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Video: HeatoN vs HLO
Our 94th "Frags from the past" video takes you back to 2004, where Emil "HeatoN" Christensen aces his country-men from HighLand Online.
While the Terrorists breached the ramp defence by killing fisker, Christensen found himself in the lower bombsite to try and stop any attempt of planting there. He did his job perfectly as he wiped out four HLO players near ramps, and managed to score the ace by killing the last enemy under catwalk.
Check it out below...
Highlight info
| Player: | Emil "HeatoN" Christensen |
| Match: | SK Gaming vs HighLand Online |
| Final result(MR12): | 13:9 (8:4; 5:5) |
| Match date: | 16.05.2004 |
| Map: | de_nuke |
| Event: | ESWC Swedish Qualifier |
| Stage: | Group stage |
| Weapon: | AK-47 |
| Action situation: | Score tied 3:3 |
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best AK of CS history
2012-10-18 13:38:47
best joke of CS history
2012-10-18 14:06:10
+1!
2012-10-18 14:39:27
+1
2012-10-18 15:03:20
wait what joke of cs history? when cs was the main gaming title n playd at every net cafe at the time 2003-2004?
kid pls stfu heaton potti spawn fisker etc was at the top when the game was hot.
kid pls stfu heaton potti spawn fisker etc was at the top when the game was hot.
2012-10-18 16:18:05
when the game was on more louer level than now, u are wrong
2012-10-18 16:21:28
ye but they are pioneer, they 'invented' the high skill on cs.
2012-10-18 18:15:40
So Maradona/any other good oldschool football player actually sucked? You logic is pretty much messed up.
2012-10-18 18:58:16
when they were gold, you were a fucking shit.
2012-10-20 00:59:14
ahahaha xD again funny peoples :D nice to meet u clown :D circuit waiting for u:D:D:D buahahaha no experienced kids everywhere trying to be smart XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Post edited 2012-10-20 02:46:43
Post edited 2012-10-20 02:46:43
2012-10-20 02:45:32
i bet you started cs a few years ago, noob
2012-10-18 23:31:23
+1
2012-10-19 18:04:42
Heh funny how all The New Kids From The Block think he was so amazing while not one pro or nonpro from that period think he was :)
2012-10-18 14:14:22
you're foolish if you think pros from that era didnt respect him. he was easily one of the best players
2012-10-18 14:18:23
He was good but nowhere near the best even at that time and nowadays kids think of him as a god of cs :D Hilarious
2012-10-18 14:24:08
+1
2012-10-18 14:27:15
rofl are you kidding me? he was clearly the best in the world in 2000-2003 with Ksharp.
You guys hate him because of cs go, but talk to anybody who have a clue about cs know that.
You guys hate him because of cs go, but talk to anybody who have a clue about cs know that.
2012-10-18 15:42:57
+1
2012-10-18 17:57:10
+1
2012-10-18 20:50:42
+1!
2012-10-18 15:44:34
who was the best in that time then?
2012-10-18 20:47:18
surely u know nothing about Former NIP,SK.swe back then,they won more title than any1 in the history,kids stop talking when you dont even know the history of the CS,they won everything they can get and they were unbeatable in 2002-2003.
Kids should do download some demo before they talk.
Have you ever hear of these names:hyb,medion,kush,bengan?
Do you know old school clans like,eoL,GoL,Dop,RDW?
you kids were still wetting your pants when they won their 1st title.
kids should shut up and read some book before they come here lol.
Kids should do download some demo before they talk.
Have you ever hear of these names:hyb,medion,kush,bengan?
Do you know old school clans like,eoL,GoL,Dop,RDW?
you kids were still wetting your pants when they won their 1st title.
kids should shut up and read some book before they come here lol.
2012-10-19 01:28:43
kush pro gamer!
2012-10-19 11:31:03
not even close...
