ESEA now in Germany
Time: 2012-08-23 22:59
Game: All

ESEA has started its expansion to Europe with Germany today as their first servers have gone up, with CS 1.6, CS:Source and CS:GO servers hosted in Frankfurt.

Elements of the website and the industry leading anti-cheat client have been translated into German and the datacenter is online. The Germany community will be ran by former mousesports manager Pouria "puri" Naseri.

Next expansion in Europe will be the Nordics where the first datacenter is expected to be up and running shortly in Stockholm, Sweden, followed up by another one in London, England.

To celebrate ESEA's expansion, they have decided to host the first of many ESEA cups to home, this one sponsored by ZOWIE Gear. Registration for the CS:GO 5v5 cup taking place on Saturday September 30 is now open. All members must have ESEA Premium to be eligible to compete.

Prizes:

1. 5x ZOWIE EC1 eVo mice + ZOWIE G-CM mousepads
2. 5x ZOWIE AM mice + P-TF mousepads
3. 5x ZOWIE G-CM mousepads

Some of the features of ESEA include an automated gather, or pug, system, the industry leading anti-cheat which also restricts the use of cvars, advanced statistics and demos from every gather and more.

As ESEA continues to expand, they will also add servers dedicated for practice and launch the ESEA league which in North America features over $300,000 in prizes annually as well as LAN Finals for the Invite division.

Tags: ESEA, Germany

its true you must pay to play ?
2012-08-23 23:00:14
Yes, it has always been like that.
2012-08-23 23:11:17
here we go. euros always want everything for free. they didnt want to play source because they had to upgrade their computers. they dont want to play cs go because they have to upgrade their computers. they dont want to play esea because they have to pay. nothing is free in this world, get used to it, and get a freaking job.
2012-08-23 23:30:08
america! fuck yeah! that's the spirit, that's the right mentality!
2012-08-23 23:31:47
+1 shizo
2012-08-23 23:50:26
+1
2012-08-23 23:34:59
I got the money, but I lack the age ;) 6 more months untill i'm 18 so, I got nothing to pay with ;)
2012-08-23 23:42:09
hehe, I am 18 but lack the money :D
2012-08-24 02:16:56
you can get a debit card at any age anywhere in the world... thats enough to open your paypal account.
2012-08-24 14:27:46
Too much stress ;D
2012-08-24 15:43:38
or plain lazy!! Maybe even dumb!
2012-08-25 21:33:19
Would go for the first option ;)
2012-08-25 22:22:23
Too much stress? Jeez. You seem sheltered.
2012-08-28 07:11:23
'merica!
2012-08-23 23:44:25
shut up yankee-boy

Everyone in Germany who's playing CS 1.6 got a PC to play CS:S or CS:GO. But guess what? Those games simply suck.

Why should we pay to play pugs? We're playing pugs since 13 years and we never paid for it. The thing is: Almost every second German player owns a server while most US players don't. We play on our own servers (even in the ESL) and since we pay for them we won't pay for playing pugs.

btw: Are you now allowed to use voice tools? Ahahaha using ingame-voice like we're still in 2000.

Post edited 2012-08-23 23:47:10
2012-08-23 23:44:51
by: owt
#36
+1
2012-08-23 23:47:18
you can actually use mumble with esea, with their mumble servers also
2012-08-23 23:50:07
do you pay to be on them either? :)
2012-08-24 01:51:51
expend my life time and pay for it - no, thanks! hahahaha And what I've maybe(!) getting?
2012-08-24 17:28:40
by: sMB-
#53
If you think about it no one has to pay for a server and mumble you just pay for Esea.

Here Esea allowed us to find better quality scrims and find them faster. Its really nice if you have a lot of people on board.
2012-08-24 00:15:08
I heard ESEA scrims are full of trolls...


But anyway: I never had a problem to find good people to play with/against. IRC, invite-only-communities, gather-networks and not to forget: There's still the ESL Versus (but tbh I don't use Versus since most people playing ESL Versus are just annoying lowbobs).
2012-08-24 00:44:09
by: sMB-
#96
Ah. Well here if you don't use Esea for a scrim someone is speed hacking :p.
2012-08-24 04:23:20
"Why should we pay to play pugs?"

so you don't have to pay your own server, as you said most of you do, maybe?
2012-08-24 00:25:37
Owning a server gives you way more than just the ability to play pugs. Kick trolls, flamers and other annoying people, play 2on2s and 1on1s, play funmaps, aimmaps and kreedz-maps, ...
2012-08-24 00:37:56
oh, i see. i guess i'd rather esea because i just play 5 on 5 and i don't like to wait too much for it
2012-08-24 01:01:50
the ability to play matches in minutes without having to look for an opponent, meet new people constantly and play on servers with good anticheat is something that doesnt come with your servers. I personally hate waiting to find a decent opponent so I used to love playing esea since I can just join a server at any time and within a few minutes the match would start.
2012-08-24 04:26:40
IHL.
2012-08-24 04:36:21
ihl can take like 10-30 minutes before everyone added and is on the server. esea always gather within a couple of minutes.
2012-08-24 05:47:10
and have constant fights with kids speaking gipsy, french, greek or whatever with most of them being just plain stupid mean and rude
no thanks
2012-08-26 22:42:32
Not to mention that every once in a while you can play against ESEA-I players. There is one downside, ESEA servers suck on some of them the reg is so bad, its like you playing on 500fps server.
2012-08-25 21:36:55
you can setup 2v2s on gather servers.. they also have a fun maps server, aim map servers, jump map server. Give them time to fully expand with multiple servers like they have here. ESEA has made playing CS incredibly simple all while getting rid of cheaters. you will see the light :)
2012-08-28 07:14:03
well said german brother
2012-08-24 00:49:20
they pay for esea because there are less cheaters

when i went to school in canada i paid for esea too, not because there werent other options but because there are almost no cheaters

if youre pugging you can call out every other player that they cheat, but theres no guarantee that theyre actually cheating. with esea you can (or at least used to be able to) suspect players or call an admin into the server to spectate people. if not immediately, a couple days later that person would be banned.

that, servers, and people ready to play, rather than sitting in IRC for 20min trying to find a team that wants to play a pug on the map that you want.
2012-08-24 02:42:05
There are esea proof cheats out there...with a monthly fee...profits probably going to esea as well cause they don't seem to care when you tell them the website where the cheats are. THE ORGANNERS

Post edited 2012-08-24 04:07:19
2012-08-24 04:06:20
we are used to pay so no problem here
2012-08-24 02:55:15
greece is used to receive arnt they? :)
2012-08-24 14:10:06
yeap like all countries in this world :)
2012-08-24 14:31:30
+1
2012-08-24 05:29:52
by: Few
#153
Everyone in the US had a server, until ESEA only charged $7 a month and you got to use dozens upon dozens of servers.
2012-08-24 17:06:43
dude ... i just want to know this >.<
2012-08-23 23:44:58
you can say that but we are saving a lot of money thats why europe is now richer than america and america has more debts than europe easy save money to play go with esl thats why we like esl and hate esl haha :P
2012-08-23 23:55:18
U are nub if u think that we dont want to upgrade our comps... WE DONT WANT TO PLAY CS:GO!
Cause u like graphic that game has no movement skill!
2012-08-23 23:57:51
tell me more about how much you actually know about euros.
2012-08-24 00:22:57
What an idiot. Man you are so retarded. Sorry for that, but you are retarded.

