trace: "We will give [it] everything"
Time: 2012-10-10 20:14
Game: Counter-Strike 1.6

We caught up with fnatic's Danish superstar Martin "trace" Heldt in order to find out how the Black and Orange have been doing in China, what he thinks about CS:GO and CS:Online, and more.

As we haven't heard much from fnatic ever since Richard "Xizt" Landström departed for what he thinks to be greener pastures at NiP and CS:GO, we decided to find out how the team is doing.

There were many things to ask and we touched up on K1 League and CS: Online, CS:GO, fnatic's future and their change of in-game leader from the newly recruited Emil "FYRR73" Karlsson to Finn "karrigan" Andersen.

You recently placed second in group A at K1 League in Shanghai. What were you expecting going into the tournament? How was the entire event? Would you have rather finished the entire tournament at once instead of returning next month for the semi-finals?

 
To be honest I was expecting the group stage to run more smoothly, but the game took me by surprise and I realized that we had to adapt much more to this game than first expected. The event itself was good. We played our matches in a studio, with a normal tournament-style setup. The admins were helpful, even though they sometimes had trouble understanding us, which caused some small problems. It was cool that we only had to play one match every 2 days or so, which gave us the opportunity to experience China as well. About the structure I would say I am 50/50. We enjoyed our stay in China and would love to go back, but it is also tough traveling so much, and it was difficult for us to plan everything and some had to sacrifice some things at home, in order to go.    
 
What are the main differences between CS 1.6 and CS: Online? Why is the game so different that both you and Na`Vi struggled against what most would consider weaker opposition? How much would you actually estimate you have played the game in hours?
 
The maps are pretty much the same, except for tuscan. It is not possible to set any rates or bind anything and it feels like the game is lagging badly. I would compare it to playing with 100 ping in 1.6 plus the bullets do not hit exactly where you aim, which is why it is also difficult to tab-shoot with great precision, something we unfortunately rely on a lot. It is a struggle because you have to change the way you play. It is not possible to take out multiple enemies within seconds with few bullets, unless you are really random. You have to position yourself in other ways and play differently. It is hard to play against teams who know the better strategy for this game. Uhm I am not really sure but I believe we probably practiced like 15 maps total, since it is not that easy to find opponents. Adding that with deathmatch and official games I would say about 30 hours of playing.
 
Judging by your results at K1 League it seems like you're finally getting the hang of CS: Online, but you still have not yet defeated TyLoo. Do you have something specific planned for the Chinese giants if you are the face them in the grand finals late in October?
 
Not so far, because we immediately had to switch our focus back to 1.6. As you mentioned we finally feel more comfortable in CS:Online and we should have won the last match against Tyloo so we stay optimistic and we will try to come up with some new things, if we are going to face them in the final
 
During your stay in China you also visited Tehran for a promotional visit by MSI. How was Iran and is there anything you would like to share about that trip?
 
Iran was so awesome, probably the best trip I have been on. The venue was great and all the people there were very friendly, it was a nice atmosphere. They took so good care of us, it felt like we were kings. On top of that it was special to be in a country like Iran, I had no idea what to expect, since it is such a different culture than ours, but we were all happily surprised. Nothing in particular, it was just 5 incredible days and I am grateful that I had the chance to experience it. Big thanks to MSI and to all the people there!
 
With Counter-Strike 1.6 on the decline, the two events you'll be attending this month - PGS Portugal and DreamHack Bucharest - might be the last two real tournaments left for the game. How do you feel about this? Are you excited to give it your all one last time, and how has your preparation been affected by playing CSO and being in China?
 
It is so sad that this most likely will be the last two 1.6 events. This perfect game we all love so much has come to an end, because it is no longer profitable, but I guess that is just the way it is. I hate it. The game is so good and balanced, such a shame. Actually I am not that excited. It is too bad that we can't have one last tournament with all the best teams joining in for one last clash - I feel like that was the way it should have ended. Nevertheless we will of course give everything we have, since it still is one of the last, and I would love to be the winner of the last 1.6 tournaments. We have struggled a bit since we were gone for over 3 weeks, obviously. It is also hard to find practice so our preparations have been sloppy, but there is not that much we could have done to prevent it. In the matter of playing a different game I do not think it should affect us in a huge manor, it is after all pretty much the same game with the same settings.
 
