeatoN , and call him a sellout cus he is trying to improve the CS scene instead of letting it DIE, or worse, switch to fucking Cod/BF3 .... Heaton is trying to keep a CS game as a main title in esports ...
what are you retards doing? flaming a game and making the scene grow smaller and smaller,
i am ashamed of you kids ....
what are you retards doing? flaming a game and making the scene grow smaller and smaller,
i am ashamed of you kids ....
2012-08-10 19:49:07
fanboy detected
what exactly is he doing to keep the cs scene alive tard?
all hes doin since his retirement is working for ZOWIE, for MONEY. hes hasnt been involved in organizing anything which cs scene has profited from.
what exactly is he doing to keep the cs scene alive tard?
all hes doin since his retirement is working for ZOWIE, for MONEY. hes hasnt been involved in organizing anything which cs scene has profited from.
2012-08-10 20:01:55
No need to call anyone names. Thank you.
2012-08-10 23:55:45
1.6 community is so stupid, it seems like a sect
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2012-08-10 19:53:45
I hope that source players rocks this game D:
2012-08-10 20:04:39
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMxX-QOV9tI
2012-08-10 20:09:32
it feels nice but it's a different game, you can't compare it to 1.6, you have to learn how to play it.
2012-08-10 20:12:17
And 1.5k players who are playing CS:GO currently are with you! haha
2012-08-10 20:28:35
HeatoN, you retard I used to respect you, but that bullshit words proof many things.
2012-08-10 20:29:29
for nearly 4-5 months updates have been pretty much useless.... if they are saving the major update for the big release, it a good thing, but if nothing is up their sleeve on the main release, then its an average game. Previous update regarding the movements, and considerably better(not good)recoil control than before, was the only major and good update.
2012-08-10 20:40:48
Its feels great to know that you have powerful team in new game that has potential to become number one in it. CoD has its players for the years and this game will too.
2012-08-10 21:16:05
I hope the next updates make the game more competitive or else i won't be playing it.
2012-08-10 21:23:32
Haters gonna hate :)
2012-08-10 21:25:39
comedy
2012-08-10 21:33:53
I believe you, HeatoN!
2012-08-10 21:37:44
Bunch of clowns on this website. He's not saying the gameplay feels good or anything like that. He's saying it feels right to move on from 1.6 and source (they're dead, get over it), and to all move to a new game to bring back CS as the #1 esports title. CS becoming popular again can never be done with 1.6 and source.
If you still think we should hang on to 1.6, you're an idiot.
If you still think we should hang on to 1.6, you're an idiot.
2012-08-10 21:37:52
Well how can it be right to move on to a game which you don't think is fun to play?
Either he knows some secret settings that makes the game much more playable or he is just so confident that the game will improve big time for the better.
Either he knows some secret settings that makes the game much more playable or he is just so confident that the game will improve big time for the better.
2012-08-10 21:47:49
If you (or anyone else) don't think it's fun, fair enough. You can stay with 1.6 or quit forever. No one is making you play csgo but if you want to move CS forward as an e-sports title, trying to clutch onto 1.6/source is not the thing to do and is only hurting competitive CS as a whole.
So anyone who is ignorant and says "No, let's stay with 1.6" or "1.6 forever!!" is just silly. Competitive 1.6 and source are finished. I'm speaking purely from a competition view, though. If you're a casual player who just wants to have a little fun and doesn't care about the competition, then play what you want :)
So anyone who is ignorant and says "No, let's stay with 1.6" or "1.6 forever!!" is just silly. Competitive 1.6 and source are finished. I'm speaking purely from a competition view, though. If you're a casual player who just wants to have a little fun and doesn't care about the competition, then play what you want :)
2012-08-10 23:21:27
CS for me is the awesome gameplay. If it doesn't have that then i don't care if its called CS or whatever. Sure i want CS to move forward but I want it to be an improvement not a downgrade.
I'm just criticizing the whole developement of CS:GO as it has been so far.
I'm just criticizing the whole developement of CS:GO as it has been so far.
2012-08-11 01:19:54
bunch of clowns, lol!
u r a joke. csgo is for casual player. and thats why so many pros didnt want to swtch to csgo and criticize on csgo so hard previously.
they got f0rest, gtr and even xizt, then u r saying 1.6 is dead. thats funny. remember most 1.6 pros still stay on cs1.6, they and many sponsors are still waiting to see the real final csgo.
you seem like more diligent than the valve advertising team for supporting csgo. u dont understand what is competitive. competitive gaming is first about the gameplay itself.
u r a joke. csgo is for casual player. and thats why so many pros didnt want to swtch to csgo and criticize on csgo so hard previously.
they got f0rest, gtr and even xizt, then u r saying 1.6 is dead. thats funny. remember most 1.6 pros still stay on cs1.6, they and many sponsors are still waiting to see the real final csgo.
you seem like more diligent than the valve advertising team for supporting csgo. u dont understand what is competitive. competitive gaming is first about the gameplay itself.
