cArn to play for fnatic at DH Winter?
By: MIRAA
Time: 2012-10-23 18:17
Game: Counter-Strike: Global Offensive

Patrik "cArn" Sättermon has dropped a strong hint that he will play for fnatic at DreamHack Winter next month.

The 27-year-old retired from gaming after the IEM6 World Championship in March, with his role of ingame leader currently taken by Finn "karrigan" Andersen.

A post on Sättermon's Facebook page earlier on Tuesday reads: "Seems like I'll make a mini comeback in November, more news soon!".

With fnatic due to return to China soon to play the remainder of the K1 League, it seems likely that Sättermon will play as a stand-in at DreamHack Winter, which is the only event on the team's calendar that month.


cArn in line for a new short-lived return?

If confirmed, this is the second time that the Swedish veteran makes a short-lived comeback, after he played for the team during the group stage of the Swedish Championship in June.

DreamHack Winter will be the first CS:GO tournament for fnatic, who secured a spot at the event in Jönköping after winning the Romanian DreamHack stop last weekeend.

In a recent interview with HLTV.org, Andreas "MODDII" Fridh admitted that the lack of time to practice the new game will be an issue, but stated that the team "will try to have fun and hope for the best" at DreamHack.

Tags: cArn, fnatic

yeah
2012-10-23 18:18:56
by: npt
#2
That would be great!
2012-10-23 18:19:00
nice cArn!!
gl fnatic
2012-10-23 18:19:07
cArn <3
2012-10-23 18:19:37
haters gonna hate
2012-10-23 18:19:42
by: oiD
#6
Active.. Inactive.. ZZz
2012-10-23 18:19:47
+1
2012-10-23 18:22:39
There's a reason...
2012-10-23 18:36:50
playing one tournament doesn't make him active
2012-10-23 18:45:53
+1
2012-10-23 21:21:54
+1 ;/;/
2012-10-23 21:49:22
ok but that's not a comeback, cArn. that's a GO away.
2012-10-23 18:20:05
He's 27? Damn
2012-10-23 18:20:30
+1, didn't even realize how old he was.
2012-10-23 18:22:19
Well, "age" doesn't matter : ) (Neo - RoBBan - Kuben ... are 26/27 average) :p
2012-10-23 18:49:06
Age does matter bro. Neo & co will not be on top anymore @ csgo.
2012-10-23 18:55:20
I don't give a fuck, if they will succeed or not in GO, i was talking about cArn's age and others, not about achievments and stuff, so please don't talk shit, while you don't even understand what i mean ...

Post edited 2012-10-23 19:09:03
2012-10-23 19:08:02
Bro relax.
You said age doesn't matter and then you start about neo. So you were talking about them?

Anyway like with any other sport or hobby most humans will peak at early to mid twenties.

The older you get the less time you will have for games. Responsibilities et cetera.

So in my opinion age does matter.
2012-10-23 20:22:22
They are paid to play, its like any other job. Their "responsabilities" is to play the game and be good at it. Thats correct for non-pro gamers tho
2012-10-23 20:57:39
Yes but do you really think a progamer earns alot of money ?
I seriously doubt it.

When they're younger they are happy with this wage and happy they get money by playing their hobby.

But as they get older and have more bills to pay, it won't be enough I'm afraid.

So they have no choice to quit the pro-scene and get a job that better pays.
2012-10-23 22:50:10
I have no idea about how much a pro-gamer earns, so i cant speak much about that subject mate but i guess your close to reality
2012-10-23 23:24:39
I would seriously be surprised if they make as much as somebody at a factory.
2012-10-24 00:11:46
I depends a lot on which country you are from. The money you get for playing in a pro top team if you are from Ukrain etc. will be enough for you. If you are from Denmark, Sweden or Holland etc it's another story.
2012-10-24 17:49:23
Bro if you think progamers make around 1400 euro / month then you are nuts :)
2012-10-24 18:26:38
Where do i mention that amount anywhere? Please enlighten me.

It is hard to estimate the average income of a citizen in a corrupt country like Ukraine. After reading a little a "normal" work i the cities would give no more than around 400-500 Euroes a month.
2012-10-24 20:30:20
Yes maximum 500 euro / month is what I was thinking aswell.
But in Belgium 500 euro / month isn't even legal.
You'll allways have more with any job.
2012-10-24 22:25:05
Ok seriously can you even read and comprehend the english language? Is that not EXACTLY what i wrote above? Once again you write stuff out of your ass.

