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fnatic see off Na`Vi to win PGS
In what was most likely the last major final in CS 1.6 history, fnatic have once again overcome Natus Vincere (18-22 on de_train and 16-13 on de_dust2 and 16-5 on de_tuscan), thereby winning PGS and taking home the 9,000€ cheque.
The match began on de_train, where fnatic got off to a good start as Terrorists and picked up the opening four rounds. Na´Vi responded immediately after that and showed some good positioning for the remainder of the first half to go into half-time with a 10-5 lead.
In the second half, Andreas "MODDII" Fridh inspired fnatic to a sensational start, with the Scandinavian side taking the score all the way to 15-10, but then spurned the five map points they had as Na´Vi levelled the game on 15 rounds before winning the overtime 4-0.
de_dust2 was the second map, and once again fnatic came out the stronger, only to see Na´Vi pull off a comeback. This time around, the Ukrainians went into the second half up 9-6, and little did both teams know about what was going to happen next.
With the score 2-0 in favour of the Danes, the internet at the venue went down because of a Ddos attack, and soon after that, two players from Na´Vi and one from fnatic got disconnected from the server half way through the round. After a heated discussion about what the solution, it was decided that the third round, which fnatic won, would not count, and that Friis would get $6,000 because he had an AWP, while all of the other players would be given $4,500. Some close rounds then followed, but in the end fnatic managed to win the map 16-13 to level the tie.
The final map was de_tuscan, where Na´Vi had already shown against Anexis that they had some problems. fnatic knew this and pulled off an impressive performance, sealing a 16-5 victory after winning the first half 14-1.
Match statistics:
PGS 2012 CS 1.6 final standings:
1.
fnatic - €9,000
2.Natus Vincere - €4,000
3.
Tags: Natus Vincere, fnatic
gg
2012-10-15 02:10:09
Now the 1.6 is officialy dead...
2012-10-15 06:39:15
DH bucharest
2012-10-15 08:23:19
Yeah, but without Na`Vi
2012-10-15 11:35:07
so what?
2012-10-15 12:37:07
So that, name high skilled teams who will appear there.
2012-10-15 15:08:06
acctually there is only one pro skilled team now and thats fnatic :) NaVi is a peace of shit.
2012-10-15 16:43:38
Yes of course. Everybody knows about fnatic. But I meant that pro teams are left only few (These two finalists, Anexis and Wikipediots). I do't think that these teams won't switch to CS:GO because this is them jobs, and they are there, where money is.
2012-10-15 18:42:22
You couldn't even kill any of the NaVi players if they were AFK, son.
2012-10-15 19:46:58
Could you do it? Dont talk shits pls.
2012-10-15 23:25:25
Did he say he could? Fucking idiot. You are the fucking lowest player ever to call NAVI "peace of shit". GTFO
2012-10-15 23:59:17
Don't talk shit please? So you are the only one allowed to talk shit? You are only 1 person out of 7 billion on this earth, don't make yourself look too important cuz you are actually lower than shit.
If you post shit, you get shit posten back, that's how life goes.
If you post shit, you get shit posten back, that's how life goes.
2012-10-16 13:16:21
okay fan from 3rd world country
2012-10-17 18:29:48
Says the guy who is from Slovenia.
That was a pathetic combeack, kiddo.
That was a pathetic combeack, kiddo.
2012-10-17 21:52:01
retard?
2012-10-16 10:33:23
Gaming fest
2012-10-15 10:53:02
delete
Post edited 2012-10-15 12:13:59
Post edited 2012-10-15 12:13:59
2012-10-15 12:12:57
ok kid
2012-10-15 17:52:54
Ok arabic man, you're the boss, you know who is kid.
2012-10-15 20:49:48
ARABIC AND PROUD
An 18 years old kid talkin shit about 1.6, you're probably one of those unskilled kids with glaces, runing behind cs:GO
Don't try to reply please !
Post edited 2012-10-16 11:46:50
An 18 years old kid talkin shit about 1.6, you're probably one of those unskilled kids with glaces, runing behind cs:GO
Don't try to reply please !
Post edited 2012-10-16 11:46:50
2012-10-16 11:46:23
+1
2012-10-15 18:01:14
GG FNATIC!!
2012-10-15 02:10:14
GZ fnatic well deserved
2012-10-15 02:10:20
ggwp ALL :)
2012-10-15 02:10:28
Worst cs tournament of all time. Waisted 9 hours on this shit and only see 1.5 maps.
2012-10-15 02:10:57
Same. I watched only 1.5 map. Worst tournament ever
2012-10-15 10:16:05
Did you took ur pillz ? i guess no !
2012-10-16 11:49:26
asian humor? don't do it on public
2012-10-17 06:22:59
gg
2012-10-15 02:11:14
To MIRAA: "In what was most likely the last major final in CS 1.6 history"
You forgot about Dreamhack Bucharest :D
You forgot about Dreamhack Bucharest :D
2012-10-15 02:11:41
"major"
I wouldn't really call fnatic vs Anexis a "major" final :)
I wouldn't really call fnatic vs Anexis a "major" final :)
2012-10-15 02:14:18
Well as sad as it is there's no other top teams at DH. So this prolly was the last major final in the game. So sad we didn't see it
2012-10-15 02:14:19
that's what you get markeloff, that's what you get when you don't say "thank you" when i said "good luck for the final" :( :( :( :( AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2012-10-15 02:11:44
what? xD
2012-10-15 02:13:03
hey look at me, i talked to Markeloff
2012-10-15 02:27:06
atleast we saw epic 3rd place decider. the final was a fucking joke without hltv ip's or working stream.
2012-10-15 02:12:57
+1 the 3rd place decider was the final for me.
2012-10-15 14:24:38
although the final had some major internet problems that took a big delay in the game, i think fnatic showed they deserved the 9000€!
Well played fnatic, and well played the other 3 teams that took the following places! Na'Vi, Anexis and Place2Play. They showed some very good performances and top class hightlights to history of CS 1.6!! ;)
GG PGS too!
Well played fnatic, and well played the other 3 teams that took the following places! Na'Vi, Anexis and Place2Play. They showed some very good performances and top class hightlights to history of CS 1.6!! ;)
GG PGS too!
2012-10-15 02:12:59
fnatic<3
2012-10-15 02:13:11
The works cs tournamente of all time.
2012-10-15 02:13:16
exactly, the works cs tournamente.
2012-10-15 02:23:48
This happens fucking troll, read below and you will se that i fixed my error
2012-10-15 04:53:12
People still care and watch 1.6 but sadly no major event gives a damn... really sad.. 1.6 Ftw
I THINK NAVI LOST THE TOUCH AFTER THE 2nd MAP DUE TO ALL THE DELAYS OR ELSE THEY COULD HAVE EASILY WON D2 AND ATLAST IT WAS A BAD FINAL
Post edited 2012-10-15 02:14:20
I THINK NAVI LOST THE TOUCH AFTER THE 2nd MAP DUE TO ALL THE DELAYS OR ELSE THEY COULD HAVE EASILY WON D2 AND ATLAST IT WAS A BAD FINAL
Post edited 2012-10-15 02:14:20
2012-10-15 02:13:35
and fnatic are used to delays. Hence fnatic had the advantage
/sarcasm off
/sarcasm off
2012-10-15 11:07:22
+1
2012-10-15 14:28:03
i was there, and both fnatic and navi arrived to the event around 3pm. fnatic waited and spectate the 1.6 3rd place, SC2 final and CSGO final and then waited for them to play
navi, as soon as they arrived, they spectated 10 mins on anexis vs p2p and as soon as they knew that there was still the SC and GO final they went back to the hotel and returned around 7pm
maybe you're right, fnatic are used to delays, unlike navi
navi, as soon as they arrived, they spectated 10 mins on anexis vs p2p and as soon as they knew that there was still the SC and GO final they went back to the hotel and returned around 7pm
maybe you're right, fnatic are used to delays, unlike navi
2012-10-16 01:41:59
Have anybody seen the 3rd map played ? What a joke. Suddenly the status turns into" MATCH OVER".
2012-10-15 02:15:14
For me personally, the winners - Natus Vincere(best team in the history of CS 1.6)...
Post edited 2012-10-15 02:15:54
Post edited 2012-10-15 02:15:54
2012-10-15 02:15:20
Theyre not even the best in this/last year how the hell are they the best ever jesus the blindness
2012-10-15 02:22:02
+1
There is atleast 4 teams in my mind which are better than them since the beginnings of cs 1.6
Post edited 2012-10-15 14:32:55
There is atleast 4 teams in my mind which are better than them since the beginnings of cs 1.6
Post edited 2012-10-15 14:32:55
2012-10-15 14:28:44
Well, let's install LoL now :/
2012-10-15 02:16:01
looking good for cs:go thanks 1.6 for the worst tournament when it matters the most.
2012-10-15 02:16:09
hmm , na`vi very bad?
they lost nearly all pistol rounds and still got more rounds than fnatic even tho fnatic had 5-6 rounds advantage...how is that bad?
anyway this tournament fucked up everything...
nevertheless...gg
they lost nearly all pistol rounds and still got more rounds than fnatic even tho fnatic had 5-6 rounds advantage...how is that bad?
anyway this tournament fucked up everything...
nevertheless...gg
2012-10-15 02:16:12
The only T round Navi won on tuscan was Edward's 1on2,they deserved to lose
2012-10-15 10:49:37
Shitty tournament with even more shitty commentators. All tournements that doesn't allow a normal HLTV. Die irl. ty.