According to an interview with Andreas "MODDII" Fridh on fnatic.com, the newly recruited Emil "FYRR73" Karlsson is no longer the in-game leader, but Finn "karrigan" Andersen has taken that role. Why the change, and how is it working out?
 
We changed because we had no time practice that much as a team. Us other 4 know how we play and how we want to play, and it was too big of a change to get a new tacleader right this moment, we tried the first matches in China and it was just simply too chaotic, so we made the change and it works well. Karrigan still needs to be more comfortable in the role, though, and we all try to help during the game.
 
Can you explain the main differences between Richard "Xizt" Landström and his replacement Karlsson for our readers? How about Landström and Andersen as in-game leaders?
 
It is tough to compare players, especially when I have only been playing with them for approximately one month each. I would say that FYRR73 is an extremely aggressive player in general, more than most players, which is probably the biggest difference. Xizt is very calm both as a player and a tacleader, which is the opposite of karrigan who is more dynamic and eager. Karrigan still needs experience but I think we are doing good and I am confident that we will make the right decisions as a team during our games. Furthermore I am glad it works out so well because we were afraid it would be a big problem when xizt left. 
 
fnatic.com's article about FYRR73 joining said you plan to attend DreamHack Winter. Have you tried Counter-Strike: Global Offensive yet, and if so, what do you think about the game? Does everyone share the same thoughts or is there a chance someone might not make the switch?
 
I have not really been playing it, only some time ago. So I cannot say much about it, but I hope it will be more competitive, which also seems to be the case. There are a lot of updates and tournament announcements, so it is going to be fun to see where it goes. I believe we are all ready to make the switch, but you never know if someone is going to quit. We will start playing it a lot after our last tournaments, since we have much to learn because we have not played it from the beginning.
 
Are you at all worried about being late in switching to CS:GO? Teams like NiP or VeryGames will have much more experience in the game by DreamHack Winter than your team and early on in the game that is likely to affect the results a lot. Should we expect to see fnatic competing for the title in CS:GO at DreamHack Winter or is it more like a test run in the new game?
 
I have no idea at all what to expect. I do not know anything about the teams or their skill level and how good we will be ourselves. At his moment I cannot see us as a top contender, but I might when Dreamhack is about to start. Obviously we are behind and it will most likely be kind of a big deal, but I am not particularly worried, since I am still ignorant towards pretty much everything. Fnatic always want to be a top contender and we will do our very best to go deep in the tournament. We are the best 1.6 team so we will see if it is possible for us to make the switch on such short notice, hopefully it is going to be fun.
 
cArn recently published his "So you want to be a progamer?" -guide. If you could add one thing to the list, what would it be? What helped shape your career the most?
 
I think the guide covers about everything but if I should mention one little thing it would be to always evaluate yourself and your team. Do not be afraid to make mistakes during practice. Find out what works and what does not, and discuss it with the team afterwards - this is how you will develop as a team and some might forget that and just play play and play without improving. I am not sure how to answer this question but I will try to say a few things. The friends I played with and had fun with, giving me the motivation to keep on playing when I was younger. Then I would say skill, luck and not being a total jackass. I was very childish in my teenage years, and nobody who does not know you, do not want to play with you, if you are just a little annoying kid! Basically I would say respect is the key thing, and being willing to learn. But of course you also need to be talented.    
 
Next up for you are two CS 1.6 tourneys in Portugal and Bucharest. How has preparation for these events been for you? Are you confident you are still the best Counter-Strike team with FYRR73 on the team?
 
Not good at all, unfortunately. Teams are rarely playing anymore, so most teams are probably poorly prepared. I do not think these events will show the top level of any of the teams competing. We still need to get FYRR73 into the team, so it is hard to say but nevertheless I expect us to go all the way, since fnatic have proved to be the best team right now.

To be honest I was expecting the group stage to run more smoothly, but the game took me by surprise and I realized that we had to adapt much more to this game than first expected.

The event itself was good. We played our matches in a studio, with a normal tournament-style setup. The admins were helpful, even though they sometimes had trouble understanding us, which caused some small problems. It was cool that we only had to play one match every 2 days or so, which gave us the opportunity to experience China as well.