2012-10-18 14:16:04
maybe, in 2004 when no one knows how to play CS....
you cant compare him with f0rest, get_rigth, neo, etc..... im not a fan boy but i think the players from 2008 to 2012 are way better then he was.
you cant compare him with f0rest, get_rigth, neo, etc..... im not a fan boy but i think the players from 2008 to 2012 are way better then he was.
2012-10-18 14:40:26
Hi, you're a bit of an idiot arent you? Players from 2008 had been playing the game for a maximum of 9 years while the players of 2004 had been playing for a maximum of 5 years. Also the players of 2008 have learnt a lot of tricks and setups from the players of 2004.
You're obviously a newbie who probably started playing a few years ago so please dont talk about things you have no idea about.
You're obviously a newbie who probably started playing a few years ago so please dont talk about things you have no idea about.
2012-10-19 12:51:01
offensive coments like yours dont even deserve a reply, but wath ever. I just sayed wath i think, if you cant say your opinion without insulting and trashtalking to other people then, my freind, you have isues
2012-10-19 12:59:58
sorry but there was just so much stupidity about your comment i felt compelled to reply.
2012-10-19 13:20:30
In his time...
2012-10-18 14:48:10
the sickest ak i've ever seen was f0rest in his prime with his signature one bullets
2012-10-18 15:04:44
The most important one for Counter-Strike's history, I'd say.
Ppls back then who barely didnt have slighest clue about the game, but knew/saw/heard something about this player named HeatoN.
Certainly he wasnt among the most madskilled /rawskilled 'individualists' like potti, etc, but for sure one of the best in CS earliest years to master AK recoil with deadly spraycontrol.
Ppls back then who barely didnt have slighest clue about the game, but knew/saw/heard something about this player named HeatoN.
Certainly he wasnt among the most madskilled /rawskilled 'individualists' like potti, etc, but for sure one of the best in CS earliest years to master AK recoil with deadly spraycontrol.
2012-10-18 15:32:16
Nowhere near. Clearly you weren't there
2012-10-18 15:41:57
rofl you clearly were not there
him and Ksharp was the best in 2000-2003
him and Ksharp was the best in 2000-2003
2012-10-18 15:52:20
I was there both watching and playing. I played against NiP in CPL qualifiers, we had me, eclipsed, chro, GuardiaN and BloodR. Have also played tons of times against him before you kids went all Bieber with him.
In 2000-2003 was the leap in cs, seeing 1.0 and 1.3. The best in 2000-2001 is higly questionable cause the scene was not that big. Back in 2000 Bullseye and Ksharp got some name in Europe, but back then it was all about zet0r, biggs, finl, schwain and YaK who destroyed the swedes. It was around 2002 when the swedes started taking over.
In 2000-2003 was the leap in cs, seeing 1.0 and 1.3. The best in 2000-2001 is higly questionable cause the scene was not that big. Back in 2000 Bullseye and Ksharp got some name in Europe, but back then it was all about zet0r, biggs, finl, schwain and YaK who destroyed the swedes. It was around 2002 when the swedes started taking over.
2012-10-18 16:26:56
Actually this guy is more or less correct on most of the players listed.
Especially schwain
Especially schwain
2012-10-18 16:41:35
What makes you think we are 10, 15 or 20 years, you have mental illness problems or something ? you know nothing bout our age nor how much we spectated HeatoN and rest of the scene back then.
Did i claim he was among the very best when you define overall raw skills (?) For sure his talents were not like potti's level, for example, HeatoN had other qualities wich let him win more than what finlands CS together ever achieved.
Theres no way, NO WAY in heaven, earth or hell, for that matter a CS player ment more than HeatoN as a whole for swedish Counter-Strike looking back at it. And we all know wich country, by far, is the greatest CS nation ever, consequantly ment most for the competitive CS-scene as an eSport's milestonegame that it is.
Post edited 2012-10-18 16:47:05
Did i claim he was among the very best when you define overall raw skills (?) For sure his talents were not like potti's level, for example, HeatoN had other qualities wich let him win more than what finlands CS together ever achieved.
