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ESWC group draw
The group draw for the 2012 Electronic Sports World Cup (ESWC) finals has been made, with the 10 participants in the CS:GO tournament being divided into two groups.
Highly-favoured Ninjas in Pyjamas will have to lock horns with mousesports' German team, Area51, ProGaming.TD and LowLandLions.
The winner of the French ESWC qualifier, who will be determined on Thursday, only one day before the start of the finals, will face FM-eSports TOXiC, Anexis, ESC Gaming and n!faculty.
The group draw was based on the seeding distribution for the tournament, which was made in accordance with the teams' results in recent tournaments and in the national qualifiers.
It was feared that an early showdown between NiP and VeryGames - who are widely expected to come out on top in the ESWC qualifier - in the group stage was in the pipeline, but the two teams will not be able to face each other before the play-offs.
Only the top two teams from each group will progress to the semi-finals, which will be played in a best-of-three mode.
| Group A |
Group B |
 Ninjas in Pyjamas |
ESWC France winner |
 mousesports |
 FM-eSports TOXiC |
 Area51 |
Anexis |
 ProGaming.TD |
 ESC Gaming |
 LowLandLions |
n!faculty |
In the female CS:GO tournament, defending champions UBINITED will come up against ALTERNATE, Epsilon eSports and blackWidow, while in the other group, Pink Zinic, now known as 0+, will meet Reason Gaming, inFernity Ladies and the winner of the French ESWC qualifier.
| Group A |
Group B |
| ESWC France winner |
UBINITED |
| 0+ |
Team ALTERNATE |
| Reason Gaming |
 Epsilon eSports |
 inFernity Ladies |
 blackWidow |
HLTV.org will be in Paris providing live coverage of the ESWC finals from November 2-4, so stay locked to our website for all the latest info on this event.
gogogogo a51 :DD!!
2012-10-29 16:58:24
That's a hell of a group, wish Dynamic would have been the ones to go with their current lineup but A51 will do well(guessing #2 in group).
2012-10-29 17:15:20
Offtopic -
How will you rank these 3 teams from US?
HoldMouseOne , Dynamic and Area51.
How will you rank these 3 teams from US?
HoldMouseOne , Dynamic and Area51.
2012-10-29 18:02:10
1a/1b/1c online, honestly. They're incredibly even but who knows on LAN. I like HMO(now Curse) the most out of them all but that's more of a personality thing than skill. If HMO can get it together on LAN they'll be a contender for a long time.
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Post edited 2012-10-29 18:23:18
2012-10-29 18:21:52
i can't see a single reason why hmo's terrible lan showing from last time would suddenly work out better next time, i can't see them really competing with dynamic or area51 at esea lan but we'll see.
2012-10-29 18:44:24
HMO actually played really well if you were watching, and they were on their way to beating A51 on nuke, but they kept making too much noise to the point that A51 were able to rotate perfectly every time and HMO were unable to run one surprise site take or fake effectively. This happened during a lot of their matches. If they're able to fix that problem, and if their online performance is any indicator, they'll be able to improve a lot next time. It's also their first season playing CS.
2012-10-29 18:59:38
yea but area51 has also improved TONS since then, it's tough to say but i can't imagine their rate of growth as a team passing area51 as long as they're motivated to get better at cs:go.
they know how to win in north america, hmo do not. big difference confidence wise.
Post edited 2012-10-29 19:07:54
they know how to win in north america, hmo do not. big difference confidence wise.
Post edited 2012-10-29 19:07:54
2012-10-29 19:07:25
you're right about the confidence aspect, and it plays a huge role. the fact that A51 and DYNAMIC are going to get international experience when HMO will not also is going to play a big role for NA competition.
at the same time, i wouldn't count out HMO's mindset for the game. they're used to winning in a variety of competitive shooting games, they have arguably the best work ethic in NA, and they're literally not afraid of any team that the game has to offer. mentally, they're an extremely tight group of players who have been playing nonstop with eachother for years. if they became motivated by the right sponsor, i personally believe they could become the best team.
all the pieces are there, only time will tell. they all have a great amount of individual skill, a lack of ego when studying the game and learning, professional level teamwork, and the hunger to prove themselves in a new competitive environment.
at the same time, i wouldn't count out HMO's mindset for the game. they're used to winning in a variety of competitive shooting games, they have arguably the best work ethic in NA, and they're literally not afraid of any team that the game has to offer. mentally, they're an extremely tight group of players who have been playing nonstop with eachother for years. if they became motivated by the right sponsor, i personally believe they could become the best team.
all the pieces are there, only time will tell. they all have a great amount of individual skill, a lack of ego when studying the game and learning, professional level teamwork, and the hunger to prove themselves in a new competitive environment.
2012-10-29 19:17:11
HMO probably have more LAN and tournament experience than TD and A51 combined... just not in CS haha. The individual skill is there, just need to get the tactics up to par with the likes of TD and A51. I think it's fair to give them a few seasons of experience before fully judging them.
Post edited 2012-10-29 19:19:14
Post edited 2012-10-29 19:19:14
2012-10-29 19:18:14
the people on the canadian/american crossfire teams (which i believe hmo used to play as well?) were the BIGGEST fans of frod at wem 2010, which leads me to believe that is an indication they failed at cs before playing a game with less competition to become "good". doesn't mean i'm right, just my speculation and hmo certainly haven't proved anything on lan, yet.
