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naSu replaces God in WinFakt
The top two of all time ranked Finnish Counter-Strike player Niko "naSu" Kovanen has returned to WinFakt, replacing Samuel "God" Räsänen as their fifth man in the CS:GO lineup.
Kovanen went inactive almost a year ago at the end of 2011 due to studies not allowing him to travel to events. He returned to relative activity just under a month ago in CARAMBA, but the team was unable to make waves in online cups.
WinFakt placed second in a Go4CS:GO cup losing the grand final against British mousesports, and since then failed to qualify for ESWC as they fell short against former HastaLaVista in the quarter-finals.
naSu returns to WinFakt in CS:GO
Contacted by HLTV.org, team captain Joona "natu" Leppänen said the following:
"He was the best possible player we could get in terms of skill and experience. Almost all of us have played with him at one point or another in CS 1.6 so we knew exactly what we'd get from him. We obviously want to be recognized as the best team in Finland and we wanna rack up some wins in online and LAN tournaments."
He was the best possible player we could get in terms of skill and experience. Almost all of us have played with him at one point or another in CS 1.6 so we knew exactly what we'd get from him. We obviously want to be recognized as the best team in Finland and we wanna rack up some wins in online and lan-tournaments.He was the best possible player we could get in terms of skill and experience. Almost all of us have played with him at one point or another in CS 1.6 so we knew exactly what we'd get from him. We obviously want to be recognized as the best team in Finland and we wanna rack up some wins in online and lan-tournaments."
According to Leppänen, Räsänen lost motivation towards the game sometime back and while they were hoping it would pass by, they were eventually forced to look for a replacement to avoid the team suffering.
WinFakt:
Aleksi "allu" Jalli
WinFakt's next event will be either SLAP Live or ESWC, depending if they can get an invitation for the latter. They're also participating in the CyberGames Invite League.
About time that they got real player instead of last source player :)
2012-10-15 13:38:45
naSu replaces God
2012-10-15 13:39:50
they got a player to replace an imaginary figure. 5v5 should ease things a little bit.
2012-10-15 13:41:27
@lurppis What do you mean by Imaginary Figure ?
2012-10-15 13:42:05
he means that he was shit.
2012-10-15 13:44:15
God is an imaginary being :|
That's why
That's why
2012-10-15 13:47:54
You believe in Devil and don't believe in God. lol that's so hardcore metal and shit like that of yours. :D
2012-10-15 15:29:35
Thats why I asked that question ..... Its truly disgraceful.
2012-10-15 18:16:02
Where did i say i believe in devil and listen to hardcore metal?
Just like i don't believe in Santa Clause/Pixies/etc etc, i don't believe in God and devil
666 is just because i like the number. Yes, I know it's theological reference.
Just like i don't believe in Santa Clause/Pixies/etc etc, i don't believe in God and devil
666 is just because i like the number. Yes, I know it's theological reference.
2012-10-16 07:27:26
wear the shield,shit is coming
2012-10-15 13:55:12
Brace yourself, unlikes on FB page are coming
2012-10-15 14:43:32
i wouldn't want to be liked by people who still believe in little kids' fairy tales... i mean it's 2012 and 99% of the users here have to be +10.
2012-10-15 14:57:21
do you think that maybe some new cs "cspromode or something like that" can replace cs:go? because enough 1.6 player dont want to play cs:go
2012-10-15 15:05:49
we'll see :)
2012-10-15 15:08:02
The only conformation request hltv.org makes is that its users communicate in english. Alienating users by making comments like that is neither appropriate or inclusive. I'd have thought someone that was so (apparently) interested in fostering growth in the hltv online community would actually make an attempt to at least be publicly tolerant of religious people. You don't have to accept other people's beliefs, just keep your negative and non-constructive views to yourself. A fairy tale is you actually winning an event with decent teams attending, anything concerning god/s is generally religion, which is often culture centric and not a conscious choice for alot of people. I hope that you understand the difference now.
Despite you being some washed up never-been, there are still people that look up to you in this community and its not really the best example being set.
Having no outlet for that passive aggression seems to be getting to you champ, and flame baiting on hltv.org isnt the answer. Go play some csgo or have a bat, either way gtfo and stop being ignorant.
Despite you being some washed up never-been, there are still people that look up to you in this community and its not really the best example being set.
Having no outlet for that passive aggression seems to be getting to you champ, and flame baiting on hltv.org isnt the answer. Go play some csgo or have a bat, either way gtfo and stop being ignorant.
2012-10-15 18:10:30
i guess my fairy tales turned out to be true then, unlike god.
http://www.fragbite.se/?newsID=12359
http://www.hltv.org/news/5203-evil-geniuses-win-ms..
my views actually ARE constructive towards a smarter general population. everyone is free to make a conscious choice, just like i have.
you seem to be the one getting mad, i'm just having a laugh at all the people coming out of the wood works to support "god"
http://www.fragbite.se/?newsID=12359
http://www.hltv.org/news/5203-evil-geniuses-win-ms..
my views actually ARE constructive towards a smarter general population. everyone is free to make a conscious choice, just like i have.
you seem to be the one getting mad, i'm just having a laugh at all the people coming out of the wood works to support "god"
2012-10-15 18:37:53
"2007-04-01 12:28"
Enough said. I'm sure between you and your brother you have almost a full trophy on the mantelpiece.
No i'm atheist too. There's no woodwork here, just a community that you don't seem to understand that you're actually dividing. Please tell me how your 'views' are constructive? Constructive comments generally inspire conversation or progress, rather than argument or division. Please grab a dictionary and sit down with Tmoo and read it. You've done nothing but flamed alot of people that are actually religious. People are definitely free to make a conscious choice, and you've made yours. My point is that the people that have chosen differently don't want to read your point of view.
While you have the dictionary out look up "Bigot". Then check the date. Chop chop.
Enough said. I'm sure between you and your brother you have almost a full trophy on the mantelpiece.
No i'm atheist too. There's no woodwork here, just a community that you don't seem to understand that you're actually dividing. Please tell me how your 'views' are constructive? Constructive comments generally inspire conversation or progress, rather than argument or division. Please grab a dictionary and sit down with Tmoo and read it. You've done nothing but flamed alot of people that are actually religious. People are definitely free to make a conscious choice, and you've made yours. My point is that the people that have chosen differently don't want to read your point of view.
While you have the dictionary out look up "Bigot". Then check the date. Chop chop.
2012-10-16 01:14:28
You use the word ignorant, I don't think it means what you think it means.
Stating the unexistence of a deity does not make you intolerant of religious people, just as not believing in evolution does not make you intolerant or aggressive towards atheists or science. That, my sensitive friend, would just make you ignorant.
You just made an ad-hominem comment in response to a perhaps provocative one, this makes you an angry boy (or girl) : (
Stating the unexistence of a deity does not make you intolerant of religious people, just as not believing in evolution does not make you intolerant or aggressive towards atheists or science. That, my sensitive friend, would just make you ignorant.
You just made an ad-hominem comment in response to a perhaps provocative one, this makes you an angry boy (or girl) : (
2012-10-15 19:20:10
Ignorance means exactly what i think it means, and is perfectly applicable in the way i used it. You seem to be smart enough to know that.
Implying through public statement that every religious person has the intellectual quotient of a child is definitely ignorant. Lurpiss doesn't seem to understand (or care) that alot of hltv.org users come from countries where religion is culture centric, or more prevalent than atheism. Calling religion a 'fairy tale' is really insulting to so many people, and he still has no idea..hes 'having a laugh'. Pretty much the definition of ignorant, which is (for you uneducated Finnish)
"Ignorant: Lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated."
My comments would be ad hominem if they weren't particularly relevant to the conversation. I posed that Lurpiss being burnt toast was the reason he felt required to flame bait was that he was why he wrote what he did. That's speculative.
Implying through public statement that every religious person has the intellectual quotient of a child is definitely ignorant. Lurpiss doesn't seem to understand (or care) that alot of hltv.org users come from countries where religion is culture centric, or more prevalent than atheism. Calling religion a 'fairy tale' is really insulting to so many people, and he still has no idea..hes 'having a laugh'. Pretty much the definition of ignorant, which is (for you uneducated Finnish)
"Ignorant: Lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated."
My comments would be ad hominem if they weren't particularly relevant to the conversation. I posed that Lurpiss being burnt toast was the reason he felt required to flame bait was that he was why he wrote what he did. That's speculative.
2012-10-16 01:56:37
That's an odd atitude coming from HLTV staff.
2012-10-15 15:09:25
how so? i would hope everyone in the staff is an atheist by now
2012-10-15 15:12:28
But that's still disrespectful.
2012-10-15 15:15:35
How is that?
2012-10-15 15:18:50
Seriously? He's calling religious people dumb, but hey! that's pretty normal in HLTV standards.
2012-10-15 15:21:13
He never used the word dumb, that's for one. And calling god imaginary figure is an opinion on religion I guess which I strongly share.
2012-10-15 15:25:55
Ofcourse he never used the word dumb, but you can perfeclt read it indirectly. I don't mind him sharing his opinion, the thing is way he does it, having in mind his status here, because if a random user done that, it would be perfectly normal taking into account HLTV's user age and their IQ.
2012-10-15 15:28:17
So you're suggesting that only people with low IQ don't believe in God? I'd venture to say that only people without critical thinking skills and/or who have been brainwashed since birth belive in God.
But that's just my opinion.
But that's just my opinion.
2012-10-15 16:18:45
Did I said that? You just proved my point.
2012-10-15 16:20:12
Well, your English isn't as good as it could be -- understandable because it's not your first language.
I thought you were saying that only people who are young/have low IQ post an opinion like Lurppis' on the forum. I must have misunderstood.
I thought you were saying that only people who are young/have low IQ post an opinion like Lurppis' on the forum. I must have misunderstood.
2012-10-15 16:31:11
Well he didn't use the word but he obviously insulted people who believe in god. By comparing believers with children who believe in fairy tales he will make all believers feel insulted and disrespected. I'm an atheist, but even if that's the admin's opinion i also agree he should keep it to himself and that it was a terrible behaviour.
Just like lildeath i wouldn't mind something like that coming from a rude user, but i wouldn't allow such comments to be made by my staff that's for sure!
Just like lildeath i wouldn't mind something like that coming from a rude user, but i wouldn't allow such comments to be made by my staff that's for sure!
2012-10-15 15:33:54
Well thank "god" we still have freedom of speech here, so we don't have to keep our opinions to ourselves.
2012-10-15 15:37:13
admins have, the average user doesn't.*
I already gave the example of yesterday a guy named horuz critisized you guys and the thread was deleted. And he did it in a proper way. ;)
I already gave the example of yesterday a guy named horuz critisized you guys and the thread was deleted. And he did it in a proper way. ;)
2012-10-15 15:40:26
Good. Then I want to add:
HLTV.org is rubbish. Staff is rubbish. Lurrpis sucks. This discusion sucks.
Freedom of speech, right?
