CS:GO TV release in time for ESWC
By: lurppis
Time: 2012-10-23 04:11
Game: Counter-Strike: Global Offensive

Valve has now via Twitter confirmed the release of a TV client for Counter-Strike: Global Offensive in time for the upcoming ESWC 2012 on November 1-4.

Following the rumours we posted just days ago, CS:GO developer team has now confirmed that a CS:GO TV client will be released in time for the upcoming ESWC, set to begin in just over a week.


CS:GO dev team confirm imminent release of CS:GO TV 

While they did not release much details on how the client will work or what features it will have, they shared the following picture on Twitter, which shows that you can now draw on the map to for example illustrate strategies teams are using.


Being able to draw on the overview map is a new feature of CS:GO TV  

HLTV.org will naturally be on-site in Paris to provide you full coverage of the first major event in CS:GO's history. Now you will be able to also watch the likes of NiP and mousesports go head to head in the $20,000 tournament.

NIIIICE!!
2012-10-23 04:13:48
by: koth
#2
time to steal some strats and smokes!
2012-10-23 04:14:28
by: DUZ
#3
WWWWWWWHATTT ****

Awesome!!!!
2012-10-23 04:14:36
Finally.
2012-10-23 04:14:48
by: wazer
#5
Thank you VALVe when will you put money into cspromod for stealing the "great" ideas n layout by yours.
2012-10-23 04:14:53
Probably when Promod pay valve for using the name Counter strike.

Post edited 2012-10-23 05:23:07
2012-10-23 05:22:50
I thought they are not allowed to use the counter strike name.
2012-10-23 06:11:56
Why it's called CSPromod and not Counter-Strike: Promod.
2012-10-23 06:21:24
95%+ of CSPromod is not original content, so what's the big deal?

Post edited 2012-10-24 23:17:05
2012-10-24 23:16:38
Awesome news.
2012-10-23 04:15:00
awesome :D
2012-10-23 04:15:53
about time
2012-10-23 04:18:07
Yeeeesss hope they release it a week early incase it has bugs etc
2012-10-23 04:18:47
lol +1
2012-10-23 10:22:21
Finally!
2012-10-23 04:19:36
Amazing
2012-10-23 04:22:01
Can't wait for the event. :p
2012-10-23 04:28:26
YESSSS :D GJ VALVE!
2012-10-23 04:32:25
Verrrry nice :)
2012-10-23 04:34:48
So fucking awesome, now the game is very close to complete. gogogo support cs:go and we will have another 6-7 years atleast.
2012-10-23 04:36:59
no we wont this game needs like 150 more updates to be playable for competetiv. We will most likely dont get them becous valve is slacking shit company.
2012-10-23 11:36:01
they are too busy with dota 2 :D
2012-10-23 11:44:30
Looks awesome, ESWC is going to be a great event for CS:GO
2012-10-23 04:57:51
nice
2012-10-23 05:07:31
by: kab
#19
Good news, now I wonder how the shooting will look like in CSGO TV... Though, it will probably be same as in source... sigh...
2012-10-23 05:14:39
Don't have a clue how it looked like in Source, though now in GO when you're spectating someone in-game, it looks like a 1.6 HLTV, so I guess it should be the same on GOTV. Just a wild guess though
2012-10-23 12:01:28
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#125
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56kzHMvMWzA -- it looks as if there was no recoil because there is no shaking of the screen when you shoot, that's why imo it looks like shit when you watch people. hopefully cs:go's tv won't have the same issue.
2012-10-23 15:24:25
Id prefer it simply track mouse movements like in Sourcetv than the laggy crap bumpy look of shooting in HLTV
2012-10-23 16:43:46
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#145
First time I've heard that, each to their own I guess...
2012-10-23 17:04:08
LOL, it looks horrible compared to HLTV. Obviously you haven't played 1.6 neither watched demos, you just saw interp'd highlights.

Please keep playing Source if you enjoy that, we don't need awful features in CSGO.

Post edited 2012-10-23 18:04:12
2012-10-23 17:59:34
u srsly dont know who lurppis is? :D:DD:D

Post edited 2012-10-23 18:16:04
2012-10-23 18:15:16
wrong reply? I'm talking to the other guy.

