CSP 1.09 release after CS:GO
By: Pus
Time: 2012-08-16 08:48
Game: CSPromod

CSPromod developer team has announced on CSPromod.com that the awaited 1.09 beta version will be made publicly available soon after CS:GO's launch, which is set to happen on August 21.

They also stated they aren't afraid of being in direct competition with CS:GO as CSP is built first and foremost for the competitive games, whereas CS:GO is directed towards a mass market and gathers its competitive side mainly from the CS brand.

The team also recognized the fact CSP has not been receiving consistent enough updates, but said it will change soon as the developer team is expanding which is expected to speed things up immensely in the future.

 

Some of the updates coming out in version 1.09 include a new shader system which will greatly improve visibility of the player models in dark areas, introduction of the CSDM gamemode which was previously beta tested, improvements in the sound system and a plethora of bug fixes and minor changes. In total, the changelog is over a 100 lines long.

Finally, the CSP developer team said they have big ambitions and plans for the near future which will be announced shortly. More information about the changes in the developer team will also be made available soon.

Tags: CSPromod, 1.09

interesting strategy:) lets see how that works out tho
2012-08-16 08:49:45
its old strategy, it's called go head on with big project and feed on it
2012-08-16 08:53:33
you left out the part where they make a better game than the big project.
2012-08-16 17:12:29
no, i didnt
2012-08-16 17:17:29
+1
2012-08-16 18:08:04
Agreed.
2012-08-17 21:16:41
by: rKj
#2
n1
2012-08-16 08:50:10
by: qu1k`
#3
Last hope...
2012-08-16 08:50:37
+1 =(
2012-08-16 13:45:20
+1
2012-08-16 19:28:59
by: uno1
#4
nice :)
2012-08-16 08:53:07
do u play CSP regularly ? :)
2012-08-16 18:10:18
yes ofc
2012-08-16 19:01:21
it's our pretty last chance of having a real pro targeted fps from cs legacy (csgo is pretty far from being competitive, they need to radically change the game)
2012-08-16 08:53:52
like you know what's the first thing of being competitive...
2012-08-16 10:38:30
you probably received your first football when i discovered cs, so please don't be a dick more than your name suggests
2012-12-12 14:55:44
well you and all the pros that have happily switched to cs:go seem to have a difference of opinion on that
2012-08-16 14:35:18
the pros that have happily switched to cs:go are pleased by money, not competitivity
2012-08-16 15:24:55
#yolo
2012-08-16 16:26:57
you have every reason CSPromod is almost ready to play, instead of CSGO in my view lacks many updates.
2012-08-16 16:27:29
the beggining of a new era
2012-08-16 08:55:04
cs promod > cs:go

that's a fact!!
2012-08-16 08:55:13
Nice strategy:
- Wait for CS:GO to get released
- People get disappointed at how bad CS:GO is
- Release near finished CSP version, ready for playing on tournaments
- ??????
- Profit
2012-08-16 08:57:19
Those CSP tournaments must use 1.09 after it released
Sure they will.
=D
2012-08-16 09:02:31
works until point 2 doesen't get real.
2012-08-19 20:44:32
CS:GO is horrendous..
2012-08-21 23:12:02
looks like Pus read it in favour of CSP.
actually it is written "Therefore, we will wait to release 1.09 until after CS:GO has been out for a little while." which imo means that release is postponed indefinitely.
2012-08-16 08:59:14
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#11
looking forward to the release, let's get some games going then! it's a great game for sure.
2012-08-16 08:59:31
Oh lurppis finally you show up
2012-08-16 09:03:09
CSP > CSGO?
2012-08-16 09:15:09
Lurrpis,what do you think about CS:GO at the moment? In march you posted that it is awful. And what now?
2012-08-16 09:18:12
by: rKj
#29
lurrpis loves cs:go hahaha :) will make his own team & smash NiP :)
2012-08-16 09:24:11
I'd like to see it))
2012-08-16 09:25:50
even Tomi himself dont like it at all, but hope dies the last :D
2012-08-16 16:04:45
just follow his twitter or facebook
2012-08-16 10:00:16
or just follow his facebook on yahoo
2012-08-16 10:10:28
for sure CSP>CSGO! but nobody will play it! :(
2012-08-16 12:24:07
it really is loads better than cs go B) hope for cspromod to big tournaments like IEM :D
2012-08-16 14:36:12
Didn't they shoot themselves in the foot? :/
2012-08-16 09:03:58
Took a shot in the arm instead ;)
2012-08-16 16:31:38
Cant wait for 1.09 and then 1.1
2012-08-16 09:05:59
then 1.6 ? :D
2012-08-16 11:37:25
hahaha n1!
2012-08-16 12:18:20
haha :D
2012-08-16 13:05:47
haha :D
2012-08-16 19:35:11
LOL :P
2012-08-16 20:27:36
is it unfair to say, that CSP will be a stillborn babe?
2012-08-16 09:09:22
well I really hope it's not the case. I'm afraid you're right but hope, hope, hope...
2012-08-16 17:11:21
To be honest i kind of hope either CSP or CS:GO bomb out and become shit. Last thing we need is 2 decent games competing with each other and splitting the CS community like it did with 1.6 and Source. Just lead to both games going dead much faster. Id rather CPS become the dominate FPS game but i really dont see it happening.
2012-08-16 09:09:45
+9991
2012-08-16 10:27:15
If csp grows bigger and bigger, valve will just put more money into csgo in order to kill the other fps titles (just like they're doing in dota2) and the csp community will only be composed of a bunch of 1.6 fans, but there won't be any competitive scene, like CS:CZ.

