Brute: "de_tuscan almost ready"
By: MIRAA
Time: 2012-10-20 19:31
Game: Counter-Strike: Global Offensive

Colin "Brute" Volrath, the creator of de_tuscan, has indicated that the highly-popular map will be available for CS:GO in the space of weeks.

With CS:GO still taking its first steps in terms of offline events, many have been wondering about when a CS:GO version of de_tuscan will be ready so that the tournaments can have a wider map pool.

Volrath, who also created de_forge and de_russka, believes that de_tuscan for CS:GO will be ready in time for DreamHack Winter, but alerted that the map may slightly differ from his 1.6 and CS:Source versions.

"It is coming along very well," he told Vakarm.net. "I'm really putting in the hours this past month and the remainder of October to get this map completed.

"The map needs to be adjusted and changed based on the environmental play of CS:GO. The physical layout of the map is not going to change much, if anything, however.

"But the actual look and feel of the map is going to change, it needs to look more open and take full advantage of the Source engine's awesome power, that the old 1.6 engine just was not able to handle.

"As for game-play I have not really received much negative feedback on what anyone likes or dislikes with this map, so the map is going to stay the same gameplay-wise unless something changes in the next two weeks from the community."

In this interview, Volrath also talks about how he started creating maps, sheds some light on the extremely complicated process of creating a map that can be used competitively and also explains why he thinks de_mirage should not be used in tournaments. You can find the rest of the interview by going here.

n11!!
2012-10-20 19:31:45
:D
2012-10-20 19:32:02
very nice
2012-10-20 19:33:08
by: RayX
#4
WOWOWOOW
2012-10-20 19:33:15
nice :)
2012-10-20 19:34:08
great, keep it up
2012-10-20 19:34:13
nice
2012-10-20 19:34:30
Needs moar Screenshots
2012-10-20 19:35:29
We asked but no answers on this point :D
2012-10-20 19:40:04
screenshots are always a positive thing, no matter what aspect of the game a developer is working on. keeps the community in the loop and adds to hype, but whatever.
2012-10-20 23:45:49
i'll do my best to post a few later this week, they will be developmental screenshots from earlier this month, but it's better than nothing :)
2012-10-28 20:01:50
Niceee >D
2012-10-20 19:36:32
Great stuff...
2012-10-20 19:36:32
IF YOU READY, SAY HELL YEAH!
2012-10-20 19:36:57
Thank god, the Valve GO versions of the classic maps are just terrible for competitive play. Hopefully Tuscan will be used more than train_se, inferno_se and dust2_se.

Post edited 2012-10-20 19:40:02
2012-10-20 19:37:17
GJ
2012-10-20 19:37:17
n1, keep moving cs:go
2012-10-20 19:39:00
Excellent
2012-10-20 19:41:30
thx you <3
2012-10-20 19:42:20
thanks you
2012-10-20 21:05:22
YEEEY
2012-10-20 19:47:02
hurry up :p
2012-10-20 19:47:22
by: Dok1
#22
really looking forward!
2012-10-20 19:48:20
Oh yeah ,about time they ported de_tuscanAwsome !
2012-10-20 19:49:58
As much as I like tuscan... I really want to see NEW competetive maps in GO. Playing basically the same maps for up to 10 years now.
2012-10-20 19:51:45
I agree with you. mirage, tuscan and 3 new maps would be amazing :)
2012-10-20 20:51:44
YES!
2012-10-20 20:03:16
nice :DD
2012-10-20 20:07:01
nice :)
2012-10-20 20:09:38
good news :)
2012-10-20 20:10:25
by: sike
#34
I think they should revamp de_dust not dust2 to make it more competitive cbble and Aztec to. Lets see dead maps.brought back to life! :) of course some brand new maps to. I liked russka in 1.6

Post edited 2012-10-20 20:15:17
2012-10-20 20:14:02
by: htym
#36
as_oilrig too

Post edited 2012-10-20 20:22:23
2012-10-20 20:22:05
by: sike
#86
Haha that would be badass. :P