Theres no way, NO WAY in heaven, earth or hell, for that matter a CS player ment more than HeatoN as a whole for swedish Counter-Strike looking back at it. And we all know wich country, by far, is the greatest CS nation ever, consequantly ment most for the competitive CS-scene as an eSport's milestonegame that it is.
Post edited 2012-10-18 16:47:05
2012-10-18 16:45:30
I totally get your point.
BUT
When you said: "The most important one for Counter-Strike's history, I'd say." You said wrong.
HeatoN made and keeps making shitloads of money for nice performance. In no way was he ever the best, or even near that, but also nowhere near being the player who brought Sweden to the map.
I was there kid. I played against Nordic Division, Matrix, EYE and NiP. Back then no one gave a fuck how the caller did, how the "sneaker" did or how the midman did. HeatoN had good aim and he was given the frags while the rest of the team got toally ignored and also worked as hell but never got noticed
EDIT: Y U so fanboi??
Post edited 2012-10-18 17:47:35
BUT
When you said: "The most important one for Counter-Strike's history, I'd say." You said wrong.
HeatoN made and keeps making shitloads of money for nice performance. In no way was he ever the best, or even near that, but also nowhere near being the player who brought Sweden to the map.
I was there kid. I played against Nordic Division, Matrix, EYE and NiP. Back then no one gave a fuck how the caller did, how the "sneaker" did or how the midman did. HeatoN had good aim and he was given the frags while the rest of the team got toally ignored and also worked as hell but never got noticed
EDIT: Y U so fanboi??
Post edited 2012-10-18 17:47:35
2012-10-18 17:43:52
You are clearly missunderstanding my point kid. Take f0rest for example, Sweden's overall alltime greatest player, but you have to differ it from who really is the most important person - the most important pioneer in Sweden,his personality, how the general talk (in schools, LANs, etc etc) rly went back then in Sweden - the hype around HeatoN were huge, he brought many many curious youngsters into the game, for sure. Since you are a finnish sanuafag there's no way you posses such knowledge nor wanna face it. Without Sweden this game wouldnt reach up to its legendary eSport status, far from it and HeatoN ment most for Swedish Counter-Strike. You are clearly to dumb figure out the connection.
2012-10-18 18:03:47
What the fuck are you saying? :D :D
EDIT: back when HeatoN was starting to get name Sweden was already huge and no one knew HeatoN. When he started to get fame he was this shy nerd who no one knew about. And I mean shy, he was _the nerd_ back then.
You have no idea what you're talking about so just leave it. You failed kid, suck it up
Post edited 2012-10-18 18:24:12
EDIT: back when HeatoN was starting to get name Sweden was already huge and no one knew HeatoN. When he started to get fame he was this shy nerd who no one knew about. And I mean shy, he was _the nerd_ back then.
You have no idea what you're talking about so just leave it. You failed kid, suck it up
Post edited 2012-10-18 18:24:12
2012-10-18 18:20:04
CS in Sweden wasnt THAT huge until HeatoN-hype started get going along with the Legendary eco-ace vs 4kings at aztec, back in CPL, 2001. No doubts HeatoN as a whole package brought the most new blood / pool of players into the Counter-Strike title. But your minds are full of finnish inferiority problems towards the prime dominating CS-nation. So your "knowledge" in this particular case are a majority of empty words and twisted hate.
now suck it up, saunafag.
now suck it up, saunafag.
2012-10-18 18:43:01
WHAT??? :D
2012-10-18 19:20:27
dont even listen to it the kid has no idea what he's talking about.
2012-10-19 03:32:54
tbh whatever you said is clearly not true OK zet0r and biggs and even noose where great players but not even close to heatoN in general, did they achieve anything like him? No Im totally not a HeatoN fan never was but he did manage to win alot and thats where its all bout in the end if you talk bout "esports" and tbh not even one team of Finland did achieve alot, they where good but not the best ok OCRAN, Ewoks, ROCCAT, Coercere or even [z] where good teams but not even close to SK/NiP back in the days so pls
2012-10-19 07:39:00
To be honest Finland were good really early on but Sweden began to produce some big teams that really started Sweden's dominance in the game.