2012-10-15 02:16:25
and sad final wasted like 4 hours on this match and watched a single map
2012-10-15 02:16:54
na'vi and ESC haven't won their last tournament...
sad =/
sad =/
2012-10-15 02:17:47
but esc e.g have won the most importnat tournaments like iem world and wcg so its not that bad :))
2012-10-15 08:31:37
Doesn´t matter, fnatic ends CS 1.6 as the final kings :)
2012-10-15 09:06:46
lol. when the streams/server crashed it really looked like Navi would win this. it doesn't surprise me that fnatic won tuscan but how did they win dust2? they must have been extremely strong on the CT side.
2012-10-15 02:18:01
well atleast when Xizt was the IGL fnatic had the strongest d2 CT in the world.
2012-10-15 03:05:00
good game by fnatic but karrigan, so disrespectful.
de_train was the best map just because we all watched that map, haha.
congratulations fnatic, deserved win after tuscan. p.s. ivansickk, edward uzb and soundbox please die after all, enough of this shit.
de_train was the best map just because we all watched that map, haha.
congratulations fnatic, deserved win after tuscan. p.s. ivansickk, edward uzb and soundbox please die after all, enough of this shit.
2012-10-15 02:18:16
f.. you , edit your post and put me 1st !
2012-10-15 02:19:20
why disrespectful? what did he do?
2012-10-15 02:19:53
AJAJAJJAJJAJJAJAJJJAJA
NICE ONE DUDE !!
NICE ONE DUDE !!
2012-10-15 02:21:41
gg fnatic I guess but I could only see the 1st map...the other two were a disaster in terms of organizing, stream, HLTV ect...
2012-10-15 02:18:34
So sad we couldn't see the finals. The 3rd place match was so amazing and the finals started with 15-15 but missed the rest.
Gj fnatic, clearly the best team in the world even with all the changes in the team.
Gj fnatic, clearly the best team in the world even with all the changes in the team.
2012-10-15 02:21:29
the 3rd place decider was better :)
delays fucked this final
delays fucked this final
2012-10-15 02:22:12
FNATIC <3 !!!!!!!! #1 TEAM IN THE WORLD EVER
2012-10-15 02:23:46
By the way nice write up on the last final ever, you do massive write ups for CS:GO noname team matches and then leave 1.6 with this?! What a big fucking joke. HLTV should do a history write up on 1.6 because who ever makes money on this site owes it to the fkn game.
2012-10-15 02:25:38
Who said he's done? He always does a complete post in less than an hour.
2012-10-15 02:28:35
they always write a short report when the match finishes and then update it.. idiot.
2012-10-15 02:36:22
The only true here is that fnatic is just the best team the all times...
2012-10-15 02:32:35
GJ fnatic.
Na`Vi are still the best :D
Na`Vi are still the best :D
2012-10-15 02:42:56
What was cs 1.6?
the best game ever... Thank you everybody for amazing moments. ^^
the best game ever... Thank you everybody for amazing moments. ^^
2012-10-15 02:56:24
gl fnatic! the last best team of 1.6 :D
2012-10-15 03:00:19
we saw more epic actions in this game than we will ever in csgo
2012-10-15 03:50:11
What language does fnatic communicate in?
2012-10-15 04:23:26
The danes are talking danish, the swedes are talking "southernswedish" sounds pretty much the same so I don't think communication is any problem! :)
2012-10-15 04:56:11
Moddii understands and speaks danish pretty decent.. He has a danish girlfriend :) Anyways, I guess he help FYRR73 with translation and so forth. And ingame-wish I guess they speak danish/swedish as they only need to communicate with few words.
2012-10-15 05:33:41
Mandarin
2012-10-15 19:06:18
ofcourse you all fnatic fans are retarded, fnatic is better, no na`vi is better! at the moment fnatic are best, na`vi had problems, a lot of problems, I'm a na`vi fan but idk what happening to them
2012-10-15 06:13:22
u mad bro?
2012-10-15 14:38:12
goodbye cs 1.6 , i always remember <3 cs:go sucks :/
2012-10-15 06:20:47
fuck :D bad news for morning ... so WP fnatic :) and gl in future for booth
2012-10-15 06:35:12
fuck its disgrace
2012-10-15 06:54:41
wow this article reached 100 comments and none Ukranien fanboi comment at all. Fnatic guys
2012-10-15 07:14:32
you whined a lot and fnatic still won,trace<Gux okay
2012-10-15 07:31:30
1.6 :(
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2012-10-15 07:17:46
The whole tournament was a fucking failure. One of the last (if not the last) major tournaments for CS 1.6 and once again we get a delayed piece of crap with issues around every corner. You'd think that after ten years of professional CS the organizers would've learned something. No, same shit all over again. Internet going down every half hour, final match (the most important one) delayed for over four hours at first and later on finished over four hours later. Anexis vs P2P.ru was a pleasure to watch though, one of the positive things to say about all this.
I also feel really sorry for the teams, especially Na`Vi, for having to put up with that shit. They were way ahead of fnatic the whole match until the ridiculousness started, ending up losing the following rounds after waiting hours to continue the game. Coincidence? I think not. I would've been frustrated too. From what I heard fnatic even tried to bargain for a round in which two players from Na`Vi crashed, beyond pathetic.
Anyhow, this is not how CS 1.6 should be remembered, I don't think that anyone is pleased as this being the final tournament nor with how it finally went down. I hope that someone organizes a huge, FLAWLESS, tournament with high-caliber teams to make up for this mess.
Post edited 2012-10-15 08:32:32
I also feel really sorry for the teams, especially Na`Vi, for having to put up with that shit. They were way ahead of fnatic the whole match until the ridiculousness started, ending up losing the following rounds after waiting hours to continue the game. Coincidence? I think not. I would've been frustrated too. From what I heard fnatic even tried to bargain for a round in which two players from Na`Vi crashed, beyond pathetic.
Anyhow, this is not how CS 1.6 should be remembered, I don't think that anyone is pleased as this being the final tournament nor with how it finally went down. I hope that someone organizes a huge, FLAWLESS, tournament with high-caliber teams to make up for this mess.
Post edited 2012-10-15 08:32:32
2012-10-15 08:22:44
cry more,there were no lags on tuscan and train was won on fnatic's mistakes
2012-10-15 08:31:40
I wouldn't call that crying, simply speaking my mind. No lags during the final map after hours of waiting? Well, hurray. That really makes up for it. Doesn't change the fact that the whole match was a mess after the first map. Even the streams went offline all the time, making it pretty much unwatchable.
The outcome itself doesn't bother me, rather the way it came to it. It would only be fair for both teams to clash without having these problems. I'd bet the result would've been completely different if it wasn't for the aforementioned issues.
The outcome itself doesn't bother me, rather the way it came to it. It would only be fair for both teams to clash without having these problems. I'd bet the result would've been completely different if it wasn't for the aforementioned issues.
2012-10-15 08:39:37
I feel you bro but you cannot deny that fnatic lost train cuz of big misstakes. Zeus pulled som heroic performance though but still does are kills he shouldnt be able to get that easily. You are right about that this is not how cs should be remember and I hope dreamhack brings cs 1.6 to the table between cs:go
2012-10-15 16:28:12
Why should the break affect navi more in negative ways than fnatic, thats just pure bullshit fanboyism/hating.
Navi were up one map since a bit lucky (but still strong) comeback at train. And had the chance to finish off the match by picking up 4 rounds in a row after longer break at dust2, to reach a 13-8 lead. But fnatic turned the match around and showed they stronger for 4:th time in a row, still even when changing some players. Navi lineup always been intact.
GL both teams in future! Nicely Played and Good Luck!! to Counter-Strike !! bless you..
Post edited 2012-10-15 08:53:12
Navi were up one map since a bit lucky (but still strong) comeback at train. And had the chance to finish off the match by picking up 4 rounds in a row after longer break at dust2, to reach a 13-8 lead. But fnatic turned the match around and showed they stronger for 4:th time in a row, still even when changing some players. Navi lineup always been intact.
GL both teams in future! Nicely Played and Good Luck!! to Counter-Strike !! bless you..
Post edited 2012-10-15 08:53:12
2012-10-15 08:48:19
Why ?
You can be worst player than your opponent, but when you are winning, when you have 9k in your hands almost, when you are happy, when you have that motivation that makes you give hs you never though to do, when you are with that mometum, all seems to be easier.
Then after 4h, waiting and waiting,problems after problems, fnatic could place theyr head in the place,had time to think what to do to revert the situation.
Fnatic put some rounds,thought that could win that, got motivated, ended the game, simple as that, in finals ,psychological helps a lot, not only skill matters.
Meanwhile , Navi loose 1 round,2 rounds,3 rounds, got unmotivated .
Simple as that :)
GG fnatic and Na´vi
You can be worst player than your opponent, but when you are winning, when you have 9k in your hands almost, when you are happy, when you have that motivation that makes you give hs you never though to do, when you are with that mometum, all seems to be easier.
Then after 4h, waiting and waiting,problems after problems, fnatic could place theyr head in the place,had time to think what to do to revert the situation.
Fnatic put some rounds,thought that could win that, got motivated, ended the game, simple as that, in finals ,psychological helps a lot, not only skill matters.
Meanwhile , Navi loose 1 round,2 rounds,3 rounds, got unmotivated .
