The group draw for the 2012 Electronic Sports World Cup (ESWC) finals has been made, with the 10 participants in the CS:GO tournament being divided into two groups.
Highly-favoured Ninjas in Pyjamas will have to lock horns with mousesports' German team, Area51, ProGaming.TD and LowLandLions.
The winner of the French ESWC qualifier, who will be determined on Thursday, only one day before the start of the finals, will face FM-eSports TOXiC, Anexis, ESC Gaming and n!faculty.
The group draw was based on the seeding distribution for the tournament, which was made in accordance with the teams' results in recent tournaments and in the national qualifiers.
It was feared that an early showdown between NiP and VeryGames - who are widely expected to come out on top in the ESWC qualifier - in the group stage was in the pipeline, but the two teams will not be able to face each other before the play-offs.
Only the top two teams from each group will progress to the semi-finals, which will be played in a best-of-three mode.
|Ninjas in Pyjamas||ESWC France winner|
In the female CS:GO tournament, defending champions UBINITED will come up against ALTERNATE, Epsilon eSports and blackWidow, while in the other group, Pink Zinic, now known as 0+, will meet Reason Gaming, inFernity Ladies and the winner of the French ESWC qualifier.
|ESWC France winner||UBINITED|
|| Team ALTERNATE
| Reason Gaming
|| Epsilon eSports
| inFernity Ladies
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How will you rank these 3 teams from US?
HoldMouseOne , Dynamic and Area51.
Post edited 2012-10-29 18:23:18
they know how to win in north america, hmo do not. big difference confidence wise.
Post edited 2012-10-29 19:07:54
at the same time, i wouldn't count out HMO's mindset for the game. they're used to winning in a variety of competitive shooting games, they have arguably the best work ethic in NA, and they're literally not afraid of any team that the game has to offer. mentally, they're an extremely tight group of players who have been playing nonstop with eachother for years. if they became motivated by the right sponsor, i personally believe they could become the best team.
all the pieces are there, only time will tell. they all have a great amount of individual skill, a lack of ego when studying the game and learning, professional level teamwork, and the hunger to prove themselves in a new competitive environment.
Post edited 2012-10-29 19:19:14
HMO(now Curse) come from a variety of games with no real CS background. Being as this is their first real season playing CS and I think they've done quite well online. If they can transfer this over to LAN and get more experience they'll for sure be a force in the future. They've got a lot of LAN experience in various other games, I'm sure it can transfer to CS eventually.
e: There's not a lot of big LAN tournies in NA that they can prove themselves on against other top competition.
Post edited 2012-10-29 19:34:13
esea finals were enough for 1.6, i don't see why they would not be with cs:go, especially with the global finals coming up
dyn > 51 > hmo
Guess we'll have to wait for LAN. Anyways gl fM and esc rooting for them besides 51
Post edited 2012-10-29 19:23:50
either way, at least he and KiKO found the best alternative to them possible.
Post edited 2012-10-29 20:46:48
Post edited 2012-10-29 21:10:10
we still do not know how swag/kiko fit in dynamic, they only have 3/5 of the old players from their dominating period in cs:s left on the team.
Pretty good chance Mousesports can be 1st too..
Group B :
Gonna be interesting to see how much damage ESC does without enough practice though
Post edited 2012-10-29 23:32:33
also, there's a lot of hate from the sauce scene to us, and they overrate their teams quite a bit but in reality the css teams are a lot weaker than they seem, just look at the results between 1.6 teams and css teams.
Are you serious? they just won a CS:GO lan and have been playing csgo over 1.6 for about a month now, i guess they are completely unpracticed though.
they're unprepared, you can't compare NiP's training to ESC's, it is just a huge difference.
go look at the date, 1 month and 1 week.
They aren't as prepared as NiP but they are not unpracticed.
so, 3 weeks or less are now enough to master a new game? I don't think so. NiP and other teams are playing CSGO for months now since they didn't had any posibilities to attend tournaments.
Post edited 2012-10-30 15:24:12
Wait for their results at ESWC, then judge.
Still there could have been a better invite, yeah.
Probably the same for the guys from gamed!de. I mean it's in like 3 days.
I would have chosen Alternate I guess. Only from the germans and their results.
WinFakt would have been a candidate to ask too, yeah.
Oh and I hope VeryLosers gets crushed. I freaking hate them!
