NiP triumph at DHW over VeryGames
Time: 2012-11-24 18:36
Game: Counter-Strike: Global Offensive

Ninjas in Pyjamas have won another major title, defeating VeryGames 2-0 (16-9 on de_dust2_se and 16-1 on de_inferno_se) in the DreamHack Winter 2012 grand final to take home a ~$22,600 cheque.

The grand final of the biggest CS:GO tournament of the year, DreamHack Winter, pitted the same teams we saw in the final of the previous two international tournaments, NiP and VeryGames. The Swedes were, same as before, big favorites to take first place and earn the bigger cheque (~$22,600).

NiP selected de_dust2_se as the first map, same as at ESWC final and they started by winning their T-side pistol round. But VeryGames immediately replied by winning their eco and stopping a forced buy in the next round to get into the lead.

They increased that to 5-1 with three almost flawless rounds, taking control over the economy. A couple of rounds were exchanged, and then NiP started getting back into the game with Richard "Xizt" Landström getting 2 kills per round five times in a row to help the Swedes even the score at 6-6.

Kenny "kennyS" Schrub and VG's best player so far in the tournament, Cédric "RpK" Guipouy combined for 9 kills in the next two rounds to put the French team up 8-6 before NiP snatched the last round of the half.

NiP made the score 8-8, but then allowed VeryGames to plant on the eco that followed which enabled the French to buy two AWPs in the next round. Defending with 4 famases, the Swedish team managed to win the round thanks to Christopher "GeT_RiGhT" Alesund's 1-on-2 clutch which negated an impressive spray from Guipouy that took out 3 people just seconds before.


GeT_RiGhT clutched every time it was needed in the final

ESWC champions then went up 11-8, but VG replied right away, making the 21st round a very important one as both teams spent all their money going into it. It came down to the wire, with Nathan "NBK" Schmitt almost converting a 1vs3, but Alesund held his own to take out the Frenchman in their 1vs1.

That led to a 13-9 advantage for NiP which the Swedes soon converted into a 16-9 win, dropping only one round on their CT side.

A longer break took place before the second map, as the teams and their PCs were moved to the DreamArena Extreme to play the rest of the match on stage in front of a big crowd.

VeryGames picked de_inferno_se as the second map for the first time in their duels so far, but NiP won the knife round, getting to choose the side. Supported by their local fans who cheered on practically every frag by NiP, the Swedes took a 5-0 lead before VeryGames finally organized a successful attack.

But the Ninjas were in the zone and they didn't allow the Frenchmen to get more than 2 kills in the next three rounds, making the score 8-1. They continued dominating round after round, with all of their members on fire and crowd celebrating their every good move.

The fans cheered the loudest in round 13, when Alesund hid perfectly and made three excellent headshots to prevent a B push, putting NiP ahead 12-1. They were unstoppable until the very end of the half, changing sides with a 14-1 lead.

VeryGames were completely overrun, and with no break in half time, they were never going to come back from this deficit, even after getting to a 5-on-3 situation in the second pistol round. Robin "Fifflaren" Johansson, who played great in this map, along with Landström and Alesund turned the round around, with Alesund winning another 1vs1 clutch in the end. Last chance for VeryGames to potentially get back into the game fell through after another wasted 5-on-3, as their only good performer in the final, Guipouy, was left in an unlikely 1-on-2 which he was unable to convert and NiP became DreamHack Winter champions with a 16-1 win in the second map.


NiP are the DreamHack Winter 2012 champions

Result
DreamHack Winter 201..
NiP
2
VeryGames
0

 
K - D
+/-
HS %
Rating
46-23
+23
45.7
1.48
31-26
+5
32.3
1.07
27-21
+6
63.0
1.07
 

 
K - D
+/-
HS %
Rating
36-33
+3
41.7
1.13
26-30
-4
42.3
0.87
15-35
-20
40.0
0.50
15-35
-20
60.0
0.46
 
 

DreamHack Winter 2012 final standings:

1. NiP - 150,000 SEK (~$22,600)
2. VeryGames - 80,000 SEK (~$12,000)
3-4. Lemondogs - 35,000 SEK (~$5,300)
3-4. mousesports - 35,000 SEK (~$5,300)
5-8. ProGaming.TD
5-8. Team Dynamic
5-8. Copenhagen Wolves
5-8. Absolute Legends

nice GG

Truthly speaking i was hoping for a closer game...

Post edited 2012-11-24 18:39:34
2012-11-24 18:36:55
Sorry for hijacking your post, but my post #2 was deleted and I'm pretty curious why.

So admins, is 'WHAT UP NOW SOURCERS!? WOO' against the rules? Why was my post deleted? I would love to hear the reasoning from the HLTV Nazis who delete anything and everything.
2012-11-25 01:52:09
Maybe because that comment is super dumb.
I guess you are a 1.6 fanboy that doesnt understand that whatever game you come from it has ZERO to do with how they preform.
2012-11-25 08:01:46
ur right except for the ZERO part
2012-11-25 10:38:48
2 sourcers and 3 1.6ers won so stfu with your stupit comments...on topic: gg wp really nice game from nip thought verygames would take some more rounds but was a fun game 2 watch anyways.
and ofc I replyd to the wrong guy ^^

Post edited 2012-11-25 17:45:02
2012-11-25 17:43:53
"and ofc I replyd to the wrong guy ^^"? or you read what i wrote again? :)
2012-11-25 20:59:59
the 3 1.6'ers from NiP are in the top 5 in stats, the other 2 are nowhere in sight.
forest/gtr/xizt have strong shoulders.
2012-11-26 21:42:48
Well said rubbe ;)
2012-12-01 13:57:32
because they want to try and limit the amount of flame-war mongering trolls on this site? just a guess
2012-11-25 11:25:43
GG
2012-11-24 18:37:13
by: squiz
#5
Same old, same old...
2012-11-24 18:37:14
2easy4NiP
2012-11-24 18:37:28
AGAiN
2012-11-24 19:08:52
klin n izyyyyy
2012-11-24 19:17:49
by: Jeza
#8
Would have preferred Mousesports final. Mouz vs VG semi-final would have been fun.

Post edited 2012-11-24 18:38:05
2012-11-24 18:37:33
definitely true, but the bracket match-ups were drawn from a hat and completely random. not much control over things like that.
2012-11-24 18:49:20
by: czabi
#9
16:9 16:1 in final sad...
2012-11-24 18:37:38
hahahaha yeah, so tragic

Post edited 2012-11-24 18:38:35
2012-11-24 18:38:15
So this is how it's gonna be for the next few months. Every final will involve VG and NiP
2012-11-24 18:37:45
Nope, VG gonna fall
2012-11-24 18:41:49
i yhink mouz.uk and fnatic will be better than VG in the upcoming events :P
2012-11-24 18:42:13
mouz fnatic > verygames not long from now
2012-11-24 18:43:51
Hardly, vg is far from untouchable once other teams come with better preparation (mouz fnatic lemondogs navi german topteam etc)
2012-11-24 19:41:09
Also nip may still take the first 2013 events, but will drop a few later on.
2012-11-24 19:43:04
holly sweet mother of god! 16-1 .......
2012-11-24 18:37:52
again same old story.. thought this time VG would put up a good fight.
2012-11-24 18:38:07
by: Dok1
#61
I think NiP vs. mouz was the closest match so far (atleast both maps with 16:14 score).
2012-11-24 18:43:39
they crushed them on nuke though :-PPp
2012-11-24 18:45:22
by: jz-
#14
congrat´s NIP :D
2012-11-24 18:38:11
gg too easy
2012-11-24 18:38:12
gg wp.
2012-11-24 18:38:20
WOW rly? (sarcasm)
2012-11-24 18:38:24
booooooooooooooooring
2012-11-24 18:38:33
Its getting boring..
2012-11-24 18:38:36
Brutal Rape.
Boring Final.
2012-11-24 18:38:37
+1
2012-11-24 19:06:04
They literally bought up every time they had over 3.6k they didn't have a single awp for the whole half when both KennyS and SmithZz have been on form all tournament with awps.