Moreover, i think that valve can stop the csp project if they want. When csp started, valve allowed them to "copy" their own game because it wasn't in competition with CS:S. Now if csp competes with csgo, valve will simply sue them and make the csp project shut down.

And finally, the game is updating slowly (the 1.09 release should have happened last week, and it will arrive after csgo...), pro players aren't interested in it at all, there isn't a lot of people playing it on a daily basis and the release of the full game won't happen before mid-2013

So csp has absolutely no chance to succeed. And that's a FACT
2012-08-16 12:18:35
Yeah, i think the same =(((
2012-08-16 16:00:46
Valve won't sue the CSP team. What is developped with Valve's SDKs is Valve property. They might take it and put a price on it like they did with CS in the past. It was just a mod back then, just like CSP is now. But Valve stated in an interview a few years back that they didn't even looked into CSP at all and are not interested in it.

I think CSP is aimed at an old gaming market and this kind of strategy is outdated now. Gamers are kids that love to smash people using only 2 buttons nowadays, it wasn't like that at all before. Still remember those games you were almost crying on because you just couldn't beat that motherfucking endlevel boss ? You don't see that anymore today. People want easy to master gamers today. CS:GO is one of them, CS:S was one of them, CSP is not and it will suffer from it.
2012-08-16 17:17:21
So true, could agree more!
2012-08-18 15:37:13
With the small correction that CS:GO is not a decent game.
2012-08-16 12:37:13
With the small correction that CS:GO is still in BETA phase...
2012-08-16 14:55:27
with the small correction that it will come out in 5 days and the beta ended uhmmm
2012-08-16 16:41:03
beta didn't end yet, and a steam game being released doesn't mean the game won't be updated though now does it?
2012-08-16 17:52:38
The chance of the recoil getting a rework is close to 0%.
2012-08-16 22:25:30
by: jlp
#251
this is bs, the beta kayes are beeing given since ESWC 2011, if the game still isnt good, it will never be, its a fail project
2012-08-16 19:26:25
yet people keep hyping csp which was initially released in what, 2006? don't see your point
2012-08-16 22:01:16
CSP has shown progress in creating a close to 1.6 gameplay which everyone wants. Valve never responded to people like lurppis and the rest of the community who wanted an improvement in the awful recoil pattern the game currently has.
2012-08-16 22:27:19
yes, CSP has progressed a lot in 6 years of developing, but jlp's judging a game a "fail project" because it's not perfect after ~1 year of beta developement.

and don't tell me CS:GO hasn't shown any progress during this time because it has - probably even more than CSP.
2012-08-16 22:33:45
As I wrote - the game has shown zero progress in improving the recoil. They may have improved the textures, UI, models etc. but the main aspect of it remains untouched.
2012-08-17 10:00:52
why the hell are you on about recoil all the time? please do point out where I said anything about recoil (which in my opinion is just fine)?

all I said was that jlp's saying "the beta kayes are beeing given since ESWC 2011, if the game still isnt good, it will never be, its a fail project" is void because csp has been in the developing for good 6 years now and is still being hyped to heavens.
2012-08-17 11:41:09
You seem pretty ignorant than. The main aspect of an FPS title which tends to be competitive is the shooting, isn't it? When the shooting pattern is terribly designed, I don't see a reason for people not to hype over another game/mod which succeeds in creating a decent shooting experience. If you play such games for the graphics and realism, I don't really see a point in this discussion.
2012-08-17 12:33:37
Do these guys have to worry about any copyright issues from valve?
2012-08-16 09:11:03
no
2012-08-16 09:22:27
why should they? there is plenty of mods to CS, why not a "pro" one?
2012-08-16 09:46:44
well they are using the 'counter strike' name. I thought they might have issues if they ever take it off beta and try make some money from it.
2012-08-16 11:18:02
they're not allowed to sell it, of course :P
2012-08-16 11:23:03
They don't use the name "Counter-Strike". The game is called "CSpromod".
2012-08-16 13:15:01
Yes. Valve already threatened them back when the project started. Then they decided to allow them if they changed their name from "Counter Strike Promod" to "CSPromod", but now that csgo is on the table, you can be sure that valve will make lawsuits in order to shut down the project if csp gets bigger and competes with GO
2012-08-16 12:25:06
I don't think so.
That would be a real bitch-move. Valve is aware of CSpromod since years, they mentioned it in several interviews and they never had a problem with it.