2012-10-29 19:23:13
I don't know what this has to do with what we're talking about, could you expand on it?
HMO(now Curse) come from a variety of games with no real CS background. Being as this is their first real season playing CS and I think they've done quite well online. If they can transfer this over to LAN and get more experience they'll for sure be a force in the future. They've got a lot of LAN experience in various other games, I'm sure it can transfer to CS eventually.
e: There's not a lot of big LAN tournies in NA that they can prove themselves on against other top competition.
Post edited 2012-10-29 19:34:13
HMO(now Curse) come from a variety of games with no real CS background. Being as this is their first real season playing CS and I think they've done quite well online. If they can transfer this over to LAN and get more experience they'll for sure be a force in the future. They've got a lot of LAN experience in various other games, I'm sure it can transfer to CS eventually.
e: There's not a lot of big LAN tournies in NA that they can prove themselves on against other top competition.
Post edited 2012-10-29 19:34:13
2012-10-29 19:30:35
they're probably pretty good at picking up new games quickly if they've played multiple games, but i can't see them beating the likes of semphis at simply figuring out new shit about a game constantly and improving at it etc.
esea finals were enough for 1.6, i don't see why they would not be with cs:go, especially with the global finals coming up
esea finals were enough for 1.6, i don't see why they would not be with cs:go, especially with the global finals coming up
2012-10-30 04:56:19
team dynamic is extremely strong with kiko and swag now imo it goes
dyn > 51 > hmo
dyn > 51 > hmo
2012-10-29 19:13:36
interesting speculation based on... their only match with the new lineup that ended up in a loss?
2012-10-29 19:19:55
you'll see :P
Guess we'll have to wait for LAN. Anyways gl fM and esc rooting for them besides 51
Post edited 2012-10-29 19:23:50
Guess we'll have to wait for LAN. Anyways gl fM and esc rooting for them besides 51
Post edited 2012-10-29 19:23:50
2012-10-29 19:23:15
i think swag is really gonna regret leaving area51 behind in a season or two, i hope all the best for him though... right after semphis. mvp.
2012-10-29 19:25:33
i don't think he realized how seriously A51 was going to approach CS:GO, and that he wanted to play with friends again.
either way, at least he and KiKO found the best alternative to them possible.
either way, at least he and KiKO found the best alternative to them possible.
2012-10-29 19:29:55
Not a fan of TD?
2012-10-29 19:33:31
Lurppis thinks source players can't be good.
Post edited 2012-10-29 20:46:48
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2012-10-29 20:46:14
That's unfortunate. The "Source" hate here is almost as gross as the nationalism.
Post edited 2012-10-29 21:10:10
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2012-10-29 21:09:47
You mean anti North Americanism? lol
2012-10-29 22:31:08
i think dynamic is really good and i think they will be top 2 in north america for as long as they maintain a stable roster, but i know how hard some of the guys in area51 work, and i can't see that getting beat as long as they're motivated.
we still do not know how swag/kiko fit in dynamic, they only have 3/5 of the old players from their dominating period in cs:s left on the team.
we still do not know how swag/kiko fit in dynamic, they only have 3/5 of the old players from their dominating period in cs:s left on the team.
2012-10-30 04:39:15
how old is swag??15,16? so you shouldn't expect from him to be serious with his decisions(at least in the beginning).
2012-10-29 21:06:19
i wouldn't expect him to make right decisions at that age, but we had tons of older people with more experience telling him which decision is a mistake and which isn't, and he still decided to play with friends instead of playing in a winning team (at least he's in a better team now)
2012-10-30 04:35:30
GroupAZOMG
2012-10-29 17:00:00
nice
2012-10-29 17:00:50
esc vs anexis, time for revenge for copenhagen gamez woop woop
2012-10-29 17:04:52
Group A seems way more difficult.
2012-10-29 17:05:06
Group A
1-NiP
2-Mousesports
3-Area51
Pretty good chance Mousesports can be 1st too..
1-NiP
2-Mousesports
3-Area51
Pretty good chance Mousesports can be 1st too..
2012-10-29 17:08:41
You're overrating mouz way too much, germany doesn't even have too many 1.6ers playing GO atm, the competition must be very light there.
2012-10-29 19:08:49
TD > mouz
you will se :D
1-NIP
2-A51
3-TD
probably
Post edited 2012-10-29 20:55:34
you will se :D
1-NIP
2-A51
3-TD
probably
Post edited 2012-10-29 20:55:34
2012-10-29 20:53:08
GO ESC!!
really hard group for TD :/
BUT GO TD!!!!!!!!!!!
really hard group for TD :/
BUT GO TD!!!!!!!!!!!
2012-10-29 17:08:47
anxious to see nip x td
2012-10-29 17:11:50
NiP versus Area51 is going to be a blast
2012-10-29 17:12:58
by the level of the tournament, all games will be one blast!
2012-10-29 17:23:52
Group A :
NiP
A51
Group B :
Verygames
ESC
NiP
A51
Group B :
Verygames
ESC
2012-10-29 17:12:08
Group B more like 1st VG and 2nd fm.toxic, ESC just started GO, i don't think they will be so good... maximum 3rd place for them.