Did they even shake hands?
2012-11-24 18:38:51
Yep, now at the end.
2012-11-24 18:41:01
source tactics i'm afraid

"hey what can we do to get back in the game?"

" hmm we could eco twice and get some money"

"or we could buy every round and lose? "

"yea lets do that instead"
2012-11-25 17:31:13
Yea well people are criticising their p250/grenade save rounds but they actually won a lot of those rounds, I think they just got into a position where they were so desperate to win a round that they were buying AKs every time they could.

Also it's not "source tactics" please don't act like this has anything to do with source/1.6 drama, just fuck off with that.
2012-11-25 18:25:06
I'm done watching this game.
2012-11-24 18:39:05
NiP is going to get some real cash this year, and the next.
2012-11-24 18:39:24
gg NiP :d
2012-11-24 18:39:27
if it was fnatic and NiP it can be awsome
anyway..ez4nip
2012-11-24 18:39:33
No any fight from VG's side
2012-11-24 18:39:52
fnatic , mousesports > verygames2low
2012-11-24 18:39:53
gg but was kinda a boring match imo
2012-11-24 18:39:55
for me not) but im fan of nip so) maybe was boring for fan of VG or just random viewer :)
2012-11-24 18:44:16
lol@"cs:go rivaling LoL". I wish this was true but no, not even close
2012-11-24 18:40:09
1.6ers win 16-1 ... They probably lost that one round in purpose to make meaningful numbers! Sourcers got crushed again as always!
2012-11-24 18:40:25
u like to make clear ur an idiot in every post u make
2012-11-24 18:44:44
Well the 1.6ers did win. The truth in life sometimes does hurt.
2012-11-24 18:46:18
"Sourcers got crushed again as """"""always!"

u obviously missed that part

and u probably missed that there are 2 sourcers in nip
2012-11-24 18:51:00
and they're probably not doing even 30% of that doing dat NiP 1.6 trio :)
2012-11-24 18:52:41
sorry, cant start a discussion with dumb kids
2012-11-24 18:55:31
All source players are gay:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
2012-11-24 20:59:15
Friberg is really good, Fifflaren seems really good in pistol rounds as he's awesome with p250.Altough I agree =D

Post edited 2012-11-24 19:26:57
2012-11-24 19:25:59
#64
2012-11-24 18:53:11
Fiflaren and friberg best 1.6rs players ever!

(sarcasm)

Nip are 3 1.6rs and 2 saucers

Post edited 2012-11-24 19:15:19
2012-11-24 19:12:08
GG...but this is getting boring tbh, the other teams really need to step up. This was a complete decimation of VG.

Anyways, Congrats NiP!
2012-11-24 18:40:27
Don't worry we have Fnatic and Na'vi who will hopefully show us something :D
2012-11-24 18:47:59
yeah in long future and possibly
2012-11-24 23:06:23
LOL
NiP vs mouz was the really final
even NiP vs PG.TD was more fun than this match
2012-11-24 18:40:37
who cares when NiP still stays unbeatable @lan
2012-11-24 18:42:13
rly?
2012-11-24 18:43:21
ye they win 34 matches and once was a tie :)
2012-11-24 18:45:07
that tie it was online against a spanish team, they had an "Aguila" player, but i dont remember the name of the team lol
2012-11-24 22:51:42
ASES
2012-11-24 23:50:59
thank you
2012-11-25 00:19:59
yes
2012-11-24 18:45:15
niceeeee
2012-11-24 18:40:51
Expected, 1st map was insane, 2nd map was slightly disappointing, really wanted a third map.

Early days, but good signs all round. RpK finally found his form again, yet the rest of the side let him down in the final. Teamwork for VG was crucial for them, yet it seems to be individual performances that seem to be the only thing happening for VG.

Not alot I can say about NiP, absolutely ruthless.
2012-11-24 18:41:33
Ex6tenz is shocking at CSGO. I realise he's the strat caller but after watching him dominate people at CSS for years its horrible to watch him panic spray a Galil and die every round.
2012-11-24 18:44:13
He had some really good moments throughout the tournament. But then that isn't just him really though, all 5 of them have been like that, it was like Dynamic, who went hot and cold every few rounds.
2012-11-24 18:46:05
I missed them playing Dynamic but in I didn't see him do anything remotely impressive or similar to his CSS level for this whole tournament, or actually in general in CSGO.
2012-11-24 18:47:50
ex6tenz was shocking in css.
2012-11-24 20:47:59
He at least held his own, he just looks amateurish at CSGO. I'd argue he looked like one of the weakest players of the whole event.
2012-11-24 21:22:21
I recon if Rpk had stepped up in the last final vs NIP, they might have led to OT potentially letting them win.
2012-11-24 18:47:00
RpK did everything for VG.
2012-11-24 19:25:25
I meant the other final a few weeks ago.
2012-11-24 22:17:36
Oh, i didnt watch that one. But RpK and NbK shoots most on the team. :P
2012-11-24 23:08:38
Looks like that they needs to bringing back apEX, instead of smithz for example.
2012-11-24 18:48:06
If there was a line up change, I'd say bring back shoxie, I doubt they will at present.
2012-11-24 19:04:08
I think that there is still needs some changes for VG. First of all NiP is better in personal skill.
2012-11-24 19:18:49
Not really, lurppis had an interesting point, VG need to stop trying to go for picks, as 1 on 1 they won't get them, they need to use their team work to undermine NiP's dominance currently.
2012-11-24 19:20:52
apEX??? needs more shox!
2012-11-24 23:07:05
First of all i'm not a sauser, and if be serious, i don't have any fucks about who shox is, but i saw apEX in action @ CS:GO, and this guy looks absolutely dominating, also i know that he once was in VG at sauce, so i just trying to assume that this is would be a perfect addition by VG, cause they have some experience how to play with apEX in one team.
Anyway i really happy to see that VG can't dominating in GO just how they did in CSS.

Post edited 2012-11-24 23:57:50
2012-11-24 23:56:33
form? i lol'd
2012-11-25 17:31:59
by: Dok1
#40
so boring, wished it would be NiP vs. mouz. They atleast would be pumped on stage, VG seemed nervous.
2012-11-24 18:41:35
mouz deserved 2nd spot =<
2012-11-24 18:41:47
by: TricoN - HLTV.org
#46
Agree :(
2012-11-24 18:42:29
Why didn't they get it then? Obviously the better team deserved to be in the finals, i.e, NiP & VG
2012-11-24 18:48:05
yeah but mouz hade to face nip in the semis so you can make the point that mouz were better this tournament
2012-11-24 18:54:19
"Why didn't they get it then?"
put VG in the same group as mouz were and i bet the highest they can come to is semi final (since they would be second in group and meet nip in semi finals, unless they would lose to fnatic in group and go home). you didnt think much before you wrote, did you?
2012-11-24 18:59:57
VG made the finals, mouz didn't, doesn't that tell you anything? You can't say mouz was a better team since they didn't play eachother. You're able to compare their performance in each group, but you can't compare them team vs team since they never played eachother.