The CSP devs simply aren't allowed to make money from it as long as they don't get in contact with Valve to bring the mod on Steamworks (afaik in this case Valve would earn money from CSPromod too). The Steam Greenlight project could be a nice way to do so.
2012-08-16 13:20:28
Indeed it would be a bitch move like you said, because valve allowed them to create their own copy mod, but now if csp steps on valve's territory, they won't hesitate to kill them
2012-08-16 19:35:39
it's a bitch move but it's all business whatever to get rid of the competition
2012-08-17 01:19:45
I think that CSP developers became alcoholics:(
2012-08-16 09:16:06
promod will take over. csgo is shit.
2012-08-16 09:17:03
by: Nomad - HLTV.org
#22
The ship has sailed CSP, you had god knows how many years to get this out the door..
2012-08-16 09:18:02
They need sponsors and they need to be paid,i think...
2012-08-16 09:19:19
by: rKj
#26
where is CSP section in this forum?
2012-08-16 09:19:30
you are the man
2012-08-16 09:27:35
+1
2012-08-16 09:44:21
+1, it just smells of desperation like the whole "we will expand the development team", why did they not do this a year ago?
2012-08-16 09:48:56
They already did that...

It's just an further expansion.
You know it's not easy to find good developers working for free....
2012-08-16 13:22:29
No shit sherlock, I was merely stating that this bit of news from them in regards to that is one of desperation!

It just won't succeed and that's the realistic view on this, they can keep trying and plodding along at a very slow rate but without any financial backing they will just be left behind.
2012-08-16 20:32:23
by: teco
#57
-1. CSP > CS:GO
2012-08-16 10:17:42
Better late than never, CSP is the better game.
2012-08-16 10:50:33
just wait and see.
2012-08-16 11:28:19
by: Nomad - HLTV.org
#99
Well why of course, if you say it will be a success surely it will, what do I know..
2012-08-16 11:44:32
i'd tell you if I could. we're just gonna have to wait and see. ;-)


Post edited 2012-08-16 12:07:02
2012-08-16 12:06:18
True that.
"They also stated they aren't afraid of being in direct competition with CS:GO as CSP is built first and foremost for the competitive games"
When I read this I'm a bit sad for them that they don't understand it's quite over.
A proper lobbying to tournaments organizers would probably have done the job.
Once the "product" was good enough, PR should have been the key, rather than techno-geek-developement releases focus :(
But hey, it's a team of devs, not a company, so makes sense :(
2012-08-16 11:44:28
Cs:go madboy detected. :/
2012-08-16 13:22:19
by: Nomad - HLTV.org
#154
It is a matter of being realistic, what exactly does CSP have going for it? It is several years late, has no marketing, and is competing against a brand new CS game that has a ton of marketing..
2012-08-16 13:32:30
c'mon bro. we all know you own this site and cs:go brings in more viewers and subscribers here. you're a business man and i get that, but you can't possibly believe cs:go is a good game after supporting 1.6 for years and years.
2012-08-16 19:22:18
headshot
2012-08-16 23:10:45
Just wait and see.
2012-08-16 13:24:58
by: DRM-
#25
wow
2012-08-16 09:19:25
also standalone version will be there. #nice
2012-08-16 09:20:33
A new shader system!!! Yeeees!! On de_aztec you can't see anyone in dark places,so annoying!!
2012-08-16 09:27:47
Go Go Go CSP

Post edited 2012-08-16 09:30:33
2012-08-16 09:30:06
it's same as 1.6, just different graphics so it won't last too long Imo.
2012-08-16 09:30:34
Lol. He's not helping out, is he? Dividing both communities meaning, there will be less players on either side. You get where I'm coming from?
2012-08-16 09:40:58
I may be in the minority here but personally idgaf about having a huge community. Gameplay w/ a high skill ceiling and a small hardcore userbase > big community + lots of tournaments + mediocre game

Post edited 2012-08-16 09:46:44
2012-08-16 09:46:23
yeah
2012-08-16 09:51:29
where's the like button ?
2012-08-16 09:51:52
by: Nomad - HLTV.org
#48
No big community means no big tournaments..
2012-08-16 09:56:44
Then so be it.
2012-08-16 09:59:10
quality prevails
2012-08-16 10:53:18
+10
2012-08-16 12:32:47
indeed
2012-08-16 12:47:16
yeah, thats why cs:go has a paid tournameny already genius, Quality : CS:GO > ProMod

Nobody wants to play a game with the exact same mechanics than 1.6.. wtf is that dude?, new games bring new things... Learn to adapt, not copy a game with just "new" graphics.

cs:go is the best.
2012-08-16 15:24:23
http://www.wcg.com/renew/wcg2012/officialgames_pc...

Crossfire also has a paid tournament, you still want to compare? Quality: Crossfire>CSP?