About the structure I would say I am 50/50. We enjoyed our stay in China and would love to go back, but it is also tough traveling so much, and it was difficult for us to plan everything and some had to sacrifice some things at home, in order to go.    

What are the main differences between CS 1.6 and CS: Online? Why is the game so different that both you and Na`Vi struggled against what most would consider weaker opposition? How much would you actually estimate you have played the game in hours?

The maps are pretty much the same, except for tuscan. It is not possible to set any rates or bind anything and it feels like the game is lagging badly. I would compare it to playing with 100 ping in 1.6 plus the bullets do not hit exactly where you aim, which is why it is also difficult to tap-shoot with great precision, something we unfortunately rely on a lot.

It is a struggle because you have to change the way you play. It is not possible to take out multiple enemies within seconds with few bullets, unless you are really random. You have to position yourself in other ways and play differently. It is hard to play against teams who know the better strategy for this game.

Uhm I am not really sure but I believe we probably practiced like 15 maps total, since it is not that easy to find opponents. Adding that with deathmatch and official games I would say about 30 hours of playing.


fnatic happy after GameGune victory in July 

Judging by your results at K1 League it seems like you're finally getting the hang of CS: Online, but you still have not defeated TyLoo. Do you have something specific planned for the Chinese giants if you are to face them in the grand finals late in October?

Not so far, because we immediately had to switch our focus back to 1.6. As you mentioned we finally feel more comfortable in CS:Online and we should have won the last match against Tyloo, so we stay optimistic and we will try to come up with some new things, if we are going to face them in the final.

During your stay in China you also visited Tehran for a promotional visit by MSI. How was Iran and is there anything you would like to share about that trip?

Iran was so awesome, probably the best trip I have been on. The venue was great and all the people there were very friendly, it was a nice atmosphere. They took so good care of us, it felt like we were kings. On top of that it was special to be in a country like Iran, I had no idea what to expect, since it is such a different culture than ours, but we were all happily surprised. Nothing in particular, it was just 5 incredible days and I am grateful that I had the chance to experience it. Big thanks to MSI and to all the people there!

With Counter-Strike 1.6 on the decline, the two events you'll be attending this month - PGS Portugal and DreamHack Bucharest - might be the last two real tournaments left for the game. How do you feel about this? Are you excited to give it your all one last time, and how has your preparation been affected by playing CSO and being in China?

It is so sad that this most likely will be the last two 1.6 events. This perfect game we all love so much has come to an end, because it is no longer profitable, but I guess that is just the way it is. I hate it. The game is so good and balanced, such a shame. Actually I am not that excited. It is too bad that we can't have one last tournament with all the best teams joining in for one last clash - I feel like that was the way it should have ended.

Nevertheless we will of course give everything we have, since it still is one of the last, and I would love to be the winner of the last 1.6 tournaments. We have struggled a bit since we were gone for over 3 weeks, obviously. It is also hard to find practice so our preparations have been sloppy, but there is not that much we could have done to prevent it. In the matter of playing a different game I do not think it should affect us in a huge manner, it is after all pretty much the same game with the same settings.


trace and his fnatic are still trying to figure out CS: Online for K1 League playoffs (Photo: 5eplay.com)

According to an interview with Andreas "MODDII" Fridh on fnatic.com, the newly recruited Emil "FYRR73" Karlsson is no longer the in-game leader, but Finn "karrigan" Andersen has taken that role. Why the change, and how is it working out?

We changed because we had no time practice that much as a team. Us other 4 know how we play and how we want to play, and it was too big of a change to get a new tacleader right this moment, we tried the first matches in China and it was just simply too chaotic, so we made the change and it works well. Karrigan still needs to be more comfortable in the role, though, and we all try to help during the game.

Can you explain the main differences between Richard "Xizt" Landström and his replacement Karlsson for our readers? How about Landström and Andersen as in-game leaders?

It is tough to compare players, especially when I have only been playing with them for approximately one month each. I would say that FYRR73 is an extremely aggressive player in general, more than most players, which is probably the biggest difference.