IN MY OPINION. Fyi, I actually think before writing, unlike the majority.
2012-11-25 16:58:59
you actually compared them here: "Obviously the better team deserved to be in the finals, i.e, NiP & VG". youre saying VG were better this tournament than mouz?
2012-11-26 13:58:08
best source team ever, is simply a joke 4 f0rest&GeT_RiGhT .
sad but true.
2012-11-24 18:42:00
+1
2012-11-24 18:42:47
ESC crash out of group stages....
2012-11-24 18:50:53
by who? by VG? not..
2012-11-24 18:53:56
they would lose to VG tbh
2012-11-24 19:00:28
remember 16-1 vg vs esc? not...

nip have 3 saucers...

Ur best 1.6 player neo are rly good at cs go

sarcasm
2012-11-24 19:18:44
arguably the best cs 1.6 player. I mean f0rest was never that far behind and it comes down to personal preference.

f0rest started CS:GO a lot earlier than neo. Give the other 1.6 players time to adjust they will be good.
2012-11-24 20:19:46
he didnt start it a lot earlier than neo and f0rest has been amazing from the beginning while neo is a noob at this game ... stop complaining about esc , fnatic was practicing 5 days and still raped esc..
2012-11-24 20:52:17
Neo's main strength is his amazing movement in 1.6. It was taken away from him in CS GO. I think that's why he is not that good in CSGO.
2012-11-25 15:36:21
That and motivation/short time of csgo exp
2012-11-26 14:42:55
+1
2012-11-26 15:00:23
16-2*

2 saucers*

cmon saucer too much mistakes
2012-11-24 21:28:24
U just mad that i have right about neo.
and yes 16-2 and 2 saucers from Heat-Gaming Fiflaren and friberg

2012-11-24 23:59:54
i've never said anything about neo? :D and you are right that he & the whole esc squad have been ran over so far. they will be better in the near future i believe, you'll see.

Post edited 2012-11-25 03:33:56
2012-11-25 03:32:43
NiP have 3 sourcer

stop reading your post
2012-11-24 21:43:14
yeah, that's very OBJ3CTIVE
2012-11-25 07:58:56
3 saucers? Right
2012-11-26 14:43:59
CHILL OUT

U just mad that i have right about neo.
and yes 16-2 and 2 saucers from Heat-Gaming Fiflaren and friberg

2012-11-24 23:59:54
2012-11-26 19:41:57
neo doesn't have the GO exp atm, and he probably lacks the motivation to catch up with the top players, so I doubt he will become really good. but if either navi or fnatic really tries they will become way better than VG (assuming VG keeps these 5 players together)
but lets stop with the sourcers/CS1.6ers are better stuff, it's really needless. a few years from now we are probably all one big happy family (I hope), and I will be rooting for sourcers aswell if they are (or become) great players, doesn't matter one bit.
2012-11-26 22:21:34
I like 1.6rs rly but u just hate saucers idk why...

Cadred opinion its not my and the other saucers opinion .

My point of view is ur why better aiming (get_right and f0rest ofc) but sniping u can compare (kennyS and RattleSNK).

If Markeloff ur good sniping navi will dominate
2012-11-27 19:59:52
Why do you thinl I hate soutcers, in fact I am impressed so much with rattlesnake, as he is a great igl and fragger/sniper in one
2012-11-27 22:11:26
liquid because 90% hate us idk why and u understand what ratlesnck say in this interview http://youtu.be/JuKKV6Pph7Y?t=5m50s

Post edited 2012-11-28 20:03:31
2012-11-28 20:03:15
well its true there is way too much hatred between source and 1.6ers, and true that I feel obliged to stick up for ESC navi fnatic, as they are being called weak after a short bit of training.
but in a short time I will surely have my own favourites from the ex sourcers aswell, like atm I like to watch rattlesnake kennys and rpk if he is "on" for instance.
and prb aswell, though Id count him as a 1.6er ;)
2012-11-28 21:07:45
Well have fun 1.6er hope u enjoy sauvers like i enjoy 1.6rs :D
2012-11-28 21:49:03
=D <3
2012-11-28 22:23:31
+2
2012-11-24 18:43:39
ESC Gaming is a joke too and they were best in 1.6

Its a different game you n00b
2012-11-24 18:45:19
they will get there mate :)
2012-11-24 18:46:44
But you gotta admit that Fnatic did quite well for what they had practiced.
2012-11-24 18:47:20
they were not the best in 1.6 lol
2012-11-24 18:47:36
they werent the best ? wtf are wrong with u people hahaha esc were best 2007 and arguably best with SK 2011 NOTHING MORE ? 2006 fnatic best ,2008 mTw were the best , 2009 fnatic, 2010 NaVi with the only truly opponent that year -->fnatic

Post edited 2012-11-24 20:56:00
2012-11-24 20:55:38
Actually it was mTw who was the main opponent in 2010, they made it to the finals against them a lot of times and had by far the closest games against them.
2012-11-24 22:06:34
No, fnatic was the 2nd best team behind Navi in 2010.

fnatic won 2nd most events that year and they also BEAT Navi several times.

2012-11-25 00:49:57
please dont cry :(
2012-11-25 20:44:03
ESC best 1.6 team ever, simply a joke 4 random css mixteams D;
2012-11-24 18:45:45
YET.
2012-11-24 18:47:21
lol, so for NiP (vg are a joke 4ever) ,and ESC (are a joke to random css players yet) lol
1.6 fanboys
2012-11-24 18:55:32
Of course, if VG came from source and plays cs: go before the poles
2012-11-24 19:00:16
It is a completely different game than source. Maps are 10x less room. Recoil is compeltely different. Movement is different. Models are different sizes. Hitboxes are smaller than css and 1.6. Do you wan't me to continue? If you don't believe me, I dare you open CSS and you will see how different the maps actually are.
2012-11-25 15:15:47
i don't care dude...
it's more for cs:s than 1.6
2012-11-25 16:41:23
Explain how? When nothing is the same? I guess you will say because it's the same engine. Does that mean css players have an advantage on Dota2 aswell?
2012-11-25 17:00:17
I agree, because the “switchover” from CS:S is way easier than from 1.6. It’s almost the same engine; in addition I would say CS:GO is CS:S 2, which is nice for me and all sourcers.

- n!faculty player
2012-11-25 17:06:09
i wont say esc was the best 1.6 team ever... since they did not win year after year after year after year... you know... like vg...
2012-11-24 18:50:18
Yea VG was pretty good back in the days, just like cogu apperently was in 1.6. Now their both shit.
If you get my point.
2012-11-24 18:51:39
VG isnt shit) they making the finals anyway) its just NiP too strong
2012-11-24 18:54:52
not rly... since vg have been the best in source for a looooong time.... many years infact... have ANY 1.6 player/team done that? no...