Post edited 2012-10-23 18:20:22
2012-10-23 18:19:53
then its time for me to get those glasses! cheers
2012-10-23 22:45:27
what the fuck are you talking about? we arent talking about features, we talking about how mechanics look in spectator mode. Anyone who watches HLTV knows its never smooth and the recoil randomly jumps around. The gun animations are broken.

I will say in 1.5 HLTV looked and operated smoothly but now its nothing but lag. If you watch someone spray an entire clip the crosshair will jump up like once every 3 shots. Id prefer it be like sourcetv because way smoother and pleasing to the eye, as anything spectator related should be.
2012-10-26 00:47:23
You must be kidding, HLTV runs smoothly if the HLTV server is alright. funny you mention 1.5, have you seen one of those HeatoN demos? they look lagged as fuck.
2012-10-26 03:29:19
Yeah, hopefully they will fix it*

Post edited 2012-10-23 17:55:27
2012-10-23 17:49:18
i thought there is no shaking of the screen ingame too
2012-10-23 21:18:49
Nice!
2012-10-23 06:02:20
a good update after a long time
2012-10-23 06:12:46
nice :)
2012-10-23 06:51:53
The best update! :D
2012-10-23 06:56:41
is it possible to use its own Specator Huds? http://imgur.com/a/wwZtm
2012-10-23 07:24:37
That looks absolutely fantastic! Much better than default spectator hud!
2012-10-23 08:15:04
thank you I will build even more: D I just need creative ideas:>
2012-10-23 08:26:53
Maybe hud should be a bit smaller? And those CT and T health bars to be attached to edges so hud wouldn't take so much space! And the top scores also a bit smaller? But just my feelings how to improve your hud! :D
2012-10-23 10:40:56
use "hud_scale 0.5" 0o
2012-10-23 12:35:00
Go to video settings and alter the hud scale ;)
2012-10-23 12:45:29
regnam is making an eswc gui so..
2012-10-23 11:35:33
PLAYER gui for players to change their settings... I believe hes not doing a spectator gui?
2012-10-23 12:20:59
yeeeboyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
2012-10-23 08:00:13
i think that the things will start to change after this update. awzum!!!
2012-10-23 08:36:48
They will,rumours on the pro circuit is that valve is also working on some movement changes comming out in november.
2012-10-23 08:38:26
thanks for the information, i want to see the 2 continents unite again to play one game.
2012-10-23 08:42:01
http://imgur.com/a/Uq3oY

doubt it
2012-10-23 14:28:01
Please stop hating.Those mean absolutely nothing lol.
2012-10-23 14:31:15
"it pretty much came down to valve/hpe not wanting to support bunnyhopping/other mechanics because they look silly"
2012-10-23 14:32:22
Nice bit of professionalism from Valve, and a nice valid reason for why they shouldn't have implemented a decent movement system. /sarcasmON
2012-10-23 15:51:20
well bunnyhop is possible in cs:go so whats the deal with that? Its just fine as it is now.. just a little more airaccel and everything is more than perfect. I mby miss duckpeek over boxes but thats rly just a bug in the firstplace :)
2012-10-23 16:27:44
bhopping is possible only to a small extent due to the "kneebending" that appears when you land. airaccel + no bending = 1:1 1.6 copy

however, you can bhop upwards perfectly in GO. fuck logic

Post edited 2012-10-23 16:37:36
2012-10-23 16:37:12
Good news indeed :-)
2012-10-23 08:43:55
awesome!!!
2012-10-23 08:48:20
YEAH!!! and with some additions <33
2012-10-23 09:10:57
People failed to see team flag feature on this screenshot :p
2012-10-23 09:27:14
by: Dok1
#52
I hope the gotv demos will work properly :)
2012-10-23 09:55:06
you gonna play csgo competitive or stay as a manager? :)
2012-10-23 09:56:46
i'm not a manager :)

I will be shoutcaster eswc finals on site but I really don't know what i'm going to do next, too much possibilities.
2012-10-23 11:12:02
Go work for Valve ;)
2012-10-23 12:44:32
I thought you were VG's team manager, sorry :)