It's called marketing mate, that's all, nobody would put a unfinished game in a tournament if it wasn't for marketing.
2012-08-16 18:18:59
Why adapt to a game thats bad and leave a good game that requires skill, precision and strategy behind? I mean, cs go could have made a lot of money copying cs 1.6 with better graphics, but why change it so much if people like the other game, i bought cs go and i regret it you know? i would give my account away but it has dota 2 and cs 1.6 in it.
2012-08-16 22:50:24
This. Like the Quake community <3
2012-08-16 13:26:33
Surprised it took so long for this to be posted, stop slacking off!
2012-08-16 09:41:39
Gogo CSP ! Fuck this shit CS:GO !
2012-08-16 09:44:01
It is 2late
2012-08-16 09:52:44
too late tbh. Should have gotten the majorty of players before release of csgo. A missed chance if you ask me. Then again, they had like 5 years or something to actually release a playable game.
2012-08-16 09:53:40
no chance against csgo, and some believe that this is the future, the new era.. oh god..
2012-08-16 09:54:33
yeah money is the only future
2012-08-16 09:59:04
by: pfx
#52
hope CSP works :)
2012-08-16 10:03:14
lol. It supposed to be released 1 month ago. That's what they said
2012-08-16 10:03:57
too little too late
2012-08-16 10:11:39
hahahahahaha


This game is just gonna divide the current CS community even more, how big can it really get anyway without any marketing? Everyone that thinks this is gonna "save" cs needs to understand that this mod is going nowhere and all the money will be in CS:GO. GO figure
2012-08-16 10:17:28
Your thinking is based on money
but the sad is, money talks, people watch
so you are right =D
2012-08-16 10:47:10
Sorry to dissapoint you folks but promod wont make it :
-not enough support
-takes too long , most people or leagues (ESEA) lost faith to it
-Too similar to 1.6 and personally I'm bored with that game ( played it for ~6years now)

I played CSGO beta , the game right now is quite meh , HOWEVER :
The key for 1.6 players ( and therefore for Lurrpis who keeps bashing it ) is to play this game with a totally new mindset and forget about 1.6.
Many things are different from 1.6 , you will have to relearn , and relearning is actually challenging , fun , and bring back those old memories you had playing counter strike the first time ( remember how you sucked , how you werent able to control ak spray ? )

Sure there are things to be fixed and many people agree on that : sound is terrible , too many shit on maps and why not bring back tapping with a slight improvement of the movement to compensate the tapping , but I think CSGO is going in the right direction , the direction where both source / 1.6 / COD and other fps players are playing together.
As opposed to this , Promod appears to be a step back , and for FPS and even esports in globality , it's obviously not a good thing.
2012-08-16 10:22:21
+1
2012-08-16 10:31:02
He's finally changed his tune!

CSGO is definitely a step in the right direction and it will only get updated for the better as did the original counterstrike to a competitive game as good as CS1.6

People just need to learn the game is taking the classic format of 5v5 bomb defusal but updating it for the modern market. Once released, maps will come out with less clutter, mods will be developed and the game will fly the FPS flag on a global stage!
2012-08-16 10:37:52
Only idiots dont change their opinion ^^
For the good of esports , you have to follow your brain instead of your heart sometimes...
2012-08-16 10:55:46
I'm casual so I will follow my heart =D
2012-08-16 10:58:24
+1
2012-08-16 12:37:28
+1
2012-08-16 18:22:16
by: jlp
#254
"For the good of esports"?

What? gonna support a shittty game so it can have tounaments? for money prizes that i will never compete for? to watch a REALLY BORING game on streams, just because it might be big?

and what are you talking about follow your brain? its a game, you play it because you like it, that's how 1.6 is and thats how it feels with promod
2012-08-16 19:35:27
said everything
2012-08-19 07:22:19
Needless to relearn actually
I played COD, Battlefield for years already
Easy to adapt CS:GO (but cannot be good because I sucks at COD too) but in terms of gameplay, still
1.6 > CSP > COD > CS:GO > CSS
Those bugs in 1.6 are unique features for me, so CSP keep that, those bugs make 1.6 a legend and special from other FPS

I'm talking about the game itself, sponsor, timing, tournaments all are not included to support my statement.
Peace.
2012-08-16 10:39:28
1.6 is a legendary game and I doubt a game as its caliber will be ever released .
We have to be glad we played it , but there is a time we need to stop being selfish and move on.
2012-08-16 10:57:40
OKAY
2012-08-16 11:00:03
That what uve said is sensless...selfish is the word that doesnt belong in this kind of discussion.
2012-08-16 12:38:52
well , I was thinkins as you before , bad game is just bad etc , but its more complicated than that , its not only about the game itself , more things are involed...

And yes we are selfish , by playing promod or 1.6 we only think about our own pleasure and esport isnt going forward by any step.
If CSGO is really the next counter strike , I want it to be as successfull as for example League of legends , and it wont happen if you still play 1.6.

Post edited 2012-08-16 12:58:36
2012-08-16 12:58:12
I also want a game which will make it as big as cs 1.6 did, and which will be simply GOOD. But this is what the problem is....cs:go is a bad game, and u cant force it to be not even close as big as cs 1.6....simply u cant, if there are still people who think with their own brains...if u get what i mean.
2012-08-16 13:00:50
ahahaha playing a game you like is selfish..

Seriously, I don't give a flying fuck about esport's future as long as I can't play a good game.
2012-08-16 13:34:20
Insightful post. Thanks.
2012-08-17 07:44:32
I play the game I like = I'm selfish

So I have to play a game I consider not as good as 1.6 because of "the future of fps in the eSport" once it's on the hype?