oh and cogu was insain back in hes days... but thats many years ago... which he retired from back then... now... years later starting to play again now... do you rly think he would keep the same lvl of play with many years of inactivity??
2012-11-24 19:01:29
they lost cpg
2012-11-24 19:19:53
so?... they where STILL considered the best in source... every team said that VG was STILL the team to beat


one loss is not earth shattering....
2012-11-24 19:22:53
Im just saying they didnt won all but still the best team in css
2012-11-24 19:25:01
thats what im saying... dont knokw what you want from this conversation then....
2012-11-24 19:29:17
Unfortunately, CS 1.6(recent years) was not dominated by one team for long time like VG did in CSS. ESC didn't dominate entirely but came out on top on many BIG tournaments and but that was not continuously like year after year. They were the best team in terms of teamplay, Na'Vi was the best team tactically. And the recent fnatic team and SK'2011 had the best team in terms of individual skills.
2012-11-24 20:12:29
Actually the best team tactically was probably mTw '08, Na'Vi was the best mix between amazing aim and amazing tactics, however the mix made them the best team, not one of them.
2012-11-24 22:09:02
By recent years I meant 2009-2012 :( . Na'Vi was the BEST in 2010 for sure. But, in 2011 SK and ESC stole the show while Na'Vi consistently got podium finishes but few top of the podium. And in 2012, fnatic was unstoppable.
2012-11-25 03:14:18
well sundes awping kind of helped alot ;D
it seems as though any team that dominated (except ESC/PGS and the 09 fnatic) for awhile had in common that they had an Xptionally talented sniper.
05 shaguar for NoA and walle for eye
06 coL and mibr had frod n cogu, fnatic had dsn (there was no team that really dominated that year)
07 PGS, Xption year
08 mTw sunde
09 Xptn year with gtr f0rest and gux making fnatic dominate, although dsn was still great I would not say he was the insane world best awper giving them the edge over other teams.
2010 markeloff navi
2011 delpan for SK
2012 multiple beastly awpers in fnatic (friis karrigan and even though he barely used it trace was sensational with awp aswell)
so far in CSGO they have not been able to bring their teams victories yet, as the best team has a mediocre awper but exceptional riflers and fragging IGL
2012-11-28 22:37:05
definitely sunde was really good with awp but more because he was used the right way with the right tactics I think. that list is actually quite interesting, I an wondering if. you can in even further back, unfortunately my memory kind. of fools of then as I really cannot remember I wanna say that fisker was an extraordinary sniper as well but I just cannot remember :)
2012-11-29 00:23:50
fisker vilden for SK yeah, but I would say elemeNt potti and spawn were key for most of SK's dominating before 2006
unfortunately I never saw a match before 2004 so I could not make a realistic list there ;x
I will however say from what I have read and seen in non live vids ksharpe and johnnyr seemed to have made quite the influence aswell.
and lets not forget lex who has let virtus pro shine in the past.
unfortunately for guys like sixer and fallen their teams always lacked a bit to bring them prices, because I think they would have earned them with their play (and chrisJ? :P)
2012-11-30 19:50:37
definitely agree no sk. I have not seen any games pre 03 either but I guess one could add. kk for the titans. as well though it was more a mix of amazing awp and amazing tactics :)
2012-11-30 20:15:51
Cool, too bad I never saw titans play :(
2012-12-01 11:59:46
You guys miss the point entirely. Verygamse dominated because all the other good teams left. mousesports came back for CPH 2012 and beat them.
2012-11-25 15:17:27
VeryGames dominated, that's what I said, mate. The source guys who think ESC was like VG in CS 1.6, are completely clueless.
2012-11-25 15:31:45
vg were dominant in 2010, in 2011 they were slipped massively before they switched to csgo. they need to bring shoxie back and ex6tenz really really needs to work on his individual game.
2012-11-25 03:51:34
Cogu had a 2 year break with a few months play in between, and wasn't good in 1.6 anymore either
2012-11-26 14:47:34
Not again stupid comment.
STOP COMPARE ALL THE SCENES ALL THE TIME THIS IS A NEW GAME...................I wish there was a bf3 team raping everyone just to prove that anyone can be good............................
2012-11-24 18:48:53
I WANNA SEE COPENHAGEN GAMES + _ALL_ BEST TEAMS
2012-11-24 18:42:40
Nice Game ...but could have been a better fight !!
2012-11-24 18:42:41
izipizi
2012-11-24 18:42:41
Expected, f0rest and GeT_RiGhT were so crazy on the second map.. gg Ninjas!
2012-11-24 18:42:52
I hope Navi fnatic and Esc master the game as soon as possible. Verygames are too low
2012-11-24 18:42:53
Xizt,Gtr,f0rest > VG
f0rest was mvp on dh valencia , gtr on eswc , now it's time to xizt to get an mvp.
2012-11-24 18:43:03
wtf vg?
2012-11-24 18:43:16
lolol the brazilian team did more rounds on NiP than VG lololol lawl
2012-11-24 18:43:28
domination rules the nation
2012-11-24 18:43:31
I have a feeling that we might start seeing a lot of NiP vs fnatic Grand finals from January.
2012-11-24 18:43:39
all people who dont like vg it's just jalous too see vg always second and beat all team without NiP (but all team can't too win 1 map against NiP)
2012-11-24 18:43:57
true story. + VG or some1 else will beat nip soon, fnatic,vg,mouz,or ases.
2012-11-24 18:45:36
vg will most likely never beat NiP, keep dreaming though ^^
2012-11-24 21:32:09
english ?
2012-11-24 18:45:59
lol, you get what i mean, or u must be brainless
2012-11-24 18:46:56
what are you talking about ?
2012-11-24 18:49:34
you said '' english'' my english isnt best but i think u should understand it .
2012-11-24 18:50:25
I replied to eXecutr ...
2012-11-24 18:52:52
ohh i see, L O L z , sorry :d
2012-11-24 18:58:53
LOL -.-
2012-11-24 21:47:53
VG had a easy group and they were not shining in particular. Don't know what happened to them.
Just see their face on stage, nervous as fuck
2012-11-24 18:52:34
well after 2 tournaments where they hate been beaten it gets harder and harder to stay confident the same happened to mtw in '10 when facing na'vi :)
2012-11-24 19:14:29
too ez
2012-11-24 18:44:30
freshmind where are you now?

GG NiP!
2012-11-24 18:44:49
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is so frustrating. break an arm of get_right/f0rest or something.


In prag someone else has to win else its gonna be boring to follow this.
2012-11-24 18:45:10
This is getting boring. Unfortunately no other teams can practice 5+ hours a day like NIP does....
2012-11-24 18:45:28
Please explain why they cant practice as much?
2012-11-24 18:46:35
Well not even verygames can practise how nip do, because every single members of verygames goes to school, what about nip??? Maybe just xist.
2012-11-24 18:47:20
dude i go to coledge but i can play at least 4 hours per day without problem, that's no exuse...
2012-11-24 21:21:01
because only a few teams get inoff money to live only with CS ;)

Post edited 2012-11-24 18:49:02
2012-11-24 18:48:33
you can stil do alot of cs... i go to university and still play... problem??
2012-11-24 18:52:26
i think u cant spend as much time as nip do to cs
it's not about 2 hours a day ;)

Post edited 2012-11-24 18:56:55
2012-11-24 18:56:38
where have i said i only play 2 hours a day??....

my steam hours atm is on 48.3 where i havent played the last 2-3 days... thats ~ 4 hours a day.... and i could play way more then that...
2012-11-24 19:19:16
they have more

and i'd say 48.3 hrs for an university student is a lot
2012-11-24 19:23:00
not rly imo...

depends on how you make time for things etc
2012-11-24 19:24:07
yes, if you have time to, it's cool
but think that everybody don't have this luck
2012-11-24 19:27:47
in my experiance there is ALLWAYS time for cs.... all depends on how you plan the time.... look at karrigan

btw... pro players dont play all the time... they only start playing 1 month prior to an event... just to warmup... then hardpracc with bootcamp 2 weeks before an event
2012-11-24 19:37:25
yes, atm there are big events each months since the CSGO release. so yes, players are playing a lot and had some bootcamps since the start.
2012-11-24 19:41:19
indeed :)
2012-11-24 19:48:56
hahahah university is taking maybe half of the day i think if u are in the pro scene 5 hours is nothing really so stop complaining