you will? ill for sure tune in then :P
2012-10-23 17:28:49
ye tell valve that English flag is white with red cross . The one they use is British .
2012-10-23 13:40:34
well, it says United Kingdom not England, so the flag's right.
2012-10-23 16:10:37
It says England
2012-10-24 00:48:51
In the long run it's going to be completely useless unless they also added variations of flags (flags with 2 to 5 different flags inside them, flagception). With a newer netcode and better internet it's now viable to have multicultural teams.
2012-10-23 17:26:22
by: uno1
#47
good, but still need -molotov and it will be better
2012-10-23 09:32:08
We need top teams to talk to tournament organisers for that tbh.I dont think valve will remove it.
2012-10-23 09:34:38
by: uno1
#49
ofc i mean "tournaments organisers", molotov is okay for public players to have some fun etc., but for competitive playing its shit imo
2012-10-23 09:39:39
by: -DK-
#50
hmmm not sure whether to support than idea or not...sure molotov is a major pain in the a but if allowed, it also gives a complete new strat set to the game
2012-10-23 09:46:32
i dont know what sucks more, 5 molotovs trown while you're trying to rush, or doing a fast tactic or that some tournaments allow them some others no and you don't know how to make your tactics. Believe me the molotovs must be banned.
2012-10-23 09:53:36
Why are people still complaining about molotovs? Both teams can buy it, no one will buy it if money system is near eco. If they suck so bad how people say, they will be banned then
2012-10-23 13:40:55
i like go, but it needs some important updates, this game with molotovs is so fucking boring to watch... you will see what a passive games will be at eswc. The terrorists in the first 30 seconds of every round will play it slowly, will fake an entrance with flashes and smokes only to make the defending team to trow their molotovs... or there is another option :the ct side will push with molotovs on every site and will rape the terrorist because they will have advanced and better positions. I don't want a game based on molotovs for christ's sake, you people complain everyday about cs:go because its not competitive; well the molotovs surelly they aren't.
2012-10-23 13:59:17
Like I said both teams can buy it and no one actually has the advantage. If terrorists will manage to plant the bomb its going to be the same crap as CT's pushing with molotovs, but the terrorists will have to defend it and they will surely use molotovs. If they will badly unbalance the game than they will be banned from serious tournaments
2012-10-23 14:10:37
Then again we will miss some great action in the future cause of overly-used of molotov in the game.

For molotov to be introduced is interesting though it's defensive capability is a bit unbalanced I think. There will be less retaking action from CT as well as a great rush from T.
2012-10-23 16:56:47
Agree
2012-10-23 17:06:49
its up to the tourney organizers to listen to the players and ban molotovs just like they did for shields
2012-10-23 16:18:14
i disagree... molotov completely stop early rushes in the beggiging of the round which sucks :/
2012-10-23 09:56:09
Great news, looks good!
2012-10-23 10:15:24
-molotvs
+some other movement changes
+GOTV
+some decent rules and settings for all
=win
2012-10-23 10:24:08
-p90 this gun is too powerfull and got 50 bellets
-power of all "SMG'S" and 2 pistols ..
2012-10-23 10:42:51
agreed
2012-10-23 11:04:25
-change maps on mirage style without rubbish
2012-10-23 11:12:10
by: Nomad - HLTV.org
#69
Who cares if Valve does this? Like mirage has proven, the community can do this themselves, this is hardly a priority, if we want junkless maps, we can just make them, simple as that.
2012-10-23 11:17:51
Then there's the problem of spreading the new map in the wide community. There's no guarantee that tournament organizers will use them
2012-10-23 12:05:44
by: wna
#84
worked okay with de_nuke_ve..
2012-10-23 12:32:42
but it hasn't worked well with de_dust2 and de_inferno remakes yet
2012-10-23 14:29:04
Have you asked for reasons why?

You do realise inferno_ce is currently plagued with bugs.

Unsure of a d2 remake, but in all fairness d2 is fine the way it is.
2012-10-23 18:47:51
It did, though nuke was really unplayable in comparison to the other maps plus Volcano who is in direct connection with Valve made them, so it was easy for this map to get into mappool.

Post edited 2012-10-23 14:36:19
2012-10-23 14:34:26
It has to be good enough, removing rubbish and adding elements of the old maps doesen't make them good.
2012-10-23 14:26:25
I don't care about rubbish, the map isn't bad because of the rubbish - it's a new game, you have to sacrifice something. Rubbish isn't a problem those maps have.
2012-10-23 14:35:30
What if the ELO rankings will only allow official maps?
2012-10-23 18:01:43
hm but I care that Valve doesnt care......ofc for Valve its easier to copy CSS maps
2012-10-23 18:28:04
Finally something good in csgo. Now only if they could tune the game.