Understand, Think and write. Easy steps. Learn them before you write to anyone else. You are a waste of time.

2012-10-25 18:48:57
That's why I aggreed with you bro.
2012-10-27 04:08:33
Once again i was talkin about AGE but not the ACHIEVEMENTS or FUTUR GAIN please open ur mind don't be so small brain sized !

Post edited 2012-10-24 12:01:04
2012-10-24 11:57:12
Well, kinda, but i wasn't even thinking about skill, i just didn't remember how "old" he was.
2012-10-23 20:00:08
yeah yeah i was talkin about the age too not the relation between age and skillz it's only that "tecon" who's talkin about something elese, kinda, having good achievements when ur young ... bla bla bla ! lol
2012-10-24 11:58:55
Neo is 25YO and Kuben 24
2012-10-24 12:12:15
Neo, actually is 26 - kuben, 25/26 - cArn, 27 - Robban, 26 - face, 26 - ins, 27 ... : ) ... and many more
2012-10-24 12:16:24
(y) ty
2012-10-25 01:17:39
zeT, it's still 2012 year. Neo is 25 and kuben's 24.
2012-10-24 17:53:54
Muahaha perfect. Ultimate humiliation for fnatic is in order, by some random no-name team.
2012-10-23 18:27:17
german mad?
2012-10-23 19:08:27
Really mad ..
I'm a fnatic fan, but i doubt fnatic will conquer top1 playing GO .. In the other hand i think fnatic will split apart (I mean this line-up) so im not intereseted in fnatic GO division ..
2012-10-23 19:52:18
lu of fnatic:GO ?

Post edited 2012-10-23 18:28:08
2012-10-23 18:27:56
awesome news! go cs:go =DD!
2012-10-23 18:28:04
A true legend, unlike that idiot that doesn't even know the ticking of the c4 and talks like he's a CS god but actually hasn't won a thing since 2006 when players were already wiping the floor with him.

Post edited 2012-10-23 18:32:37
2012-10-23 18:31:22
who's talking like a cs god? :D
2012-10-23 19:10:08
heaton
2012-10-23 23:42:34
ah this motherfuker ofc cArn> him anyday
2012-10-24 11:55:19
hopefully he doesn't try make comeback. most 1.6 top players are overrated (most 1.6 players think they are really good, but players who have played other games, know better), they can do good in cs 1.6, but thats it pretty much.


in CS:GO you need much more skill than in cs 1.6, where spraying and all is so easy. for example in cs:go you need much more skill to control spray. recoil is also much harder to handle in burst shots in cs:go.

Only reason why NiP is on top in CS:GO, is because they have trained cs:go so much. they are motivated to spend absurd numbers of hours to train cs:go, because they "get paid" for doing so. for example verygames guys from source haven't played cs:go even nearly as much as NiP guys and still they almost beat them in Valencia

in natural individual skills verygames guys and most cs:source pros are so much better than nip guys and other cs 1.6 "ex-pros" :)
2012-10-23 18:32:05
1.6 players > Source players in CSGO and CSPromod. You're wrong.

NiP 2-0'd VeryGames with ease and the 1.6 players carried the team.

It is harder to be a pro in 1.6 than in any other game so, you're wrong again. In 1.6 you need more skill than in any other game.

Source pros cant even qualify to good tournaments in CSGO, that shows how much ahead are the 1.6 players.

The 1.6 competence was very tight as well, in the last 3 years there were like 15 teams in very similar form, so you're just ignorant and speaking out of the wound.

Post edited 2012-10-23 18:46:06
2012-10-23 18:33:43
"It is harder to be a pro in 1.6 than in any other game so, you're wrong again. In 1.6 you need more skill than in any other game"

Starcraft: BroodWar says hi!
2012-10-23 19:41:57
Broodwar has been dead worldwide since forever, BW lived in Korea and only koreans were pros.
2012-10-23 19:55:44
Does that make the skill curve smaller?
2012-10-24 16:38:16
nope, I meant SC2 is a casualized version of Broodwar and it is way easier to learn playing SC2 than Broodwar.

Broodwar was like the national sport for korean people, it must be incredibly hard to get to semipro level there, being a SC2 pro is nothing compared to that, even crappy players like IdrA, iNcontrol, Tyler, TLO and others got to be considered "pros" in SC2. such a joke.