Post edited 2012-11-24 20:59:08
2012-11-24 20:58:59
what? have you checked markeloff stats for example? 128h last two weeks, that makes 9h a day.
2012-11-24 18:55:55
he wasnt at this tournament though was he
2012-11-24 19:04:33
no but by the look of his stats we'll have them around soon and prepared.
2012-11-24 19:07:11
gg
2012-11-24 18:45:32
i stop following tournaments like this to boring
2012-11-24 18:45:50
Only grand final was boring.
2012-11-24 18:48:13
none of the bracket matchups went to a third map, but at least Group D was interesting
2012-11-24 19:05:00
well done!nip
2012-11-24 18:45:50
lmfao verygames are so shit

however it doesn't seem to go through the thick skulls of source haters that NiP has 2 of them, both which played great in the final along with the rest of the team

gtr for mvp
2012-11-24 18:48:10
forest mvp i think
2012-11-24 18:50:46
LOL
2012-11-24 19:14:25
Xizt
2012-11-24 21:48:52
VG are so shit because they never losed any games except against NIP? So every teams except NIP are so shit... Wake up dumbass.
2012-11-24 18:54:05
I'm sorry, I am a dumbass, I am no match for your superior intelligence

on a serious note, stfu
2012-11-24 19:18:36
I hope vg will face mouz at mindgames.
2012-11-24 18:48:59
lmao "i'm done speccing this crap"

just because a team is dominating in it? it's not the game fault everyon else is shit.
2012-11-24 18:49:38
hehe, i'm sure those ppl only saw the final. and it's 1.6 players that hopes to see the old game back to mainstream again :) i feel bad for them.
wait nah..
2012-11-24 19:00:19
NiP just crushed them
2012-11-24 18:49:40
NiP to strong.

but tbh, mouse would never get to the final , if they faced VG.
Its not because they put more rounds against NiP , that are better then others.
Mouse would loose against VG, just because VG has so much strats (strats vs NiP dont work).
You really have to out aim him what is impossible atm.
Gtr and forest should be NERFED :D
2012-11-24 18:49:48
(strats vs NiP dont work) :DDDDDDDD L@L
2012-11-24 18:58:06
I was writing something, then scrolled up and saw your comment, well I'll just add a +1 to this.
2012-11-24 19:03:47
you are so wrong. Mouses teamplay is alot better against nip than vg. that's a fact proven by this tournament
2012-11-24 19:04:46
VG were trying the aimgame which clearly won't work against NiP
VG were not trying any strats at all!
2012-11-24 19:06:52
Groupstage was the only fun in this tournament.
2012-11-24 18:50:25
by: BeX
#121
NiP > VG
2012-11-24 18:50:29
wohoooooooo :D
2012-11-24 18:50:34
R
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P
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2012-11-24 18:50:41
would be great to see a lot of good teams at Mind Games. but VG won't get it over NiP, hope they will start to get defeated because finals starting to be boring

Post edited 2012-11-24 18:51:13
2012-11-24 18:50:54
f0rest mvp
2012-11-24 18:51:15
NIP too strong!
2012-11-24 18:51:33
always same history, kinda boring now
2012-11-24 18:51:37
Congratulations, Na`Vi!
2012-11-24 18:51:48
NiP best of the world =) nice play =)
2012-11-24 18:51:49
16-1 come on... NiP at least could let them win 14 rounds.
2012-11-24 18:52:15
Wait for NaVi and fnatic to get more used to the game. And they could put up a fight. MODDII has already proved he still got it in GO. Time for others to step up.
2012-11-24 18:52:20
Boring.
2012-11-24 18:52:48
Sad second game.. almost a no contest...NiP surely gonna dominate for a long period and its gonna be really frustrating for VG
2012-11-24 18:53:09
nip too stronk :S we need a team who can destroy em. Now we for sure VG wont be that team.
2012-11-24 18:53:32
gg
2012-11-24 18:53:49
This is just sad and disapointing..

overall it was a spectacular tournament with lots of good and tough matches (except the final)

gj lemon & mouz!
2012-11-24 18:54:26
Wow, NiP is gonna win some serious cash the following year if they keep up in the same pace and defeat VG and most probably Mouz and especially Fnatic as they may and most probably would improve within a matter of time.

Does HeatoN get a considerable portion of the prize money or does he just get a small amount.. ?
2012-11-24 18:54:47
I highly doubt they will keep winning as much, more teams will come and more will study them learning how to shut them down, it's fairly easy to get to the top the hard thing is to stay there :)
2012-11-24 19:20:55
just ridiculous
2012-11-24 18:54:52
NiP vs mouz in the final would be much more entertaining... VG once again raped by the Swedes. GeT_RiGhT and f0rest are the best players in CS:GO without a doubt.

NiP's tactics and skill won over stupid running and shooting like in CSS by VeryGames
2012-11-24 18:56:03
SMASHING ! it was expected
2012-11-24 18:56:28
Vg needs.

nbk
rpk
ex6tense
shox
screaM
2012-11-24 18:57:00
and nip gonna hire Delpan :D sup?:D
2012-11-24 18:57:54
+1

or shox and scream integrate with 1.6'ers like sixer and co.

this current French team will never cut it to beat nip
2012-11-24 18:59:11
LOL, no KennyS?
2012-11-24 20:51:17
Not that big a fan of him myself tbh
2012-11-24 20:54:25
But imo he > Rpk
2012-11-24 21:00:53
rpk's highest level imo is much higher then kennyS rpk was the best rifler in source for like 2 years at one point, he was not so good in the last year though.
2012-11-24 21:49:00
kennys is still inexperienced and from many opinions weakest link on the team not by aimskills but by experience
2012-11-24 23:13:15
rpk is the best in that verygames team by far in csgo ;D hes sick
2012-11-24 23:40:11
im sorry but this was superboring
2012-11-24 18:57:38
cause ESC was bad?:D
2012-11-24 18:58:11
i dont know why, im just saying i felt bored
2012-11-24 19:00:36
i would be bored too if it wasnt a swedish team. i can see your point
2012-11-24 19:07:29
I found it super fun :D:D:D:Ddddd
2012-11-24 19:01:34
ahgahah im not swede but.. im too :D
2012-11-24 20:06:46
OUCH 16-1, that's gotta hurt.
2012-11-24 18:58:54
fnatic should be able to compete with nip in a while at least
2012-11-24 18:58:57
16-1 rofl

Deciphering the result for you guys:

16-1
=
1.6 - #1
2012-11-24 18:59:24
by: wna
#176
WIZARD? O_O
2012-11-24 19:00:04
by: tfg
#181
hahahahahahahaha :D
2012-11-24 19:00:25
what is this wizardy
2012-11-24 19:01:07
:D
2012-11-24 19:05:13
LOLOLOLOLOL EPIC
2012-11-24 19:15:17
lmao :d
2012-11-24 20:50:10
idd ;no contest saucers
2012-11-24 21:43:23
nice
2012-11-24 21:51:57
vg needs shoxie ;)

Post edited 2012-11-24 18:59:47
2012-11-24 18:59:39
for lose 16-3
true
2012-11-24 19:11:10
mvp of the final: getright
mvp of the tournament: forest

Post edited 2012-11-24 19:05:25
2012-11-24 18:59:39
mvp of the tournament was arguably Rattlesnk
2012-11-24 22:30:36
This community will never grow, not because of the game, but because of its immaturity.
The loser today is not VG, it's all of you haters
2012-11-24 19:00:12
Good for NiP, but enough is enough! I won't be following males.CSGO anymore until someone beats them or if there's a tourney without them.

