Neo: "So random we can beat anyone"
By: MIRAA
Time: 2012-10-12 19:32
Event: PGS 2012
Game: Counter-Strike 1.6

We sat down with place2play.ru stand-in Filip "Neo" Kubski following his team's 2-0 victory against GamerHouse in the ProGamerSeries group stage.

The Russia-based side have progressed to the PGS semi-finals after beating exotic and GamerHouse and losing to fnatic, with the team now waiting to find out whether they will meet Natus Vincere or Anexis in their next game.

This will most likely be the last 1.6 tournament in which Kubski will participate, after ESC Gaming decided to switch to CS:GO earlier in the month.

In this interview, Kubski talks about the experience of playing alongside Russian players and the upcoming semi-finals, and he also admits that CS:GO is not as bad as he may have suggested.

place2play.ru came second in the group, with two victories and one defeat. Are you happy with your team's performances?

Yes, I think this is what we expected, we know that we are learning new stuff after every game, because I am trying to get to know the Russian names for positions on the maps and all that. Every game is giving us a lot, so it is good that the group matches were played in best of three.

You had some very close games against exotic and GamerHouse. Did you expect them to play this well?

I did not expect them to be as good as they were, but I knew they could give us a hard time, because we do not have that much team work yet.

What has it been like with the team? I noticed that most of the times, you are just sitting in your corner, while the other players are speaking Russian with each other. Has the communication with the other players been difficult for you?

No, I just listen to what they are saying and I understand a lot of it. Sometimes, if I do not understand, I just ask and they explain it to me in English, so it is not that bad. It is pretty easy if you know the positions in Russian and simple words that explain what is happening during the game. I think it is okay.

You will now face either Natus Vincere or Anexis. Do you think you can beat a team like Na´Vi?

I think we are so random that we can beat anyone, but we also can lose to anyone. Anything can happen. It is totally random, to be honest.

Talking about CS:GO now, are you confident that you will get one of the invites for the ESWC?

I am not sure, but I hope we will get the invite. I have no idea what is going to happen.

Considering you have been playing CS:GO for some time now, do you think that you are still at your best level, as far as 1.6 is concerned?

Before TECHLABS, we practiced CS:GO a lot, and it felt like playing this game allowed us to keep our level. After this event, we had a small break, that is probably the reason that I have been playing a bit random, but practicing CS:GO gives you some skill in 1.6 and vice-versa.

You do not seem to have a great opinion about CS:GO, and neither does TaZ. Aren't you worried that someone from the team may lose the motivation to play the game and eventually quit?

It is not as bad as we say in interviews. When I try playing the game on public servers, it sucks and I do not enjoy it. But when you play with a team, or in gathers, it is actually not that bad, it is pretty okay and pretty entertaining sometimes, so I think that after some time we will get used to it. Before TECHLABS, we went to play 1.6 after practicing CS:GO for like two weeks, and we noticed how ugly the game is and how nice CS:GO looks. I think both games have pros and cons. It is not as bad as we use to say.

In your previous interview, you said you would like to see some changes to CS:GO. Can you mention some of them?

I did not like the movement, because it did not feel reliable, like when you jumped. But now it has changed, so you can actually do some bunny jumps and all that. I also do not like the maps, like de_train or de_inferno. I have seen some other versions of those maps that are okay, so I think what happened to de_nuke should happen to those maps. I also think they should ban Molotov, that is like the shield in 1.6.


