Guys, wtf is happening. I think we never had so many good teams in scene, just look at how many teams will be world class after all the roster changes.

Astralis - if they can continue this form they can still be top 1

VP - yeah they are old and shit and pretty bad online, but when they are in form they are kinda unstoppable

new/old fnatic - if this guys can get back in form they are world contenders for sure

FaZe - I hated Niko so much because he was so overrated, but now he can show his skill becuz he is no longer IGLing, if he can deliver FaZe will be amazing

North - just imagine North with aizy, k0nfig and Magisk. They have so much firepower, and overall I think it was a good move, cuz k0nfig can play support and we saw some of his clutches.

NaVi - even NaVi can contend for top 1 this year I think, the form they showed in group stages at major was incredible, probably we will see their real form at DH Las Vegas and find out how good they are.

SK - idk what to say about SK. I'm not really confident that they can be top 1 again. Imo felps will never reach the form he had in immortals, becuz he was the star player in IMT, while in SK he can't be the star player anymore, he is like disco doplan in fnatic. So idk if they will perform, maybe if felps will get in form.

G2 - G2 looked pretty bad online, so idk what to say about them. If they can find consistency they will be a good team, but I think they need Scream to be top 1.
That's beautiful, all this teams look promising, I would dare even say that Kinguin have a huge chance to be at top 10 atm. That's my opinion, so don't bother flaming.
2017-02-10 12:46
Kinguin looked pretty good online, but I think we need to see them at a big event to see if they are top 10 or not
2017-02-10 12:47
Norway Norsk 
No chance
2017-02-10 12:49
Kinguin always delivered and surprised everyone as a "underdog" team, they would really show their true potential if they had the chance as big teams does. I really don't understand what is unlogical here, since Kinguin always delivered playing against big teams, they are better than a lot of teams at top 10.
2017-02-10 12:52
Winning against VP isnt hard these days. Espacially online. People overestimate them. They have skill for sure but that ain't enough.
2017-02-10 12:56
I'm not talking about 1 game against VP, i'm not that type of silver who judge a team based on 1 game. They pretty much upset every big team, and that IS enough.
2017-02-10 12:57
Just because they upset a team online in a bo1 dosent mean they are top10. Always annoying when kids spam this forum whenever an upset happens They will never achieve anything
2017-02-10 12:57
Reply #13 applies to you aswell, you're just too damn proud to admit Kinguin is a decent team even better than NiP nowadays.
2017-02-10 12:58
There's nothing else you can be talking about though, since they haven't proved jack shit elsewhere. The only thing they can do, is upset a team in an online match in a bo1. And you saying they are better than nip right now shows that you are "that type of silver who judge a team based on 1 game" Kinguin is shit. Deal with it. You are the one who needs to swallow your pride
2017-02-10 13:02
Damn son, if they are so shit why do they upset top tier teams? Ffs get your facts straight
2017-02-10 13:41
Online though, I think his point still stands I wanna see them do some damage on LAN. I think they are quite capable, but we haven't seen it yet
2017-02-10 20:51
they beat navi on LAN, vp on LAN
2017-02-12 12:40
When exactly did they beat Na'Vi?
2017-02-12 14:21
Both teams had different lineups. 1 year ago And that's their only noteworthy result ever?
2017-02-12 14:59
2017-02-10 12:46
They are good online but rly bad at lan :/
2017-02-10 13:48
They won against vp on lan
2017-02-13 20:23
Also, optic could still be good without stanislaw Liquid might become a top team with a proper igl C9 can always surprise, I would consider them a top team as well Even though they fucked up at the major qualifier, NiP is still a contender as well Holy shit the scene is so fucking packed, can't wait for the next lans
2017-02-10 12:52
I think the NA teams still have to prove smth. Cloud9 are a good team but they are so inconsistent, they can win EPL Finals but can't qualify for a major? OpTic was a top 5 team before major imo, but after what happened at major and the roster change idk what to say about them, we will see at DH LV. And about Liquid i think they need more firepower, EliGe can't carry this team alone at big events
2017-02-10 12:53
Yeah I agree that we have to wait and see, I agree with all your points but Im still hyped af to see how those teams perform as well
2017-02-10 12:55
Me too, I'm more hyped for DH LV and IEM Katowice than I was for the major
2017-02-10 13:11
i can't wait the next lans but EU teams look waaaaaaaaay better than NA teams C9 can surprize, they have potential but we all know they'll continue to fail in groups
2017-02-10 12:58
2017-02-10 12:55
new/old fnatic - don't forget that there were no other good teams in that period, LG were on their way to success but they needed time, the others were just bad FaZe - I still don't see them defeating SK or Astralis North - MSL needs to step up and k0nfig should stop sucking, then North will be scary, but SK&Astralis > North anyway NaVi - can only shine in bo1 and can't succeed overall cuz no proper IGL G2 - they're good only on paper. If they don't manage to make apEX and kennyS be good, they will suck bbc
2017-02-10 12:56
NiP :)
2017-02-10 12:59
honestly i don't think Nip are world contenders atm, but if they can find their form they can win some big events this year like they did last year
2017-02-10 13:15
2017-02-10 13:49
G2, my eyes!
2017-02-10 13:45
Navi are still underperforming with s1mple, while North been doing a great job for the past year or so. Also G2 needs a few months.
2017-02-10 14:16
this is the fucking problem. In 2012-MLG Columbus 2016, we had great teams. Now just good teams. Scene has lost something
2017-02-10 14:39
about SK you're right, they are just mending the team together after fnx's exit, hopefully for SK fans he can grow into a solid worldclass player like every player on SK has done astralis is clearly the team to beat atm, navi and vp are dangeorous too along with SK. then north, faze, fnatic and and everyone else, its really unpredictable
2017-02-10 17:30
2017-02-10 18:04
? If u think Cloud9 is an world contender team atm u must be braindead
2017-02-10 20:35
riot cuz no optic
2017-02-10 20:58
2017-02-10 21:41
I think NAVI is more potential atm but this team need more time that was expected
2017-02-10 21:04
you forgot c9 m8!
2017-02-10 21:05
2017-02-10 21:06
Australia CKS 
Wish NiP were still good :(, i miss the 2014-2015 days
2017-02-11 05:20
Stop reading after qucik look at g2
2017-02-11 05:27
I didn't said that they are good LUL, they have potential if they can find their consistency, but after some online games we can't tell if they will be good or not
2017-02-11 11:41
United States BanU 
i just came here to laugh at G2 "french superteam" lul
2017-02-11 05:31
Optic will be top 1. Save this LDLC will be the surprise this year
2017-02-11 11:47
I doubt they can reach their peak form again without an dedicated IGL
2017-02-11 11:48
Optic will disband in 2 months mark this
2017-02-12 09:58
LUL no complexity. They're getting top4 at Dreamhack Vegas
2017-02-13 01:59
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