Ciao boys! :<

Post edited 2012-11-24 19:05:16
2012-11-24 19:02:54
cool story bro
2012-11-24 19:03:11
you're so pathetic xD
2012-11-24 19:04:55
Bye babe <3
BTW i know u will ;)

Post edited 2012-11-24 19:09:26
2012-11-24 19:09:06
LOL, when mTw smashed all teams up in 2008 no one spoke that 1.6 is shit, omg i will not follow it and etc. Same was in 2009 when fnatic did exactly the same as mTw, and in 2010-11 when NaVi wons over and over again.
2012-11-24 19:12:46
Technically speaking, the matches were not a washout then.
If you just replace the today's NiP-VG match with NiP-Mouz match, people would have said it was a better final

In 2011, i remember a semi final against SK VS Fnatic (i think). There was a triple overtime. Similarly with Na`Vi VS Fnatic
It just shows how close these teams are and gives a sense of excitement to the spectators
2012-11-24 19:53:46
you know nostalgia is a thing that makes it feel like it was better when it actually wasnt
2012-11-24 23:15:21
What does nostalgia have to do with any of this?
Bottom line : Closer matches = Evolution of the players.

VG used to trash other teams. They simply thought they are good enough. And they stopped moving forward.

And now see 1.6 history
2011 was just a mixed bag
Fresh from 2010, Na`Vi came to dominate the 2011 scence and suddenly SK comes with an unbeatable team, winning tourneys
All goes well and suddenly ESC comes. Then Na`Vi comes again. There was no clear "Team of the Year" in 2011 (Some say SK/ESC mixed)

But this gives something for the teams to look forward to. It means the 1.6 is very balanced, with a lot of top teams

As HLTV said, "1st there is NIP, then there are the rest"
2012-11-24 23:26:15
why you no in the kitchen?
2012-11-24 20:24:49
lmao what a fucking idiot
2012-11-24 23:14:33
GTR SUPERB :)
2012-11-24 19:02:58
I cant believe Progaming actually gave more figth than verygames impressive lol
2012-11-24 19:03:11
mvp: get right the god of clutches
2012-11-24 19:03:12
Richard 'Xizt' Landström = just w0w

GTR is clearly the mvp of both final and tournament

BTW: People saying f0rest is the mvp are clueless fanboys.
2012-11-24 19:04:01
No stage ? ... lol
2012-11-24 19:04:21
2nd map was on stage. On first map the stage was occupied by another game
2012-11-24 19:06:26
2nd map was on stage i think
2012-11-24 19:08:32
Unexpected.
2012-11-24 19:05:07
maybe one day VG, mouz.uk or area51 can atleast win a map vs NiP.
2012-11-24 19:07:46
what, how didnt ESC-gaming win, best 1.6 team ever???????
2012-11-24 19:07:59
They switched too late and they're to weak at this time.

Post edited 2012-11-24 19:10:26
2012-11-24 19:09:42
Imo they had plenty of time to do well considering their level on 1.6. I actually don't think they'll manage to reach the very top level at all.
2012-11-24 19:23:58
one of the dumbest comments here hahaha they had a lot of time 2-3 months already , and stop complaining all the time , even fnatic with 5 days pracc raped them
2012-11-24 21:03:47
u mad bro?
2012-11-24 20:48:55
ye u mad saucer
2012-11-24 21:46:59
great performance final for GTR but f0rest mvp more inteligentand the best of cs:go
2012-11-24 19:08:09
VG go to Millenium plz HAHAAHAHAHAH
2012-11-24 19:08:33
VG play good, but NiP was very strong and play better and xizt, f0rest and gtr was unbeatable :)
2012-11-24 19:08:58
Good game NiP.
2012-11-24 19:10:41
gg, ¬!
2012-11-24 19:13:31
I'm actually a NiP fan, but was hoping VG to win, sorry, but NiP wining everything is getting really borring. But the fact that the team is wining everything is just.. Wow.
2012-11-24 19:14:57
[ITALIC]The fans cheered the loudest in round 13, when Alesund hid perfectly and made three excellent headshots to prevent a B push

any videos to see that
2012-11-24 19:15:10
GG NIP!!

Everything has an Expiry date btw!! :)
2012-11-24 19:15:19
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz NiP stop winning everything 16-5 16-6 16-10 -_-
2012-11-24 19:21:07
3 months hard-core preparation of CS:GO gives NIP the very big advantage over the others !!
2012-11-24 19:22:42
ESC is slowly gowing up. c'mon guys !
2012-11-24 19:23:43
yeah from the 3rd place in the group to the 4th place
2012-11-24 21:04:49
and ?
2012-11-25 19:20:48
gg NiP .
2012-11-24 19:25:04
not expected at all...
2012-11-24 19:26:08
yeah right
2012-11-24 19:26:56
crap :/

GG VG, hope you guys figure out how to play against NiP in the future

<3

gg NiP
2012-11-24 19:29:58
damn emil christensen is earning money with his team hoho !!
2012-11-24 19:30:53
a huge "LOL" at those people who claimed they moved to GO because 1.6 was "boring", "repetitive" and "always the same thing"
2012-11-24 19:41:24
cs:go been out a couple of months. Please think before posting.
2012-11-24 20:25:31
the main arguments for players to move to GO were that 1.6 was getting "repetitive", always one/two dominant team/s



2012-11-24 21:01:18
Ye I know but that is also because the game had been out 10+ years so it ended as the team who executed the strats that everyone knew the best, will win :X
2012-11-24 21:44:15
the same in CS:GO. same maps, same strats
2012-11-24 22:05:11
+1
2012-11-24 20:34:21
cs:go was created for nip :D
2012-11-24 19:45:53
EXPECTED+fucking boring game
it should change the name in cs:nigo
2012-11-24 19:47:43
should have been nip - mouz in the final
2012-11-24 19:47:56
gz
2012-11-24 19:52:30
Someone plz get on NiP´s level
2012-11-24 19:59:42
yeah go for it
2012-11-24 23:15:55
mouz vs nip was a real final
2012-11-24 20:03:36
GTR mvp again
2012-11-24 20:04:11
That`s good, didn`t have chance to watch finals. Was cheering on Lemondogs.
2012-11-24 20:04:45
ok ok... we saw now that the best 1.6ers easily rape the css-gods in css2 (what every skilled player knew) enough of that, now bring back the real cs!
2012-11-24 20:23:06
There's 2 css players in NiP...
2012-11-24 20:25:19
yep... despite them, the 1.6ers won, which makes 1.6 even more superior.
2012-11-24 20:27:40
nice1
2012-11-24 21:00:11
Do you ever stop and ask yourself, what do I contribute to the world? because you should because right now you're adding nothing except for hate.
2012-11-24 22:20:23
Sorry to tell you this but the current VG are not the same team as back then when they were "gods".
2012-11-24 23:01:27
who cares... they were nonames in 1.6 and/or noobs and just started with css. thats why they were just gods for css noobs.
2012-11-24 23:39:45
by: jlp
#306
omg this was source's best team?
hahaha sooo bad
2012-11-24 20:27:47
well what did you expect? they were nobody in 1.6
2012-11-24 20:33:24
Actually was not sources best team lol, they just use the same tag.
2012-11-24 20:45:06
I liked seeing ESC and Fnatic make it out of group play. Oh wait they didn't.
2012-11-24 20:56:36
next time
2012-11-24 21:40:05
wait a month or 2, we wont see vg in the finals anymore when fnatic navi, mby even esc masters the game.
2012-11-24 21:51:04
Fnatic is the team you wanna point out? the team with 5 days of practice in this game.
2012-11-24 22:21:44
Sorry to tell you this but the current VG are not the same team as they were back when they dominated. They are missing the best rifler og all time Shox. It would be like removing f0rest from a team and expect the team to do equally as good after.
2012-11-24 23:03:10
So why isnt that great rifler in any top team as of now?
2012-11-25 09:15:55
He is/was in mellenium but he does not care much about playing anymore. His old team got kicked from an org (can't remember which one) for not giving a fuck. He was selected as the best player by the community two times.