Xizt is very calm both as a player and a tacleader, which is the opposite of karrigan who is more dynamic and eager. Karrigan still needs experience but I think we are doing good and I am confident that we will make the right decisions as a team during our games. Furthermore I am glad it works out so well because we were afraid it would be a big problem when Xizt left. 

fnatic.com's article about FYRR73 joining said you plan to attend DreamHack Winter. Have you tried Counter-Strike: Global Offensive yet, and if so, what do you think about the game? Does everyone share the same thoughts or is there a chance someone might not make the switch?

I have not really been playing it, only some time ago. So I cannot say much about it, but I hope it will be more competitive, which also seems to be the case. There are a lot of updates and tournament announcements, so it is going to be fun to see where it goes.

I believe we are all ready to make the switch, but you never know if someone is going to quit. We will start playing it a lot after our last tournaments, since we have much to learn because we have not played it from the beginning.


Black and Orange in action in Shanghai with FYRR73 on the squad
 (Photo: 5eplay.com)

Are you at all worried about being late in switching to CS:GO? Teams like NiP or VeryGames will have much more experience in the game by DreamHack Winter than your team and early on in the game that is likely to affect the results a lot. Should we expect to see fnatic competing for the title in CS:GO at DreamHack Winter or is it more like a test run in the new game?

I have no idea at all what to expect. I do not know anything about the teams or their skill level and how good we will be ourselves. At this moment I cannot see us as a top contender, but I might when Dreamhack is about to start. Obviously we are behind and it will most likely be kind of a big deal, but I am not particularly worried, since I am still ignorant towards pretty much everything.

Fnatic always want to be a top contender and we will do our very best to go deep in the tournament. We are the best 1.6 team so we will see if it is possible for us to make the switch on such short notice, hopefully it is going to be fun.

cArn recently published his "So you want to be a progamer?" -guide. If you could add one thing to the list, what would it be? What helped shape your career the most?

I think the guide covers about everything but if I should mention one little thing it would be to always evaluate yourself and your team. Do not be afraid to make mistakes during practice. Find out what works and what does not, and discuss it with the team afterwards - this is how you will develop as a team and some might forget that and just play play and play without improving.

I am not sure how to answer this question but I will try to say a few things. The friends I played with and had fun with, giving me the motivation to keep on playing when I was younger. Then I would say skill, luck and not being a total jackass. I was very childish in my teenage years, and nobody who does not know you, do not want to play with you, if you are just a little annoying kid! Basically I would say respect is the key thing, and being willing to learn. But of course you also need to be talented.

Next up for fnatic are two CS 1.6 tourneys in Portugal and Bucharest. How has preparation for these events been for you? Are you confident you are still the best Counter-Strike team with FYRR73 in the lineup?

Not good at all, unfortunately. Teams are rarely playing anymore, so most teams are probably poorly prepared. I do not think these events will show the top level of any of the teams competing.

We still need to get FYRR73 into the team, so it is hard to say but nevertheless I expect us to go all the way, since fnatic have proved to be the best team right now.

HLTV.org will be on-site at PGS in Oporto on October 11-14 and in Romania for DreamHack Bucharest on October 20-21, where fnatic will attend possibly the final Counter-Strike 1.6 tournaments.

Tags: trace

intresting
2012-10-10 20:15:25
Indeed
2012-10-10 20:16:49
you're fast reader
2012-10-10 22:14:23
hahah 1 minutes to read all the article ?!! lol
or maybe "interesting" was for the pictures :DD
2012-10-11 12:36:40
lool
2012-10-15 17:25:19
u read 2fast D:
2012-10-14 19:41:02
by: qu1k`
#2
nice!
Trace great person and player!

Post edited 2012-10-10 20:24:09
2012-10-10 20:16:09
+1
2012-10-10 20:54:41
trace is not skeptical about CS:GO. So fnatic will dominating in GO as well
2012-10-10 20:16:38
by: qu1k`
#8
Too big gap between them and NiP or VG already, as their players have like 500-700 HRS in game.
2012-10-10 20:25:31
VG players have only 150-300hours, and nip have 300-500. It's not that much imo
2012-10-10 20:36:36
not gonna matter after 1 year
2012-10-10 21:30:16
+1, but what if they're not going to play that 1 year, cause of they may wrongly think they are weaker in csgo, actually just being less in-game than others are.
2012-10-10 21:48:46
i hope csgo wont stick around for more than 2 years tbh :)
2012-10-10 21:50:53
Why not? What do you want instead?