People don't want to play CS:GO because this game sucks not because of bad PCs...
2012-08-24 00:31:26
People have been paying for cs-, ventrilo-, mumble- and teamspeak servers since 1999... Dota2 is free btw :|
2012-08-24 00:43:49
I Agree with you on the point of disliking whining kids that want everyrhing for free, but if you seriously think the average euro 1.6 player needs to upgrade their comp before they'd be able to play css or csgo you are completely mentally challenged
2012-08-24 09:09:51
get em boy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5UkApK7d5g
2012-08-24 09:41:33
Hahaha :)
2012-08-24 13:31:04
if ur country would have had more things for free u wouldnt have a debt of over 1trillionbillionmegamillion
2012-08-24 14:07:01
+1
2012-08-24 18:02:06
Man, you're american, not european so don't comment it if you don't know how is sitiuation and what law is in those european countries. You can simply get a job when you have 16 years without good education or without practice I GUESS. And in many european countries is crisis. By the way, don't forget that ESEA commes to Europe for USA which is one of the most materialistic country :)

Post edited 2012-08-24 18:00:42
2012-08-24 17:47:59
thats why american banking system started the economic crisis. because u spent too much for WARS!
try to live with peace and your country will suck harder then Greece.
2012-08-24 23:44:10
nobody played css cause it sucked
2012-08-25 21:41:21
I live in Sweden, therefor in Europe, you do realize that there are over 800 milion people and over 30 countries in Europe, so trying to generalize. I don't play source because the game sux, I don't wanna play ESEA because I can play at playnation.se, you are the dumbest person yet at HLTV.org, no wonder u come from the us..
2012-08-28 05:47:55
yay
2012-08-23 23:00:23
oh god why
2012-08-23 23:00:39
nice :D

Post edited 2012-08-23 23:02:52
2012-08-23 23:02:04
by: PooN
#5
1.6 really, surprise
2012-08-23 23:02:39
ESEA has said it will always support the 3 versions, as long as we continue want them.

Hell, we still have a killer TF2 league.
2012-08-23 23:32:41
That's neat!

How does the ESEA AC compare vs EAC and ESL Wire?
2012-08-23 23:03:59
Better than EAC, probably on the same level as wire if not way more fool proof.

also it costs 3 euros a months, or something like that.
2012-08-23 23:05:28
esea AC is probably the best anti-cheat, its the same as finidng hackers with ESL, but esea is way more easier to use than ESL and EAC,
2012-08-23 23:09:09
got it. esea has quite a lot of features but the AC is what makes them so good

jaguar makes the best AC, simple
2012-08-23 23:12:41
Organner:


"Challenge accepted."
2012-08-23 23:48:30
organners gets detected on esea all the time.
2012-08-24 00:06:41
Wait for the next 300 Dollar generation.
2012-08-24 00:34:16
"esea is way more easier to use than EAC"

Here you are wrong. EAC is the most easyest to use AC client in the world. You just need to double click it and voila, you can play.
2012-08-23 23:55:09
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#121
EAC is harder to use than ESEA already because you have to connect to a certain server - something you do not have to do with ESEA.
2012-08-24 13:10:57
Nice i hope its gonna be big.
2012-08-23 23:04:19
noice

start subscribing guiz

>___> i wanna watch the euros play :D
2012-08-23 23:07:01
ESEA has amazing features, and good prizes Zowie is quality.
2012-08-23 23:11:46
Oh. My. God. HERE WE GO!
2012-08-23 23:11:48
nice.. gl guys
2012-08-23 23:12:38
Someone can explain me!
He have to pay to play on pugs?
2012-08-23 23:16:40
Yes. In USA its ~8$/month.
2012-08-23 23:19:01
Fuck! Portugal is in crisis!
2012-08-23 23:21:14
hahaahha
2012-08-23 23:24:53
by: muNi
#21
y, around 5 euros i think

Post edited 2012-08-23 23:21:41
2012-08-23 23:21:17
next time, PORTUGAL plz :D
2012-08-23 23:17:35
LETS ROLL
2012-08-23 23:18:05
+1, I've just added you mate
2012-08-23 23:47:08
pretty nice :p
2012-08-23 23:24:01
Euros, hear me. Whatever you do, never ask lpkane or his Euro-equivalent for a refund.
2012-08-23 23:25:48
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#77
Let us hope laws protect customers better in the EU than they apparently do in the States.
2012-08-24 00:51:13
He is the dictator of ESEA. We are used to it. In fact, we love him for it. Always entertaining threads.
2012-08-24 21:38:40
Example? I mean, the threads.
2012-08-27 16:19:13
gotta love opt-in accreditations /sarcasm

http://www.bbb.org/new-york-city/business-reviews/..

"THIS BUSINESS IS NOT BBB ACCREDITED"


"F: On a scale of A+ to F"
2012-08-25 18:20:02
Fuck, were poor.
2012-08-23 23:38:14
Just wondering , could you actualy play this for example from Serbia ? Since border is "ESEA now in Germany" , so , servers and site or whole thing is german-based ?
edit : typo

Post edited 2012-08-23 23:53:43
2012-08-23 23:53:28
You can play anywhere in the US, Brazil, and now, Frankfurt, Germany. So yes, if you want to play in the German servers, they're available.
2012-08-23 23:57:29
You guys are complaining over $6.95?

Like you realize buying a server is like 30$ PER MONTH? ESEA is only $6.95 and not only do you get to play pugs, you can play scrims, make a scrim team, FREE servers you can use, WHENEVER, put it on practice mode, and all of that. On top of that, there are challenges frequently in which you can win 250 points (per challenge) which is equivalent to $5. You have the chance of winning $5 like 10 times a day and you can use the points to buy something from the ESEA market.

So please, don't complain over $6.95, it's COMPLETELY worth it and you actually save money. If you don't want CS 1.6 dead, subscribe, already a bunch of Europeans that signed up so lets just all unite and play CS.

Lpkane said swedish servers are even coming out by next friday or earlier so just get your friends and play pugs and scrims and soon, matches and a league should be introduced in Europe.

SUBSCRIBE TO ESEA & PLAY NOW

<3
2012-08-23 23:54:26
read comment #33
start with the second paragraph btw.

Post edited 2012-08-23 23:56:20
2012-08-23 23:55:47
"Almost every second German player owns a server while most US players don't"

^North American/ US players have owned servers a couple years ago, almost everyone did. After ESEA introduced their deal, it sold all of us, no one wants to play off-client with cheaters and no one wants to pay $30 for a server, I'd rather pay $6.95 for literally everything you can ask for.

"We play on our own servers (even in the ESL) and since we pay for them we won't pay for playing pugs".

^Makes no sense at all.
You: paying 30$ for server + free pugs!!
ME: paying 6.95$ for servers, pugs, challenges, best anti-cheat in the world, free mumble(in league) & more!

"btw: Are you now allowed to use voice tools? Ahahaha using ingame-voice like we're still in 2000".

^We do use voice tools, such as: Mumble and Ventrilo. Programs like TeamSpeak and RaidCall are less popular but EVERYONE uses a voice program, we only use in-game in pugs because not everyone likes to give out Vent/Mumble/IP to random people.

You guys don't understand, you guys get free servers and a ton more for $6.95.

SUBSCRIBE TO ESEA & PLAY NOW !!

<3
2012-08-24 00:06:50
that's all great. but esl is decent as well (although it might not be as amazing as esea is according to you), and it's completely free.

afaik there are cheaters on esea, aaand wire is imo just as good as esea ac in terms of detecting cheaters.

oh well, it's good to see an organization supporting 1.6 (and other games).

hf
2012-08-24 00:24:13
Far from, ESEA is the only anticheat in the world to detect Valkyrie (private cheat), and they did more than once.
2012-08-24 00:38:13
i've got an impression the percent of caught cheaters on both clients is about the same
2012-08-24 00:45:47
Care to elaborate?