EG winning Fnatic BEAT IT wasn't an upset. EG had an incredible lineup with lurppis, goodfornothing and n0thing, three world class playas plus fRoD and storm.
Post edited 2012-10-30 03:53:01
and to compare A51 to NiP is another stupidity from your part, Area51 lost against n0thing's team in the ESWC qualy so there's a better USA team but due to swag's choice of screwing his then teammates, A51 gets to travel and NiP is by far the best GO team atm.
ESWC 2007,2008, and now 2012.
Post edited 2012-10-29 18:00:21
but i think they won't win.
maybe DH? let's wait.
Post edited 2012-10-29 18:08:47
...you are fucking stupid, dude...
American race?Every fucking kiddo(just like you) who lives in U.S.A and all bastards from U.S.A what race they are?Spanish?Mongolian?Go and f yourself.
you are fucking stupid, dude.
yeah ESC were a huge team in 1.6 but right now, they have to prove themselves in cs:go. :) gl anyway
stone age...whatever ESC won the two last major tournaments.
what did i said? it was a little joke with a lot of confidence, i think NiP will win :D
but poland stronk neo>all pasza biceps hehe
best of luck toxic_cr3w. X
Group B is a bit random. France qual. winner (VG or Millenium) should place 1st, while the 2nd spot could go to either fm.toxic, Anexis or esc.
Post edited 2012-10-29 17:25:16
Group B placings
1. FM-eSports TOXiC
2. French qualifier
3. ESC Gaming
*pause to breath*
Post edited 2012-10-29 17:49:14
pre-final nip vs. mouz ;)
Maybe we will again have a team like mibr, who remain longer among the best
Are you arguing that the rest of the spots don't contain skilled enough teams? Because this is the best tournament that any group of organizers have ever been able to put together for CS:GO. Until another tournament does it better, you can't bash it and expect people to agree with you.
Considering every other team that you may consider "bad" won their individual qualifiers, and weren't just given an invite (other than n!), it means that they earned their spot and proved themselves. Any team that did NOT do that can't attend, and that's why they're not in Group A or Group B right now.
Post edited 2012-10-29 19:25:23
Anexis have pretty much won everything there is to offer online, and have been in amazing form.
VeryGames were a dominant force in Source, and will not be an easy walkover especially what they learnt after DH Valencia.
fm-eSports TOXiC are a solid British team, with BARBARR and should prove to upset a few people.
ESC have had a rocky start in CS:GO but are finally finding their feet in the game.
n!faculty look to be the weak link in the group currently, but they will take heart from the fact that they drew with Mousesports in EPS recently.
A bad one for ESC depending on how well they have adapted to CS:GO.
With all my respects to the Brazilian/Belgian teams.
mouz, NiP, and A51 are all really good, so if TD manages to even be decent, it would make group A a lot more stacked.
i'm rooting for brazil though, except against A51 :p
I actually hope this tourney will show how random the game actually is. And would love to see that in the form of LLL winning NIP. Gl
ESWC France Winner lineup pL0X?!
Golden Five vs GTR, f0rest and Xixt should be interesting even though i dont like this game too much, i love to watch competition.
Anexis and VG
Post edited 2012-10-29 19:12:12
scream and shox were 1-2 tap shooters in source, CSGO would suit their style really good, oh well ul Milennium
Post edited 2012-10-29 21:08:36
Reason vs alternate final
2. FM-eSports TOXiC
3/4. ESC Gaming / Anexis
but I want ESC in top2 in that group to play versus NiP :D
Post edited 2012-10-30 00:16:38
NiP, ESC and 51 to dominate this tournament..
he seems like a slightly above average player who is athiest...
i'd rather look elsewhere for good insight..
especially in an age where alot of young people make fun of religious people you should know better
and i'd prefer him to be atheist, or else we'd get those NiP are no match for LLL with the power of christ behind them preds, like those religious guys always seem to do.
Post edited 2012-10-30 06:45:44
Isn't it sad when someone tries to convey thy point but unable to do so due to language barrier?
@TheStoryTeller , totally agree with u ;)
finnish CS:GO "pros" as ex cs 1.6 "pros" are and were people that have really low level education in real life and you really can't expect that much from guys who can't even get to high level of education (university and so on)
Go Neo! Go ESC! show NIP how strong poland is!