Post edited 2012-10-21 18:12:50
2012-10-21 18:12:28
They already made de_dust a little more competitive by adding some stuff to the map
2012-10-20 20:55:38
no.
2012-10-20 21:06:29
yep, it's a pretty good map now
2013-02-04 16:03:31
2012-10-20 21:06:29
2013-02-04 18:12:25
my bad, didn't see that :D
2013-02-04 21:42:04
de_aztec2 maybe?
2012-10-21 04:36:26
I agree with Aztec,with the little imagination it should be possible to adjust it to be competitive ,but de_dust is impossible ..I never played such imbalanced map as de_dust
2013-02-04 15:52:56
finally
2012-10-20 20:25:19
"in the space of weeks" What?

"With CS:GO still taking its first steps in terms of offline events" What?

"Volrath... alerted that the map may slightly differ from his 1.6 and CS:Source versions" Really?
2012-10-20 20:34:15
I don't really understand your confusion
2012-10-20 20:47:38
+1
2012-10-20 21:13:38
Well you are a saucer, go figure
2012-10-21 02:01:13
I think it's more the fact you are confused for no reason
2012-10-21 03:08:41
Well you're a 1.6 basher, go figure .!.
2012-10-21 07:32:47
We all know you brits have no thumbs, thats why you play source ..!.,

EDIT: There's still brits on the New World http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ruO4dwLC94

Post edited 2012-10-21 12:41:15
2012-10-21 12:39:18
Sex?
2012-10-21 17:37:18
good map, n1 !!!
2012-10-20 20:53:24
Do not use on de_mirage tournament? he is probably Dement? de_mirage and de_nuke_ve best maps in GO ...... I hope that the view is not limited individual opinion of the community
2012-10-20 21:01:53
he is probably dement? :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2012-10-20 22:54:58
He says it because whoever made it didn't credit/consult the original maker of cpl_strike lol. And he moans about a few tiny visual stuff he doesn't like, but seems to not realise just how good of a competitive map mirage is lol.
2012-10-21 14:13:55
my comments were that the map was not transitioned into cs:go, it's the same exact map, there's nothing new or creative about this map, and yes they didn't credit the original authors at all.

in general, just a lazy port
2012-10-28 20:03:07
What if... he renamed it to le_tuscan? How cool is that huh?
2012-10-20 21:02:11
hahaha
2012-10-20 21:07:07
*megusta*
2012-10-20 21:22:38
:D:D:DD:D:D:D:D
2012-10-20 22:54:35
hahaha but why?
2012-10-21 03:42:39
GOOD
2012-10-20 21:04:53
awesome!
2012-10-20 21:22:07
Shame it wont be ready before eswc..
2012-10-20 21:26:05
nicee!
2012-10-20 21:48:35
really nice
2012-10-20 21:58:19
keep doing!
2012-10-20 22:01:50
gReAt
2012-10-20 22:04:20
so much looking forwards to play tuscan!!
2012-10-20 22:06:17
the best map ever
2012-10-20 23:02:33
pics or it didnt happen
2012-10-21 00:03:01
Good stuff. Hopefully the ceilings of middle and the bottom of kitty/cat are raised a little. I'd personally also like the ground to be flat in middle and A site and not have bumps like the source version does.

Also, remove the damn tree.

Either way, it's still a good map.
2012-10-21 00:08:15
we'll look into this, no one has mentioned this before so if you can provide more information about people wanting this it's a possibility to be adjusted.

Post edited 2012-10-28 20:04:30
2012-10-28 20:04:00
Glad he's almost done with tuscan. However, the nuke_se just wasn't good. It wasn't adding new strategies, it was eliminating them and making the game more linear. That was so brutally obvious. As for train, I like some of the _se changes but it's too clunky (and then you go inner where there's virtually no cover all through the middle of it). The map is just too problematic. Not saying I agree with a new train that's identical to 1.6/css. But the current version isn't good. Looks like what you would release for a beta version of a map. The only thing keeping it played is that it's new for CS:GO. If that was recreated in 1.6/css it wouldn't be touched, not just because it's not like the old ones but because it's just not a good map.