This is very incorrect information, EasyAntiCheat detected the Hardware Overlay more than two times. And it's currently detected.

All hardware overlays are detected by EasyAntiCheat in the current state and there're none private cheats whatsoever on EAC.

Every privatecheats released on EAC besides the very private ones (epride, neverlan, etc) those aren't for the public to buy either way.

So ESEA is as good as EAC but with differs. ESEA switches between detection methods and such. (Has a stronger encryption using Themida and rotating between different anticheat modules).

But EPRIDE works on ESEA flawless.

Post edited 2012-08-24 11:13:47
2012-08-24 11:11:47
Valkyrie was never detected by EAC and still isn't. It still works on ESEA too, but they detected it in the past.

Maybe they detected some random EA/X22 overlay that fucking sucks, got no clue, but they never ever detected Valkyrie and thats a fact.

I've got no clue about any other cheats I must say, all I know is that EAC never Valkyrie in the almost 4 years of existance...

The only anticheat that was able to detect Valkyrie was ESEA, they achieved this more than once and each time it took several months to accomplish, as you can see anyone who states an anticheat cannot be bypassed is simply wrong.

I doubt he would lie about it.
2012-08-24 15:43:23
If you don't have any clue what your talking about, then you might just shut the hell up because you don't know what your saying right now.

EasyAntiCheat detected every piece of shit ORGANNER and will always detect him every 3 months.

Hardware overlay got detected long ago, and will always be detected.

ESEA detected all sorts of Overlays and so does EasyAntiCheat @ 1.6.

It's easy API's to prevent people from using them. The functions used at an Overlay are ridiculous so it's not use to do them any longer.

I know only one cheat that is fully undetectable on EAC/ESEA, and that's a private version of NEVERLAN, it's called "Duplicateh4x".
2012-08-25 10:45:00
Obviously you have no idea what you talking about and you just proved it in this post.

If someone is able to detect "Hardware Overlay" then its detected at all, in all games, not only in CS 1.6.. But of course you don't know this as you cannot code and only repeat what you hear from other kids whos average age is 13.

Another lie is about Organner being detected by EAC. His Immunity Duo is undetected since release ( 5 months ) and EAC cannot do a shit. Xliqz bought his hack and gave up. He still visit his forum every day and hope he could be like him.

Finally all this cheats which you named are simply copy and paste hacks about which no one ever heard.

Seriously kids like you, who have no idea about coding and cheats should shut the fuck up and let adult talk.

Post edited 2012-08-25 12:29:38
2012-08-25 12:26:31
Hardware Overlay is detected. And you've nothing to do with coding.

Matter of fact, Overlays are heavily concentrated right now. Most Overlays are detected on Wire and such anticheats.

EasyAntiCheat detects Hardware Overlays in 1.6 - For more information, contact info@easyanticheat.net and ask him about the cheat not working ;)

2012-08-26 20:53:06
Every 3 months? Rofl.

Immunity has been out for half a year or so, and EAC have yet to detect it. And thats not even a private hack, everybody with a fucking PayPal account can go purchase it.

I'm not the one stating that it has never been detected by EAC, I just c/p'ed whatever ORGANNER wrote on his blog. So the one "who doesn't know what hes talking about" is ORGANNER in this case, which I highly doubt. Sure, you may know alot more than me regarding cheats and such, I must admit I don't really look into it that much.

"All hardware overlays are detected by EasyAntiCheat in the current state and there're none private cheats whatsoever on EAC."

Not sure if troll or just very, very stupid. :/

Post edited 2012-08-25 18:43:31
2012-08-25 18:39:41
There're not that many private cheats that bypasses screenshot on EasyAntiCheat any longer.

By that, no ESP's and such that works properly on EasyAntiCheat besides one actor (who's being detected once a month).

So, stop acting internethero with your bullshit. ORGANNER isn't a coder anywhere and will never be able to code.

His shit is copypasted shit from Rootkit.com back from Ualls source 2006. It's all the same shit with new interface and new proofings.

Post edited 2012-08-26 20:54:59
2012-08-26 20:54:37
I can already tell you that I know a cheat that currently bypasses EAC with ESP, and have been doing so for quite some time now.

I have no fucking clue what you're talking about regarding Rootkit, but saying that Hardware Overlay is currently detected is such a huge fail that I don't even know why I'm replying.

I KNOW its not detected by EAC, theres people out there who CURRENTLY uses it and HAS BEEN using it for a long time.

If the owners/coders of EAC are so fucking hardcore like you make them out to be, how come they haven't detected Immunity ONCE yet, when they apparently detect every kind of cheat once a month/3 months?

And as I said, its not like Immunity is some hardcore private hack nobody can get their hands on. Everybody can get it.

EAC havent detected Valkyrie in 4 years, ITS A FUCKING FACT. I don't fucking care what shit you come up with, or how many random code words you use, it hasn't been detected by EAC. End of fucking story man.

Post edited 2012-08-26 21:09:53
2012-08-26 21:08:26
Valkyrie been detected by EasyAntiCheat. Does that make you raged?

It has been detected, offsets been scrambled dozen times.

Last time he made Immunity, it got detected. And it'll be detected again. (Already had offsets broken a few times which caused Immunity to update).

ORGANNER can't do shit vs EasyAntiCheat in a longer period. Immunity was released 4 months ago approx (betatested for 8 months).

I knew a guy who was moderating for ORGANNER called jedic and I know a few ppl who were vouching for organner.

Here's what you could do, upload the module files for Valkyrie and I'll show you magic

EA
2012-08-26 21:22:16
Really?

6 months is pretty awesome. And 4 years even more.

What you gon' do about it? Vakyrie was never detected.

I guess you wouldn't believe it even if you saw it with your own eyes.

I'm happy that you know some MODs on a cheating forum, what does that make you? And also, the only thing that makes me rage is that Valkyrie ain't detected and hasn't been for 4 fucking years, and yet you still claim that it is when its still undetected. What the fuck?

Did I forget to mention that EAC has actually banned innocent people several times for cheating, when they hadn't done shit? :D O thats true, few of my friends actually also got banned during that time.

EAC is a shitty anticheat, come at me bro ;-D

Post edited 2012-08-26 21:37:15
2012-08-26 21:30:41
You can't get banned unless you've virus / wrong MEMORY and such. (Errors related to user problems)

(Probably your friend trying to start some cheat that is already flagged)

That "MOD", also known as Jedic, is one of ORGANNERs closest moderators on the site.

And Valkyrie has been detected several times (he have updated the cheat several times just like he did with immunity).

Why do you even defend ORGANNER? He's still buying peoples sourcecode in order to keep with the fight :D Cool story bro continue buying scam products :D
2012-08-26 21:40:05
I'm not defending anyone, in fact I have no clue about much of the cheats out there, I just happen to know alot of people who know alot about it.

I honestly couldn't care less what the fuck ORGANNER do, its just hilarious to see that you still think that Valkyrie was detected, and how you spit out such retarded statements.

#1 Currenly no private cheats on EAC.

#2 Valkyrie is detected.

#3 EAC will always detect shit every 3 months.

Ain't you the guy whos like the most hated person on the swedish scene? Well I guess we know why. Stubborn as fuck.

Now, I really dont wanna spend more time trying to make you realize the truth, its a fucking impossible task.

And no, he didn't start shit, it was SEVERAL people that wrote to me and asked if I got banned. I would guess 3-4 guys on my friendslist.
2012-08-26 21:52:33
"I just happen to know alot of people who know alot about it."

