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Ninjas in Pyjamas have overcome Team VeryGames in the final of DreamHack Valencia 2-0. The Swedes won de_nuke_ve 16-10 and de_train_se with a 16-12 score which brought them 2,500€ and the first significant title of their careers in the new game.
VeryGames had already shown against ASES earlier in the tournament that de_nuke was certainly not their best map, and they found themselves on back foot as NiP were on the driving seat for most of the map.
The Swedish team got off to a flying start and bagged the first five rounds. VG then finally managed to score their first round of the game, but their momentum was short lived, as NiP regained control of the match. Most of the remaining rounds went NiP's way, with the Swedes taking a comfortable 12-3 lead into half-time.
In the second half, NiP further increased the gap by winning the first two rounds, but a buying strategy from VeryGames in the third round paid off and inspired the French team to take the score to 14-8. But the Swedes were uninmpressed by VG's comeback and went on to secure the last two rounds they needed to win de_nuke 16-10.
Both teams then moved on to de_train, where VG were thought to have the upper hand due to their strong AWP play. But it was actually NiP who started out the better, winning the opening three rounds. VG then showed their sniping skills to put NiP's attacks to a hault, eventually taking the score to 5-3 in their favour. The last rounds went both ways, but VG were able to go into the second half with a narrow 8-7 lead.
Once again, NiP showed they were the better team in the pistol round to turn the score around to 10-8 in their favour. The remaining rounds went down to the wire, with Kenny "kennyS" Schrub picking up frag after frag, but not even the skilled French AWPer was enough to prevent NiP from winning the second map 16-12.
DreamHack Valencia final standings:
1. NiP - €2,500 + wildcard for DreamHack Winter
2. VeryGames - €1,250
3-4. x6tence - €625
3-4. k1ck - €625
In all seriousness, I believe VeryGames are tactically more superior than NiP at the moment. Their teamwork is more fluid than their Swedish counterpart, probably because CSS is more tactic demanding than 1.6 or simply because they have played together as a team for a long time. Seeing players like GeT_RiGhT, Xizt and f0rest boldly engage and force them into a classic gunfight is like a culture shock to them. That's just how 1.6ers are. Aim/individual skills above all.
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Post edited 2012-09-23 19:23:34
WP NiP :)
Post edited 2012-09-26 19:46:53
edit: for the stupids i mean the core of the team playing together for 4 years, not this 5 players.
Post edited 2012-09-23 16:03:38
moreover, they didn't play cs go as much as nip, wait dreamhack and eswc and we'll see which team is the best
remember that 13yo ukrainian kid playing some major tourney like 3 years ago
But it's hard for me to follow the frags like in Cs1.6 the models and the frags animations are like parts of the map :\
SUCK IT SAUCERS
also dont forget that the NiP's players have been playing the game for a few months now (not together ofc)
Guys were saying VG would rape NiP exactly because they came from SOURCE (which is same engine, similar game) and then, now, its an EXTREMELY DIFFERENT GAME!@!@!@
anyway gg both, great game
its best to ignore them
Post edited 2012-09-23 16:06:28
haters gonan hate, even weeks ago they said they wont never play this game nor watch it, and here we are, 15k people
great game :D
lan > internet
Post edited 2012-09-23 16:03:10
Anyway great game gj nip, I see a big rivalry here in the future , I think Vg tried to use to many tactics that they bought over from source.
Get right played sick to.
Post edited 2012-09-23 16:03:17
The beautiful thing in this game is that you will see many close games between 1.6 and Source top teams, just like we saw now - but I promise you that this game (VG vs NiP) was an horrible game.
Both teams will improve much more later on and master this game like they did in 1.6 & Source.
Well played , although I expect much more from both teams.
"It's way harder for a 1.6 player to switch to GO" Nice statement followed by today's actions.
Rage is bad, mmmk?
It's because their FPS skill is high.
A player from CS 1.5 can easily adjust to 1.6 (1.6 is almost a copy of 1.5, same engine and everything, just some movement differences)
A player from Q3 can also adjust to 1.6 given a bit of time
But the Q3 player will rape the 1.5 player because he has played an FPS game which requires more skill
Now did you get it?
How can you even do such a comparisson without being delusional as fuck? I played 1.5, Q3, 1.6, CSS, CS:GO it's goin' from one game to another, takes a couple of days to found out 99% of the things you have to learn and then it's just having fun playing your new game, is it so hard to understand? why does people do so much drama about a supposedly VERY HARD TO ADJUST/ADAPT TO A FUCKIN NEW GAME?!?!?!?
its just one more prove that 1.6 is mighty and css is just.. well yeah
and what if vg won that game? would we still need to "wait to see who is really the best"? i'm sure in that case you would state they are the best
By the way, kennyS is really good with awp! And that other guy from VG too, don't remember he's nickname.
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And personally I think the views were great
17,995 active players atm, and 15k viewers! That's impressive, and the game will still grow.
look at Flash, Jaedong, Rain, RoRo and REALITY.
Hell even Stork and JangBi are really good, + SoulKey.
also in sc2 is easy as fuck get to 200/200, most games hit that stage unlike BW that can finish much before 100/200.
give them BW playas time and they will destroy the SC2 pros, the difference in skill is not even funny.