I will always respect BW as the only other difficult to learn eSport game.

Post edited 2012-10-24 18:43:56
2012-10-24 18:42:32
16-10 16-12 is hardly with ease

its way harder to be a sc2 pro than a 1.6 pro

vg beating 1.6 teams to play nip in finals at valencia wasnt them qualifying in a 1.6 tourney?

it was the same 20-30 people in the pro scene for 1.6 for YEARS, no new blood coming in
2012-10-23 19:44:49
actually guys that have never won a SC2 tournament are considered profesionals, i.e. EGiNcontrol, EGMachine, WhiteRa, LiquidTLO, LiquidTyler, etc, etc.

SC2 is an overhyped eSport and it is almost dead by now.

1.6 has been much more competitive worldwide, Koreans didn't dominate 1.6, euros (swedes, poles, germans, danes, etc) did.

Post edited 2012-10-23 19:57:14
2012-10-23 19:54:01
sc2 is much bigger esport than cs has ever been.

In my opinion quake players are more skilled than cs players.

Post edited 2012-10-23 20:23:55
2012-10-23 20:15:56
that's why it is dying after only 2 years? the hype and drama don't last long.

Post edited 2012-10-23 20:57:04
2012-10-23 20:55:32
Doesn't change the fact that it was/is bigger esport than cs.

"It is harder to be a pro in 1.6 than in any other game" Why?
2012-10-23 22:14:39
the skill ceiling the highest between modern eSports especially LoL and SC2 that are casualized versions of Dota and Broodwar. There are fewer CS pros than any other kind of pros, anyone can go pro in SC2, CSS, LoL because the skill gap is much shorter.

CS lasted for 12 years and it was broadcasted via DirecTV, SC2 won't achieve tv space neither more than a few years more of notoriety.

Post edited 2012-10-23 23:00:19
2012-10-23 22:58:02
You actually had the nerve to call someone ignorant :D try re-reading your post.
2012-10-23 20:21:49
1.6 is a game for real man and skills players

CS:GO for kids and bad players, not skill need on this game.

NiP > Verygames.
2012-10-23 18:55:03
SY_b > NiP

;D
2012-10-23 20:55:38
"in natural individual skills verygames guys and most cs:source pros are so much better than nip guys and other cs 1.6 "ex-pros" :)"

Why would players in an easier game be more talented then players in the harder game? Also keep in mind that 1.6 players have a long professional career of practicing, traveling and playing on big stages while most CSS "pros" are players that played their whole CSS-career from the bedroom a few hours a day after work with some small lantournaments here and there.
2012-10-23 19:06:15
no comments.. in natural individual skills verygames guys and most cs:source pros are so much better than nip guys and other cs 1.6 "ex-pros" :) you must be trolling
2012-10-23 19:08:35
That was completely retarded post. Skill ceiling is much higher in cs 1.6.
2012-10-23 20:25:59
1/10 made me reply
2012-10-23 22:24:29
you're wrong.
2012-10-24 12:49:07
You're so wrong...
2012-10-26 10:59:46
wow so not good for fnatic and we dont want to remember the fail cs:go carn.

rather take a standin from any cs:go team that is not going to participate
2012-10-23 18:32:35
why my PERSONAL OPINION got removed? i have the RIGHT to make my opinion heard even if some of you don't like it.

i say carn was shit at cs and he will be even worse in cs:go and i'm asking why this is worth a news post.
2012-10-23 18:33:00
cArn shit at CS? then why hes one of the most successful players in CS history?
2012-10-23 18:34:52
he had great mates which carried him.
2012-10-23 18:35:57
OMFG ^^ n/c
2012-10-23 18:40:02
LOL, he created very different lineups and won very big tournaments with all of them. When f0rest, GTR and Gux left fnatic to join SK, cArn formed a new lineup and won the next event with it (IEM Europe).

cArn is by far more successful than f0rest and any other swedish guy. Only the poles are above him.

Post edited 2012-10-23 18:43:19
2012-10-23 18:41:12
yes, he formed a new line-up with players all much better than himself and what do you want to tell me? just saying that carn has always been at least 2 levels below the players he played with.
2012-10-23 18:45:28
lol, no. You're obviously ignorant, cArn is an Ingame leader, he's not expected to madfrag but he has done it in the past, go check demos from him of 2006, 2009 and 2011.