You know shit about the scene nor the people in the scene. You only know paycheat heroes that sells c&p material to eurofags who can't spend time using HL1 SDK and learning how to code (instead of c&p everything from old sources and adding new offsets to functions)

"I honestly couldn't care less what the fuck ORGANNER do, its just hilarious to see that you still think that Valkyrie was detected, and how you spit out such retarded statements."

I know this from personal information. Xliqz has previously told me directly in the main anticheat channel that he has infact detected their overlay a few times now.

He also mentioned that Immunity some month ago had scrambled offsets. (By that, the aimbot jumped into the air while holding AIM-KEY).

"Ain't you the guy whos like the most hated person on the swedish scene? Well I guess we know why. Stubborn as fuck."

Son, what does my status has to do with my awareness of the scene. I been dealing with eurofags like you for many years now.

ORGANNER can't code shit, if you want, I can let you in a private mumble and you can hear it from 10 others if you want.

"Now, I really dont wanna spend more time trying to make you realize the truth, its a fucking impossible task."

There's no truth in what your saying. The Valkyrie hack has been detected before, by that (having problems with offsets). There's different ways of detecting a cheat.

Detecting a cheat doesnt neccesarly mean you ban all users using the cheat. (It can have something to do with the fact that it's blocked too).

Unneccesary to flag a cheat where there're 5 users when you simply could block it.

"And no, he didn't start shit, it was SEVERAL people that wrote to me and asked if I got banned. I would guess 3-4 guys on my friendslist."

Only reason why you could get banned on EasyAntiCheat is either by running a third-party program, having faulty MEM, using programs that behaves like cheats.

So, I think I'm out of this conversation with you when you don't know shit about coding or about how software operates, thank you and have a nice day!





Post edited 2012-08-26 21:59:44
2012-08-26 21:59:06
Is this truth you code for Xliqz?

You make his detection codes?

This would explain why this anticheat is nooby in last years.

E-Scene must be proud that such advanced codes like you help on EAC.

Now honestly, if Jimster480 says you don't know shit then you don't know shit. He probably have around 5 people who can confirm this ( you can join our vent for immigrants and muslims ).

I hope one day you will detect Immunity from Organner because its rapding your anticheat since months and it seems like nothing will change.

I had to stop playing on EAC and move to more advanced anticheats because of ammount of cheaters.

Even fuckin ozone or something bypass this shitty AC. Im so raged that you cannot play without cheaters.

Maybe Jimster480 will make some good ac one day, but then again noobs like you will talk shit about him because they are jealous.
2012-08-27 06:11:08
Cheat is detected when people get banned, not when it stop to work correctly. Once again a big lack of knowledge on your side. Why are such people like you coding for EasyAntiCheat? Xliqz pays a lot for code from people like you and then we all wonder why cheaters are still in the business...
2012-08-27 06:17:13
I'm not coding for EasyAntiCheat?

What make you think that? Why are you all hooked up on Jimster480?

He's one of many good coders out there. ORGANNER ain't a coder, he's a copypasting polack fkr who's paying big bucks to remove peoples ads on Cheat-Project.

EasyAntiCheat is a single man project with a little help from others@gd.

Jimster480 won't do an AC simply because he has no time dealing with all eufags who end up being banned because they purchase noob c&p cheats?

"Cheat is detected when people get banned, not when it stop to work correctly. Once again a big lack of knowledge on your side. Why are such people like you coding for EasyAntiCheat? Xliqz pays a lot for code from people like you and then we all wonder why cheaters are still in the business..."

So, you don't think a cheat can crash (and being detected at the same time) ?

Try opening some cheat from CP and you'll see what happens. (The game will crash for you because the cheat is detected.)

There's different methoding in his way. He used to crash the hl.exe before he used EAC Cheat kick. He implemented EAC cheat kick 2 years ago. Before EAC cheat kick, there was simply crash (that was some API being detected and making the whole thing crash up).

Offsets were also a problem back then, so <--
2012-08-27 12:05:01
Most of this cheats are public available since months, you just need few euros to buy, so don't act like problem doesn't exist. No one will send you shit when you can just spend few euros and have it on your own. but then what ? Nothing as you cannot detect this because you don't have enough skills set. You are just a noob and 5 people can confirm this in irc or vent or mumble. Thats the magic bra.
2012-08-27 06:15:28
O really, I don't mind you giving Immunity Duo files (exe)

And I can show you with LIVE STREAM when I take it a part and examine it (unpacking the whole shit is ez because I know what public rootkit.com loader he uses, he uses uall source).

<-- And if you want, you can add organner and have a chat with him regarding the fact that he buys proofings from others!

You don't need to be a genious or a supercracker to do something as ez as cracking a cheat packed with shit and made in shit too


Post edited 2012-08-27 12:01:00
2012-08-27 12:00:49
Please go ahead and give the name of public rootkit loader. It will be verified very soon, and in case you are wrong, we will laugh in your face silly.

You didn't answer my question, are you helping EasyAntiCheat? This would explain why anticheat is so weak lately and doesn't catch 'public rootkit' hacks.
2012-08-27 12:04:26
Uall sourcecode, ask uall on MSN.

He'll give you his sourcecode. The reason why EasyAntiCheat can't detect Immunity Duo is because of how Immunity operates.

xliqz isn't the best man when it comes to sysinternal and dealing with cheats runned in Kernel.

He blocks ofcourse the most used APIs in kernel but there's a lot ways to get in.

And also, xliqz must ensure that EasyAntiCheat don't crash your PC by giving users bluescreen because of detecting Immunity Duo.

Kernel stuff isn't the easiest thing to deal with when your an anti-cheat coder. (It's a bit easier than Internal cheats but still, it's a bit tough).

Those updates being made in EasyAntiCheat has to function on every PC. You just can't go into sysenter and disable alot and make peoples PC crash. So what xliqz is doing is that he's playing poker and once a while take a look at it :)

Post edited 2012-08-27 12:10:29
2012-08-27 12:08:21
Uall source was in delphi while Immunity is coded in asm and C. Uall is gone since 6 years. I could tell you more about him, because you obviously have no idea who is he. So tell me once again, who i should message on "msn" ?

You just said that Immunity is detected and now you say it cannot be detected ? Why are you lying all the time like a dirty dog.

Wire and ESEA operate in kernel mode but they didn't detect Immunity ? Why if its same level and public source code? Why lie again dog ?

You need to help xliqz dog, as you are to be the most smart person in the entire vent of 10 people. Without you he won't be able to combat such advanced hacks.

Can we count on you dog ?

Please code EasyAntiCheat and catch cheats every 3 months.

Now someone who will read all your comments in this news will laugh a lot xD

Post edited 2012-08-27 12:32:55
2012-08-27 12:25:55
It can be detected?

Yeah, let ORGANNER read my posts. I've said the same thing to him for the past 3 years either way.

He knows that he buys proofings from other coders, he knows he's just a hobbycoder. Live and deal with it.

Immunity has been detected before. It's the same piece of shit released 2 years ago. Only with new sets of proofings.

"Wire and ESEA operate in kernel mode but they didn't detect Immunity ? Why if its same level and public source code? Why lie again dog ?"

You just don't get it do you? You can't just enter windows internals and do a whole load of shit. You need to figure out an easy shortcut and there's no easy shortcut because you don't want to have an unstable OS because of a shitty program?

"Please code EasyAntiCheat and catch cheats every 3 months."

I'm not a coder for EasyAntiCheat nor am not I related to anything regarding EasyAntiCheat.

You've simply mistaken me for being a part of it and that's something I don't understand how you can come up with such bullocks.

