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Ninjas in Pyjamas have won another major title, defeating VeryGames 2-0 (16-9 on de_dust2_se and 16-1 on de_inferno_se) in the DreamHack Winter 2012 grand final to take home a ~$22,600 cheque.
The grand final of the biggest CS:GO tournament of the year, DreamHack Winter, pitted the same teams we saw in the final of the previous two international tournaments, NiP and VeryGames. The Swedes were, same as before, big favorites to take first place and earn the bigger cheque (~$22,600).
NiP selected de_dust2_se as the first map, same as at ESWC final and they started by winning their T-side pistol round. But VeryGames immediately replied by winning their eco and stopping a forced buy in the next round to get into the lead.
They increased that to 5-1 with three almost flawless rounds, taking control over the economy. A couple of rounds were exchanged, and then NiP started getting back into the game with Richard "Xizt" Landström getting 2 kills per round five times in a row to help the Swedes even the score at 6-6.
Kenny "kennyS" Schrub and VG's best player so far in the tournament, Cédric "RpK" Guipouy combined for 9 kills in the next two rounds to put the French team up 8-6 before NiP snatched the last round of the half.
NiP made the score 8-8, but then allowed VeryGames to plant on the eco that followed which enabled the French to buy two AWPs in the next round. Defending with 4 famases, the Swedish team managed to win the round thanks to Christopher "GeT_RiGhT" Alesund's 1-on-2 clutch which negated an impressive spray from Guipouy that took out 3 people just seconds before.
ESWC champions then went up 11-8, but VG replied right away, making the 21st round a very important one as both teams spent all their money going into it. It came down to the wire, with Nathan "NBK" Schmitt almost converting a 1vs3, but Alesund held his own to take out the Frenchman in their 1vs1.
That led to a 13-9 advantage for NiP which the Swedes soon converted into a 16-9 win, dropping only one round on their CT side.
A longer break took place before the second map, as the teams and their PCs were moved to the DreamArena Extreme to play the rest of the match on stage in front of a big crowd.
VeryGames picked de_inferno_se as the second map for the first time in their duels so far, but NiP won the knife round, getting to choose the side. Supported by their local fans who cheered on practically every frag by NiP, the Swedes took a 5-0 lead before VeryGames finally organized a successful attack.
But the Ninjas were in the zone and they didn't allow the Frenchmen to get more than 2 kills in the next three rounds, making the score 8-1. They continued dominating round after round, with all of their members on fire and crowd celebrating their every good move.
The fans cheered the loudest in round 13, when Alesund hid perfectly and made three excellent headshots to prevent a B push, putting NiP ahead 12-1. They were unstoppable until the very end of the half, changing sides with a 14-1 lead.
VeryGames were completely overrun, and with no break in half time, they were never going to come back from this deficit, even after getting to a 5-on-3 situation in the second pistol round. Robin "Fifflaren" Johansson, who played great in this map, along with Landström and Alesund turned the round around, with Alesund winning another 1vs1 clutch in the end. Last chance for VeryGames to potentially get back into the game fell through after another wasted 5-on-3, as their only good performer in the final, Guipouy, was left in an unlikely 1-on-2 which he was unable to convert and NiP became DreamHack Winter champions with a 16-1 win in the second map.
DreamHack Winter 2012 final standings:
1. NiP - 150,000 SEK (~$22,600)
2. VeryGames - 80,000 SEK (~$12,000)
3-4. Lemondogs - 35,000 SEK (~$5,300)
3-4. mousesports - 35,000 SEK (~$5,300)
5-8. Team Dynamic
5-8. Copenhagen Wolves
5-8. Absolute Legends
Truthly speaking i was hoping for a closer game...
Post edited 2012-11-24 18:39:34
So admins, is 'WHAT UP NOW SOURCERS!? WOO' against the rules? Why was my post deleted? I would love to hear the reasoning from the HLTV Nazis who delete anything and everything.
I guess you are a 1.6 fanboy that doesnt understand that whatever game you come from it has ZERO to do with how they preform.
and ofc I replyd to the wrong guy ^^
Post edited 2012-11-25 17:45:02
forest/gtr/xizt have strong shoulders.
Post edited 2012-11-24 18:38:05
Did they even shake hands?
"hey what can we do to get back in the game?"
" hmm we could eco twice and get some money"
"or we could buy every round and lose? "
"yea lets do that instead"
Also it's not "source tactics" please don't act like this has anything to do with source/1.6 drama, just fuck off with that.
u obviously missed that part
and u probably missed that there are 2 sourcers in nip
Anyways, Congrats NiP!
NiP vs mouz was the really final
even NiP vs PG.TD was more fun than this match
Early days, but good signs all round. RpK finally found his form again, yet the rest of the side let him down in the final. Teamwork for VG was crucial for them, yet it seems to be individual performances that seem to be the only thing happening for VG.
Not alot I can say about NiP, absolutely ruthless.
Anyway i really happy to see that VG can't dominating in GO just how they did in CSS.