You're not a 1.6 player, are you? You must be one of those CSS players that think they know about 1.6 only because they watch the frag movies. 1.6 is more than frags and every one that played at a decent level knows it.

Post edited 2012-10-23 18:49:55
2012-10-23 18:48:33
i'm not "one of those css players", i hate css. whatever, just respect my opinion and so do i. i have no interest in taking this discussion further.
2012-10-23 18:54:04
then I recommend you to seek high level matches, eventually you will notice the importance of a proper ingame leader.
2012-10-23 19:00:09
You're too much into frags. CS 1.6 tatics are way more important than u can imagine. cArn created a lot of excellent tactics and did a hell of intelligent in-game calls to put his team-mates in advantage position to win duels. He should be respected as a master mind behind team's success.
If you followed the scene closely recent years, you should recognize that every time a team lost an in-game leader, they became a bunch of sand. They could still beat some average teams but when facing a tough opponent, they're confused, lost and could not do anything properly.
Ah, and just to remind you, cArn did many many important clutches, too. If you watched enough intense 1.6 finals, you would understand.

Post edited 2012-10-23 20:11:30
2012-10-23 20:11:00
shut up. in-game-leader don't need to be a madfragger

Post edited 2012-10-23 18:51:08
2012-10-23 18:50:46
for this guy the more immportant its only fraggs and killin not tactics :) but still he is the greatest expert of cs in the world (^_^)
2012-10-23 18:48:19
yeah obviously, he must a saucer.
2012-10-23 18:50:21
or newschool that see cArn only when he was close to finished cs pro scene :)
2012-10-23 18:54:16
do not consider him a saucer, that even offends saucer people ;)
2012-10-23 20:13:03
I would like this comment if it was Facebook , Retweet if it was Twitter
2012-10-23 18:43:46
-1.000.000
2012-10-23 18:51:30
YES!! why you removed expert opinion ! he know more about cs for sure than cArn and he is betetr in this game !!!

















2012-10-23 18:36:22
*NOT ?
2012-10-24 10:03:11
(^_^) :D +111111111111111111
2012-10-24 15:08:13
to be fair he was never shit but he should not do comeback because he havnt played at top levl for what 7 months?

so i think he should just pick any cs:go player that is not going to participate with his team.
2012-10-23 18:45:41
your comment was removed? damn, i wish you had id ban.
2012-10-24 12:49:59
And who are you?cArn is one of the most succesful igl of all times,wtf are you talking about?!
2012-10-26 11:01:01
:D
2012-10-23 18:33:18
seriously, not that overrated guy again
2012-10-23 18:34:03
#35 "LOL, he created very different lineups and won very big tournaments with all of them. When f0rest, GTR and Gux left fnatic to join SK, cArn formed a new lineup and won the next event with it (IEM Europe).

cArn is by far more successful than f0rest and any other swedish guy. Only the poles are above him."

Post edited 2012-10-23 18:43:31
2012-10-23 18:42:30
cArn more succesfull than f0rest?


OK
2012-10-24 10:13:27
I wonder which one of fnatics members will not play.
2012-10-23 18:37:14
karrigan probably
2012-10-23 18:40:56
they said moddii
2012-10-24 08:56:03
If you retired then just go and work or do something
2012-10-23 18:40:42
He is actually the CGO of fnatic.
2012-10-23 18:53:19
but who will he stand for ?
2012-10-23 18:41:32
wow, awesome news !

go CaRnAgE
2012-10-23 18:43:59
GL!!

OffTopic! - Will der be Dreamteam for CSGO events? :/ Just wondering!..It will be fun! O-o
2012-10-23 18:44:14
cl_hairstyle 0 ^_^
2012-10-23 18:44:30
Actually his hairstyle is not bad.
2012-10-23 20:43:45
"after winning the Romanian DreamHack stop last weekeend." didn't get it
2012-10-23 18:46:01
dreamhack made a stop in romania, they had a flat tire or something. otherwise i don't get it either? why romania?! anyway, because of the stop, they said "Hell, why not make an event here? He have a spare slot so why not give it here?"
and then they all lived happily ever after. the end
2012-10-23 18:50:57
pff cs:go
2012-10-23 18:46:02
carn have a girlfriend ?
2012-10-23 18:48:37
I'm following him on facebook and I've seen him with lots of different chicks, mostly asians. He's a player imo.
2012-10-23 18:53:35
yeah he's Barney =p
2012-10-23 19:12:28
hahaha
2012-10-23 19:13:15
Asians cling on most foreigners. Especially popular ones.