As for HeatoN, anyone around the old days would remember there was SO much hype after NiP 2001 on him and when they went to SK in 2002 everyone was calling HeatoN the best player in the world. I actually remember watching some LAN recorded demo's of CPL Dallas that had DoP guys, 3Dbullseye, SK|NIRee (6th man) and so many other players at the event commenting in all the matches and the topic of HeatoN came up a few times in his matches and how much hype there was on him and how he wasnt living up to the hype. I actually think the pressure got to him at that event because EVERYONE had eyes on him and was expecting so much and were disappointed at least at CPL Dallas.
Its hard to say where he was ranked in the thick of things because there was no individual stats for players back then but he was obviously a really strong player because every team he was on enjoyed so much success over the years.
As for HeatoN, anyone around the old days would remember there was SO much hype after NiP 2001 on him and when they went to SK in 2002 everyone was calling HeatoN the best player in the world. I actually remember watching some LAN recorded demo's of CPL Dallas that had DoP guys, 3Dbullseye, SK|NIRee (6th man) and so many other players at the event commenting in all the matches and the topic of HeatoN came up a few times in his matches and how much hype there was on him and how he wasnt living up to the hype. I actually think the pressure got to him at that event because EVERYONE had eyes on him and was expecting so much and were disappointed at least at CPL Dallas.
Its hard to say where he was ranked in the thick of things because there was no individual stats for players back then but he was obviously a really strong player because every team he was on enjoyed so much success over the years.
2012-10-19 13:13:02
Arguing with someone who actually were _there_ and played against these guys = retarded. You'd probably even argue about poker with shaguar and come up with something like "Isildur1 is by far the best player in the world, Your canadian twisted minds just cant accept it and so for your hating on us, the best hockey country in the world" lolol , btw 6-1 hannu
2012-10-19 15:10:55
so butthurt...
2012-10-20 10:34:54
very creative reply. firstly, i couldnt care less about this "best player in the world" subject. secondly, "the best hockey country in the world". isnt that basically the thoughts of every other swede? so yeah i think you should check on your butthurt theory, it missed by a mile.
2012-10-20 20:13:32
rofl you must be kidding me,do you even remember how swe,and Ger raped other nations in CB national cups,do you remember how SK.swe beat orc.fi 10-2 at t side in aztec ,lol do you remember how scream 1 on 5 with an ak on d2 cat against fin's national team and total score is 13-2,in d2.Let me tell you the lineup is :Heaton,Sream,swift,brunk,and fisker against biggs,gizmo,noose, and digital.Im not against fin pros but at that time they beat every1 ,and not only beating they raped every team when they were at their best.The only 3 teams can put a fight against them is eoL,GoL,and 3D with steel and kim on the team.
Post edited 2012-10-19 01:38:30
Post edited 2012-10-19 01:38:30
2012-10-19 01:36:07
just ton of bullshit in your post.
2012-10-18 15:44:20
zneel is laughing at you so hard
2012-10-18 16:54:12
method had a wayyyy better AK than Heaton, and so did a lot of other players over the years
but Heaton was still a beast!
but Heaton was still a beast!
2012-10-19 07:43:11
shoot one two treee bullets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuOZ1_-4vdg&fea.. 1.40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuOZ1_-4vdg&fea.. 1.40
2012-10-18 13:46:43
The year 2004, HeatoN, rock music, gotfrag.com still alive... Ah, great times when I was still interested in 1.6.
2012-10-18 13:47:00
yep
2012-10-18 13:55:31
2004 i was still having fun like hell @ lan with friends :(
2012-10-18 15:11:05
Awesome cams dude as always//
2012-10-18 13:47:28
i thought it is a cs:go clip
2012-10-18 13:57:42
theres no other clips of heaton? seen this edited by million others
2012-10-18 14:23:42
I didn't know this ace until fragbite posted it, and this is as POV demo so it's 10x better
2012-10-18 14:25:37
heaton was so good, fuckin nubs dont know shit
2012-10-18 14:34:26
Says userid 391773. lol.