Immunity Duo isn't advanced hax and it's already been silent detected by ESEA. If you take a look at their latest AC module released a week ago you'd see that the driver signatures are detected :D

Wire is the same piece of shit made from aequitas. This time nothing is made in VBasics hahaha, and it's coded entirely in C++. It's just Aequitas with new skin and some new methods such as anti-injection. (wannabe EAC copycat)

Wire isn't good so. Comeback in about a month, I think xliqz will have this cheat detected by then because ESEA will pressure him to maximize the anticheat.

Please let this person laugh at me, I've nothing more to say other than you don't know what bullock your spewing out

2012-08-27 12:32:25
"
Wire is the same piece of shit made from aequitas. This time nothing is made in VBasics hahaha, and it's coded entirely in C++. It's just Aequitas with new skin and some new methods such as anti-injection. (wannabe EAC copycat)

Wire isn't good so. Comeback in about a month, I think xliqz will have this cheat detected by then because ESEA will pressure him to maximize the anticheat.
"

I will leave it this way. People associated with ESL league read this page as well. Now you just showed every one that you are an idiot with no knowledge, and when someone ask you a hard question you simply skip it and act like it didn't happen.

If someone still don't get it WMB aka Liban Aden is a HTML scipt kiddie who works with EasyAntiCheat. He help them to detect cheats. The results we can see ourself ( hahahah xD )

-EOF KID-


Post edited 2012-08-27 12:37:25
2012-08-27 12:36:43
"I will leave it this way. People associated with ESL league read this page as well. Now you just showed every one that you are an idiot with no knowledge, and when someone ask you a hard question you simply skip it and act like it didn't happen."

I'm pretty sure people who're affiliated with ESL knows how crap their anticheat used to be before wire releasing.

Wire is a piece of shit scanning software that does shit.

"If someone still don't get it WMB aka Liban Aden is a HTML scipt kiddie who works with EasyAntiCheat. He help them to detect cheats. The results we can see ourself ( xD )"

I'm not working for EasyAntiCheat, and I'm not a HTML script-kiddie either. Quite hilarious that you think wire is a good AC when there are more cheats to wire than to EasyAntiCheat.

Did you even know that half of the programmer language, Aequitas was written in was Visual Basics?

They were using fkn VB to make the client operate. That shows what a joke Aequitas used to be?

Cool story bro, I don't think no one cares either if I criticize Wire for being utter shit. The same goes for X-Ray, Custodia and all other BS anticheat released over the years.

Post edited 2012-08-27 12:44:14
2012-08-27 12:41:43
It was coded in VB, but it was 2005 year and back in then kids like you didn't even know HTML. Xliqz was still in army, working for 150e per month, so please don't spread the bullshit.

I have IRC logs where you tell people that you help EAC to detect cheats, and without you they would have much harder job.

In Germany we call people like you "crabs".

I proved in several points that you have no idea what you talk about, and you try to look smart in front of people who don't even understand what you talk about. Nice tactic, but it won't work any longer, as long as people like me will keep pointing out your lies and fantasies.

Post edited 2012-08-27 12:47:12
2012-08-27 12:46:39
"It was coded in VB, but it was 2005 year and back in then kids like you didn't even know HTML."

You can have as much IRC-logs as you want.

"I proved in several points that you have no idea what you talk about, and you try to look smart in front of people who don't even understand what you talk about. Nice tacit, but it won't work any longer, as long as people like me will keep pointing out your lies and fantasies."

Lies such as .. ? Oh yea, ORGANNER selling scam and being detected every 3 months on EAC. Cool story bro

What did you say about the Framework detection by EasyAntiCheat in February?

Causing major havoc on the forum and every customer demanding refund.

"In Germany we call people like you "crabs"."

You don't say? Then I guess I must be a crab then because I obviously according to you don't know shit when your basically saying that I'm right regarding how the anti-cheats operates.

Harhar, I thank you for the conversation, you need to get a new hobby other than cheating on a 12-yo game <-

Nothing more useless then to spend your time not knowing anything about coding and buying c&p hacks from polacks who don't even comprehend English.

Yet again, I want to thank you "WMB_IS_A_HURENSOHN" for your time and hope your efforts not gone to vain!

People must know the truth right? Then you go ahead and tell them how many times ORGANNER been detected on EasyAntiCheat and how many STEAM-accs that got banned during the raids too!

Such a loss, I can imagine myself a 15-yo eurofag fanboying c&p coders.

Post edited 2012-08-27 12:54:59
2012-08-27 12:53:48
hahahah

"Last time he made Immunity, it got detected. And it'll be detected again. (Already had offsets broken a few times which caused Immunity to update)."

"And Valkyrie has been detected several times (he have updated the cheat several times just like he did with immunity)."

"He also mentioned that Immunity some month ago had scrambled offsets. (By that, the aimbot jumped into the air while holding AIM-KEY)."

"He'll give you his sourcecode. The reason why EasyAntiCheat can't detect Immunity Duo is because of how Immunity operates."
"

Your mouth is full of bulls crap my friend :)

Post edited 2012-08-27 12:58:46
2012-08-27 12:58:15
EasyAntiCheat also uses Themida you retard. You have no idea what you talk about again.

EasyAntiCheat never detected any Hardware Overlays, and never will. Instead they go one step forward and block the entire hack.

Who did born a such retard?
2012-08-25 12:28:35
It doesn't use Themida. Sections are labeled with Themida.

It uses VMProtect and uses internal APIs for code encryption. Every string is encrypted in his modified packer.
2012-08-26 20:51:48
(I meant TrueCrypt + VMProtect) cu

CodeVirtualizer XD
2012-08-26 21:42:37
It doesn't change a fact you are a noob and Jimster480 as long as few other people in my private mumble says you cannot code and only copy and paste
2012-08-27 06:07:31
I've never said outspoken that I'm a coder so you can believe whatever you like.

What make you think that I put my interest in coding cheats? Are you some kind of a retard forgetting that I'm playing 1.6?

Oh yea, you're retarded because you act like ORGANNER is undefeatable. Cool story bro
2012-08-27 12:09:29
I didn't say you code cheats, sorry for bad impression. I only say you help EasyAntiCheat (your own words which you say every guy who message you on irc) to combat cheats. You help them so much that that in the end there is even more cheaters than before.
2012-08-27 12:54:49
Cool story bro. Aren't I supposed to help anti-cheaters to defeat kids like you?

I'm playing the game son, I don't want 1000 cheaters on the same server. I could instead play HackVsHack servers instead if I wanted to duel ESP boys and aimbot kids?
2012-08-27 12:56:51
Im only saying you are making a bad image for EasyAntiCheat. You want people to think your are associated with them and then you talk crap which makes healthy people blind. In the end only xliqz will be a loser of this, not me, not you. Tell me once again, how old are you, 15 ?
2012-08-27 13:01:27
How do I make/get bad image for EasyAntiCheat by sending in private cheats and informing xliqz about people doing hacks?

I've denied your allegations about me being a part of EasyAntiCheat, what more do you ask?

And also, I rather help someone to prevent something bad than helping the one doing bad.

I'm an anti-cheater so cu

Post edited 2012-08-27 14:33:07
2012-08-27 14:31:11
You are making a bad image because you tell people on every occasion that you help xliqz detecting hacks, by writing detection code etc. Then you start to talk crap, and with every new post you change your mind. You aren't a serious person to make conversation with. Just go through all your messages in this news, and you will say that once you say black is black, and then you say black is white. Looks like schizophrenia to me.
2012-08-27 14:52:22
by: JNA
#82
ESEA is the only anti cheat to detect organnar and private cheats dude. ESEA IS GOOD AS FUCKK
2012-08-24 01:19:12
I bet that TS3 has more users than other voice tools together in Europe. Calling it less popular seriously?
2012-08-24 00:49:51
12 slots 1000FPS 128 tickrate server + 12 slot Mumble/TS-Server for 21 Euros (some people even get their server for less than 10 Euros...you just need to know the "right" people).