2012-10-29 17:23:21
Ur right fm.toxic could be 2nd after VG
2012-10-29 17:26:34
ya fm > esc
2012-10-29 19:14:32
you saucers hype things too much, in the only 2 LANS of CS:GO history the 1.6 teams have been much superior than the source teams, 1.6 has been much more competitive and harder to master for 10 years, the 1.6 teams will probably keep their dominance without problems.
Gonna be interesting to see how much damage ESC does without enough practice though
Post edited 2012-10-29 23:32:33
Gonna be interesting to see how much damage ESC does without enough practice though
Post edited 2012-10-29 23:32:33
2012-10-29 23:25:27
you 1.6ers should stop dividing the teams for fucks sake already.
2012-10-30 00:30:35
well, to start, there's a huge difference in backgrounds while the 1.6 teams have been playing against the best and most prepared teams in the world, the source teams have been playing some random events against regular to low teams and the difference shows, look at the recent events (CPH Games and DH Valencia) both won by 1.6 players.
also, there's a lot of hate from the sauce scene to us, and they overrate their teams quite a bit but in reality the css teams are a lot weaker than they seem, just look at the results between 1.6 teams and css teams.
also, there's a lot of hate from the sauce scene to us, and they overrate their teams quite a bit but in reality the css teams are a lot weaker than they seem, just look at the results between 1.6 teams and css teams.
2012-10-30 03:41:59
"without practice"
Are you serious? they just won a CS:GO lan and have been playing csgo over 1.6 for about a month now, i guess they are completely unpracticed though.
rofl
Are you serious? they just won a CS:GO lan and have been playing csgo over 1.6 for about a month now, i guess they are completely unpracticed though.
rofl
2012-10-30 00:42:09
a month? I hope you're kidding, go read the news and watch neo's stream, they've been playing 1.6 events and neo has been playing LoL much more than CSGO.
they're unprepared, you can't compare NiP's training to ESC's, it is just a huge difference.
they're unprepared, you can't compare NiP's training to ESC's, it is just a huge difference.
2012-10-30 03:35:27
http://www.hltv.org/news/9153-esc-switching-to-csg..
go look at the date, 1 month and 1 week.
They aren't as prepared as NiP but they are not unpracticed.
go look at the date, 1 month and 1 week.
They aren't as prepared as NiP but they are not unpracticed.
2012-10-30 15:09:45
techlab took place a week after that, thats 4 weeks (1 month) and it was played for like 4 days, add it travel time and you got yourself a less week of alleged CSGO practice.
so, 3 weeks or less are now enough to master a new game? I don't think so. NiP and other teams are playing CSGO for months now since they didn't had any posibilities to attend tournaments.
Post edited 2012-10-30 15:24:12
so, 3 weeks or less are now enough to master a new game? I don't think so. NiP and other teams are playing CSGO for months now since they didn't had any posibilities to attend tournaments.
Post edited 2012-10-30 15:24:12
2012-10-30 15:18:50
we srsly need an explanation for this n! invite from ESWC or i cant take them serious anymore... 5/8th @ german quals!! what a facking joke..100% money under the table or something. they made a big fuzzz last year about why the best names couldent get an invite cuz those who played in the quals an placed better was more diserving.. an now this,WTF is going on!!!
2012-10-29 17:15:43
They're 4th in the current EPS season.
Wait for their results at ESWC, then judge.
Still there could have been a better invite, yeah.
Wait for their results at ESWC, then judge.
Still there could have been a better invite, yeah.
2012-10-29 17:21:32
...so there's only 2 teams other than mouz who are more deserving in germany? (based on eps; based on the eswc qualifier there were even more)
2012-10-29 18:45:43
they're probably going based on organizations?
2012-10-29 18:50:06
Well, it's just groupstage anyways so it doesn't really count but probably the other guys are just not able to attend. If I'm remembering it right the Alternate guys are all working beside playing and one of them is really busy during weekends with it (not 100% sure though).
Probably the same for the guys from gamed!de. I mean it's in like 3 days.
I would have chosen Alternate I guess. Only from the germans and their results.
Probably the same for the guys from gamed!de. I mean it's in like 3 days.
I would have chosen Alternate I guess. Only from the germans and their results.
2012-10-29 19:24:48
i don't understand why it's even a second german team to go, from a marketing etc perspective it would have made much more sense to send a team from another country that isn't represented yet (e.g. russia[which is for sure a big reason they picked rush3d to begin with], ukraine, finland, etc)
2012-10-29 19:26:56
I'm pretty sure they asked Virtus.Pro but probably they don't get a visa in time.
WinFakt would have been a candidate to ask too, yeah.
WinFakt would have been a candidate to ask too, yeah.
2012-10-29 19:31:57
In my opinion they have too less spots anyways since there are MANY teams out there right now. Every country should have the possibility to qualify.
2012-10-29 19:36:12
What are your predictions for the group stage? Or are you not allowed to post things like that on here? I'm just interested to know what someone with actual perspective thinks.
2012-10-29 19:43:26
we will see your predictions?