2012-10-18 18:05:31
UserID at hltv.org says a lot does it? He sure was one of the best back then.
2012-10-18 22:46:23
The good thing about HLTV.org was that you never needed to be a member to download demos. I think when gotfrag died a lot of people finally signed up just so they could still post random shit.
2012-10-19 13:17:42
gj athid
2012-10-18 14:48:16
Sick action by the legend!
2012-10-18 14:58:44
athid sick edit asusual
2012-10-18 15:01:30
http://bit.ly/thanks_tomhanks
2012-10-18 16:03:29
happy b-day dawggg!
2012-10-19 18:09:59
<3
2012-10-18 15:34:48
duck and spray not sick at all, but yes its the oldschool style
Post edited 2012-10-18 15:35:28
Post edited 2012-10-18 15:35:28
2012-10-18 15:35:02
I liked HeatoN till he hated on cArn when casting :(
2012-10-18 15:41:46
Same here. Except I didn't really care from him before, but after bashing cArn I started to mildly hate him :)
2012-10-18 17:00:08
Could you share the story with me? Enlightenment required.
2012-10-19 11:26:36
He was just saying that cArn is incredibly bad and can't ever kill anyone. Everyone knows cArn wasn't a mad fragger but HeatoN was making him sound like a pub noob lol.
2012-10-19 11:29:47
yeah HeatoN was incredibly stupid that day, its like Dennis Rodman calling Lebron/Kobe a baddie.
Post edited 2012-10-19 18:04:15
Post edited 2012-10-19 18:04:15
2012-10-19 18:03:39
at this time, 90% of you guys were playing cs_estate at home and talked with hostages so don't drop shits about HeatoN, he's everlasting cs 1.6 legend
2012-10-18 15:58:36
You all hate him because he focuses now on CS:GO. Too bad SpawN didn't do the same as him, you would hate him too.
Most ignorant/hypocrite Community in Ego-Shooter history or eSports in general, even the SC2 one is better, at least they don't judge Legends bad if they choose eSports as a job. (HeatoN clearly had to go for the money, cause it was his money bringer[No, no, you guys don't like money, I see.]. SpawN did the same but can't understand why he isn't so much hated, but maybe cause he didn't say "CS:GO will be bigger/better" - again ignorant Community)
Most ignorant/hypocrite Community in Ego-Shooter history or eSports in general, even the SC2 one is better, at least they don't judge Legends bad if they choose eSports as a job. (HeatoN clearly had to go for the money, cause it was his money bringer[No, no, you guys don't like money, I see.]. SpawN did the same but can't understand why he isn't so much hated, but maybe cause he didn't say "CS:GO will be bigger/better" - again ignorant Community)
2012-10-18 16:59:49
nice , old times
2012-10-18 17:19:30
wtf!? auto aim at enemies? watch more carefully,it seemed like this
2012-10-18 18:53:49
ctrl + m1 = heaton
2012-10-18 19:03:13
+1453
2012-10-19 01:42:36
so many haters. its 2004, stop comparing it with todays players. how good do you think karrigan, friis, f0rest, get_right, neo, markeloff, edward was in 2004? this good? not really
2012-10-18 19:40:27
is there any possible topic that can't start a heated flamefest between you retards?
i mean ...every single topic on this site is full of fighting ....regardless of subject.
this community really doesn't deserve this game .
i mean ...every single topic on this site is full of fighting ....regardless of subject.
this community really doesn't deserve this game .
2012-10-18 19:57:46
so fucking true, couldn't put it better...
but mostly polaks are retards, they should all get a ban
but mostly polaks are retards, they should all get a ban
2012-10-18 21:10:02
noobs come and comment cuz HeatoN is duck gammer bla bla old timers don't have skills bla bla but his aim on this times and control of ak recoil is one of the beast ever i seen in cs history, today not many players can equal to him that's the fact
2012-10-18 20:26:36
Stop saying bullshit.. he isn't overrated, ok I'm agree that he's a annoying guy in real life but he was a monster back in the days, good video good memories ;)
2012-10-18 20:55:34
"that he's a annoying guy in real life"
so you met him irl? probably not, you joke.
so you met him irl? probably not, you joke.