CSP and CS 1.6 will not return. So what do you wish for?
2012-10-10 23:20:17
i wish for a good multiplayer fps game, that wouldnt use the name counterstike to get people to buy it
2012-10-10 23:44:51
+1 billion
2012-10-11 02:29:09
csgo doesn't have to disappear even in such a case. It's not bothering other fps to be good. And maybe, csgo will be one of those good fps. If go disappears, then it's not a reason to celebrate, cause as HoegeN said, it doesn't mean 1.6 or csp's return. Then there will be nothing.
2012-10-11 09:33:06
what steam did with csgo is not right (#54), and i dont want bad things to exist. it might not harm other fps communities, but it is wrong in itself.
2012-10-11 10:18:31
LOLOL omfg most hilarious post of the year. you speak of GO like it is a disease or something AHAHAH
2012-10-11 22:35:46
i speak of the way modern companies do bussiness.
2012-10-11 23:06:19
Too bad, its called economy.
2012-10-11 23:12:25
Let CS die and COD:GO taken over the slot
2012-10-11 14:05:14
for game skills, I don't think there are any differences between each player after 200 play hours.
2012-10-11 03:55:04
by:
#12
Well fnatic 2009/2010 lineup was around the scene for much longer than the Na'Vi guys, yet Na'Vi dominated.
2012-10-10 20:45:44
Na'Vi was founded in the end of 2009 (december)
They were dominating in 2009?
Its a whole level of fanboyism
2012-10-10 20:55:31
by:
#59
Can you read? Did I said they dominated in 2009?

Am I the fanboy? "So fnatic will dominating in GO as well".
2012-10-11 00:16:24
All of them played CS for at least 5 years, fnatic have played probably 10 hours of CS:GO in the other hand NiP attended a lan event and some online ones and have like 400 hours on CS:GO. Whats the difference?
2012-10-10 21:47:15
by:
#60
?

Yea they had atleast 5 years of CS, but I'm pretty sure guys like dsn, f0rest, cArn and GeT_RiGhT had more years.
2012-10-11 00:17:29
by:
#62
Btw, you didn't understood what I wrote, because my point exactly is that there IS NO difference.
2012-10-11 00:19:24
Well its not like Navi started playing in 2010...
2012-10-10 22:50:15
by:
#61
Well it's not like I said that.
2012-10-11 00:17:56
then that doesnt make any sense lol
2012-10-11 00:57:51
by:
#64
read #8.
2012-10-11 01:36:21
its not gonna matter in some time lol.
2012-10-11 14:54:01
by:
#86
Exactly.
2012-10-11 19:17:19
Then why you told me to read 8 if you dont agree with him? ^^
2012-10-11 21:10:27
by:
#90
My reply was meant to him, my original one.
2012-10-11 22:30:43
so? that makes a difference in the begining, once u grasp recoil and some other stuff it doesnt matter. I'm pretty sure many noobs have 76082739482740823 1.6 hours and still, its the fnatic players who are in fnatic.
2012-10-10 21:03:04
don't know, i think NiP will dominate for a few months, imo
2012-10-11 21:50:06
GL
2012-10-10 20:19:35
Nice interview. Good questions and the answers are definitely on par too. Looking forward to see them in action again!
2012-10-10 20:24:43
hope to see him personaly in Porto !
2012-10-10 20:31:39
They will be so behind NiP and other teams, so dumb.
2012-10-10 21:03:34
that's a stupid misconception, the game will be so different in half a year-a year so it barely matters..
2012-10-10 21:16:07
<3
2012-10-10 21:05:11
Big respect for trace, hopefully fnatic will kick ass in CS:GO, then I'd have a reason to watch the game.
2012-10-10 21:15:29
I understood the whole swedish pride message but what's wrong in rooting for NiP ?
2012-10-10 21:18:22
fnatic is danish these days so if it would've been about swedish pride it would've been more logical to root for NiP. Anyways, I've been a huge fnatic/cArn-fan since 2007, the year I started with CS, and I also think that GeT_RiGhT is a twat and I see no reason to root for the Sourceplayers since I don't have any connection to them what so ever (never watched their games, they come from a community I dislike etc).