2012-10-29 20:08:10
Should be a nice tournament :)
2012-10-29 17:16:05
Area51 line-up? pls
2012-10-29 17:19:26
Mouz.male and alternate.female got this!
Oh and I hope VeryLosers gets crushed. I freaking hate them!
Oh and I hope VeryLosers gets crushed. I freaking hate them!
2012-10-29 17:20:50
alternate.fe has no chance against ubinited.
2012-11-02 00:15:35
i think area 51 can upset nip....usa teams are always underestimated by swedes until they get BEAT ;)
2012-10-29 17:21:19
Bet 100$ that NiP will own A51.
2012-10-29 17:30:02
I dunno man, area 51 has some strong 1.6ers and a very strong csser and they have been very active in csgo, maybe even as much as nip...
2012-10-29 17:49:36
remember the last time u beat the swedes? i dont :) fortunately for the them, that doesnt happen very often. but i sure as hell miss the good old american teams :) wish u guys had a much more solid scene than u do atm
2012-10-29 17:38:55
We beat plenty of swedish teams in 1.6. mostly on the level of LIONS and H2K, but EG beat fnatic to win an event, and NA teams have beaten plenty of teams from other countries.
2012-10-29 18:03:15
last time a team from the USA beated a swedish team and it was considered an upset was when JMC won against NiP in CPL 2005. It has been a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time since then, CS changed a lot and since 2006 the euros have raped intercontinental competition.
EG winning Fnatic BEAT IT wasn't an upset. EG had an incredible lineup with lurppis, goodfornothing and n0thing, three world class playas plus fRoD and storm.
Post edited 2012-10-30 03:53:01
EG winning Fnatic BEAT IT wasn't an upset. EG had an incredible lineup with lurppis, goodfornothing and n0thing, three world class playas plus fRoD and storm.
Post edited 2012-10-30 03:53:01
2012-10-30 03:51:26
lol, swedes have been raping teams from the USA since the very beginning, remember NiP vs X3? SK 2003? NiP vs Team3D? SK 2005? fnatic 2006 and the euro domination that followed? the last USA title was with the help of lurppis (EG at Fnatic Beat IT)
and to compare A51 to NiP is another stupidity from your part, Area51 lost against n0thing's team in the ESWC qualy so there's a better USA team but due to swag's choice of screwing his then teammates, A51 gets to travel and NiP is by far the best GO team atm.
and to compare A51 to NiP is another stupidity from your part, Area51 lost against n0thing's team in the ESWC qualy so there's a better USA team but due to swag's choice of screwing his then teammates, A51 gets to travel and NiP is by far the best GO team atm.
2012-10-30 03:49:13
go nip and O+
2012-10-29 17:22:08
Poland Strong
ESWC 2007,2008, and now 2012.
GL ESC.
ESWC 2007,2008, and now 2012.
GL ESC.
2012-10-29 17:22:34
Never.
2012-10-29 17:26:20
lol, never? many people said the same when the Poles (without sponsorship) faced the "unbeatable" fnatic dreamteam at WCG 2009. is unlikely but not impossible.
2012-10-29 17:32:14
You miss something important,the game was 1.6 not cs:go...anyway,miss that days when i wake up at 6.00 AM to see WCG or e-star Seoul(SK-Again)...
Post edited 2012-10-29 18:00:21
Post edited 2012-10-29 18:00:21
2012-10-29 18:00:04
still cs...
:D
but i think they won't win.
maybe DH? let's wait.
:D
but i think they won't win.
maybe DH? let's wait.
2012-10-29 18:02:22
If u already played or tryed Cs:GO,for me isn't cs...It's more like Call of Duty but imo...call of duty is better.
Post edited 2012-10-29 18:08:47
Post edited 2012-10-29 18:08:47
2012-10-29 18:08:18
how is it more like call of duty? you are fucking stupid, dude...
2012-10-29 19:10:04
Ok,go and give Heaton a bj,i don't need to discuss with you.
2012-10-29 23:33:32
...you are fucking stupid, dude...
2012-10-30 01:09:49
Say the american guy...the most stupid human race i've ever seen.Go and eat a hamburger.
2012-10-30 01:53:47
lol. 'american' isn't a race....so once again...
...you are fucking stupid, dude...
...you are fucking stupid, dude...
2012-10-30 02:24:12
You have one reply,nice,high iq.
American race?Every fucking kiddo(just like you) who lives in U.S.A and all bastards from U.S.A what race they are?Spanish?Mongolian?Go and f yourself.
American race?Every fucking kiddo(just like you) who lives in U.S.A and all bastards from U.S.A what race they are?Spanish?Mongolian?Go and f yourself.
2012-10-30 10:32:11
I only have one reply, because I only need one reply for you...
you are fucking stupid, dude.
you are fucking stupid, dude.
2012-10-30 13:50:27
http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/ahahahhhah..