2012-10-18 21:11:41
no I don't, I just said that because he makes stupid comments sometimes jEeZ
Post edited 2012-10-18 21:34:56
Post edited 2012-10-18 21:34:56
2012-10-18 21:34:31
Hello, IRL means IN REAL LIFE, therefor it's meaningsless how he acts in the interwebz. I'm sure he's a kind person IRL, because all his teammates and former CS1.6 pros never said bad words about him. Just the community, but let's not begin a futile topic
2012-10-18 21:56:47
I remember fisker was angry with HeatoN when he kicked him in 2005 :p
2012-10-21 23:13:49
Amazing edit!
2012-10-18 21:04:40
OMG!! ace with 100 (hp,vesthelm) so sick! :)
2012-10-18 21:27:13
hahaha
2012-10-19 18:01:55
:) ah Old-school, but anyway duck ace :) cmon
2012-10-18 21:56:26
Stop comparing, HeatoN was a beast in his times. nuff' said.
2012-10-18 23:10:11
sit and shot.like a lame :)
2012-10-19 00:40:56
why are ppl always comparing then and now? this is what happens when a game is played to death over 12 years.
anyone from the old school is quite capable of becoming a current top 10 player if they really desired to. but they've been there, and moved on.
good for them.
anyone from the old school is quite capable of becoming a current top 10 player if they really desired to. but they've been there, and moved on.
good for them.
2012-10-19 02:46:31
best headsprays in cs history
2012-10-19 09:51:00
oh c'mon...
2012-10-19 12:14:09
lol, no way.
2012-10-19 18:01:35
Saying that HeatoN wasn't an important CS-icon is like saying oxygen isn't necessary for humanity's survival... He wasn't the best aimer or reflexkid in the world, but his game understanding and riflecontrol were DEFINETLY amongst the top.
That being said... The team under his leadership is the first and only team to go an entire CPL-year undefeated. Hate as much as you want =)
That being said... The team under his leadership is the first and only team to go an entire CPL-year undefeated. Hate as much as you want =)
2012-10-19 12:33:18
[Plus One]
2012-10-19 13:44:10
Red' was prety good back then!
2012-10-19 17:24:36
pretty good back then, below average compared to today's standards.
overrated? damn yes.
Post edited 2012-10-19 18:05:01
overrated? damn yes.
Post edited 2012-10-19 18:05:01
2012-10-19 18:00:45
"Pretty good"
Lol, you're playing with the words like the clown in the circus with the little kids.
Pretty good is to compete in the higher level of CS back then. HeatoN won 13 CPL titles you fucking kind of a moron.
Lol, you're playing with the words like the clown in the circus with the little kids.
Pretty good is to compete in the higher level of CS back then. HeatoN won 13 CPL titles you fucking kind of a moron.
2012-10-19 19:41:05
13 CPL titles don't make him the best player, he played alongside Potti and the best players in the world for most of his career, the skill level was uberlow back then thats why his teams didn't have as much competition.
Comparing HeatoN/Potti's skills to the one of any top player post 2006 (including cArn, ave and other underated players) is like comparing Pele to Messi/CR7, Pele had much easier opponents, most of them couldn't be considered athetic neither professional today therefore his domination. Messi and CR7 play against top tier athletes with strict workout rutines and prioritizing dedication to their jobs.
Number of achievements of HeatoN against Pentagram or Fnatic 2006: 0
Post edited 2012-10-19 19:57:25
Comparing HeatoN/Potti's skills to the one of any top player post 2006 (including cArn, ave and other underated players) is like comparing Pele to Messi/CR7, Pele had much easier opponents, most of them couldn't be considered athetic neither professional today therefore his domination. Messi and CR7 play against top tier athletes with strict workout rutines and prioritizing dedication to their jobs.
