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DreamHack has announced Counter-Strike: Global Offensive as one of their tournament games with a whopping prize purse of 300,000 SEK (~$45,000 USD) and sixteen teams.
Traditionally held at Elmia in Jönköping, DreamHack Winter will take place on November 22-25th in Sweden and will once again feature a massive Counter-Strike tournament, although for Global Offensive instead of 1.6 this time. Whether a CS 1.6 tournament is also planned is still unknown.
The tournament will be open to sixteen teams, found via direct invites, online and LAN qualifiers, as well as the on-site BYOC qualifier.
As usual, the tournament will kick off with a group stage that will feature four groups of four teams each and see the amount of teams split in half as only eight will progress to the playoffs.
From there on out it will be a single elimination best-of-three bracket with the following prize distribution, suggesting that no third place decider will once again be played.
DreamHack Winter 2012 prize distribution:
1. 150,000 SEK (~$22,500)
2. 75,000 SEK (~11,250)
3. 25,000 SEK (~$3,750)
4. 25,000 SEK (~$3,750)
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive will come out next week and with teams such as Ninjas in Pyjamas already preparing for the events to come, you can expect HLTV.org to be on-site in Jönköping to provide you with full coverage of the event.
Just hope they get the headshot feeling back from 1.6, nothing can beat 5 headshots the way it was shown in 1.6 =]
Other than that I think CS:GO isn't all that bad, more 1.6 players just need to give it a chance. Then again the map changes are not for the better in most cases (specially train) and so much random stuff in it blocking the path yet not good enough for cover.
Also some of the most awesome wallbang spots are gone. Thats what made CS unique, CS:GO kinda made it just another shooter with bomb plant/defusal =[
But, 150 + 75 + 25 + 25 = 275 :O
How can 275kSEK=45$ and 45k$=300kSEK?
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Post edited 2012-08-13 16:05:54
CS:GO > CSP in players and sponsors
CSP > CS:GO gameplay !
I love CS 1.6, and it's never ever gonna change. But the fact we cant deny is that nothing is forever, we have to move on, and so does CS 1.6. Why dont we help developers improving game such as CSP, CSGO so that those games can not only reach the CS "1.6 standard" we already set but furthermore, will be a better game than CS 1.6?
j4f lets predict the grand final :)
5.000 source specs
10.000 1.6 specs
I saw some CSS g final (if only i remembered wich one) betwen verygames and TT.dragons that had 1.800 spectators.
I [overdrev] when i said 5000 o.o
CS:GO spectators: 80% 1.6 players?
CS:GO players: 80% source players?
CS:GO players: 80% kids?
we dont know anything yet :)
Post edited 2012-08-13 16:24:38
cs1.6, css, cz, csgo. Playing all the CS version
Did you really just say that, I mean really?
The majority of Source players are now well over 18 +. I'm 24, and then the majority of top players are well into their 20's.
The casual scene generally follows the same pattern (hell there are still some 40 - 50 year olds who play the game).
and 5k specators from source community
that will watch the CS:GO g final
Post edited 2012-08-14 12:54:15
Not that is not "obvious" sir ;)
What would i know about CoD4?
Post edited 2012-08-13 17:03:21
Post edited 2012-08-13 16:35:17
VeryGames vs NiP in final
VeryGames: RpK - NBKK - Ex6TenZ - kennyS - apEX
ROCKSTAR: GeT_RiGhT - f0rest - eRalos - magikerN - face
so only 2 guys from the new NiP r in there... do ur homework b4 fuckin' around, kid.
Post edited 2012-08-13 17:49:08
The only reason why source "died" or never got as big was because it was competing with 1.6 in its glory days, now that 1.6 is out of the way CS GO will take over and be thriving in a years time imo.
If 1.6 was in the state it is now back when source was released i bet source would have gotten a lot bigger.
The way source is now, it's actually a really good game and I know pretty much all cs 1.6'ers will dissagree but it's much better than CSP.
"since the game has a 45k tourney, it must be popular"
The reason a 45k tourney has been launched is to increase the popularity forcefully, to forcefully make the 1.6rs move to GO
1.6 had large prize money BECAUSE it was popular. Not the other way round
How the hell do you deduce from my statement that i think the game is popular. instead if you had good logic you would see it as showing that this game has promise and people are getting behind it.
and forcefully try and move 1.6ers? haha, wake up, 1.6 is competitively dead. No one needs to try and move 1.6ers.
and your quote,
"1.6 had large prize money BECAUSE it was popular. Not the other way round"
So what? whats your point? this is a good thing are you seriously taking the stance that CS GO tournaments with nice prize pools is a bad thing? please enlighten me how aside from the fact that you are so butt hurt because you don't like the game and its just another realisation that 1.6 is that much more dead and gone which makes you bitter?
by the way, Nix we need interview with f0rest =D
Post edited 2012-08-13 15:57:14
I will say this, the game is already off to a good start. Lol
Valve have been throwing money at Dota 2 and ahve said they wont be funding CSGO like they do with dota2
I love the manner and attitude you elaborate your statement, peace.
