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The Electronic Sports World Cup (ESWC) has announced the group pairings for the French qualifier next week.
The French ESWC qualifier will be played in the first three days of the Paris Games Week (October 30th to November 1st), with a total of eight teams contesting the one spot in the world finals later that week.
Millenium, who are led by veteran Steeve "Ozstrik3r" Flavini, have been handed a relatively easy task, while VeryGames will have to work hard to make it out of the groups after being paired with Gametoo and eXtensive!.
Below you can find the line-ups of all the teams who will partake in the tournament:
Millenium: Ozstrik3r, shox, Uzzziii, ScreaM, h0rks
BuyKey: Niko, NpK, liptoNNN, Shyne, malike
SharkConfig: Bailer, One, StrondraZ, crea, xoxoT
PyRoGen: chouca, jarod, fisheR, fxy0, B1GGY
VeryGames: SmithZz, RpK, NBK, Ex6tenZ, kennyS
punchLine: Storen, PetitSkel, Hugh, fAbzz, chazE
Gametoo: fRoyGe, atLaNtis, HeUkALyPtuS, RevZ, eternalz
eXtensive!: Maniac, Happy, mshz, apEX, skall
Stay tuned to HLTV.org for full coverage of the French ESWC qualifier, which will kick off on Tuesday.
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Actually they did pretty good, you should check the tournaments stats again.
sauce_is_bed made it pretty clear, SIXER & MAJ3R were 1.6 top players, and for now 1.6 players proved better on cs:go than source players so there's no reason why with some practice verygames would resist them. No matter how good they were on source.
You guys judge too much because of a single game... How can you say 1.6 are better than sourcers? Its just stupid and makes no sense... Let VG train like they did in css and you will see what is dominance. VG trained like 20h for DH while NIP trained 80h LOL.
You're saying we judge too much because of 1 game, but what exactly are you judging from? Achievements in an other game? Wow that's solid indeed. No matter what, for now NiP is #1 and let's be honest for just a second, the trio GTR, f0rest & Xizt are the main reason for that.
Post edited 2012-10-28 17:41:36
No, just because NIP won once it doesnt mean they are better than VG and that 1.6 players are better than sourcers... We need to see way more matches to make such conclusions.
And really, Spain/France ain't discussable. Spain always had like 4/5 really good players, and when these players happened to be in the same team then spain would barely get a top15 team, while France most of the time had 10 quality players, most often 1 top10 team (and always a top15 team), and up to 4 teams that would regularly show up at international events.
Besides, even though unlike France, Spain never won an international event, this is irrelevant to me. Huge players like karrigan, fRiis, moddii, etc... never won anything before joining a big team, which shows that there may be top players even in countries that don't win big tourneys.
Post edited 2012-10-28 21:53:16
Im sorry if the truth hurts... France never won anything so youre not a top country.
Post edited 2012-10-29 00:42:59
there is a tier1 which is composed by sweden, poland, denmark, ukraine and germany and there is tier2 which could be brazil, finland and USA AND THEN a tier 3 where spain, france and portugal amongst many others are. please, dont you ever compare yourself to any country higher than spain cause you arent. you have great players, i never said you didnt but you never won tournaments consistently
A again, your twisted logic must have made you think otherwise, but I never compared France with anyting higher than Spain.
Btw can you tell me precisely how am I wrong? til now you've only been running away from each point I made by bringing up a new statement out of nowhere and changing subject but never made a point, please do cuz I'm getting bored.
Post edited 2012-10-29 01:09:16
You are mad cause im saying france sucks :D
Could you please enlight me where did france have a top team or top players? They had average players that never made anything in the international scene vs big teams just like portugal spain, etc etc.
You said france was better than spain which is not true. You are on the same level.
Just because you have more medals doesnt mean you are better than them. It depends very much on how many big teams attended that event because you couldnt do shit vs them.
You are wrong because you think you are better than them when you are not. You never won anything big JUST LIKE THEM. You never had a top player JUST LIKE THEM.
Now get me some nice arguments please, im bored ;(
PS: I forgot norway and russia on my tier 2 rank.
1/ I'm not mad, and yes France kinda sucked in 1.6, I'm not disagreeing with that and won't feel offended by that cuz again, cs is just a game.