Post edited 2012-10-23 10:36:03
2012-10-23 10:34:23
A W E S O M E
2012-10-23 10:49:18
That's fine and dandy but what if ESWC finale will be stream-only and in French?! Valve should make no-gotv tourneys a ban-able offense. That'll teach them.
2012-10-23 11:06:11
What if in fact Valve and ESWC worked together in order to get GOTV ready for the event ?
ESWC will also feature french/english streaming for casual people.
2012-10-23 11:09:56
You think you're cool huh?
2012-10-23 11:58:57
i'm just stating facts, you don't have to worry about ESWC :)
2012-10-23 12:54:50
No, he thinks he has input that he wants to share ;)
2012-10-23 12:56:08
This is so awesome news! Look guys THEY ARE LISTENING! People say they dont listen and blablabla. But they are. They give us pretty much everything we ask for. Valve is the best!
2012-10-23 11:06:24
They always listened to people who got good feedback
2012-10-23 13:42:26
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#175
interesting comment based on absolutely zero facts
2012-10-23 20:38:54
Well Valve said themselves that they only listen to people who actually know something and thats mainly on steam forums. I doubt that from people right here they would listen to anybody
2012-10-23 20:43:45
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#178
if only you actually saw the pro forums and all the suggestions, ideas etc people have written with absolutely zero answers or implementation to the game
2012-10-23 20:45:00
Well people wanted GOTV and they're working on it. Thats good then

Post edited 2012-10-23 20:57:30
2012-10-23 20:47:55
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#180
1/10000000, thats like saying it's all good to a rapist because they said sorry after years of raping people.

"one swallow does not a summer make"
2012-10-23 20:51:56
Also someone wrote that they are working on movement improvement update which should come out in November. Thought don't know if thats true
2012-10-23 20:57:14
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#182
they are improving the game, it's just at a slow pace and i'm frustrated about all the lying they are doing to the customers...

whatever happened to releasing the game when it was ready? not when it was 1/10th done?
2012-10-23 21:03:28
Well its not as slow as Promod, we can both agree on that. Also in what way did they lied? Maybe they didn't do some things which they said and thats not supposed to be a big deal. Also a game like Counter Strike should have probably a shit load of bugs which are fixable and thats up to the community to say what they are

Post edited 2012-10-23 21:39:45
2012-10-23 21:30:54
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#213
i'm not exactly sure why saying a game that's budget was in the millions of dollars is getting updated faster than a game with a budget of $0 is such a big deal. csp is also free.

not doing things you promise = lying.

don't even play the card of them not knowing some of the glitches, the fact is they once again shipped a product that was nowhere near ready.
2012-10-24 05:10:02
lurppis you are a cs GO hater everyone knows that soo they (dev team) are doing the best to improve the game they just dont make a cs 2 but a new cs called cs GO just that...lets people work with the community feedback and i think is very helpful for them and they listen the people compare cs go beta too this one is just tottaly different!! soo they listen the people!!
2012-10-23 22:53:25
So naive....
2012-10-23 23:24:34
lol? no
2012-10-24 05:01:49
Lurppis' opinion agrees to mine. I don't really think that CSGO is developing in a right way... If they developed the movement/shooting/other issues first, it would be better off for us... but unfortunately they didn't. I still think that they should fix every single bug and issue, only after that making the GO-TV and other stuff, because I'm absolutely sure that it's gonna be released with many bugs and I think that they would not be able to fix this enormous amount of glitches. Ofcourse they will fix some of them, but it won't be that nice anyway...
2012-10-24 10:29:19
"whatever happened to releasing the game when it was ready? not when it was 1/10th done?"

That went out the window in the early 00's I believe.

At least GO was much much better than both recent CoD & Battlefield 3 on release.

Battlefield 3 had around 500 bugs on release, and they were again "fixed at a slow pace".

Compare the size of EA & DICE to Valve & Hidden Path, and you will notice a rather huge difference.
2012-10-24 05:47:17
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#223
why lie about it then? chet specifically said the game won't be released until it's ready.

i don't play cod or bf so no comment there, but comparing a bad product to an even worse product doesn't really bode well for it regardless.
2012-10-24 05:50:08
Yet Cod & BF are both really huge successful products to the casual gamer..... a sign of living in the now?