"A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is forever bad."

by Shigeru Miyamoto

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Shigeru_Miyamoto#Unso..
2012-08-16 18:30:47
So you think Valve is not going to improve CSGO?
As I said previously , if they change certain things many people ask for , the game can be decent and even good.
2012-08-16 18:37:29
Yes, I think they'll improve the game, but not the way you guys expect. Remember that 1.6 players are not the only playing this game, there are source and casual players. They also have a voice on it
2012-08-16 18:50:13
I disagree. Bad is just bad, there is no good thing in it.
2012-08-16 12:35:35
they aren't afraid of being in direct competition with CS:GO as CSP is built first and foremost for the competitive games

Except most of the pro teams have already committed to CS:GO...
2012-08-16 10:31:47
As far as 1.6 teams go, name one top team that has committed other than NiP (if that even counts). I'll grant you that most NA 1.6 teams are giving CS:GO a go (har) but they haven't exactly quit 1.6 either. I doubt that many teams will move to CSP anytime soon (if ever) but until Na'Vi, fnatic, ESC, Virtus.Pro, etc. commit to CS:GO what you're saying simply isn't true.
2012-08-16 10:40:43
A lot of CSS teams have committed, and although you may not know them they have proper backing. Such as mousesports, mtw, copenhagen wolves to name just a few.
2012-08-16 10:46:54
most people dont care about css pros, esp @ hltv.org
2012-08-16 13:58:58
It's hltv.org, you'll not find many people that care about CSS
2012-08-16 18:32:25
What is CSS ?
Cascading Style Sheets?
2012-08-17 08:02:12
Great :)
2012-08-16 10:32:44
I'll be honest.
I'm all for CS:GO if they weak it a lil' bit and make the servers better, maybe even follow this setup a lil bit and tweak it so it's more competitive http://www.hltv.org/forum/175633-improvements-for-..

Although, I can play both games, fuck, just play CSP if you want a more 1.6 feel and CS:GO if you want to get some cash, whatever gets bigger, I know that I'm gonna dip once i get bigger in the scene and can attend tournaments. :)
2012-08-16 10:44:16
i play csp in this moment and there is no heads hahah ^^ evry noob can kill you :( sounds are ******up ... MEJBI in 1.09 will be beter :>
2012-08-16 10:46:40
2 years 2late.
2012-08-16 10:47:57
This project is joke, who will make something like that for idk 6years?! Cmon everyone lost faith in this, and competing with Valve is even more dumb, even if cs 1.6 and source players would imigrate to CSP, the count would be like -35% less players if we compare to 1.6 now, IN MOST SUCCEFULL CASE IN THE WORLD! So game would be dead in any case.
2012-08-16 10:49:55
so ture...
You don't say




just make me sad
2012-08-16 11:02:22
2153 we soon gonna release 1.0 !
2012-08-16 10:53:05
I Love CSP
2012-08-16 10:54:40
go go go CSP :)
2012-08-16 11:06:39
Last hope for cs
2012-08-16 11:07:40
Too bad they don't have the money, because this is actually a good game. :/
2012-08-16 11:14:18
UR Right
2012-08-16 14:38:27
They could apply for steamworks (Greenlight) , and set price about 10$ , Valve is taking 30% which means 3$, and they can take 7$ per one copy , not bad at all.

Post edited 2012-08-16 17:20:08
2012-08-16 17:19:50
cs:go > csp i try csp and it's worst than cs:go
2012-08-16 11:19:25
If they want to compete with CS:GO (which they won't do anyway), then then need to release this version as version 1, not 0.9. Make a fully stable version with whatever you have so far, and get it in the leagues before CS:GO does.

In all honesty though, as a few people have mentioned before, I'm afraid it's just too late. Perhaps porting the maps over to CS:GO would be nice though :)
2012-08-16 11:21:56
Isn't GO in leagues already? ESL, ESEA etc?
Agree on the porting of maps though, some of the maps are absolutely horrific, though there are a few pros who're actually helping out (i.e Volcano etc)
2012-08-16 15:04:23
Last chance for cs!
2012-08-16 11:34:51
gogogo CSP!!!
2012-08-16 11:41:46
like nomad said ..its too late now

maybe if CSP was released in 2008 , then Valve would of waited a few more years and would of released CS 2 instead of csgo...
2012-08-16 11:46:41
This is not gonna be good..
Why?
Becues Some Players will go to CS:GO, Some players will go to CS:P some players will stay with cs 1.6 and etc, :) when you will see on steam 25k Players Playing CS:GO, 25k Players Playing Cs 1.6, 25k Players playing CS:P. Incase to have 75k Players 1 Game Like Cs 1.6 Haved.

Post edited 2012-08-16 12:04:50
2012-08-16 12:03:24
cool
2012-08-16 12:05:59
Funny how some say that CS:GO > CSP etc when they havent even tried another or none of them.
2012-08-16 12:10:33
and vice versa.
2012-08-16 12:16:44
thats why I wrote "etc" after it.
2012-08-16 12:22:27
ok, just wanted to make a point :)
2012-08-16 12:54:28
Let's just update CS:Promod to 1.6 version fast and we will have a fucking awesome combination CS:Promod 1.6 :P
2012-08-16 12:14:39
They also stated they aren't afraid of being in direct competition with CS:GO as CSP is built first and foremost for the competitive games, whereas CS:GO is directed towards a mass market and gathers its competitive side mainly from the CS brand.

