Tournaments set unified CS:GO rules
By: MIRAA
Time: 2012-10-15 19:58
Game: Counter-Strike: Global Offensive

Several tournament organisers have got together to come up with a unified rule-book for the CS:GO competitions.

With the latest installment in the Counter-Strike franchise still taking its first steps in terms of offline events, there have been several questions about the kind of rule-set that should be adopted, as we approach the ESWC finals and DreamHack Winter.

In order to prevent every tournament from having its own rules, the ESL, ESWC, SLAP Live, Copenhagen Games and Assembly Lan have convened to put together a rule-book which will be used in all competitions organised by these companies.

Below you can find the settings and map pool which will be adopted from now on:

  • 4 Grenades in total, 2 Flashes possible
  • cl_bobcycle 0.98 (standard)
  • weapon_debug_spread_show forbidden (has to be 0)
  • net_graph forbidden (has to be 0)
  • weapon_recoil_model (do not use or alter)
  • mat_hdr_level (do not use or alter)
  • In general all weapons and grenades are allowed

Mappool:

  • de_inferno_se
  • de_dust2_se
  • de_train_se
  • de_nuke_ve
  • de_mirage_csgo

The most controversial aspect of this rule-book is that the Molotov grenades will be allowed, despite the fact that many professional players have publicly declared that they are against this decision.

According to a statement issued by Alexander "crtmN" Nehr of the ESL on behalf of these five event organisers,the Molotov grenades "will be monitored closely", but "for now" will be allowed in all tournaments.

Two notable absentees in this agreement between tournament organisers are of couse DreamHack, which will put togeter a $50,000 CS:GO tournament next month, and E-Sports Entertainment (ESEA).

still waiting for tuscan
2012-10-15 19:59:43
r u play de_tuscan_fixes_csgo ? :)
That's pretty nice map.

http://gamebanana.com/csgo/maps/169451
2012-10-15 21:11:38
threes on that map are not necessary :)
2012-10-15 22:10:18
still waiting for brutes's
2012-10-15 22:26:18
Good
2012-10-15 20:00:07
wrong reply sry :]

Post edited 2012-10-15 21:11:27
2012-10-15 21:11:02
Just waiting for them to ban molotocv and train te instead of se

Post edited 2012-10-15 20:01:21
2012-10-15 20:00:59
how is that map different?
2012-10-15 20:02:53
te is an 1.6 copy I think
2012-10-15 20:08:16
not a great idea then
copying old versions maps is more retarded than playing the train current version

Post edited 2012-10-15 20:12:34
2012-10-15 20:12:13
Considering they moved the outside bombsite into the middle of yard and put in an extra "heaven" -- no, it's not retarded, they are just fixing a map that got terribly broken when it got ported to GO.
2012-10-15 20:15:01
didnt say playing the old version, i said copying
and yes u're right about the map, it sucks
but it's a new game and it would be nice to fix what community doesnt like, but not make exactly the same, no sense
2012-10-15 20:18:20
so why change it if it was perfect? just "to change it"? it is retarded to touch something that was perfect. Just like what happened with inferno, inferno_se SUCKS ass
2012-10-15 20:57:35
de_train was perfect? Are you kiddin me? There was always scores like 11-4 for CT's.
2012-10-16 01:43:10
de_train has always been extremely ct-sided, far from perfect I'd say
2012-10-16 04:37:15
only things they need to fix on train_se are placing off certain trains and poles etc, bomb train is fine where it is as it has refreshed outside strats and setups so it isnt the same old bland set ups and shit. and tweaking trains slightly so they are more balanced, so people cant shoot through the metal parts at the bottom and stuff
2012-10-15 20:22:11
You are right. :o)
2012-10-15 20:18:20
u are wrong, train is stupid now. 100%
2012-10-15 20:56:42
Sorry but standard CSGO train and inferno blow dicks... and molotovs are retarded.
2012-10-15 20:01:17
+1
2012-10-15 20:12:25
+1
2012-10-15 20:15:24
Whose dick do they blow? Players or spectators? It's a win-win situation anyways!
2012-10-15 20:23:38
Too much The Office dude... heheh
2012-10-15 20:33:49
LOL
2012-10-15 20:51:38
Damn! I've never seen a single episode of The Office!
2012-10-15 20:57:15
You definitely should!
2012-10-19 09:57:55
+1
2012-10-15 20:30:02
+666
train and inferno are the worst maps, need to play remakes !
2012-10-15 23:24:36
inferno is pretty fine, train is the worst, yeah... I don't necessarily want the A plant spot to change back to source/1.6 spot but the whole map is just too open/closed (depending on where you are, B site too open, A site too closed)