If you share the servers with 2 buddies, this makes 7 Euros each. If I need a AC tool I play in the ESL (with my server and ESL Wire running) or I use one of the free gather-networks which got EAC licenses.

"we only use in-game in pugs because not everyone likes to give out Vent/Mumble/IP to random people."

Where's the problem with that? That's a common thing in Europe...
Believe me: Nobody in Europe will use ingame-voice.

Post edited 2012-08-24 01:04:52
2012-08-24 01:00:03
If you rent a server for 6 months (in Denmark), you will only have to pay around $8-10 a month. There are also free services like playnation and playzeek (correct me if I'm wrong anybody) where you can play gathers, ladders etc. on their servers with anticheat.

A lot of people also rent completely free servers for 1-2 hours at different websites.
2012-08-24 00:53:45
Yeah well, playnation and playzeek doesn't have leagues like ESEA do (I dont think so, atleast). PlayZeek isn't free, unless you only play gathers (cups, ladders does cost money, I think).

Also, ESEA is for everyone - not only swedes like playnation. PlayZeeks servers are fucking horrible to be honest, ESEA (been playing some pugs on the german server) are alot better.

Also ESEA detects shit that EAC never did.
2012-08-24 01:19:33
ESEA is way more advanced than EAC thats right.

EasyAntiCheat can stop only public hacks and some low private hacks.

When it comes to advanced cheats like Organner they are simply stuck.
2012-08-25 12:32:25
My friend wmb1 beg to differ. But according to him Hardware Overlay is detected by EAC, and theres currently no private hacks for EAC.

Oh wait thats not true, some random cheat called NEVERLAN (ofcourse its a random swedish hack, like his nationality), actually bypasses EAC - and Hardware Overlay fails to do so.

Must be some hardcore coders.

Derp.
2012-08-25 18:50:10
This kid (WMB1) just have no idea what he is talking about :P

I think someone brain washed him
2012-08-25 19:24:22
Ok, time to bash some kids here.

vaMpPpPp, your ignorance is annoying me. Time to talk.

There're loads of cheats out there on EasyAntiCheat that you've no clue on. I don't need to mention every single cheat I know of, but I've seen them all :)

And as for, wmb_is_a_hurensohn, time to correct you.

Framework got detected on EasyAntiCheat 8 months ago. Immunity Duo has had repeated updates for offsets problem related to EasyAntiCheat.

EasyAntiCheat isn't encrypted with Themida, it's packed with VMProtect and you need to "abuse" the stack memory, by violating memory in the process of EasyAntiCheat to extract information (making a dump).

EasyAntiCheat is labeled with Themida. And there're coders from ie. Edge of Nowhere, Game-deception and many other forums that does EasyAntiCheat hacks for lulz.

And there're no information whatsoever on every single module ESEA uses. EasyAntiCheat is one man army, with some help from some coders in G-D forums :)

Let me remind you, doesn't need any major highschool degree or such. ORGANNER buys proofings from coders and compiles cheats from their code. (He's a hobbycoder who happens to have an amount of cash and willing to pay people to code for him).

So, I think I'm fed with both you and this idiot "WMB_IS_A_HURENSOHN". I suggest you guys should read on and also, don't even care about the cheating scene. It's dead and it's filled with immature kids like you. :)
2012-08-26 20:50:44
Im going to show this thread to xliqz, to give him some lulz. Wav will laugh too, especially because he do all work for him.

Such skiddies like you have no idea what they talk about.

Also i was just talking with Jimster480 ( a very well known coder if you dont know who made bypass for EAC.. ) and he says you are wrong about VMProtect and you got simply fooled by fake string in some section or something. In short i was right you are a noob.

Post edited 2012-08-26 20:56:11
2012-08-26 20:55:08
Yeah, do that. He'll be laughing at you and telling me that I'm correct.

I don't think Jimster480 have the information regarding what EasyAntiCheat is packed in.

It's done with both VMProtect using a driver & Truecrypt.

Please, stop talking to me, you've no idea what your saying.
2012-08-26 20:57:18
I just proved 2 messages above that you are all wrong. Your facts aren't straight, and you didn't provide any proofs to denny my words. Jimmy told me exactly what kind of scumbag you are.

Please do not reply and don't comment next time in such news.
2012-08-26 22:09:20
Kid, what are you talking about?

"I just proved 2 messages above that you are all wrong. Your facts aren't straight, and you didn't provide any proofs to denny my words. Jimmy told me exactly what kind of scumbag you are."

As I said, what does Jimster480 have to do with the fact that EasyAntiCheat is using code virtualizer? By that is VMprotected.

You can learn more about it by trying to de-obfuscate the module. I'm not wrong in anyway. And his name isn't "Jimmy" either way, lets talk about something that is relevant because you don't get me anywhere.

Stop spending my time, and next time use a more creative nickname instead of calling me "HURENSOHN" =)
2012-08-26 22:12:52
Not right, its me who proved several messages before that you are a liar.

Please send 10 minutes analyzing what you said, and then what i said, and then what was your answer, and then tell me why you change your opinion when someone push you against the wall.
2012-08-27 15:20:07
Excuse me sir. I cheat on EAC right now as we speak. Is it bad that i have loaded 2 different cheats, Immunity and a private with visuals only?

Will i get detected??? Hold on! *pzzzzzt*
2012-08-28 01:12:43
They aren't free. PlayZeek costs cash if you want to host your own gather servers.

Playnation requires your last 4 digit, and you can't book server. It's a ladder. And they've only EasyAntiCheat. =)
2012-08-25 10:46:29
Well yeah, free with a premium model then. No idea what you can get on ESEA for free though.
2012-08-25 14:39:57
i'm not gonna buy a play account but nice 2 see still.
2012-08-23 23:55:04
Think about it guys: pay 4 euro per month (or even less if you pay more than 1 month) and you have the best anticheat in the market + access to career statistics + pugs + scrims + A LOT of cool features, and the most important thing: play pugs in just 2 clicks, without having to worry about cheaters, it's just so simple.

I'd change an snuff package per month which is about 4 euro for 1 ESEA month, definitely ^^

Post edited 2012-08-24 00:00:52
2012-08-24 00:00:37
let's play a pug right now :D
2012-08-24 00:13:11
ESEA in portugal pl0x
2012-08-24 00:17:56
it's interesting, when we launched a system without IRC, with prizes and still was free, no one wanted it - they prefered to stay in IRC. Now you beg for a similar (granted, better) system where you have to pay to play, to come here?
2012-08-24 00:29:54
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#75
As someone of the local Chamber of Commerce told me once, things seem to lack value for people unless they have to pay for them.
2012-08-24 00:49:20
please dont even compare excello with ESEA, i do believe that the all "rank" thing ruins the purpuse of gathers, wich is to have fun playing with someone that you never played before.
Thats why i want ESEA back in Portugal, for the fun of it, not because i want prizes or any shit like that, i dont give a damn about it anymore, theres a reason why i still play this game, and it isnt the "must be top fragger" thing, obviously.
Had the opportunity to play when they were still around, and know exactly what im asking for.