HLTV.org is rubbish. Staff is rubbish. Lurrpis sucks. This discusion sucks.
Freedom of speech, right?
2012-10-15 16:48:31
wHy sO MaD? ^_______^
2012-10-15 17:00:54
Using "freedom of speech" as a way to say whatever you want. Where is the logic?
Post edited 2012-10-15 17:47:18
Post edited 2012-10-15 17:47:18
2012-10-15 17:47:03
Clearly you dont know what freedom of speech means... The staff can do what the fk they want and be rude but when a regular user does it, they get banned, their comment/thread deleted. Anyways imma try it, lurppis is a fking idiot who thinks hes some hotshot and hes allways defeding his brother like a faggot in every news (even tho they both are shit, well lurppis more). Pff. Hes prob. familyswinger anyways. AND THATS JUST MY OPINION! Im open to say my own opinion in anyway!
2012-10-19 06:59:49
LOL DID U JUST SAY FREEDOM OF SPEECH on hltv.org? You admins maybe but u ban/delete perfectly good discussions/threads where they have the RIGHT to discuss. Are you stupid? Racists have the right to vent their opinions too? If i feel your a complete retard is that a Problem? (my opinion and freedom of speech wat u gonna do?) admins..haha i laugh at that word. Like the admin abuse of 10 years ago Teleporting to enemy spawn after 2 seconds of start round:-) gg
2012-10-15 16:49:43
Ofcourse racist people can have their opinions too by the HLTV logic, proof of that is that guy WeedStonerGanjaman and Mr Precition always being racists towards portuguese people and nothing happens to them. But hey I started with the racists comments towards finns now, so the system probably will start to work now and I will get banned, but the guys above won't, or maybe because one of the HLTV staff is finn I will be banned.
2012-10-15 17:05:23
I wish you got banned
2012-10-15 19:26:35
I wish you get banned for sucking lurppis dick and not getting the point that hes an asshole and being totally rude against religious people...
2012-10-19 07:03:09
I never said lurppis was right. I wish that guy got banned for trash talking Finnish people as he did countless times in this very news, for no reason at all.
I wish you knew stuff before posting such useless reply.
I wish you knew stuff before posting such useless reply.
2012-10-19 07:55:32
freedom of speech? ofcourse, for the admins. Its funny how you admins abuse the delete button on posts that are of any slight critique of you or your site.
Please, stop being so full of yourselves.
Please, stop being so full of yourselves.
2012-10-15 17:47:01
Really am I deleting your comment? Or any other that I disagree with? Saying something doesn't make it so.
2012-10-15 21:47:29
well, we'll never know will we?
2012-10-15 23:07:32
boo-fucking-hoo, grow a thicker skin. ftr i think it's pretty silly to discuss anything other than cs on this site and expect any meaningful discussion :\
2012-10-15 15:43:06
Well, couldn't agree more, like I said the average HLTV user is young and dumb.
2012-10-15 15:47:08
oh i'm not bothered by the comment, i'm not trying to defend believers, i'm just saying i think website admins should take in consideration their website audience, and as many people in the website are religious I don't think admins should engage in such discussions.
I mean, i know it's an out of proportion comparison, but if someone in my countries government said something like that about religion they would most likely be sacked in the second, and they would deserve it.
Post edited 2012-10-15 17:57:49
I mean, i know it's an out of proportion comparison, but if someone in my countries government said something like that about religion they would most likely be sacked in the second, and they would deserve it.
Post edited 2012-10-15 17:57:49
2012-10-15 17:53:06
Wheather you share it or not, that`s hardly the point. The point is to respect other`s choice and hold the smart comments to yourself. Especially when there`s some expectance involved.
2012-10-15 16:12:21
"i have a hard time taking anyone who believes in "god" seriously."
if this isnt direspectfull, i dont know what is..
if this isnt direspectfull, i dont know what is..
2012-10-15 23:09:23
towards what? am i disrespecting an imaginary figure? well the good thing is all i have to do is pray for forgiveness and i got it!!!
2012-10-15 15:19:27
No, you're disrespecting people who believe, not the god.
2012-10-15 15:21:52
i like to think they are disrespecting themselves
2012-10-15 16:08:46
I like to think HLTV is a cool place where staff should be atleast decent, but...
2012-10-15 16:12:37
If you believe in something so badly, why you get butthurted by someone giving away his opinions on it? If I were you, I wouldn't give a flying fuck about what other people say or think.
2012-10-15 16:52:07
I don't if was the average user, but someone from HLTV staff making fun of people beliefs and insulting them in public? That's so wrong and stupid from them.
2012-10-15 23:14:03
Is he insulting anyone here? He just gave out an opinion, his opinion. At least get your stuff straight, fella.
2012-10-16 00:46:44
are you blind? He's calling people with beliefs retards, morons and dumb, if that isn't an insult I don't know what it is. He can have his opinion but with respect.
2012-10-16 00:52:05
I'm not blind, the rage growing through your veins has blinded you. Where exactly did lurppis call "people with beliefs retards, morons and dumb"? Because I missed it.
He's shown his opinion with respect as far as I'm concerned.
He's shown his opinion with respect as far as I'm concerned.
2012-10-16 00:55:44
#355 #67 #60 #69 #87 #95 #178
And his calling religious people dumb indirectly.
And his calling religious people dumb indirectly.
2012-10-16 01:06:36
Somewhere in #355 he says "some morons...". I'm catholic (althought I'm not a religious fan)and I believe there's a lot of moronic people who had done/is doing terribly moronic things in the name of God. I'm not sure that insulting religious people, but insulting the morons like you who get offended/angry so easily by criticism. If you're catholic, I reccomend you to read the Bible, and act as you should do, as a proud religious person you must be.
Other than that, he's not insulting anybody directly/indirectly. Unless you could get inside his brain somehow. Relax, fella.
Other than that, he's not insulting anybody directly/indirectly. Unless you could get inside his brain somehow. Relax, fella.
2012-10-16 01:18:09
lol dude it's so obvious the insults indireclt he's doin' and I'm not the one seeing that, even atheist saw the insults.
2012-10-16 02:00:20
Don't lie. If you felt insulted, it's mainly subjective and I honestly don't give a fuck. If you read it and give it an objective view, then you'll see how clear water is.
2012-10-16 03:36:23
dude but he's insulting everyone and his from HLTV staff, that's so unprofessional. And I'm not the one saying it.
2012-10-16 15:55:39
That's weird. A no-namer calling lurppis unprofessional. I don't care how many people says he's insulting, I can have my own opinion. And it's the next one: HE DIDN'T INSULT ANYONE.
2012-10-17 01:01:49
By your 1st sentence I can see the all discussion is worthless since you're one of those balllickers.
2012-10-17 02:31:42
And who are you to tell ppl in what to believe in? Maybe one's god is her deceased mother which she believes watches after her in heaven?
You're being really disrespectful. You might not believe in miracles, but you have no right to belittle those who does.
How old are you anyway? your attitude is childish.
You're being really disrespectful. You might not believe in miracles, but you have no right to belittle those who does.
How old are you anyway? your attitude is childish.
2012-10-15 16:33:15
it doesn't make it any more true bro, time to face the facts. i have a hard time taking anyone who believes in "god" seriously.
i'm 24.
i'm 24.
2012-10-15 17:04:17
It's not about god anymore, it's about respecting others opinion and beliefs whatever they might be.
And you really should've told your age to Valve when writing that rage letter. No wonder they didn't take you seriously, you act like a child.
And you really should've told your age to Valve when writing that rage letter. No wonder they didn't take you seriously, you act like a child.
2012-10-15 17:13:12
rage letter?
2012-10-15 17:15:01
http://www.hltv.org/news/8312-lurppis-trashes-csgo..
Pardon it was an interview, which makes it even worse. You're bitching in an interview... My god you really are a child.
Don't feel insulted now, this is my opinion I'm expressing granted by freedom of speech okay?
Pardon it was an interview, which makes it even worse. You're bitching in an interview... My god you really are a child.
Don't feel insulted now, this is my opinion I'm expressing granted by freedom of speech okay?
2012-10-15 17:25:29
Whats the big deal? Everyone is free to believe in whatever/whoever they wan't, its a personal choice, that doesn't give you the right to judge.
2012-10-15 17:36:35
Haha this is golden. I like how every 2nd simpleton on the internet thinks he's some sort of authority on both the physical and the metaphysical.
You have absolutely no idea about anything which even remotely relates to both human and non-human existence, let it be terrestrial or not. For your opinion to hold the slightest of weight, it takes much, much more than just being able to read about Dawkins/Hitchens/Hawkins on Wikipedia.
It really is amusing to me how try hard "atheists" seem to pop everywhere. The type of people who'll furiously claim it's simply humorous to believe in a supernatural deity and claim it's all about science, whilst having close to null scientific background themselves.
Whilst it's clear that organized religion is fallacious, it's just as both ignorant and arrogant to claim science has or ever will have the tools to be able to explain our existence, unless, again, you're actually educated enough in at least one relevant field of science to even begin intelligently assume one way or another.
You have absolutely no idea about anything which even remotely relates to both human and non-human existence, let it be terrestrial or not. For your opinion to hold the slightest of weight, it takes much, much more than just being able to read about Dawkins/Hitchens/Hawkins on Wikipedia.
It really is amusing to me how try hard "atheists" seem to pop everywhere. The type of people who'll furiously claim it's simply humorous to believe in a supernatural deity and claim it's all about science, whilst having close to null scientific background themselves.
Whilst it's clear that organized religion is fallacious, it's just as both ignorant and arrogant to claim science has or ever will have the tools to be able to explain our existence, unless, again, you're actually educated enough in at least one relevant field of science to even begin intelligently assume one way or another.
2012-10-15 20:00:20
i don't think i'm any kind of authority on just about anything, but i do know that a god does not exist, that much i can say for sure
2012-10-15 20:05:18
Please refer to merriam-webster and look "knowledge" up. I assure you, you don't have anything remotely close to knowledge on the matter, hence, you don't KNOW one way or the other.
What I do KNOW, however, is that you're both ignorant and arrogant. Your said "knowledge" on the matter starts and ends with the very basic and intuitive thought that since there's nothing you can't explain through means of science in your every day life, this principle also somehow applies to things which are to this date beyond humans grasp.
It's not shameful to be ignorant on the matter since there's probably only a handful of people on earth who're educated enough to claim against a supernatural deity on a purely scientific base. Your arrogance, and unfortunately, many others of this generation, is that you seem to think you're one of these people, based on... God knows.
What I do KNOW, however, is that you're both ignorant and arrogant. Your said "knowledge" on the matter starts and ends with the very basic and intuitive thought that since there's nothing you can't explain through means of science in your every day life, this principle also somehow applies to things which are to this date beyond humans grasp.
It's not shameful to be ignorant on the matter since there's probably only a handful of people on earth who're educated enough to claim against a supernatural deity on a purely scientific base. Your arrogance, and unfortunately, many others of this generation, is that you seem to think you're one of these people, based on... God knows.