Simple as that :)
GG fnatic and Na´vi
2012-10-15 09:22:09
It was Navi who won the first 4 rounds after the break and went up to 13-8 (and had 1-0 in maps after great comeback) to feel very, very satisfied with.
Fnatic once again deserve to be called 2012 truly champions, no matter what navifans blaiming this time for losing - they always blaiming, once again, so sore losers simply, get a f*ing grip all ready and move on!
Fnatic once again strongest!!
Fnatic once again deserve to be called 2012 truly champions, no matter what navifans blaiming this time for losing - they always blaiming, once again, so sore losers simply, get a f*ing grip all ready and move on!
Fnatic once again strongest!!
2012-10-15 09:28:45
It does affect both teams. I never said that Na`Vi would've been more affected by it, I just felt more sorry for them since they were in the lead. I do actually feel slight hatred towards fnatic if the statements hold true.
It's kinda hard to say anything about the ending of dust2 since nobody saw it (except for the ones who were actually there) but the effect that a crash can have on a match is bigger than you think. They were given a certain amount of money to continue with, which is already a different situation than before the crash. For instance, Friis was given 6k since he had an awp before the crash. He could've just as easily had only $4750 before the incidence, thus having an awp with 10 bullets and no kevlar whatsoever. These things may seem insignifcant but they can, however, turn the match around. As I already said though, I don't know exactly what happened at the end of dust2 so this is just speculation.
The thing that bothers me the most is that this was indeed the final major match and tournament for CS 1.6 and the way both ended was rather dissapointing. That was pretty much the point of all this ranting which became way lengthier than it was supposed to. Well, what can you do?
I too wish good luck for both of the teams and their players, too bad it had went down this way.
Post edited 2012-10-15 09:35:39
It's kinda hard to say anything about the ending of dust2 since nobody saw it (except for the ones who were actually there) but the effect that a crash can have on a match is bigger than you think. They were given a certain amount of money to continue with, which is already a different situation than before the crash. For instance, Friis was given 6k since he had an awp before the crash. He could've just as easily had only $4750 before the incidence, thus having an awp with 10 bullets and no kevlar whatsoever. These things may seem insignifcant but they can, however, turn the match around. As I already said though, I don't know exactly what happened at the end of dust2 so this is just speculation.
The thing that bothers me the most is that this was indeed the final major match and tournament for CS 1.6 and the way both ended was rather dissapointing. That was pretty much the point of all this ranting which became way lengthier than it was supposed to. Well, what can you do?
I too wish good luck for both of the teams and their players, too bad it had went down this way.
Post edited 2012-10-15 09:35:39
2012-10-15 09:27:40
The final was played fair enough with equal circumstances for both teams. It was same bad or good. One of the rounds fnatic won was removed from the score, you didnt know that, well, now you know.
And dont play the "hatred-card" towards others then navi, since we know navi abused many situations to their advnatage over these years since they created.
Fnatic whorty Top1 team of 2012 - 4 consecitive finalwins over same team!
GG!!
And dont play the "hatred-card" towards others then navi, since we know navi abused many situations to their advnatage over these years since they created.
Fnatic whorty Top1 team of 2012 - 4 consecitive finalwins over same team!
GG!!
2012-10-15 09:33:07
We could go back and forth with this, I still don't think that the circumstances were completely fair. I don't know anything about Na`Vi's abuses over the years, only rumours and speculation, having remained as such.
No doubt, fnatic is the best team of 2012, winning almost everything in their path. I have no disrespect towards them, nor am I a "fanboy" of Na`Vi, my reaction would've been the same if fnatic would've been in Na`Vi's position. I am simply not satisfied with the match, that's all.
Best of luck for both teams though!
Post edited 2012-10-15 09:44:40
No doubt, fnatic is the best team of 2012, winning almost everything in their path. I have no disrespect towards them, nor am I a "fanboy" of Na`Vi, my reaction would've been the same if fnatic would've been in Na`Vi's position. I am simply not satisfied with the match, that's all.
Best of luck for both teams though!
Post edited 2012-10-15 09:44:40
2012-10-15 09:41:50
It was same for both, So get over it.
Navi abusement? kicking out keyboard vs SK in OT at DHW 2011. Ghosting at several events. Screaming abusive and unsportmanlike words from ceh9 mouth - plenty of occasions. From time to time making really really poor performances losing with so obvious purpose in order to calculate the easier PO-route, that its nearly disgusting. Thats not what should define true and great champions and idols of Counter-Strike.
Fnatic were simply stronger. Deserved!
GG!
Post edited 2012-10-15 09:57:20
Navi abusement? kicking out keyboard vs SK in OT at DHW 2011. Ghosting at several events. Screaming abusive and unsportmanlike words from ceh9 mouth - plenty of occasions. From time to time making really really poor performances losing with so obvious purpose in order to calculate the easier PO-route, that its nearly disgusting. Thats not what should define true and great champions and idols of Counter-Strike.
Fnatic were simply stronger. Deserved!
GG!
Post edited 2012-10-15 09:57:20
2012-10-15 09:50:50
The advantage gained from the situation was more to fnatic's favor than Na`Vi's, you'd be stupid to claim anything else.
The kicking of the keyboard was supposedly a mistake, no player would do such a thing on purpose. I agree that ceh9 could keep it down but I guess screaming is a part of the game. Look at karrigan after every round, making noise like there's no tomorrow (not just with his mouth). I bet almost every team has at one point or another calculated their way forward. The tournament structures are the ones to blame, not the teams. I agree though that it's ridiculous but you can't really know for sure that this is the case, unless they really lost to a low-tier team with huge numbers.
I can't find any evidence for your claims.
The kicking of the keyboard was supposedly a mistake, no player would do such a thing on purpose. I agree that ceh9 could keep it down but I guess screaming is a part of the game. Look at karrigan after every round, making noise like there's no tomorrow (not just with his mouth). I bet almost every team has at one point or another calculated their way forward. The tournament structures are the ones to blame, not the teams. I agree though that it's ridiculous but you can't really know for sure that this is the case, unless they really lost to a low-tier team with huge numbers.
I can't find any evidence for your claims.
2012-10-15 10:14:38
I wont agree since fnatic had to remove rounds they won. Navi also won the first 4 rounds just after the break, negative impact(?)
Perhaps the keyboard wasnt with purpose, but navi didnt whant the round to be redone, thats a true face of bad sportmanship.
che9 worst troll in history of CS, nuff said.
Navi "calculated" tournaments like a disgusting abusmentstool like no other team ever played this game. No top tier team lost matches so badly with sucha obvious purpose. You see what should happened in teh Olympics with "sportmanship" like this.
Fnatic won 4 consecuttive finals in a row, dont be sore loser. Fnatic proved they are above navi. Navi were 3 points away at d2 with the score 13-8 but wasnt good enough / fnatic to good.
GG! :P
Post edited 2012-10-15 10:44:06
Perhaps the keyboard wasnt with purpose, but navi didnt whant the round to be redone, thats a true face of bad sportmanship.
che9 worst troll in history of CS, nuff said.
Navi "calculated" tournaments like a disgusting abusmentstool like no other team ever played this game. No top tier team lost matches so badly with sucha obvious purpose. You see what should happened in teh Olympics with "sportmanship" like this.
Fnatic won 4 consecuttive finals in a row, dont be sore loser. Fnatic proved they are above navi. Navi were 3 points away at d2 with the score 13-8 but wasnt good enough / fnatic to good.
GG! :P
Post edited 2012-10-15 10:44:06
2012-10-15 10:31:29
You're not taking the psychological aspect of the crash/delay into consideration, it plays a huge impact.
It's obvious that they had to remove the rounds they won since Na`Vi weren't playing with five players, that's a given. The fact that fnatic tried to hold onto these particular rounds is what makes it bad.
I am not a sore loser. I'm analyzing the match objectively. I don't give a shit if Na`Vi would've been completely raped, as long as the match is fair without interruptions.
It's obvious that they had to remove the rounds they won since Na`Vi weren't playing with five players, that's a given. The fact that fnatic tried to hold onto these particular rounds is what makes it bad.
I am not a sore loser. I'm analyzing the match objectively. I don't give a shit if Na`Vi would've been completely raped, as long as the match is fair without interruptions.
2012-10-15 10:44:35
Obviously navi were the ones who came out the strongest from that break, so your point doesnt makes slighest sense.
Eventually they didnt hold onto these points, since they had to minus rounds previous won. They had compromise debates about this. Dont lie to yourself that navi would selling themselves short there.
Considered the darn break - then, more fair then this it doesnt get. Its nothing but truly subjective (the very opposite to objective) putting it in such way navi in general are the disadvanteged team in this case. You dont agree with me and I dont agree with you. You can have your opinion, i never said anything else. But dont try to with false statements here.
Navi are one of the strongest teams ever in this game we call Counter-Strike, I can agree. But these 4 final losses in a row is quite remarkable!or? U seem like most of the fins that hates swedish CS dominance over the years more than anything. That is the core problem to your issue with this.
GG Fnatic ! and well tried Navi, but not this time either!
GG Fnatic, always topskilled!
Eventually they didnt hold onto these points, since they had to minus rounds previous won. They had compromise debates about this. Dont lie to yourself that navi would selling themselves short there.
Considered the darn break - then, more fair then this it doesnt get. Its nothing but truly subjective (the very opposite to objective) putting it in such way navi in general are the disadvanteged team in this case. You dont agree with me and I dont agree with you. You can have your opinion, i never said anything else. But dont try to with false statements here.