I can't comment on why Valve stated a release date, when they specifically said it wouldn't be released until the community was happy, perhaps as HLTV will be at ESWC next week, then your team of merry men could probably put that question to Valve who will be at the event themselves.
2012-10-24 05:55:44
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#225
i'm not a casual gamer, i don't play games if i'm not on a team or don't have tournaments coming up.

the clowns valve normally sends to events have nothing to do with the game (chet was a story writer for portal for crying out loud) plus i'm not sure why anyone would want to listen to whatever excuse they come up with, so that seems pointless.
2012-10-24 06:00:00
valve doenst know anything themselves lol
2012-10-23 21:20:41
by: Dare_Dev1L - HLTV.org
#70
Can't wait, I wonder if it has auto-switch like dota 2 does or not. Might help for streamers.
2012-10-23 11:24:59
What's the auto-switch in dota2? :D
2012-10-23 14:17:11
dota 2 has an autodirector

theres a delay on the stream and the game switches to players right before they take dmg. so you are able to see the start of a teamfight/gank

altho in csgo (if they do implement it) it should be the perspective of the player who does the dmg
2012-10-23 16:21:08
Oh, I know what you mean now. I just didn't know that it is called "auto-switch". Thanks for explaining :)
2012-10-23 16:33:00
by: Dare_Dev1L - HLTV.org
#144
I meant automatically switching between players, I never stated that "auto-switch" was it's official name. Though yes I meant what #132 said.
2012-10-23 17:02:40
I didn't mean it's an official name, but it can be called so.
2012-10-23 17:06:39
Called Autodirector on 1.6/Dota2
2012-10-24 03:03:15
All Valve games that allow HLTV and SrcTV had auto-diretor, it would be rather stupid for CS:GO not to have.
2012-10-23 17:33:32
good!!
2012-10-23 11:33:35
Great. Btw, playing CS:GO on xbox vs expert bots on competitive mode, pretty hard lolololol. (demo version)

Post edited 2012-10-23 11:35:36
2012-10-23 11:34:51
and so many nice features to come, wait&see :)))
2012-10-23 11:35:00
common gives us some more hints=p
2012-10-23 14:28:16
they need release GO:TV in this week to fix buf ( if any will be ) before ESWC
2012-10-23 11:57:37
Writes England and uses UK flag. Idiots.
2012-10-23 12:13:31
You're right! Some people can't see different between UK and England, which is actually part of this kingdom. I'm not surprised by this mistake. Valve has done a lot of them in the past...
2012-10-23 12:53:04
they need more updates!
2012-10-23 12:21:47
AWESOME MAN THIS MAKES MY MOTIVATION FOR CS:GO
2012-10-23 12:35:33
They should add silencer for colt, that would be cool.
2012-10-23 12:46:53
awful timing. new things doesn't work. admins, players, casters need time to find bugs and get used to features.
in best case this TV client update will result in game delays at upcoming event.
2012-10-23 12:58:46
At fu*king last! No more missed historical games!
2012-10-23 13:02:41
true that
2012-10-23 13:24:17
Great, just great.
2012-10-23 13:21:40
awesome, they should did this before dh valencia, but cool anyway
2012-10-23 13:25:28
nice! this is so great
2012-10-23 13:25:35
"HLTV.org will naturally be on-site in Paris to provide you full coverage of the first major event in CS:GO's history. Now you will be able to also watch the likes of NiP and mousesports go head to head in the $20,000 tournament."

Unless I'm totally mistaken, mousesports didn't qualify or get invited to ESWC?
2012-10-23 14:08:49
see German qualifier :D
2012-10-23 14:14:42
by: Nomad - HLTV.org
#107
Uhm, didn't xXx who qualified for ESWC join Mousesports?

http://www.hltv.org/news/9313-team-xxx-beat-mtw-qu..
http://www.hltv.org/news/9329-team-xxx-join-mouses..
2012-10-23 14:15:37
thx didn't realise it was these guys that joined
2012-10-23 14:36:06
i think they got a invite from eswc but im not sure!!
2012-10-23 22:56:05
you're totally mistaken ;)
2012-10-23 14:23:36
A team attending was picked up by mous. The German lads!
2012-10-23 14:26:50
yeah just saw nomand's post - didn't realise it was them
2012-10-23 14:37:15
i still hope ESWC will ban or restrict moltows to 1 per team
2012-10-23 14:21:12
Nice. Regnam, will it have auto camera switch as dota 2?
2012-10-23 14:23:04
RegnaM just get them to ban molotovs ffs
2012-10-23 14:26:51
+1
2012-10-23 18:27:40
Not bad, not bad :-)