2012-10-15 20:33:39
you make no sense at all... i don't need to understand the science behind what the leading scientists in the world understand. as long as they know it's true, that's good enough for me.
2012-10-15 20:46:05
Ah, then by all means, please do refer me to a study, publication, or even a mere article which concludes unequivocally the origin of the universe. I don't want to read about theories, models, or anything of the sort.
Let me help you and spare you some trouble, it doesn't exist, or else it would've been beyond widely spread.
If you claim it's enough that there are leading scientists who "believe" there isn't/wasn't a supernatural deity, then by all means, you're entitled to your own opinion and you can "guess", but, guessing or supporting general claims does not grant you any "knowledge" on the matter nor does it grant you the right to claim you "know" one way or another, and, on the same note, let me just bring up the fact there's an abundant amount of scientists who do believe in the possible existence of intelligent design of the universe.
Which of course leads us to the question, which scientist is right? The theist or the atheists, or is it someone in between? You're in no position to make the distinction, and the attempt to do so only makes you look even more arrogant.
Let me help you and spare you some trouble, it doesn't exist, or else it would've been beyond widely spread.
If you claim it's enough that there are leading scientists who "believe" there isn't/wasn't a supernatural deity, then by all means, you're entitled to your own opinion and you can "guess", but, guessing or supporting general claims does not grant you any "knowledge" on the matter nor does it grant you the right to claim you "know" one way or another, and, on the same note, let me just bring up the fact there's an abundant amount of scientists who do believe in the possible existence of intelligent design of the universe.
Which of course leads us to the question, which scientist is right? The theist or the atheists, or is it someone in between? You're in no position to make the distinction, and the attempt to do so only makes you look even more arrogant.
2012-10-15 21:06:10
you don't want to read about theories? i guess we can forget about gravity then, since it's just a theory.
i can claim to know it since it's extremely obvious to a functioning brain. you mad bra? go pray to your god, maybe he'll help.
i can claim to know it since it's extremely obvious to a functioning brain. you mad bra? go pray to your god, maybe he'll help.
2012-10-15 21:20:18
I like reading about theories, what I don't do, however, is form strict opinions regarding ambiguous, far-fetched concepts beyond human reach which the said theories are supposed to be dealing with, again, on a THEORETICAL basis.
I also don't understand what a basic natural phenomenon such as gravity which has been used in scientific research ever since the introduction of mechanical physics have to do with the subject at hand. Do you honestly think this is a valid comparison?
As far as me being "mad", I urge you, you're no longer 16 and it really is the time to put a thinking cap on. I strongly believe there's a correlation between the time you spend 9gag/reddit with your lack of ability to come up with well structured, well thought through thoughts.
I also don't know exactly where do you pick up on me being a theist who prays to Gods from this discussion, but I suppose that's just another sign of a lackluster mind which is unable to process simple information.
Post edited 2012-10-15 21:58:30
I also don't understand what a basic natural phenomenon such as gravity which has been used in scientific research ever since the introduction of mechanical physics have to do with the subject at hand. Do you honestly think this is a valid comparison?
As far as me being "mad", I urge you, you're no longer 16 and it really is the time to put a thinking cap on. I strongly believe there's a correlation between the time you spend 9gag/reddit with your lack of ability to come up with well structured, well thought through thoughts.
I also don't know exactly where do you pick up on me being a theist who prays to Gods from this discussion, but I suppose that's just another sign of a lackluster mind which is unable to process simple information.
Post edited 2012-10-15 21:58:30
2012-10-15 21:57:23
i visit reddit maybe once a week and i have never gone on 9gag :(
i still don't get people who try to take posts like this so seriously...
i feel fully comfortable saying that the gods that some morons here pray to (jesus' daddy etc) do not exist. maybe there can be a real god since science can't answer all the questions, not at least year, but it surely isn't the bro people go to churches for, just like the night time stories in bible aren't actually true.
get a grip bro, this is the internet.
i still don't get people who try to take posts like this so seriously...
i feel fully comfortable saying that the gods that some morons here pray to (jesus' daddy etc) do not exist. maybe there can be a real god since science can't answer all the questions, not at least year, but it surely isn't the bro people go to churches for, just like the night time stories in bible aren't actually true.
get a grip bro, this is the internet.
2012-10-15 22:50:36
just because Science doesnt have all the answers, yet, it doesnt mean that there is a GOD, and by God i mean some metaphysical creature in heaven, not "the god". its all a non-sense, either i do or dont have all the answers.
2012-10-15 23:03:05
Yesssssss the ultimate backtrack.
It's great when intelligence and wit wins over ignorance and arrogance.
It's great when intelligence and wit wins over ignorance and arrogance.
2012-10-15 23:19:41
+1 rick, +1 man.
2012-10-16 21:51:03
While i agree that a superior or abstract power is possible i find religion to be a joke. You can call me ignorant if you want but the idea that people are beliving in a story where..let me quote "angle brought the book to Muhammad" to be a oomplete joke and i do think these people are brainwashed that hard they are not able to think themselves.
2012-10-16 12:36:16
Again, in no post I've made in this thread I've even hinted towards a belief in any sort of organized religion.
My point, ultimately, is that atheism is becoming a 21st century religion in numerous ways, which is just preposterous and mind mind boggling to me. There's little difference in essence between the pre-medieval theistic simpleton and today's average atheist in this matter.
The sun god which slowly transformed into the various religions we have today, mouth to ear generation by generation, vs the average atheist, whose whole hypothesis is basically "omfg lol m8 it's the 21st century get with the program".
Both are fallacious in an abundant amount of ways, both have no base whatsoever and both are destructive to the human rational.
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My point, ultimately, is that atheism is becoming a 21st century religion in numerous ways, which is just preposterous and mind mind boggling to me. There's little difference in essence between the pre-medieval theistic simpleton and today's average atheist in this matter.
The sun god which slowly transformed into the various religions we have today, mouth to ear generation by generation, vs the average atheist, whose whole hypothesis is basically "omfg lol m8 it's the 21st century get with the program".
Both are fallacious in an abundant amount of ways, both have no base whatsoever and both are destructive to the human rational.
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2012-10-16 13:59:45
I don´t mind people slowly transforming to antheism even if they are "lets go with the program" type of people. Why?
Because i think ultimately it´s for the greater good for numerous reasons.
Because i think ultimately it´s for the greater good for numerous reasons.
2012-10-16 15:39:32
That's simply not true. People blindly following ideas, no matter the cause, simply can't lead to anything good. It will mostly lead to the already evident bigotry, arrogance, ignorance and feeble minds in general.
In this case, if you have to, for some reason, choose between being a strong atheist and a theist who follows a specific religion, then, yes, being a dull minded atheist is the lesser evil of the two, but that's also about it. If you consider this to be some sort of greater good, than I suggest you reevaluate your stance on the subject.
In this case, if you have to, for some reason, choose between being a strong atheist and a theist who follows a specific religion, then, yes, being a dull minded atheist is the lesser evil of the two, but that's also about it. If you consider this to be some sort of greater good, than I suggest you reevaluate your stance on the subject.
2012-10-16 16:06:18
He does have a point. Categorically denying what is beyond human knowledge is ignorant.
I don't need to believe, it's but I respect the fact that other people might have that need.
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I don't need to believe, it's but I respect the fact that other people might have that need.
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2012-10-15 21:24:54
i really and trully "like" to read what this neo-religious persons have to say about the subject. i mean, it makes me laugh.. So, we, human beings dont know how we got here, how things get together, what we are made of, the space, physics etc, thats all true, we may not have all the answers, but are we supposed to just BELIEVE in a methaphysical "creature" that created the world in 6 days and rested in 7th? are we supposed to believe in Adam and Eve and the story of the forbidden apple?! so if i dont know the answer to all those existential question, AM I JUST SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE BLINDLY in what the Bible says? and the same goes to the other religions! Science proved a lot of things and even if it doesnt have all the answers by now, one day it will. that is my belief and i truly hope someday science will set all the humans free of this Religion jail that most live in! that is my religion, SCIENCE!
2012-10-15 22:57:06
Why are you talking about catholicism, not buddhism, muslism, islamism, scientology and stuff like that?
Just because you don't know what made the big bang, you aren't forced to believe in God, just respect the others opinion.
You aren't supposed to believe in anything, you're free right? No one is obligating you. Just show some respect.
Just because you don't know what made the big bang, you aren't forced to believe in God, just respect the others opinion.
You aren't supposed to believe in anything, you're free right? No one is obligating you. Just show some respect.
2012-10-15 23:37:29
im not talking about catholicism, im talking about CHRISTIANISM because that is the religion i know, that is the religion i was forced to hear about for several years! i do respect other peoples beliefs, what i dont respect is the people that GROW hearing about it and dont question it not even a second! they tell all those lies like "jesus with his hand power separeted the seas" or "jesus brought a man back from the dead" or whatever, and people dont even question, they believe in that BLINDLY! that is what i dont respect. i dont respect when people say: "Evolution is satan's work" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyD1kuZ31bo (LISTEN THIS PEARL), "we are here because some1 created us"... how can i respect that? how can i respect ignorant people that are totally BRAINWASHED? how can i respect people that refuse to give death relatives organs to save other peoples life? how can i respect people that refuse treatments to them or their childs based on their RELIGION? please, the earth and the human kind would be a lot better without that non-sense.. i totally respect people that believe in Religion, hell Einstein believe in it, Galileu believed in it, but these are science people, that studied, people that proved us something, GENIOUS, not some ignorant brainwashed person like most of the neo-religious persons. Study science and study religion and only than, i will respect what u believe in.
2012-10-16 00:03:20
I understand your situation, I know what you're talking about. There are all types of people, people who believe and try the others to believe and people that simple believe.
I believe it in my own way, when I want I go to church and believe in God in my own way, by my own way I mean I agree with Science and History's explanation to the creation of the world. You understand what I'm saying?
I'm not an hardcore believer, I just do. ;)
I believe it in my own way, when I want I go to church and believe in God in my own way, by my own way I mean I agree with Science and History's explanation to the creation of the world. You understand what I'm saying?
I'm not an hardcore believer, I just do. ;)
2012-10-16 00:16:32
When theists claim god saved the earth by Noah's ark and has been "proved", that is when the scientific community can't respect their opinion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CccaGaKOlSI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CccaGaKOlSI
2012-10-16 07:52:12
Reading comprehension friend, reading comprehension.
In none of my arguments I claimed it's God or any other supernatural deity OVER science. Personally, I'm leaning much closer towards science than anything else, but, and that's a big but, I don't KNOW one way or the other.
I think that people who follow organized religion are just as ignorant as people who're self-proclaimed atheists. It's beyond me how can someone read what I wrote and interpret something else.
In none of my arguments I claimed it's God or any other supernatural deity OVER science. Personally, I'm leaning much closer towards science than anything else, but, and that's a big but, I don't KNOW one way or the other.