Navi are one of the strongest teams ever in this game we call Counter-Strike, I can agree. But these 4 final losses in a row is quite remarkable!or? U seem like most of the fins that hates swedish CS dominance over the years more than anything. That is the core problem to your issue with this.
GG Fnatic ! and well tried Navi, but not this time either!
GG Fnatic, always topskilled!
2012-10-15 11:10:18
You are clearly misunderstanding me. I have nothing against any Swedish team, I wouldn't care if the team that beat Na`Vi was African. In fact, fnatic was my favorite team back in 2009.
These things do matter, they do affect BOTH of the teams. I'm just expressing my frustration towards the tournament as a whole, the teams are just pieces in the puzzle. No matter what teams would've participated in the grand final, the match still sucked (apart from the first map).
I am objective since I clearly mentioned that these problems affected both of the teams. I do think that the leading team is always at disadvantage in these situations, as it has been proven before too. Na`Vi is (was) one my favorite teams but that doesn't change the facts here.
These things do matter, they do affect BOTH of the teams. I'm just expressing my frustration towards the tournament as a whole, the teams are just pieces in the puzzle. No matter what teams would've participated in the grand final, the match still sucked (apart from the first map).
I am objective since I clearly mentioned that these problems affected both of the teams. I do think that the leading team is always at disadvantage in these situations, as it has been proven before too. Na`Vi is (was) one my favorite teams but that doesn't change the facts here.
2012-10-15 12:25:00
Good. Then its no issue, fnatic won fair and square since it affected both teams equally.
Fnatic won 4:th consecutive final in a row, with some different players. This is not a one hit wonder. Best team won again.
face it deal with it live with it
Move on!
GG Fnatic! TOP 1 @ 2012 ! ConCratz
Fnatic won 4:th consecutive final in a row, with some different players. This is not a one hit wonder. Best team won again.
face it deal with it live with it
Move on!
GG Fnatic! TOP 1 @ 2012 ! ConCratz
2012-10-15 12:51:29
"I do think that the leading team is always at disadvantage in these situations"
How can it be when navi won 4 rounds in a row just after break(?)
Try another one or dont reply.
How can it be when navi won 4 rounds in a row just after break(?)
Try another one or dont reply.
2012-10-15 13:06:41
Them winning the following rounds does not mean that they wouldn't have been in a disadvantage compared to fnatic.
I rest my case, I always think that the losing team gets the upper hand in these situations.
I rest my case, I always think that the losing team gets the upper hand in these situations.
2012-10-15 17:13:27
Opinions are always more or less subjective until you can back it up with some substance-talk that comes along with real statistic facts.
Kinda sad to see you speaking against yourself.
Navi came out strongest by winning 4 opening rounds, how can you say it affected navi in more negative ways than fnatic. "mentally aspects" .. just ... haha.
Fnatic winning 8 strait rounds once again approves them being absolutly best CT's at d2. Turning this around with pure individual skills and talents they deserve to be praised, not forgotten "bcuz more unfair for navi" - so much bullshit in that statement.
Nothing else really.
While navi had more then perfect situation with 13-8 but wernt strong enough to seal the deal so to speak. They can blaim nothing but themselves.
No matter what haters say, fnatic still undisputed champions of the world year of 2012.
Kinda sad to see you speaking against yourself.
Navi came out strongest by winning 4 opening rounds, how can you say it affected navi in more negative ways than fnatic. "mentally aspects" .. just ... haha.
Fnatic winning 8 strait rounds once again approves them being absolutly best CT's at d2. Turning this around with pure individual skills and talents they deserve to be praised, not forgotten "bcuz more unfair for navi" - so much bullshit in that statement.
Nothing else really.
While navi had more then perfect situation with 13-8 but wernt strong enough to seal the deal so to speak. They can blaim nothing but themselves.
No matter what haters say, fnatic still undisputed champions of the world year of 2012.
2012-10-15 18:44:17
Fnatic are indeed the champions of 2012.
You are still clearly misunderstanding me.
I'm not finding any excuses for why Na`Vi lost. Heck, I don't even care that they did.
My initial thought was to express my feelings of the tournament, which I did. I have no idea why the whole Na`Vi vs. fnatic thing got blown out of proportion, that was only a side note. The final match did not deliver (apart from the first map), end of story.
I am still not a hater, as I have already mentioned several times. I have no idea why you keep twisting my words. A team can be at a huge disadvantage and still win the game, and vice versa. The fact remains that the losing team has USUALLY the advantage when given some time to think things over, it's not rocket science. Why do you take a time-out in hockey as the losing team? Exactly. This time things worked in favor of fnatic, that's fine, I'm not denying that.
I have honestly no idea why you keep replying to me, nor why you replied to me in first place.
Post edited 2012-10-15 19:10:12
You are still clearly misunderstanding me.
I'm not finding any excuses for why Na`Vi lost. Heck, I don't even care that they did.
My initial thought was to express my feelings of the tournament, which I did. I have no idea why the whole Na`Vi vs. fnatic thing got blown out of proportion, that was only a side note. The final match did not deliver (apart from the first map), end of story.
I am still not a hater, as I have already mentioned several times. I have no idea why you keep twisting my words. A team can be at a huge disadvantage and still win the game, and vice versa. The fact remains that the losing team has USUALLY the advantage when given some time to think things over, it's not rocket science. Why do you take a time-out in hockey as the losing team? Exactly. This time things worked in favor of fnatic, that's fine, I'm not denying that.
I have honestly no idea why you keep replying to me, nor why you replied to me in first place.
Post edited 2012-10-15 19:10:12
2012-10-15 19:09:47
All normal minded and well knowledged CS- ppls would agree the break didnt have any negative impact on navi's game at all. Since navi came out really strong from the break by winning the FIRST 4(!) rounds, getting them in a position where match in absolute most cases are over (13-8 as Terrorists at de_dust2). Talking about mental boost(?) somebody(?) "hey but lets blaim the break herpaderpaderp".
Both teams had to deal with the break, navi came out strongest in the begining, before the fnatic show once again started to rowl over the ukrainians by pure skill and deserved win.
Eventually navi was simply outclassed with 16-5 at de_tuscan, wich usually supposed to be one of navi's absolute strongest maps.
Why shouldnt i reply you when you are actually stating out subjective rubbish trying to minimize fnatics win. Im replying as long as i wanna, bcuz i know im right in this particular case.
Both teams had to deal with the break, navi came out strongest in the begining, before the fnatic show once again started to rowl over the ukrainians by pure skill and deserved win.
Eventually navi was simply outclassed with 16-5 at de_tuscan, wich usually supposed to be one of navi's absolute strongest maps.
Why shouldnt i reply you when you are actually stating out subjective rubbish trying to minimize fnatics win. Im replying as long as i wanna, bcuz i know im right in this particular case.
2012-10-16 00:02:32
That's funny, since I think I'm correct too. I am NOT minimizing fnatic's victory, they played better and they deserved it. I have never said anything else.
I don't know how many times I have to write this so it'll sink in. The losing team usually gets the upper hand when a break/pause takes place, since they can re-strategize their game and discuss about how to proceed. This time it did not affect Na`Vi right after the break. That's why I wrote, and will write once more, USUALLY.
These things ALWAYS affect BOTH teams, as I've already stated numerous times. I don't know why you got so hung up on this. I just felt more SORRY for Na`Vi, since they pretty much demolished fnatic before these fuck-ups. You could clearly see that Na`Vi was way less motivated on tuscan. This could be because of a lot of things, but the delay combined with the loss of the previous map is most certainly a decisive factor.
You keep on replying my friend, you won't change my opinion nor will you get anywhere with this anyway. Read me first post once more thoroughly. Was this topic really the main case in my comment? I feel bad for BOTH teams, as they BOTH had to deal with this shit and they were eventually BOTH affected by it at one point or another. Fnatic were stronger at the end of the day and they did deserve to win, although I feel more SORRY for Na`Vi since they were in the lead. Is that objective enough for you, princess?
PS. tuscan is not considered to be one of the strongest maps for Na`Vi anymore, I knew they would get raped on it. I'd say train or possibly dust2.
I am eagerly waiting for your next reply, sir.
I don't know how many times I have to write this so it'll sink in. The losing team usually gets the upper hand when a break/pause takes place, since they can re-strategize their game and discuss about how to proceed. This time it did not affect Na`Vi right after the break. That's why I wrote, and will write once more, USUALLY.
These things ALWAYS affect BOTH teams, as I've already stated numerous times. I don't know why you got so hung up on this. I just felt more SORRY for Na`Vi, since they pretty much demolished fnatic before these fuck-ups. You could clearly see that Na`Vi was way less motivated on tuscan. This could be because of a lot of things, but the delay combined with the loss of the previous map is most certainly a decisive factor.
You keep on replying my friend, you won't change my opinion nor will you get anywhere with this anyway. Read me first post once more thoroughly. Was this topic really the main case in my comment? I feel bad for BOTH teams, as they BOTH had to deal with this shit and they were eventually BOTH affected by it at one point or another. Fnatic were stronger at the end of the day and they did deserve to win, although I feel more SORRY for Na`Vi since they were in the lead. Is that objective enough for you, princess?
PS. tuscan is not considered to be one of the strongest maps for Na`Vi anymore, I knew they would get raped on it. I'd say train or possibly dust2.
I am eagerly waiting for your next reply, sir.
2012-10-16 08:39:51
Navi considered to be (if not the very best) for sure one of strongest teams at tuscan ever playing this game. They always been particular strong at tuscan before these latest tournaments. But now they starting to loose on at (3 matches in a row).