no neo, don't switch to csgo.
2012-10-12 19:34:47
Whole ESC switched to csgo.
2012-10-12 19:40:48
yes ofcourse he should!
I want to see more of him, and 1.6 has went down the drain, so Id rather watch him play GO than nothing at all
2012-10-12 19:41:16
+1
2012-10-12 19:46:01
+1
2012-10-12 19:53:03
+1
2012-10-12 20:54:08
he plays lol :D
2012-10-13 00:42:50
Well that i never touched and never watch :p
2012-10-13 09:53:26
too late
2012-10-12 19:49:58
yes, neo should just stay with 1.6 and we can watch the same couple teams play each other forever and ever. 1.6 will never ever die and neo will always play it until his dying day. in fact, neo will die before cs 1.6 dies. eventually, neo will play de_dust2 so many times that the chances of him playing the exact same game will eventually happen. when neo dies, esc will keep it a secret and just play replays on neo playing and the fans will think it's live, so his legacy forever lives on in cs 1.6.
2012-10-13 02:48:35
+1
2012-10-13 07:26:46
this
2012-10-13 08:46:10
What other FPS can he play? What a selfish comment lol.
2012-10-13 07:28:37
Nice!
2012-10-12 19:35:49
NEO DA KING
2012-10-12 19:46:59
1.6 termed ugly :-(
2012-10-12 19:47:51
CS is like mothers. they were once beautifull creatures but now they are saggy and old :D
2012-10-12 19:49:25
didnt kno every mother is saggy and old, thank you
2012-10-12 20:23:41
well far from every, but at some point they all become it. much like CS
2012-10-12 20:27:11
CS 1.6 is nowadays like an old wife, just old and in the way, for CS:GO to fully get the community, that 1.6 has :D
2012-10-12 20:54:47
xD
2012-10-12 21:39:06
yet you love them all the same!
2012-10-12 21:46:35
:D true that <3
2012-10-12 23:06:01
i believe he said that in terms of graphic which is true but the gameplay in 1.6 is the best:)
2012-10-12 19:52:42
And it is (graphically ofc), but that's how people say "The love is blind", so we don't care about it's visual beauty
2012-10-12 20:01:56
n1 fella
2012-10-13 13:33:35
n1
2012-10-12 19:50:14
gl neo in cs 1.6, cs go and...leauge of legends ;)
2012-10-12 19:52:00
by: Dare_Dev1L - HLTV.org
#14
I have to agree that CS:GO is a lot different in matches than it is in public servers, even though I still prefer 1.6 I really don't consider CS:GO that bad as people say when you start playing actual matches.
2012-10-12 19:53:07
as a source player, i enjoyed watching and playing 1.6 regularly, and im not gonna say its a shame that both scenes are relatively dead, as that wouldnt do it justice, they both had their moments, its time to move on and play csgo, which i hated in beta, but now i love it :)
2012-10-12 19:59:11
i dont know why my comment was erase because i just kidding with the guy, didnt notice the ":)" @ the end? ffs! the ones u should erase u dont...
2012-10-13 00:07:17
I agree with the molotov coment.
In my opinion it slows alot the game that sometimes is allready slow because of the tatic, so it becomes ultra slow :/
2012-10-12 19:57:35
by: hmmr
#17
good words neo! :D
2012-10-12 19:57:58
I respect your decision Neo and I'm OVER THE MOON you will play CS:GO instead of LoL.
I am looking forward to see you dominating.
Good luck irl and ingame as well.
Props :)
2012-10-12 19:59:01
Srs molotovs suck balls ,all tournaments should dissable them
2012-10-12 20:02:08
Aircontrol needs to be in the game, and the kneebending when you land needs to go.
2012-10-12 20:06:10
+1 this!
2012-10-13 04:47:23
In this interview, Kubski talks about the experience of playing alongside Russian players and the upcoming semi-finals, and he also admits that CS:GO is not as bad as he may have suggested.

Haha I guess my interpretation was right then. He wasn't into the game.

http://www.hltv.org/forum/191016-neo-quotlacking-s..

And now you revise your words only for the sake of competition, Neo.
2012-10-12 20:08:34
You really only see what you want to see, don't you?
2012-10-12 20:26:36
At first I thought this quote is about the game...
2012-10-12 20:19:48
Hey HLTV.org I always wondered, why do you sit down when taking interviews?
2012-10-12 20:30:17
Made my day :-D

Also, there are no video-views like it used to be previously. Budget cut as 1.6 died off? Was just wondering.
2012-10-13 08:54:04
neo best
2012-10-12 20:31:19
1.6 is dead when there is nobody who plays it..
But i like to watch CS:GO Streams and i like what i see..
Just as Neo says about inferno and train..
Train on CS:GO looks just like CS:S version.. Not much have changed and inferno just like CS:S but without a window where u can peak with a awp if u are Terrorist..
Those who plays source knows what window i'm talk about..