I have huge respect for f0rest and Xizt tho, especially the latter. I kinda like HeatoN, but he has made some very stupid comments recently so I don't like him as much as I used too.


Post edited 2012-10-10 21:27:17
2012-10-10 21:25:32
that is RIDICULOUS!!
2012-10-10 22:17:32
what is ridiculous?
2012-10-10 22:27:32
that wasn't ridiculous, you're opinion is the same as mine, you're truthfull.

I agree with you, imo
2012-10-11 21:51:29
You'll give it everything huh? Only for f0rest to take that everything away and crush it.
Sorry brah, f0rest too strong.
2012-10-10 21:25:19
dat 412k acc
2012-10-10 21:34:35
And what is that supposed to mean?
2012-10-10 21:40:06
intentionally create a new account and do all the fanboy action
2012-10-11 14:09:37
Last 2 events?

What's up with ASUS Final battle of the year?
2012-10-10 21:40:12
Nice read, gl in the future fnatic!
2012-10-10 21:45:31
Hope ESC,NA'VI,fnatic will destroy NIP.
2012-10-10 21:49:55
nice, gl.
2012-10-10 21:55:10
nice trace <3

hopefully fnatic will switch to CS:GO
2012-10-10 22:11:09
did u read the interview?
2012-10-10 22:17:55
yes?
2012-10-10 22:18:17
They will play CS:GO in DH Winter, yes they will make a switch
2012-10-10 23:28:27
no you fool they are playing 1.6 in dh winter read again. they are switching to cs:go after dh winter
2012-10-11 01:54:15
bro, maybe you've been traveling for some time but let me tell you something.

There will be no 1.6 tournament in Dreamhack Winter
2012-10-11 02:34:39
so? the DH BUCHAREST qualy's was played for nothing? ..............................................................
2012-10-11 14:27:43
There will be the 1.6 tournament in DH Bucharest, but it will give a spot in the CS:GO DH Winter tournament
2012-10-11 16:09:55
<3 1.6
2012-10-10 22:24:58
nice!! :D
2012-10-10 22:55:55
trace u r my idol with markeloff ofc!
1.6 4life!

Post edited 2012-10-10 22:56:51
2012-10-10 22:56:30
ZEEEEUUUUUUUUSSSS! ! !
2012-10-10 23:34:16
Strong words trace. *Hint* Moving onto CS:GO? *Hint*???
2012-10-10 23:50:13
Gl Trace
2012-10-10 23:51:46
glad to hear that you enjoyed your time in Iran.
2012-10-11 00:04:51
I like his honesty in the interview. Looking forward to seeing trace and his teammates battle it out in 1.6 a few more times. Like he said, it's too sad that it has to come to end (but all good things must, right?).
2012-10-11 02:06:56
by: BiG-
#70
nice read
2012-10-11 05:08:51
CS 1.6!!!
2012-10-11 05:44:12
It is too bad that we can't have one last tournament with all the best teams joining in for one last clash - I feel like that was the way it should have ended. traceFFF .. respect!
2012-10-11 06:21:40
you can edit post, why new post?
2012-10-11 10:50:09
yep, that would be awesome
2012-10-12 11:01:16
nice! fnatic.CS:GO
in half a year, everyone will play it
btw game is fine! I like it
2012-10-11 11:17:38
Lol, that pic with Zeus)).
2012-10-11 11:38:27
gL

Post edited 2012-10-11 14:29:34
2012-10-11 14:28:16
Wow Iran is a nicer place than China.
2012-10-11 23:15:32
I say SK, Navi and ESC were best in 1.6. its just fnatic won last 2 tourneys, doesnt make them no.1 in 1.6. Anyways all r into cs go. lets see who will be No.1
2012-10-12 19:14:45
which sk are you talking about theyve had like 1000 diferent lineups
2012-10-17 01:42:30
oh no long long article ! it is more difficult than CET 6 and GRE . god bless me
2012-10-17 02:30:15

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