If you look more closly I also wrote "wich usually supposeD(!) to be one of navi's absolute strongest maps".
At tuscan navi were tilted and confused when fnatic won a couple of close rounds in the start, exept Edward perhaps who played like he was actually enjoying the game. But thats not what we talking about. We are talking about de_dust2 and its eventual outcome.
"I just felt more SORRY for Na`Vi, since they pretty much demolished fnatic before these fuck-ups." You seem very bitter with such statement.
Demolished"^^ Both train and dust2 were the closest rounds you could get in a CS-match. At train it was more fnatic misstakes who made navi win first map.
So this is what it comes down to, you are claiming navi had a lead at dust2 and they were the most disadvantaged. The score was 9-8 when the break appeared, significant lead(?) Navi won the 4 straight opening rounds to make it up to 13-8, what "psychological aspect" are you talking about here wich would send navi's play down compared to fnatic(?) your points doesnt makes any really impact nor sense.
"I do actually feel slight hatred towards fnatic if the statements hold true." you typed earlier.
So here we are, thats the very coreproblem. You are feeling hate towards fnatic, bcuz you whant navi to win. Thats simply why you are "feeling more sorry for Navi". Thats the opposite of objective, it means you are a subjective sissyfangirl, and your profil cannot rly lie.
No, you probably wont change your mind and i couldnt care less, since you are pretty much alone with your rabid fanthoughts - wich its so called logics are speaking against it self.
Both teams had to wait equally long, navi came out strongest from the break by picking up the 4 first rounds. Otherwise it would have appeared the opposite way. Thats logical sense, but you dont seem to have much of that.
So in the end thats your private and subjective opinion navi were more disadvantaged. If they were good enough team, they would have seal the deal when taking that 13-8 (as T). But once again (4:th final in a row) fnatic just were to strong, and thats what should be in the spotlight and focused on, nothing else.
I am "eagerly" waiting for your next reply, miss.
If you look more closly I also wrote "wich usually supposeD(!) to be one of navi's absolute strongest maps".
At tuscan navi were tilted and confused when fnatic won a couple of close rounds in the start, exept Edward perhaps who played like he was actually enjoying the game. But thats not what we talking about. We are talking about de_dust2 and its eventual outcome.
"I just felt more SORRY for Na`Vi, since they pretty much demolished fnatic before these fuck-ups." You seem very bitter with such statement.
Demolished"^^ Both train and dust2 were the closest rounds you could get in a CS-match. At train it was more fnatic misstakes who made navi win first map.
So this is what it comes down to, you are claiming navi had a lead at dust2 and they were the most disadvantaged. The score was 9-8 when the break appeared, significant lead(?) Navi won the 4 straight opening rounds to make it up to 13-8, what "psychological aspect" are you talking about here wich would send navi's play down compared to fnatic(?) your points doesnt makes any really impact nor sense.
"I do actually feel slight hatred towards fnatic if the statements hold true." you typed earlier.
So here we are, thats the very coreproblem. You are feeling hate towards fnatic, bcuz you whant navi to win. Thats simply why you are "feeling more sorry for Navi". Thats the opposite of objective, it means you are a subjective sissyfangirl, and your profil cannot rly lie.
No, you probably wont change your mind and i couldnt care less, since you are pretty much alone with your rabid fanthoughts - wich its so called logics are speaking against it self.
Both teams had to wait equally long, navi came out strongest from the break by picking up the 4 first rounds. Otherwise it would have appeared the opposite way. Thats logical sense, but you dont seem to have much of that.
So in the end thats your private and subjective opinion navi were more disadvantaged. If they were good enough team, they would have seal the deal when taking that 13-8 (as T). But once again (4:th final in a row) fnatic just were to strong, and thats what should be in the spotlight and focused on, nothing else.
I am "eagerly" waiting for your next reply, miss.
2012-10-16 12:06:28
+1 fnatic won fair.
Not least - dont forget Fnatic also had to remove rounds. There's no way fnatic got the more out of this situation then navi. It was a compromise that both parts were equally happy/sad with.
Not least - dont forget Fnatic also had to remove rounds. There's no way fnatic got the more out of this situation then navi. It was a compromise that both parts were equally happy/sad with.
2012-10-16 12:41:34
Thats what i always said, she/he doesnt posess the rights to feel extra sorry for navi - unless you're a big fan rooting for them.
Who told finnish girls/boys: "fanship is not linked with subjective statements"(?)
Retarded and poor semi-russian(s).
Who told finnish girls/boys: "fanship is not linked with subjective statements"(?)
Retarded and poor semi-russian(s).
2012-10-16 12:58:48
I am actually speechless right now. Just wow.
Yes, Na`Vi is rather strong on tuscan. What I meant was that they do have better maps and their level of play on tuscan has decreased since a couple of years back, I knew they'd lose to fnatic on it.
Na`Vi was way more dominating on both maps than fnatic, until the delay. I'm not even going to explain to you what the word disadvantage means since obviously you don't get the hang of it. Na`Vi did have the disadvantage after the break, simply because they were the winning team. Fnatic had the opportunity to discuss what they'll do next when taking Na`Vi's playstyle into consideration. Na`Vi had that option as well, but it yielded fnatic more since they were able to get the required rounds. A disadvantage does not necessarily mean that you'll lose because of it. It means the opponent has the upper hand but you can just as well win, just as they can. I don't even know why I'm explaining this to you, it should be obvious.
I'm gonna quote moddii on this one:
"... it was nice to have a break, to break their momentum and to talk with the players, so I think it was really good for us."
"The break benefited us but the decision itself did not, because we had won that round, we were up 3-0, and they would have to go on eco, so it would probably go 4-0 for us. But after the break we took one round and then lost the next one."
To claim that the break didn't have any effect on fnatic's game is completely ridiculous. Once again, I don't understand why you don't get this. I'm not taking anything away from fnatic, I'm not praising Na`Vi, I'm simply explaining the situation from an objective point of view. Yes, objective, look it up. I have not even once been subjective towards Na`Vi in this discussion, I would describe this the same way if I was a huge fan of fnatic and if the roles would be reversed. The break appeared, fnatic got the rest of the rounds and they won the map. How exactly did it NOT enhance their game? Self explanatory.
"So here we are, thats the very coreproblem. You are feeling hate towards fnatic, bcuz you whant navi to win"
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS THIS?
The result has nothing to do with that statement, neither does my cheering for one or the other team.
As I already wrote in my first comment (READ!!!) fnatic tried to bargain for the round that they won, in which Na`Vi only played with three players since two of them crashed. How exactly can you NOT hate that kind of behaviour? That, my friend, would be fanboyism. Ultimately they had to give up the round, which was the correct decision, obviously. No one in their right mind would even consider giving them that particular round. As of right now, I do NOT hate fnatic nor their players, nor am I a "fanboy" of Na`Vi. It's a whole other story if the aforementioned is true.
I never said that one of the teams would've been given a longer time to have a break. The terms of the break were equal for both teams, I never said anything else. The thing is though, (god forbid this is the last time I'll write this) things like these always favor more the losing team. ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS. Follow any sport and you'll realize. Why do losing teams make huge comebacks after a time-out or a break? Yeah.
That is my objective opinion about the situation, which also happens to be the fact here. I don't give a fuck about the teams in question, it's the situation I'm talking about. I'd say the same thing about Na`Vi if they'd be down a few rounds and later on end up winning the map.
I can't, I just CAN'T realize that you still think I'm trying to take away or lessen fnatic's victory here. They were the better team, they were stronger at the end of the match and that IS in the spotlight.
Do you still honestly think after all this that fnatic didn't get anything from the break? ANYTHING? I'm not saying that the break was the decisive factor for their victory, I'm saying that it DID have a small impact and that it DID have a positive outcome. This is what I've been saying all along. Thinking contrarily would be like saying that the break didn't happen.
I am done with this. I hope you are too.
Post edited 2012-10-16 17:50:59
Yes, Na`Vi is rather strong on tuscan. What I meant was that they do have better maps and their level of play on tuscan has decreased since a couple of years back, I knew they'd lose to fnatic on it.
Na`Vi was way more dominating on both maps than fnatic, until the delay. I'm not even going to explain to you what the word disadvantage means since obviously you don't get the hang of it. Na`Vi did have the disadvantage after the break, simply because they were the winning team. Fnatic had the opportunity to discuss what they'll do next when taking Na`Vi's playstyle into consideration. Na`Vi had that option as well, but it yielded fnatic more since they were able to get the required rounds. A disadvantage does not necessarily mean that you'll lose because of it. It means the opponent has the upper hand but you can just as well win, just as they can. I don't even know why I'm explaining this to you, it should be obvious.
I'm gonna quote moddii on this one:
"... it was nice to have a break, to break their momentum and to talk with the players, so I think it was really good for us."
"The break benefited us but the decision itself did not, because we had won that round, we were up 3-0, and they would have to go on eco, so it would probably go 4-0 for us. But after the break we took one round and then lost the next one."
To claim that the break didn't have any effect on fnatic's game is completely ridiculous. Once again, I don't understand why you don't get this. I'm not taking anything away from fnatic, I'm not praising Na`Vi, I'm simply explaining the situation from an objective point of view. Yes, objective, look it up. I have not even once been subjective towards Na`Vi in this discussion, I would describe this the same way if I was a huge fan of fnatic and if the roles would be reversed. The break appeared, fnatic got the rest of the rounds and they won the map. How exactly did it NOT enhance their game? Self explanatory.