2/ Emulate! was a top team, even the likes of f0rest said they respected them and considered them and particularly mSx as a threat (I know you're almost a cs legend yourself but don't take it personally if I rely more on f0rest's opinion than on yours.)
3/ France > Spain anytime, I backed up my point but you never did, saying "spain = france" don't make it a point. Again, the French scene always was stronger, always had more quality players, and most often the best French team defeated Spain's best team when they met. Plus France always did pretty well in ENC and CBNC while Spain sucked at it (btw France also won a CBNC against Sweden.)
4/ France did have top players at every ages of cs (Oligan, KabaL, latOr, dim2k in the first times; then MaT-, mSx, MAJ3R, SIXER... all of them were top players and if you've seen them play and that you know something about cs, you immediately see that they're insane players (again, GeT_RiGhT himself said a few times how much he respected SIXER, and LUq said countless time SIXER was the awper he hated the most playing against.)
5/ Check the teams in attendence at WCG 07 when Emulate! won, you'll see you're wrong again (EG, VP, AG, ROCCAT, fnatic, PGS etc...)
Sorry but you still haven't made a point. You just kept giving me your worthless opinion, while all the time I've been able to prove you wrong. I don't think you know what a point is. Try to back up your arguements a little bit.
If you arent offended why do you keep making such long posts? SENSE PLEASE. :D
OFC f0rest thought emulate could do anything ROFL. You know whats being humble? That is all he was because he knew they couldnt touch him, especially f0rest who would destroy them all 1vs5.
I didnt saw any argument from you... I already said, you just like spain never won tournaments consistently, so why argue youre any better than them? Those players you mentioned from france couldnt touch the international scene JUST LIKE THE SPANISH. Yeah, you won a CB cup vs sweden, cause sweden really cares about it, proof to that is that they use their 4th lineup vs you LOL.
And again, they are top players in the eyes of who? You and every french ofc. portuguese people also say foxj is one of the best players of the world and top one and guess what, he isnt. Same goes for those french players, you never won anything big vs good players in a consistent way. You are average compared to sweden, denmark, etc etc etc JUST LIKE SPAIN. =)
Show me the bracket of WCG 07 please :)
After thinking a bit of this i got to a conclusion. CS1.6 is over so why argue you are better than anyone? You arent, you sucked at 1.6 and you will suck forever, why you keep arguing you are better than spain when you didnt win more than them? YOU ARE AVERAGE.
Btw, arguements? LOL. You cant even write it corretly and youre telling me to get some... Get a brain bro.
1/ It's not logic, it's psychology.
2/ I make "long" posts cuz they only take 1 minute to write and that I'm only trying to make logic enter your brain. Btw you write equally long posts but you're not offended in any way, are you? Logic? ;)
3/ mSx single handedly destroyed f0rest's fnatic, and f0rest after the match said how he was impressed, that has nothing to do with being humble as at that time emuLate! was actually a top team that most teams at the time had trouble playing against (you were what? 13 yrs at that time? Stop talking about thing you don't know.)
4/ Stop changing your "points" when I prove them wrong: you first said France was as bad as Spain cuz they hadn't win an international tourney, now cuz they didn't win consistently enough: the point is that France regularly place top8 in tough tournaments, sometimes top3/4, and won a WCG which is not Spain's case, and that's something they could never have done without great players.
5/ This CBNC they won was against a pretty decent Swedish line up actually, that most people considered 10 times better than the French before the match, then called it weak only cuz they lost. And if they didn't care about the match then they wouldn't have played it.
6/ Actually foxj could have been a top player if things were different and if he'd not played in a 3rd world country. Players from SK said they found him good at least, and again they know that so much better than you, who consider source a game.
7/ Yes, France is only average compared to Sweden, that's at least something we agree on, but France was still better than Spain, even spanish guys would agree on that. Actually even you would agree on that if you weren't so afraid to admit that you're wrong.
8/ Search for youself.
9/ As I proved you, we did win more than Spain
10/ We weren't good, I agree, but we didn't suck. Sucking would be what countries like Estonia, Lithuania, Portugal, Italy etc... did. We were just average, nothing to be proud of but nothing to be ashamed.