YEAH MY SONS! GO FOR IT LETS ALL FLAME VALVE!
2012-08-16 12:19:46
It looks cool but to me its exactly the same as CS 1.6, so why should I start playing a new game, when it feels the same? If that was released 5 years ago like a new version of CS 1.6 yea I might play it but now I would give a shot to CS:GO more than CS:P. :D

this game l00ks cooooooooool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcjFO1GxQR4

Post edited 2012-08-16 12:23:49
2012-08-16 12:20:17
CS:online 2
Finally know why Korean CS 1.6 Scene dead sudddddenly
and CS:Online 2 > CS:GO

Post edited 2012-08-16 12:47:05
2012-08-16 12:45:44
woah that game looks so cool, i'd way rather play that than csgo. and i never knew it existed!! and lol at all the haters on youtube, "game looks awful" yea ok, because shaders and graphics > gameplay and quality. the models... LOOK SO COOL!

Post edited 2012-08-16 17:28:14
2012-08-16 17:27:44
yeah CS:Online 2 > CS:GO
2012-08-17 08:04:59
Well that was the point. To make an updated game with better graphics that feels just like 1.6. After all the only reason 1.6 tournaments stopped is because of the outdated graphics.
2012-08-21 23:25:43
yes ofc :)
2012-08-22 01:00:55
Great news!

That shader system is a huge improvement.

Can't wait to play 1.09.

Post edited 2012-08-16 12:26:53
2012-08-16 12:26:27
I think most of CS:Source players are happy with CS:GO, so they won't play CSPromod, which means that the game won't go far, because of the community number.
2012-08-16 12:27:08
+10
2012-08-16 12:45:37
did you think about the game being free to play? expect 50k atleast, just like any free to play game, and throw it to all those media people on youtube, you'll get 20,000 flocking to the game in no time.
2012-08-16 17:31:16
rooting for this.

Post edited 2012-08-16 12:45:47
2012-08-16 12:35:37
CSP same shit as CSS.. a little bit better.. but mostly the same
2012-08-16 12:38:02
Sure but CSP is really better than cs:go !
2012-08-16 13:07:00
CS:GO is smth NEW...
2012-08-16 13:31:51
CS:GO has 10000x more in common with CSS than CSS has in common with CSP.

I hate people like you who never played CSP and just keep talking bullshit.
2012-08-16 13:43:13
i played CSP for 1 month... u're stupid as yourself...


CSP = CSS in most of aspects...

and CS:GO not..

Post edited 2012-08-16 19:02:23
2012-08-16 19:01:10
What?!?

Name one similarity of CSP and CSS beside the textures, sounds and weapon-models. I bet you can't. CSP is fully custom coded and the gameplay is almost identical to 1.6's gameplay.

CS:GO uses the same grenade mechanics like CSS, revamped CSS maps, ...
2012-08-16 22:53:23
Maybe he is retard so he think CSP is mostly same as CS:S
2012-08-17 08:07:06
u're retarded with your retarded german friend... CSP IS SHIT...
2012-08-17 17:06:45
Bullshit. CSP is like 1.6 and 1.6 is superior to CSS.
2012-08-16 13:42:02
lol after 1.6 CSP is SHIT...
2012-08-16 19:02:50
which version did you even try? 1.04? that version was more like source.
2012-08-17 00:11:30
1.08... yesterday
2012-08-17 17:06:02
6 years for one game?

and still is a beta ...
2012-08-16 12:46:00
what do you expect from a small dev team and they are part-time for making CSP
2012-08-16 12:54:36
exactly, good point.
2012-08-16 13:01:51
That's why everybody should wait 10 years for CSP. isn't it?

2012-08-16 14:07:58
No, CS:GO Lover =)
2012-08-16 15:52:53
no, that's why people should not complain about the time it's taking to get ready
2012-08-16 18:41:47
this kid must own a big ass company and have many years of experience about producing a quality product with the help of a few staff members.
2012-08-17 00:13:23
haha
2012-08-17 08:08:12
Go CSP!
2012-08-16 12:50:08
can't wait for it :D
2012-08-16 12:58:23
This is what i am talking about. I cant wait to see it!
2012-08-16 13:14:13
awesome
2012-08-16 13:17:41
http://blackaddr.cspromod.com/phongcomp.jpg

incredible update! waited so long for this new shadows...
2012-08-16 13:28:04
looolz, yeah.
Btw that ct looks like an alien :o
2012-08-16 16:52:56
It's smart because the updates will later on come more frequent which will in itself produce advertisement for the game and maybe draw some attention away from CSGO.It's also smart because people will cool down after CSGO has been out for a wihle.
Version 1.10 can be released not so long after 1.09. After 1.10 there can't be many more updates until CSP is released completly I hope.

