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CSPromod developer team has announced on CSPromod.com that the awaited 1.09 beta version will be made publicly available soon after CS:GO's launch, which is set to happen on August 21.
They also stated they aren't afraid of being in direct competition with CS:GO as CSP is built first and foremost for the competitive games, whereas CS:GO is directed towards a mass market and gathers its competitive side mainly from the CS brand.
The team also recognized the fact CSP has not been receiving consistent enough updates, but said it will change soon as the developer team is expanding which is expected to speed things up immensely in the future.
Some of the updates coming out in version 1.09 include a new shader system which will greatly improve visibility of the player models in dark areas, introduction of the CSDM gamemode which was previously beta tested, improvements in the sound system and a plethora of bug fixes and minor changes. In total, the changelog is over a 100 lines long.
Finally, the CSP developer team said they have big ambitions and plans for the near future which will be announced shortly. More information about the changes in the developer team will also be made available soon.
- Wait for CS:GO to get released
- People get disappointed at how bad CS:GO is
- Release near finished CSP version, ready for playing on tournaments
Sure they will.
actually it is written "Therefore, we will wait to release 1.09 until after CS:GO has been out for a little while." which imo means that release is postponed indefinitely.
Moreover, i think that valve can stop the csp project if they want. When csp started, valve allowed them to "copy" their own game because it wasn't in competition with CS:S. Now if csp competes with csgo, valve will simply sue them and make the csp project shut down.
And finally, the game is updating slowly (the 1.09 release should have happened last week, and it will arrive after csgo...), pro players aren't interested in it at all, there isn't a lot of people playing it on a daily basis and the release of the full game won't happen before mid-2013
So csp has absolutely no chance to succeed. And that's a FACT
I think CSP is aimed at an old gaming market and this kind of strategy is outdated now. Gamers are kids that love to smash people using only 2 buttons nowadays, it wasn't like that at all before. Still remember those games you were almost crying on because you just couldn't beat that motherfucking endlevel boss ? You don't see that anymore today. People want easy to master gamers today. CS:GO is one of them, CS:S was one of them, CSP is not and it will suffer from it.
and don't tell me CS:GO hasn't shown any progress during this time because it has - probably even more than CSP.
all I said was that jlp's saying "the beta kayes are beeing given since ESWC 2011, if the game still isnt good, it will never be, its a fail project" is void because csp has been in the developing for good 6 years now and is still being hyped to heavens.
That would be a real bitch-move. Valve is aware of CSpromod since years, they mentioned it in several interviews and they never had a problem with it.
The CSP devs simply aren't allowed to make money from it as long as they don't get in contact with Valve to bring the mod on Steamworks (afaik in this case Valve would earn money from CSPromod too). The Steam Greenlight project could be a nice way to do so.
It's just an further expansion.
You know it's not easy to find good developers working for free....
It just won't succeed and that's the realistic view on this, they can keep trying and plodding along at a very slow rate but without any financial backing they will just be left behind.
"They also stated they aren't afraid of being in direct competition with CS:GO as CSP is built first and foremost for the competitive games"
When I read this I'm a bit sad for them that they don't understand it's quite over.
A proper lobbying to tournaments organizers would probably have done the job.
Once the "product" was good enough, PR should have been the key, rather than techno-geek-developement releases focus :(
But hey, it's a team of devs, not a company, so makes sense :(
Post edited 2012-08-16 09:46:44
Nobody wants to play a game with the exact same mechanics than 1.6.. wtf is that dude?, new games bring new things... Learn to adapt, not copy a game with just "new" graphics.
cs:go is the best.
Crossfire also has a paid tournament, you still want to compare? Quality: Crossfire>CSP?
It's called marketing mate, that's all, nobody would put a unfinished game in a tournament if it wasn't for marketing.
This game is just gonna divide the current CS community even more, how big can it really get anyway without any marketing? Everyone that thinks this is gonna "save" cs needs to understand that this mod is going nowhere and all the money will be in CS:GO. GO figure
-not enough support
-takes too long , most people or leagues (ESEA) lost faith to it
-Too similar to 1.6 and personally I'm bored with that game ( played it for ~6years now)
I played CSGO beta , the game right now is quite meh , HOWEVER :
The key for 1.6 players ( and therefore for Lurrpis who keeps bashing it ) is to play this game with a totally new mindset and forget about 1.6.
Many things are different from 1.6 , you will have to relearn , and relearning is actually challenging , fun , and bring back those old memories you had playing counter strike the first time ( remember how you sucked , how you werent able to control ak spray ? )
Sure there are things to be fixed and many people agree on that : sound is terrible , too many shit on maps and why not bring back tapping with a slight improvement of the movement to compensate the tapping , but I think CSGO is going in the right direction , the direction where both source / 1.6 / COD and other fps players are playing together.
As opposed to this , Promod appears to be a step back , and for FPS and even esports in globality , it's obviously not a good thing.
CSGO is definitely a step in the right direction and it will only get updated for the better as did the original counterstrike to a competitive game as good as CS1.6
People just need to learn the game is taking the classic format of 5v5 bomb defusal but updating it for the modern market. Once released, maps will come out with less clutter, mods will be developed and the game will fly the FPS flag on a global stage!
For the good of esports , you have to follow your brain instead of your heart sometimes...