Don't get me wrong, kennyS is a great player but it is a teamgame and the "god"-team people are talking about is not this one.
2012-11-25 11:55:40
by: rKj
#307
NiP just dominates :D
2012-11-24 20:29:53
NiP unstoppable !!!
2012-11-24 20:31:18
NiP isn` unstoppable. It will fall in important tournament someday and that day will come. I wouldn`t even bet on VG to accomplish that, even onliners WRTT beated them. But VG had 4 chances to beat them in finals and yet couldn`t manage to win a single map. The only chance to beat NiP in important matches is for team who`s thirsty enough to overcome handicap and win through sheer guts, because NiP are just too experienced at close matches to let any slips, unlike VG. My opinion.

Post edited 2012-11-24 20:42:08
2012-11-24 20:39:47
NiP are unstoppable atm
2012-11-24 20:43:05
waiting more than a hour, moving to the epic dreamarena.. only to see vg able to win only single round? just why?!
2012-11-24 20:45:08
VG got raped by NIP just like get_right by hiddon after winning the final round!
2012-11-24 20:47:34
lol, hope for fnatic in next tournament, I see potential in MODDII... karrigan, trace are okay, Rytter Stronk and Friis Wronk
2012-11-24 20:49:13
You can see nothing at this point you know, nothing at all, they've played for 5, FIVE, days.
2012-11-24 22:23:27
Why not? They played really well in groups and almost tied NIP with a 16-14 loss. That should be a very good indicator of potential, don't you think? And to use your own argument - with only FIVE days of practice.
2012-11-24 23:05:21
They almost tied against mousesports, they got pretty steamrolled when they played NiP. But still very impressive for being such new to the game.
2012-11-25 00:58:15
he probably means he is dumb to call friss bad and trace and karri just "okay", as they will become infinitely better in a matter of weeks/months
2012-11-26 22:23:11
Maybe. But it's not what he is writing though ;)
2012-11-27 00:11:52
It's easily deducted from what he said tbh, how else to interpret?
2012-11-27 00:16:15
Congratulations to NiP. Not sure if i expected this result(NiP win) or close match between those two teams. But as far as my observation and opinion regarding NiP continuous winnings. I'd say it's because NiP focuses more into individual skills(more towards clutching and aimwise).

Though it's even obvious when i think about it with the help from gtr,forest and xizt. Those 1.6 trios have something in them that can only be acquired through years of experience in term of in-gamewise.

Friberg is amazing, i think he stepped it up and improved even to the 1.6 trios level. Fifflaren on the other hand, I think he does not live to expectation when in my opinion it's obvious he couldn't catch ups with the rest of his teammates. If he still performs like this in future then he should..

Anyway, fnatic and navi is the only hope as of right now that can potentially beat them in the upcoming tournaments.

Post edited 2012-11-24 20:52:58
2012-11-24 20:49:26
I think fifflaren may not be performing as well as he could as he sort of is "forced" to awp, as the team does not have an awper.
or did he awp in source? because I am not at all impressed with his CSGO awp, but then again with the rifles he does seem good.
2012-11-26 22:24:47
He was not an awper in cs:s
2012-11-26 22:31:11
So nu suspicions are correct, in that case we shouldn't be too hard on him ;p

Unless there's the chance to recruit an insane go awper, nip shouldn't change anything
2012-11-27 00:18:24
gj :D

NiP unstoppable!
2012-11-24 20:56:58
Only Na'VI and Fnatic can stop their domination.
Fnatic -Rytter (no0b)
2012-11-24 21:11:01
How can you call Rytter a noob? He is actually a very good player, even though it is hard to prepare a team in just a week, and even harder to be the new guy while doing so.

Furthermore he was the most consistent fnatic player along with MODDII :-)
2012-11-24 23:02:44
agree, rytter showed plenty potential
2012-11-26 22:25:41
1.6 took more skill then source thats why the 1.6ers are better, xizt really stepped up his game on dust2.
2012-11-24 21:20:40
that grace has cs: go? all championships NiP wins ,no emotion ...
I'd rather go see the movie of pelé ;p
2012-11-24 21:27:21
no emotion EHAAEUEHAHUEHAEUHEUHEUHEUEHEUH UHHHUUHHH
2012-11-24 21:51:50
~YES NO GRACE HEAUHERUAHUHEAUHEA
2012-11-25 00:27:13
NiP 2 good
need strong fnatic and Na`Vi

Post edited 2012-11-24 21:37:12
2012-11-24 21:36:43
boring finals except for the 1st half in 1st map... anyway gratz NiP :)
2012-11-24 21:38:52
this game dont have any competition
2012-11-24 21:40:27
There's lots of competition just not about the first place (and maybe even the second).
2012-11-24 23:06:51
but the competitive scene what im talking about is the professional tournament, nothing about achievements... and the tournaments of csgo is so poor

and sorry 4 english :DD
2012-11-25 01:44:33
it will come, do not worry. alot of teams/players from both scenes have just switched or may still switch.
2012-11-26 22:26:44
Nice
2012-11-24 21:42:24
nice to see forest with this form.. he is the best right now
2012-11-24 21:50:33
NiP dominate next 8-9 months maybe, then other teams catch up. My prediction


Post edited 2012-11-24 22:00:08
2012-11-24 21:58:03
is there the VOD of the final anywhere ????
2012-11-24 22:00:49
i don't understand all the hate towards Verygames.I mean they are the second best team in the "history of this game". I mean it's not that bad for them. When vg plays with another team you`re all like "vg all the way" , "vg easy". When they loose against nip you all think that they are shit.Your judgement has issues.
2012-11-24 22:09:09
they played only weak teams to rich the final, so they are in final but their level have been rather poor the whole tournament

Post edited 2012-11-24 22:13:25
2012-11-24 22:11:37
Because they're french. If they were from one another country it would be different.
2012-11-24 22:43:15
Yea you obviously have it tough. Its not like you're an American on a Euro filled website
2012-11-24 23:25:54
I was always rooting for guys like atlantis, majer, sixer, msx, etc.