Post edited 2012-08-16 13:49:18
2012-08-16 13:47:23
I think theyre implementig the new models in 1.09...
:D
2012-08-16 13:52:02
do i need to have CSS in order to play CSP?
2012-08-16 13:54:49
Thank you dude
2012-08-16 13:57:54
The only hope for CSP for make it (IMO) is when valve releases the Source 2012 SDK. From what i have heard, the physics code is directly portable from old version source engine to the newer ones. So, basically we'll have CSGO with CSP physics, which in turn tries to emulate 1.6 physics. Best of all worlds.
2012-08-16 14:14:18
I think CS:GO won't emulate 1.6 physics, if they did, CS:GO will become not realistic&#65292; this will against what Valve has trying to make at their 1st attempt: realistic game
2012-08-17 08:14:18
CSGO will not emulate 1.6 physics but CSP based on CSGO engine will. When the source code for the CSGO-version source engine comes out.
2012-08-17 16:37:35
i lose my appetite and almost puke on my keyboard when i saw csgo model moving, so i'll put a hope in CSP
2012-08-16 14:19:16
+1
2012-08-17 08:14:38
hope CSP
2012-08-16 14:21:25
GO CSP<3
2012-08-16 14:30:23
then we would again have 2 games
promod for 1.6
GO for source players LOl
Same story
Same Life
:D

2012-08-16 14:37:37
lol and everyone knows how that turned out.
2012-08-17 00:15:09
cs:go already bought :D wtf
2012-08-16 14:37:51
guys cs:go is new game and you can't compere it to csp.
If cs:go had another title, that game wouldn't sell at all.

face the fact
2012-08-16 14:57:57
Valve can name it as Call of Duty: Global Offensive and its sales will over COD : Black Ops 2
2012-08-17 08:17:41
GJ GL, I believe in you dudes xD
2012-08-16 15:05:25
I dont understand this shit. If you want to play 1.6, why play csp?
2012-08-16 15:12:19
It's better in so many ways...

- The netcode (+ attack-prediction) is godlike (it's even possible to play with Americans).
- The graphics are on a whole other level (yeah, people keep saying they wouldn't care about graphics, but that's just not true).
- HUD and Scoreboard are improved (you see your team-mates money and you don't need to press TAB to see how many people are still alive).

List goes on ..
2012-08-16 15:22:19
i dont care, 1.6 4ever!!!!
2012-08-16 15:37:02
Dude, I really love 1.6. I'm a CS player since day 1, but after over a decade I'm tired of CS's look. And I'm tired of playing the same maps over and over again. But the gameplay is still awesome. IMO it's an awesome idea to give CS a fresh and modern look while keeping the beloved gameplay, fixing some bugs and improving certain things.

Post edited 2012-08-16 15:44:06
2012-08-16 15:43:20
THEY SHUDA JUST MADE CSP A SERVER-SIDE ADDON FOR 1.6. SOURCE ENGINE IS ASS ASS ASS!!!
2012-08-16 16:18:33
Source engine is shit +1
2012-08-17 08:18:48
Ffs, does no one really understand the reason behind CSP? It's to have 1.6 with better graphics. The reason for this is because the tournaments stop using an out dated game..
2012-08-21 23:30:00
looking forward to csp 1.6 :D
2012-08-16 15:22:22
Nobody believes in promod anymore...
It's a shame, but you had your chance. Years actually...
2012-08-16 15:23:55
csp > cs;go atleast i enjoy to play that game abit but at all cs 1.6 ftw
2012-08-16 15:49:05
60% of CS player or more will be GO players. 100% of source players will be GO players. 40% of cs players will be CSP players, but after time without no tournaments, some will play csgo and others will stop play everything. easy
2012-08-16 16:11:23
No, not even 1% will ever be CSP players. There is no draw to that game. If they couldn't manage 40% of the players before CS:GO comes out, why do you think they'll draw that many after it comes out? Hint: it won't. CS:GO coming out just seals its fate.
2012-08-16 16:17:34
or that.
2012-08-16 22:17:17
CSP? Nobody needs it now. All the hard work, for nothing. :|
2012-08-16 16:11:54
Not afraid of competition?

They couldn't even make a game that successfully drew players to it before CSGO came out. They really think they have a chance after?
2012-08-16 16:15:53
I'm waiting...
2012-08-16 16:26:47
We're as equally frustrated. Just wait it out.
2012-08-16 16:34:47
im surprised that theres so much sympathy for a game that wont have any real chances on the market. csp cant compete against valve. so whats this all about? i dont get it
2012-08-16 16:40:00
maybe because some people just want to have a great game?
2012-08-16 16:44:15
hm, ok. but theres no reason to call csp somthing like "the hope" or even "the rescue" - there will be no "battle" between csp and cs:go. sounds like some guys are guessing for this here..
2012-08-16 16:59:32
Yeah but look at the history. Valve is ruining the franchise by making the game too friendly and lowering the skill ceiling, whilst trying to copy every other recent FPS game.
2012-08-16 18:22:59
dude you are definitely right!
2012-08-17 08:21:28
i tried both games and i have to say that CSP is better so far.at least for me.
2012-08-16 16:51:46
3 words
CSP
2012-08-16 17:04:26
3 letters
made my day :)
2012-08-16 17:12:34
They must fix animations.
2012-08-16 17:21:55
Death animations? They did.
2012-08-19 21:01:27
Animations while running.
2012-08-20 14:48:05
Next news: CSP delayed until next year
2012-08-16 17:47:15
Playing a shit game just because it has support is pathetic.
Im gonna play a game what i like, same like with CS 1.X.
2012-08-16 17:49:14
u know whats really pathetic? supporting a game just because another game destroyed holy cs 1.6
2012-08-16 17:53:38
i dont think that CS:GO is the reason why 1.6 is dying
2012-08-16 17:57:04
not the reason, but it's helping to die faster
2012-08-16 18:46:01
maybe, but there are not major tournaments for 1.6. So 1.6 would end no matter csgo.
2012-08-17 09:45:49
agree
2012-08-17 20:54:24
Nice news, i gonna play CSpromod, not this shitty game called "CS:Go"
2012-08-16 18:07:02
nice :D
2012-08-16 18:22:00
the problem is, will any organization use CSP ?
2012-08-16 18:27:55
Yup!