10/ Wow I made a typo at "argument" once so I don't know what it is, amazing point you found here. As solid as the rest of your logic.
this is it I'm sick of proving you wrong. Get some facts, some logic then we'll talk again when you're something else than a stubborn schoolboy. Peace out.
2.Actually im offended by such shit coming out of your mouth. Seems like i just woned ur logic :) My posts also take 1 min to write, its not like im wasting half my life here but you do care about this discussion and about spain=france or you wouldnt aswer.
3.Oh yeah they were such a top team who never won a big event besides WCG, REALLY A TOP TEAM. Maybe we should consider them best team ever maybe? A top team who wins a single event AHAHAHAH. I call that underdogs, not top team my friend. Like i said before, YOU'RE AVERAGE.
4.I never said france was bad nor it didnt have great players. Spain and france are 2 good countries, but are bad compared to sweden or denmark. I didnt change my point, im still using it lol, you are the one pretending i changed it xD france never won tournaments making them as good as spain, in other words, a average country in cs.
5.yeah i remember that match, swedes were using shit guns and shoting around in the 2nd map rofl. cmon mate, sweden has won so many things in cs1.6, do you really think they care about a shit online cup with 0 prize money? If they did care, just for the honour they would have used their best lineup. But no, they used their4th or 5th and you used ur 1st and it still was a though match AHAHAHA.
6.Uhhh trying to insult Portugal calling it a 3rd world country... Well, first of all you should learn a bit and know portugal is a 1st world country. Also, i wouldnt call other countries any names since in a few years france's population will mostly be made by immigrants :) You have so many trouble around Paris with gangs and poor people and you try to insult a country like Portugal? Please mate, i didnt insult france so i ask you to do the same. Just because ur butthurt about france being shit in 1.6 doesnt mean you have to call us names. I could say the same about sixer, majer, etc etc, after all, they are good players but playing in such a shit country with no names in cs didnt take them high enough.
7.Actually i do believe france is equal to spain, im not afraid to admit i am wrong, but in this case i am not and since you are not a top country in cs nor close to it you are as good as spain. AVERAGE.
8./9. I couldnt agree more with that, but i am not the one saying im better than anyone am i? :)
10.i could same the same about ur ARGUEMENTS, or should i call them UR OWN FUCKING OPINION? Its urs against mine :)
Saying things like: Im tired of proving you wrong, etc etc doesnt mean you are actually proving me wrong, you're just running away from the topics like you keep doing. Look at you, mad because i proving you wrong so you need to try to insult me. thats just lame :). Peace out? Thats how you do it in the gangs near Paris ? AHAHAHA.
Get a brain bro, it was easy till now.
In my opinion, French 1.6 should be respected, they've got great players and always a threat to big teams. And about Spain...nothing to mention about them because actually they didn't do anything worth mentioned.
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I could be surprised if you could explain me what does internet have to do with the unemployed tax, also the country is not 50% unemployed but 14,5% but im not affected by it so :)
Post edited 2012-10-28 20:54:03
I was just too lazy to say something obvious for stupid people.
"especially f0rest who would destroy them all 1vs5" I hope you were trolling.
PS : When I see your other comments on this thread, I just think I should stop talking to you, it's a waste of time, you're too narrowminded and stubborn.
Post edited 2012-10-29 15:11:53
PS: Like i said to someone else here, fll my carebox with ur opinion about me: \_/.
say again the king of world.
you are just 10 years old kid, grow.
" Like i said to someone else here, fll my carebox with ur opinion about me: \_/." This is probably the reason why you are mad and always wanna have the last word, ofc son I shall let you have it, since you are still a kid.
Couldnt care less about you idiots, since you guys dont face the truth i start trolling you =)
"I argued with you" And you also didn't argue, the only thing you told me was "facts ?" which is used only by people who have no idea about the subject.
score 2-0 easy..
When the teams come like ESC,Navi,fnatic,virtus pro, VG won't be at top10 anyway.
Post edited 2012-10-28 18:58:37
VG will be top1 soon :)
mouz.uk.css > mouz.uk.go
esc.1.6 > esc.go
-> it's a new game, so why sixer & co. shouldn't be better than france.css ;)
Post edited 2012-10-28 15:30:50
sixer, msx and maj3r would be on top of france no doubt
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lot of good players, won t be easy i expect close games
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