I think that people who follow organized religion are just as ignorant as people who're self-proclaimed atheists. It's beyond me how can someone read what I wrote and interpret something else.
2012-10-15 23:40:52
how can u possibly know if he is SELF-PROCLAIMED atheist or not? any1 with, at least, a little curiosity would search, for like an hour, and discover that life isnt HAND-MADE. there is PROOF OF THAT, its not a conjecture, its not a theory, ITS A FACT. its a fact that MAN IS THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE and we should model our life according to our values, our understanding of right or wrong, our respect for the human kind! not worship some methaphysical being that is only good for people to take advantage from other people's beliefs..
no they are not because at least people who follow atheism are backed up by PROOFS! u dont have to understand it completely to believe in it or support it. u just have to know the basics about biology, chemistry or physics to know that ITS IMPOSSIBLE that we are here because some1 created us, thats as simple as that..
no they are not because at least people who follow atheism are backed up by PROOFS! u dont have to understand it completely to believe in it or support it. u just have to know the basics about biology, chemistry or physics to know that ITS IMPOSSIBLE that we are here because some1 created us, thats as simple as that..
2012-10-16 00:28:31
Heh, you come off as bigoted as the typical judeo-christian follower. It's funny how the tides are turning and now it's the average teenage enlightened atheist genius who holds the keys to understanding existence :)
It's truly amazing how the aforementioned geniuses are able to draw valid conclusions each and single time about our origins and what not.
Honestly, what the fuck are those retards doing over at Zurich with that useless particle accelerator? They should just go on HLTV.org and get all their answers, for it seems that "any1 with, at least, a little curiosity would search, for like an hour, and discover that life isnt HAND-MADE".
Heh, idiots.
It's truly amazing how the aforementioned geniuses are able to draw valid conclusions each and single time about our origins and what not.
Honestly, what the fuck are those retards doing over at Zurich with that useless particle accelerator? They should just go on HLTV.org and get all their answers, for it seems that "any1 with, at least, a little curiosity would search, for like an hour, and discover that life isnt HAND-MADE".
Heh, idiots.
2012-10-16 00:53:45
congratulations for the most stupid post in the history of the internet... i dont hold the keys to anything, im just a ignorant guy, such as yourself. i dont know how we got here; i dont know how the particles have mass; i dont know anything. but let me tell u somethings i DO know. the earth is MILLIONS YEARS old. do u know who tells us that? GEOLOGISTS! and yeah i believe in geology even though i dont understand it deeply. it wasnt created in 6 days by some methaphysical being. u know how the humans are formed? embryology studies it, go read something; medicine diagnosis, treats and prevent diseases, not the allmighty god. physics and chemistry has tought us so many incredible things that im not even going to name because it would be a insult to all those scientists, brilliant scientist, if i was here talking about their work. so, given that, and that is just off the top of my head, how can any1 still believe that we were created by some god? that the earth was created by some god? i dont know, all i know is religion is an intelectual jail; people grow up hearing about all those magnificent things that jesus did or whatever and refuse to question it for even a second! and dont talk about the CERN people, that working there day and night to prove to idiots like u, that the argument that god created us all is falacy! is a lie! we may not be able to answer some existential questions, but were are certainly getting closer and closer (and by we i mean the mankind, cause if it was up to u, we would still be in the age of darkness, where the church sold tickets to the rich people, promising they would go to heaven when they passed away). We may not say how get but we are certainly capable of saying HOW WE DIDNT END UP HERE! if u know what i mean.
2012-10-16 01:18:27
You know.. First of all you should start reading the bible abit more "open minded"... Its not just a book or story what happent. I lol so much at these all idiots who think that the bible is like a "story". No. And NO im not religious but i learned that when I was 10 years.
2012-10-19 07:22:19
So you make fun of people who believe in God, but you do believe in people who say God doesn't exist? lol flawless logic.
2012-10-15 23:30:07
yes, i believe in real people, not fake gods
2012-10-15 23:35:11
don't believe in real people! I've already done that, they are fucking cowards! :D
2012-10-16 00:48:29
Very well written, I fully agree.
2012-10-15 21:00:17
lol totally idiotic..
2012-10-15 22:40:27
I don't think so.
2012-10-15 22:53:58
u didnt even understand half of what he said bro..
2012-10-15 22:57:46
After reading it several times and translating some of the terms he used, I did and very good. Your behaviour is preposterous.
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2012-10-15 23:13:23
what behavior? his terms are PREPOSTEROUS! his arguments are PREPOSTEROUS! his whole texts are totally stupid non-senses and just because he wrote some fancy vague words supporting the idea that non-believers are ignorant, u support what he says... now that is what ignorance is all about.. let me tell u this: its not the atheist that have to prove that god doesnt exist; religious people have to prove that god exists..
2012-10-15 23:24:20
You missed the point in his post seriously, he isn't calling non-believers ignorants, he's saying we don't know everything, science hasn't all the answers. He doesn't know everything so he can't take possibilities out, does he know that god doesn't exist? Oh wait, he doesn't! But he claims it doesn't, how? Because he says so. That's ignorant.
And the thing about religious people have to prove god exists... well they don't, they just want some respect and they don't care if you or me believe or not, if we do it's our problem, if we don't, it's still our problem. That's called faith, they believe because they want, they aren't forcing the others to believe (unless the jehovas). Respect.
And the thing about religious people have to prove god exists... well they don't, they just want some respect and they don't care if you or me believe or not, if we do it's our problem, if we don't, it's still our problem. That's called faith, they believe because they want, they aren't forcing the others to believe (unless the jehovas). Respect.
2012-10-15 23:44:44
your missing the point. no one with even a little bit of biology, chemistry, physics knowledge, even if it is a little bit can possibly believe that there is a god that created us! that is ignorance! ofc, we dont know all the answer just yet, ofc we dont, and with that kind of atittude we will never know, we will continue to teach our childrens what to think and not how to think! that preposterous, that is stupid and is IGNORANT! the whole bible is and offense to the human mind, to the human brain, to the human KIND! the man is the center of the UNIVERSE, urself, me, everybody! not some hipotetical creature that created the earth in 6 days and ever since didnt do anything else! Geology proves the world is MILLIONS year old and u know what? RELIGION DENIES IT!! embryology teach us how the human person is FORMED! the male sperm and the female ovule? are u familiar with the terms?! how can any1 DENY IT? seriously, how can any1 NOT believe in Science? its just so frustrating to listen/read people talking about religion! seriously, im shocked that in 21st century that are still people in the post developed countrys that would rather teach creationism in school rather than evolution..
2012-10-16 00:13:14
I didn't say God created us, I believe in Science but I also believe in God in my own way. I'm not implying you that God created us and stuff like that, but I just believe and respect would be cool.
2012-10-16 00:30:58
How do you classify yourself? Are you a "thinker" and/or an intermediary person, or a believer who doesn't like "organized religion"?
And may i ask what gives YOU the right to judge, question and laugh at atheists or believers, and their statements here in such an arrogant way?
And may i ask what gives YOU the right to judge, question and laugh at atheists or believers, and their statements here in such an arrogant way?
2012-10-16 15:33:21
I'm not aware of a single classification or terminology which is able to describe my stance. I suppose Agnostic atheism comes closest, but even still, I don't hold much value to it since I base this on merely intuition and assumption.
I don't believe in anything supernatural nor do I believe in intelligent design, and I do believe that naturally, as science progresses, we'll come closer and closer to being able to tackle the said issues with empiristic means, but I don't believe one way or the other regarding the possibility of one day answering the "major" questions by the use of science.
As far as me passing judgement, well, I believe this is everyone's right, but you're most definitely correct; I shouldn't have used such an uncomplimentary tone in my posts.
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I don't believe in anything supernatural nor do I believe in intelligent design, and I do believe that naturally, as science progresses, we'll come closer and closer to being able to tackle the said issues with empiristic means, but I don't believe one way or the other regarding the possibility of one day answering the "major" questions by the use of science.
As far as me passing judgement, well, I believe this is everyone's right, but you're most definitely correct; I shouldn't have used such an uncomplimentary tone in my posts.
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2012-10-16 16:30:18
Being respectful towards religion is an insult to your intellect.
2012-10-15 15:31:15
Yea, that could be a cool discussion, but I'm not feeling it having a discussion with a guy named gay_right.
2012-10-15 15:35:10
Why, are you a homophobe too?
2012-10-15 15:38:40
No, but I can't take you seriously.
2012-10-15 15:40:58
Yes, the Internet is serious business.
Nice ad hominem attack. Attack the argument, not the person.
Nice ad hominem attack. Attack the argument, not the person.
2012-10-15 16:23:23
?
Are you mad because you couldn't understand what I said in your previous reply? lol
Are you mad because you couldn't understand what I said in your previous reply? lol
2012-10-15 16:25:16
No. It's just that when I have some free time on my hands, I'll stop and respond to people that I see spewing logical fallacies.
2012-10-15 16:38:39
lol, I couldn't take him serious, simple as that.
2012-10-15 16:43:07
whats that? a cross in ur nick?
2012-10-15 23:10:45
And many people can't take believers serious as well. Still, you get all butthurted because of that.
Grow up.
Grow up.
2012-10-15 19:32:16
You surely know what butthurt'd his, but go reply yo lurrpis licking his balls and insult everyone like you do.
2012-10-15 20:02:49
I have argued with lurppis many times. Im not defending him, Im defending my country.
2012-10-15 20:11:19
So am I.
2012-10-15 21:12:38
What does it have to do with religion? Did I say anything about your country? lol
Senseless
Senseless
2012-10-15 21:32:01
In this topic, no you didn't. But you already did. But if you don't like it, just fuck off.
2012-10-15 21:38:41
Your arguments are so good that they make me want to puke
2012-10-15 21:55:57
Oh why, you dont have arguments ? Ok.
2012-10-15 16:54:54
Ofcourse I don't, that's why lurpis and januz don't answer me anymore lilfinn.
2012-10-15 17:01:38
Pretty fucked up logic. Maybe some people don't have time to sit all day long at computer to argue about religion :D
2012-10-15 17:03:57
sure, that's all about. I don't have arguments, neither me, neither the people who agree with me, neither even the atheists who replied to lurrpis calling him a retard for being disrespectful. You're right lilfinn.
2012-10-15 17:07:17
So you don't take a guy named GaY_RiGhT on HLTV.org serious. Shall we take you serious? lildea(t -whatever it is)h?
Stop with that, rad1um hasn't insulted you in any way.
Stop with that, rad1um hasn't insulted you in any way.
2012-10-15 23:01:42
I don't care if you take me or not seriously, but I won't take him, that's my problem.
2012-10-15 23:10:00
Then go solve it rather than insulting a Finnish person. Go talk with Weedsmokeganja or whatever his name is and let rad1um be.
2012-10-15 23:12:50
That's an odd atitude coming from a believer. I live in a religious country and the one that you should have had flame was the Samuel "God" Räsänen fot his choice of name. That is the only offensive thing here. And i don't believe in god
2012-10-15 20:51:26
No it's offensive his nickname. And my atitude isn't odd, it's perfectly normal, I'm not a saint.