I found the server cs go dm+hs only 192.166.218.129:27015
2012-10-23 14:54:27
this is good news
2012-10-23 15:41:32
good news, but probably too little too late.
2012-10-23 15:52:14
right in time for a major tourney is too late?
2012-10-23 16:22:21
What does that have to do with anything? The game is already out of the top10 steam games, and nobody isn;t playing GO purely because their is no GOTV, so it won't attract new players.
2012-10-23 16:47:52
It's to attract spectators not players... the game has had over 50k players online at once before. With an integrated spectator system it will boost the amount of players online at a given time...
2012-10-23 17:56:16
lol, no CSGO hasn't had 50K online, and people don't play GO because of the gameplay. You couldn't be more wrong.
2012-10-23 18:25:16
You do realise for the first month there was 50k peak every day?
2012-10-23 18:50:32
You're delusional if you think it's peak lasted a month and there weren't 50K playing constantly it has been noticeably behind 1.6 since day 1.

Post edited 2012-10-23 18:57:20
2012-10-23 18:56:45
There was 50k peak for a month...... then it considerably dropped to around 20k.
2012-10-23 19:02:28
it is around 15k now and its not even on the top 10 of steam, it is below some single player games, dude.

something needs to imrprove and you should join me on this

Post edited 2012-10-23 19:06:42
2012-10-23 19:05:07
And this will greatly help in that respect.

There are a few issues, but not as many as people seem to think. The fact that some of the community is asking for Russian Walking is kinda :| when it was a bug in 1.6
2012-10-23 19:33:14
I agree, asking for russian walking is way too much (even though it smooths the gameplay), but there are many other movement features from 1.6 that could benefit CSGO a lot.

Post edited 2012-10-23 19:52:11
2012-10-23 19:51:36
No Russian Walking was not a designed element to the "gameplay", it was never meant to be.

There could be a lot of aspects that could be improved on, and will be over time.

There isn't much to worry about atm.

If you take statistics too much to your heart then you need to just take a step back. I know most people think of Source as a failed game, but statistically speaking, it peaked just after it came out, then dropped to similiar numbers around the same time, and then Mid 2005, started growing really gradually until it started matching it's older brother on Steam. Tournaments don't care about Steam statistics, what they do care about is the numbers competitively playing it, ie ESL's comment about CS:GO needing the community to back it on ESL, and the cups they host still get large amount of teams signing up regularly. If we look at the Danish scene in numbers of teams, you can see for a small LAN recently 32 teams signed up and so on.

There is a good analysis of these numbers that tournaments can drill into. The fact that the CS:GO scene is quite Global speaks volumes as well.
2012-10-23 20:08:30
there are lots of things that need to change for GO to be a decent CS. for exmaple the kill animations and recoil, it feels that kills don't matter a thing in GO. The highlights are cmopletely souless and boring, everything looks random as fuck. There should be a 1.6'd HS animation.

and the maps, dont get me started with those awful official Valve maps. they don't belong to competitive CS, period.

The smoke is also a problem imho, it is way too thick and allows for randomness (watch an action between VG vs NiP at DHValencia, thats random).

I could go on and on but Valve is not listening to the community, they barely listen to some Source players.
2012-10-23 20:13:55
"The Kill Animations".... you do realise that they are fine the way they are. When you talk about 1.6 HS Animation, I am sure J3di could repeat his neat trick he did for Source, which created that HS Animation in Source. It isn't "needed", it is just a feature that some people "would like to see".

The recoil.... lets get one thing completely straight, there is recoil in the game, there are certain recoil patterns in the game, the ak and m4 both have recoil, the problem is things like the P90 which in real life is reflected in CS:GO is what people talk about recoil, there is a lack of it or in reality the recoil spread of a P90 is far too powerful (as its close together and can easily be controlled).

Smokes are once again fine, not sure where you are pointing out at, they fixed the one way smokes, and if you really want to nitpick the smokes, then I would suggest you waste a nade to see through it better. I was a Source player, so dealing with thick smoke is fine.

People talk about "randomness" like it's a bad thing, it actually makes for a more entertaining game, your "smoke problem" which you note between VG and NiP was probably the highlight of the LAN, as many people have talked about it.