Post edited 2012-11-24 23:57:50
put VG in the same group as mouz were and i bet the highest they can come to is semi final (since they would be second in group and meet nip in semi finals, unless they would lose to fnatic in group and go home). you didnt think much before you wrote, did you?
IN MY OPINION. Fyi, I actually think before writing, unlike the majority.
sad but true.
nip have 3 saucers...
Ur best 1.6 player neo are rly good at cs go
f0rest started CS:GO a lot earlier than neo. Give the other 1.6 players time to adjust they will be good.
cmon saucer too much mistakes
and yes 16-2 and 2 saucers from Heat-Gaming Fiflaren and friberg
stop reading your post
U just mad that i have right about neo.
and yes 16-2 and 2 saucers from Heat-Gaming Fiflaren and friberg
but lets stop with the sourcers/CS1.6ers are better stuff, it's really needless. a few years from now we are probably all one big happy family (I hope), and I will be rooting for sourcers aswell if they are (or become) great players, doesn't matter one bit.
Cadred opinion its not my and the other saucers opinion .
My point of view is ur why better aiming (get_right and f0rest ofc) but sniping u can compare (kennyS and RattleSNK).
If Markeloff ur good sniping navi will dominate
Post edited 2012-11-28 20:03:31
but in a short time I will surely have my own favourites from the ex sourcers aswell, like atm I like to watch rattlesnake kennys and rpk if he is "on" for instance.
and prb aswell, though Id count him as a 1.6er ;)
Its a different game you n00b
Post edited 2012-11-24 20:56:00
it's more for cs:s than 1.6
If you get my point.
oh and cogu was insain back in hes days... but thats many years ago... which he retired from back then... now... years later starting to play again now... do you rly think he would keep the same lvl of play with many years of inactivity??
one loss is not earth shattering....
it seems as though any team that dominated (except ESC/PGS and the 09 fnatic) for awhile had in common that they had an Xptionally talented sniper.
05 shaguar for NoA and walle for eye
06 coL and mibr had frod n cogu, fnatic had dsn (there was no team that really dominated that year)
07 PGS, Xption year
08 mTw sunde
09 Xptn year with gtr f0rest and gux making fnatic dominate, although dsn was still great I would not say he was the insane world best awper giving them the edge over other teams.
2010 markeloff navi
2011 delpan for SK
2012 multiple beastly awpers in fnatic (friis karrigan and even though he barely used it trace was sensational with awp aswell)
so far in CSGO they have not been able to bring their teams victories yet, as the best team has a mediocre awper but exceptional riflers and fragging IGL
unfortunately I never saw a match before 2004 so I could not make a realistic list there ;x
I will however say from what I have read and seen in non live vids ksharpe and johnnyr seemed to have made quite the influence aswell.
and lets not forget lex who has let virtus pro shine in the past.
unfortunately for guys like sixer and fallen their teams always lacked a bit to bring them prices, because I think they would have earned them with their play (and chrisJ? :P)
f0rest was mvp on dh valencia , gtr on eswc , now it's time to xizt to get an mvp.
NiP wins because f0rest, GTR, friberg, Xizt & Fifflaren are insane and play perfect teamplay. Not because 3 of them come from 1.6 background..
Most of them did that short time ago, meaning they'll need time to get used to!
I say wait until 2013 and then talk!
Oh and those 4 teams making it to top4 doesn't mean that their players are the "best" 20 players on the tournament!
So not only you don't have a point, but you have a flawed logic too!
The 3 best players in the game atm are 1.6ers!
We still haven't seen Na`Vi/fnatic's real face !
Wait for the first tournaments in 2013...My bet is that we'll have a final with 7/10 1.6ers!
And get_right for eswc
f0rest, gtr, and Xizt were the first 3 decent 1.6 players to switch, it's no wonder NiP are destroying everyone.
I can see fnatic & Na'Vi catching up soon, especially with NiP having Fifflaren in their team.
In my opinion f0rest, GeT_RiGht and friberg
Other notable players: DaZed, rattlesnk,RpK, NBK, Xizt, kennyS, ScreaM, Herden etc.
My point is that its only your opinion that the best three are all 1.6ers and you have no real evidence to support it.
You don't have any viable evidence to support your argument too! Anything we both say atm is pointless since what happens in the long run is important! We can keep arguing, but we'll never meet each other halfway!
f0rest,gtr and xizt were the only decent players to make the switch on time so far! Wait and see, maybe in 5-6 months time we can have a productive discussion concerning this topic!
Post edited 2012-11-24 21:37:28
Or keep fif but don't force him to awp
Just see their face on stage, nervous as fuck
This is so frustrating. break an arm of get_right/f0rest or something.
In prag someone else has to win else its gonna be boring to follow this.