"So here we are, thats the very coreproblem. You are feeling hate towards fnatic, bcuz you whant navi to win"
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS THIS?
The result has nothing to do with that statement, neither does my cheering for one or the other team.
As I already wrote in my first comment (READ!!!) fnatic tried to bargain for the round that they won, in which Na`Vi only played with three players since two of them crashed. How exactly can you NOT hate that kind of behaviour? That, my friend, would be fanboyism. Ultimately they had to give up the round, which was the correct decision, obviously. No one in their right mind would even consider giving them that particular round. As of right now, I do NOT hate fnatic nor their players, nor am I a "fanboy" of Na`Vi. It's a whole other story if the aforementioned is true.
I never said that one of the teams would've been given a longer time to have a break. The terms of the break were equal for both teams, I never said anything else. The thing is though, (god forbid this is the last time I'll write this) things like these always favor more the losing team. ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS. Follow any sport and you'll realize. Why do losing teams make huge comebacks after a time-out or a break? Yeah.
That is my objective opinion about the situation, which also happens to be the fact here. I don't give a fuck about the teams in question, it's the situation I'm talking about. I'd say the same thing about Na`Vi if they'd be down a few rounds and later on end up winning the map.
I can't, I just CAN'T realize that you still think I'm trying to take away or lessen fnatic's victory here. They were the better team, they were stronger at the end of the match and that IS in the spotlight.
Do you still honestly think after all this that fnatic didn't get anything from the break? ANYTHING? I'm not saying that the break was the decisive factor for their victory, I'm saying that it DID have a small impact and that it DID have a positive outcome. This is what I've been saying all along. Thinking contrarily would be like saying that the break didn't happen.
I am done with this. I hope you are too.
Post edited 2012-10-16 17:50:59
2012-10-16 17:45:19
Looking back at your first comment we all clearly can see you are putting all negative stuffs with a long message trying to convince "this is a false shameful win for fnatic" rather then the opposite.
Fnatic had to sacrifice 2 rounds at dust2 and navi won the first 4 directly after the very long break, so the pyschogical and momentum factor were not a fnatics side AT A BEGINING, they had to earn it back with their own skills and they did.
Eventually fnatic won dust2 and the momentum MODDII and all we normal ppls talking about first came at de_tuscan.
Fnatic were up 15-10 at first map (five matchpoints) and literally gave away the win by making some huge misstakes rather then navi playing extremly good as a team, wich usually is their primary and known marketing brand. So talking about navi would have "demolished fnatic" before at de_train and earlier dust_2 rounds is just mindblowing fake statements only comming from navifans.
fnatic got worlds best CT-side at dust2 - a level above navi's skillcap, so its rather logical they turned it around by their own power and will, and nothing else.
Post edited 2012-10-17 13:54:30
Fnatic had to sacrifice 2 rounds at dust2 and navi won the first 4 directly after the very long break, so the pyschogical and momentum factor were not a fnatics side AT A BEGINING, they had to earn it back with their own skills and they did.
Eventually fnatic won dust2 and the momentum MODDII and all we normal ppls talking about first came at de_tuscan.
Fnatic were up 15-10 at first map (five matchpoints) and literally gave away the win by making some huge misstakes rather then navi playing extremly good as a team, wich usually is their primary and known marketing brand. So talking about navi would have "demolished fnatic" before at de_train and earlier dust_2 rounds is just mindblowing fake statements only comming from navifans.
fnatic got worlds best CT-side at dust2 - a level above navi's skillcap, so its rather logical they turned it around by their own power and will, and nothing else.
Post edited 2012-10-17 13:54:30
2012-10-17 13:44:30
You are on hell of a fanboy, thats what i only have to say.
You didnt saw the match, you say that fnatic won fairly, they had money (loosing 13-8 before the break) , you think its fair enought Na´Vi money , i bet on a 11k each, fnatic 3/5k each.
And it all goes to 6k , you think fair.
Just because, fnatic won the past events, they had to win that , won.
Na´vi were smashing fnatics head , simple as that .
But talk wont bring us a new final so GG 1.6
You didnt saw the match, you say that fnatic won fairly, they had money (loosing 13-8 before the break) , you think its fair enought Na´Vi money , i bet on a 11k each, fnatic 3/5k each.
And it all goes to 6k , you think fair.
Just because, fnatic won the past events, they had to win that , won.
Na´vi were smashing fnatics head , simple as that .
But talk wont bring us a new final so GG 1.6
2012-10-15 09:57:08
Fnatic had to remove 1 won round they allready won before.
So, Cry more you sore loser.
Natus Loseré, forever losers to swedish CS!
;afadadDD
So, Cry more you sore loser.
Natus Loseré, forever losers to swedish CS!
;afadadDD
2012-10-15 10:04:30
Are you serious ?
You are just a fan boy , ROFL , did you saw what you just wrote there?
You have flags of fnatic on your door as well?
Swedish cs , fnatic ? am i missing something here?
Btw dont call me a looser ,you are the one cheering for fnatic,talking about a game that u DIDNT EVEN SAW, and you are all fired up because they won it.
I only cheer for FCP <3
1 MORE THING ,I TRIED TO UPLOAD THIS COMMENT ON REDTUBE ,BUT THEY DONT ALLOW RAPE ;(
You are just a fan boy , ROFL , did you saw what you just wrote there?
You have flags of fnatic on your door as well?
Swedish cs , fnatic ? am i missing something here?
Btw dont call me a looser ,you are the one cheering for fnatic,talking about a game that u DIDNT EVEN SAW, and you are all fired up because they won it.
I only cheer for FCP <3
1 MORE THING ,I TRIED TO UPLOAD THIS COMMENT ON REDTUBE ,BUT THEY DONT ALLOW RAPE ;(
2012-10-15 10:13:49
Man he is right, navi won the 4 stright rounds directly after break to the score 13-8. Halftime 9-6 to navi, fnatic lead 2-0 as CT second side.
But you seem mad. :/ Rrr' you Ok .
But you seem mad. :/ Rrr' you Ok .
2012-10-15 10:20:22
Dude , Before the break it was 13-8.
I seem mad? no way.
As i said before , only cheer for FCP .
Now, that Na´vi had that prizemoney won the had.
And nobody can say the opposite.
Do you reach my point?
Srgi4n7PéFF! didnt .
I seem mad? no way.
As i said before , only cheer for FCP .
Now, that Na´vi had that prizemoney won the had.
And nobody can say the opposite.
Do you reach my point?
Srgi4n7PéFF! didnt .
2012-10-15 10:27:43
Btw why did they had to remove 1 won round by fnatic?
That famous round , where Na�Vi played with 3 players ?
And fnatic wanted to continue, even navi had only 3 players.
If you say it is fair, well.
Post edited 2012-10-15 10:31:41
That famous round , where Na�Vi played with 3 players ?
And fnatic wanted to continue, even navi had only 3 players.
If you say it is fair, well.
Post edited 2012-10-15 10:31:41
2012-10-15 10:31:04
fnatic won and were the best, navi was worst. simply as that. fnatic the champions bye navi n00bs :)
2012-10-15 14:37:18
haters' gonna hate,learn to read the gm,dont cry Navi lost on delay,they played good 1 and half map.The rest 4 of 5 played so shitty,only Edward was playing the good lvl,clearly navi lost because they didnt play well.
You cry this much only make ppls laugh at fanboys,read the gm and demo before u post all of this plz.
You cry this much only make ppls laugh at fanboys,read the gm and demo before u post all of this plz.
2012-10-15 12:05:42
"Why should the break affect navi more in negative ways than fnatic"
Because NaVi lost concentration and fnatic had time to discuss new tactic. After delay game changed - fact. Obviously it WAS better for fnatic.
"since a bit lucky"
Thats just pure bullshit fanboyism/hating.
"they stronger for 4:th time in a row"
Fnatic 3:th time in a row have time advantage...
Because NaVi lost concentration and fnatic had time to discuss new tactic. After delay game changed - fact. Obviously it WAS better for fnatic.
"since a bit lucky"
Thats just pure bullshit fanboyism/hating.
"they stronger for 4:th time in a row"
Fnatic 3:th time in a row have time advantage...
2012-10-15 16:16:00
Better for fnatic in what ways when losing 4 first rounds^^u mad, navi to make the score up to 13-8 directly after break. Getting themself most idealic situtation and opportuinty to win the match, It couldnt went better for navi. Navi can only blaim themselves not skilled enough against fnatic.
There is nothing to blaim on.
Fnatic simply stronger and more skilled, skills at another level than navi, only Edward delivered really really good individual skill vs fnatic and it isnt enough.
Or else Y OUI maDz like Delpan would say.
Sweden CS best f0rever.
There is nothing to blaim on.
Fnatic simply stronger and more skilled, skills at another level than navi, only Edward delivered really really good individual skill vs fnatic and it isnt enough.
Or else Y OUI maDz like Delpan would say.
Sweden CS best f0rever.
2012-10-15 18:25:00
"in what ways"
I wrote it.
"Fnatic simply stronger and more skilled, skills at another level than navi"
You mad.
I wrote it.
"Fnatic simply stronger and more skilled, skills at another level than navi"
You mad.
2012-10-15 18:41:52
Im so "sry" misstress, but you are talking against yourself, over and over and over again.
mad easternEU fankindz most mad fanboys, especially ukr gutterchildz seems to be all gathered up at this forum.