MyMGN, Excello, IHL, Playstar, BrutalCS are all organisations that have shown interest in CSPromod. This isn't for the proplayers ofcourse, but it's for the other competitive players, people like you and me.

That's how you build a big community, and from there you build the proscene from your solid ground with viewers etc.

The esportindustry is trying to "cheat" CS:GO in to the industry without the community there, which haven't proven to be succesful in earlier attempts (CGS, Source at WCG).

Post edited 2012-08-16 18:33:59
2012-08-16 18:32:06
go all promod then
2012-08-16 20:37:11
Some of the cyber cafes in my country have already installed CSP in their gaming rigs
2012-08-17 08:28:33
If they truly love Counter-Strike why don't they help make CS;GO a better game instead of "competing"?

I think CSP did really well with the 1.6 feelling but realistically they don't stand a chance vs. CS:GO. So why don't they work together instead?
2012-08-16 18:33:50
Because Valve doesn't listen to the 1.6 players only. They have the Sourceplayers and the casual players to think of aswell.

So Valve takes "the best of all the worlds", which unfortunately makes it a shitty game for 1.6 players.

Post edited 2012-08-16 18:35:19
2012-08-16 18:34:55
I play CS:GO and I want it to work out but it just feels like im playing on a console if you know what I mean..

My only hope now is that after they release the game for consoles (xbox, ps3) that they will change A LOT to give it fluent gameplay that it needs to succeed. Otherwise it will be a flop like CSS. I just don't understand how Valve thinks... The game basicly is CSS 2 as it now is.. And we all know CSS failed hard.

Post edited 2012-08-16 18:45:33
2012-08-16 18:44:38
Honestly, I don't think Valve want to work together with CSP. Valve is big and gaining success with CS:GO as it is - unfortunately IMO.
2012-08-16 19:13:12
Yea but CSP is further on some parts which might be interesting for Valve.

There is no point in listening to the source guys because what is source? A game that failed hard but some ppl play it because they are retarded. There is just not one GOOD reason where I can think of why Valve should even listen to what source has to say.

Post edited 2012-08-16 19:20:15
2012-08-16 19:15:46
Exciting.
2012-08-16 19:12:30
CSP <3
CS 1.6 <3
2012-08-16 19:24:37
GO CSP :D
2012-08-16 19:57:35
great news :]
2012-08-16 19:59:00
I want to see the new player models in action!
2012-08-16 20:11:49
ggogogo
2012-08-16 20:39:37
csp is fucking dead deal with it
2012-08-16 21:28:43
far from it.
2012-08-17 00:22:05
najs
2012-08-16 22:53:02
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#278
Either the new 1.09 (and the speedup in development) is a bomb to blast or to blow it all off.

We will have to see.

Post edited 2012-08-17 00:34:05
2012-08-17 00:33:43
They should give plan theyr things based on CS:GO plans.

If theyr game is ready and better release it soon as ready!
2012-08-17 04:32:37
their
2012-08-17 08:30:42
OMFG!
2012-08-17 20:58:14
anyone that believes this game will overshadow CSGO is living in a dream world. CSGO is already being picked up by tournaments and lans on an international level, while they don't give a crap about CSP, 1.6 or Source anymore.

CSGO is the only future Counter-Strike has, so all of you need to accept that and stop beating a dead horse.
2012-08-17 16:32:24
If that was the case. Why are we still working on it?
2012-08-18 15:41:00
no tournament means no future.
although graphic improvement is there,csp is the same to cs1.6
and one thing i really miss is kz jump.
2012-08-18 12:37:35
You miss kreedz? There you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NacmIJW8svM

Post edited 2012-08-18 13:20:14
2012-08-18 13:19:22
this is nice.
but i still wonder if there will be more CSP server than CS1.6 in the future as they dont have financial support and potential.
2012-08-19 06:27:51
nice !!
2012-08-18 18:19:44
by: BeX
#312
CSP will never make it, its sad no support from big names.
2012-08-19 20:48:27
always too late.. damn.. come on BIG COMPANIES!! sponsor them and i will buy your products :D
2012-08-19 21:07:57
This is the future I hope not CS:GO
2012-08-20 03:03:22
YEA
2012-08-21 22:46:26
Just to show you clearly what the new visual system is like:

http://update.cspromod.com/post/637

http://blackaddr.cspromod.com/siphrl.jpg

Cheers.
2012-08-23 23:01:00
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