2012-10-15 21:35:46
so, Zeus is and offensive name aswell?
2012-10-15 22:58:29
is zeus a venerated god anymore? WAKE UP PPL! We are not anymore in the dark ages where if you had your beliefes you had to be persecuted. Stop with this nonsense
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2012-10-15 23:44:50
what? that makes no sense whatsover..
2012-10-16 00:14:15
do you still worship Endovélico? or any of you acestors gods?
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2012-10-16 00:39:34
bro, i was just saying that some1 picking the nickname "god" isnt offensive to me, as isnt picking the nickname "zeus", thats all.. god doesnt necessary mean the christian god u know? i agree its and unfortunate nickname, but for me, its not offensive, at all..
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2012-10-16 00:41:12
Imaginary figure. If you are next to me i would punch you so hard ...
2012-10-15 16:21:01
if you were next to me i would shoot you in the head. for the sake of less trash in the world.
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2012-10-15 21:06:11
oh my god man, kill most of the americans than...
2012-10-15 23:12:43
Yea cuz killing for you guys is to damn easy and problem solving right?
2012-10-15 23:21:10
Haha, nice making ppl comment about religions in a post about your bro's team replace:)
2012-10-15 16:24:12
I think you've mistaken him with your penis
2012-10-15 16:37:42
hahaha. here it comes..
2012-10-15 16:54:31
Ambiguous comment right there. :>
2012-10-15 17:16:55
Can u prove that , enlighten us please .
2012-10-15 18:06:41
i don't have to prove that god doesn't exist, someone would have to prove that it does at first
2012-10-15 18:40:12
That's why it's called belief or faith dude !?
But on the other side u act like o have a proof for non-existance. You keep talking about science , then proof us scientifically.
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But on the other side u act like o have a proof for non-existance. You keep talking about science , then proof us scientifically.
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2012-10-15 19:44:17
doesn't make it any smarter. i used to have a belief in santa claus and the tooth fairy too, i just grew up since then.
2012-10-15 19:45:27
Comparing God with Santa Claus or Tooth Fairy , lol , just what i expected from a frustrated human being whos life doeesn't have it's meaning.
2012-10-15 19:46:59
so, enlighten me, what is the difference between Santa Claus and Christianity or Islam
2012-10-15 23:15:02
If u need someone to enlighten u with a difference between God and fairy tale like Santa Claus , then it's pointless . Other human can't make your soul understand those things, only God can and yourself.
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2012-10-16 00:31:36
FEELING GOD's PRESENCE OMG that is priceless... cmon man, thats ur argument? gods presence? the only presence i feel is my college roomate and some people in the kitchen making noise. keep beliving in creationism and ill keep beliving evolution and we will both be happy for the rest of our lifes. i hope.
btw: u are so brainwashed bro, please dont submit ur future kids to that intelectual prison. PLEASE
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btw: u are so brainwashed bro, please dont submit ur future kids to that intelectual prison. PLEASE
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2012-10-16 00:35:12
ofcourse i believe in creationsm .. cuz my dad created many forniture in my house himself. see what i did here ?
2012-10-16 00:36:34
derp god exist dud im from bosnia and i hew faith u cant prow cod no exist it mean he exist hahaha fail n00b lurppis
2012-10-15 21:09:07
Dumbest comment in this thread I guess.
2012-10-15 21:50:51
He was trolling.
2012-10-16 09:32:20
Most dumbest comparison ever. How stupid are you? Want prof that god exist? Look out of window or look at yourself on mirror. Forget it. Go watch deadliest catch instead. dl one episode but know this. Your ignorant and arrogance wont get you far in life.
You just made a fool of yourself once again lurppis, an admin staff. How can they keep you employed? What a shame. Keep making enemies then. Thats what arrogance grant you.
You just made a fool of yourself once again lurppis, an admin staff. How can they keep you employed? What a shame. Keep making enemies then. Thats what arrogance grant you.
2012-10-15 23:33:32
it's a perfect comparison; three imaginary things compared to one another!
i just looked outside of the window and in the mirror. i saw no god. i should actually download deadliest catch, haven't watched it in a while, thanks for the reminder.
ah, another genius who thinks if i like to troll less than bright people on the internet then that's how i must be in real life. ouch. that insult really hurts!
i'm going to guess i'm employed because of my knowledge of counter-strike and the work i do. and here i thought this site was about counter-strike!
i just looked outside of the window and in the mirror. i saw no god. i should actually download deadliest catch, haven't watched it in a while, thanks for the reminder.
ah, another genius who thinks if i like to troll less than bright people on the internet then that's how i must be in real life. ouch. that insult really hurts!
i'm going to guess i'm employed because of my knowledge of counter-strike and the work i do. and here i thought this site was about counter-strike!
2012-10-15 23:38:00
Can you see the air? You feel it and know that its there but you cant grab it. Sometimes you got to believe in order to see. Not the way around. Sients wont answer your questions or prove anything. Einstein didnt believe in god but he also didnt deny his existence. Darkness is not a phipsiculy object that exist. Its something that appears when there is no light. Absent sun. Samething with Cold. Absent heat and you feel could. The opposite appears and the opposite of believer is athiest. Just few examples and if your darely seints cant figure that does then they shouldnt be to hasty deny god.It must not be an object or formal to exist really. There are things amazing thing that exist beyond explination. I hope you get it.
2012-10-16 00:04:28
what did you smoke today?
2012-10-16 00:13:22
HAVE U EVER HEARD OF THE WORD "SUN"?
2012-10-16 00:38:27
hey santa clause DOES exist why because you cant prove otherwise......great logic....and hey the tooth fairy might exist because one time when i was about 6 i lost a tooth and my mom told me to put it under my pillow and money would appear in the moring and GUESS WHAT?!?!?!? IT HAPPENED I COULDNT BELIEVE IT UNTIL IT HAPPENED TO ME........jesus titty fucking christ this shit is pointless....
2012-10-17 00:28:28
your always free to express your opinion, but when you do, dont offend anyone.
2012-10-15 21:18:52
or just don't get offended? i don't get offended by what people who i do not know say, why should others?
2012-10-15 21:21:12
simply because religious topics are very sensitive and you should've talk about it in any way
2012-10-15 21:23:58
lol "god", nice nickname.
2012-10-15 13:40:47
replace reflex with lurpiss
2012-10-15 13:41:14
lurppis doesn't like go, and the few games what i've played with reflex he seems to be in good shape @ csgo, and btw allu the best! gl lads
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2012-10-15 13:42:52
<3
2012-10-15 14:08:53
u're my new soulmate
2012-10-15 14:11:22
What about you and other finnish guys, do you plays csgo?
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2012-10-15 14:23:48
Heh dude you've been quite inactive the past couple of years and you played great at the Areena. You gonna go GO?
2012-10-15 14:13:28
i'm quite an 'on and off' type of guy when it comes to gaming, so i don't think i'll be playing it in any team.
2012-10-15 14:22:12
Make a team with conte jigetus basic and aslak g0g0g0g0g0g0g0
2012-10-15 14:30:32
basic hates cs:go. source:
BASiC on CS:GO "i like how ppl tell you not to compare CS:GO to CS 1.6, that's like ppl telling you to eat shit and not compare it to steak"
https://twitter.com/lurppis_/status/24300084742706..
BASiC on CS:GO "i like how ppl tell you not to compare CS:GO to CS 1.6, that's like ppl telling you to eat shit and not compare it to steak"
https://twitter.com/lurppis_/status/24300084742706..
2012-10-15 14:59:56
Haha, he is right to be fair :)
2012-10-15 15:17:37
gl
2012-10-15 13:44:18
Sorry but no one can replace God.
2012-10-15 13:47:59
i'd go with tooth fairy or santa claus, both seem like worthy replacements. they also have their most important quality in common with god
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Post edited 2012-10-15 14:28:10
2012-10-15 14:23:23
Nice hate, keep insulting people.
2012-10-15 15:10:23
no hate, those are only facts. anyone choosing to believe in made up stories in a +2000 years old book are insulting themselves
2012-10-15 15:13:12
Yea I don't care what you think, but that's offensive. In your position you maybe should think twice about what you're gonna type.
2012-10-15 15:16:55
believing in god is offensive to any normal person's intelligence. believers make the rest of us look bad. imagine how people will laugh at us in 500 years when they teach history about "religion" and how people believed in god just like santa claus and tooth fairy...
except people stopped believing in the latter two when they grew up.
except people stopped believing in the latter two when they grew up.
2012-10-15 15:21:34
So you're feeling shame in your grave in 500 years from now? lol that's ridiculous, why you care?
2012-10-15 15:23:38
i'll be dead, i won't feel anything, but the people from the era in which i lived will be considered morons by the standards of the 2500s
2012-10-15 15:33:31
So you already know that our generation will be mocked by the future, so what? You won't be alive to "suffer", it's not like it's something extraordinary, we made fun of ancient times, it's perfeclty normal the new generations coming making fun of the oldest.
2012-10-15 15:37:58
i am making fun of ancient beliefs as we speak, why do you care? :D
2012-10-15 15:42:22
Because those beliefs still exist.
2012-10-15 15:45:00
so what? they are beliefs. if kids weren't told santa claus and tooth fairy are fake some might still believe in them (although i'd hope most would have figured out they're not real)...
someone just forgot to tell people god isn't real after using it as a reason to make them behave better etc
someone just forgot to tell people god isn't real after using it as a reason to make them behave better etc
2012-10-15 16:02:25
This isn't worth my time, afterall you're a finn.
2012-10-15 16:11:03
LOL. He calls you offensive for sharing your opinion on religion (because it doesn't agree with his) and then says he doesn't respect you or your opinion because of your nationality! Brilliant!
2012-10-15 16:26:59
ikr but you missed the balls you wanted to lick.
finns don't respect my country, why would I respect them?
finns don't respect my country, why would I respect them?
2012-10-15 16:29:35
nobody respects your country,hate everyone pal
2012-10-15 16:34:49
We don't hate everybody, maybe everybody hate us, you're the example of that, but yey, you're 15, so...
2012-10-15 16:38:00
Nah,I'm 18.And I was 13-14 when I registered here,pretty much logical for a boy who played CS? Now tell me newfag, what are you doing on this gaming site in your 25-30 age(judging by your talking),searching for love?
2012-10-15 16:56:05
No, I'm just gettin kids like you mad.
2012-10-15 17:00:24
Haha,such a nice job you have.I smell a nolifer lol Sad that you're the one who gets butthurted in the end ^^
2012-10-15 17:02:09
ofcourse, because it was me who went to my profile wall and started flaming in caps lock. lool
2012-10-15 17:08:21
It butthurted you enough for you to remember it now,for me it's an comfortable trolling without getting post deleted
2012-10-15 17:20:36
ahah seriously? Because I remember something I'm butthurted, but you post on my profile wall full of rage and it isn't butthurt, ahah awesome logic.