Post edited 2012-08-24 08:03:00
2012-08-24 08:01:27
that's funny because... ESEA also has monthly rankings (more than one actually). It doesn't use IRC, you join a server and .ready and play. The two differences between Excello's IRC-less attempt and ESEA is that in ESEA has a better client than what we used (Easy AntiCheat) you'll have to pay 5€ a month to play while Excello was free. :)

People did not switch for something without IRC eventhough it was free and we turned off the IRC system, they won't move from IRC to pay 5€ a month
2012-08-24 14:38:16
not points based tho.
but whatever i just said that i wanted ESEA in Portugal and i still say it, and wouldnt trade it for 10 xlo´s.
2012-08-24 16:41:36
wtf is pug
2012-08-24 00:19:51
pug = gather. so you join the server and play with mixed people
2012-08-24 00:22:58
are there lots of players playing in EU ESEA?
2012-08-24 00:25:11
It just got launched last night, currently a few hundred or more subscribers in EU(pretty fast) but like 17,000 world wide subscribers.

It's just expanding and I guess HLTV is just spreading the world for everyone to subscribe because it really is the last thing keeping CS 1.6 alive.

Like I stated in past posts, there will more more than just Germany servers, Swedish servers are going live by next week and other regions a bit later :P
2012-08-24 00:33:29
by: JNA
#84
25,000 + at the start of 2012.
lpkane posted it in a thread~
2012-08-24 01:21:04
pug = pick up game
2012-08-24 06:34:44
gl!
2012-08-24 00:20:57
Gotta agree with the americans here, holy shit 6 dollars is nothing at all :D

Free servers to use whenever
scrims
pugs
leagues

Just skip a cup of coffee and you're set.
2012-08-24 00:34:49
"Next up is the Nordics, which will be coming online shortly with a datacenter in Stockholm, followed by the United Kingdom with servers in London".

-- Craig "Torbull" Levine
2012-08-24 00:45:51
6 dollars ppls here cry for 6 dollars? ok bye
2012-08-24 00:48:48
by: JNA
#81
Guys ESEA is honestly the future of cs.
They have 4 Huge lans ever year and have great tournaments/League seasons. ESEA is a great community and it is worth $7 A month!
2012-08-24 01:18:15
Yeah so true.. as it has been mentioned that CS actually needs a lot more leagues to keep it alive!
2012-08-24 02:13:17
Finally to have something good. Kaman ESEA, gogog CS1.6 !
2012-08-24 01:24:44
Estonia has always needed a good start so many guys would keep playing it but you don't find a GOOD PLACE to play anymore in Estonia cause ALL THE GATHERS ARE DEAD.. Would be awesome to see ESEA in Estonia tbh!
2012-08-24 02:12:32
Why are the frankfurt servers so empty? O_O
2012-08-24 03:24:12
i dont think that much people will still pay to play 1.6 but good luck esea in europe.
2012-08-24 03:53:34
Did did did you read this... with CS 1.6, CS:Source and CS:GO servers hosted in Frankfurt.

That's not only 1.6
2012-08-24 09:19:55
i know, im just talking about their 1.6 section with this post. since esl dropped 1.6 and source, only esea and ihl would be left but ihl is for free and i dont think that many people will pay money and switch to esea then, when they have a free and good alternative :)

csgo can be a success

Post edited 2012-08-24 09:25:19
2012-08-24 09:24:32
tbh I find ESEA better then IHL since it actually has amazing AC and doesn't matter if u pay, in IHL u need to play yourself to like top10 to get to play some better guys..
2012-08-24 09:51:11
Yes, we (ESL) dropped CS 1.6 from IEM and German Pro Series, but we still offer Cups, Ladders, Gather and VERSUS for CS 1.6 as well as Source and CS:GO. It's only the 'pro division' which we have dropped, for all others there are still plenty of things to play at ESL.
2012-08-24 17:34:33
Honestly Europe has been behind the 8-ball for years now...Coming from someone who spent time in both countries (germany/US) and saw the rise of ESEA completely take over North American CS the same will happen in Europe, a year from now everyone will be on it, and after that ESL leagues/tourneys will be obsolete.

Every player in Europe will not want to pay and complain but any player with half a brain realizes it is simply the BEST way to play competitive CS online. And really they are a good company...I know they used to have some terrible admins but Torbull runs a tight ship and tbh they only raised the price what $2? in five years...I remember it was $6 when it first came out in like 2007 and didn't have half the features it has now.

And on that fact, ESEA has the best AC client in the world hands down..it updates daily and catches every cheater soon or later.

*And these retarded excuses on these forums is ridiculous...who says you cant use Ventrilo? Obviously if your playing a random pug your going to have to use ingame but if your playing with your team or scrim team you can use vent no problem...some people even give out vent ip info in pug's.

And you dont need ESEA in specifiic countries..if you live in Estonia play on Swedish servers...

And comparing things like ESL/PlayZeek to ESEA is moronic...that is archaic technology compared to ESEA

Post edited 2012-08-24 05:34:50
2012-08-24 05:29:14
right, but the estonians won't ping 5 to 10 on swedish servers, and you know how recoil gets nice below 10 ping on 1.6. he meant quality servers, not just any server below 25 ping. and yep, you can use ventrilo, when you die your screen goes black to prevent ghosting, atleast when I use ventrilo.
2012-08-24 06:39:03
Actually we get that ping if we have decent internet like is "Elion" in our country ;)
2012-08-24 09:22:16
Actually with Elion you would get the ping around 20-30 because Elion has error-control turned on. With Starman/STV you can get 5-10 ping unless you have a good friend working @ Elion who could turn error control off.

Post edited 2012-08-24 14:30:05
2012-08-24 14:29:37
Umm I have Elion and got under 10 ping even on Norwegian server. I don't think I got someone who works there..
2012-08-24 14:33:35
I kinda find it hard to believe. Is it ELion digitv you´re using?
2012-08-24 14:35:21
Na I got EQ but its main company is Elion ..
EQ is only at Saaremaa if I am right.
2012-08-24 14:36:16
Then the case here is that EQ buys the line from Elion and EQ doesn´t have error-control turned on (it will increase your ping +5 to 10 atleast). Everyone i know that is using Elion even have 20-25 ping in gamehost servers..
2012-08-24 14:45:39
Alright ;) Feels nice for me then :D
2012-08-24 14:46:49
i know that americans/canadians/mexicans regularly play with 50-90 ping and dont complain

its hilarious reading people complaining that they wont get 10ping to a server
2012-08-24 15:34:57
yup. high ping is normal for us. Lowest ping I get in a server is normally 25 (in an Illinois server, and I live in Chicago). Normally I get around 45-55 if I'm playing TX/GA/VA/NY servers.
2012-08-24 21:43:32
when i lived in toronto for university i played with 30+ to chicago and was happy to get it
2012-08-24 23:01:57
plz ban the fuckin advertisers its just ridiculous prob every1 got some freemonth esea for their post. for u lazy americans it may be a prob to find games but in europe its different we ve more players and i personally own a server with 4 friends so the cost are about the same. My anticheat is the ban command. Every1 can have different opinon about that but stop this advertising it s just ridiculous.
2012-08-24 06:01:45
Then go on playing off-client with your friends, there is no need to hate people for stating their opinions about ESEA. ESEA just offers an easier alternative to play with a larger community than your "four friends". As for the outlandish comment about us "lazy Americans", that has no reason being in your comment about this topic. We've all spent countless hours in mIRC finding scrims back in cal and other leagues, ESEA just happens to make it easier because after a while it just takes too long to find an opponent to play against.

But in the end, it's your choice and opinion. I just feel that it's a good move to open the ESEA market to Europe to make the community larger. That's all we really want, to keep the community alive as long as we can.