But yeah.. CS:GO might be something if they keep changeing it to a better game and listen to the "pro" players!
2012-10-12 20:35:28
What the actual fuck.. de_train in CS:GO looks -> NOTHING <- like de_train in CS:S.. de_train in CS:GO is a fucking clusterfuck of shit.. how can you even manage to spout such pure bullshit?
2012-10-12 21:24:25
welcome to hltv
2012-10-12 23:12:55
Been here since the dawn of day (user #724), but people never cease to amaze me ;D
2012-10-13 00:03:18
" Before TECHLABS, we went to play 1.6 after practicing CS:GO for like two weeks, and we noticed how ugly the game is and how nice CS:GO looks."

If a pro players words don't satisfy you, I don't know what could.
2012-10-12 22:09:08
++++++++++++++++++++++++1
2012-10-12 22:21:24
by: raiT
#65
But I think he referred to the graphics.

The 1.6 gameplay is still much better
2012-10-12 23:19:20
1.6 gameplay is better because we played since 2003.. everybody can say that it's easier because we got used with it.
CS:GO has been released few months ago, not all the 1.6 community played it to talk about gameplay, that's why they throw bad feedback. I would say to wait 1 or 2 years, so all the community play CS:GO and then I think they will be pro CS:GO, not against.
2012-10-12 23:29:13
by: FliE
#67
You know why CoD never took off as a competitive title?

Because the skill ceiling is too low, due to a number of reasons. The fact that the games look nice is not enough, nor is it a question of being used to something.

1.6 wasn't perfect, but all the imperfections became core parts of the game with time, and by some crazy luck, they all ended up being things that raised the skill ceiling even further. Anyone can abuse bugs in the game engine, but in CS, these bugs/imperfections became things like air control, quick scope, duck jump, ruswalk, boosting, smoke nade fakes etc. All things that newcomers can't use properly, but good players can. Even something extremely simple like climbing the ladders is done completely differently if you compare an experienced player to a newcomer.

These are also the things that make CS a great game. Anyone can learn the core mechanics in a day, and camping around a corner for someone to come isn't hard. Mastering all the different "hidden" aspects of the game is what it's all about, and when these things are stripped, CS becomes really rather casual and easy. Which is something all FPS-titles of today and of the future will lack, because of the extreme polishing, and because of this, no FPS now or in the future will have the longetivity and skill ceiling of the original Counter-Strike.

The AWP-kill at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txZGsaS-p80&t=6.. is the best example of something that I can think of right now that shows how someone very experienced can think of a way to use the flaws in the engine to their advantage. And mind you, I'm not even one of the better players, just experienced. Just a simple kill, but something you can't replicate in CS:GO or CoD.

It's not that bad of a game, but I don't think it has much future as a competitive FPS.
2012-10-12 23:55:32
Carmac, you should re-login.

P.S.: Completely agree.
2012-10-13 08:52:20
I love you.
2012-10-13 14:55:38
wise man Neo
2012-10-12 22:14:43
How much money did Valve pay neo to say so ?
2012-10-13 00:36:10
The movement in GO hurts neo soooo much more than any other player in the world. He is the king of movement and execution in 1.6 yet it all goes out the window in GO and any average player can have just as good movement as him.
2012-10-13 07:03:56
Neo such a cool guy!
2012-10-13 09:46:41
what, no "neo sold out" comments?
2012-10-13 12:09:31
I appreciate what Neo started to do for the whole community.
2012-10-13 13:09:58
neo saying it only so they get invited. they dont wanna teams that hate on cs:go!

neo traitor
2012-10-13 14:23:38
How dare him liking something new and different.

traitor, valve payoff!
2012-10-13 17:43:03

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