Your are truly a CS lover, not like others, seems troll
It will be better if you wouldnt ever have any good cs 1.6 team, will be better for u ukrainian fanboys to admit cs:go, less pain in ass :D
by the way, I'm thinking that you're troll. after read all you posts.
Last years of Counter-Strike 1.6:
Swedish team in fnatic dominated 2009
Swedish team in SK dominate 2011
Swedish team in fnatic dominate 2012
Whenever CS dies, it will be remembered as a game mastered by swedes.
HAHAHAHA cool story bro
2011 was like equal for navi/esc/sk. they have no domination there.
You are clueless, cuz of to much slavic fanboiesZZism.
By some means it was a split between SK and ESC year of 2011 but more objective voices choose SK of 2011. however navi wasnt in that top1 race, and not since 2010, only by ukr fan kiddies. You are the first stated such thing like navi split the top1 of 2011 with SK or even golden5.
And btw the topelite veterans of CS like cArn, lurppis, dsn and objective alltimers like that who played them all just told cogu is the best awpwer ever.
So that gives us
top1 alltime awp:
live with it, deal with , face it
mTw 2008 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fnatic 2009
SK 2003 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fnatic 2009
and there was no domination in 2011. it was good year for ESC/NAVI/SK.
1) Na`Vi in 2010 beat the money record that ever was in CS 1.6.
2) Na`Vi in 2010 won 3 of 3 biggest events in the year and beat the record, because there was not team created who can win 3 of 3 biggest events in the year, except NAVI - WCG, IEM, ESWC.
3) 4 players of the team were in top20, 3 were in top5 and markeloff was top1 player of the year.
And now about 2011:
they all were equal... But the luck was at ESC's side, so ESC was named the team of 2011. but i'd say it was very arguable.
fnatic in 2009 for sure were not better than NAVI in 2010, Na`Vi were monsters in 2010, and in 2011 they were monsters too, always top1-2-3, for sure with some mistakes.
And at last you forgot mTw too, in 2008 they were better than fnatic in 2009 too. Just compare
NA`Vi > fnatic
mTw > fnatic
SK 2003 > fnatic
fnatic = SK 2011
But ofc 2010 navi dominated who said something else, but they have been top1 1 year of their 3 years of existence, so take it a bit easy with your false arguements,
however whenever CS dies it will be remembered as a game mastered by swedes.
Did that hurt to much to hear you have to cry the world another ocean.. poor one eyed slavic ppls.
You are the one clueless here boy. Please do some rsearch before you talk shit. Navi 2010 is comparable to fnatic 2009 but no way sk ever had a team = to fnatic 2009, nor did mtw.
retarded story by slavic fanboy
Slavic? I'm damn pround that I am.
but yeah maybe you 1.6 crying fan should start to move on in life instead of constantly whining and bitching over 1.6 is dead and you can't adapt to a new game.
Get the money
Dollar, dollar bill y'all
Well be interesting to see CS:GO at top level , I hope NiP fails hardly !
CSS once had a 500'000 $ winner prize tournament.
Nevertheless that game never became a big esport-titel.
Post edited 2012-08-13 16:16:41
Never liked the game and therefor didn't play it. Who the fuck watches a game he doesn't play himself?
Or do you think I would have played CSS although I didn't enjoyed it because there was an almost non-existent chance to participate on a ridiculous non-sense tournament with high prize money?
To answer your question:
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Post edited 2012-08-13 16:36:52
I will never play a game I don't like.
If you play a game you don't like just because of some prize money (which you probably will never win), you're wasting your time.
Btw: If it would be only about prize money, you would be an idiot to play CS anyway.
Post edited 2012-08-13 16:45:45
The tournament was a huge joke and the organizers got broke after season 2.
Post edited 2012-08-13 16:39:51
Even as a hardcore CS fan it was TERRIBLE to follow.
the crowd looked bored watching nerds and geeks play video games haha. i remember that kid "sunman" coming out everytime with that gay ass teddy bear. wtf?? how old was that guy. makes me feel ashamed for even watching CGS at the time. cs:go will fail like this because the game is so boring to spectate. less viewers = no more invested tournaments.
The German CS community showed almost 0 interest for the CGS. That's just a fact.
2. If you want a lot of European viewers you should better care about Germany since it's (beside Russia) the European country with the highest population.
3. The organisation behind the CGS was American, but the tournament was international. There were teams from Germany, the UK, France, ...
Post edited 2012-08-13 21:05:52
would have made more sence
everything eventually has an end, its life, deal with it.
Out with the old in with the new.
CS 1.6 tour. - 5,000$
CS:GO tour. - 500,000$
But, they can't ruin CS 1.6 for us, not pro players, only people who love the 1.6 ;)
CS:GO is the future!!! <3
Post edited 2012-08-13 16:39:02
but people tell me try to adopt it
I just can't...
hltv.org will cover this ofc?
"1. 150,000 SEK (~$22,500)
2. 75,000 SEK (~11,250)
3. 25,000 SEK (~$3,750)
4. 25,000 SEK (~$3,750)"
150 + 75 + 25 + 25 = 275?
Am I missing something here?