What? gonna support a shittty game so it can have tounaments? for money prizes that i will never compete for? to watch a REALLY BORING game on streams, just because it might be big?
and what are you talking about follow your brain? its a game, you play it because you like it, that's how 1.6 is and thats how it feels with promod
I played COD, Battlefield for years already
Easy to adapt CS:GO (but cannot be good because I sucks at COD too) but in terms of gameplay, still
1.6 > CSP > COD > CS:GO > CSS
Those bugs in 1.6 are unique features for me, so CSP keep that, those bugs make 1.6 a legend and special from other FPS
I'm talking about the game itself, sponsor, timing, tournaments all are not included to support my statement.
We have to be glad we played it , but there is a time we need to stop being selfish and move on.
And yes we are selfish , by playing promod or 1.6 we only think about our own pleasure and esport isnt going forward by any step.
If CSGO is really the next counter strike , I want it to be as successfull as for example League of legends , and it wont happen if you still play 1.6.
Post edited 2012-08-16 12:58:36
Seriously, I don't give a flying fuck about esport's future as long as I can't play a good game.
So I have to play a game I consider not as good as 1.6 because of "the future of fps in the eSport" once it's on the hype?
"A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is forever bad."
by Shigeru Miyamoto
As I said previously , if they change certain things many people ask for , the game can be decent and even good.
Except most of the pro teams have already committed to CS:GO...
I'm all for CS:GO if they weak it a lil' bit and make the servers better, maybe even follow this setup a lil bit and tweak it so it's more competitive http://www.hltv.org/forum/175633-improvements-for-..
Although, I can play both games, fuck, just play CSP if you want a more 1.6 feel and CS:GO if you want to get some cash, whatever gets bigger, I know that I'm gonna dip once i get bigger in the scene and can attend tournaments. :)
In all honesty though, as a few people have mentioned before, I'm afraid it's just too late. Perhaps porting the maps over to CS:GO would be nice though :)
maybe if CSP was released in 2008 , then Valve would of waited a few more years and would of released CS 2 instead of csgo...
Becues Some Players will go to CS:GO, Some players will go to CS:P some players will stay with cs 1.6 and etc, :) when you will see on steam 25k Players Playing CS:GO, 25k Players Playing Cs 1.6, 25k Players playing CS:P. Incase to have 75k Players 1 Game Like Cs 1.6 Haved.
Post edited 2012-08-16 12:04:50
YEAH MY SONS! GO FOR IT LETS ALL FLAME VALVE!
this game l00ks cooooooooool
Post edited 2012-08-16 12:23:49
Finally know why Korean CS 1.6 Scene dead sudddddenly
and CS:Online 2 > CS:GO
Post edited 2012-08-16 12:47:05
Post edited 2012-08-16 17:28:14
That shader system is a huge improvement.
Can't wait to play 1.09.
Post edited 2012-08-16 12:26:53
I hate people like you who never played CSP and just keep talking bullshit.
CSP = CSS in most of aspects...
and CS:GO not..
Post edited 2012-08-16 19:02:23
Name one similarity of CSP and CSS beside the textures, sounds and weapon-models. I bet you can't. CSP is fully custom coded and the gameplay is almost identical to 1.6's gameplay.
CS:GO uses the same grenade mechanics like CSS, revamped CSS maps, ...
and still is a beta ...
incredible update! waited so long for this new shadows...
Version 1.10 can be released not so long after 1.09. After 1.10 there can't be many more updates until CSP is released completly I hope.
Post edited 2012-08-16 13:49:18
promod for 1.6
GO for source players LOl
If cs:go had another title, that game wouldn't sell at all.
face the fact
- The netcode (+ attack-prediction) is godlike (it's even possible to play with Americans).
- The graphics are on a whole other level (yeah, people keep saying they wouldn't care about graphics, but that's just not true).
- HUD and Scoreboard are improved (you see your team-mates money and you don't need to press TAB to see how many people are still alive).
List goes on ..
Post edited 2012-08-16 15:44:06
It's a shame, but you had your chance. Years actually...
They couldn't even make a game that successfully drew players to it before CSGO came out. They really think they have a chance after?
Im gonna play a game what i like, same like with CS 1.X.
MyMGN, Excello, IHL, Playstar, BrutalCS are all organisations that have shown interest in CSPromod. This isn't for the proplayers ofcourse, but it's for the other competitive players, people like you and me.
That's how you build a big community, and from there you build the proscene from your solid ground with viewers etc.
The esportindustry is trying to "cheat" CS:GO in to the industry without the community there, which haven't proven to be succesful in earlier attempts (CGS, Source at WCG).
Post edited 2012-08-16 18:33:59
I think CSP did really well with the 1.6 feelling but realistically they don't stand a chance vs. CS:GO. So why don't they work together instead?
So Valve takes "the best of all the worlds", which unfortunately makes it a shitty game for 1.6 players.
Post edited 2012-08-16 18:35:19
My only hope now is that after they release the game for consoles (xbox, ps3) that they will change A LOT to give it fluent gameplay that it needs to succeed. Otherwise it will be a flop like CSS. I just don't understand how Valve thinks... The game basicly is CSS 2 as it now is.. And we all know CSS failed hard.
Post edited 2012-08-16 18:45:33
There is no point in listening to the source guys because what is source? A game that failed hard but some ppl play it because they are retarded. There is just not one GOOD reason where I can think of why Valve should even listen to what source has to say.
Post edited 2012-08-16 19:20:15
We will have to see.
Post edited 2012-08-17 00:34:05
If theyr game is ready and better release it soon as ready!
CSGO is the only future Counter-Strike has, so all of you need to accept that and stop beating a dead horse.
although graphic improvement is there,csp is the same to cs1.6
and one thing i really miss is kz jump.
Post edited 2012-08-18 13:20:14