You don't troll, unless that's the 9gag standards and your posts in the finnish language thread got all deleted LOL.
You don't troll, unless that's the 9gag standards and your posts in the finnish language thread got all deleted LOL.
2012-10-15 17:23:33
haha are you really that wooden to think I was angry. There is an easy psychology of a butthurted human,he will always reply you back and will make his comment last,now remember that day ^^
2012-10-15 17:29:17
And now you're stereotyping Lurppis as as not respecting your country because you think all Finns don't respect your country. That makes sense. He didn't say anything about Portugal -- you just out of no where said you don't waste time talking to Finnish people.
You truly are brainwashed if you think everyone in a different country doesn't like you because of your nationality.
You truly are brainwashed if you think everyone in a different country doesn't like you because of your nationality.
2012-10-15 16:35:48
I'm not stereotyping, because I already saw him disrespecting my country. Finns don't like portuguese people, but I don't care.
I'm just like a finn, out of nowhere do racist comments.
I'm just like a finn, out of nowhere do racist comments.
2012-10-15 16:40:01
Stephen Hawking believs in GOD
he is dumb too? :D
he is dumb too? :D
2012-10-15 16:12:50
"I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when its components fail. There is no heaven or afterlife for broken down computers; that is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark," he added.
Hawking's latest comments go beyond those laid out in his 2010 book, The Grand Design, in which he asserted that there is no need for a creator to explain the existence of the universe. The book provoked a backlash from some religious leaders, including the chief rabbi, Lord Sacks, who accused Hawking of committing an "elementary fallacy" of logic.
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and no, stephen hawking especially does not believe in god. he, like i do, believes in science.
Hawking's latest comments go beyond those laid out in his 2010 book, The Grand Design, in which he asserted that there is no need for a creator to explain the existence of the universe. The book provoked a backlash from some religious leaders, including the chief rabbi, Lord Sacks, who accused Hawking of committing an "elementary fallacy" of logic.
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and no, stephen hawking especially does not believe in god. he, like i do, believes in science.
2012-10-15 17:04:51
we can be friends.. :D
2012-10-15 20:16:13
who brainwashed u? we are in 2012 dude, time to wake up bro
2012-10-15 16:12:57
I'm not expecting the average user to understand the point, because the point isn't if god exists or not. So I'm not gonna have a discussion with you.
2012-10-15 16:16:30
i'm not commenting here as a member of hltv.org staff, i comment as a user just like you; no need to try to hold me to different standards. i only post news/articles as a member of the staff.
2012-10-15 17:05:34
you may think that, but as long as you have a bold nickname with HLTV.org in it, as much as you want, you aren't like us (random users), so it would be good if you had some respect.
2012-10-15 17:10:24
you don't care that i work for hltv.org, you care that i'm "known" and against your beliefs.
it's hard to respect what is so obviously not even remotely close to being true.
it's hard to respect what is so obviously not even remotely close to being true.
2012-10-15 17:12:32
I care you're a member of staff, that's what matters, same thing with januz.
You have your opinion, but you can express it without flaming/being disrespectful like normal people do.
You have your opinion, but you can express it without flaming/being disrespectful like normal people do.
2012-10-15 17:14:28
Religious people really can't deal with their beliefs being questioned for lack of basick logic, contradictions and being backwards to where we as species are now. You're a true believer deal with critisizm.
2012-10-15 15:23:23
You're coming with facts and stuff like that, do you think that's all that matters to riligious people?
2012-10-15 15:25:38
Yeah people who are believers don't care about proof, facts or other things that helped us evolve. I'm not going to start another argument about religion cause it's meaningless. You believe whatever you want, but don't tell other people that critisizing them is offensive. Cause it's not, it's an opinion.
2012-10-15 15:30:02
You're missing the point.
"You believe whatever you want, but don't tell other people that critisizing them is offensive. Cause it's not, it's an opinion." Yea... no. There are alot of ways to critisize, and you guys are really the proof of that, even yesterday horuz made a thread criticizing you(HKTV admins) and you didn't liked his OPINION so you simply deleted.
"You believe whatever you want, but don't tell other people that critisizing them is offensive. Cause it's not, it's an opinion." Yea... no. There are alot of ways to critisize, and you guys are really the proof of that, even yesterday horuz made a thread criticizing you(HKTV admins) and you didn't liked his OPINION so you simply deleted.
2012-10-15 15:33:28
You just keep whining that you are being insulted, because people are questioning something that is somewhat important to you.
You don't provide any arguments that why lurppis is wrong on what he thinks. Your just being offended and thats just too fucking bad.
Believe in your "god" be happy and don't give a fuck on others opinions(Were they offensive or not), or give us some good arguments that why is he exactly wrong.
You don't provide any arguments that why lurppis is wrong on what he thinks. Your just being offended and thats just too fucking bad.
Believe in your "god" be happy and don't give a fuck on others opinions(Were they offensive or not), or give us some good arguments that why is he exactly wrong.
2012-10-15 21:36:00
It's not whinning when someone calls you dumb for having your beliefs. It's not about questioning I don't care if he believes or not, but if he doesn't he could just fuck off and don't insult like a retard he is.
Ofcourse I don't provide arguments, I don't need to, I'm not here to convert him nor anyone and that's not even the point of the discussion, the point is him offending everyone that has some belief.
Ofcourse I don't provide arguments, I don't need to, I'm not here to convert him nor anyone and that's not even the point of the discussion, the point is him offending everyone that has some belief.
2012-10-15 21:43:45
soo, who created this world and ppl?
I mean I know that this website was created
by Nomad or someone else, don't know exactly :D but the point is this website has creature
Hawking believes there is GOD
I am not very in religion, but I believe that SOMEONE created this.
I mean I know that this website was created
by Nomad or someone else, don't know exactly :D but the point is this website has creature
Hawking believes there is GOD
I am not very in religion, but I believe that SOMEONE created this.
2012-10-15 16:36:07
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang
hawking does not believe there is a god, he believes in science :)
hawking does not believe there is a god, he believes in science :)
2012-10-15 17:09:07
OH MY EXPLOSION :DDD
2012-10-15 17:10:07
I don't believe in god and I always believe that facts out weigh belief as you have concrete evidence to back things up with. BUT, being close minded and not accepting that someone else can believe in god if they want is even worse.
Everyone believes in something, don't judge them for it (unless they force it down your throat, then you have my full support to go ape shit at them) :D
Everyone believes in something, don't judge them for it (unless they force it down your throat, then you have my full support to go ape shit at them) :D
2012-10-15 17:12:29
i was happily reading comments about my brother joining a new team and someone brought in an imaginary creature, so i commented.
that's similar to some retard jehova's witnesses showing up at my door on wednesday to tell me about doomsday.
on that note; people who believe in god: you are in the same group of people with those jehova's witnesses.
that's similar to some retard jehova's witnesses showing up at my door on wednesday to tell me about doomsday.
on that note; people who believe in god: you are in the same group of people with those jehova's witnesses.
2012-10-15 17:14:17
that russian guy only said naSu replaces God, the player, you started with this, don't say otherwise.
I believe in God and I never forced anyone to believe but I'm in the same group of the jehova's witness, just because I have Faith in something.
I believe in God and I never forced anyone to believe but I'm in the same group of the jehova's witness, just because I have Faith in something.
2012-10-15 17:27:34
Pretty horrendous... Jehova's get a right bashing in the UK for knocking on peoples doors and so they should for basically trying to push people to believe what they do. But that doesn't mean you can't politely say no and leave it at that...
I dont understand how a hardcore 1.6 fan can be more considerate toward CSGO than he can toward people with beliefs different to his own :D
I dont understand how a hardcore 1.6 fan can be more considerate toward CSGO than he can toward people with beliefs different to his own :D
2012-10-15 17:42:19
in a not at all more realistic than god way i think that if someone who believes in god has their faith questioned maybe they'll change for the better.
i just can't believe there are adults in the 21st century who still believe that stuff... i seriously thought everyone knew it was a joke until my time in the us taught me young adults still go to church etc... it's crazy
i just can't believe there are adults in the 21st century who still believe that stuff... i seriously thought everyone knew it was a joke until my time in the us taught me young adults still go to church etc... it's crazy
2012-10-15 17:47:24
But emm...if GOD created us then who created GOD?
2012-10-16 09:40:33
#178
"that's similar to some retard jehova's witnesses showing up at my door on wednesday to tell me about doomsday.
on that note; people who believe in god: you are in the same group of people with those jehova's witnesses"
Very constructive indeed.
"that's similar to some retard jehova's witnesses showing up at my door on wednesday to tell me about doomsday.
on that note; people who believe in god: you are in the same group of people with those jehova's witnesses"
Very constructive indeed.
2012-10-15 17:26:11
90% procent of your country believes in god. You got droped i guess and I just expressed myself freely now. Feel insulted.
2012-10-15 23:41:19
BUt I really don't. I feel great about it. I mean being able to free myself from thinking like the vast majority of my country.
2012-10-16 10:04:53
lurrpis basically calling religious peeps idiots. That's destructive criticism, nobody likes hearing insults.
I expected better from HLTV.org staff, not them insulting their users like a bunch of immature gamers.
I expected better from HLTV.org staff, not them insulting their users like a bunch of immature gamers.
2012-10-15 16:46:33
would you not think i am an idiot if i told you i have a pink elephant that is my own personal god and follows me around everywhere i go?
2012-10-15 17:48:16
No I would not look down at you for that, I heard kids love them. ^^
2012-10-15 18:19:33
But... religious peeps ARE idiots. What's wrong with stating the facts, which is what lurppis did, albeit in a rather blunt fashion?
If someone tells you something completely ridiculous and shows no evidence to back what they said up, and then you actually believe it, chances are you are an idiot. And if they give you a set of rules that you have to follow if you believe them and you do, chances are you are not just an idiot, but a complete grade S drooling retard.
Actually, nvm. But here's the thing: I'm actually the creator of the universe. I have no evidence to support this claim, but trust me, I am. I just wrote it down on a piece of paper, so it's just as believable as the bible. So obey me: live your life as you have this far, being a cool dude and shit, but just send me a 100€ every month, so once you die you'll be eternally happy etc. I guarantee it, no evidence to show naturally but trust me, it says so on the piece of paper I just wrote.
PM me for the address, and you can send this month's 100€ tomorrow. Kthxbye.
If someone tells you something completely ridiculous and shows no evidence to back what they said up, and then you actually believe it, chances are you are an idiot. And if they give you a set of rules that you have to follow if you believe them and you do, chances are you are not just an idiot, but a complete grade S drooling retard.
Actually, nvm. But here's the thing: I'm actually the creator of the universe. I have no evidence to support this claim, but trust me, I am. I just wrote it down on a piece of paper, so it's just as believable as the bible. So obey me: live your life as you have this far, being a cool dude and shit, but just send me a 100€ every month, so once you die you'll be eternally happy etc. I guarantee it, no evidence to show naturally but trust me, it says so on the piece of paper I just wrote.