You know why? Beacuse you care too much about Global Offensive
I think Source & CGS didn't do it right because they were trying to replace a still living and successful game that was 1.6 that had steam left. But it seems like 1.6 AND source have reached their ends and support has been dropping out even without the introduction of CS:GO. The FPS community has lost interest with the gaming world and many people now just watch LoL or SC2. Local 1.6 and Source leagues still exist but internationally, it has really died out. I think it is time for a new FPS game and the one we're presented with is CS:GO. The timing is right.
I also think that the gameplay is coming along. Of course, it's a work in progress and it's a lot slower than we want but I hope eventually they get it right. I'm more positive than negative about progress because I've seen the progress that has been made so far. It's been getting better and I think more is on the way. Remember, it's not supposed to be a replica of 1.6. I think that's a big concept that people aren't able to grasp. It is undeniable that 1.6 was successful because of the game that it is but times have changed.
Post edited 2012-08-13 17:45:37
I don't think the mass (very young, americans, console owners, low skilled in general) will stop to play their CoD or BF3 to play this new CS, a lot of 1.6 players seems to dislike the way the game is going, but for sure almost every CSS player will play and enjoy it.
and i bet some of the better 1.6 teams could take this
Nvidia gt 9500
2 gb ram ddr2
& still can't play cs 1.6 without fps droping :) My pc is posesed by some computer draining magic
They shouldn't wait for too long though as those tournaments are 'at the doors' and it would be strange to host a CS 1.6 tournament in order to get a spot for a CS:GO one.
And every single complaint about how terrible and unplayable game GO is simply does not give a lot of sense, because GO is still in beta mode and the purpose of GO is to make a bit different game, not just same like 1.6 with better graphics.Sponsors ale looking for new opportunities and new faces.Except recoil, which is nowadays bit weird, it IS pretty good game.
Post edited 2012-08-13 18:38:59
valve need fixed very much especially recoil
such a big prize!
cs 1.6 professional scene is almost dead, but at least they r supporting another fps game.. let's see the bright side =/
Like i care, Valve is a trash company :P
They fucked up with DotA 2 (copied fully from IceFrog), they fucked up with CS:S and now CS:GO.
They had both games fully made, they just needed to make graphics a bit better, maybe 1 or 2 changes, but nothing serious. Yet, they failed @ that. I say Valve is the only company that can do that.
It's math! GOOD GAME (DOTA, CS) + VALVE = TRASH!
-they fucked dota which i enjoyed playing in wc3 from the very beginning...
-they raped the cs franchise with css and now killed it with csgo...
most stupid comment of all times
This guy have never played DotA and now he speaks how DotA 2 is good game? LOOOL, there are so many bad things Valve did to DotA 2, making DotA better than DotA 2 :D Ironic, yes!
Get informed before u post stupid things like this. Stupid noobs, GO play cs:go, retard.
Post edited 2012-08-13 23:40:30
valve did a great job porting dota on the source engine, its like perfectly done. there are slightly a few bugs left cause its a beta but u can track everything on the checklist at dota2 developer forum.
also dota 2 is way more competitive than wc3 dota, with its stand alone game, those big tournaments today and stuff like spectator mode, dota TV and so on. the game went from a wc3 mod to a stand alone TOP esport game now.
also the skillplay is way higher since u can pull people of the highgrounds etc.
best game of all times <3
not really noticiable when u played like 50 games u dont feel a difference to wc3 dota anymore.
also all pro gamers are in dota 2 now and say the game is better than ever before, even cause it makes way more things possible with the new engine and makes the game a bit harder to master, cause u have more ways to outplay ur enemy.
but ye you know better than the pros, some random dude on hltv.org haha :D i bet ure like one of those 30 year old fags that are to slow to learn something new nowdays and stick to their old stuff and say its the best :D
get some skill, play a few games and u will love dota 2 as all the other pros do and be a part of the soon biggest esport community
Icefrog didn't make the engine of wc3... Neither did he came up with dota,he took over the project,updated,fixed,balanced it. He deserves all the credits for making it popular because he worked hard on it,with monthly updates. But he worked on dota in the wc editor and that is not as hard as making a gamme from scratch -_- he's probably more of a consultant than a dev at valve.
also icefrog is the main head creator of dota 2, he gives all the advices, values etc. valve is just creating the engine and ports icefrogs thoughts on the source engine
inform yourself when u flame the developers here, otherwise u look like a retard
fact is that wc3 dota is just a fun mod for wc3 and now shit noob games like LoL took the credits and make their own game full of noobs, are u happy with it? we need a dota 2 now or people will only remember shit like LoL and stuff, what every 12 year old kid can master :X
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Post edited 2012-08-13 23:11:45
We have to stick together and play the same game, I realy dont like much CSGO,but lets give a chance.
DIE CS:GO!!! CS 1.6 ALIVE PLEASE!!!
proplayers needs to adapt in the game market...
proplayers needs $$$ to survive
no cash in 1.6 = let's play cs:go... a new ground of pure money... it could be a gold mine like in the beginning of 1.5/1.6
ca$h rule$ everything around me