2012-08-24 08:12:59
no one is advertising for profit.. lol
they're advertising to help keep the game we all love alive. :)
2012-08-24 08:57:46
You're an idiot, I think we are giving our opinions. We're not even advertising, just explaining the service and trying to keep the CS 1.6 community alive. It's kind of ironic too that most of you HLTV.org users are crying about CS dying and CSGO taking over and how you want 1.6 to stay alive but you guys are one of the reasons why the game is dying.

It's simple, pay $6.95, acquire loads of fun. Expand the community, lots of prize money, and hopefully international lans. That's what would keep CS 1.6 alive, the only thing that has potential in keeping it alive is ESEA. Not only will it keep it alive, it will make sure games like source and GO are also standing.

So stop being morons and just pay for the service IF you want your counter-strike to be alive past this year.
2012-08-24 10:47:45
So u dont know the european scene at all we can keepo it alive without ur esea and what ur doing is precisely advertising so stfu
2012-08-24 12:25:13
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#123
american scene keeps handing out $10k a season three times a year without any sponsors because of esea's model which is self sufficient. you see that in europe?
2012-08-24 13:23:18
no but making one dependable on one organization only isnt ideal and the reason the started a new go at europe is only because of go so i dont care
2012-08-24 14:50:27
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#142
i think that's what competition is for, and europe seems to have plenty of it
2012-08-24 14:59:52
What a coincidence that u can win esea premium at ur tournament which of course is in no relation to ur advertisement here...
2012-08-25 11:50:03
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#181
i asked them to provide some premiums and they obliged. problem?
2012-08-25 13:49:59
listen guys... I saw some comments about esl WIRE being a good anticheat,

Ive played 1000 matches on that piece of shit, and I can tell you THERE ARE ALOT OF CHEATERS!
2012-08-24 10:59:05
Oops.

Dn1, the community just can't accept change, most people are just immature and whiny.

Post edited 2012-08-24 11:08:58
2012-08-24 11:08:14
Here we go..
2012-08-24 12:39:08
When ESEA was in Europe back in the days, it was free at first, and when they had to pay like (us N/A) they all whined and stopped playing ESEA. Now they make you pay from day 1, try it 1 month for 7$ if u like it , good for u, if u dont like it just unsubscribe, ive been on esea for a couple years and its great, just the community sucks! full of trolls!
2012-08-24 13:01:53
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#122
esea is a great system for anything in cs, obviously it needs to grow a little in europe and build a userbase before you can enjoy it the way you can in north american, but having esea in north america is so much better than anything in europe (and his come from having been playing in europe for 7-8 years and in usa for 2 years on esea).

you have servers to practice on, play pugs on (you don't need to know anyone, there will be tons of server locations, you can get on their mumble or use ingame if you want to), go over strats on with your team (their servers have some insane mods where you can noclip through walls, get infinite nades etc), play aim maps, kz maps, whatever else exists on etc. you also get your own mumble server, so you don't have to worry about that.

obviously the huge selling point will be the league; in north america they've been handing out $10k for the winners in cs 1.6 and cs:s - it will take some time for europe to get there, but who wouldn't want to play in a solid league with a great anti-cheat, easy setup (via the website), full statistics and lan finals? the lower league levels also give everyone a chance to win prizes, not just pros.

when i was visiting my friend in new york in april and i wanted to kill time while he was at work, i loaded up esea client in 1 minute and was live in a pug in 2 minutes. i couldn't even install irc and figure out a gather channel to join in europe in that time after not playing for months.

my opinion is obviously very subjective, but they do have, by far, the best system for playing counter-strike anywhere based on my experience, and it's not even close.

Post edited 2012-08-24 13:22:23
2012-08-24 13:21:28
It'll be the revival of the 1.6 scene. That's why USA always got a huge base with major sponsors because of sites like these coming up.

USA always got serious shit going on, CGS and ESEA, CAL back in the days and stuff.

"my opinion is obviously very subjective" =)
2012-08-25 10:48:40
You don't have your own opinion, you only repeat what others tell you.
2012-08-25 12:30:45
Great!
2012-08-24 13:35:03
+1
2012-08-25 05:37:10
its great news, ive already PAID for esea. Who cares about that 4.50 in euros
2012-08-24 14:11:41
Your mother and your father cares , i think they working hard for this 4.50 Euros :)
2012-08-24 14:41:01
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#143
i'm not sure why you suggest users themselves wouldn't have 4,5 euros to spend on it
2012-08-24 15:15:56
hi tomi!
2012-08-24 16:19:16
Work hard for 4.50 euros? Are you kidding me?

I spend more money on toilet paper to wipe my ass.
2012-08-24 15:44:47
So true
2012-08-24 16:08:24
if someone earns 250e monthly and has to pay for house food fuel tv inet and so on 4.50e is alot of money. you might be able to buy food for 1 day or so in bulgaria.
2012-08-24 23:50:46
You think that my parents work hard for 4,50 hahahah
2012-08-24 16:07:16
Been playing for 3 months already
2012-08-24 16:18:23
It's silly to listen to Americans AND Europeans compare the United States to the European Union. It's one country being compared to an entire continent. And anyways who cares?

ESEA has single handedly kept CS 1.6 alive in the United States for years now. They offer Source, Starcraft2, Global Offensive, AND 1.6. you pick whichever one(s) (<- you can play more than one game) and play in a fair anti-cheat league. I love CS 1.6 and I pay my $8 a month to have a great anti-cheat client and a whole list of servers.
2012-08-24 18:29:23
You realize that california/florida is the size of sweden? so countries are pretty small here, no shit poeple are comparing cotinent to country.
2012-08-24 19:11:39
States in the USA are like countries in the EU and almost any state in the USA is bigger than whole country in the EU.
Just wanted to say that comparing USA to EU is pretty logical.
2012-08-25 03:41:30
WTF like i PAY to play fucking PuGs

uuh no cheaters... if i meet a cheater i kick/ban him problem solved.

And while im at it.... CS:GO is the biggest Piece of Shit of a Game released in the last few Years. How People actually can enjoy this crap shows how low the Gaming Scene has sunk.



Post edited 2012-08-24 23:01:40
2012-08-24 22:58:24
Its not only pug, you play for challenges, have fun at pugs, league, scrims, aim maps, etc.
2012-08-24 23:59:14
Imma just put it this way, if you guys don't pay for ESEA cs will die in Europe slowly, but if ESEA grows in Europe, you are gonna have a league, play with pros, and who knows maybe a Europe vs America Lan finals. It's your decision.
2012-08-25 05:07:20
so ? everything dies at one point. We dont need this shit
2012-08-25 12:23:13
Are you really this stupid or?

If you love cs 1.6 you will love ESEA. I really like the ESEA concept. If you don't have € 4,50 it doesn't mean it's shit..
2012-08-25 15:55:40
time = money. and ESEA saves you a lot of time.
2012-08-25 07:26:44
ive waited all day and i saw noone in that server
2012-08-25 09:59:11
gl ESEA
2012-08-25 19:15:30
HOW TO PLAY ESEA??? anyone got link??? !!!!
2012-08-26 13:16:18
Go to their site

esea.net (use google, really)

register, pay 6 dollars, play all you want.

Post edited 2012-08-26 19:54:11
2012-08-26 19:53:47
Do I have to speak german to play on those? Latency won't be an issue much I think, I usually ping around 15-30 ms to frankfurt location from central poland.
2012-08-26 22:22:57
nope

you can play on them just fine.
2012-08-26 22:27:22
why i cant pay per phone like is it in ESL Premium ;x
2012-08-26 22:43:48
why would you like to do that
its a rip off
2012-08-27 12:45:01
ESEA, WE ASIAN ARE WAITING . *cries out loud*
2012-08-28 06:49:30

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