PM me for the address, and you can send this month's 100€ tomorrow. Kthxbye.
2012-10-15 19:51:30
Thats full of shit... everyone has faith in something otherwise no one would achieve anything. If you didn't believe in your own business for example how would you expect it to succeed. Where people gain happiness from shouldn't be your concern and should be respected, otherwise yes you are just an intolerable and ignorant person. I've got a few friends who are religious and as long as they don't try and shove it down my throat then why should I care??
Science cant prove everything, although it disproves a lot of religion but that doesnt give you the right to look down on those people.
Science cant prove everything, although it disproves a lot of religion but that doesnt give you the right to look down on those people.
2012-10-16 08:08:27
well said anyway
2012-10-16 11:40:19
+1
2012-10-16 11:38:12
http://i.imgur.com/fGelg.jpg
2012-10-15 18:28:17
so hardcore, I can call you a retard you won't be offended, I can insult you and your family, it's just whine from you if you're offended.
Great logic.
Great logic.
2012-10-15 18:59:44
nice, gl
2012-10-15 13:50:00
Only nasu can replace God :P Nice to see nasu and natu together again, gl guys!
2012-10-15 13:52:43
nasu and natu brothers? :D
2012-10-15 13:58:15
what a headline
2012-10-15 14:03:16
- reflex + lurpiss and again brothers in action )
2012-10-15 14:10:26
Hmm.. Usually I sacrifice pig for God but dunno about this new one.. How I pray for naSu?
2012-10-15 14:40:42
Waiting for lurppis to join...
..oh wait
..oh wait
2012-10-15 14:47:17
better have naSu than God
2012-10-15 14:53:36
With what logic can someone call himself God?
2012-10-15 14:54:24
Actually God is not successful nickname. It sounds too cocky. And its not good for professional player.
Ontopic: GL nasu!
Ontopic: GL nasu!
2012-10-15 15:01:27
naSu-dA-sAtaN 666
2012-10-15 15:02:23
is ASLAK playing cs:go btw ;d?
2012-10-15 15:04:46
aslak is in the army at least until january
2012-10-15 15:13:34
He is playing GO tho, would wanna add that
2012-10-15 15:46:03
A nice army you have
2012-10-15 16:15:48
Maybe it's like that ex-starcraft team of Korea's army :D
2012-10-15 17:38:38
I actually think people who played much fps (not so much cs 1.6 though, the graphics are way better in reality, and you actually do not run that much faster with a knife in your hand i bet) might have a slight advantage in the knowledge of being at war ;)
2012-10-16 02:04:57
Just... no :D
2012-10-16 16:02:13
They should get a player named Devil and switch him with God xD
2012-10-15 15:57:19
-allu +joelz
2012-10-15 16:00:06
Does God really exist or is it just your father dressed up?
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Post edited 2012-10-15 16:07:51
2012-10-15 16:07:14
no aslak no party
where's aslak? the most talented finnish nowadays
where's aslak? the most talented finnish nowadays
2012-10-15 16:15:16
army
2012-10-15 16:18:24
"Nasu" in Ukrainian and Russian language sounds like "to take a piss", the way we hear it ^_^
2012-10-15 16:38:16
"lurppis" in german sounds like "sucks a cock", the way we hear it :D
2012-10-15 16:54:40
Freedom of speech obviously.
2012-10-15 16:58:20
I love lurppis!
2012-10-15 17:05:52
it's only me thinking that all the fins are dumb or just lurrpis???
2012-10-15 17:25:41
not dumb and not all of them, but definitely lurppis is totally disrespectful
2012-10-15 17:41:21
nah only lurrpis is acting like a total cunt
2012-10-15 17:47:32
then why to leave if you don't believe in anything??? i hope that most of you guys beleive in god... and aren't atheists
2012-10-15 17:31:36
i believe in science, thank you sir
2012-10-15 17:48:52
lol :D even scientists believe in god and you believe in science? :D cool story brooo (as rahim says) =))
I hope you will agree that science and religion is different things... why are you comparing it?
I hope you will agree that science and religion is different things... why are you comparing it?
2012-10-15 17:52:18
a scientist who believes in god isn't a very common thing, nor are they likely to be very good at their profession.
science trumps religion. science proves a "god" doesn't exist, just like hell and heaven do not exist and we didn't all start from adam and eva in that garden with a snake...
science trumps religion. science proves a "god" doesn't exist, just like hell and heaven do not exist and we didn't all start from adam and eva in that garden with a snake...
2012-10-15 18:12:31
You know if adam and eva had been chinese we would'nt have problem now we would'nt have been banned from the garden of eden and we would be immortal. You know why? Becase they would have eaten the snake instead of the apple. :D
2012-10-15 18:59:49
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAOxY_nHdew
2012-10-15 19:51:11
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humour
2012-10-16 11:46:36
Well I agree with you on many arguments around this topic but science doesn't disprove the existence of god, per se. It gives rational evidence to the existence of our universe and thus makes the involvement of a deity very unlikely and unnecessary.
As in there is as much proof for the existence of Jahweh (christian deity) as there is towards Thor, Apollo or the Easterbunny.
Some scientists might be deists or something (as in "I believe there is a higher being somewhere.. I think...") but less than a percentage of all scientists are Theists, as you said.
As in there is as much proof for the existence of Jahweh (christian deity) as there is towards Thor, Apollo or the Easterbunny.
Some scientists might be deists or something (as in "I believe there is a higher being somewhere.. I think...") but less than a percentage of all scientists are Theists, as you said.
2012-10-15 19:41:33
based on current knowledge in science it is not possible to have the powers that a "god" supposedly has. that combined with the fact our "proof" of a "god" existing some 2000 years old books, i think it's a fair statement
2012-10-15 19:43:11
I still wouldn't claim anything without any scientific proof of it, as e.g. Richard Dawkins doesn't. To be fair, there is no possible way of disproving an imaginary being, like there is no way of disproving that Bigfoot doesn't exist, you just have to be really illogical (stupid may I say) to believe it does exist.
2012-10-15 19:48:26
I'll use this post to comment several things you've stated in this thread. Imo your statements start to get a bit too definitive. While I agree that to believe in a god is rather irrational, so is trusting that some concept called "science" will solve it all. Even though you talk about the big bang theory, there is and likely always will be the questions about where did any energy come from to begin with. How was it that the early universe before the big bang came to be?
In my lifetime I have yet to see a true scientist who thinks science can answer everything. The more you know, the better you notice that in fact you know nothing. Science as it is tries to find out (generalizing quite a lot here) what the laws of nature are and how they can be used to benefit humanity. The most difficult questions, such as why are the laws we observe the laws that exist and not something else entirely, or how did any kind of universe come to be, will likely never be answered. These are exactly the kind of things that may drive some people to believe in some all powerful being, while some others accept that they just will never know and choose to believe nothing.
You also commented on how 500 years in the future our generation might seem extremely stupid. In some ways I couldn't disagree more. Sure, the level of knowledge people have accumulates over time. But if you look at today's world, I would claim that the wisdom of people hasn't grown a single bit over the last thousands of years. People are still as petty and primitive in their desires as they ever were, they just know a bit more about the laws of nature to make some tasks automated. But even if one thinks about things only scientifically, I can't help but be in awe of people like Erastothenes who in his primitive time could determine the circumference of the Earth rather accurately, or a guy like Gauss who used modern algorithmic techniques like the fast fourier transform already in the early 1800's.
In my lifetime I have yet to see a true scientist who thinks science can answer everything. The more you know, the better you notice that in fact you know nothing. Science as it is tries to find out (generalizing quite a lot here) what the laws of nature are and how they can be used to benefit humanity. The most difficult questions, such as why are the laws we observe the laws that exist and not something else entirely, or how did any kind of universe come to be, will likely never be answered. These are exactly the kind of things that may drive some people to believe in some all powerful being, while some others accept that they just will never know and choose to believe nothing.
You also commented on how 500 years in the future our generation might seem extremely stupid. In some ways I couldn't disagree more. Sure, the level of knowledge people have accumulates over time. But if you look at today's world, I would claim that the wisdom of people hasn't grown a single bit over the last thousands of years. People are still as petty and primitive in their desires as they ever were, they just know a bit more about the laws of nature to make some tasks automated. But even if one thinks about things only scientifically, I can't help but be in awe of people like Erastothenes who in his primitive time could determine the circumference of the Earth rather accurately, or a guy like Gauss who used modern algorithmic techniques like the fast fourier transform already in the early 1800's.
2012-10-15 21:27:47
let's be real, no one who posted here believes in god because they looked at science and it couldn't answer the questions.
they believe in god because their parents told them about god, and then they went to church and all the other utter bullshit.
they believe in god because their parents told them about god, and then they went to church and all the other utter bullshit.
2012-10-15 22:47:02
Yes, that is probably true. Something that hooks people into following it blindly without thinking is always dangerous, which is my biggest objection to any religion. But still in my opinion there are almost equal levels of ignorance (well, not quite) available on the other side of the spectrum, and to put oneself on some high horse compared to others when one has very little insight into their thinking is quite misguided.
2012-10-15 23:00:17
Hello! What do you think about scientology?
2012-10-16 11:54:06
Well I don't feel too comfortable commenting on it because my knowledge is extremely limited. In general I think belonging to any "formal" group of people believing in something common is unnecessary. People should strive to think themselves instead of taking something some other people say as the ultimate truth, because that direction very often leads to misuse by those in positions of authority.
2012-10-16 12:44:18
"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Einstein
check pls :D
Einstein
check pls :D
2012-10-16 15:54:11
"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."
source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/may/12/peop..
source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/may/12/peop..
2012-10-16 18:38:27
Did you hear Atheists eat babies? That's a thing you know. Thank GOD Moses came down from mount Sinai with the ten commandments to give us some morality !! Because, you know, for 100.000-150.000 years (depends on which biologist you ask) we (humans, homo sapiens sapiens) went about and ATE OUR BABIES !
... no ?
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... no ?
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2012-10-15 19:45:13
Ancient human being wrote "Bible", create the "God" and ... You know that
2012-10-16 08:10:49
haha lurppis going atheist rage on internet :D lurppis, you still have a lot to learn
on topic: great news!
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on topic: great news!
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2012-10-15 17:37:47
i don't care if lurppis is atheist or whatever he is... He may be whatever he wants to be but, please, don't give us shit about your scient... I believe in god and i have faith, don't tell me what exists or not... keep your thoughts...
2012-10-15 17:45:29
200 comments, 20 about the topic
2012-10-15 17:47:07
lurrpis is right. We live in 2012. Science define us, is our primary source for life and opportunity for living. Religion is for weak or stupid people. Religion is aswell the main reason for war, but anyway people still talks about religion in year 2012. Fucking hillarious and pathetic.
2012-10-15 17:55:05
"The fanatical atheists, are like slaves who are still feeling the weight of their chains which
they have thrown of after hard struggle. They are creatures who--in their grudge against traditional religion as the 'opium of the masses'--cannot hear the music of the spheres."