And lastly, mirage is better than strike. That's been recognized for a while now. It makes taking B a lot more viable. I don't know about the whole argument of the copyrighting etc. But for the maps themselves, I never want to see strike in if mirage is available.
2012-10-21 00:42:01
i agree mirage is better than strike, but the map is extremely ugly for a CS:GO map.

it just doesn't look good.
2012-10-28 20:05:14
nice news
2012-10-21 04:37:35
Great news, hopefully they make mansion map with a secret path when using piano in the corner :DD
2012-10-21 12:18:03
great interview
2012-10-22 19:42:07
when is this map gonna be ready?
brute needs to hurry up or let someone else finish this map.
2013-02-04 15:19:16
this :)
2013-02-04 15:31:40
true story fement!
2013-02-04 15:35:29
we are lucky if it ever finnishes
2013-02-04 15:38:16
brute just trolling community. some attention seeker it seems..

He modyfied tuscan from mill in 1.6 and thats it. Nothing more will happen from him.
2013-02-04 15:43:00
It's not his map, is it?
2013-02-04 15:44:35
tuscan is a copy of mill map, he did not create it..


mill>tuscan
2013-02-04 18:39:35
I know that tuscan is a copy of CPL mill since CPL didn't allow others to use their map. So they created tuscan and tuscan was/is cool in 1.6!
Though Brute didn't create the CS:GO bill_b1 map I think. That's why I was asking.
2013-02-04 19:28:44
4 months ago...

is brute dead?
2013-02-04 15:48:43
Haha good bump. "It will be ready in a few more weeks", 12 weeks later and we're still left holding our cocks.
2013-02-04 16:01:15
Comon brute. You're losing all the respect from the cs community.
2013-02-04 16:07:15
Yea, it's been some time and still nothing. He could at least say something like "I have some commitments, don't have time" or give some real date. But no, nothing said. Let's hope his map will be perfect then.
2013-02-04 16:10:09
brute royally fucked us...
2013-02-04 18:30:54
He wants money to finish the map :/
2013-02-04 18:35:59
This legit?
2013-02-04 18:37:28
http://www.vakarm.net/forums/topic/tuscan/745

he send a mail to brute and got this response:

Hello,

I didn't create de_season, you would need to speak to the mapmaker that created that map to see how / if the progress of that map is coming along.

I also messaged ESL, ESEA, and CEVO about fair compensation to work on Tuscan for CS:GO back in the summer of 2012 but was ignored by every league other than CEVO in terms of being sufficiently commissioned to work on the map in a speedy manner. This isn't my full-time job mind you and I'm investing all of my free-time outside of my full-time job after hours to get this done. Not that any of that matters but sometimes being adequately respected and paid helps people push themselves harder and faster when more than one league is compensating you for the 40+ hours being put into this map project. Just something to think about for the future when it comes to these map creations.

I'm sure the "community" can understand that, and while I would love for this to be my full-time job, currently it is not. Such is life. I'm busting my butt to get this done as quickly as one person can. I hope you can understand that.


Regards,
2013-02-04 19:37:55
Cool, thanks. There are millions of other map makers that would gladly make tuscan for free though, and I understand it's fair for him to want cash, but just disappearing and not giving the community any updates is a bit irresponsible.
2013-02-04 19:41:11
in other words, fuck this guy and fuck this map. new games = new maps please. no use sulking around waiting for some dickhead mapmaker while he holds the community 'hostage'
2013-02-04 19:43:18
fuck this stupid map, i enjoy the version of MILL already on esea servers....why do we need another mill ripoff when we already have a good one?
2013-02-04 18:37:27
tuscan > mill imo in 1.6
2013-02-04 18:52:53
same source :)
2013-02-04 18:55:50
Nice :)
2013-02-04 19:06:14
2012-10-20 19:31

dont get ur hopes up
2013-02-04 19:08:30
If the creator of de_mill_B2 can manage to make a quite flawless underground-passage that map will be amongst the core.
2013-02-04 22:01:35
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