Number of achievements of HeatoN against Pentagram or Fnatic 2006: 0
Post edited 2012-10-19 19:57:25
2012-10-19 19:51:55
"is like comparing Pele to Messi/CR7, Pele had much easier opponents, most of them couldn't be considered athetic neither professional today therefore his domination."
Oh really?
At this point of time Pele dominated because he was just brilliant and noone else could have the same skills as him. If the opponents were so weak, why was only Pele the dominating one? Yes, because he was talented as fuck like f0rest or markeloff in CS1.6
Also if HeatoN was so bad as you say, why he didn't got kicked by the org then? Because a team consists out of 5 players and when 1 player is doing bad all the time he gets punished, but their teamwork was perfect.
And the famous smoke trick against the almighty elemeNt in the CPL Final(!), who did that? HeatoN. And btw: it was the deciderround I don't think a normal player could perform so well in this situation as HeatoN did. He was outstanding admit it.
Post edited 2012-10-19 20:30:09
Oh really?
At this point of time Pele dominated because he was just brilliant and noone else could have the same skills as him. If the opponents were so weak, why was only Pele the dominating one? Yes, because he was talented as fuck like f0rest or markeloff in CS1.6
Also if HeatoN was so bad as you say, why he didn't got kicked by the org then? Because a team consists out of 5 players and when 1 player is doing bad all the time he gets punished, but their teamwork was perfect.
And the famous smoke trick against the almighty elemeNt in the CPL Final(!), who did that? HeatoN. And btw: it was the deciderround I don't think a normal player could perform so well in this situation as HeatoN did. He was outstanding admit it.
Post edited 2012-10-19 20:30:09
2012-10-19 20:25:08
Pele wasn't the only one dominating though, he was the most dominant in the World Cups.
I'm not saying HeatoN was BAD, I'm saying HeatoN's peak is low for _TODAY's standards_. As I said, he was pretty good back then, I only wouldn't dare to compare him to post 2006 stars like f0rest, Neo, markeloff, etc. He was a top player back then specially in his early years (till 2004) but CS has evolved a lot since he last played competitively.
Post edited 2012-10-19 22:08:38
I'm not saying HeatoN was BAD, I'm saying HeatoN's peak is low for _TODAY's standards_. As I said, he was pretty good back then, I only wouldn't dare to compare him to post 2006 stars like f0rest, Neo, markeloff, etc. He was a top player back then specially in his early years (till 2004) but CS has evolved a lot since he last played competitively.
Post edited 2012-10-19 22:08:38
2012-10-19 22:06:48
It doesn't change the fact that he was still good playing alongside players like Potti. The competition from 2002 till 2005 was huge and that was the time for players to prove them selfs in tournaments like CPL and so on, in which HeatoN did
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2012-10-19 22:17:47
lol, the competence wasn't huge when HeatoN was one of the best players, only SK/NiP and other clans with players lurking around SK/NiP (i.e. eoL) were winning serious cash in europe. The same happened in America where X3/Team3D had it easy until compLexity came in back in 2004.
Looking at 2003's SK domination, how can anyone say that 'the competence was huge'? it wasn't, only a few clans with the same players jumping from one team to another had it all for themselves.
maybe the hype was huge but the competence wasn't.
Post edited 2012-10-19 22:33:47
Looking at 2003's SK domination, how can anyone say that 'the competence was huge'? it wasn't, only a few clans with the same players jumping from one team to another had it all for themselves.
maybe the hype was huge but the competence wasn't.