Stick to your GO and CSS hatred - your pretty skilled/good at that.
Post edited 2012-09-23 17:17:47
No need to even discuss it with you since it sounds like you haven't got a clue about the two games.
Go bash some CSS-people and yell som more "1.6 forever"
Still, you will see when the BW pros bash some overhyped SC2 pros like Nestea or IdrA.
But you still bring up a point about BW-players which i was not commenting on at all and telling me "you will see". That is just wierd.
Post edited 2012-09-23 16:10:17
CSGO is close to Source when in reality it isn't.
sauce for noobs who just want graphics
so is go.
and yes, LAN >>> Internet, 1.6 >>> Source.
Much love from ex-cadred user <3
1 + 1 = ?
I'll tell you before hand, this community is MUCH larger than Cadred. Hence we have a lot of rage kids here. They are the ones who create a lot of useless threads like "X > Y", generate hate-threads and whatnot
Please don't judge us by that only
If you can ignore all that, you'll begin to enjoy this community more and more
Thanks anyway for the welcome.
i read so much
"VG gonna rape everyone" "VG best ev4r" "vg gods"
and now...where are you guys?
just a "different game" here and there... i am disappointed!
Yeah, we saw that.
...btw it was interessting back then...
yeah "not liking" is clearly a sign of "not knowing a shit about something"
iq test failed boy.
He was confident and they did it, also they have frag machines from "1.6"...
GL in the future
Post edited 2012-09-23 16:32:17
nip last round
I found even League Of Legends more tactical than Global Offensive currently.
The things I got to read sometimes...
VG are currently a team who have been playing CS:GO 6 weeks, with much less than half the play time of NiP on the game. VG will improve, but again it is a different game. They may never be the team they were in CS:S, no one knows this.
It was only trolls who honestly believed VG would rape NiP this tournament. If you were stupid enough to fall for the bait I feel for you.
it is same as Basketball. do you suck in it? go play Corfbal
CS:S = Corfbal
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You seem a cretin as none of your reply was relevant to what I replied about. I hope the day comes you are not socially retarded, I feel sorry for you.
1 thing is to dislike CS:GO, other thing completely different is to be disrespectfull every single...
1.6 players are just superior.
I can see that those skills you earned through years of training in 1.6 paid off and actually give us BIG advantage for us(1.6 players) to play this game on competitve level. well, when that time comes, then we'll see the same old navi, fnatic and esc going to compete(again) like they were during 1.6 glory times. Though that will not happen in short amount of time but it is very very possible for pro 1.6 team dominate and takeover cs:go in term of majority players in it playing competitively. :)
nothing taken from NiP they seems more prepared, im just looking forward to see what happens in the future.
NiP playing with 3 people most of the time , friberg was complete hole for the team.
If it wasn't for Get_rights amazing sense of actual team play nip would of lost because the 2 CSS guys had no sense of team play what so ever.
VG have really nice team play wich has transitioned from source but the game is way 2 random and their aiming isnt that good either.
And i am a 1.6 fan and i'm saying this game is horrible to watch.
Some positions on the map should be removed especially the tower that looks right at middle on train on outer bombside..
Smokes need nerfing they are way 2 dense to be used properly for either defensive purposes or attacking ones.
Some pistols need a nerf bat u cant just randomly shoot back and fort from miles and kill people with one bullet this is not Deserteagle.
Overall very boring final.
i guess only 1 thing can be said
this isn't the game that we needed
but the one that we DESERVED ....
Valve is too kind to a community that has 0 respect for them.
For both 1.6 community and source one.
Because source teams will fade now no one will remember them when every competent 1.6 player swaps over to CS:GO.
And 1.6 fans have to watch this dogshit game..
that is what happens, when "2nd league game players" compete with ELITE players
GOOD JOB NiP!
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Post edited 2012-09-23 20:38:43
VG would end in group stage if there would be teams like fnatic, NaVi, ECS playing CS:GO.
what I can`t understand?
maybe there is something YOU cannot understand ...
Post edited 2012-09-23 19:41:49
I'm sorry that you reach skill cap so quickly in your sauce, but contrary to popular belief csgo is no sauce.
Post edited 2012-09-23 19:38:50
1.6 top players are obviously used to aim for the hs while the source players seem to be more of a spraying type.
For real look at the match see how random kennyS is how bad the maps are designed and how bad smokes are for this game the way they are at the moment they do more harm then good for teams = useless thing.
VG can get good in 3months fine but getting beaten by a team thats 3 months old after u've played similar engine game for 4-5years with the same guys just proves that they are avarage gamers and nothing special.
NiP have 3 players friberg and fiflaren are yet to prove they are actually above medicore source players.
Basicly Get_right won single handedly today the game vs VG.
Now if you have no arguments at all please don't call my writings drivel or what ever you did above because you actually have no clue.
Post edited 2012-09-23 23:38:57
2) Learn to use the reply button.
3) Friberg and Fifflaren both were up there with the rest of the team, if anything f0rest was lacking.
Now calm down, retard.
Post edited 2012-09-24 10:16:57
for those who aren't familiar with VG , i can assure you that they will come back stronger at the next event
Actually, I tried to play GO and I found it's really another game. 1.6 stay more interesting, ecxept for money...