~Albert Einstein
Don't get mad at me, he said it.
they have thrown of after hard struggle. They are creatures who--in their grudge against traditional religion as the 'opium of the masses'--cannot hear the music of the spheres."
~Albert Einstein
Don't get mad at me, he said it.
2012-10-15 18:02:10
Einstein nailing it as always.
You maybe an atheist, but that doesn't make you less of a fanatic.
You maybe an atheist, but that doesn't make you less of a fanatic.
2012-10-15 18:25:39
+1 that's the thing. fanatic people are the worst. whether it is religious or scientific fanaticism (or any else kind of fanaticism), it ultimately just shows people's stupidity and close-mindedness and quite usually insecurity.
2012-10-15 18:54:36
Perfect!
The biggest mind of them all even said that!
+1
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The biggest mind of them all even said that!
+1
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2012-10-15 19:05:05
Ironically Einstein and Marx (whom Einstein quoted) are historically one of the most misquoted people ever.
So Einstein was very clever and didn't like fanatical atheists, this proves what exactly?
He didn't believe in a personal god either, whether he was an agnostic or a deist, one could argue either way.
Post edited 2012-10-15 19:34:08
So Einstein was very clever and didn't like fanatical atheists, this proves what exactly?
He didn't believe in a personal god either, whether he was an agnostic or a deist, one could argue either way.
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2012-10-15 19:31:51
the solution for everyone on this very page is to stop talking about religions or god u have ur opinions keep them to urself if u don't want anyone to argue with u.. seriously if u belive in god u shouldn't type that everywhere and if u don't u shouldn't actually do the same keep ur opinions to urself.
2012-10-15 18:23:18
gl naSu =D
2012-10-15 18:36:30
It's funny that there is no common in the title and what lurppis wrote in very beginings...
Not all but most of scientists are fucking crazy... But they believe in god anyway :) This is the fact... If you don't want to believe in it's the different...
Not all but most of scientists are fucking crazy... But they believe in god anyway :) This is the fact... If you don't want to believe in it's the different...
2012-10-15 18:40:30
if scientists believe in god, who came up with the big bang theory?
2012-10-15 19:24:17
I dunno why you reply to some stupid people...
2012-10-15 19:28:11
consider it an experiment: i'm curious as to what people will reply
2012-10-15 19:37:00
awesome pickup, now where's plastE at?
2012-10-15 18:45:28
powerful lineup dude :D
2012-10-15 19:46:10
TL;DR VERSION
GOD ISNT A REAL
THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES STILL BELIEVE IN GOD
LURPISS LOOKS LIKE NASU
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GOD ISNT A REAL
THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES STILL BELIEVE IN GOD
LURPISS LOOKS LIKE NASU
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2012-10-15 19:52:35
i know one thing... first that god exists and second you will realize it but will be good if you do it soon and won't be late ;)
2012-10-15 19:56:14
lurppis why do you feel the need to try and start arguments on every single news post or thread? lets be honest, your an average at best failed 1.6 player with an attitude problem and no accomplishments in the real world hence your bitterness towards anyone and everything. do us all a favour mate and leave the scene get a job, a haircut and a gym membership and sort your life out. cheers.
2012-10-15 19:56:16
Yes, because a job, cool haircut and a gym membership is the measure of success and happiness...
fucking capitalist brainwashed cunt
fucking capitalist brainwashed cunt
2012-10-15 20:08:04
posting from my white iphone 5....
2012-10-15 20:26:55
registered to post it?
2012-10-15 20:30:57
No point in debating religious people, really. (that goes for christians and muslims ofc)
2012-10-15 20:05:38
Apart from ?
2012-10-15 20:14:33
There are many different definitions you can apply to the word "god".
I was talking about those people that are saying that god is an omnipotent invisible man with a white beard living in the clouds that cares for your personal affairs but would not feed the starving children in africa and loves you so much that he will condemn you to eternal torture if you dont lick his balls daily.
Post edited 2012-10-15 20:36:22
I was talking about those people that are saying that god is an omnipotent invisible man with a white beard living in the clouds that cares for your personal affairs but would not feed the starving children in africa and loves you so much that he will condemn you to eternal torture if you dont lick his balls daily.
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2012-10-15 20:36:08
My point was that it seemed like you were drawing towards only those two. I don't differentiate whether you believe in a (omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent) man with a beard, in a god that lives on planet kolob or the the Loch Ness Monster. : P
Maybe I should've written "as opposed to?", rather than apart from. I guess..
Post edited 2012-10-15 20:52:20
Maybe I should've written "as opposed to?", rather than apart from. I guess..
Post edited 2012-10-15 20:52:20
2012-10-15 20:49:14
Well yes, those are roughly the only two I have a real problem with. (there are surely some others but those are the main two)
I also don't differentiate between the "god of the clouds" and the "god of the planet what-the-fuck-ever" , but - as I said - god can be understood as something different than an allpowerfull anthropomorphic granddaddy (where he lives is kinda irrelevant).
I also don't differentiate between the "god of the clouds" and the "god of the planet what-the-fuck-ever" , but - as I said - god can be understood as something different than an allpowerfull anthropomorphic granddaddy (where he lives is kinda irrelevant).
2012-10-15 21:18:17
How about metzitzah b'peh, the Jewish tradition where a Mohel (rabbi of sorts) sucks the blood off the circumcised penis of an 8 year old infant, sometimes contracting herpes to the helpless 'victim'? Just to mention one.
Put Judaism in the same basket, my boy.
Put Judaism in the same basket, my boy.
2012-10-15 21:38:52
Yes, I should've mentioned judaism.
But wait, I thought we were talking about diferent conceptions of god, not different customes.
Cuz if you're gonna talk about the way of living, I might as well tell you that I'm disgusted by 99% of the western world.
But wait, I thought we were talking about diferent conceptions of god, not different customes.
Cuz if you're gonna talk about the way of living, I might as well tell you that I'm disgusted by 99% of the western world.
2012-10-15 21:59:21
I have no animosity towards someones faith (even though there are no logical claims for them), that to me is sacrosanct. As in I despise those who claim my beliefs are wrong. But if you draw to scripture or believe the earth is 6000 years old (funnily 4000 years after the Chinese invented pottery), I'll argue with you.
So in essence, I usually refer to religion or false claims. I don't hate anyone for believing in supernatural things and I certainly don't segregate/discriminate by criticizing only one or two religions.
Being disgusted by 99% of the western world seems a bit excessive.
So in essence, I usually refer to religion or false claims. I don't hate anyone for believing in supernatural things and I certainly don't segregate/discriminate by criticizing only one or two religions.
Being disgusted by 99% of the western world seems a bit excessive.
2012-10-15 22:11:03
I was talking about different conceptions of god I have a problem with. I don't know if we're on the same page here.
For instance, I find the notion of a man with a white beard in the skies quite stupid, but on the other hand, pantheism for instance doesn't seem as ridiculous and is IMO worthy of an argumented debate.
Also, I don't hate anyone either because hatred is for losers. And criticizing certain religions only and not all of them is no discrimination.
And why does that seem excessive to you ?
For instance, I find the notion of a man with a white beard in the skies quite stupid, but on the other hand, pantheism for instance doesn't seem as ridiculous and is IMO worthy of an argumented debate.
Also, I don't hate anyone either because hatred is for losers. And criticizing certain religions only and not all of them is no discrimination.
And why does that seem excessive to you ?
2012-10-15 22:26:53
now i am interested in if all fins are atheists??? :D
2012-10-15 20:33:25
Finland, it is argued, has the best educational system in the world. Thus Finnish people are educated, which leads to this thing called intelligence/awareness (what ever you want to call it) and, very often, atheism.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/08/16/b..
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/08/16/b..
2012-10-15 21:04:35
Not everyone. I don't personally know anyone that is extremely religious.
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2012-10-15 21:17:30
and who cares about ur opinions ? God is real and u will know that time u know it is late for u anyway :D hf with ur 1.6 u think ur Pro it is everything lol
2012-10-15 21:12:50
And who cares in your opinion ?
2012-10-15 21:18:52
I can't find any evidence for the existence of God, would you be kind enough to provide me with some?
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2012-10-16 18:00:19
here is a story, a true one: i was too late to go back home, its midnight there was no taxis and there was no possible way back, and then i saw a car just came from nowhere without a driver and gave me a lift.
2012-10-16 21:13:28
Seems legit.
2012-10-16 21:39:40
how can you not believe that and believe that the whole universe is without a maker?
2012-10-16 22:01:36
I believe in science, not fairy tales. As should everyone by now. There's a logical explanation for everything.
2012-10-16 22:06:38
you believe in science then? what about if i tell you that Quran gave some scientific facts that were proven today?
2012-10-16 23:04:31
I am not overly religious and having grown up Catholic I never believed in 'confession' telling my 'sins' to a human man 'ordained' by God(Church).
Having said that sex - religion - politics are the 3 no no's in discussion for most business'. If HLTV is simply a forum and not a business then have at it.
I run/own 3 health clubs and those 3 no no's are not discussed by my staff on our member forums, social media sites etc....
I think it's rather snot nosed brat-ish to read Lurppis remarks as a staff member/contributor to this site.
Having said that sex - religion - politics are the 3 no no's in discussion for most business'. If HLTV is simply a forum and not a business then have at it.
I run/own 3 health clubs and those 3 no no's are not discussed by my staff on our member forums, social media sites etc....
I think it's rather snot nosed brat-ish to read Lurppis remarks as a staff member/contributor to this site.
2012-10-15 21:22:13
Just by checking the latest threads, people discuss about Greenland, the British and horror movies. Why should this be any different? Why is it not appropriate or a tabu? Enlighten me, sir.
2012-10-15 21:42:17
Would've been hilarious if they replaced God with a player named Satan.
2012-10-15 21:47:21
ROFL :D
2012-10-15 23:43:53
Well, it would have been funnier if both actually shared the team...
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2012-10-16 02:01:33
"The top two of all time ranked Finnish Counter-Strike player Niko "naSu" Kovanen..."
I guess you must be number one then? Is that ranking official, I'd like to see it? ;)
I guess you must be number one then? Is that ranking official, I'd like to see it? ;)
2012-10-16 00:20:27
http://www.fragbite.se/?blogID=9&postID=268
2012-10-16 01:34:18
Thankfully naSu exists...
2012-10-16 00:53:00
Holy fuck. How are 2/3 of the posts on here about religion? Can't we all just be happy that God is being replaced by (IMO) a better player?
2012-10-16 04:57:14
lurppis is an atheist, I will have more respect on him =D
2012-10-16 07:58:50
Georges Lemaître.
2012-10-16 11:11:13
Good lineup, If this was 1.6, amazing, but its not. Anyway gl Kovanen
2012-10-16 11:16:34
and 0 comment about naSu's move.
2012-10-17 08:16:40
Lurppis as always, trollermann! :D But I like him! =DDD
2012-10-18 15:27:19
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