2012-11-01 19:51:03
hey m8 u rly got to take responsibilities though its the internet if you want people to treat you like a human or an adult instead of a child. explain yourself if needed when you state an opinion. me myself would like to know how cs:go is closer to cod than cs? besides the graphics(which is obviously kinda the same just because its 2012)
2012-11-02 00:22:06
ahahha i guys look live SLBenfica in Portugal. u cant get over urselfs, always talking about history and ur titles in the stone age. cmon.
yeah ESC were a huge team in 1.6 but right now, they have to prove themselves in cs:go. :) gl anyway
yeah ESC were a huge team in 1.6 but right now, they have to prove themselves in cs:go. :) gl anyway
2012-10-29 17:40:19
lol
stone age...whatever ESC won the two last major tournaments.
what did i said? it was a little joke with a lot of confidence, i think NiP will win :D
but poland stronk neo>all pasza biceps hehe
stone age...whatever ESC won the two last major tournaments.
what did i said? it was a little joke with a lot of confidence, i think NiP will win :D
but poland stronk neo>all pasza biceps hehe
2012-10-29 17:46:44
i was actually refering to benfica titles when i said stone age :)
2012-10-29 18:06:30
said hater all of cs teams except ESC, bravo jacek
2012-10-29 17:46:59
said the guy that don't know me :D
2012-10-29 17:51:43
oh what did I say, french qualified team will be in the same group as nfaculty...
best of luck toxic_cr3w. X
best of luck toxic_cr3w. X
2012-10-29 17:23:41
Area51 vs mousesports should be an interesting fight for the second spot in Group A.
Group B is a bit random. France qual. winner (VG or Millenium) should place 1st, while the 2nd spot could go to either fm.toxic, Anexis or esc.
Post edited 2012-10-29 17:25:16
Group B is a bit random. France qual. winner (VG or Millenium) should place 1st, while the 2nd spot could go to either fm.toxic, Anexis or esc.
Post edited 2012-10-29 17:25:16
2012-10-29 17:24:10
NiP, mouz, cogu and a team from USA, all together... looks oldschool, makes me remember the old times
2012-10-29 17:26:44
Group A placings
1. NiP
2. Area51
3. ProGaming.TD
4. mousesports
5. LowLandLions
Group B placings
1. FM-eSports TOXiC
2. French qualifier
3. ESC Gaming
4. Anexis
5. n!faculty
1. NiP
2. Area51
3. ProGaming.TD
4. mousesports
5. LowLandLions
Group B placings
1. FM-eSports TOXiC
2. French qualifier
3. ESC Gaming
4. Anexis
5. n!faculty
2012-10-29 17:27:34
Mmm, Group A is like 3x better than B :S
2012-10-29 17:33:32
anexis lineup ?
2012-10-29 17:35:54
http://www.hltv.org/news/9274-anexis-sign-hastalav..
2012-10-29 17:38:52
Go A51!
2012-10-29 17:36:59
1- NiP
2- Pro.TD
3- Mouz
4- a51
5- LLL
2- Pro.TD
3- Mouz
4- a51
5- LLL
2012-10-29 17:40:19
just laughed before seeing your flag country
2012-10-29 20:17:48
I cant laugh about you, because i cant find any belgium team.
sad.
sad.
2012-10-29 20:33:13
you owned him so hard
2012-10-29 22:54:58
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*pause to breath*
AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHH
PWNED!!!!!!!
*pause to breath*
AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHH
PWNED!!!!!!!
2012-10-29 23:21:27
HAHAHAHAHAHA ONE KILL
2012-10-30 03:06:00
nice to see such a variety of teams from different countries. CS 1.6 might be better to play but it was getting fairly stale having teams from 4 countries.
2012-10-29 17:48:44
blackWidow lineup?
Post edited 2012-10-29 17:49:14
Post edited 2012-10-29 17:49:14
2012-10-29 17:49:01
As far as I know,
Elorita, GATA, Aidy, kYs and Barbara
Post edited 2012-10-29 18:08:44
Elorita, GATA, Aidy, kYs and Barbara
Post edited 2012-10-29 18:08:44
2012-10-29 18:07:53
ESWC France winner: VeryGames :)
2012-10-29 17:49:21
a51 will shit a brick when mouz is gonna ruin their shitnapish style.
pre-final nip vs. mouz ;)
pre-final nip vs. mouz ;)
2012-10-29 17:50:53
The Brazil needs to go well in the first championships to finally be supported by the game companies investing
Maybe we will again have a team like mibr, who remain longer among the best
Maybe we will again have a team like mibr, who remain longer among the best
2012-10-29 17:52:12
A:NiP and mouz
B:VG and ESC
B:VG and ESC
2012-10-29 18:02:46
A: NiP and Area51
B: ESC and VG
B: ESC and VG
2012-10-29 18:03:35
GO DreamTeam
2012-10-29 18:03:42
easy money for nip, eswc and wcg are shit events
2012-10-29 18:04:18
These are the best teams in the world. What ever are you talking about?
2012-10-29 18:06:22
Of course it's not, there's a lot of more and better teams than n! and some other clans >,,<
2012-10-29 18:12:24
not according to the results of the qualifiers, because every team in attendance earned their spot the hard way, other than n! who were given a free spot. This is the best CS:GO event to date, so I'm not sure where you're coming from.
2012-10-29 18:38:46
Did you even read my message?
2012-10-29 19:13:12
Yes, and it's a loaded statement. This tournament has NiP, Verygames (likely), Area 51, mousesports, Anexis, and arguably the best brazilian CS:GO team right now (especially with their bootcamp in europe). no other CS:GO team has ever offered this much competition.