It's just not the train we know, the question is - it's a new game, do we want it to be like and old one?
2012-10-22 01:18:52
Agree, but inferno house... srsly ?
That's shit man, at least they should fix that and make 1 normal sniper tower not some shitty paths
2012-10-22 13:01:38
I don't have a problem with inferno, it's only about getting used to it. Though a sniper tower would be nice :)
2012-10-22 17:29:24
+1
2012-10-16 00:30:20
noobs , why allow molotvs??? noobs
2012-10-15 20:01:32
by: mikep
#8
motofail
2012-10-15 20:03:27
fuck molo
whata shame
2012-10-15 20:05:18
It's time for the players to talk between each other and agree to not to use molotovs.
2012-10-15 20:05:29
this

Post edited 2012-10-15 20:06:24
2012-10-15 20:06:16
yeah, that will happen...
2012-10-15 22:27:34
until someone get mad by loosing a round, and next round stop a rush b whit a molotov, then it all to hell haha
2012-10-16 01:32:35
epic molofail
2012-10-15 20:05:51
I cant understand why they use so many maps(te se ve bla bla bla)? is it not possible to make one!?
2012-10-15 20:07:22
My thoughts exactly, but seems like Valve just doesnt have people smart enough working for them who can make a good competitive map.
2012-10-15 20:23:23
Obviously _se is valve version of competitive one, _lettere (_te, _ve) is a version from community that doesn't agree with se ones
2012-10-15 22:29:52
ye ofc this are the rules, but if the two oppontents set their own rules...
so if they dont want to play with molotov, then they can play without it.
2012-10-15 20:08:14
ULTIMATE TRIPLE FACEPALM... they know that players hate molotovs and they want to cancel them, but the league admins are deaf
2012-10-15 20:11:18
soooo allow molotovs and add more time in the round :), i know its not even a solution but can help in some diferent stuff (more tatical game HEHE)
2012-10-15 20:11:28
MOLOTOV
2012-10-15 20:12:54
What is wrong with u guys just ban that f'cking molo
2012-10-15 20:13:43
BAN MOTOV , _CE mapy (cevo),
2012-10-15 20:13:58
Yay! using pro teams as guinea pigs to see how broken incendiary and molotovs are, good stuff valve.Feel sorry for all the ppl that preordered this incomplete mess of a "game", keep on believing the lies of mods tellin us that updates will make it as good as 1.6 or ,at least, a viable competitive game when they only care about the csgotv.
2012-10-15 20:18:53
Allowing molotovs on professional tournaments will just make game even worse... seems like GO downwill won't stop soon:

http://steamgraph.net/index.php?action=graph&j..
2012-10-15 20:20:27
funny thing, that GO doesn´t reach numbers of 12 years old game even after releasing..
2012-10-15 20:46:35
Imo a Molotow is a trademark terrorist weapon and things wouldn't be so broken if only terrorists were using it.
Cts could have their own unique weapon as well for example.
2012-10-15 20:28:24
a redeemer?
2012-10-15 21:00:35
like somebody suggested on steam forums, for cts to have fire extinguisher :D
edit: i dont mind molotovs, allow it for now, and if later it's still a problem for some people, thaen ban it, not now.

Post edited 2012-10-15 21:25:53
2012-10-15 21:24:55
Rocket launcher?
2012-10-16 07:37:47
HLTV asked pro players: they say no molotov
what tournaments do? they allow it
what the hell ...