Sweden stronk - ukr wronK
mad easternEU fankindz most mad fanboys, especially ukr gutterchildz seems to be all gathered up at this forum.
Sweden stronk - ukr wronK
2012-10-15 18:57:35
Im so "sry" misstress, but you are talking against yourself, over and over and over again.
2012-10-15 19:06:19
and they say, that the fanboyz are the others LOL
2012-10-15 19:54:27
Na'Vi got lucky in the first map. Well played anyway, fnatic. Best team of 2012!
2012-10-15 08:27:24
gg and wp both teams! :)
2012-10-15 08:43:16
delays and ddos thing broke momentum of Navi, fnatic was already loosing so it couldn't affect them insted it gave them time to rethink their strats against winning navi.
navi's bad luck :(
navi's bad luck :(
2012-10-15 09:00:40
No really, man, wake up. Navi hade the lead with 9-8 after fnatic winning the opening rounds at second side.
After the break Navi went up to 13-8 by consequently winning the 4(!) rounds in a row directly after the break.
So after all the break made more good to Navi then Fnatic.
After the break Navi went up to 13-8 by consequently winning the 4(!) rounds in a row directly after the break.
So after all the break made more good to Navi then Fnatic.
2012-10-15 09:17:21
U saw the same game is i did?
I dont think so, before the break it was 13-6 (i think, Na´Vi had so huge advantage, that when that went down, i turned off the stream, i knew it that would be Na´Vi easy win,they were smashing Fnatic).
LOL
Dont talk about what you dont know please.
I dont think so, before the break it was 13-6 (i think, Na´Vi had so huge advantage, that when that went down, i turned off the stream, i knew it that would be Na´Vi easy win,they were smashing Fnatic).
LOL
Dont talk about what you dont know please.
2012-10-15 09:26:14
LOL you are hilarious, if you closed the stream how did you see the game? YOU DIDNT! Fnatic made a comeback and won the map fair. navi didnt even request a new match after d2 was won by fnatic so stop bullshiting me because if they didnt protest you also dont have the right cause they clearly know more than you.
2012-10-15 14:39:09
Navi won the FIRST 4 rounds in a row after the break. 9+4= in portugal?
Hard for you to understand? Yes.
Hard for you to understand? Yes.
2012-10-15 09:36:31
Ok.
Did you even saw the match?
They were ALREADY WITH 13 ROUNDS YOU FUCKING MORON STUPID HATER FANBOY NOOB :D
You didnt saw the match and you are talking .
:mindfuck:
Go to Sleep , you didnt saw the match
Did you even saw the match?
They were ALREADY WITH 13 ROUNDS YOU FUCKING MORON STUPID HATER FANBOY NOOB :D
You didnt saw the match and you are talking .
:mindfuck:
Go to Sleep , you didnt saw the match
2012-10-15 09:47:54
9-8 was the score you idiot.
Navi took the lead with 13-8 by winning the first 4 rounds. How is that negative impact on navis game?
it was same for both, and even worse for fnatic since one of their rounds they won didnt count.
Sore losing fall to sleep allready and cry some more oceans.
4 consecutive final wins in a row for fnatic vs this navi, what to blaim? really fanboyism? or? whois? you not?
:D
Navi took the lead with 13-8 by winning the first 4 rounds. How is that negative impact on navis game?
it was same for both, and even worse for fnatic since one of their rounds they won didnt count.
Sore losing fall to sleep allready and cry some more oceans.
4 consecutive final wins in a row for fnatic vs this navi, what to blaim? really fanboyism? or? whois? you not?
:D
2012-10-15 10:01:41
CAN YOU TRANSLATE PLEASE ? I DONT SPEAK CHINESE , SORRY ;(
2012-10-15 10:16:19
So you say, but i dont speak arab so i cant understand your false ugly letters either.
[2easy for Fnatic]
[2easy for Fnatic]
2012-10-15 10:38:51
So why are you replying my comments ? ;(
why in every comments you say :
[2easy for Fnatic]
Fnatic Strongskt!
/2 easy
and so on.
No one can argue with you, so you get mad , and start calling fanboy , and saying fnatic are the best.
I dont care :\
why in every comments you say :
[2easy for Fnatic]
Fnatic Strongskt!
/2 easy
and so on.
No one can argue with you, so you get mad , and start calling fanboy , and saying fnatic are the best.
I dont care :\
2012-10-15 10:52:41
Why you reply me then, >--IF DONT CARE--<
you carebear :D
Fnatic STROOOONGSKT!!
you carebear :D
Fnatic STROOOONGSKT!!
2012-10-15 11:25:28
Fnatic > Navi 4x. Cry me a river ahahah
2012-10-15 14:40:27
Was an akward tournament with hltv and the internet going down many times. GG fnatic, though: From what I did see it was a well played match that was pretty close at times.
GG Fnatic!
GG Fnatic!
2012-10-15 09:55:24
"In what was most likely the last major final in CS 1.6 history..."
For somebody who has been following the Counter-Strike scene for four years, (not terribly long time), this just gave me a chill and sinking sensation. Not necessarily a bad feeling, just that it's hard to believe that the book has come to a close.
Congratulations, Fnatic, for getting the last laugh! ;)
For somebody who has been following the Counter-Strike scene for four years, (not terribly long time), this just gave me a chill and sinking sensation. Not necessarily a bad feeling, just that it's hard to believe that the book has come to a close.
Congratulations, Fnatic, for getting the last laugh! ;)
2012-10-15 10:00:16
Anyone knows whether there will be VOD of greatfrag's stream ? It was a great frag for sho, yet I fell asleep when the first map reached overtime :/ :D
2012-10-15 10:00:47
Btw, happy to see Edward back on track, haha.
2012-10-15 10:02:50
Why is everyone so pissed off that fnatic won?
2012-10-15 10:04:59
(Hehe why?) Bcuz 80% @hltv.org is easternEU mad fankidz.
Sweden Counter-Strike strongest once again.
MODDII da navislayer
FYRR73 i love you to
karrigan, friis and trace - all you are danish heroes and/or maybe semi-swedish heroes xddd X))
Post edited 2012-10-15 10:15:21
Sweden Counter-Strike strongest once again.
MODDII da navislayer
FYRR73 i love you to
karrigan, friis and trace - all you are danish heroes and/or maybe semi-swedish heroes xddd X))
Post edited 2012-10-15 10:15:21
2012-10-15 10:14:31
>sweden counter-strike
>three players are danes
>mfw
Post edited 2012-10-15 11:10:01
>three players are danes
>mfw
Post edited 2012-10-15 11:10:01
2012-10-15 11:09:46
cry more, majority of fnatic triumphs in 2012 were at least 3 swedes in lineup. Last two victories are with danish majority but still 40% swedish players!!
Top1: NiP/SK/Several versions with swedish teams 1999-2007, fnatic 2009, SK 2011, fnatic 2012
f0rever and ever - Sweden CS total domination!!
Top1: NiP/SK/Several versions with swedish teams 1999-2007, fnatic 2009, SK 2011, fnatic 2012
f0rever and ever - Sweden CS total domination!!
2012-10-15 14:46:15
SK 2011, loled. It was ESC year, that 4sho and I don't give a fuck about those statistics, it was ESC year.
2012-10-15 15:20:36
Yupp, pretty much. The 3rd world runs this site.
2012-10-15 14:07:18
Visit "Fan center",there is an answer
2012-10-15 10:15:14
Guys no one is pissed off by fnatic win.
At least i dont.
Im just talking about facts, discussing the tittle of topic simple , Na´Vi was crushing fnatic before the break.
Only Srgi4n7PéFF! ,making results of his mind (9-8 before the break)LOL , cant handle the truth, and start calling fanboy and so on, when we can see clearly that him is a fnatic fanboy.
At least i dont.
Im just talking about facts, discussing the tittle of topic simple , Na´Vi was crushing fnatic before the break.
Only Srgi4n7PéFF! ,making results of his mind (9-8 before the break)LOL , cant handle the truth, and start calling fanboy and so on, when we can see clearly that him is a fnatic fanboy.
2012-10-15 10:22:42
Watch the fucking demo,the score in the end was 8-4 for fnatic. So there was 2-0 before the break and moreover third fnatic's round was cancelled.
fnatic showed that they're better by winning 8 rounds in a row being down 13-8
Post edited 2012-10-15 10:30:14
fnatic showed that they're better by winning 8 rounds in a row being down 13-8
Post edited 2012-10-15 10:30:14
2012-10-15 10:28:50
You are ukranian , your argument is invalid.
2012-10-15 10:48:15
Its quite the opposite, you are portuguese and your argument is invalid because 99% of them in here are retards with mental issues.
2012-10-15 11:25:58
No need to insult portuguese people.
2012-10-15 14:41:55
Hardly a insult if it is the truth
2012-10-15 17:20:34
No it isnt, i could also say the same about uk people in general cause your ego is fucking big
2012-10-15 17:41:31
U can say anything, im just pointing out the truth and ask any user in here who isnt from Portugal and they will agree, im not saying all of them but the majority.
2012-10-15 18:02:09
They hate us cause we are too good. Sorry but its the truth =(
2012-10-15 18:05:02
you make no sense boy. he is ukranian and even he knows navi didnt deserve to win. hide in a hole boy you're being crushed
2012-10-15 14:42:24
sweden strong? with 3 borrowed foreign players :|
2012-10-15 10:20:22
Its almost over of 1.6 era, so for once I'm gonna express my emotions.