Post edited 2012-11-24 18:49:02
it's not about 2 hours a day ;)
Post edited 2012-11-24 18:56:55
my steam hours atm is on 48.3 where i havent played the last 2-3 days... thats ~ 4 hours a day.... and i could play way more then that...
and i'd say 48.3 hrs for an university student is a lot
depends on how you make time for things etc
but think that everybody don't have this luck
btw... pro players dont play all the time... they only start playing 1 month prior to an event... just to warmup... then hardpracc with bootcamp 2 weeks before an event
however it doesn't seem to go through the thick skulls of source haters that NiP has 2 of them, both which played great in the final along with the rest of the team
gtr for mvp
just because a team is dominating in it? it's not the game fault everyon else is shit.
but tbh, mouse would never get to the final , if they faced VG.
Its not because they put more rounds against NiP , that are better then others.
Mouse would loose against VG, just because VG has so much strats (strats vs NiP dont work).
You really have to out aim him what is impossible atm.
Gtr and forest should be NERFED :D
Post edited 2012-11-24 18:51:13
overall it was a spectacular tournament with lots of good and tough matches (except the final)
gj lemon & mouz!
Does HeatoN get a considerable portion of the prize money or does he just get a small amount.. ?
NiP's tactics and skill won over stupid running and shooting like in CSS by VeryGames
or shox and scream integrate with 1.6'ers like sixer and co.
this current French team will never cut it to beat nip
Deciphering the result for you guys:
1.6 - #1
Post edited 2012-11-24 18:59:47
mvp of the tournament: forest
Post edited 2012-11-24 19:05:25
The loser today is not VG, it's all of you haters
Ciao boys! :<
Post edited 2012-11-24 19:05:16
BTW i know u will ;)
Post edited 2012-11-24 19:09:26
If you just replace the today's NiP-VG match with NiP-Mouz match, people would have said it was a better final
In 2011, i remember a semi final against SK VS Fnatic (i think). There was a triple overtime. Similarly with Na`Vi VS Fnatic
It just shows how close these teams are and gives a sense of excitement to the spectators
Bottom line : Closer matches = Evolution of the players.
VG used to trash other teams. They simply thought they are good enough. And they stopped moving forward.
And now see 1.6 history
2011 was just a mixed bag
Fresh from 2010, Na`Vi came to dominate the 2011 scence and suddenly SK comes with an unbeatable team, winning tourneys
All goes well and suddenly ESC comes. Then Na`Vi comes again. There was no clear "Team of the Year" in 2011 (Some say SK/ESC mixed)
But this gives something for the teams to look forward to. It means the 1.6 is very balanced, with a lot of top teams
As HLTV said, "1st there is NIP, then there are the rest"
GTR is clearly the mvp of both final and tournament
BTW: People saying f0rest is the mvp are clueless fanboys.
Post edited 2012-11-24 19:10:26
Then again a few vg and Mouz sourcers played really well, and the ones in lemondorks sshowed great talent/potential
BTW jw schneider etc are also sourcers right?
I dont care how many call m onliners they have a bright future in csgo
do you know if they were sourcers?
any videos to see that
GG VG, hope you guys figure out how to play against NiP in the future
hahaha sooo bad
Don't get me wrong, kennyS is a great player but it is a teamgame and the "god"-team people are talking about is not this one.
Post edited 2012-11-24 20:42:08
Though it's even obvious when i think about it with the help from gtr,forest and xizt. Those 1.6 trios have something in them that can only be acquired through years of experience in term of in-gamewise.
Friberg is amazing, i think he stepped it up and improved even to the 1.6 trios level. Fifflaren on the other hand, I think he does not live to expectation when in my opinion it's obvious he couldn't catch ups with the rest of his teammates. If he still performs like this in future then he should..
Anyway, fnatic and navi is the only hope as of right now that can potentially beat them in the upcoming tournaments.
Post edited 2012-11-24 20:52:58
or did he awp in source? because I am not at all impressed with his CSGO awp, but then again with the rifles he does seem good.
Fnatic -Rytter (no0b)
Furthermore he was the most consistent fnatic player along with MODDII :-)
I'd rather go see the movie of pelé ;p
need strong fnatic and Na`Vi
Post edited 2012-11-24 21:37:12
and sorry 4 english :DD
Post edited 2012-11-24 22:00:08
Post edited 2012-11-24 22:13:25
I just think people dont like that mouz got the harder side of the bracket, because they put up more of a fight both matches vs NiP, and feel mouz is stronger than VG, while currently their final placing represents a better result than mouz
klin n izi
well this is becoming boring...
I know it's typical for users on here to mope about how boring finals are but that's just more of an invitation for other teams to step up and dry and dethrone the giants.
Also I find their finals interesting as I get to study the meta-game a lot; I don't care much for a thrilling final unless it's a team I'm extremely emotional about.
NIP unbeaten so far, we still waiting for ESC, fnatic and na'vi to come back, but in cs:go
it is boring to watch that cs:source players that most of people dont even know them
Post edited 2012-11-25 09:46:44
1.6 requires skill.
css is for the people who failed in 1.6.
and when you put them against eachother.
1.6 will win. and yeah. with two css players, but hey. look at the overall stats/KD.
there is no competition, this game is born dead
Amazing event, with a lot of nice people, the stage was great (unlike the map of the final), the admins and the organization was really professional. Definitely awesome.