2012-08-11 08:41:46
You're a clown. Enjoy your dead 1.6. At least there will always be the public servers for you to play in. ;)
2012-08-11 12:31:09
since you got nothing to say，call me whatever ，the words speak themselves who is the clown，and excuse me for no further cooperation with your trashtalkin.
2012-08-11 12:52:44
CSGO "has" now 3 of your best players, the polish golden five is considering the move towards this newer game (especially neo, loord and taz, who have been playing a lot of csgo lately), the entire american scene has already switched (over 150teams at the eswc qualifiers with names like frod, nothing, storm, pauly, swag, etc), fnatic players will probs switch too after the last dreamhack. The only team that have said some negative things towards global offensive is na'vi, and i think some of them will switch to csgo, and some will quit cs.
2012-08-11 12:35:54
Chuck Norris approves.
2012-08-10 22:50:31
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2012-08-10 21:43:32
heaton would praise a goat if some1 offers him enough money
2012-08-10 21:56:51
made my day
2012-08-10 22:08:57
ah, Heaton, that guy who fucked up all the streams at Copenhagen Games (or whatever tournament it was), I see...
Surprised he didn't say cs:go is more tactical.
P.S. So many cs:go defenders these days just prove the fact that valve got it absolutely right - for the biggest part of the community (kids mostly) advertising is everything, they play games because it's "cool" to play a specific game at this very moment, not because they really like it more than others of that type, and when it becomes "not cool" they easily switch to a new one kindly brought to them by the developer. That how the market works, nothing more to say.
Surprised he didn't say cs:go is more tactical.
P.S. So many cs:go defenders these days just prove the fact that valve got it absolutely right - for the biggest part of the community (kids mostly) advertising is everything, they play games because it's "cool" to play a specific game at this very moment, not because they really like it more than others of that type, and when it becomes "not cool" they easily switch to a new one kindly brought to them by the developer. That how the market works, nothing more to say.
2012-08-10 22:39:12
No, the csgo "supporters" realize 1.6 and source are finished. They want to continue to see CS, even if it will never be as good as 1.6, as a top e-sports title because competing is a lot of fun. The lack of sponsors/tournaments/competition in 1.6/source have made it less fun to compete.
2012-08-10 23:26:16
+1
2012-08-11 08:25:19
I didn't recive a beta key so i haven't played the game but from watching footage of the game I don't think it feels right.
1st of all I just hate the graphics in the game.Everything looks plasticky and rather odd.There is a lot of unnecessary thing that can distract you while playing.
The animations look horrible as far as kills are concerned and that blur on the AWP is just awful.
The sounds of the m4 and the ak are just horrendous.They sound like toys instead of guns(don't know how did the update effect that).
Profesional CS:S is long dead and 1.6 will follow soon but I don't think CS:GO(with no major changes) will be the next great CS game.
CSP isn't bad but it has been in the making for too long.But still I think it has a shot especially if they do manage to do that texture updates and death cam animations right.
If CS:GO turns out to be a bad game and CSP fails I'll rather switch to LoL(or maybe DoTA2 if I'll like it) than support a shitty CS game
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1st of all I just hate the graphics in the game.Everything looks plasticky and rather odd.There is a lot of unnecessary thing that can distract you while playing.
The animations look horrible as far as kills are concerned and that blur on the AWP is just awful.
The sounds of the m4 and the ak are just horrendous.They sound like toys instead of guns(don't know how did the update effect that).
Profesional CS:S is long dead and 1.6 will follow soon but I don't think CS:GO(with no major changes) will be the next great CS game.
CSP isn't bad but it has been in the making for too long.But still I think it has a shot especially if they do manage to do that texture updates and death cam animations right.
If CS:GO turns out to be a bad game and CSP fails I'll rather switch to LoL(or maybe DoTA2 if I'll like it) than support a shitty CS game
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2012-08-10 23:52:03
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
2012-08-11 00:12:10
RiP Heaton... Say hello to him little friend... i mean $-€
2012-08-11 00:25:35
and suddenly the people turned on heaton and hate him, omg
2012-08-11 00:33:43
none of the people ripping on heaton are real cs fans anyways. just a bunch of late to the party scrubs with shitty computers
2012-08-11 00:36:27
ahahah +1
2012-08-12 08:19:49
yeah you saw some frags from him on yt and he is the best player b4 1.6 for you cuz you don't know any1 else. But that's understandable you're just 17,like the rest of the csgo lovers parade...