Are you arguing that the rest of the spots don't contain skilled enough teams? Because this is the best tournament that any group of organizers have ever been able to put together for CS:GO. Until another tournament does it better, you can't bash it and expect people to agree with you.
Considering every other team that you may consider "bad" won their individual qualifiers, and weren't just given an invite (other than n!), it means that they earned their spot and proved themselves. Any team that did NOT do that can't attend, and that's why they're not in Group A or Group B right now.
Post edited 2012-10-29 19:25:23
Are you arguing that the rest of the spots don't contain skilled enough teams? Because this is the best tournament that any group of organizers have ever been able to put together for CS:GO. Until another tournament does it better, you can't bash it and expect people to agree with you.
Considering every other team that you may consider "bad" won their individual qualifiers, and weren't just given an invite (other than n!), it means that they earned their spot and proved themselves. Any team that did NOT do that can't attend, and that's why they're not in Group A or Group B right now.
Post edited 2012-10-29 19:25:23
2012-10-29 19:24:44
someone post all the teams lineups for both boys and gurls =p
2012-10-29 18:04:24
You can tell the groups were biased in favor of ESC. The only reason Group B would be as weak as it is is to give them the better shot at moving out of it, but I still don't see them doing that.
2012-10-29 18:05:29
It is still a very very difficult group to get out of.
Anexis have pretty much won everything there is to offer online, and have been in amazing form.
VeryGames were a dominant force in Source, and will not be an easy walkover especially what they learnt after DH Valencia.
fm-eSports TOXiC are a solid British team, with BARBARR and should prove to upset a few people.
ESC have had a rocky start in CS:GO but are finally finding their feet in the game.
n!faculty look to be the weak link in the group currently, but they will take heart from the fact that they drew with Mousesports in EPS recently.
Anexis have pretty much won everything there is to offer online, and have been in amazing form.
VeryGames were a dominant force in Source, and will not be an easy walkover especially what they learnt after DH Valencia.
fm-eSports TOXiC are a solid British team, with BARBARR and should prove to upset a few people.
ESC have had a rocky start in CS:GO but are finally finding their feet in the game.
n!faculty look to be the weak link in the group currently, but they will take heart from the fact that they drew with Mousesports in EPS recently.
2012-10-30 02:13:06
infernity ladies shopping trip
2012-10-29 18:12:16
Interesting groups indeed.
A bad one for ESC depending on how well they have adapted to CS:GO.
A bad one for ESC depending on how well they have adapted to CS:GO.
2012-10-29 18:14:30
ESC was given a shot at making it out of their group on a silver platter. The organizers clearly believe they're a top 4 contender, or they wouldn't have been placed in the imbalanced/weaker group. imo they still won't make it out of groups.
2012-10-29 18:40:52
A looks weaker to me than B, honestly.
With all my respects to the Brazilian/Belgian teams.
With all my respects to the Brazilian/Belgian teams.
2012-10-29 18:46:58
you could be right, but i'd honestly put my money on brazil to be really strong, given their bootcamp time. i only recognize cogu though, so it could go either way.
mouz, NiP, and A51 are all really good, so if TD manages to even be decent, it would make group A a lot more stacked.
mouz, NiP, and A51 are all really good, so if TD manages to even be decent, it would make group A a lot more stacked.
2012-10-29 18:53:49
I think that TD can make a upset against mouz and area51, they are training intensively for 18 days, I believe it's not enough yet, after ESWC they will continue training in IOL and will be stronger for Dreamhack.
2012-10-29 19:04:37
other than cogu, i don't know anything about TD. are the rest of them source players? they any good?
2012-10-29 19:07:02
they are the best players from Brazil, they have good skill, with cogu helping them, who has a huge intelligence about tactics (who created several tactics of the old mibr), they have everything to be strong team. but they are training on a high level only for 18 days, I think it is still not enough, but let's wait and see.
2012-10-29 19:16:29
i'm guessing you mean the best source players, because i'm pretty sure everyone has the understanding that the best brazilian players are fnx, nak, bit, FalleN, btt, etc.
i'm rooting for brazil though, except against A51 :p
i'm rooting for brazil though, except against A51 :p
2012-10-29 19:27:16
hahah 4sure
i <3 this team. :D
they won the last major 1.6 tournament of brazil yesterday, I just love fallen awp <3.
buttt now it's time to move on now and cs:go
and i think that A51 can beat even mouz.
Post edited 2012-10-29 19:36:05
i <3 this team. :D
they won the last major 1.6 tournament of brazil yesterday, I just love fallen awp <3.
buttt now it's time to move on now and cs:go
and i think that A51 can beat even mouz.
Post edited 2012-10-29 19:36:05
2012-10-29 19:34:44
This is obviously wrong as groups have been drawn from seed pools. And ESC was actually in the lower pool.
http://www.eswc.com/en/info/eswc-grand-final-2012-..
http://www.eswc.com/en/info/eswc-grand-final-2012-..
2012-10-29 20:55:26
No ladies from russia :/ missing Venema, greeny
2012-10-29 18:23:48
+1
2012-10-29 18:49:01
gl NiP <3
gl ESC :)
gl ESC :)
2012-10-29 18:36:31
Weird that noone has said what I am about to say.