The other point you make, which is the "god awful maps", well lets be honest, if there is one thing good about the CS community, it is making their own maps and then getting them lodged into the map rotation, so not really an issue there.

I'm sure you could go on about how "Valve don't listen to the community", yet the majority of the time they have listened to the community, they have their own ideas with CS of course, but most of the updates have been for the community. The problem is, which Ive seen a lot, is the fact that people have difficulty explaining in a rather constructive way (ie through use of good explanation and a video) to show Valve what is apparently "wrong" with their game. People just moan.....
2012-10-24 05:27:10
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#176
http://steamgraph.net/index.php?action=graph&j..

dare i say? LAWYERED
2012-10-23 20:40:51
So it was 2 weeks... oh well not to worry, you won an incredible battle.

My original points still stand and added points since then also stand.
2012-10-23 23:23:25
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#214
the game was at 44k on the 24th, THREE days after release, 31k 10 days after release and has barely scraped 20k in the past month...

cs:go has not been on the top10 most popular steam games in weeks (yes i've checked).
2012-10-24 05:13:46
"My original points still stand and added points since then also stand."
2012-10-24 05:28:57
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#218
i didn't bother reading, not really interested, but you were completely wrong on the player numbers which is the only thing i chimed in on.
2012-10-24 05:38:21
Cool... thats fine. His original point was that CSGO never had 50k plus, so my original point did justify coming in with it. I may of been wrong with the numbers over a period of time, but I was still right that CSGO breached 50k.
2012-10-24 05:43:09
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#222
yea but all new games hit amazing numbers, games like borderlands, skyrim etc rape cs:go by having like 100-300k players.

it's weird people claim that the number of players will soon begin to rise, when it has nothing but plummeted since the release -- which is also the natural direction for every other game.
2012-10-24 05:48:42
Perhaps because CSS suffered the same fate in terms of numbers plummenting straight after release and then in Mid 2005 those numbers began to rise to a respectable number.

At the end of the day they tell one side of a story, statistics are rarely used in that manner.
2012-10-24 06:30:17
by: lurppis - HLTV.org
#228
times have changed since the golden days of the fps genre though
2012-10-24 06:52:08
I think now is the time for CSP, but they have a lot of job blablabla
2012-10-24 07:39:27
yeah and everyone who doesn't have go will know how boring the game is. my baby natalie knows what's up. the game needs to change.
2012-10-23 18:30:01
AFAIK there are 1.6/CSS players who don't play GO on regular basis but spectate big tourneys.
So concurrent number of GO players don't matter in this case.
2012-10-23 18:01:13
it matters if there are only 15k playing on a regular basis. GO is by far the worst CS game statistically speaking, that needs to change and the only way to do that is by improving the gameplay.

Post edited 2012-10-23 18:27:17
2012-10-23 18:26:26
No it isn't.. the fastest way to do it is to actually advertise the game. As if gameplay would bring anyone except a few hundred css and 1.6 players...

No one outside of the current community could give a toss about gameplay :P
2012-10-23 23:58:58
I honestly hope, for humanity's sake that you're kidding.
2012-10-24 02:13:32
Yeah because when I make a valid point about the lack of awareness of CSGO the only way to retort is to insult my intellect...

2012-10-24 06:21:51
so, you think CSGO has only 13k playing right now because it wasn't properly advertized? lmao, even Portal 2 got like 100k playing it for a while if Im not mistaking. its a Valve game, everyone knows everuthing about it, no one plays it because it simply sucks.
2012-10-24 18:45:59
Wow you really are clueless... I'm not saying its the answer to life, but without the advertising like cod and other fps titles get no one will care for the game outside of the esports world. Portal 2 can't be compared to it... it's a unique game that got a huge amount of hype in papers, magazines etc...
2012-10-24 21:11:07
Most people I know that knew anything about gaming knew about the release of a new counter-strike. It was on most lists of "most anticipated games" etc. and it was on Steam.

1.6 and Source didn't need advertising, GO only needs it because it is failing.

The best thing they can do, is improve the game as much as possible, and then make it free to play.
2012-10-25 10:23:33
Your original account must be Piyush K.

How about comparing the stats from beggining of each game? I'm certain that GO has more concurrent users than CSS when it got released and much more when 1.0 got released.
2012-10-24 02:08:22
If you're not aware, the CSGO playerbase is decreasing, which means every day there are less and less people playing it.
2012-10-24 02:15:32
Looking at stats in the span of less than two months won't help you much in the business. If it continues decreasing for a year that's something to worry about. For now the game is still fresh out on the market, with a lot of updates/patches coming along.