2012-08-11 00:40:38
actually ive been playing cs since beta 3 before the weapon sweep existed. i watched x3 vs nip on hltv you fuckin moron, who are you now? the past 5 years of 1.6 has been 1 big euro circle jerk, nothing compared to when it was a global game.
2012-08-11 01:06:24
Take it easy. Thank you.
2012-08-11 01:25:39
Your intelligence and knowledge is obviously shining through more then a crystal glimmering in the sun.
2012-08-11 15:48:29
he just got paid to say this...
2012-08-11 15:35:06
How is this worthy of a news post? I'm truly disappointed Pus..
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2012-08-11 16:27:33
-1
2012-08-11 17:08:47
Go CS:GO!
2012-08-11 20:44:13
"Why are some of you so dumb?
Yeah i also love 1.6 .. i played it for 12 years. Besides I HATED source...
But after that update it's a really playable game! Everybody who is saying "lololol random recoil" played it for 1-2 hours. You wanna say me that you learned 1.6 in 2 hours? I dont think so. You need time to arrange yourself with the new recoil. But hey... it's easier to say "lol, shit game, recoils i random"... Idiots.
Cs is dying and im not happy about that (instead i am really sad about that..).
ESL cuts the CS AND CSS EPS, fnatic,mouz,sk and other teams are retiering... So yeah.. you wanna say cs 1.6 is alive? Hold your illusions..
They want to reunite the 2 communities. CS:GO have the requirements to make this reunion possible.
You wanna know why its possible?
- official support from valve
- many progamers are supporting CS:Go
- better netcode
- Casualmode und ELO-Matchmaking
- Steam Workshop for CS:GO
- cheap price
and so on. I don't want to describe every point. Go get some informations! And please... stop that dumb ass populisitc crying...
And thats why i don't understand some "LOLOLOLOL CS 1.6 FOREVER" - Faggots. I mean... It's our LAST chance for the FPS-section.
Games like SC2 or LoL are watched by so many people and sponsors are supporting those games.
They eliminate the shooter section.
Thats why i have to ask: are u serious? Is this your biggest problem? Freting about cs 1.6 which is dying?
Poor community.
Wake up!
Just my 2 cents.
Yeah i also love 1.6 .. i played it for 12 years. Besides I HATED source...
But after that update it's a really playable game! Everybody who is saying "lololol random recoil" played it for 1-2 hours. You wanna say me that you learned 1.6 in 2 hours? I dont think so. You need time to arrange yourself with the new recoil. But hey... it's easier to say "lol, shit game, recoils i random"... Idiots.
Cs is dying and im not happy about that (instead i am really sad about that..).
ESL cuts the CS AND CSS EPS, fnatic,mouz,sk and other teams are retiering... So yeah.. you wanna say cs 1.6 is alive? Hold your illusions..
They want to reunite the 2 communities. CS:GO have the requirements to make this reunion possible.
You wanna know why its possible?
- official support from valve
- many progamers are supporting CS:Go
- better netcode
- Casualmode und ELO-Matchmaking
- Steam Workshop for CS:GO
- cheap price
and so on. I don't want to describe every point. Go get some informations! And please... stop that dumb ass populisitc crying...
And thats why i don't understand some "LOLOLOLOL CS 1.6 FOREVER" - Faggots. I mean... It's our LAST chance for the FPS-section.
Games like SC2 or LoL are watched by so many people and sponsors are supporting those games.
They eliminate the shooter section.
Thats why i have to ask: are u serious? Is this your biggest problem? Freting about cs 1.6 which is dying?
Poor community.
Wake up!
Just my 2 cents.
2012-08-11 21:47:29
its like water polo, youre maybe the best, but people are still like ..... ?
2012-08-11 22:20:36
cs 1.6 best game ever..but why not switch cs:go when they force that game..maybe we will have that pleasure like in cs 1.6 :)
2012-08-12 01:47:08
I would've said the same thing for the right price :)
2012-08-12 14:16:18
feels my ass right, played it 5 hours on DM and it feel like shit. Recoil is fucked up, movement is 0. Game itself isn't suitable to be named counter strike.
2012-08-13 10:27:48
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