I actually hope this tourney will show how random the game actually is. And would love to see that in the form of LLL winning NIP. Gl
I actually hope this tourney will show how random the game actually is. And would love to see that in the form of LLL winning NIP. Gl
2012-10-29 18:38:55
pimp u have n faculty in ur group , we wanna see if u cant beat them
2012-10-29 18:49:11
waiting for someone to post
ESWC France Winner lineup pL0X?!
ESWC France Winner lineup pL0X?!
2012-10-29 18:51:01
the France qualifier still hasn't happened, so no team has earned the spot yet. everyone pretty much knows it's gonna be verygames though.
2012-10-29 18:55:07
that's the point, there are people on this site who will think that's a team name
2012-10-29 18:55:42
NiP VS ESC-gaming final obiviously.
Golden Five vs GTR, f0rest and Xixt should be interesting even though i dont like this game too much, i love to watch competition.
Golden Five vs GTR, f0rest and Xixt should be interesting even though i dont like this game too much, i love to watch competition.
2012-10-29 18:54:27
ESC in final? optimist
Group B
Anexis and VG
Post edited 2012-10-29 19:12:12
Group B
Anexis and VG
Post edited 2012-10-29 19:12:12
2012-10-29 19:11:48
:D:D:D:D:D: esc far away from the final believe me hah
2012-10-29 19:38:45
Will there be Dreamteam for ESWC!?
2012-10-29 19:01:48
Dreamteam ?
2012-10-29 19:05:13
ESC Gaming win CS:GO ESWC :)
2012-10-29 19:31:03
imho way too random group stage, if they choose to do it bo1 might as well do another bracket stage that consists of 2nd place vs 3rd place of the other group and giving the top two teams free tickets to the semi finals.
2012-10-29 20:24:54
The funny thing is Millenium has a small but legit chance to upset VG...
2012-10-29 20:27:06
I heard they dont practise at all, so i dont think so
2012-10-29 21:20:46
thats so stupid
scream and shox were 1-2 tap shooters in source, CSGO would suit their style really good, oh well ul Milennium
scream and shox were 1-2 tap shooters in source, CSGO would suit their style really good, oh well ul Milennium
2012-10-29 21:47:51
JANCE FTW AHOJ CZECH GO GO GO MARSH JANCE DEEDEE GOGOGOG AHOJ
2012-10-29 20:29:22
nice
2012-10-29 20:31:44
NiP & fm TOXiC
2012-10-29 20:33:04
NIP WIN ESWC ;)
2012-10-29 20:55:45
iNfernity.ladies... no inFe...
2012-10-29 20:58:43
ENEM > ESWC
gogogogo UTFPR
gogogogo UTFPR
2012-10-29 21:04:18
Like always(the past 11 years) i'm rooting for the american teams :P go area51 beat em all
Post edited 2012-10-29 21:08:36
Post edited 2012-10-29 21:08:36
2012-10-29 21:08:12
NiP vs Anexis final
Reason vs alternate final
Reason vs alternate final
2012-10-29 21:26:38
Good esc. Easier way to reach playoffs :)
2012-10-29 21:34:48
The line up for O+?
2012-10-29 22:23:05
If there hasn't been any change it should be,
IpSa, lillsan, aNNa, HellRose, Llo
EDiT: Seems that IpSa dropped out (maybe due to this the team name change) and julie stepped in,
julie, lillsan, aNNa, HellRose, Llo
Post edited 2012-10-29 22:52:50
IpSa, lillsan, aNNa, HellRose, Llo
EDiT: Seems that IpSa dropped out (maybe due to this the team name change) and julie stepped in,
julie, lillsan, aNNa, HellRose, Llo
Post edited 2012-10-29 22:52:50
2012-10-29 22:41:18
GG NiP and ubi!
2012-10-29 22:31:31
Group B
1. VeryGames
2. FM-eSports TOXiC
3/4. ESC Gaming / Anexis
5. n!faculty
but I want ESC in top2 in that group to play versus NiP :D
1. VeryGames
2. FM-eSports TOXiC
3/4. ESC Gaming / Anexis
5. n!faculty
but I want ESC in top2 in that group to play versus NiP :D
2012-10-29 22:32:04
tough for a51. interesting groups though.
2012-10-29 22:34:39
WOOhoooo!! CANT WAIT!!!
2012-10-29 22:56:06
If ESC arrives with the Golden Five mentality it is over for NiP and all the sauce teams.
2012-10-29 23:33:07
stop dreaming ok
2012-10-29 23:41:00
dreaming? they are by far the most successful CS team ever, if they get in shape they will keep winning against f0rest and GTR and the sauce teams will be easy mode for them.
2012-10-29 23:57:20
They were the best on the good game, remember, they're now playing a broken game, it's random, it's not based on skills.
2012-10-30 00:06:46
they still got a huge advantage over overhyped source teams, source competition was nothing compared to 1.6, in 1.6 you had 15 teams on a very close level and 5 of them dominating the world, in source they had like only 1 decent team for years.