Post edited 2012-10-15 20:45:01
2012-10-15 20:44:39
So they are going together aginst the scene? O_o
2012-10-15 21:01:42
What was the sense of the meeting, they still didn't ban molotovs.
2012-10-15 21:10:51
molotov allowed rofl
2012-10-15 21:15:01
I was like this:
http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i49/5/7/10/frabz-wut-345..
2012-10-16 07:36:47
Lets introduce some new maps instead of same maps in map pool.
2012-10-15 21:23:32
by: lEd
#52
I hate inferno_se! INFERNO_CE for all tourney's
2012-10-15 21:27:48
why net_graph 0?
2012-10-15 21:45:31
i guess for the same reason it was banned in 1.6.. :s
2012-10-15 22:28:16
what's that reason?
2012-10-16 01:34:14
i think that when an opponent gets close to u, u can see it in the net numbers or something
2012-10-16 01:36:25
like the ms or sth changes? get high or get down? then yes, has to be completelly ilegal
2012-10-16 02:26:01
I think that eventually the only standard map will be dust, prefer all the community versions made for the others!
2012-10-15 21:56:37
FPS GAMES ARE DEAD ?
2012-10-15 22:52:35
1999-2012 and tournament organizers still don't seem to get it... Amazing :o
2012-10-15 23:03:56
de_inferno_se
de_train_se
this maps is ugly and unplayable
2012-10-15 23:15:16
do u know de_train_te?

http://gamebanana.com/csgo/maps/169539
2012-10-16 14:09:38
So autosnipers are allowed? gg

They also need other maps like Tuscan and a remake of train and inferno like their, MUCH better 1.6 counterparts...
2012-10-15 23:34:02
Almost the same maps for more 10 years?
2012-10-15 23:57:15
by: naks
#66
so bad mappol, where is inferno_ce, other train and tuscan?
2012-10-16 00:02:11
inferno_ce has some issues with the map (a few original glitches and bugs that haven't been addressed, as it was a pure 1.6 port, and the person who ported it forgot this was on a source engine), and tuscan is not the official tuscan made by brutesmaps who has earlier confirmed he was working on his.

Even then they can add maps when they do come out to their rotations.
2012-10-16 01:35:59
Where did you get the idea that its a 1.6 port? The csgo SDK comes with the base map .vmf files, including inferno. All of them are reskinned source maps, sorry to burst your bubble. Ce is no exception, its base is 100% source derrived, the changes were inspired by successful 1.6 spacial relationships, they were not pasted as you would like to lead everyone to believe.

I suggest you first gather your own conclusions by downloading the map and playing a few rounds on it before giving others false information.
2012-10-31 11:30:47
I'm glad that players don't get to make the rules the tournament organizers do that have no idea what there doing it's pretty sick.
2012-10-16 01:05:29
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#74
I hope ESL staff don't end up burnt if they get too close while monitoring crtmN

LoL
2012-10-16 02:07:45
I am the best at molotovs. The only reason everyone wants them banned is because of me.
2012-10-16 02:09:11
by: GoMeZ - HLTV.org
#77
ive seen your stream. average nade tossing at best. :)
2012-10-16 03:29:46
Stealing ma jokes
2012-10-17 06:22:09
Mongs
2012-10-16 04:09:46
de_inferno_ce is way better, why they want to ppl play this shitty one :<
2012-10-16 13:20:56
by: uno1
#84
Molo's are so boring and shitty imo..
2012-10-16 13:22:36
w00t
2012-10-16 14:54:29
Please use inferno_ce and train_te!! plz!!!
The current train and inferno are just awful!
Also there should be some new maps for competitive scene not always that old school maps been played for thousands of years. Waiting for some good maps
2012-10-16 17:06:17
Best decision is to leave molotovs for the time being. It would be a shame to get rid of them without properly investigating them in competitive game-play.

However, I can see them being banned in the near future. It's good they're not just caving into the players, and I'm sure they are taking their suggestions into consideration.
2012-10-17 01:52:09
So The whole team Can only buy 4 grenades and max 2 flashbangs???????
2012-10-17 02:20:50
LOL WHAT?
2012-10-17 22:51:35
Sorry my bad ;-) Misunderstood the thing

Post edited 2012-10-18 03:55:31
2012-10-18 03:55:18
:D
2012-10-19 05:54:34
by: BiG-
#91
Molotov?!?!
2012-10-17 07:44:46
Good about grenades, cl_bobcycle, mat_hdr_level but command "weapon_debug_spread_show" they should fix it but not block it.

http://64bitvps.com/csgo/ticket/command-weapon_deb..

Maps inferno_se should be changed to inferno_ce and train_se to train_te.

Post edited 2012-10-17 14:15:07
2012-10-17 14:13:57
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