Fuck you NaVi and NaVi madfanboyz marik best awp all stronk edward top world ceh9 ghostbuster >.<
Fuck you NaVi and NaVi madfanboyz marik best awp all stronk edward top world ceh9 ghostbuster >.<
2012-10-15 10:23:59
NiP x X3 - First major Final ever - 2001 *
fnatic x Na'Vi - Last major Final ever - 2012 †
fnatic x Na'Vi - Last major Final ever - 2012 †
2012-10-15 10:45:00
Shame I missed the end of dd2, and the 3rd map, and also a shame that Na'Vi lost their momentum and couldn't take dd2 :(
Really good games though, solid proof that this game is miles better than cs:go xD
Really good games though, solid proof that this game is miles better than cs:go xD
2012-10-15 10:48:19
There's gotta be another 1.6 event!!!
2012-10-15 10:49:13
With the best players ever.
Like a event with the best players ever (heaton,spawn,walle,forest and so on) , just for fun, like a farewell to 1.6 :D
Like a event with the best players ever (heaton,spawn,walle,forest and so on) , just for fun, like a farewell to 1.6 :D
2012-10-15 10:58:14
This is only fitting to see the most dominating Org. in the history of 1.6 stay on top at the very end.
Fnatic <3
Fnatic <3
2012-10-15 11:20:32
fnatic is dominating 2012.. I really hoped that NaVi would win at least once this year :)
2012-10-15 11:29:53
That was the last tournament for 1.6
2012-10-15 11:31:33
"I really hoped that NaVi would win at least once this year."
2012-10-15 11:48:48
this was epic delay tournament :D I was waiting 6 hours on semifinal and final :D
2012-10-15 11:40:25
Hell yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
2012-10-15 11:44:13
shut the fuck up, it was normal tournament.
ps. navi looosers
ps. navi looosers
2012-10-15 12:06:22
Both played good in the 1st 2 maps,but 3rd map navi is just not there,the only ppls on navi side playing good level is edwards,other than that none of the rest can pull any fight fnatic gave them in tuscan,if edward didnt make that hs on karrigan it will be a 15-0 at half, navi seems very woody in the last map,dont know what happened,trace played a unbelievable game ,2 hp cluch.The whole team played great at the end to win this title,gg and gl.
Thank for every1 for bring us these amazing games in many years, truely lengends.
Thank for every1 for bring us these amazing games in many years, truely lengends.
2012-10-15 12:16:18
this is shit navi gg fnatic assholes
2012-10-15 12:51:09
Final was bad due problems and delay, if all will be ok Navi take 1st place for sure
2012-10-15 13:05:13
Still fnatic is way better team than Na'Vi, any doubt about this
Post edited 2012-10-15 13:32:54
Post edited 2012-10-15 13:32:54
2012-10-15 13:23:42
cs 1.6 never die . wake up !
2012-10-15 13:10:36
cs 1.6 died only competitively!
2012-10-15 13:27:48
EdwaRD DESTROYED EVERYONE WHY CAN I ONLY SEE POVS OF MODDII??? I WANT POVS OF EDWARD,TRACE,DOSIA etc
2012-10-15 13:34:40
I cheered for Na`Vi :(
2012-10-15 14:01:17
FNATIC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEAH. GREAT JOB
2012-10-15 14:05:58
gj fnatic and anexis Im so happy to see 2 danish flags in the top3
2012-10-15 14:25:54
gj fnatic they are realle deserved it
lat kingz in cs 1-6
amazing team
lat kingz in cs 1-6
amazing team
2012-10-15 14:44:06
TOP1 of the 2012
2012-10-15 14:44:26
lux
2012-10-15 14:48:38
gg fnatic too strong. Best team 2012! Danes too strong
2012-10-15 14:51:27
majority of fnatic triumphs in 2012 were at least 3 swedes in lineup. Last two victories are with danish majority but still 40% swedish players!!
Top1: NiP/SK/Several versions with swedish teams 1999-2007, fnatic 2009, SK 2011, fnatic 2012
f0rever and ever - Sweden CS total domination!!
Top1: NiP/SK/Several versions with swedish teams 1999-2007, fnatic 2009, SK 2011, fnatic 2012
f0rever and ever - Sweden CS total domination!!
2012-10-15 15:15:16
You know why most of ppl doesn't like Sweden CS? Because of fanboys like you.
Golden Five + mTw all lineups + Na'Vi > all your Sweden elite, peace.
Golden Five + mTw all lineups + Na'Vi > all your Sweden elite, peace.
2012-10-15 15:22:59
I thank you all for these beautyful comments, im feel lik almost cryink,,
BUT
SK > navi 2011
Fnatic >> navi 2012
Swedish top elites in general >>> nvi ukr horseshit-losers. Natus Losere'
ya still mad navifanfag(?)
Sweden Counter-Strike total earth domination! f0rever and ever. Only mad easternEU fankids can blind for this.
BUT
SK > navi 2011
Fnatic >> navi 2012
Swedish top elites in general >>> nvi ukr horseshit-losers. Natus Losere'
ya still mad navifanfag(?)
Sweden Counter-Strike total earth domination! f0rever and ever. Only mad easternEU fankids can blind for this.
2012-10-15 15:36:15
Yup, ESC + mTw/NoA + Na'Vi 2k10 > your GTR, heatons and other sweden criers :PP:P:P:P cryyyyyyyyyy
2012-10-15 15:51:55
Navi? LOL, you are delusive
2012-10-15 15:36:28
In 2011 ESC was the best and SK was 2nd statistic wise.(Archivements)
2001 NiP (HeatoN, Potti, XeqtR, MedioN and Hyb)
2002 -
2003 SK.swe (HeatoN, Potti, elemeNt, SpawN, fisker and ahl)
2004 The-Titans (whiMp, Drally, spx, KK, eGene and Eraz)
2005 -
2006 NiP (zet, SpawN, RobbaN, walle and ins)
2007 fnatic (f0rest, dsn, cArn, Archi and ins)
2008 mTw (whiMp, Sunde, zonic, MJe and ave)
2009 fnatic (f0rest, GeT_RiGhT, Gux, dsn and cArn)
2010 Na`Vi (markeloff, Edward, starix, Zeus and ceh9)
2011 ESC (NEO, TaZ, pasha, kuben and loord)
2002 : Team9? maybe
2003 : EYEBALLERS was also great
and I would mention PGS,NoA and Mibr in 2005
2012 is fnatic's year and it will be under a danish flag
Post edited 2012-10-17 11:41:26
2001 NiP (HeatoN, Potti, XeqtR, MedioN and Hyb)
2002 -
2003 SK.swe (HeatoN, Potti, elemeNt, SpawN, fisker and ahl)
2004 The-Titans (whiMp, Drally, spx, KK, eGene and Eraz)
2005 -
2006 NiP (zet, SpawN, RobbaN, walle and ins)
2007 fnatic (f0rest, dsn, cArn, Archi and ins)
2008 mTw (whiMp, Sunde, zonic, MJe and ave)
2009 fnatic (f0rest, GeT_RiGhT, Gux, dsn and cArn)
2010 Na`Vi (markeloff, Edward, starix, Zeus and ceh9)
2011 ESC (NEO, TaZ, pasha, kuben and loord)
2002 : Team9? maybe
2003 : EYEBALLERS was also great
and I would mention PGS,NoA and Mibr in 2005
2012 is fnatic's year and it will be under a danish flag
Post edited 2012-10-17 11:41:26
2012-10-17 11:35:43
1.6 stream watching population 10000~
Go " " " " 500?
Post edited 2012-10-15 15:37:59
Go " " " " 500?
Post edited 2012-10-15 15:37:59
2012-10-15 15:37:11
lolwut? It was tournament for 15000$
What about CS:GO tournament for 250$?
http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=154&galleryid=5168..
What about CS:GO tournament for 250$?
http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=154&galleryid=5168..
2012-10-15 16:23:32
omg.. how?
2012-10-15 16:26:42
KARRIGAN from zero to hero. at gravitas was a totally diff player
2012-10-15 17:24:01
nice final between two great teams!
Gj fnatic
nt Navi
sad Navi can't win this final..
Gj fnatic
nt Navi
sad Navi can't win this final..
2012-10-15 17:42:18
fnatic fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu syka TBAri
2012-10-15 18:12:59
the best competitive game has been killed by ourself, the technology. but was the best time in the e-Sport scene. GG 1.6 4ever
Post edited 2012-10-15 18:19:31
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2012-10-15 18:18:28
amazing comeback by fnatic.. thought they would lose after d2 first half...
2012-10-15 19:15:51
Yes, I fell asleep after the first half dust2, & Navi won this, but i'm surprised when I saw that this morning fnatic won PGS.
amazing comeback from fnatic
amazing comeback from fnatic
2012-10-16 10:16:00
gg 1.6
2012-10-15 20:30:46
Give it three months and MODDII is in NiP! :)
2012-10-16 12:09:19
RIP CS 1.6 PROLEVEL ===> R.I.P HLTV
2012-10-16 14:59:57
You can Download all the demos from here:
http://uploaded.net/file/t93ojovx
This file is legit. Demos in this file were recorded from the internal PGS HLTV. In this file is also included the demo of the final which includes de_train de_dust2 and de_tuscan.
http://uploaded.net/file/t93ojovx
This file is legit. Demos in this file were recorded from the internal PGS HLTV. In this file is also included the demo of the final which includes de_train de_dust2 and de_tuscan.
2012-10-17 09:06:52
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