Post edited 2012-10-30 00:16:38
Post edited 2012-10-30 00:16:38
2012-10-30 00:10:39
ESC has spent a fraction of the time playing GO compared to every other team attending the event. Having all 1.6 players also means they don't have the source input to help them adapt to the engine/strats. as much as we all love ESC and 1.6, you're overhyping them in such a way where you've left logic out of the equation. they won't make it out of their group.
2012-10-30 06:42:24
they lack the practice: true
they lack good competition: probably true
Post edited 2012-10-30 14:59:31
they lack good competition: probably true
Post edited 2012-10-30 14:59:31
2012-10-30 14:59:15
Not alot of faith in a51 gonna say nip/mouz dominate group A and Verygames/Anexis clean up group b ^_^
2012-10-29 23:40:00
gl teams:)
2012-10-30 00:59:08
gogogogogog a51 :DDDDDDDD sg@res #1 csgo awper??? soon to see :D!
2012-10-30 01:15:27
can't wait :D
2012-10-30 01:29:54
Go for it PG.TD
2012-10-30 01:30:10
when will the french eswc spot be played out?
NiP, ESC and 51 to dominate this tournament..
NiP, ESC and 51 to dominate this tournament..
2012-10-30 02:59:37
oct 30.
Post edited 2012-10-30 03:54:30
Post edited 2012-10-30 03:54:30
2012-10-30 03:54:12
I can't believe how much css players overrate their players, I think this event will show them something.
2012-10-30 03:53:48
1.6 > sauce skillwise, thats obvious. cs:go has proven it so far
2012-10-30 04:16:38
show them something... again. lol.
2012-10-30 04:39:29
not sure why alot of you care about lurrpis and his preds etc....
he seems like a slightly above average player who is athiest...
i'd rather look elsewhere for good insight..
he seems like a slightly above average player who is athiest...
i'd rather look elsewhere for good insight..
2012-10-30 04:32:55
what does him being atheist have anything to do with anything?
especially in an age where alot of young people make fun of religious people you should know better
especially in an age where alot of young people make fun of religious people you should know better
2012-10-30 05:50:41
considering no one else has offered to do preds, we'll take what we can get.
and i'd prefer him to be atheist, or else we'd get those NiP are no match for LLL with the power of christ behind them preds, like those religious guys always seem to do.
Post edited 2012-10-30 06:45:44
and i'd prefer him to be atheist, or else we'd get those NiP are no match for LLL with the power of christ behind them preds, like those religious guys always seem to do.
Post edited 2012-10-30 06:45:44
2012-10-30 06:43:35
Group A
1NiP
2Progaming TD
3mousesports
Group B
1verygames
2esc
3fm.toxic
1NiP
2Progaming TD
3mousesports
Group B
1verygames
2esc
3fm.toxic
2012-10-30 06:11:11
Brazilians have no chance LOL. They are 2 shit.
2012-10-30 07:09:17
And you know that because you have seen then play CSGO at a lot of tournaments against lots of other teams, right?
2012-10-30 07:48:44
Ok lets start trolling :O ESC will totally FAIL ! :O
2012-10-30 10:05:13
Few people watch cs go anywhere near as much as they looked cs 1.6 and their pets
2012-10-30 10:13:55
Dear piarasty () shit! Trying in vain! This stuff no one needs! Even people abstracted from 1.6 to see that the game worthless. Question to all kinds of angels, and why you have not moved in time to the Aroma because this is the same product but with a different name? But at least 20 weeks of play - this game will not be less shitty! Try not to push GOuano sign of respect as ordinary gamers and the professional community. Valvil raise your snickering ass and do something really new and revolutionary. Make a game that rightfully replace 1.6, and garbage eat yourself!
2012-10-30 10:25:40
google translate is oh so strong with this one..
2012-10-30 11:01:34
... My brain just exploded.
Isn't it sad when someone tries to convey thy point but unable to do so due to language barrier?
Isn't it sad when someone tries to convey thy point but unable to do so due to language barrier?
2012-10-30 11:04:35
Final : ESC vs NiP, NiP win 2:1
2012-10-30 11:04:20
DreamTeam for ESWC Girls? ;D
@TheStoryTeller , totally agree with u ;)
@TheStoryTeller , totally agree with u ;)
2012-10-30 11:31:01
winfakt deserved a spot in this tournament. anyway, i hope nip win
2012-10-30 11:55:56
natus vincereeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
2012-10-30 12:23:31
It's ridiculous to say that WinFakt deserves spot. they aren't even in top40 in CS:GO and that is quite bad
finnish CS:GO "pros" as ex cs 1.6 "pros" are and were people that have really low level education in real life and you really can't expect that much from guys who can't even get to high level of education (university and so on)
finnish CS:GO "pros" as ex cs 1.6 "pros" are and were people that have really low level education in real life and you really can't expect that much from guys who can't even get to high level of education (university and so on)
2012-10-30 13:47:05
easy4nip...
2012-10-30 15:21:24
Easy groups for NIP and ESC, somehow i get the feel that tournament organizers favor these two teams, but its good that they are in different groups which makes final pretty easy to predict.
Go Neo! Go ESC! show NIP how strong poland is!
Go Neo! Go ESC! show NIP how strong poland is!
2012-10-30 16:06:22
polska
polska
polska
polska
polska
2012-10-30 16:24:09
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