Post edited 2012-10-19 22:33:47
2012-10-19 22:31:17
Really? Back then players had to learn everything on they're own, not like now when you can watch some demos and you have an anti strat for the game. There were also teams like NoA if you remember and a whole lot more. 3D especially when they were X3 had a lot of competition from teams like DoP and 1st wave with shaGuar and co in America. And coL didn't made an impact to them because without European achievements, they didn't do nothing in American scene. And its funny how your saying that back then it was only a few teams taht could play against SK if from 2008 there weren't any teams to play against Na'vi (which were like SK in 2003)
Post edited 2012-10-19 22:44:43
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2012-10-19 22:43:46
NaVi was founded in early 2010, they dominated that year and that year only and they did have great competition, they had to go through teams that somehow dominated the past years, PGS/MYM.pl 2006-2007, fnatic 2009, mTw 2008
and I'm pretty sure teams like 3D, SK, NiP and others did watch lots of demos, in fact I remember interviews where most of these teams confirmed watching demos of their rivals.
Post edited 2012-10-20 00:04:40
and I'm pretty sure teams like 3D, SK, NiP and others did watch lots of demos, in fact I remember interviews where most of these teams confirmed watching demos of their rivals.
Post edited 2012-10-20 00:04:40
2012-10-20 00:03:25
My bad. They were founded in late 2009 but who cares. And those teams didn't do anything to Na'Vi because of the style they played. SK had the same thing going on in 2003. I'm not going to make a big discussion out of it because i prefer old school and you obviously not. But like I said the time to prove you're good at counter strike was from 2002 to 2005 and early 2006
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2012-10-20 00:21:03
SK 2003 was a mix of the most successful ex-SK/NiP players plus GoL's elemeNt, they dominated because no one was near them in skill and experience and the game was young, literally 0 competence for them.
To me CS was born with teams like wNv, lunatic-hai, project_kr 2005 and PGS 2006 that were way ahead of their time and added a much faster reactive play destroying teams that refused to adapt, (i.e. NiP, Team3D, SK, etc). Before 2006 CS was boring and slow, the CT side had the upper hand and extremely slow holds were the default, there wasn't much more than that.
Post edited 2012-10-20 00:54:56
To me CS was born with teams like wNv, lunatic-hai, project_kr 2005 and PGS 2006 that were way ahead of their time and added a much faster reactive play destroying teams that refused to adapt, (i.e. NiP, Team3D, SK, etc). Before 2006 CS was boring and slow, the CT side had the upper hand and extremely slow holds were the default, there wasn't much more than that.
Post edited 2012-10-20 00:54:56
2012-10-20 00:50:30
Well NoA back then which was a mix of American players placed second behind SK in CPL Winter 2003 with a few weeks of practice. Thats says a lot about competition back then. Also in CPL Summer 2004 there was no SK in the final, they were beaten by EYE, that also says a lot. And the only thing Korean teams managed to do is to play in the 2005 CPL final thats all. Also without force buying the second round they didn't really bring in any serious competition besides fast style of gameplay
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2012-10-20 12:14:49
Lets make it clear, yes the navi-lineup are among one of the greatest in history of CS.
But "2010 total domination - raping and winning everything" is kinda semi-myth. Look up the detailed statistics of that year (yes they won all 3 tournaments 2010 - what is/was labeled majors at the latest years of Counter-Strike).
For sure top1-team of that year, but look up the true facts, Rly. And you see the "2010 total domination"-statement is not rly the legit truth.
But "2010 total domination - raping and winning everything" is kinda semi-myth. Look up the detailed statistics of that year (yes they won all 3 tournaments 2010 - what is/was labeled majors at the latest years of Counter-Strike).
For sure top1-team of that year, but look up the true facts, Rly. And you see the "2010 total domination"-statement is not rly the legit truth.
2012-10-20 01:02:12
I think the best thing about this clip is that it shows cs 1.6 back before all the scrubs started crouch-hopping around maps and screwing up hit boxes. You would never hit those shots today. Do you see any crouch hopping in this vid by heaton or the enemy? None at all, just like 1.6 was meant to be played. RIP 1.6 ahahaha
2012-10-20 06:47:57
It's best ak of CS history ? nice joke guys.
It's best ak of cs history
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nACv4Cjbe-A
It's best ak of cs history
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nACv4Cjbe-A
2012-10-20 13:27:29
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