I'm not happy with how the game feels right now, movement could be less limited, recoil should be more controllable. But the devs are still working on the game and they've shown the willingness to work on it, so I'm positive the game will be a success in the long run.
2012-10-24 02:27:31
they are not regularly updating the gameplay...

Post edited 2012-10-24 02:31:11
2012-10-24 02:30:48
The gameplay feels right but I find it could be better. Otherwise they've been working on the Matchmaking and now on GOTV.
2012-10-24 02:33:35
the gameplay is the most important aspect of a game, it should be the priority.

Post edited 2012-10-24 02:38:51
2012-10-24 02:38:28
It would be shitty for the pros getting ready for ESWC and DH to suddenly change the gameplay :3

But aside from that, I think so too :)
2012-10-24 02:42:20
I bet they wouldn't mind if it ends up being a great gameplay update.
2012-10-24 02:44:22
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#207
If it screws their plans/strats of course they would mind. Especially if that 'improvement' also brings some undesired consequences aka bugs which gets us back to the first point.

Post edited 2012-10-24 03:08:08
2012-10-24 03:01:09
Not a very good reason to never fix the gameplay.
2012-10-24 18:55:17
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#253
We are refering to changing something before an event. In the past there have been f.e. updates to Steam either before or during a tournament and there were crashes over and over due to this.
2012-10-26 21:43:24
Looking at stats in the span of less than two months won't help you much in the business. If it continues decreasing for a year that's something to worry about.

Ermm.. and where did you get your business management skills from? The game will be dead in a year if they don't do anything.
2012-10-25 10:26:59
good job
2012-10-23 16:24:50
Im sooooooooooooo happy ! ;D
2012-10-23 16:30:26
hater gonna hate
HEUHAEHEUAHEUHAUHEUHEA

cs:go ftwowowowowowwo
2012-10-23 16:42:37
niice
2012-10-23 16:46:40
Looks decent, now time to improve the most shitty gameplay aspects like the movement, money system, recoil, HS animation, smoke thickness, MAPS, radar, silencers, etc, etc.

Post edited 2012-10-23 18:27:02
2012-10-23 18:23:06
they won't, Valve would care about console gamers and If they change the gameplay of CS:GO, it's pretty hard for console gamers to master the game
because Controlling in FPS genre: Mouse + Keyboard > console controllers

Post edited 2012-10-24 08:41:09
2012-10-24 08:38:20
Yes a lot of people forgot that this game was based mainly for console gamers. But since some people desperately want to make another 1.6 thats probably their own delusional problem

Post edited 2012-10-24 22:25:11
2012-10-24 22:24:37
Great news to hear :)
2012-10-23 18:50:56
Awesome.
2012-10-23 21:26:03
hi esl versus leaver

you like -30 points for leaving
2012-10-24 10:30:58
1 game, dont give a shit.
2012-10-24 15:08:06
I give
2012-10-24 21:05:35
ok
2012-10-24 21:16:56
so.... leaver
2012-10-24 21:25:52
apologize for that
2012-10-24 21:46:48
Nice :) can't wait!!
2012-10-23 22:56:33
Gonna be Interesting to watch rahims stream in cs:go <3
2012-10-24 02:22:23
great succes
2012-10-24 04:57:40
good, GOTV done, now they just have to improve the whole game.
2012-10-24 05:04:52
And that probably won't happen because its not needed
2012-10-24 22:26:24
then enjoy ur competitive game with 15k player
2012-10-24 22:47:12
HEHE +1


15k competetive players without casuals. 15K Pro-s

CS GO BEST GAME EVER MADE.




Post edited 2012-10-24 23:14:35
2012-10-24 23:13:20
I don't give a crap about how many people are playing the game, it says absolutely nothing. And yes I will enjoy seeing competitive games in Go which are far more interesting than 1.6
2012-10-25 13:05:49
Great, now I'm going to have to figure out how to make inferno_ce work with this. Another pain in the butt Photoshop extravaganza.
2012-10-24 05:31:26
cool, was time :-)
2012-10-24 17:38:45
When do you guys think will the update come? Just in time before the event or maybe even this weekend?
2012-10-26 04:44:19
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