Post edited 2012-10-23 22:28:33
2012-10-23 22:28:20
Woooooo
2012-10-23 18:49:20
Wellcome Back SIR !
2012-10-23 18:49:51
Welcome back cArn! <3
2012-10-23 18:54:34
welcomeback king
2012-10-23 19:00:58
f0rest back YEAH
2012-10-23 19:01:21
<3 u trollmastah! GL.
2012-10-23 19:05:47
in who`s place?
2012-10-23 19:06:54
He can't live without CS :p and GeT_RiGhT said that dsn has been playing a bit on DM servers
2012-10-23 19:11:22
who da hell cares :S
2012-10-23 19:17:18
So sick! CS:GO ftw!
2012-10-23 19:17:39
best fragger eva
2012-10-23 19:18:41
niceee !! super new
2012-10-23 19:18:49
Nice :D I want to see that :)
2012-10-23 19:26:20
We're gonna have some sick strats coming up :D
Carn with a mini comeback!>? WOOHOO, now we have GOTV, we just need Rahim to stream and YEAH life is so much better. Slightly
2012-10-23 19:37:32
haha, yes, I miss Rahim :D
2012-10-23 20:14:02
fnatic without carn >>> fnatic with carn
2012-10-23 19:37:58
after cArn carried fnatic with his strats through 6 years full of tournaments, right?
2012-10-23 20:09:18
so ?? fnatic 2009 win cos f0rest,gtr,gux .. fnatic 2012 win cos friis moddii karrigan xizt trace... where is carn ?
2012-10-23 20:36:51
lol cArn was in fnatic since 2006 and he was part of fnatic 2009, he led them to be the team they were and cArn won majors without f0rest, Gux and GTR :)

Post edited 2012-10-23 20:59:54
2012-10-23 20:59:14
go go cArn
2012-10-23 19:41:52
nice gl carn :)
2012-10-23 19:49:20
yeahhhh
2012-10-23 20:16:00
A guy like carn catn do well in csgo especally in the beggining, yes his aim wont be very good , but there will be toons of new tactics in the beggining.
2012-10-23 20:28:03
Like "throw molotov to win"?
2012-10-23 22:29:43
pilladox1 to dont carE?
2012-10-23 20:28:04
KPAH comeback
2012-10-23 20:39:01
fail ... but GL Patrick !
2012-10-23 20:43:12
by: 511
#107
lol even I would watch that and I hate cs:go
2012-10-23 20:46:11
gl..
2012-10-23 21:10:32
cArn cArn cArn cArn cArn.Hi
2012-10-23 21:46:10
GL @ K1 league
2012-10-23 21:59:32
carn legend <3
2012-10-23 22:04:11
they are going to suck some ballz
2012-10-23 22:25:17
I think, that only one swedish team will be on top for some years in future - NiP. Another boys will not be able to keep the resistance. It's in the Bible.
2012-10-23 22:29:30
sad for fnatic :/
2012-10-23 22:48:33
Nice Carn but cs:go bad
2012-10-23 22:51:30
now Its official http://www.fnatic.com/news/10192/cs-1-6-leaves-for.. cArn stand in for possible final match in K1 league

Post edited 2012-10-23 22:58:15
2012-10-23 22:57:31
cl_cArn 0
2012-10-23 22:59:17
Her Will be standin for karrigan if they come to the finals in the k1 league
2012-10-23 23:11:10
replacing whom ??
2012-10-23 23:41:41
Is this what retired means now? play every 3 4 months then quit again?
2012-10-24 00:10:07
If you look very closely you can see his mini-muscles. GL tho.
2012-10-24 00:41:53
great news, goodluck at DH! :)
2012-10-24 00:47:46
No, he's only helping them out in K1 league if they manage to win their next game.

Karrigan can't attend.
2012-10-24 01:27:11
sauce?
2012-10-24 10:05:11
sauce bernaise?
2012-10-24 12:53:50
like a LeX
2012-10-24 09:35:33
without "a"
2012-10-24 10:05:38
0 10
2012-10-24 11:08:43
+1
2012-10-26 11:27:54
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