I just think people dont like that mouz got the harder side of the bracket, because they put up more of a fight both matches vs NiP, and feel mouz is stronger than VG, while currently their final placing represents a better result than mouz
2012-11-26 22:28:42
OMG 16-1 ina a final???wtf

klin n izi

well this is becoming boring...
2012-11-24 22:22:25
Funny to see that all world hates France ahahah
2012-11-24 22:42:25
RpK mvp of the lan, then GTR and Xizt (http://77.80.142.4/stats/global)
2012-11-24 22:43:24
yes, rpk played very well, but i take with xizt!
2012-11-24 22:51:19
mvp for beating noobs and then getting dominated in the final? no sir.
2012-11-24 22:57:18
and who are you?
2012-11-24 23:19:24
and you?
2012-11-25 20:30:31
you have my sword














wait fail combo :x
2012-11-26 22:29:28
they were dominated in the final, not him. mvp is an individual trophy.
Messi is Ballon d'Or each year even when he earns nothing.
2012-11-25 23:00:29
he earns millions, what are you talking about?! :S























;D
2012-11-26 22:29:52
lol he played only weak teams and get destroyed in the final ,he can t be mvp, it s forest or gtr

Post edited 2012-11-26 17:12:04
2012-11-26 17:11:09
Could the organizers of future tournaments please put VG and NiP in groups so they play each other in the quarters or semis? VG again has easy road to finals and gets smashed. Let NiP and VG play earlier I'm sick of every tourney putting them on opposite sides of the bracket
2012-11-24 23:21:48
by: stich - HLTV.org
#423
Sadly that probably won't happen considering that their seeding is always going to be #1 and #2 until things change.

I know it's typical for users on here to mope about how boring finals are but that's just more of an invitation for other teams to step up and dry and dethrone the giants.

Also I find their finals interesting as I get to study the meta-game a lot; I don't care much for a thrilling final unless it's a team I'm extremely emotional about.
2012-11-24 23:50:56
Meta game? CS has been played out for twelve years. There is no meta game. Plus you can't study rape, unless you get raped (looking at you VG)
2012-11-25 00:34:23
:D
2012-11-25 05:41:38
+1905
2012-11-25 10:12:33
NiP are simpy the fuckn god of that game.. Seriously... they didnt lose to any team since they founded right?!?!
2012-11-24 23:23:05
WW Thor open first round. It was online, but they still lost
2012-11-24 23:24:42
16-1?!?!?! omg..
2012-11-24 23:23:57
What is the full name of Rachel????? she is hot
2012-11-24 23:54:35
by: Jonathan E. - HLTV.org
#441
Rachel Quirico.
2012-11-25 02:01:37
its really boring,nip everywhere wins torunament's
2012-11-25 00:00:55
ofc its boring for you when your favorite team didnt won, im really happy though :D
2012-11-25 22:13:29
BORING
2012-11-25 00:34:24
Can u guys stop pushing mousesports? as long as this angry,flaming little prick rattlesnk plays there i cant cheer for that team...seriously i think hes the worst person in the whole cs scene
2012-11-25 00:43:11
its a new game wait few months on fnatic, esc, na'vi and pro gaming to step up their game
2012-11-25 00:46:36
Fifflaren out and Moddii in for NiP and it will be 16-0, 16-0 next time. Congratulations NiP, well deserved.

Boom!
2012-11-25 01:15:17
Get right mvp for sure... :D

NIP unbeaten so far, we still waiting for ESC, fnatic and na'vi to come back, but in cs:go

it is boring to watch that cs:source players that most of people dont even know them



2012-11-25 01:19:49
yeaH!!!! NIP
2012-11-25 02:06:09
-NBK
-Ex6TenZ

+ScreaM
+apEx/shoxie
2012-11-25 03:17:21
-NBK? Did you see only one game in this tournament, fuckface?
2012-11-25 03:54:10
"-Ex6TenZ". hahaha, nice one thx.

Post edited 2012-11-25 23:02:13
2012-11-25 22:57:43
I'd say stratwise VG played very strong on D2, they have their teamwork down. However, it doesn't matter if you have perfect flashes, perfect smokes etc if f0rest kills the first two entering his site every single time. VG is forced to try to kill NiP by either flashing them or shooting them in the back, which is really tough. They need to improve individually, especially ex6tenz. He spends so much time on strats that he doesn't leave enough time to perfect his individual game. He needs to focus on his own shot and really hone it. I'm not sure if VG should change their roster, no one really sticks out as a weak link. Running a two awp setup is rough though, so I wouldn't mind seeing scream or shoxie sub in for smithz.
2012-11-25 04:04:43
god source players suck
2012-11-25 06:45:54
get right is n1 now in cs:go no doubt

Post edited 2012-11-25 09:46:44
2012-11-25 09:45:41
expected, gg nip
2012-11-25 11:53:33
there you go.

1.6 requires skill.

css is for the people who failed in 1.6.

and when you put them against eachother.

1.6 will win. and yeah. with two css players, but hey. look at the overall stats/KD.
2012-11-25 11:57:21
Yeah i just looked and there is a Source player with best KD.
2012-11-25 15:01:25
"css is for the people who failed in 1.6."

and what did u and 90% of the community here achive in 1.6?

Nothing cuz ur bad.

Post edited 2012-11-25 15:27:53
2012-11-25 15:27:38
there you go again : )


2012-11-25 20:29:51
good game NiP
2012-11-25 12:39:53
xizt is so freaking good. a bit underrated because of all gtr and f0rest fanboys
2012-11-25 13:41:58
Madfragging while calling the strats.. Inzein!
2012-11-25 15:44:12
exactly ;)i remember when carn took him to fnatic i was thinking like "wtf carn is doing" and now i have to admit that he was the best possible choice :).
2012-11-25 15:49:02
yeah! true!
2012-11-25 20:54:38
im fan of NiP and Xizt ofc) but MAAAAAAAAAAAAN f0rest + GTR >>> WORLD
2012-11-25 20:14:04
youre right, exactly my thoughts
2012-11-25 20:50:04
he play very smart, great player
2012-11-26 17:15:03
yeah, go csgo, so exciting. gg
there is no competition, this game is born dead
2012-11-25 14:50:26
If this game is dead just because one team is better than everyone else. Than 1.6 probably died 10 times since its release
2012-11-25 17:22:42
noo, im not hating or mentioneing 1.6 (but never 1.6 was so predictable) . but there is no other winner yet. its boring and i mean it, NIp NIp nip nip nip nip.... in 1.6 last years it was kind of boring but allways 5-6 teams compete and with the real chance, but here now in csgo? only ip man, next time better anothre team win and i say it to help csgo get more interest by outsiders, not already people of the cs comunities
2012-11-25 23:45:51
You're probably new to CS then. And in the last year only fnatic did good, so that doesn't make 5-6 teams at all
2012-11-26 09:23:25
go away foerester, fanboy of css and csgo. you dumb, 1.6 > CSS > CSGO
2012-11-26 10:11:35
Meanwhile in a parallel universe
2012-11-26 10:56:55
source players are so bad oh my god. When fnatic and na'vi come they are fucked up
2012-11-25 17:37:09
16 players out of 20 players in top4 are ex-source players.
2012-11-25 18:21:37
because there are just a few 1.6 players
2012-11-25 18:46:50
+1
2012-11-25 20:58:19
but will never ever win smth in csgo) i promise
2012-11-25 20:16:46
VeryEasy :D
2012-11-25 20:07:15
wp nip !
Amazing event, with a lot of nice people, the stage was great (unlike the map of the final), the admins and the organization was really professional. Definitely awesome.
2012-11-25 22:55:01
you were there? :)
2012-12-01 12:03:23
f0rest and xizt for mvp
2012-11-25 23:55:01
standard/default
2012-11-26 17:24:14
Finely the Masters won the Game B|!!
2012-11-27 14:20:25
this game won`t be any interesting to watch until the rest teams won`t practice much more
2012-11-27 14:40:21
who i see this match anyone help mee?? who i see xSSSS
2012-11-28 15:29:38

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